And? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

@igor the troll i dunno just love the title it really fits what I love to do on the web - krug

Don't you find it kind of ironic though, in that social media is something that you should be participating in rather than trying to 'manage' ? If managing the social media fits what you love to do then that could be a bit of a problem. - Andy Roberts

Pithy Andy and Social Media Troll Igor, LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Props on the position, now share your tasks and job description with us. - Joseph Rodgers from twhirl

Social Media Whore? LMAO - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

@joseph rodgers My basic role is to head up the marketing of a majority of the tech websites within the core brands of http://splashpressmedia.com Basically starting conversations around hot posts that are already gaining traction within social media sites like friendfeed,digg,reddit,etc. Aiding and assiting the editorial teams in fueling conversations, and helping engage commenters in a more rapid way to encourage more conversation within the existing brands. - krug

Yeap, sounds Like a Social Media Spammer or Social Media Whore, but we will not hold it against you! Have Fun! LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I definetly am not in the mood to spam, or whore out useless content. I attempt to develop a higher quality of content and help market only the best content that followers of social media will be interested in. Much like a newspaper publisher of years past. - krug

Are social media much like newspapers of the past? - Andy Roberts

Well I am personally not interested someone pumping some new technology. If the product is good it will sell. Good luck! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

@andyroberts I would say yes they are similar but different. More like newspapers in coffeeshops. - krug

So david, now that you seem to have a job - when will you be paying all of us writers that you owe money to that wrote on your Gold Creek LLC blogs? - krugowesmemoney

You know, folks like http://jennhollowell.blogspot.com/2008... and http://www.youshallaboveall.com/you_sha... - krugowesmemoney

You better talk to Andy Beard, he is dealing with ePerks problem http://friendfeed.com/andybea... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

This is the relevent discussion to ePerks http://friendfeed.com/e... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

A person who works for a company is different than the company. My company is still looking to overcome its issues but for the time being heads to the deadpool and laid off its employees including me and its websites are offline. Looks like I took a loss of close to 30k on the whole business, looking to reorganize and take care of the debt in the meantime. It could be worse I could act like I don't know about the debt. - krug

Bullshit! WTF you come here with the Lame topic "My new official title is Social Media Manager" playing us for Fools? No krug http://friendfeed.com/krug you are FAIL.... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I don't get you Igor. It's like if I started one Startup and placed myself in the roll of CEO and President when in reality I shouldn't have. So when the company tanked and I lost a crap load of money I went back to work in the real world for another company and used my talents and knowledge instead. What does that have to do with my past startup failures. Lots of folks fail in life. yep. I am FAIL. Being able to admit is the number one step to moving forward to future successes. - krug

Well coming clean with the community is a start! Now why don't you try to help the people that got screwed? Can you do anything for them? This is a real black spot on your record to be part of a FAIL company. - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Long term yeah Igor, short term probably not. No one was 'intentionally screwed' It's the nature of business to have failures and attempting to build failures into successes. I never do try to hide my failures because remember lots of folks throughout history had failures that later empowered them to become successful people. I'm hoping I can learn from failure and become a better person because of it. - krug

Was the company a legal entity or not? If it was why not prove it? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

What do you need Igor? - krug

If there was never a company Krug is the soul proprietor so you should sue Mr. Krug. If he loses the court will hold claim to his assets. - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

@Igor I agree but it was incorporated and I lost the most money of all as a result of this damn housing market. Should have never started a business around the whole home improvement industry. Agh. I figured that industry was stronger than the internet but I was wrong. - krug

In which state were you incorporated? To which mailing address should we send legal papers if we do not receive payment? Who are your shareholders? - krugowesmemoney

@krugowesmemoney if you did work for me you'd have my email address and would email me like a real human and I'd be more than glad to provide you details for all that. In fact if you worked for me you probably already have my personal details if not feel free to call me 406.322.3738 - krug

Mr. Krug do not tell us bologna about housing market, we are not children here but social media professionals. If your company was a legal entity their is limited liability unless you have acted in neglect as a managing director. So stop with your BS, - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

We've called you - we've emailed you - we've sent letters to your company and have gotten no response. Just pay us. Or let us know where to send the legal papers - address & state of LLC registration. - krugowesmemoney

Krug apparantly owes @msaleem $1000 as well - that's another blogger we didn't know about http://twitter.com/msaleem... - krugowesmemoney

David claims to run a company called “Gold Creek LLC” which according to his domain registrations has an Oregon address of: Gold Creek, LLC 14525 SW Millikan Beaverton, Oregon 97005 United States This address, however, does not return to an actual business called Gold Creek LLC, but rather to a company called Earth Class Mail which allows you to send all of your mail to their address - and they scan in images of your mail and make it available to you online. In other words, Gold Creek LLC doesn’t exist at this physical location. It’s just a mail drop / mailing service. - krugowesmemoney

We've dug up alot of information on Mr. Krug - I'll post some of it here. - krugowesmemoney

David has recently been commenting about posts that he appears to have written over at a car enthusiast website called Ridelust, which appears to be owned by a company from New Jersey called SeaWaves Technology. - krugowesmemoney

David Krug’s “company” Gold Creek LLC either runs or is “affiliated” with several websites. Log Homes Journal - blog that directs traffic amongst Gold Creek’s various sites. Natural Log Siding - ecommerce / lead based site Griffin Hollow - Griffin Hollow appears to be a DBA for Gold Creek LLC - however we’ve been unable to locate any actual records of this company being registered as a DBA in Montana or Oregon Interior Door Shop - ecommerce / lead based site Cabinets Factory - ecommerce / lead based site, currently offline Kitchen Design Journal - blog site In addition to these sites, David blogs at several locations - including krug.tv, The Krug Report, and at krug.tumblr.com. - krugowesmemoney

If you cannot find a legal entity sue Mr. Krug. There may actually be a cause for criminal investigation pertaining to fraud. - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I'm a little confused coming in this conversation a little late. Why the hell does Krug owe bloggers money? Nice shiny new title Krug - but you are "social media manager" for who? I can say I'm president - but it needs to have context. - David Cohn

Mr. Krug owned/owns a "company" called Gold Creek LLC - some of their properites are naturallogsiding.com and loghomesjournal.com - among others. several of us blogged for him and have never been paid - he's now claiming that there are problems witht he company and that he's lost up to "30k". From what we can tell there never was a company - and he's refusing to tell us where it was registered so that we can properly serve legal papers. As we dig further, we find more and more bloggers that were not paid - krugowesmemoney

Ohhh... That sucks. Question: Were contracts ever signed that promised payment - or was it just a "yea, I got money... um... sure, I'll pay you" type thing? I'm not saying the bloggers would be at fault - it would just mean there is more manipulation on Krug's part. It's one thing to run a business that goes bellyup. Another to lie and pretend you had a business that went bellyup. - David Cohn

I have several emails from Mr. Krug where he promised payment - said he sent payment - said payment would be coming, claims he lost my paypal, said payment was coming, and so on. You see what I mean. Again, I doubt Gold Creek LLC was really a business. - krugowesmemoney

I've been calling you Mr. Krug - we never get a call back or an answer. Maybe it's time that you talk with my attorney. Again, I ask, what state is Gold Creek LLC registered in? - krugowesmemoney

It's been two months - Mr Krug has stilled never revealed which state Gold Creek LLC is registered in or any plans to repay his writers the thousands of dollars that he owes. - Krug Truther