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Kara Visits FriendFeed (Now in Six New Languages)! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Watch Bret Taylor & Paul Buchheit talk about FriendFeed from the FriendFeed HQ in Mountain View, California.
- Mark Wilson
This video has been on youtube for 10 days with less than 100 views and hasn't hit FriendFeed yet? Wow! Talk about going under the radar.
- LonelyBob
Come on people! LonelyBob brings up a good point. You should all be watching this video. These guys are working very hard to keep the service up and running and it's fantastic.
- Mark Wilson
ATTENTION ALL FFUNDERCATS FANS. THIS IS MANDATORY VIEWING!!!
- Mark Wilson
humble.
- Noah David Simon
FFunder, FFunder, FFunder, FFundercats! Hhoooo! =)
- LonelyBob
from twhirl
Wait....why was it on Youtube and not here?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
She called it a twitter-like service. :p
- Josh Haley
This is a great interview. It is INDEED MANDATORY VIEWING, folks!
- Josh Haley
Still less than 100 Views! Either the counter hasn't updated yet, or many of you have not watched this video, what's going friendfeeders?
- LonelyBob
from twhirl
The good ole days! hey Mark, we got him on the show tonight! Woohoo!
- Josh Haley
New Blog Post by @Jesse: Twitteronia vs. Status.net: The Battle for Hosted Microblogging Begins http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Nicholas James, Brian Hendrickson, Anthony K. Valley © and 6 other people liked this
No need for the FF Bookmarklet anymore. Yay! - http://www.shareaholic.com/#
Peter Efland, Bill Sodeman, Daniel Rowley and 60 other people liked this
"Shareaholic makes it easy for you to submit the web page you're on to your favorite sharing or bookmarking service, including: digg, del.icio.us, facebook, friendfeed, bit.ly, connotea, google bookmarks, google reader notes, gmail, kaboodle, magnolia, meneame, mixx, myspace, plurk, reddit, soup.io, stumbleupon, tipjoy, tumblr, twine, twitter, weheartit, yahoo buzz, and ycombinator. You can also e-mail the web page directly to a friend."
- Anika
from Bookmarklet
I've been using this for a year now and it's been wonderful. So easy to send stuff to my Gmail, SU or Twitter. But I hadn't noticed the FF icon until my reinstall today. You click on your items hit the Shareaholic link for FF and it brings up the bookmarklet for you. Now, all it needs is a post to blog and Social Median button and I'll be good to go.
- Anika
If it had Evernote I might be interested... does it bring up tags for services that have tags?
- Her Lindsay-ness
Firefox, FTL.
- l0ckergn0me
Chris what does Firefox have to do with anything? EDIT...Ah, I see it's a FF plugin. Yeah, I'm not on Firefox.
- Anika
Lindsay, it's a way to post/share a link someplace. It's not cluttered with tags or anything. So say I want to share your comment to Twitter. I just click on it or highlight it and have this send it to Twitter.
- Anika
One button replaces multiple bookmarklets. I like it very much.
- yezi
The fact that it's an add-on kills it for me. Why can't it be a bookmarklet? I never understood that.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Rah, yep. Shareaholic needs a bookmarklet. ShareThis has and supports FriendFeed. ShareThis is the better alternative for Chrome users anyway.
- Kol Tregaskes
Saying that, I use Shareaholic on Firefox and have done for ages.
- Kol Tregaskes
Been using it for a little while now. I love it!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
agree with Rahsheen, should be a bookmarklet instead of an addon. I refuse to go back to firefox now. Thanks for the tip Kol Tregaskes, regarding ShareThis - will check it out as a chrome user
- Peter Efland
I've been using it for several months now. So glad to see Friendfeed added.
- Keith - @tsudo
i am NOWHERE without Shareaholic. and so far it has given me nary an issue.
- edythe
Kol - was it a joke regarding Chrome? Got to bookmarklet in Chrome, but absolutely nada happens when I try to use it.
- Peter Efland
Peter, yep I had the same problem. Contacted the devs and eventually they worked it out, change the URL to: javascript:var%20e=document.createElement('script');e.setAttribute('language','javascript');e.setAttribute('src','http://w.sharethis.com/button...);
- Kol Tregaskes
oh, cool. thanks Kol, will see if I can get it sorted out
- Peter Efland
Just downloaded. I will have to report back on how it is after a few days.
- Colide81 (James)
using it for two weeks and really appreciate it, would miss it.
- Tobias W.
I started using it about a week ago, and I am slowly doing away with my bookmarklets.
- Seth Greenblatt
Odd. I have been using this to post to FF for quite some time. I like it.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
if @shareaholic added URL shortening then all of my bookmarklets would be history
- Keith - @tsudo
tsudohnimh, i have bit.ly in my Shareaholic. Go to Customize and add it.
- Anika
nice. TY anika. Didn't notice that before.
- Keith - @tsudo
Have a look at this article: http://www.techradar.com/news... - it details a hack to allow you to use StumbleUpon in Chrome.
- Kol Tregaskes
I have try several times, but I don't really like it... Because it's just a extensions that has added bookmarklets it self.
- Kristian Salonen
Kristian it saves a bunch of toolbar space though.
- Corvida
Sadly, it doesn't work for Opera.
- ComicList
Corvida: I use folder :P And I still can add 3-5 bookmarks into toolbar, but I don't need to (yet)
- Kristian Salonen
My bookmark toolbar is exclusively for bookmarklets, so this type of stuff doesn't really suite me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
How does an add-on get nearly 500,000 downloads and not a single star or review?
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Jack: What? There's reviews (73 totally) and star ratings.
- Kristian Salonen
Aha, sorry. I was looking at the wrong thing. I'm old...I do that a lot. ;)
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
The bookmarklet is coming along nicely btw. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Since I'm forced to use Chrome (yuck) now, I would LOVE a bookmarklet for Shareaholic. My toolbar looks so messy with all that stuff up there.
- Anika
Why Twitter is not for conversations. I will give you five reasons here:
Joshua, Brad Coy, MLx and 140 other people liked this
1. If you get into something with one other person all your other followers will start complaining.
- Robert Scoble
2. You can't "thread" and "capture" a conversation, like I can here.
- Robert Scoble
3. Most people on Twitter that are joining lately are not people who participate. Compare @ev's followers to mine.
- Robert Scoble
true... very true. Although when used appropriately, Twitter is very powerful.
- Jonathan Beckett
4. Twitter's expected usage is "what are you doing?" Not "what would you like to chat with your friends?" Whenever I try to break that usage I get tons of hate DMs and tons of unfollows.
- Robert Scoble
i still have 2 reasons. the first one is that wa have other solution if we want to discuss about all and nothing, the tchat our DM for example and te second one is that twitter is to propose interested news about different interested subjects (it is better :) ) and not to give personal informations
- Alice Cordonnier
5. You can't bundle up a conversation and save it for later, like you can with this one. (You can even permalink to this conversation and link to it from a Tweet, but you can't do that in Twitter itself).
- Robert Scoble
Jonathan: Twitter is great for attracting attention to something, or just sending out a general update. For actually going into any detail at all about something, however, it's sorely lacking, and not just because of the 140 character limit.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Jonathan: Twitter is great for going back and forth about twice. If you want to get really involved it really really sucks. It pisses off all your other followers. DM's would be fun, but you can only DM people who follow you. Makes that worthless to use for a lot of people.
- Robert Scoble
Re. to 4: Interestingly, I really enjoy those conversations that form on Twitter, I start click the "In reply to..." all the time and I end up seeing the twitter pages of new, interesting people.
- Javier Altman
Finally, if you get to 1,000 followers or more (like many of my friends), you'll miss a lot of stuff and so the conversation might be disjointed.
- Robert Scoble
@robert: there are other services ;)
- Capobecchino (Enrico)
First one, impossible to keep track of conversations, 2 user engagement is low 3. Information value is negligible.
- Richard A.
Javier: Twitter is an AWESOME discovery tool. Yes. But it is a CRAPPY conversation tool.
- Robert Scoble
Robert. which is why I use twitter as I do.
- Richard A.
That is true, as purely conversational in anything that is more than 1 or 2 messages in "depth" or "length" or whatever you wanna call it, it's quite terrible. Also, I find that if you follow too many people, then every single "conversation" is impossible to follow. I'm following 200 people, and that's hard to manage and follow some times.
- Javier Altman
Agreed. Twitter is a great platform for spreading knowledge, not for idle back & forth chit chat.
- David Lanning
Javier: Twitter is an AWESOME listening tool (especially if you have TweetDeck) because you can listen to lots of people on specific topics (thanks to search). It's also an AWESOME promotional tool (look how Mashable is using Twitter) but it's a horrid conversation tool.
- Robert Scoble
David. Spreading knowledge? A hyperlink with no real description? No value to me. I want to know why someone is linking to something.
- Richard A.
David: I wouldn't go that far. Out of 10,000 Tweets 9,996 are pretty stupid. Should I give you some examples?
- Robert Scoble
I find I get a lot smarter by using Google Reader and following some people who put some thought into blogging. Friendfeed and twitter are NOT places I typically find deep thoughts unless it's from someone like Tim O'Reilly, Jay Rosen, or Dave Winer and they both are always linking out to interesting stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Robert. I really like how twitter used to be "awesome" as a conversational tool in the past. Now though people have far less time for the site.
- Richard A.
I definitely agree on that, Robert. Too bad Twitter has become so centralized and developed a "star system" so quickly... a ton of people with interesting things to say are simply lost in the cloud left in the wake of @kevinrose or @levarburton, you know? The big guys get listened to and usually have little of interest to say -- the smaller guys with actual content worth your time are never heard of.
- Javier Altman
Robert, yo're right on that. But why is Twitter having such a success? I reach way more people on Twitter than on FF. Although I like FF so much more.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Javier, the little guys are the community builders, their engagement provides the dynamics the timeline needs to keep people engaged.
- Richard A.
Threaded conversations are needed on Twitter. Becomes increasingly painful to understand what people are referring to sometimes
- Paul Papadimitriou
Ryo: Twitter is way older and is further along the growth curve. Friendfeed also requires more work and more engagement. Look at all the icons on the people who are following me here (or that I'm following). Now compare those icons to the ones of the users in @ev's account. Not even close to the same kinds of users. I'd rather have one friendfeed user than 100 twitterers. Watch over the next year and you'll see what I'm seeing.
- Robert Scoble
@paul: "Threaded conversations are needed" ... sure :)
- Capobecchino (Enrico)
Javier: Sometimes what those big folk say is something people do want to hear, though. Levar Burton had a big tweetup in Toronto at the beginning of the week, with only an hour's notice on Twitter. Friend of mine got to meet him, blogged about it, and had his server crash under the load when Burton linked to the post in Twitter. But yeah, things of note from the celebs are usually pretty rare. (The post that caused the crash: http://imaddicted.ca/interne... )
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Conversation certainly is easier here both to follow and understand. Less chance of being unfollowed for saying something out of context or annoying new users.
- Pete Gilbert
Chris: and Levar is one of the real celebrities who actually engages a community. I met him at CES. Really great guy.
- Robert Scoble
If Twitter wants to be a great conversation tool, they should figure some way to spin out conversations from the tweet streams of the conversationalists (and I don't mean DMs). That they don't seem to be bothering with that is another strike against the service, at least in my books.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Richard: I don't see how much community can be built when your word isn't reaching anyone -- that's how I feel twitter is working lately, what you say gets missed in the cloud.
- Javier Altman
I think that we havn't to blame any service that offer a rest api, if there is some kind of lake in some feature then innovate, the main element to get in mind is to avoid redenduncy.
- abdellah
@Chris: Maybe LeVar wasn't the best example, of course Geordi LaForge would have something interesting to say :D
- Javier Altman
Javier I have written quite a few blog posts about twitter and community building because of how frustrated I am by how passive the site has become. All those I used to follow are now following thousands. They no longer focus on friends anymore. I agree with you.
- Richard A.
@Chris: I think that if the web interface for Twitter somehow added the "in reply to's.." that are chained together onto a collapsible tab below a particular, original tweet on the timeline, the problem would be solved.
- Javier Altman
@Richard: Exactly, that's why I actually went back the other day and started un-following people. I want to focus my attention, and hopefully that will trickle down to others in my stream.
- Javier Altman
Brilliant and I was angry with you, silly me :). Twitter is more or less like a group IM. Mirco-blogging not so much.
- Chirag Chamoli
Javier, Because I did the same thing I had 11 pages of conversation in twelve hours. I was quite happy with that result. :-), made twitter feel vibrant once more. I like feeling that people want to engage for more than one message at a time.
- Richard A.
Ooh.. I don't know about this Scobs... I use FF and Twitter, but I have learned a lot, met some Great people, AND had some great conversations on Twitter, whether by tweets or DM. I do agree that FF is a more advanced version of Twitter, but I also agree that you have more "reach" on Twitter. I think Twitter a combo of conversation, info sharing (NOT just linking all the time), and connecting; at least until FF can get more "mainstream." The phone's still always good for conversations. :)
- Just OOH
Martin Schecter says I'm wrong: http://www.commonmistakesblog.com/2009... -- but this is something he can not do on Twitter (join together lots of little pieces into one whole). Give it up, Twitter sucks for conversations and building knowledge on a topic. Quick, go to Twitter search and find all Tweets on this conversation. You can't. Don't even try.
- Robert Scoble
Just Out Of Home: Friendfeed is totally different than Twitter. You haven't really used them if you believe that.
- Robert Scoble
what about app that offer to create twitter users group?!!
- abdellah
I actually see a use case for both. As a pure broadcasting channel Twitter is great, many people don´t even care about @replies. All they care about is that many people hear what they have to say. A conversation can and will never happen nicely on Twitter, not only because of the technical limitations but in my opinion also because of the different user structure. Twitter will stay popular but will also get polluted more and more. FF might be able to grow with a different user base towards something bigger.
- Bastian
I personally find Friendfeed quite daunting. I like the simplicity of Twitter, it's "shoot and forget"-ness, so to speak. Friendfeed is more involved, which helps for conversations, but because everything is linked together in a feed, it can get unmanageable quite quickly. That said, Twitter is obviously imperfect as well.
- Javier Altman
Bastian: exactly. Twitter is a "pure broadcasting channel." It's stunningly awesome for that.
- Robert Scoble
Bastian, if you want subscribers get an RSS feed, easier to sort by source.
- Richard A.
"Friendfeed is totally different than Twitter" - then I'd love to know why both continue to be thrown into battle against each other. Can't they just co-exist?
- Shawn Farner
Javier: right. But that's why your engagement here will increase over time and on Twitter yours will decrease over time. By the way, Facebook is seeing a ton more engagement (per user) than Twitter is. Why is that?
- Robert Scoble
Friendefeed is a web forum based around RSS aggregation. We use feedly to find the articles, say why we're think they're interesting and people decide whether to pay attention according to that. Twitter makes that much harder to do.
- Richard A.
Adding threading, groups, rich DM, would turn twitter into an IRC-meme product, useless. twitter is more a broadcasting product and needs to focus on search, trends, more than interaction
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from Nambu
simply because they take it seriousely, remember friend real life one are watching
- abdellah
seriously the most ridiculous is their trend :) have you take time to see twitter trend?
- abdellah
Robert: I think Facebook is a different creature altogether -- The engagement could stem from IM-ing, or maybe from the silly apps and quizzes you take in it. I personally don't like Facebook, I rarely go in there, and only update the status by having my Twitter linked to it. And I have to disagree, my engagement is still on Twitter more than Friendfeed, and I haven't seen any particular increase or decrease there. Sure, topics like this keep me refreshing the page, but that happens on Forums too :)
- Javier Altman
Robert: Facebook is like Friendfeed. we share our personal images with friends (when not web celebs) share blog posts, comments about small things. It's a more intimate community. There is a lot of common ground.
- Richard A.
Javier: you really need to sit down with me sometime and I'll show you why facebook is so much more engaging. It has nothing to do with what you're talking about. YOUR engagement might be high. I'm talking about the aggregate.
- Robert Scoble
I have been using both for awhile; per your suggestion actually. I might not be the master of this stuff, but I think it's not really a matter of belief; more to do with how you (an individual) want to use both sites. Like I said, I like Friendfeed more and wish more people I know use it, but it's really up to the person, no? I've been quite happy in terms of how I use both, granted FF is far more organized, and also has more reach if you know how to use it right.
- Just OOH
Robert: might be hard to do from Argentina to California, but I'm game :D But seriously, can you expound on the aggregate?
- Javier Altman
i want more of my face to face friends here too, but they aren't so tech or early adopters. if they are here, not to participate - just stream. educating the general public on value here will make this stand out more.
- Courtney Engle
Courtney: they will come. Twitter had the same feel to it two years ago.
- Robert Scoble
"Aggregation"-wise yes. I agree that FF is FAR more better/advanced than Twitter.
- Just OOH
Courtney. They're on Facebook though right? Just use the status messages as a form of twitter. It's just as versatile as twitter itself.
- Richard A.
from my point of view, FF is more personal, because as some oy you said, we can post fotos, we can play some games, it is for me a distraction, Twitter is more profitable to find interested people who work on your market or have the same interests on particular subjects. That's why i make a big difference btw both sites, the contents i put is totaly opposite
- Alice Cordonnier
Robert Llewellyn is another one who's really into it as well he talks back to the twitterers (okay, he was teasing me about knowing about red dwarf 9, but you know) and he's big into blip. and to a point, yes, even bloody ashton and demi :P
- Terry O'Fee
I don't get how you could make Twitter be threaded and still have it be Twitter, which is this rolling stream. You can have little micro convos on Twitter but it's easier to get into a fight precisely because most people on Twitter are on broadcast mode, dispensing with a pearl of wisdom they imagine their hundreds or thousands of fans merely want to docilely listen to, and they hate backtalk. Whoever gets the good backtalk app working will win.
- Prokofy Neva
This is probably a noob question, but Plurk offers convo threading, grouping in the form of cliques so why aren't people talking about it as a viable option to the address the concerns listed above?
- Kimberly Nolting
the interface :)
- abdellah
Robert - I believe FB is more popular (not better, mind) because it's social networking at its simplest. it's wonderful for older parents who don't get twitter or friendfeed to sign up and add as much or as little as they want. perfect for the people who just want a small, family connection online..
- Terry O'Fee
personnaly I will not use it for just one reason the damn interface.
- abdellah
@Kimberly: probably because Plurk didn't ever get critical mass of users. Without the userbase, you can have the best app, and never get anywhere.
- Javier Altman
Kimberly: the UI of Plurk feels like a coloring book to me. I never took to it. The people who joined it at first also were not the kind of people who I wanted to have conversations with. Plus, friendfeed was way way way better at all this stuff than Plurk was and friendfeed was started by three superstars from Google. Plurk? I don't even know the people who started it.
- Robert Scoble
terry, FB is more particular due to it rigid rule, compared to twitter or FF the process on mutual fellowing is a walk in fire.
- abdellah
Funny that back when I started using Twitter in 2006, it was bad etiquette to have too many @'s in your stream. Now that seems to be inversed.
- Sam Harrelson
plurk needs to get rid of that stupid karma crap as well. people on there "plurk" and reply so theyre top of their karma, not because they feel like it
- Terry O'Fee
I agree with Alice's point as well. I just don't like rules set forth on this stuff. I enjoy both, wish more were on FF as I would certainly use it more than Twitter, but they are simply not. Let's just agree to disagree on some points and call it a day Scobs. Also, NO need to insult someone's intelligence because they might not be able to use this stuff as well as you do. That's just not a good conversation, speaking of..
- Just OOH
you deserve a kiss for the karma mention, I hate it
- abdellah
Just Out Of Home: you are right. I'm sorry.
- Robert Scoble
abdellah - mwah!
- Terry O'Fee
Robert: I do remember early Twitter. It was still mostly status update. Too much of that now seems like they don't have much to contribute and aren't connecting. If Twitter users just do status updates it seems like they are self absorbed or lack contribution of some sort. They're still learning over there. Wait till their eyes open here.
- Courtney Engle
Robert - Wouldn't you consider that regardless of what Twitter's "expected usage" is, that it is most certainly in a nascet stage right now? Facebook was not perfect at 2 years, and is not perfect now. Neither is a GMail or friendfeed. It's best use at the moment is not "typical conversation" but it can have its place. If people would unfollow you simply because you attempt to have a...
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- Patrick Boegel
I'm sorry, but how the hell would you be able to cope with the stream of information on Friendfeed (considering all that gets aggregated) if it had Twitter's mass? You'd be able to "follow" 20 people and that's it, otherwise you'd never be able to be involved with anybody.
- Javier Altman
terry , mwah too (what about kiss feature here in FF) :)
- abdellah
Richard: I turned the Twitter sync off as I want my FB wall to not be overwhelmed in my tweets. I keep it for friends to post there, reply, and engage. The sync would make it a mass broadcast firehose drowning those yet to know Twitter or FF, but I do have digg, greader, flickr, etc all synced back to my wall.
- Courtney Engle
OT a little, do you ever see in the future a greater integration with gps services on phones with social networks?? imagine being able to see twitters from people in your area. able to contact or @ them?? imagine the advertisers, theyd have a field day! a computer twittering deals close by to where you are...
- Terry O'Fee
Javier: you are absolutely wrong. I'm following 14,000 and 28,000 are following me here on friendfeed and it's FAR easier to deal with large numbers here than over on twitter.
- Robert Scoble
@Terry isn't that called Loopt?
- Javier Altman
terry, oh yes and it sound pretty good perspective, but there will be always a spammer here or elswere to make thing collapse, the main problem with twitter is that twitter bases how fragile and how risky to build on fragile foundation.
- abdellah
Robert: Hmm, I see. It could very well be the way I interact with these type of service then. If Twitter only has 140 character lines as the only input and I already have a hard time keeping up with the people I follow, I can't imagine how chaotic it'd be to do that here, plus all the other aggregated info (digg, youtube, likes, dislikes, commenting, etc...)
- Javier Altman
Courtney, I don't sync twitter with facebook. I tweet far too much. What I mean is that it's short messages people can comment on without having to join a new service :-)
- Richard A.
Javier: because you aren't seeing the advantages of having lists, rooms, and the metadata that lets you hide lame stuff (you can hide all tweets that don't have a like, for instance).
- Robert Scoble
Terry, Google latitude has been running non stop on my phone for three weeks by now, works fine. used it to meet one friend a few times already.
- Richard A.
Javier: you should watch this video: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Robert Scoble
Robert and Javier. I hide all tweets that haven't been responded to. Works well for me.
- Richard A.
i dont just mean advertising though, it would be awesome for twitter meetups for example. where is @(insertname), you could have them on a list to see where they are, see just tweets from people in the area as well, i mean out here in the sticks it would be useless, but in the cities it would be interesting. sure, we have brightkite now, but im thinking in a more twitter esque direction
- Terry O'Fee
Richard: don't add more than 150 people to Latitude until version 2 comes out. I can't use it on my phone anymore cause I added 250. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Terry. There's a service that's being developed in Switzerland that would represent that type of information, but still early days... have to see how it evolves.
- Richard A.
Javier, have you explored the "Hide" feature and its "Hide entries like this" options?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
latitude updates an area, mainly brightkite does the same. imagine posting an entry and the phone instantly updates where that post (or reply) has come from. there will still be privacy settings of course but it would put the social really into social media..
- Terry O'Fee
Robert: Yeah, then again that probably happens because the people I'm interested in the most, that would drive me to actually sit down and organize all this information into rooms, etc. isn't here on FF, but they are on Twitter and FB. I definitely see the superiority of FF in terms of app, I guess I'm just a bit apprehensive to its complexity?
- Javier Altman
Robert: I'm not going to, but I have invited my direct family to follow and the occasional friend. Working fine for me. :-). I'm loving the service.
- Richard A.
Javier: you aren't the only one. Friendfeed is too complex and they know it. Hopefully they'll have an answer to that soon,
- Robert Scoble
No prob. Scobs. I know you get passionate about this stuff; just know that most of us are not as advanced as you. There is a learning curve with FF, and I'm sure you agree with that. It will take time.. Anyway, I've learned a lot from you by following you on both, and checked out FF because you suggested it and like it a lot. Just think it's up to the individual in terms of usage. Hopefully this conversation gets more people (including ones I know) on FF as it can do a lot more. Have a good day Scobs~
- Just OOH
@Richard: Dude, if a lot of people do what you do of hiding un-commented stuff, you'd miss, essentially, all of my content on FF. :D
- Javier Altman
terry, now after the enthusiast plz make some dark side to the whole project, I mean how could this new service be bad or hurting or make people in danger,!!
- abdellah
@Bruce: Not really, I probably should. But I just am not on FF enough to really explore it. I only pop in here when Robert posts this kind of thing that drives me here.
- Javier Altman
Robert: Tweetdeck FF video was great. need to clean up my lists of people, conduct searches & filters. Sorting through the pile now could take a while. I just put most into homefeed.
- Courtney Engle
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- Moghamer
Javier, but I follow people on twitter with twhirl, so i don't need the same tweets in two places. I don't want to answer without the answer being read.
- Richard A.
I'm in the same boat as Javier; the people I'm most interested in are on Twitter and FB, not FF. FF IS much better for having conversations yes, but they are often mostly about tech, food, memes and cats, so the point for some of us is moot. FF still needs a lot of work - you can't hide based on keywords; I may not want to see someone's posts on cats but I might want to see their other stuff, so filtering is very crude.
- Sally Church
Javier, you're probably over-thinking it. Try to dumb yourself down a little. Say, "This is something I don't care to see", click Hide, and follow the prompts. I think FriendFeed might actually be easier for late adopters because early adopters have all these preconceived notions about how UIs are to be structured.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
The big downside to FF over Twitter is that it requires a lot more work to make it work well and ends up with over-hiding, filtering or user scripts etc. If it's too much work it gets dispiriting. If you like tech, cats or memes then you will be in hog heaven here.
- Sally Church
@Richard: That is perfectly understandable -- btw, say hi to Maggie for me :D
- Javier Altman
Twitter is now the "classifieds" section of the social media newspaper. It's a good place to announce something. And you can start a lot of conversations with very little investment. But it is nearly impossible to carry on a dialog though the classifieds. And while you can write (or link to) a long-winded missive on Twitter, it just isn't suited for that. But sometimes, you just need to get a message out very cheaply. And Twitter does that job admirably.
- Lorin Olsen
@Robert... Twitter : Megaphone = FF : Coffe ;-)
- Luca Perugini
lorin, does this mean that twitter is a buzz machine injector?!!
- abdellah
Javier, maggieconv? Will do.
- Richard A.
@Robert ... Twitter as a Megaphone and FF as a Coffee ;-)
- Luca Perugini
It's like a shouting on a market square.
- Dimitar Vesselinov
I was showing my non-tech wife Twitter this week and right away she picked up on the difficulty of following conversations.
- Paul Rodriguez
There's a reason they call Twitter "microblogging". It's like blogging. It's hard to have an extended multi-way conversation with trackbacks.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Twitter is see current threads and Friendfeed is to talk about them
- Kim Landwehr
People who think twitter is about microblogging are the ones I don't follow.
- Richard A.
richard, so twitter is about what?!!
- abdellah
@Richard: Ok, then that brings me to a question: what is the proper use for Twitter then? I share interesting news stories from Google Reader, comment on life, use it as a cathartic tool on on occasion, comment on other people's tweets... Is that all that Twitter is, or am I missing something?
- Javier Altman
@abdellah I used to think of it as a multiplatform chat too.
- Richard A.
richard, yes it can but we haven't to do because we can. this is what bring all the pb people travesty the use of the service if they do using the api it would be intelligent and a source of innovation, but they do using the original service what make thing go out of hand.
- abdellah
Twitter has suffered from having so man new users that don't know what works and doesn't. As a result the early adopters have really decreased how often they use it.
- Richard A.
Twitter is the conversational equivalent of playing phonetag but it is definitely more lightweight than FF.
- Stephan Miller
from Friend Deck
stephan, the word playing resume the whole really :)
- abdellah
These are valid points. Never thought Twitter is an extended conversation tool. Maybe with new features like targeted tweets to different groups it can become one. It's still early days for them when you listen to Evan Williams.
- Joe Buhler
it doesn't have to be "all conversation" or "no conversation". Twitter can be for "some kinds of conversations" or "somewhat for conversation". Or you can endlessly argue that "no it isn't for conversation" and "yes it is for conversation". It's in between. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
- Stephanie Booth
from twhirl
Evan Williams is the last person in the world I'll listen to when it comes to twitter. I'd rather speak to actual users of the service.
- Richard A.
I am new to Friend Feed, but not Twitter. Thanks for the lesson in FF!
- Rachel Levy
I think the big issues are #2 and #5. While search.twitter allows you to view a conversation between two people, it's far from efficient. When twitter fixes this problem, it will be a much better conversation platform.
- David Spinks
Both have their uses - and Twitter can definitely use an upgrade. I can see more journalists type people (like yourself) get more benefits from FriendFeed.
- Chris Gieger
Robert, that commonmistakesblog entry is weird. If you need to be told how to have conversations "correctly", then there is something wrong with the service.
- Andy Bakun
Twitter as a broadcasting channel only makes sense if you either 1) have a lot of followers, or 2) have followers who retweet all your tweets. This is actually no different than having a blog.
- Andy Bakun
Proof is in the pudding. Would *this* conversation happen on Twitter? No. Twitter was built as a status update service. It does that nicely. Conversations is a square peg being fit into a round hole.
- AJ Kohn
I think Friendfeed should add this list functionality into its posts. It is annooyin when people start commenting before the list is done.
- Sweyn Venderbush
from twhirl
Again I think Scoble is trying to make Twitter what he wants instead of what it is. No problem with that I guess. Twitter is great for general broadcasts and as someone else said a few quick back and forths. Those are still conversations. Just short ones. What Robert wants are discussions. Which Twitter is not for...Twitter is great for the mobile crowd who like to do as they go. There are other forums for those who like to sit at their desk and have long community discussions.
- Sidney
@Andy I think too many people who are currently into Social Media (the tech crowd) try to look at Twitter as what they can get out of it on a business level. I think it is much easier to say, "Hey I'm hitting lunch at this place who's joining me?" and it goes to all my friends instead of having to SMS everyone. This is functionality the non-techs are using it for. It's useful. Saves time and isn't meant for long drawn out discussions.
- Sidney
Something else struck me about that commonmistakesblog post... it suggests you put context in all your tweets in order to not piss of your followers who don't know what the hell you're talking about. By the time you put in context (repeating what was said already so people can jump in the middle), and @replies, the 140 character limit becomes even further limited.
- Andy Bakun
Andy: +100.
- Robert Scoble
honestly I like plurk better than twitter.I don't check friendfeed and reply to stuff that often.
- Logan Lindquist
Logan: that's cool. I just never got into Plurk. The UI there is too inefficient for me and too goofy.
- Robert Scoble
yea I agree the UI could be more mainstream, but the features and community are much better
- Logan Lindquist
Logan: I'll give it another try. Everytime I've gone there I didn't like the community. It shows that if you don't see people you recognize you'll not like the service.
- Robert Scoble
wow, im surprised that there are still people who try to enforce rules to tools like twitter,how incredibly naive. twitter is a tool, people use tools the way they want and need to, despite what you, or i tell them, its this that forms the basis of human and techno-evolution...if twitter is being used by people for conversations then it obviously meets that need at some level. its this evolution of technology that drives (or should drive) successful product and service developments,
- john
Kind of makes you wonder what made Twitter take off in the first place? Identi.ca, Plurk, Pownce, Jaiku......Is Twitter really that much better? Is it the name? Viral "marketing"? I tend to lean toward the name. I fear that FriendFeed will never catch on simply because of the name. It's not "glitzy". Neither are identi.ca, plurk, pownce, or jaiku. I'd much rather support identi.ca because it's open source.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
@slayerboy: twitter's power is a global namespace which allows for interesting social dynamics: you want to know what your friends are doing, you want to share cool experiences with them, you want to follow people you admire. Twitter sux at conversations but they are *very* good at those other use cases and they are dead simple. That and they were able to attract some of the most vocal bloggers and social media advocates (Robert included)!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
robert: well of course if the people you follow don't use it then its not much use. its funny how everyone hates twitter and they keep using it. its like the myspace of mico-blogging.
- Logan Lindquist
Absolutely agree with #5 Robert - "5. You can't bundle up a conversation and save it for later, like you can with this one. (You can even permalink to this conversation and link to it from a Tweet, but you can't do that in Twitter itself)" I find myself getting more and more frustrated with NOT being able to follow a conversation on Twitter... and esp. a conversation between 2 others...
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- Deanna Belle Govoni
That gives me some inspiration, Deanna. I'd like to see a feature on friendfeed that lets you "lock" an entry to just being commented by a few people, but still be public. You could do interviews and debates this way. It would be asynchronous because new activity floats it to the top where you can see it again. The most recent stuff is the stuff that shows by default (with the previous...
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- Andy Bakun
I guess you could do the same thing with a restricted access room, but they don't have the same exposure, and there's less chance of it cropping up randomly.
- Andy Bakun
@Andy Bakun - Yep, the less clicks the better and the less CLUTTER the better - have you seen this post yet?: http://friendfeed.com/e... - too much noise is frustrating, who has time to sift through it all? Your idea is interesting,do you mean that you'd want to be able to "flag" comments from specific...
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- Deanna Belle Govoni
That's a damn good idea, Deanna, the non-focused comments being collapsible. This would help keep things on topic, keep the focus on the target participants, but not restrict other people from participating. It's threads like this one, with 156 comments, that show the power of the FF medium and presentation and UX. Some minor tweaks and there are additional possibilities.
- Andy Bakun
Lorin, good comparison the classifieds and trying to have a conversation through them. Even better would be a comparison to the "missed connections" section of the classifieds.
- Andy Bakun
Facebook just laid down the gauntlet to friendfeed. The new Facebook looks awesome. Of course we need to try it first, but this takes the real-time web forward.
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Not to mention Twitter now looks second rate to both friendfeed and Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
We shall see.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
@robert i wouldnt classify twitter in the same category as FF and FB
- andy brudtkuhl
Are you referring to some new changes your viewing privately?
- Mark Krynsky
isn't it the people using the service that matter. losers from my high school friend me on facebook and have nothing to say. i interact with all walks of life on twitter. that's what it will always be about to me.
- Jeff DiStanlo
Also I think FB and FF (obviously) have completely different markets regardless of cross functionality. (yes, im a FB hater)
- andy brudtkuhl
eric schmidt would
- Todd Randolph
Seeing is believing. I will wait till it goes live. remember the last time facebook had the kind of opposition with a new design. I always liked it though.
- Hardeep Singh Dang
@Jeff - exactly
- andy brudtkuhl
Wow looks amazing can't wait to start using this
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
They got close to unlimited friends. They sucked up to Arrington, but this will let us both create pages where we can interact with large groups of people in public and also keep our separate friends and family controls so we can see just stuff from our families, for instance. This sounds very good.
- Robert Scoble
@Todd eric shmidt would what?
- andy brudtkuhl
i agree it's a step ahead, but i don't think friendfeed is in danger. it's the users over the platform, right?
- David Bisset (sn)
yeah it really looks like an evolution, ending at FF
- anna sauce
I don't get it. Facebook isn't an aggrigator. It can't do what FF does. Facebook spits out it's information stream to FF, where I gather all my other streams in one place.
- Matthew DeVries
the question is...will we let one company be our everything for social messaging, or do we force the industry to follow a service model...and spend the next 20 years sorting out standards like we did with HTML/CSS?
- Dave Powell
from twhirl
meh
- LogEx
Facebook has so much twitter and friendfeed envy, its not even funny. Still, when they got the eyeballs...
- Jarrod Morgenstern
Technological superiority does not mean it will win (ref. Betamax versus VHS) :) I think Twitter´s basically just simple protocol and API provide a freedom to create strange spinoff services and imaginative clients which a lot of people value. People want a tool not a finished piece of art behind glass.
- Thomas Bøhm
It feels to me like Facebook will be to social networking and services like FriendFeed what Windows is to operating systems and Linux/etc. Easy enough for your parents to use, not necessarily the best out there, has momentum, enough market share that they can sorta do whatever they want, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
I disagree Matthew, Facebook is an aggregator. That's exactly how I use it mostly.
- David Jacobs
David: It only aggregates through their bizarre ass application system, that won't let you even have a feed unless you give them 5 friends they can bug first.
- Matthew DeVries
What it looks like is nothing without who you're following. My FF and FB friends DO NOT overlap. The UI is moot without community.
- Anika
I use all three so differently I cant see one taking the business of the other from me. I interact with a lot of different types of people on Twitter. Facebook is pretty much friends only and FF is more of an aggregator for me to see what is going on in different sectors. The conversation is more discussion and less conversation to me. Twitter is where I have the conversations what some might say I used to use the phone for.
- Sidney
I don't intend to make friends with all of you on facebook (or really any of you). But I like reading what you have to say here. Long live FF.
- Christopher Galtenberg
FB is for spying and sharing photos with real friends and family, FF for conversation, twitter for news and interesting links
- Ryan
I don't think Facebook move challenges the niches of Friendfeed or Twitter. Friendfeed and Twitter never have been able to challenge the Facebook niche, because that was all about sharing content in private with friends. Twitter and Friendfeed are for the people who like the open web, for the people who live (at least part of) their life in the open. Likewise, facebook photos is not a challenge to Flickr.
- Meryn Stol
I don't have a Facebook account anymore. The content on Facebook means nothing to me.
- Meryn Stol
Mark Zuckerberg just shredded your yellow pages. HUGE day for Facebook (photo):
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How did he do that? Updates please.
- Hardeep Singh Dang
He just announced that brands and celebrities would be "full members" in the social graph. That is a HUGE shift in Facebook's strategy.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, what does "brands and celebrities would be 'full members' in the social graph" mean? Why do celebrities matter? Oy, these guys are going to become MySpace. Just another crappy pickup website.
- Rob Fahrni
details please...
- John Czwartacki
english please!
- David Bisset (sn)
@Robert Scoble: so instead of being fan "pages" they'll be actual profiles?
- nick
well i guess this is their answer to the user growth.. i dont really care for it..
- Adam Snodgrass
They should change their name to MyFace
- Darin Codon
is it a small step from brands to companies and organizations of all types?
- Dan Brickley
That's strange, my yellow pages are right here, unshredded. But I will keep a keen eye on its imminent destruction.
- Omar Gallaga
who has yellow pages anymore?
- Deva Hazarika
Going back to mail2ff from OurDoings, eh? Anything I can fix?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Deva: I have them. They are yellow.
- Omar Gallaga
Isn't this what Rupert said they were - facebook = phonebook? He saw MySpace as diffferent and o-so-much better. Wonder if he's still going to use that argument.
- Tom
@Darin: there already is a MyFace (http://www.myface.com/) so they can't :P
- Rene Wirtz
http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2009... - FINALLY!
- Marc Canter
It just looks like another site reorg like they just did a few months ago. FaceSpace still isn't Twitter or FriendFeed.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
Yellow PAges is AWESOME = for Firewood in Fireplace
- Deborah Micek
Good lede on twitter, but nothing useful upon clickthrough. Bad journalistic tactic.
- Michael Krakovskiy
The last dead tree version of the yellow pages I have is from 1998 - don't miss it so never chased phone company
- Andy Beard
Michael : the rest of my feed here has a TON of stuff.
- Robert Scoble
how are they going to make money, that's what I want to know
- Ryan
Yahoo! Launches Major Challenge to Facebook Connect http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Exciting but i'm just beginning to incorporate Facebook connect into my sites and projects. Wondering how soon I have to add, if at all, Yahoo to that.
- David Bisset (sn)
not to say rah-rah, but JS-Kit will do both in one
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
from IM
In my view it's just another bunch of settings to keep track of and update. I just want stuff to work. How about I keep all of my data on my own site and Yahoo, Google, FB et al can come and grab it for theirs?
- Karoli
interesting perspective Karoli, makes sense to me!
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
from IM
Fliggo - Create your own video site and build a community - http://www.fliggo.com
ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,, Gökmen Karasu, nfan12 and 12 other people liked this
just had a revamp apparently....
- Zee.
need to try it. there sure are a lot of Video start-ups around.
- SnakeDoc
interesting css there: ".fuck_ie" lol
- Brandon
hahaha - really? lol
- Zee.
Brandon - Haha!
- Larry Hudson
oh that is brilliant...
- Zee.
cool!
- TheHenry
some of their "most popular" channels only have one member?
- David Bisset (sn)
bumped due to duplicate
- LouCypher
Apple store is down! Updates coming soon I guess.
TheHenry, Neo Zhang, Joe Dawson and 3 other people liked this
Heh... tuesdays! ;-)
- Andre
Crossing my fingers for a Mac Pro, although i thought the rumors were that i wasn't coming out for AT LEAST a month and a half because of the new Intel chips. Looks like iMac and Mac mini (and new monitors) are almost a sure thing.
- David Bisset (sn)
Place your bets? New Mini, Imac or Mac Pro?
- Andrew Leyden
Gizmodo has a picture of a 'box' http://i.gizmodo.com/5162911... Unfortunately there is an embargo on what is inside.
- Andrew Leyden
Andrew, my bets are on Imacs. My hopes are on Mac Pros.
- David Bisset (sn)
That is a big box. Mac pro, mini, apple tv, ipod, iphone, 30" screen etc.. everything new, all in one box.
- Simon Wicks
I'll be upgrading my early-2008 Mac Pro if they have a new model, but I'm not sure if it will be a major case redesign or an incremental upgrade.
- Andrew Leyden
New Mac Mini Packaging Spy Shot - Mac Rumors - http://www.macrumors.com/2009...
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Earlier today, we received a product photo of what is claimed to be the new Mac Mini. Without another source, we published it on Page 2 and called it a likely fake. OneMoreThing.nl, however, has received the same image and feels it's likely to be real. While some thought it was strange for Apple to feature the back of the Mini on the packaging, it follows the same format as the back of their current Mac mini retail box (Photo of back of current box). Meanwhile, the logo depicted in the photograph represents the NVIDIA chipset: This would be consistent with rumors, circulating spy shots and expectations of an imminent Mac mini update. Previous reports from Kodawarisan have predicted updates as early as Tuesday.
- Simon Wicks
Safari Beta Takeup Tops Firefox, IE and Chrome - http://www.itpro.co.uk/610047...
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"The release of the beta for the next version of Apple's Safari browser last week helped drive Apple's market share above ten per cent. The Safari beta has gained users at a rate of about 0.5 per cent a day since its release, topping one per cent by day four. For comparison, Microsoft's beta of IE took six months to hit one percent, Chrome needed almost a month, and Firefox 3 took a week."
- Thomas Bøhm
from Bookmarklet
ElGato EYETV vs Equinux THE TUBE | - http://www.tvtunersticks.com/usb-hdt...
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"Equinux, makers of the TUBESTICK USB Hybrid Tuner and authors of MEDIA CENTRAL have been very aggressive with updates to their PVR software ‘THE TUBE’. As such they’re proving to be a worthy competitor to ElGato who’s long dominated the Apple Mac TV scene with EyeTV for many years."
- Seth Greenblatt
from Bookmarklet
Apple Officially Brings Back MobileMe's Push, Improves Features - http://i.gizmodo.com/5161256...
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"Apple just sent out an email to MobileMe subscribers to let them know of some new(ish) features. The biggest bullet point is the fact that push is back."
- Jonathan Kong
from Bookmarklet
I like the easier sharing large files capability. Nice.
- Kate Foy
Mac Users Rejoice! We Now Have a Full Fledged Desktop Google Contact Manager! - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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This works VERY well!
- Zee.
sweet... i'm not sure how i missed this.
- Joshua Schnell
Does it mess with your Gtalk contact list?
- Paul Grav
wow!
- TranceMist
nice it exists, but i prefer browser only these days.
- Allards
IPhone Apps: 5-Row QWERTY Jailbreak App Fixes One of the iPhone Keyboard's Most Annoying Flaws - http://i.gizmodo.com/5160195...
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Safari 4: "Vagabond Tabs" - http://onebuttonmouse.com/ramblin...
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"But imagine if auto makers took this to an extreme, and put those controls at the ten o’clock and two o’clock position, where you hold the wheel, and actually mounted the buttons exactly under your fingers and hands — right on the surface of the steering wheel grip. Anytime you tried to turn the wheel you had to be extra careful that you didn’t change the radio station, or turn on the heater."
- Thomas Bøhm
from Bookmarklet
Free Apple themed desktop wallpapers from The Graphic Mac - http://thegraphicmac.com/free-ap...
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tomorrow night The Simpsons will air their very first episode in HD including a new extended intro to the show http://laughingsquid.com/new-ext...
Kathy, Susan Beebe, Ryan Sholin and 9 other people liked this
The Simpsons finally upgraded to a flat screen
- Bryce, Low in Sodium
About freakin' time!
- Jesse Stay
Oh wow! I love the mix of old + new Simpsons stuff in the intro. Much improvement!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
What the new Pepsi logo looks like to me - http://www.suckatlife.com/pepsiLo...
Dennis R., Emre Erdoğan, Rob H. and 23 other people liked this
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
LOL... I'll never look at it the same way again.
- rowlikeagirl
is that Britney Spears in a belly shirt?
- Morgan Haley
PomPom's shape with Strongsad's face?
- Matthew DeVries
Stop drinking all that Pepsi. You getting Very FAT
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Hah, I thought one of them looked like a marble.
- Tyson Key
+Matthew.
- Kamilah Gill
My boring take on the new logo: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Cheryl Jones
Current vs. New redesign (still working on it) for Lifestream Blog. What you think?
Nicholas James, Rajiv Doshi, Andrew Terry and 36 other people liked this
I prefer the lighter look which is readable. Open spaces are better. Also the RSS button is more professional.
- Louis Gray
+1 for the one on the right!
- Mona Nomura
Haha Louis re: RSS button. Yea I think I got the one I'm using now at pick a part.
- Mark Krynsky
I'm using this theme http://www.askgraphics.com/freetem... but hacked it quite a bit.
- Mark Krynsky
New design is so much better.
- Pavel Senko
Another one for the right here. I love clean looks.
- Amani
One major consideration is to go single column sidebar on the right. I'm really leaning towards doing that.
- Mark Krynsky
The layout of the right hand is cleaner; I like that. But I like the stronger blues of the left hand side.
- Andrew C
I'm torn between the cleaner white look and the blues on the left. Let's put this to a Twitter vote. Better yet, Use twtpoll.
- J. D. Ebberly
I tried it with the stronger blues but I didn't like it as much and reverted back to the original blue the theme uses. Guess I'm just tired of the current look.
- Mark Krynsky
Lighter version is a lot cleaner and simple.
- Chris Frost
looks good
- Cee Bee
I think the entire header looks greatly improved. The big logo looks nice.
- Mitch
New layout light years better
- Mo Kargas
Another vote for the new design. I like the lighter, cleaner feel of the redesign.
- ♥patricia♥
Thanks for all the feedback guys. Glad most are liking the new design. I'm also going to add some other goodies too on the site that I use to monitor Lifestreaming news.
- Mark Krynsky
The new design is much nicer, more calming to the eye. I don't mind the right 2 panels having a background colour but it should perhaps only be a shade or 2 darker than the header.
- Kol Tregaskes
The new one is a nice improvement. Like bigger headlines and smaller rss icon. Nice that the menu is a bit more far away from content, good positioning.
- Jesper Lind
I like the newer cleaner look.
- Russ Jackson
very nice redesign, but... could use another color palette ? .. a lot of sites are using a blue palette ... is getting boring ... but very nice work indeed
- Nelson Fernandez
The lighter one is ten times better. I'd look into the color of the logo though. Maybe a darker tint of the same hue (or slightly different) as the blue-ish background would look better. Or a wholly different color.
- Meryn Stol
I like it, it's lighter, cleaner and less distracting
- Nestor
Minimalism, ftw. :)
- Derrick
nice & clean
- andy brudtkuhl
Very clean. I would make just one change: remove the Search Box + "GO" button combo in the header and replace with the RSS subscriber count. There is no need to have 2 search boxes on the same page.
- vijay
Refreshing and light. Maybe darker text? Maybe some stronger division lines to set off the header and sidebars?
- Austin King
I like the darker one, color-wise, but the lighter one looks less cluttered.
- Anika
like
- Shevonne
Thanks so much for all the feedback everyone. You guys rock. I'm considering all comments and suggestions for the next round of changes.
- Mark Krynsky
yeah, I like the light one better. Less oppressive and I would actually read through that site.
- Chieze Okoye
I like the lighter look.
- Kamilah Gill
the redesign is looking good Mark
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I like the new one a lot. Not sure about the green border on the logo, though - maybe pick up the darker blue from the old header for that? Unless you want the green to equate with "life."
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
If green, then at least a brighter green. This type of green is kind of depressing. Maybe green text with white or dark border to contrast.
- Meryn Stol
I don't like the logo...
- Alex Sauceda
I like the new look, it looks more clean.
- Flavio
Hi Mark! I like the clean white one... and definitely go for the one column on the right! Follow your instincts.
- Trish Haley
Etsy :: EveningArwen :: Star Trek Inspired Corset - http://www.etsy.com/view_li...
Ryan Anderson, Voyagerfan5761, Felicia Yue and 18 other people liked this
Um... WOW.
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
This is one FriendFeed item I have no qualms about pushing the 'Like' button for. :-)
- Paul Wilcox
that is... something, innit?
- Jenna Bilotta
Wow, but it would be just as good without the logo. Really, I'm not *that* into Star Trek.
- Kenton
People are paying $500 _a week_ to be featured on TwitterCounter, and have their #'s go up. Insane. http://twittercounter.com/pages...
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Crazy!
- Michael Fidler
LOL good business model TwitterCounter!
- Bwana ☠
Heh, mine climbs just find on its own. No way I'm paying to gain readers.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
That's crazy.
- Shevonne
Then what? ...profit?
- Josh Haley
hahahahahaha. That's like paying for a gmail account. Remember that? OK, it's not really the same, but WTF???
- Laura Norvig
Pay me $500 and I'll make you feel loved and important too.
- Dave Gambrill
you use to have to pay for gmail?
- stanleyyork
Insane
- Jemm
I prefer to never be a Social Media super star than paying for it (cheating)! Even if Soc. Meds lead for business opportunities.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Customer Service: Why a Twitter Presence is a Necessity | The Lost Jacket - http://thelostjacket.com/custome...
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"Referrals are vital to a business. The best advocate for your company will always be a satisfied customer. They are unbiased (usually) and want to genuinely share their experience so it can be utilized by others. Great customer service is fair, honest and extremely helpful/forthcoming with information. Sometimes the best answer can be “I don’t know, but I’ll ask my supervisor.” instead of an off the cuff (and often wrong) answer. Small changes/tweaks in customer service behavior can have a massive impact on your business. So wondering why I’m writing about customer service instead of marketing right now? I want to illustrate the difference between companies on Twitter and companies off of Twitter. Twitter is the ultimate brand manager/customer service machine. You can have unsolicited (and often unfiltered) opinions of your company/brand freely flowing through out the space. Those companies that monitor the feeds and respond in a timely manner (or add value to those interacting with them) are going to "
- Internet Strategist
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Streaming Video Flash FLV Encoder, Stream Videos on Amazon S3 and CloudFront #web - http://www.streamincloud.com/
Morton Fox, Daniel Rowley, David Bisset (sn) and 3 other people liked this
"Streamincloud.com is a free FLV encoder for Amazon S3 and CloudFront. We'll monitor your bucket for new video files and encode them in the popular Flash FLV video format."
- Seth Greenblatt
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Hacking Twitter (Wired.com) - http://blog.wired.com/busines...
Moses Kpetigo, Deborah Micek, Jesper Lind and 41 other people liked this
Just amazing what can be done with 140 characters.
- David Bisset (sn)
With my luck my washing machine would get more followers than me.
- Keith Beucler
me too Keith :-/
- David Wynn
cool. i want my xbox 360 to tweet
- David
@David - http://duncanmackenzie.net/blog...
- Andrew Terry
I would like to tie in a GPS tracker w/ twitter - many uses right there.
- David Bisset (sn)
Bisset, The Brightkite iPhone app can do that with the 3G.
- coldbrew
How to Survive the 17 Worst Mac Disasters - http://www.maclife.com/article...
Scott Maentz, Bill Sodeman, ozgur koca and 7 other people liked this
"Macs are pretty reliable computers, but that doesn’t mean
they’re not vulnerable to user error, accidents, and, in some cases, just plain stupidity. We compile a list of the most common “uh-oh” moments on a Mac and show you how to make them all better--and prevent them from happening in the future."
- Seth Greenblatt
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These are great tips. Definitely bookmarked it just in case. Thanks!
- Shevonne
Nice. I'm keeping this around when i get my Mac in a few months.
- David Bisset (sn)
Apple's Next-Gen iPhone Picture Getting Clearer | All Apple News - http://apple.click2creation.com/index...
ozgur koca, David Bisset (sn), Christopher Harley and Bill Koslosky liked this
"In the year-and-a-half since the launch of the iPhone, there have been numerous attempts to deliver a competing “iPhone killer” device. Some of these might even be successful. But for now, it seems the only thing that will beat the current iPhone may be its next-generation successor."
- Seth Greenblatt
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Notification Aggregator AlertThingy Rips A Page Out of TweetDeck’s Book - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"The battle between desktop notification tools continues. AlertThingy, one such tool with a knack for aggregating a handful of social networks, has released a third version that takes direct aim at competitor TweetDeck."
- Kol Tregaskes
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It's pretty cool. There is a FriendFeed edition but it's not as good as Twhirl or FriendDeck. But certainly a worthy alternative to try. Lindsey, yeah cool name. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
FriendFeed and Other Lifestreaming Services Need Filtering & Segmentation - http://lifestreamblog.com/friendf...
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