Wondering if we really need to see these tweets in real time on Google search results.... the quality of these tweets seems to be very low. Maybe Google should be filtering tweets.. Not sure how this is useful at all to someone searching Google for "Tiger Woods"
I think this will only increase twitter spam :(( Google is usually very very religious about their search result quality... not sure how this got through...
- Bindu Reddy
Exactly, the more you tweet, the better your chances are for a site hit
- sofarsoShawn
interesting. didn't even realize there's these kinds of google search results now. thanks for the heads up!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Yup, I am writing a bot that scrapes Google trends, extracts search terms and writes tweets every 2 minutes with those search terms :)
- Bindu Reddy
New SEO pioneering! I want in! & it's also not just Twitter, but also Jaiku, identi.ca Myspace, FriendFeed & Facebook. & Bing (except for FB & TW) won't be including them in their search results.
- sofarsoShawn
I the quality of all tweets seems to be very low.
- Gabe
Oh bleh. Just tried a search for "snow". The realtime results are very distracting. Let us opt out, or put it on the side somewhere.
- Laura Norvig
from iPod
It's good to bring more users to twitter though, as they keep getting twitter rubbed into their face. That being said I should try that search.
- Richard A.
Interesting. So you can try spam these services, and get a high position on Google immediately. But filtering... based on what? The usual filters work on authority which in turn often works on ratings, citations, backlinks etc., and these won't be real-time because people first have to see and digest the message in question in order to link, cite and rate it.
- Philipp Lenssen
It auto-updates and that is an interesting feature. That's something I could see some use for :-)
- Richard A.
On the spam and SEO topic. Don't you think it'd measure retweet strength. If a lot of people retweet a subject then the link would be more relevant/interesting than if just one person retweets. Sorry for going slightly off topic. As an aside do retweets move back up to the top of the search? Should try cop15 and see how it behaves.
- Richard A.
@Philipp: smart question (as usual). I guess that Google's rank/filter could be based not on the tweet, but on the tweeter: e.g. someone who has many followers is a good source, etc. E.g. Google too should (in this case) change its paradigm, switching from a "web of pages" to a "web of people".
- milivella
Google needs real time spam/foul language filter.
- ashish
from iPhone
Have they implemented safesearch for real time search?
- ashish
from iPhone
@Philipp You have nailed the issue :) It is really really difficult to get a good grip on "quality" if the information/data is real-time. I still can't really figure out what the motivation behind doing something like this on the Google main search results is.
- Bindu Reddy
Sometimes it is nice to see people giving their reactions to news or event in real time but I hope it improves overtime.
- ashish
from iPhone
Am I the only one here who is using Topsy http://www.topsy.com on a daily basis to cut through Twitter noise? Works like a charm. News recommender systems are the Next Big Thing.
- Sean McBride
Sean, I'm on twitter for the conversations :-). I looked at topsy and I'll have to play with it, see how I could have fun with it.
- Richard A.
I hope you're talking about an astronomical event, like the lunar cycle or something ;)
- Micah Wittman
Nope, sorry. I liked the movie. I know there are a lot of people wearing Twilight hater-pants around here, but I'm not wearing any pants... Wait, that's not right.
- Jason Huebel
The special effects are terrible and the story is all angsty, but despite all that I enjoyed it.
- Jason Huebel
Ya know what it is? I like being the Knight in Shining Armor type. I'm the guy who goes for slightly broken girls. So I kinda have the hots for Bella. What's wrong with me? ;-)
- Jason Huebel
I refuse to watch ANY of these movies because they try to pretend there is all this supernatural battle action in the trailers when it's really just some chick flick crap. Don't get me wrong, I'll watch a good chick flick, but don't try to trick me. That's just wrong.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I did, too. I'm mostly unapologetic for my enjoyment of Twilight.
- joey
The movies have been faithful to the books, so I can't complain. There are a few little changes, but nothing significant.
- Jason Huebel
Are the books easy/quick reads? I need to check them out, just to see.
- Joe Pierce
They're light reading, IMO. The first book was good. The second book kinda dragged on a little (until the end). The third book was good and the fourth book was probably my favorite. The Twilight series is a young adult series, so read them with that understanding.
- Jason Huebel
If you decide you like the Twilight books, you should also read Stephanie Meyer's adult sci-fi novel called The Host.
- Jason Huebel
Jason, I knew I was not wrong in high esteem of you. Now even if you start wearing Twilight t-shirts and sprinkling super fine glitter on yourself on sunny days... nothing can sway me. I still agree with all your comments here. Now go put your pants on!
- Trish Haley
I think I'm the only person in the world who wants my salad dressing ON the salad when I get it... And have just been made aware that there may be other contexts for this phrase that do not involve the innocent eating of a healthy lunch...
- Lindsay
Ah. No, you're not the only person in the world.
- Spidra Webster
I actually like mine tossed, too, Lindsey, to be perfectly honest. You just can't goop say, Caesar dressing on top of the hearts of romaine. THEY NEED TO BE MIXED UP GOOD.
- Derrick
No kidding! People always look at me funny when I get the salad from the fast food place and put the dressing on it, close it back up and shake away... but dang it, I want full-coverage!
- Lindsay
This thread just keeps getting better.
- Alex Scoble
It takes me 15 minutes to start eating in a "sit-down" restaurant because I have to evenly distribute the dressing without the benefit of a closed container, while also keeping it from coming off the plate/bowl onto the table, and getting all the greens at the bottom turned over so they get some dressing too... Much nicer if they'd just toss it for me before bringing it out!! What's the deal with this "on the side" business??
- Lindsay
And now I'm hungry for Olive Garden.
- Alex Scoble
I want a salad now, and I want it tossed. I realize this has greater implications coming from me, but I ain't scared of none of y'all. *teams up with Lindsay*
- Derrick
Oh and people have gotten it in to their heads that "on the side" is healthier because you use less dressing.
- Alex Scoble
Who uses less dressing? They just pour the whole cup on anyway!! LOL!
- Lindsay
Oh D, as though we ever thought you weren't a fan of having your salad tossed. *eyeroll*
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I always get dressing "on the side" (if I get dressing at all) then I dip my fork in the dressing before taking a bite of salad. I never use the whole cup of dressing.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
from iPhone
That's an interesting method, Bren. I've seen (and tried) dunking bites of salad into the cup but never dipping my fork... Never would have thought of that...
- Lindsay
I use the same method as Bren. works great, and I don't get salad that is soggy gross and drenched in dressing.
- holly
"Dont drown your food/in ketchup and mustard and goo/It's no fun to eat what you can't even see/so don't drown your food"
- Bren, Not Grinchy
from iPhone
This thread receives my coveted *WINNINGEST FF THREAD AWARD" for the day. Congrats to all the players. I have nothing to add, except... how I should just get a tan!?!
- Adrian
I need to hear audio of you saying "Puto".
- Kamath (नमः)
'scuse me while I shovel all this cold air. Oh, wait. =) (boy, I hope I don't suffer snow karma later.)
- Andrew C
Hush, Andrew. We're supposed to get "wintry precipitation" later this week.
- cecily
It's just behind that clump of trees on the right, Kamath.
- cecily
LOL, that's a great picture. However we have separate overpasses for wildlife through that area, so they shouldn't be using the roads. Have to report them.
- Kenton
Are they on the road? I thought they were on a special bridge just for wildlife to keep them from getting hit by traffic.
- cecily
We do have them, but that isn't one of them. Those are either on the road or the railway tracks. The animal only ones are basically tunnels for traffic with soil, trees etc built over top for the animals to travel.
- Kenton
They're lawless. Blatantly ignoring the signs and walking where they damned well please. Renegades, I tell you.
- cecily
It's been a while since I've seen Sam Rubin, but he never impressed me as a grumpy old curmudgeon. Regardless, seems that Perez got both barrels because of Perez, not because Sam's old.
- FF's Bubba of Arizona
I wasn't saying it was *because* he's old. I've seen Rubin maybe 20 times in the last 3 or 4 years go off on people. He's certainly got cattier in the mid-90s and he doesn't suffer fools or hacks. That's all.
- Admiral Anika
Sam's just hungry after losing all that weight. Now he has attitude and a tiny bit of self-confidence. And that's a dangerous thing.
- Morgan Haley
We all face forward. cubicles are right next to each other. total room is about 35' x 25', not including bosses offices in back. The bosses have windows with venetian blinds, which they use to their advantage. cubicle walls are 45" high. Fun stuff.
yep. that's totally me. but i don't have to wear a tie anymore. customers kept getting pissed off that we were wearing ties and they weren't. made them look bad. and i'm all about keeping customers happy.
- Morgan Haley
Lis, are we still on for Light FM tomorrow night at Pershing Square? Just heard that Obi Best will be playing, too! Everyone else should come too. Skating fun, good music, good times. http://www.laparks.org/pershin...
YES! Are we going to freeze? Where did you hear Obi Best is playing? Where are the musicians going to be? How much is it? OMG SO EXCITED. I need gloves.
- Lis Miller
*eavesdrops and makes plans for tomorrow night....*
- Morgan Haley
Songkick sent me a notification yesterday. Doesn't show on their MySpace, though - hopefully just because it's a last-minute thing. They do know each other, though. As far as where they are going to be, um, when I saw Great Northern there they didn't have the ice rink up, but they were kind of to the right side of that picture, at the edge of the central courtyard where it looks like the rink is now. So there, maybe? I need gloves, too. And a coat. And long underwear.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Hee. I'm thinking a vest over a warm fleece over a t-shirt over a thermal will do. But scarf and gloves will have to be purchased. And I have comfy fleece sweats but I don't know if that would be better than jeans. Army Navy's playing tonight at Spaceland, but there're like five bands playing and I only like them and the headliner. Blah.
- Lis Miller
Really? I didn't know they were playing tonight. Weird. But I don't feel like going tonight anyway.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Turns out Obi Best is playing next week, not this week. Might hafta go again! Oh, and you asked about cost, I think it's like $8 total - $6 entrance and $2 skate rental.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Friendfeeders: Who's a good domain registrar that has an email forwarding (MX) service that's a la carte (*not* bundled with a full-blown web hosting package)?
I use DynDNS for MX Backup (I run my own mail server, but just in case it goes down...used to be on my DSL line). I THINK they have a mail forwarding service as well. I've always liked their services...easy to use and reliable. And IIRC, you can buy pretty much anything a la carte.
- Ken Kennedy
i know DynDNS is good (an old childhood friend is one of their lawyers) but i've been using eNom for years now (reseller account where you have to put in like $100 initially, but can then just let that be your renewal money down the road) - i've yet to use the reseller part of my account, but their prices are fair (from what i can tell) and they do offer it all if you want it
- Chris Heath
Gina Trapani did the legwork last February to find an alternative to GoDaddy http://ginatrapani.org/spun... Based on that data, I moved a bunch of domains over to Namecheap.com--who say they offer free email forwarding--but I handle my own DNS so I haven't used that part of the service...
- Ken Sheppardson
... The transfer process wasn't as smooth as it could've been (had to have their CS folks kick things a couple times), but I don't expect a personal account rep or anything like it from a service with "cheap" in their name. Since the move, I haven't noticed any problems.
- Ken Sheppardson
yeah, forgot about that ken... thanks for the reminder
- Chris Heath
Thank you, gentlemen, this gives me several good options.
- Micah Wittman
I just reg'd a domain with namecheap.com - comes with free email forwarding! All for under 9 bucks. So far, so good :)
- Micah Wittman
Micah, just saw your post. Yes, I have our NP using Namecheap. And yes, like Todd says you could go with Google (Apps) we use that as well. The MX service works well and use Gapps as our email service
- Melanie Reed
Oooh, I see. Not domain registration, but point the MX record for email service. But that only works for google apps which is $50/yr or something, right?
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, unless you qualify for grant, ie, educational, etc.
- Melanie Reed
Todd, Melanie - thank you! Me <=== *facepalm* How did I not know they offered a free version.
- Micah Wittman
You're welcome and hope it works for you!
- Melanie Reed
I find it interesting that this is the second time on friendfeed in the past month or two that someone did not know that google apps for your domain are free for under 10 users
- Chris Heath
I play at work .. always ... life is too serious ... so when were not at a scene , we laugh , tell jokes .. watch tv .. internet ,, etc etc
- johnpiercy
We really don't either. My coworkers don't share my sense of humour. :( So I "play" by myself, coming on FF during lunch haha.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
from fftogo
I IM back and forth with my boss. We share a sense of humor.
- ωαřмaiden, MFA'd poet
I worked in a kitchen.........food fight of course............ only kidding .but I did have a great crew and most of the time we got along and had a few good laughs.....
- VAL D.
we call each other names and talk smack about other division's performance. and we steal office supplies. and we spend time talking to people on websites. and that's all.
- Morgan Haley
"A community of ‘candid’ photographers of men in public situations (all of whom have paid for their accounts in good faith) has been displaced and silenced on photo-sharing site Flickr in less than a fortnight. Four prominent photostreams as well as countless photos vanished from July 6th 2009 to July 13th 2009 without warning or right to appeal. At least one site had over a million hits in less than a year. Flickr has stubbornly refused to give a reason for its recent axe-grinding mission against these sites, but one user was given the reason ‘voyeur content’ after more than 8 days of asking for a reason yet that particular site contained pictures of men in public which is legal. Flickr has refused to expand on the reason it gave, but cited its ambiguous and open-ended ‘Don’t be creepy’ clause in its Terms of Service asjustification for terminating at least one photostream. Flickr has also silenced debate about the issue on its Help Forum. When confronted with whether or nor the...
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- Thomas Hawk
Good! Flickr is out of control. They should not be allowed to delete a paying customer's photo or photostream without notifying the customer of the "problem" and giving them a chance to correct/explain the situation. It's just bad business. Flickr is a great site, but the negatives are slowly chipping away at the positives.
- Rob LaRosa
Yeah, Flickr is pretty out of control. I think I'll be letting my membership expire and using only Pbase from now on.
- Todd Walker
Wow. How do I move all of my photos from flickr? I suppose I'll have to find somewhere new to put them.
- joey
I think it sort of sucks that I post a link to blog specifically about account deletions to a Flickr Help forum thread specifically account deletions and get banned from the public forum. The Flickr is Fascist blog is not mine, I was merely reporting on it.
- Thomas Hawk
Looks like it's time to abandon Flickr to Mussolini. And then kick it in the head.
- James (!?)
Uh oh. You've been put on the naughty step.
- Simon Wicks
Seems like the more we rely on web services the more of our rights we inadvertently give up. With web services being bought, sold, discontinued, or the arbitrary rules that they invoke, we are more and more at the mercy of whim of the site owner. It seems like it is time for some sort of universal user bill of rights that defines a minimum level of service we should expect and defines guidelines for disputes between users and service providers.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Well Thomas, as the CEO of a competitor to Flickr, it was only a matter of time before they tired of your "crusades" and troublemaking. (regardless of how worthwhile they are, and they are)
- Robert Kenney
I have kept my photos on Flickr, because that is where my family goes to, but I also have them on Zooomr, really not happy with Flickr
- Kim Landwehr
This is clearly a signal that Flickr is on the move. To be spun-off, sold, etc. As part of preparations for this, they have been given a mandate to clean-up the site of "less desirable" content to make it more marketable to a buyer.
- Robert Kenney
What are the best alternatives to Flickr?
- Johnny
Johnny, that depends on what you want from the site. If you want a community, then Flickr is probably the best. If you just want a place to host your photos or sell your work. there are plenty of other options. Here are several that come to mind. Zooomr, Smugmug, Picassa, Snapfish.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Robert Kenney: Thomas has been a critic of flickr, but he's also an advocate and user of flickr, in addition to being a competitor. The photo sharing biz is funny that way.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
i also don't like the fact that Flickr staff refers to me as "abusive" before kicking me out of the forum. My criticism has always been respectful. Simply because someone criticizes you does not make them "abusive" that's such a loaded almost libelous term. I resent that Flickr would call me abusive and then lock me out of the forum where I can't defend myself against that accusation.
- Thomas Hawk
Flickr is not a democracy, as they remind all of us again and again.
- Robert Kenney
Robert, but users should be able to expect a certain level of civility and recourse that you expect, (and is often required by law) when doing business with a brick and mortar establishment.
- Jeff P. Henderson
the anti flickr blog by the way has moved and I honestly have absolutely zero to do with this new anti flickr blog. I was simply reporting on it after the authors of the blog (who I do not know who they are) pointed it out to me. http://saynotoflickr.blogspot.com
- Thomas Hawk
I've been arguing against arbitrary account deletions and censorship there pretty passionately for a while. Especially lately as the account deletions seem to have escalated (and especially anything associated with or male gay related). I suppose they don't like being criticized for their deletion decisions, but personally I think labeling me as "abusive" for it and censoring me is yet another bad tact for them to take.
- Thomas Hawk
don't like flickr's problems? put your pix somewhere else. It's a website, not a national government; it's not fascist.
- Chieze Okoye
Most of the time those being deleted have no platform to object and so they turn to the only public avenue that they know the help forum. I like sticking up for the little guy, especially when he/she's in the right. It is frustrating though feeling like you are banging your head against the wall with Flickr who just seem frankly not to care one bit about the criticism or even ever address their censorship choosing to simply lock any thread objecting to it.
- Thomas Hawk
no, Chieze, it's not just a "website," any more than FriendFeed is just a "website." It's a community. That's always been what's made it special. It's just too bad that those overseeing the community don't feel that they need to have respect for it.
- Thomas Hawk
My contention is that Friendfeed *is* just a website, though. It's kinda nice when they get stuff right, and kinda bad when they get stuff wrong, but at the end of the day, it's just a tool. Is your tool breaking or acting up? Try to fix it within your capacity (writing blogs sometimes works when you're not part of the development itself, but bandying about hyperbole like calling a website fascist usually doesn't) or just move to the next tool that will work reliably the way you want.
- Chieze Okoye
There's a huge audience that you only reach through Flickr. There's no "next tool" to reach that many.
- Bruce Lewis
Chieze, I didn't call Flickr fascist. I simply reported on the fact that *somebody else* started a blog called that. I pretty much report on everything that's related to flickr that I come across. I'm not sure why I should have been banned simply for reporting on it. We'll have to disagree on both Flickr and FriendFeed merely being "websites." I hold to my contention that they are far, far, more than just "websites," that they are very significant hubs for communities, both of them in fact.
- Thomas Hawk
The thing that bugs me most about the way Flickr deals with things is that they delete and/or block, giving the accused no avenue for recourse. If they want to accuse me of having photos on the site that aren't mine, that's fine, but don't take down the evidence. They should have to leave the pics up there and prove to me that they are right. How could I do that after my pictures have...
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- Kenton
Oh, Thomas, I realize that you weren't calling it fascist, I didn't mean to make it seem like I was conflating you with this blog's behavior. Sorry about that. We will have to agree to disagree about the tool/website thing, I guess. I'm not an avid Flickr user, so I don't have that passion (but I am an avid Friendfeeder, at least by my personal standards, and I still think the way I do...
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- Chieze Okoye
Also, @Bruce, at this point, no one should be surprised with Flickr's behavior. Yes there's great audience, but it's not like there NO OTHER photo sharing site that has a community of people you can connect with. Continuing my tool metaphor, it would be like if you had the world's best hammer, but that hammer had poisonous spikes on the handle. For some people who need it or really want...
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- Chieze Okoye
Chieze, I'm well aware there are other photo sharing sites. I run one. But for photographers with a professional interest in getting noticed, Flickr is not optional.
- Bruce Lewis
Saying there are options to Flickr is like saying there are options to Windows. Sure, technically there are but not may people use them.
- ChiliMac
Yeah, Flickr isn't optional if you want to build a brand/reputation or just get noticed. Which sucks, because I'd have dumped my account there in protest a while ago if that wasn't the case. What's idiotic is that I can't even fathom a reason for these absurd censorship policies. How difficult can it be to implement an holding pen for violating accounts and a review process before they pull that delete trigger?
- Eric P
posted your blog post separately See-ming. http://friendfeed.com/thomash... Ironicly, posting about this "Flickr is Fascist" blog is what got me indefinitely banned from the Flickr Help forum. I think that they are pretty pissed off about it. At least pissed off enough to ban me over merely mentioning it publicly.
- Thomas Hawk
@TH Thanks! I was not going to post it until I realize recently that it is happening to a lot of my gay friends - including some who cannot post to my groups anymore because they are having the same problem, which is very sad.
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
As someone who has, quite unfairly, had their name featured several times in the Flickr is Fascist Blog, and who knows who the perpetrator is I can understand why Flickr would want to protect it’s users in this way. The person behind it not only has a malicious personal vendetta against certain people on the site but also promotes the censorship, deletion and suspension of other peoples...
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- david Martyn
Is this the LA in California? I gotta call shenanigans on that.
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
Well it's miserable here, too. I had to put on a long sleeve shirt, and now it's clouding over. Probably won't make 70 today. Brrrrr!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Hmm... Chicago in the winter? I tried that, once. Other than the pizza, not much to offer. Austin? Perhaps. Portland? Interesting. It's been a long time since I was there. Buffalo? Ah... see Chicago, minus the pizza. Although the Sabres could be playing...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
"Finally, the solution to a problem men have suffered with for generations. All men sweat in their groin area, and until now, there has not been a product specifically to relieve the wetness and the uncomfortable feeling of sweaty balls. Until now, introducing: * Aluminum Free * Paraben Free * Talc Free Fresh Balls. Use it as part of your daily grooming routine."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Great pic, AJ. I've never seen one quite that difficult before. What's even better is when you get one that you can't read, but some idiot hasn't tested the script in anything but Internet Explorer, so it fails miserably in Firefox and other browsers (apparently something causes some captchas to reload themselves when you hit the submit button in non-IE browsers, so you're always wrong).
- Curtiss Grymala
ça pourrait également être un noël pour un DAL...
- Emilie
Oh !!! Il faudrait que tu te trouves un gadget USB en céramique ou en silicone :D ! Bon bien vue que c'est bientôt les fêtes vais faire ma Wish aussi :D
- Chaussette
...but it doesn't make me any less disappointed and sad re: lala (http://www.lala.com/). I am trying to remain optimistic, but I strongly dislike both itunes as well as Apple's penchant for not embracing open ecosystems. Not to mention that the earlier glimmer of hope re: an Android app for lala (which I would gladly pay a bunch for) seems unlikely to be realized now :-(.
- Adam Lasnik
What I find frustrating in a more philosophical sense is the uncertainty. Will Apple simply pull the plug on lala, or just rebrand it? Will they keep the 10-cent stream option, or kill it? This, I must admit, no doubt echoes the concerns of many people who grow to love services that Google buys. At minimum, there's the understandable frustration for non-Googlers that comes with no longer being able to sign up for a service, and so on.
- Adam Lasnik
I concur with you Adam. I have recently checked out lala, but if it's integrated into iTunes then I'm not interested either. I do not like that application, or that Apple doesn't embrace open ecosystems either.
- Ian May
Don't forget the original creators of those startups -- if they were passionate in making something awesome in the first place, they're going to be passionate to defend it from being crippled from integration into "BigCorp." That doesn't always work, but you can usually bet that they'll be sadder because a change like that than you as a user will be. See *cough* this site, for example :-).
- John μller
would be interesting to understand what's the real philosopy behind open-ecosystems (as you state them). should they be open even in a context full of closed systems? should google don't care about the acquisition and still develop the ap for lala knowing that it will benefit even the closed ecosystems? if the google-app for lala brings advantage for the developer and for the host, and if the host takes advantage in hosting also open applications, it's still a closed environment?
- righini riprova
"If you think of a great movie that you really love in your life, chances are it has a really strong soundtrack" <-- her talking about the zither soundtrack and how powerful and unique it is. She may have a point with that. I may have to think about that some more.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I haven't seen this film for like ten years. Literally don't remember anything but the cuckoo clock speech, the shadows in the sewer, and the ending shot.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I haven't seen that film in a long time, but I did enjoy it the first time around. And the zither soundtrack stuck with me for several days.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I'll have to ask you bout this tomorrow, just DLed thhis..
- sofarsoShawn
Dang, I thought I'd missed it, but it was on at the same time here. Saw her intro, got sucked into the movie, but will have to finish it another time. I should know better than to start a movie at midnight.
- LogEx
Yeah, LogEx, they don't offset it for different time zones. That took me a while to figure out (and why I stopped specifying any times other than EST on the Film on TV posts). I watched the whole thing - I really had forgotten most of it. Cinematography whoa!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Okay, now The Picture of Dorian Gray is starting. I can NOT stay up for this. I will record it.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF