@Linda good luck with translations.. it's quite some text, we'll (try to) be patient, I promise!
- Meryn - Belgium
thanks meryn..it's a long article.. :p
- Linda (ITA)
Didn't Vero say at Festa, "Don't wash dirty laundry in public?" Sadly, in my opinion this is what she's doing here. I don't like the way she goes about this, making herself look like a victim who needed the comfort of angels. Sarah's interview in Visto last week had a completely different tone, a different line of approach to their relationship. Looking back at what went wrong, but looking ahead and confirming her feelings. And never once blaming Vero for anything.
- monica28
@monica about the Caesar comment if you actually look at it's biblical origins though that's not how it translates. Sorry to be pedantic but that translation has intigued me for a while. I beleive that that's how it might be used nowadays though
- poppy - GBR
Well, I'll wait for the complete article, then I'll look at it again.
- monica28
@linda thanks for taking on the translating, with a fever! and @meryn speedy transcriber, thanks as always ;)
- poppy - GBR
@Poppy Actually just repeating what I read in the subtitles. (Hope I remembered it correctly, I'll check at home.) But, of course, you could be right.
- monica28
@monica yes that's what the subtitles say
- poppy - GBR
@monica well what was she supposed to do? Sarah forced her hand in "washing the dirty laundry in public" when she made her 2 interviews
- Meryn - Belgium
Vero is not blaming Sarah she clearly said it was misunderstandings from both sides.
- salenger-Aus
@sale and it was a lot of those from both sides
- moni - Slo
@meryn agree. i don't actually think there's any guilty or innocent parties here, bits of both, all and none :)
- poppy - GBR
@Meryn I bet Sarah could tell a few tales herself. Only she doesn't.
- monica28
@Meryn Oh come on, that paragraph you just posted is all, "Boohoohoo, Sarah left me alone, and then she had the nerve to leave the shadow of a doubt that we were a couple, also, she was not there to explain show business to me, I shut up like a clam, I suffered, but my angels comforted me." Good lord, where's the violin? Okay, but now I'll wait till I've read the whole thing.
- monica28
@Poppy as always..we have UPS and DOWNS here all the time
- moni - Slo
@monica It's just a different side to the same story... Where Sarah went all "you have forgotten me but know that I love you", "in my heart there's only room for you", "not one moment where i didn't think of you"... Veronica just gave us the other side of the same story, of Sarah not replying to her calls and text messages but at the same time making insinuations on their relationship in magazines
- Meryn - Belgium
@moni @poppy the biggest roaler coaster EVER!!! we shuld start taking money LOL ;))
- Sunny Ville
Oh the drama! They are lesbians for sure.
- salenger-Aus
jeez you'd think zia flavia could have at least mediated a bit here between interviews. Provided some on the spot relationship counseling
- poppy - GBR
@ems I think they are still close. They probably had a good talk about the misunderstandings and will start to become close again.
- salenger-Aus
first page WE MUST SAY THAT THE DREAM DOESN'T EXIST Sarah, we must definitely explain that we are just friends and not a couple that loves also physically. the protagonist of GF answered so to Sarah Nile, who has declared to want a life together *a life like a couple with her*. I believe that the period of we are so but we dont say that is gone. Melancholy, love declarations on own facebook profile (and so, theoretically without doubt), postcards never written to her love, but sweared in a newspaper, an interview with the heart open (with a suggest of cohabitation) published by Visto last week and then comments on blogs, fan pages, international sites. So, at the beginning of the new tv season, Sarah Nile has make people to talk about her everywhere. And in her declarations, never miss the name of Veronica CIardi, the ex flatmate of GF with which she shares a lovely friendship that is became a dream for many and a nightmare (or better, just a bluff) for many others. But Veronica never talked. No one interview, no one line on her fb account to communicate her feelings, her emotional status, no one reaction ^di pancia^ or excuse as she usually does. This silence is not a passional behiaviour like she is, so we went to Riccione to understand her reactions to last Sarah's declarations. Riccione is her secret place in which, with a Red Bull and a piadina, a selection of biscuits and games which she prepares with happyness for the child of her friend who is coming, she welcomes us. She's tanned, really skinny. She's full of emotions, as usually. <Did not I react to Sarah's interview, you said? It's not true. When I read that she said that I abandonded her, this time I have had a behiaviour of adult. I didn't scream against the world, I didn't close in myself but I asked directly to her. And she explain that she didn't say those things, it's a fault of newspaper. So, now is ok as before>.
- Linda (ITA)
Does Vero not live in Milan anymore?
- salenger-Aus
@sal i think too but all these months of misunderstanding have been damage
- ems - fra
@salenger she's been living in Riccione in the summer months
- Meryn - Belgium
@ems yeah, I don't think they will ever be girlfriends, but I would like to to see them be close friends.
- salenger-Aus
@Brooke Because it doesn't matter maybe? So now people aren't allowed to live in the same area as their ex anymore? I mean.. just saying :p
- Meryn - Belgium
Speaking of exes why do these two blindingly beautiful girls go for the ugliest guys?
- salenger-Aus
OK going to hairdresses now Ciao see you all later
- moni - Slo
Can you imagine these two living together and one of them brings a date home. Oh man! The head slaps ,the glaring eyes and pouty lips flying all over the place.
- salenger-Aus
D: What does it's ok as before mean? You talk about friendship and she calls you love. She said she wants to share her everyday life with you and she offers her keys. V: I also call her love, because she's my love as I am hers, but it doesn't mean that we are together as a couple. Why does she say that? Have readers understand that? I thought that this period of confusione, about <I am this but I dont want to say> was already gone. I don't believe that I still must answer to the same question <Are you a gay couple?> No, we are not. It's not necessary to love each other. Also Sarah, that usually has never done any excuse, this time has helped me and on her facebook fan page she wrote that we are not together, we are never been a couple. But also this declaration has not been enough. D: I think that probably is the meaning of love that makes confusion. I guess that people usually associate declarations as I love you with the couple's concept, whatever it is, secret, gay or etero. And if you add at those two words the wish to live together, as Sarah has declared on Visto, it's normal that it makes confusion. To fix it or to increase it, do you will go to live together? V: it would be beautiful and when she asked me I felt emotioned so much. We talked lots about that thing but I didn't asnwer, because I don't know if I will live in Milan. I used to move often and I lived in different cities, but I don't adapt myself easily to this changes. Of course, it should be beautiful to live together because we go different jobs during the morning, so we could meet at the evening. We firm up our relationship sharing our life everyday, as also Sarah said. But please, write friendship, because we can start with misunderstandings again. D: Is a misundestanding also the fact that on 29 of July, during the party that dreamers have made for you, something set off between you and Sarah? And is it also a misunderstanding then you took a refuge, protected by her family, start firmin up...
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- Linda (ITA)
@moni see you later @dariasn Not me lol
- ems - fra
D: And so did you need a party (some definited it a sort of marriage) organized by the same people who believe in you as a couple, to crumble this wall? V: No, but I needed to find Sarah's eyes again without the spotlight, to see her smile and her looks to me and not to a camera or something else. On 29 we talked, we felt comfortable and we came back as before, that is really close friends..and in love each other, but everyone with a personal life. I am her island, a place that there is and there will be always, where she can come in every moment. Until I will not die, Sarah will be never alone, but at the same time I'll never invade her private life, I will not discuss her choices, even if that can make me to feel sorry (she means, we can undestand that, the Sarah's choice to keep a really close relationship with her ex boyfriend Pierluigi. *i can't read because of the sign* and it she knows). The island is not a material concept, but much more concret and eclatant then a couple of keys ready for me, but it's something too private that it's better if I don't tell you. It belongs to Veronica and Sarah, not to a reality. D: What about the famous Sogno? Is it finished? V: What do you mean with Sogno? Are we a couple? Do we love also physically and, even if we don't meet publicly, do we meet secretly? That cannot we declare that we are a couple because our country is not ready to accept a lesbian love? This dream is not finished.. it's never been existed. Can you write it with capital in the newspaper as also in internet? this is the last time that I would like to hear this question, I don't know how to be more clear. The Dream of a gay couple, or bisexual, has never been the dream of sarah and veronica. I know that I will attract the accuses of many people again and I know that I will break the hope of others, but also know that who loves me really and knows me, will proud of me, of my clearness with which I always answered to this question. I am really flattered...
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- Linda (ITA)
sorry, I probably made a lot of mistakes but I didn't read what I've translated!!
- Linda (ITA)
@Linda thank you sooooooo much for this! Now we need a scan without that "save the sarah" text to read what was said about Sarah & Pigi :p
- Meryn - Belgium
I will never do something as tatoo that not belongs to me
- Linda (ITA)
@Linda I don't have a real issue with people copying the tattoo she did for her fans.. she even encouraged them to get the same one in the beginning... (she shouldn't have, I know), but people copying the tattoo she did for her brother, that's a bit crazier imo... http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...
- Meryn - Belgium
@linda ditto it's something personal
- Dariasn
from Android
@linda I am joking :)) I would never do this kind of thing. I agree with you it's a personal thing
- ems - fra
I don't think Sarah will last long there neither.
- salenger-Aus
Don't think so either.. But now I'm even more interested in what Vero will say in her Diversamente Etero interview which she still has to do afaik
- Meryn - Belgium
Thought Sarah had done hers but Vero still had to do it, could be wrong
- Meryn - Belgium
@meryn when is her interview? I think in October but i'm not sure
- ems - fra
@dariasn...weird right...for me it was a tad bit stressful to be involved so much in their relationship. :)..but It was good while it lasted though..the 10% that we knew.
- Lampa-Mex
@linda...are you feeling better??..Hope so!
- Lampa-Mex
lampa yes.. finally :) I hope it will continue also this evening
- Linda (ITA)
it's a nice honest interview. clearly lots of misunderstandings and miscommunication and pressure. the only thing that bugs me a bit is that i think what they had in GF WAS like a couple and did have a physical element and they were attracted to each other, and that's what all of this is borne out of - that never get's acknowledged. In terms of people thinking they're a couple now I think that's because Sarah actually said that word even if she didn't mean it like that - and that's kinda obvious. Also got the impression that Flavia doesn't like Sarah ....
- poppy - GBR
hey @linda a big thank you for a long translation ;*
- nile - GBR
@alt..it seems they were having NO communication al all...according to Vero
- Lampa-Mex
@ems jamais never tu remets ces coeurs avec flavia lol
- Dariasn
from Android
Did Vero said that Sarah didn't reply to her calls and texts???
- Lampa-Mex
2 stubborn girls with different ideas of what a relationship is and niether asking for what they wanted or needed. Never a good recipe
- altbigd
@Yes Lampa she did - but remember Sarah also said that when she met the girls fro dinner.
- altbigd
its so sad the way things turned out. after GF i thought they would be great mates, spent time together, chatting away always, sharing things but............seems to me hardly at all.
- nile - GBR
how did things come to an HALT after GF? did they jjust come out, not spent time together - did things just fade?
- nile - GBR
@nile..I guess they will live only with the memories from inside the house....what happened in there is what makes them say that they will be in eachother lives tutta la vita.
- Lampa-Mex
@Lampa yes -When Sarah was with the girls (some girl recounted this on FB) they tried to call Vero and Sarah said yeah she doesn't pick up and doesn't call her for a few hours
- altbigd
@lampa yes vero said sarah didn't reply to her calls
- ems - fra
So Vero said they both talked about how dark of time it was for both of them and it was no ones fault but to me for Veronica that can not be repaired.
- altbigd
I'm like that I never answer the phone and I will finally call you back days later.
- salenger-Aus
i just cant believe how things can come to a halt when they left the GF, after everything they went through together well its so sad
- nile - GBR
@Alt That's what I think as well.. it seems as if Sarah would welcome the chance to start over again, but for Vero it may be too little too late
- Meryn - Belgium
seemed to me Festa was really badly needed for them both as it seemed to break down the wall they had built for 8 months?
- nile - GBR
@lampa yes i guess the madness surrounding them in the beginning didnt help.
- nile - GBR
What suprises me is they don't ever say that Sarah said she was IN Love with You - not loves you. They just peretend that was not part of it. Maybe that we will just assume she said Love like a good friend
- altbigd
so is there much missing from the bit about Pigi? or just a sentence or two?
- poppy - GBR
Well I think it is just unfortunate for both of them. I can't imagine beign in a house like they were and having feelings for someone - and always wondering whether they were acting or it was real. I know they have both expressed fears like this (either in or outside of the houes).
- altbigd
they had a few days together after festa right? sarah was vvery happy that week. i would assume thats cos things r good again with them after a difficult patch?
- nile - GBR
They need to go to one of those shows where they ask people questions while attached to a poligraph machine...Vero are you a patata...NO...brrrrrrrrr..wrong answer.
- Lampa-Mex
@linda...moni, karo, dariasn, meryn, coco, ems, shane, kathy, ivana, sab, dawn, terri, livia...and a few others.
- Lampa-Mex
@lampa so what do u think of the article? im sad not cos they r not together but the way things were for them since GF. seems it come to an halt and they had a rough patch, start to get to know each other again. lately they seemed to get on better and then festa was just what they badly needed. i guess they were happy to spend time together again after festa to reconnect their friendship they had in GF
- nile - GBR
@linda..I think they want to go and see Sarah at a shooping center she is going to have an apperance at.
- Lampa-Mex
@nile...you know..I think they couldn't make it work (for whatever reasons)outside the house
- Lampa-Mex
@nile..it sucks cause to be honest I did believe in Il sogno...and I wonder if how Veros friend reacted to Sarah that they knew stuff that of course we didnt...cause If things were good between them they would have supported them...that's my thinking at this moment.
- Lampa-Mex
@lampa if it wasnt for all the madness surrounding them in the beginning things may be different but then the situation in the GF isnt the same as outside
- nile - GBR
@lampa to be honest ive always wanted people who bothered them continously just to leave them alone to rediscover each other alone but sadly it wasnt to be
- nile - GBR
@nile..right is not the same...and I think that Vero still has a way of thinking of herself as a regular person not a celebrity and Sarah views herself as a famous person...maybe they realized that they are after all pretty different...it sucks cause they make a great couple...and I really will be kind of Sad when and if we see them with a new partner.
- Lampa-Mex
oh, I can't wait to see ciardini's faces when veronica will find somebody..
- Linda (ITA)