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eldarmurtazin: Вау, в начале декабря выйдет прошивка на Satio которая решит "временные трудности" с перезагрузкой устройства. Аплодирую. - http://twitter.com/eldarmu...
keep forget gr translates for me :)
- Anthony Farrior
Search on for clues, answers in Fort Hood rampage - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
twitter was all over this too as a means of communication
- Anthony Farrior
Slacker Released on Android - http://www.intomobile.com/2009...
<3 Slacker!!!
- Anthony Farrior
It's funny, I joined friendfeed just to connect further with my brother...I got that for a time, but in a larger sense I connected with a community and discovered so many interesting people and so many noteworthy stories. Despite what I've written before, to Paul Bucheit and the rest of the friendfeed team, I will forever be grateful for the...
Tina-Marie Simba-Masozera, Thomas Power, Andy Bakun and 95 other people liked this
service that made this possible.
- Alex Scoble
cheers, again.
- Bren, Photophobe
Cheers to you too, Bren...twice!
- Alex Scoble
I'm tyring to like , like , like many times....lol...Alex...wuvs ya
- Bill Heslin
LOL, you guys are the best.
- Alex Scoble
Amen, Alex. I have come to know more people through FF than I ever could have imagined. It may not be as geeky as it was when I first joined, but the community has grown & improved. Kudos to all of you (devs & users) for giving me that. :)
- JA Castillo
Beautifully said, Alex! :)
- directeur
Well said but ... don't cue the fat lady yet!
- AJ Kohn
AJ, I think you have me confused with another Scoble. :) I'm not calling anything over here. :) Just giving thanks.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, are you on google wave? I have one more...
- Anthony Farrior
oh, scratch that, i have 10 invites left...
- Anthony Farrior
That's nice, Alex.
- Anne Bouey
You are my favorite Scoble by far! (Sorry, Robert) ;)
- Jorge Escobar
Hmmm.. sounds like the speech that is said before the music is queued up and the lovely ladies come from stage right to escort you off. But Then again.. thanks are not said enough in life so say it often. ;)
- CW™
Yes and yes to everything.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
from iPhone
Long live Friendfeed!!! But even better,long live the relationships....
- Steve
werd!
- imabonehead
Love you! even don't know you! love cool people!
- Farhad Jafari
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Well said, Alex.
- Martha
I don't know if that applies to me but the love extends to you too Alex :)
- Holden Page
Couldn't agree more .. FF still rocks
- Charlie Anzman
FF is the Jewel in the Center of the Internet
- Robert Higgins
Comcast announces new bandwidth throttling scheme - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
Oh no!
- Anthony Farrior
Shit!
- Adrian Eden
from FreshFeed
adrianeden yeah it just kicks you off for like 15 minutes and then your'e ok. They've been doing that to me...
- Anthony Farrior
from IM
Black Friday deals for Kmart and Sears revealed - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
AFRICAN AMERICAN FRIDAY!
- Matthew DeVries
lol.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
Dude!
- Craig Eddy
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- Anthony Farrior
I don't get why Twitter's home page can't be real time, just like Twitter's widgets on http://scobleizer.com that page updates automatically - http://twitter.com/Scoblei...
I agree with this...
- Anthony Farrior
Has Research In Motion’s BlackBerry Lost Its Edge? - http://tweetmeme.com/story...
@solacetech no way, us corporate-types still have/use Blackberry
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
yeah, I'm loving my work issued curve too
- Anthony Farrior
@solacetech I wouldn't say I LOVE my curve, but I love the cost of it — $0.00
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
i haven't had a bb since the nextel days so i do enjoy the speed. looking for apps now. which do you use?
- Anthony Farrior
Veronica Belmont Goes Blonde? - http://myphillynetwork.com/veronic...
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I wouldn't have said that was blonde exactly. But certainly lighter.
- Kenton
That's really blonde compared to the cool black she had before :)
- Anthony Farrior
Study: Playing Games Hurts Income, By The Minute [Research] - http://kotaku.com/5396033...
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"My work confirms that, in general, the more income a person has, the more time they spent playing video games" - doesn't this contradict the hypothesis?
- Mike Chelen
Not really b/c the more money one has the bigger the gaming rig is and the more time they spend playing it. Those with less money play less and spend more time spending what they don't have ,lol
- Anthony Farrior
If anyone knows what the heck they are doing when it comes to encoding video for the web, holla! I need help. H.264 and Adobe Media Encoder are kicking my rear.
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Have you tried ffmpeg, Eric?
- directeur
ffmpeg is great but sometimes it's best to let the servers do the job for you. Vimeo makes good video
- Anthony Farrior
Whatever encoder Adobe uses is teh suck. We use Premiere for our video, but the H.264 MP4 looks way worse than our Windows Media version. Plus, our low res MP4 has a green line at the bottom of the video. Freakin program is driving me crazy.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I need to try a different program, but that means setting up a multi-step process. It already takes all night to get all of our encoding done. Then I'd have to run some sort of batch to do a conversion from Adobe to x format to ffmpeg or whatever I might use. I really need to get this done by the next morning.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
handbrake is fast
- Anthony Farrior
and handbrake does batching
- Anthony Farrior
What format should I export to first before pushing in through another encoder program?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Are you trying to do a Leo Laporte thing? Let me know so I can promo!!!
- Anthony Farrior
on premiere? oh...what's the rawest format it has? Try to not use compression until the end
- Anthony Farrior
Leo's all live right? No, we are doing plenty of post-production. We are not setup for live streaming (bandwidth being one of our issues). So it's recorded on Friday and then released on Monday. We are at cstechcast.mevio.com for video until we get our new site up. Sean Loyless has a great site for us, we are just working our the last few implementation bugs. Then all will be at cstechcast.com.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'll have to look. The studio PC is at the office. So, go with an AVI type raw format and avoid AME altogether? No hope? The one thing AME gives you is an easy way to get it encoding and then leaving it alone.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
that's cool congrats for taking the leap to video. If you can export to something huge (720 res or bigger) it will still look good when you run it thru something else
- Anthony Farrior
does it have mpeg2 ? that's pretty good too
- Anthony Farrior
Sure, it does. It has quite a few formats. It's like a swiss army knife. Could be just something I'm doing. We are doing some weird things to turn our SD source video to 16:9, so I have to make customized settings instead of using the presets.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
You said ame, did you mean WME b/c windows media encoder is very good also
- Anthony Farrior
that was the other question, are you using hd cameras or sd
- Anthony Farrior
No, Adobe Media Encoder. Referred to on the forums as AME.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
No, I'm using Canon XL1S cameras for our source video. These are SD cameras.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
ah yes adobe= $ my video jobs always gave me 1000% profit because I used open source and or free tools
- Anthony Farrior
Premiere is a very good editor. The export quality for H.264 is the missing link right now. What did you use?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
searching
- Anthony Farrior
it was a multi codec video decoder that also captured video and compressed it on the fly...still looking for it's name..
- Anthony Farrior
i must be telling my age b/c i can't find it but it was incredible with good effects... still looking http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Anthony Farrior
Eric, many encoders have difficulty working with compressed source, leading to longer processing times and lower quality. try keeping the original files and run all encoders off of that
- Mike Chelen
Nice clip!
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Well, the source is Adobe Premiere. Without exporting it into some format, it's still just a Premiere project. That's why getting Adobe Media Encoder to work correctly is the best option. I know there are plug ins for AME, but I am not so clued in to video production like that.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
btw for free video stream hosting check out ustream.tv, justin.tv, and stick.am
- Mike Chelen
thanx! I mastered all of the video and asked the client if they recorded at the highest quality but , honestly i don't think they knew what I meant
- Anthony Farrior
Eric: idk what is that internal format being used by Premiere, are there any compression options that might affect the output?
- Mike Chelen
Sure, we did uStream for a little while. Not what we are going for. We have a 3 camera setup plus multiple segments and it takes a good bit of editing to get the show presentable.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Eric: it might seem unlikely, yet some podcasts do enjoy substantial live viewers. often, these include many regular viewers, who will also watch & enjoy the final edited version. some examples include cranky geeks on mevio and hak5 on revision3
- Mike Chelen
Mike, there are internal settings that can affect final output. Not converting to square pixels for example, but I think we have flushed those out. It shouldn't be the case. Plus, if it were settings in the project, wouldn't the WMV file be poor as well? I think it's the H.264 encoder. There are quite a few different settings, but when I change them I only succeed in making a choppy, stuttering video.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Mike, I agree the live stream has potential, but it can't be done cheaply. It requires a really good video switcher and a live producer. We tried using a software product that I will not name to stream and control cameras and all it did was crash frequently. Plus, it made me $400 poorer. You need 10K to do it right with multi-cam.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
do Premiere and AME use the same H.264 encoder? if that is the only component causing troubles, then ffmpeg would be a great alternative if they are compatible
- Mike Chelen
Plus, I have T1 bandwidth. Not really enough to do streaming video justice.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
The encoding is all done by AME. Premiere does not do its own encoding.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I can't find it plus it was about eight years ago. Use ame to export raw and then encode with WME or Handbrake imo
- Anthony Farrior
I will give ffmpeg a try. It can't hurt to try, but it just adds another step in the workflow that already takes a while to complete. I'm hoping I can export out of AME a little quicker and kick off a thrid party encoder without much hassle.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'll look into Handbrake too. Thanks Anthony.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Sorry I'm getting rusty A/V wise ;) send me a link when you are done @solacetech
- Anthony Farrior
Btw the girl from X-play had the cleanest video podcast i EVER saw and it took her all night to dump and proccess, that's why she stopped doing it i think...I miss her
- Anthony Farrior
Eric: try the different file formats and codecs AME supports against the upload site you plan to use, probably the most recent codec that can be configured with the highest quality compression will let them make a nice final conversion
- Mike Chelen
there is nothing wrong with streaming only one cam live, though with 1.5mbps upload you could probably stream 3-4 :)
- Mike Chelen
Mike, although the Mevio servers covert our video to Flash format for web viewing, our source video that is uploaded is what you would receive on your iPod or Zune. That is why we make 3 versions. A high res iPod format, a low-res iPod format, and a Zune compatible format. If you look, some video shows have 5 or 6 video formats and file sizes/quality versions you can subscribe to.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Shouldn't all of those be en-capsuled? I think WME does that for multiformat streaming
- Anthony Farrior
have you tried Final Cut?
- Anthony Farrior
Mike, you make the arguments we were having a few months back. I agree, we want to get to live streaming at some point, but for now we are trying to get a consistent post-produced show off the ground. I'll let you in on the background of what's been happening the past couple of months trying to get this part of our delivery off the ground. Video is difficult and hard to master. I wish...
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- Eric @ CS Techcast
Final Cut Pro, that requires a Mac. And more money.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Eric: ok, the files are served directly after being uploaded, without additional conversion server side? the ipod ones that use H.264 right
- Mike Chelen
you are right sorry
- Anthony Farrior
Yes Mike. That's right.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I know most of the videocasters are using Final Cut, but it's just not an option for us. I'm sure it would be a little easier.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Anothony, on your en-capsuled comment, I'm not sure. Could be. I'd have to look it up.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Sean, you've used them for encoding only? How much usually?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Nevermind, it says $799. That's pretty pricey.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Eric: hehe, yeah sounds like a lot on the plate, good to hear its being given some thought. hopefully some of the technology and methods will keep improving to help lighten the load, it seems like you will be in a good position then once its viable
- Mike Chelen
I hope so. I just need everyone to tune in. We'll figure out the rest just like we had to do for the audio show.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Sean, although this particular product may be too expensive, I think the AVI export is looking to be a realistic option. Then take it into a specialized encoder. I'll try the free/cheap versions first. What about Quicktime Pro? Any experience there? I also have Nero who's converter does a good job taking my DVDs to H.264. Maybe I'll try that too. EDIT: I am talking SD. Source is miniDV format - Canon XL1S cameras. One direct to disk, one to a Firestor hard drive recorder, and one to tape.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
definitly export to avi with big and huge properties
- Anthony Farrior
thanx for making me reminisce too http://myphillynetwork.com/how-to-...
- Anthony Farrior
I do miss Webb Alert. That was a great little cast.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'm watching that video you linked to. See, there she's using a consumer camera. We could do that if we had a single camera show. But when you are trying to balance white and color with the various angles, you have to have real cameras with real adjustable settings. I really need a light meter. Of the dozen things we need that we are not getting :)
- Eric @ CS Techcast
oh wow, I see your point. Do you have a tricaster?
- Anthony Farrior
Tricaster? Nope. Ha! That's the 10K layout I referred to earlier. I'd love to have one. Can I win one?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I see your podcast is very business oriented (my apoligies for not subscribing, doing that now), I do run into the issues you talk about at work but I'm afraid to mention them on my blog
- Anthony Farrior
win a tricaster yeah, right after I win a nokia n900 ;D
- Anthony Farrior
Yes, we target IT professionals and what matters to them. We decided to not try to compete in the consumer tech space. Leo et al are doing a fine job there. We try to make business tech easy and fun.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
that's a smart niche, not many people there
- Anthony Farrior
"not many people there" A lot of ways to slice that comment ;)
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'm competitive I'm sorry but trust me you have a full head of steam with sponsors and all...do you have a forum? that would help too
- Anthony Farrior
We will be debuting a new web site VERY soon based on WordPress with all kinds of social tie ins including DISCUS and FriendFeed, of course. We have alot of blogging we do for other sites that we want to integrate into CS Techcast. We also want to expand with smaller segments during the week. It's crazy, but we have a green screen we're going to setup in the corner of our studio and see what trouble we can get into there. Maybe a tech puppet show lol.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'd watch it...
- Anthony Farrior
Josh can do voices. That's why I brought it up. I'm thinking Dr. Science meets puppets doing Q&A with a British accent. You know, I'm not sure how we get anything done.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
atleast you are having fun. I'm surrounded by "oh I can do that too" but no one is doing it and no one wants to help me do it...*sigh*
- Anthony Farrior
I found a link that is interesting for those helping me out tonight. This may be the critical question: How can a $700 Adobe product produce a video worse that the free ffmpeg program? Link here: http://www.videohelp.com/forum.... Although the situation is slightly different, the video I see looks familiar.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Anthony, I hear you. Everyone talks a good game, but they have to show! That's the only difference.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
wow that's insane that adobe can't convert to it's own flv format properly...opensource wins again!
- Anthony Farrior
I just don't get it, but I'm not the only one complaining about AME in the Adobe forums.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
it looks like the mp3 gone wild or the divX to Xvid or the Theora cases...Sometimes the guy doing it for free does it better than the guy getting paid to do it but with stricter rules
- Anthony Farrior
Yep, but I'm not happy. Adobe is supposed to have a nice, integrated workflow, and it would be if I could get decent encoding quality. I'm looking at other Mevio shows like Cali Lewis' GeekBrief show and I set Adobe to use the same Kbps, etc as she is using and mine looks like crap.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
yeah, not a fan of geekbrief and i think they only use one cam...checking video quality now...
- Anthony Farrior
One thing I do like is that ffmpeg is command line. I can drop it to one of my new servers and let it crank on a quad core while I can free up the workstation for more "work".
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'm sure they are HD as well, which is something I can't do much about.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I should mention there a 3 different sites on Mevio with our video. WMV looks soft but decent, but the ipod (h.264 versions) are the troublesome ones.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
yeah i'm looking at geekbrief now and I'm sure it started and ended in 16:9...Ultimately though your content will save you, SD is enough to get you started...
- Anthony Farrior
I agree, content is king, but we are also perfectionists. Or OCD is a more accurate description.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
ipod version chokes and freezes...strange
- Anthony Farrior
Really? Gah!
- Eric @ CS Techcast
drops frames and audio sync issues
- Anthony Farrior
Yep, *headdesk*
- Eric @ CS Techcast
the high res is awesome...that's backwards right?
- Anthony Farrior
The high-res is done at 512K and the low res at 256K if you are referring to mine or are you still looking at Geekbrief?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
yours
- Anthony Farrior
Back when I encoded my own, I used Flash Media Encoder and use the On2 VP6 codec at around 700kbps. These days, I guess everyone uses h.264. Then used the free flash video player on my site. http://www.longtailvideo.com/players.... I also encoded an iPod compatible version and just used Quicktime Pro for compatibility sake.
- Rodfather
I've heard of just using Quicktime. Thinking about plunking down the $30 or so dollars for the pro version just to see how it works.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'm still confused...I'm on the latest ubuntu with the Chrome beta browser. Even hulu runs like water with my setup...Maybe the ipod version plays better on the ipod/mobile... checking with my nokia 5800 now
- Anthony Farrior
Are you playing the file direct from download or the Mevio web site player?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
right now the mevio player but i'm downloading the ipod version to my phone
- Anthony Farrior
The Mevio player is all flash conversion. I guess the Mevio servers choked on the video file I uploaded.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
oh that does happen and it burns me up after all the work that's done before uploading
- Anthony Farrior
I'm sure the file is just not "completely compatible". Why else would I get a green strip at the bottom of my video? And when I tried to use "iPod mode" from the AME settings it can't play in Quicktime. It really has a stuttering problem then.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
The file type that seems to have the easiest time with those flash server conversions is WMV in my experience.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Here was a typical post when I was encoding my own. http://phonyholmes.com/2006... It's a tough decision choosing a bitrate to go with. Too high and people with a slow connection will be buffering a lot. Too low, and there's too much compression artifacts. I'm not sure what version the Flash Media Encoder is at now.
- Rodfather
okay, i can hear but not see it... thats a nokia problem,no worries. will try the high res next
- Anthony Farrior
Well, the Adobe Media Encoder, which is what they make you use now, is at 4.1.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Thanks for all your help Anthony.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
no prob..it's at 82% download. I'm on the job now! I understand the effort it takes to make a good product. I was taught the hard way that presentation is about 75% percent of our success
- Anthony Farrior
darn... foiled by Nokia once again. Some videocasts work like digg nation and some don't, like around the horn...sorry
- Anthony Farrior
It's OK. I'll ping you later this week to try again. I'm going to try a different encoder.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I was using Sony Vegas as an editor and exported to WMV at a fairly high bitrate since it was basically my 'master'. For the higher quality flash streaming, I would encode to (i think) 480x270 at a high bitrate, then feed that into FME. Then render another WMV in Vegas at 320x240 and feed that file into Quicktime Pro. Taking, let's say a 1280x720 video and then encoding that to a lower resolution always came out crappy.
- Rodfather
Sounds good! @solacetech...everywhere lol
- Anthony Farrior
Actually, for feeding into Quicktime Pro, I might have encoded to a raw AVI.
- Rodfather
raw is always best until the last minute/step
- Anthony Farrior
I'm going to start with AVI and try ffmpeg tomorrow. Then I think I'll buy Quicktime and encode with that too. Then compare.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Cool. The thing about ffmpeg/handbrake is that it doesn't really use h.264. It uses the free x264 which may pose some compatibility issues. I could be wrong.
- Rodfather
I was just reading some people use TMPGEnc_Xpress also. Any thoughts on that one?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Some people seem to be down on QT pros speed, but it will surely be the most compatible with iPod. link: http://www.videohelp.com/forum...
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Ya QT Pro is fairly slow, but it always resulted in a good file.
- Rodfather
TMPGEnc ? that's an oldie but a goodie. if you can get it to work it's great too
- Anthony Farrior
I haven't used TMPGEnc in a long time. That was when encoding to mpeg2 for DVD :p
- Rodfather
@rodfather Exactly!
- Anthony Farrior
I looked and a the latest version is from August, so I guess H.264 encoding is the latest thing it can do. It uses NVidia chips or cell chips for accelerated encoding.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
That would be nice to experiment with. If it uses NVidia CUDA to use the graphics card to encode to h.264, it would render extremely fast.
- Rodfather
I FOUND IT!!! http://www.virtualdub.org/ this app made me a a/v H4ck3r
- Anthony Farrior
Hehe VirtualDub is awesome for processing
- Rodfather
i connected my vcr to my video card and used this to digitize all of my favorite movies. I used this to make that pencil filter on the video link way above
- Anthony Farrior
VirtualDub is sweet. The last time I used it was to try to correct handheld shake from using pocket camcorders. The deshaker plugin. Here's a cool list of plugins you can download for it. http://www.thedeemon.com/Virtual...
- Rodfather
always liked using virtualdub when on windows, another helpful gui might be vlc transcode option http://wiki.videolan.org/Transco...
- Mike Chelen
I'm a gamer and a home theater "enthusiast" and as such, neither friendfeed nor Twitter have much to offer me, however, there's so much more to life than just those pursuits. I feel so much more connected to the world by being here than I have pretty much anywhere else. #WhyImStaying
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Aye
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
from iPhone
cheers
- Bren, Photophobe
ditto
- Anthony Farrior
I'm a PC.
- Mo Kargas
I'm a FF as well.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I'm me. The most interesting man in the world.....and when i drink beer, I drink Dos Equis.
- Chris Greene
#TIWIS I made it a little easier to type :)
- Christopher Harley
Yep. I'm here to hang out. If I want to talk about just one subject, I'll go to a specific forum.
- Rodfather
game discussions in groups like http://friendfeed.com/friendf... and in various posts are of comparably high caliber to popular magazines or blogs
- Mike Chelen
NBA Live on the iPod/iPhone - Really? - http://myphillynetwork.com/nba-liv...
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Whoa awesome!
- Rodfather
yeah...makes me almost think about the iPhone
- Anthony Farrior
The controls look a bit wonky, but it looks nice.
- Rodfather
is gmail down?
Not down here, but my iGoogle gmail gadget has stopped working.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
I use the webpage and it's hanging in chrome
- Anthony Farrior
but it works in ie6...that's really strange
- Anthony Farrior
oh, chrome's first tab hangs.gmail isn't down...sorry
- Anthony Farrior
I'm in chrome dev on linux, still seems ok
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
chrome on linux? I neeeeed that
- Anthony Farrior
Go here and scroll down http://dev.chromium.org/getting...
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Thank you SOOOOOOO much!
- Anthony Farrior
It kicks as much ass as expected, which was a pleasant surprise after the debacle that was Crossover Chromium.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
can't wait to get home now, oh no, today's gonna drag from here on out...
- Anthony Farrior
chrome on linux works like a dream. Thanx Slippy!
- Anthony Farrior
Any time :-)
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
The Sony Ericsson Android XPERIA X10 is almost official - http://myphillynetwork.com/the-son...
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Sony built Android phone with Snapdragon and 8MP camera? Drool.
- Rodfather
oh yeah, you know Sony don't play...
- Anthony Farrior
Sibbotery by Sibbotery on Etsy - http://www.etsy.com/shop...
wow
- Anthony Farrior
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Companies are going to love Windows 7 !!! | My Philly Network - http://myphillynetwork.com/compani...
"Companies are going to love Windows 7 !!!"
- Anthony Farrior
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Is Nokia the new Microsoft? | My Philly Network - http://myphillynetwork.com/is-noki...
"Just some points about Nokia that has been really bothering me. Click the link, listen and tell me if you agree…"
- Anthony Farrior
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Microsoft canceled silverlight????
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Wha??
- Internet's Tad
Huh? I think they're canceling the streaming service, not the software itself.
- Jennifer Dittrich
ohhh
- Anthony Farrior
to be exact, MSFT is canceling the streaming service which will be replaced by a new coming service which will run on Windows Azure
- Vincent RITHNER
double ohhhhh
- Anthony Farrior
how do you cancel something you never really supported?
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
huh?
- mikepk
The Olympic silverlight stream was successful...sorta. Maybe they know something we don't...
- Anthony Farrior
I don't think has much to do with what was cancelled
- Richard Lawler
just got an invite from naymz and I had to stop short...Is Tom Drugan the founder or co-founder?
Hi Anthony. Saw this note. I am a co-founder of Naymz: http://bit.ly/4yK6Gd Have we worked together previously?
- tdrugan
I don't think we have but I would like to ask you a couple of questions...
- Anthony Farrior
Absolutely. I'm subscribed to you if you want to send me a direct message. Otherwise, I can be contacted via my Naymz profile: http://www.naymz.com/thomas_...
- tdrugan
Guys, here's a serious question: Do you use linux and open source? Don't you? Why? Why not? (Especially for desktops and workstations)
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Serious answers please! I mean comments like "freetards!" or "We HAVE to pay for software" aren't serious — Also, gentle discussions between commenters are very welcome! Please be nice, cool and helpful - I'd really appreciate it :)
- directeur
I tried it. It had a horrible learning curve and very little community support for those trying to run Linux on Mac hardware.
- Spidra Webster
Spidra, I run Linux on macs :) Can I help? Also, I actually think that you probably tried some years ago, didn't you?
- directeur
I do is certain situations. For example, I have a service offering that integrates the Asterisk PBX. I am mostly MS on the desktop.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
from iPhone
I did for a short time. I had no compelling reason to stay with it.
- Internet's Tad
Thanks, Erid, I'm editing my post for "Desktop" and "Workstations"
- directeur
Community was sometimes a hassle to deal with until I discovered Ubuntu and the community that went along with it. Then I had wi-fi issues every new release. Then I had sound card issues. And as for open source software in general. i will use OO as an example. It truly sucks in terms of UI and overall power compared to Microsoft Office which I adore
- Holden Page
Yes - I use Linux and Open source for all my backend servers at the school I work at. Its all LAMP and its all AWS. This includes blogs, moodle, streaming media (a and v), and other support systems I need to run my section of the school. I can't imagine using anything else right now.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I do from shitty FAT flash drives that die after awhile. It was also on the home computer until my dad demanded his Micro$oft back. If I'm allowed to keep this laptop I'm using now, I'm going to do a format C:/ first thing and get some Debian on
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
I thought linux was open source (bows out cuz i'm clueless.)
- MicahBear78
Tad, did you miss something? for eg?
- directeur
Yeah, I was trying back in 2000 or so. Before OS X. I think people who like tinkering are fine with Linux. I just want my computer to WORK. I used to be a Mac power user back in OS 9 days and troubleshot stuff and did tech support. I'm tired of it. I just want to get shit done.
- Spidra Webster
@Micah - SCO - they have ideas on that. :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Micah, duh! I meant other open source softawre beside Linux, Like BSD and other apps (not kernel)
- directeur
Linux because that's what I'm used to.
- Bruce Lewis
I use gnu/linux/open-source-software for my work and personal needs. Linux is awesome. Especially it's fast and stable for my development needs. (PHP, Python/Django.)
- Emre Yılmaz
Linux is great and all but it is still too complex for the average user,
- Hunter
It just didn't do anything for me. I'm more comfortable in Windows and OSX. I make a living writing software on the .NET framework. I toyed with Ruby on Rails for a while, and learned a lot, but I also learned that I could only make about half of what I'm making as a c# developer... I just have no need for Linux.
- Internet's Tad
I don't use Linux on the desktop because I don't consider gimp to be a sufficient replacement for Photoshop. That's the deal breaker. There are also other similar reasons that are less important.
- Jason Wehmhoener
On the server I am quite fond of BSD, debian, and Solaris.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I haven't found anything lacking in my OSX experience that I thought linux would have. I had considered a mythTV box for a while but boxee and plex have negated that need too.
- dthree
Yes, everywhere...except my macbook pro at home
- Bill Scherer
Yep, always, I use Linux on two flavours, Suse and Ubuntu. Unices in general are for people who value more broad networks and sharing to personal station and copyrights.
- Thierry Lhôte
Not on the desktop. I like playing games.
- Rodfather
i use for some reason like most security softwares (offensive security) work perfect on linux. and the desktops of linux? extremely cool =] on the other hand, i love graphical design stuffs and it's kinda meditation for me but most softwares i need does not work on linux yet. at least, not properly. also my graphic tablet does not work on linux. i can use it as a mouse but as a drawing tool i need pen pressure sensitivity and it does not work on linux. too bad =\
- emre dede ve haremi
I downloaded Ubuntu and installed it as dual boot with Vista, on a new Dell PC (with 2 hard drives). no issues.
- Mike Nencetti
Of course. It's the only environment I've seen that I can optimize to my workflow, rather than vice-versa. It's simpler, better-engineered, and far more customizable. Sadly, the graphics stack is sub-par as are most of the games, so for play I still have to use Windows.
- i80and
I use Linux Mint almost exclusively at home (I only boot Windows to sync my iPhone, my kids' iPod Touches and my Zune - the iPod Nano and the Creative Zen get synced from Linux). I boot XP in VirtualBox occasionally to check things in IE6 or to use MS Office. I use quite a bit of other open-source software (free and paid). I am a big advocate of open-source and Linux. As long as I can...
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- Curtiss Grymala
Mac is cool, Windows 7 is cool, but not fresh because overloaded with things and blahblah design we do not need for communication. Linux is still staying "fresh" even after hours of use. So LInux is best for intellectual work I presume.
- Thierry Lhôte
I love me some Linux and Open Source. Why? Transparency, mainly. Plus the software is usually super streamlined and as a consequence is not very resource intense. And I really love running at like 5% processor power.
- Miss Elle
Doh! My own answer! :) I use Linux (Debian Lenny) - I'm a kind of minimalist, I don't like to have to use gazzilions of apps (though linux haz dem too) But what I like more is that I am _aware_ of what's in my machine. I can do mostly anything that people do on other OSes (Now by anything I mean: do not compare apps, compare how we work and results of apps uses) And often I'm more...
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- directeur
Results aren't the only thing that matters. Efficiency is important as well when you are being paid by the hour. So is the ability to share files with colleagues. You can't completely dismiss the importance of apps.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, that's it actually (Posted my edit before) Sharing is easy for me. Why would it be hard?
- directeur
I like the Apps and U/X on OS X desktop much better, but you know that already.
- Cristo
directeur, I have some pretty complex PSDs. Can you edit them and send them back to me without messing them up?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Yes, I know Cristo :) yet you still have the power of the CLI too on OSX
- directeur
Yup, I use both, and ssh into a Linux server too. It's all good. I can imagine wanting to run Linux locally if you wanted to perfectly emulate your server on your desktop, but BSD on OS X is good enough for anything I need to do in that respect.
- Cristo
Jason - you're absolutely right about the fact that Photoshop is much more powerful than any alternatives. However, you've also contradicted yourself by using PSD files as an example. Can you share those complex PSD files with your clients? Most likely not. You said being able to share was most important for you, but then you cited a proprietary format that is not available to the majority of computer users (no matter their operating systems).
- Curtiss Grymala
Curtiss, if Jason and I wanted to work on the same PSD file, that would be sharing too, no? Giving files to clients is what Exporting and Save As is for.
- Cristo
Cristo - If directeur and I wanted to share the same XCF file, that would be sharing, too, no?
- Curtiss Grymala
I'd also like to answer for my Mom -- She loves Linux now that I've installed it on her desktop. I know her reason would be, "Because it just works." as the Puppy Linux LiveCD worked right off the boot-up and came with all the apps she ever wanted (well ... minus Skype ... but Gizmo was a good replacement). Also, she doesn't have to worry about malware, which consumed too many of her brain cycles.
- Miss Elle
Cristo, I think he means openness. Why would you expect everyone to own a copy of photoshop or whatever? Moreover, I think the Gimp can import PSD files too
- directeur
I did say "colleagues" and not "clients". I frequently share source format files with colleagues. (Colleagues who would laugh if I suggested they open an XCF using Gimp in order to do hourly paid design work)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Curtiss, not many design shops not using Photoshop or Fireworks. directeur, I'm pretty sure Jason and I are on the same page with this.
- Cristo
i just love linux and open source.
- Mengu
Jason what's laughable about it? I run a business and we all use Inkscape and the Gimp :/
- directeur
The Boyfriend does not line OpenSource. He's a total MacFanboi. His reason against the FLOSS were that he wanted the perceived status that comes with owning Apple products. Well marketed, Apple. Well marketed, indeed. Especially since OS X looks an awful lot like Ubuntu. (I assume it is different under the hood.)
- Miss Elle
Lots of gimp forum posts about errors with PSD files. directeur, you aren't working with my teammates.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@directeur - GIMP can import PSD though some of the blends don't import quite right.
- Miss Elle
Heh, thanks for the input Miss Elle! Linux doesn't have that kind of marketing, alas (or not?)
- directeur
The fact of the matter remains, though, that a lot of the "shareability" depends entirely on what you do for a living. I can share PHP files with anyone, no matter what system they're using or which editor they're working with because it's an open standard. However, you can only share PSD files with other colleagues that use Photoshop. For that matter, if you have CS4 and you use all of...
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- Curtiss Grymala
You know what's interesting? OS X includes a LOT of open source code.
- Jason Wehmhoener
If you think Linux looks like OS X, or that design shops use GIMP, then you aren't doing any pro design work.
- Cristo
Jason, so does Linux too ;-)
- directeur
Cristo you're definitely wrong! That's a genral statement by someone who apparently doesn't use this app a lot
- directeur
This is really kind of a silly discussion.
- Cristo
The GIMP is terrible at importing PSD files (especially with layers). However, PhotoShop isn't even capable (at least, out-of-the-box) of importing an XCF file. For that matter, it can't even import a PSP file, but Paint Shop Pro can fairly reliably import PSD files (it will rasterize vector elements, though - not implying that PSP is open-source, though).
- Curtiss Grymala
I really like the BSD license, because it allows open source code to live in harmony with commercial efforts. And ya, the conversation is kinda silly.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Well, let's be productive :) :re the conversation
- directeur
No...You can't run Office on *NIX and for me that's a non-starter.
- Alex Scoble
directeur, point us at a sample design of an entity that does most of their work in GIMP.
- Cristo
Alex, we're not talking about apps, but about what you want to do and how to do it
- directeur
I agree, directeur. Here's something productive for you - What does Adobe inDesign offer that's not available in Scribus? Very little. In fact, AFAIK, the only thing it doesn't offer that you can find in InDesign is a PMS matching system.
- Curtiss Grymala
I also think the BSD/Apache licenses are vastly superior to GPL and it's copyleft offshoots.
- Cristo
@Cristo - Though a LinuxLover at heart, I'll be the first to suggest that designers should use Apple. Apple seems to really nail the creative niche with its power to support graphic design, music, and movie softwares. I think there is enough room in the software world for a right fit for every need kind of thing and I'm not sure that Apple is always the right fit. Nor is Windows. Nor is Linux.
- Miss Elle
Cristo, I bet any opensource community does... anyway. I'd like to focus of what people need to do and how they achieve it, comparing apps is well, just silly
- directeur
Open source community projects generally suck at U/X design, particularly in the visual area. Sorry to be harsh, but it's the truth.
- Cristo
There are actually a lot of design firms that use open-source tools to do their work. The overwhelming majority of artwork for major open-source projects (linux builds, etc.) is done with open-source tools. They don't all suck, Cristo. If they did, Windows and Mac wouldn't steal UI elements from Linux (yes, it works the other way, too, I know).
- Curtiss Grymala
You put MacPorts on OSX and you can build and run most open source apps. You can run X11 on OSX as well though its not exactly blazing fast. I have Mac, Linux and Windows boxes, Mac is best of most worlds so its my desktop now, Windows is for games, still have a Linux box I use remotely. I grew up on Unix and fled to Linux very early. Just got tired of Gnome/KDE nonsense, drivers not working right, especially audio. Open source just struggles doing desktop, GUI, Audio and consistent apps.
- Ed Millard
Miss Ellie, I agree. Linux is particularly good as a server OS or as a desktop that is doing server development.
- Cristo
Why? because they don't look eye-candied à la Apple? Cristo?
- directeur
directeur, because they look amateurish.
- Cristo
I always thought X had something to do with UX issues in unix-land. programming for X seems complex compared to UI programming on windows and OS X.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Although there are toolkits that would seem to help...
- Jason Wehmhoener
Cristo, heh :) We will never agree, I think.
- directeur
I use linux for my main computer. I also use Android for my mobile. I try and use open sourced projects whenever possible too.
- Kevin Mohr
UX stands for user experience. UI stands for user interface. UX has nothing to do with the X window environment.
- Curtiss Grymala
Seriously, guys, let's be productive tell me about usability. Not how cool apps look, My desktop (I don't have an actual desktop) is a black screen, no panels, no buttons, no menus, not even a wallpaper, nothing! and I do everything I need to do
- directeur
I always thought the Windows 95-esque GUI for Linux was because most of the apps are written by coders who, as code monkies, aren't very visually oriented individuals
- Miss Elle
Android is Apache 2, the superior license.
- Cristo
Miss Elle, I agree, and I wondered "why aren't some visually oriented individuals improving the situation?" and I think it's because it takes too much damn code to make a Linux UI.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Curtiss, I'm not sure Jason was implying there was a connection, other than the X windowing server may be used to implement the Linux user experience.
- Cristo
Miss Elle - what desktop environment and window manager are you using with linux? Not everything resembles Windows 95. In fact, KDE has a very slick look, especially when combined with the right window manager.
- Curtiss Grymala
directeur, i do a lot of things that cannot be done via CLI. Sorry, it's just a fact.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I'm never going to use an acronym for "user experience" again. gah.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Linux UI? Please stop these idées-reçues! The Linux desktop has changed since the 90's a LOT! @Jason, I'm using X with ratpoison, not only the CLI :)
- directeur
directeur, you're correct. I'm not going to switch from using OS X, which I love to use., to using Linux which I find amateurish from a U/X point of view. I'm not suggesting anyone stop using Linux as their desktop either.
- Cristo
Cristo, that's your right and you have answered your and this thread's question :) — "amateurish" is not an answer. It's a statement. Don't expect me to agree, think whatever you want :)
- directeur
Nothing I say is ever meant to be anything other than my opinion, unless I claim it as fact. :)
- Cristo
I use windows and some open source software. Why because I'm familiar with windows tools,and used visual studio for years- I got sick of makefiles for complex library builds, dependencies, etc
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Sorry for the misunderstanding, Jason. I thought you were implying that the "X" in UX was the problem, and relating that to the X graphic environment. My fault. Also, as I mentioned, I agree with you guys about PhotoShop (and I feel the same way about MS Office), but I was just trying to point out that you can't dismiss things out-of-hand just because you don't use them.
- Curtiss Grymala
I am using Gnome one one machine and KDE on the other. And while I've found ways to apply beautiful themes, that still doesn't save AbiWord or Blender or Gxine or Mplayer or a host of other apps interfaces which are stuck somewhere between Win95 and Win3.1. kPDF, on the other hand, does a good job, I think.
- Miss Elle
Curtiss, I actually think it's really cool that some folks use open source exclusively for design. I'm actually a little jealous, but my priorities are such that I can't get hung up on it. I use the tools I need to use to work with the people I want to work with.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Not sure I would say its amatuerish, inconsistent is probably a better word. There just aren't good standards and its to easy for open source coders to wander all over the map designing inconsistent UI, inconsistent hotkeys, drag and drop integration not working right etc. Apple has Interface Builder which is a dream to develop UI in, its why their apps tend to be consistent and good. If you stay within in Gnome or KDE apps the inconsistency isnt so bad but its just not as good as OSX.
- Ed Millard
For a really long time (pre vista) I had a dual boot of xp and freeBSD. I used windows for school projects where i was just too busy and lazy to work with programs that said they were Office/win compatible, but came out garbled on my un-computer friendly professor's pc. But I also remember every time I had a final paper due, win would crap out and I'd have to go into the linux partition...
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- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
That I understand, Miss Elle. As Ed just mentioned, it's more about inconsistency, actually. Depending on the apps you use, you can find the same phenomenon among closed-source, paid applications in Windows.
- Curtiss Grymala
Someone should make an open source Interface Builder like app.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Something like Glade? Jason?
- directeur
I don't know enough about Glade to compare it to IB. Has anyone else used both?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason - I completely understand. I am fortunate enough to have CS4 for work, but if it wasn't provided, I'd have no choice but to use free, open-source apps, as there's no way I could afford to buy CS4 out of my own pocket. That's why I try to keep up to date with those apps (in case I ever end up at a different job without CS4 at my disposal). Granted, I'm not a designer, but I do have to work with designers regularly.
- Curtiss Grymala
I think Qt/KDE has an interface designer but I haven't used it enough to say how good it is. Apple did just about everything right in Interface Builder. As long as Linux has so many different desktops, window managers, audio API's, GUI toolkits its just not going to be very friendly to app developers or your average end user. The whole KDE versus GNOME thing really messes it up as a desktop OS and makes it too fragmented.
- Ed Millard
@Curtiss -- I've noticed that, too. Again I think it is a case of "good coder, bad at GUI", but that OpenSource seems to encourage everyone to code it if they can think it. Whereas for the closed source operating systems there is typically a team working on the software and one member of the team is usually a GUI designer. When it is a volunteer team, as I've seen often with FLOSS, there is not that guarantee of a GUI designer having an input.
- Miss Elle
That's absolutely true, Miss Elle. As independent coders/developers, it can be extremely difficult to find designers that are willing to work for free. If we can't monetize our product (which is entirely possible with open-source, it's just extremely rare), we can't pay a designer. That's why we generally end up designing things ourselves (note - I am not a desktop application developer, I am a Web app developer, but the principle still applies).
- Curtiss Grymala
over 100 comments in an hour?
- Mike Nencetti
We better stop, otherwise people might think Friendfeed's not dead. :)
- Curtiss Grymala
:P Like your input, guys! :) Even people who don't agree with me #lookingAtCristo
- directeur
I had a flirting with Unix/Linux when I was in high-school. Then I got my first programming job and it was on Windows... And from that point on it was Windows. It's just what most corporate businesses environments use for the kind of applications that I write. So it makes sense for me to use Windows and not Linux. And I'm more comfortable doing so. I see no reason to switch.
- Her Lindsay-ness
(Should be inserted into the discussion, above.) In all fairness to Scribus, when I was Yearbook Adviser (I'm a teacher), we did our entire yearbook in Scribus and it looked just as good as the Adobe InDesign books. I turned out a whole staff of 30 kiddos trained in Scribus who are still using Scribus to this day. (I left that school for another that already had a Yearbook Adviser.)
- Miss Elle
Lindsay, why "switch"? Why not use and exepriement, maybe you'll be able to do different tasks better on an OS or another — I mean, give things a try. Or aren't you interested at all? :)
- directeur
Yes. I use Crunchbang on the Old Beast (desktop). I have used Linux Mint and Ubuntu previously. Linux seems to work better on the older machine than XP does.
- Steven Perez
I don't use Linux, but I do use a lot of open source software (esp., Firefox, GIMP, OpenOffice).
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I do enjoy some of the shared freedom of open source, and web programming. I'm not trapped by 14 years of libraries and portability issues with scala, php or other platform independent tools. I've heard scala/java is actually competitive with c++ for some numerical applications but I have yet to witness this first hand (it's always been slower in my experience)
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I use Ubuntu on most machines - my PC and HTPC at home, and my laptop at work. At home I mostly use Firefox, Pidgin and GIMP with UFRaw (which I find perfectly adequate for my personal photography). At work I do software design and development, with Evolution for accessing email from Exchange, and Java and Eclipse as the dev environment. Most of the team has switched over to Ubuntu in recent months because it's faster and more stable than Windows for the work we're doing.
- Edward Coffey
Thanks to this thread, I'm going to check out Scribus.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@directeur -- Not that you asked, but one of the things I'm doing to help the FLOSS movement is writing non-technical guides or tutorials for how to do basic functions on the software I use. I find that there is a general lack of 8th-grade-level documentation for programs which is why most people aren't adventurous. And it is a small way of giving back since I am not an artist nor a...
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- Miss Elle
Glad it helped, Jason! Folks, I really appreciated that this thread didn't turn into a flame war. Thanks a lot! :)
- directeur
I started using Linux around '98. It was fun. I tried a lot of different distros. However, I ended up working in a Microsoft world and began to focus on just using MS. While futzing around and rebuilding my OS was entertaining, I stopped doing that when I also got into gaming. Didn't have the space or money to run dual boot or multi-machines and by the time I did well... my only foray...
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- Arlan Koizumi
Yay! As someone who started out using Pagemaker 4 (and then onto 6.5, then to InDesign), I can say that Scribus is extremely impressive. Also, I felt I should clarify my statement about MS Office earlier. MS Word is really the only Office component I think is much better than open-source alternatives. The rest of Office is either matched or exceeded by open-source software.
- Curtiss Grymala
Miss Elle, I HIGHLY respect people like you! Code is a good thing, "educating" people is better IMHO. Thanks for all your work!
- directeur
That's awesome and enviable, Miss Elle. I've been tempted to do the same, but never really had enough ambition to follow through.
- Curtiss Grymala
StarOffice was awesome. I loved it. I tried getting into GIMP but man, it took a while (and still does >_>).
- Arlan Koizumi
I like Eclipse too. That is a great open source app. Doubt many Windows developers use and it unfortunately doesn't do Objective C yet so its not good for Cocoa development on iPhone and Mac yet. If you do Java or C/C++ its awesome across Linux, Mac and Window.
- Ed Millard
Eclipse is great.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Arlan -- StarOffice was awesome. I actually really like OO.o 3.x series. I feel like it is getting back to what I wanted from an office suite. Have you checked it out lately?
- Miss Elle
Open Office is great, it just fails too often if you have to exchange writable docs with people using Word, or at least is has every time I've used it, the formatting always gets mess up, though maybe I'm a bad doc writter. If you just need to produce PDF's it is great.
- Ed Millard
Miss Elle, I might have but it would've been in the Neo Office conversion for Mac. There were a few things that bugged me. I haven't installed much on my Eee PC since getting Ubuntu on there as I mainly used it for social network monitoring, but I'll be sure to give it a looksie.
- Arlan Koizumi
For docs, call me an idiot, an old guy or anything, but I think that LaTeX is a very good choice. It's the perfect app which clearly separates content from the form/style. OpenOffice and MS Office do that too, but I really do think that documents rendered with LaTeX are superior in quality. Let alone the ease of exchange, we're talking about simple text files which can be edited anywhere with anything
- directeur
I had problems in Neo Office with docs with complex layouts (like my resume) but regular letters translated perfectly between NO and Word. Oh yeah, heard good stuff about LaTex but never tried it.
- Arlan Koizumi
That is great and all, but my professor for college english doesn't care that text document is editable anywhere :)
- Holden Page
from IM
Until OOO properly supports comments and tracked changes, I will still not be able to use it regularly (we use tracked changes for everything at work, and they are an extremely useful feature). I would love to, but I just can't without support for tracked changes.
- Curtiss Grymala
Holden, I guess your professor expects a printed doc, right? Also, if you can make your professor smarter, do it! You know in almost any good university some profs often require thesis rendered with LaTeX :)
- directeur
As my last word on this subject for the night, you guys should check out http://zwopper.deviantart.com/gallery... While they are all wallpapers, Zwopper does all of his artwork exclusively in the GIMP, and actually does a pretty nice job with quite a few of them.
- Curtiss Grymala
@directeur -- My problem with LaTeX was that I never could get it to render into PDF and could never find useful documentation written for my understanding level.
- Miss Elle
Absolutelly, Curtis! They're gorgeous!
- directeur
Miss Elle, that should be easy actually, do you have pdflatex?
- directeur
I don't have nearly as much patience for dicking around with my computer as I used to. Windows works, and when it doesn't, I know how to make it work. i've taken time to learn some linux things, but I just don't have time/patience
- Richard Lawler
I've been using Linux as my primary desktop and development environment for a decade now. I could never use Mac OS X or Windows as my primary environment any more. They just don't feel right to me. Linux installs are easier than Windows installs for me and trouble shooting is easier. Some things don't work for me now that I wish did (like using my bluetooth headphones), but everything...
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- Travis B. Hartwell
I use Linux on my home workstation. At work, I use it also as my main workstation, OSX on my laptop, and centos/redhat for the production servers. I'm a big supporter of open source.
- imabonehead
Mac OS X didn't really exist a decade ago (unless you used a NeXT machine). It's more honest to just say you're not interested in exploring it or that refined U/X is not the most important issue for you.
- Cristo
U/X is not good for me on OS X. There's something -- hard to pinpoint -- I don't know, "fussy" about the UI. I don't like it. I don't care how "refined" it is, or how much usability testing it's a product of.
- Christopher A Carr
No argument that it's not for everyone. But using it doesn't mean you don't appreciate Unix or open source either.
- Cristo
Ed: I've spent many hours on OS X. I'm used to it. To be "used to" OS X isn't necessarily to love the OS X UI, as Cristo might assume to be the case...
- Christopher A Carr
What am I assuming? I don't follow this.
- Cristo
I do Ubuntu. Plus I run a whole lot of open source software on Windows. I even like how the Wine compatibility layer allows me to run my Windows programs under Linux (there's a script called winetricks that imports your existing Windows programs' settings into the Wine registry, allowing you to run them without having to reinstall). I was going to triple boot my Dell with FreeDOS, but it (the Dell) is powerful enough that I can just run it emulated under either Windows or Linux.
- Dennis Jernberg
Cristo: I get the impression that you suppose that OS X's UI is so wonderful, that if one doesn't care for it, they must simply not be familiar with it. ...just a guess on my part.
- Christopher A Carr
This is a linux house for everything but the direct-tv dvr (which may also be linux for all I know), and we are using Ubuntu as the distro of choice. Well, more like that's what I installed, so that's what everyone is using.
- Grant Bierman
Christohper, no, I don't assume that. You might have mistaken my response to another commenter as meaning that though. I've seen UI disagreements since the early 80s, so I have no illusions about people having different tastes and biases. In fact, arguments for or against things like the menu bar at the top of the Mac desktop vs menus on windows as many other UIs have grown very...
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- Cristo
no adobe cs for linux
- minus-one
Yes, I use FLOSS. No, Linux is not my primary OS
- LANjackal
I use GNU/Linux because my work is done on a computer and I need a reliable operating system for that. Another reason is that my OS (I'm using ubuntu) is out-of-the-box, everything works (internet, printer, etc). Third reason, I can adapt my OS to my needs. Fourth reason, I like to keep my options open and GNU/Linux allows me to have all my contents in open formats, this way I feel more secure about accessing those contents in the future.
- paula simoes ☃
Everything I've heard tells me that macs are great,I'd love one. But I simply can't afford one that's recent enough to have the capabilities I want. So I dual boot Windows and Mint. Similarly I'm sure Photoshop CS4 is better than GIMP, but for a home user it's ridiculously expensive. The latest versions of Elements and PSP also cost more than I'm able to spend (it's that or prints). It's all as simple as that. As WINE improves the advantages of paying for Windows are decreasing as well.
- grraargh
@grraargh I had a mac, some years ago, I had so many problems (mostly hardware) I decided to never have a mac again
- paula simoes ☃
well, i've been running free software only, specially gnu/linux for about 11 years,since i get in touch with it when i was working on Lisbon Expo98 world fair; they were using it as mail and web server and it really worked so well that i thought that i had to try (they were using red hat 5.0/5.2) since i like to be different ;) i choose to install SuSE; but what i really liked was it's philosophy, since than i'm a huge fan of Free Livre Software. My favorite Distro, Debian :)
- ovigia
Sometimes..! I like Microsoft Applications usually.
- ★ Soner Gönül
I do. GNU/Linux is simply the most powerful OS out there, and that's the main reason. Besides, I prefer free software because it's the best software model there is :-)
- Marcos Marado
I have been using it for the better part of 9 years. When I first started using it I loved that you really had to get your hands dirty to make every thing to work just right. At the time I thought of it (FreeBSD 4.6) as the most stable programing platform and things like writing my own CVS file and compiling a Kernel for sound were a lot of fun. Later as I started playing with Linux...
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- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Linux is my primary OS. It's the PC that runs my Livingroom entertainment center and my family has adapted to it very well. My wife uses it to surf and handle business and my kids uses it to play games and watch movies...I use it to blog :)
- Anthony Farrior
Use Ubuntu and test out its alphas/betas almost every day.
- Manuel Mas
My HP laptop has some horrible WiFi problems that lead the machine to lock up. I successfully fixed it on Vista and I haven't been able to make it work on Linux yet. I run a Linux VM for development so I'm happy enough.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes both at work and at home - Ubuntu for desktop and laptop. We use as much open source software as we can - Firefox, Opera, DeskNow, OpenOffice.org, Gimp, Joomla and MaiaCMS (our programmer wrote & release to os community), Our close to 300 public computers are also running a version of Linux (http://groovix.com/) - why? Because we believe in giving our customers the best but also...
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- Mlibrarianus
@Mlibrarianus little correction: Opera is not open source, as well as DeskNow.
- Artemko
started learning linux years ago after finding webhosts were cheaper than winnt, and got some personal servers running with debian since it seemed compatible with most any old hardware. now using ubuntu for desktop since it includes recent software versions, and installation and upgrading are a breeze. for anyone that thinks linux desktop looks bad, check out screen shots of the latest visual options http://personal.utulsa.edu/~stuart...
- Mike Chelen
I use linux at home and work. Ubuntu on my desktop and laptop.
- Necati Demir
I use Ubuntu on the desktop. Have been for several years now. The latest releases have smoothed out most of the user experience glitches, and hardware support mostly just works (it is now frequently the case that Linux supports hardware out-of-the-box where Windows requires a dodgy driver). I find OpenOffice sufficient for most of my needs re: an office suite, but frankly I don't use it...
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- Michael R. Bernstein
Again thank you all for your comments, folks! Really nice to see people with different OSes discuss this subject in such a civilised way! (Which -won't we all agree?- is a rare thing) :)
- directeur
I don't use linux because of software compatibility issues (most of my mission-critical apps would have to be reinstalled and there's no compelling reason to do so). I use tons of open source stuff in Windows XP, though. Probably 70% of the software I use is open source, just not the OS.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Don't remember if I commented or not (and I'm too lazy to dig through 150 comments), but I use Linux mainly on servers. I do have a desktop environment on most of them that I'll use on occasion (I'm partial to KDE). But for the most part, I don't use Linux on the desktop. I run Mac OSX primarily, with a bevy of Open Source apps: Adium, Firefox, Cyberduck, Colloquy and OpenOffice are just a few I use regularly.
- Jason Huebel
I always do a Ctrl-F search for "- You" to see if I'm in on a thread ;)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Jason, you'll know if you commented or not if it shows up in your My discussions, or if you liked it, whether it shows up in your comments.
- Cristo
I'm browsing the Best of Day list. I didn't "Like", but sometimes I forget to.
- Jason Huebel
I run an Ubuntu VM on my macbook pro, but OSX is the primary desktop. On the server, it's Linux all the way. Love open source, but like OSX more.
- Deepak Singh
@directeur - just saw your response to my comment and to answer your question: I have so many side projects and things going on with Windows development I don't have the time or energy to devote to the learning curve of another OS. Basically I can't even stand OSX and get majorly frustrated whenever I have to do anything on Tad's or Avynn's Macs, so I figure Linux is out of the...
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- Her Lindsay-ness
This question is very much like asking why you live in a brick apartment building in the city rather than in a log cabin in the woods. My first computer ran Windows 98 and I got used to things being a certain way. My second computer ran WinME and had a very short life, so i took my WinME and installed it on the older computer (it's still running it, and quite stable, although painfully...
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- April Russo (app103)
B-Boy & Daniel: check out the cleaner friendfeed script http://userstyles.org/styles... (via http://friendfeed.com/friendf...) which highlights your own comments making them easier to notice quickly
- Mike Chelen
April: thankfully though there is a standard method to install most any software in linux within a few minutes, for free, then have it automatically updated if you like it, or uninstall and move on to the next. there is a lot of good software available, gedit is one example (check out all the useful options if you haven't already), though finding which is best suited to you can take time
- Mike Chelen
None of the special purpose signmaking programs like Flexisign run under Linux, thus my workplace uses Windows. I tried Linux on my desktop, it offered me no advantage, and couldn't run the Hipihi, Novoking, or uWorld, or hardly any of the interesting software I read about. Inkscape, probably Linux's best vector illustration program, can't even use an eps file.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Google wave needs more interaction - http://myphillynetwork.com/google-...
Roberto Bonini, Eric Logan and Kenton liked this
Sounds like it's dying.
- Kenton
Dying maybe the wrong word (we've been DEAD happy as of late). Google Wave has some great potential uses but for a very different function. It's design, though intended to be social, works better for teams and projects. I think the invite system didn't help the matter either as finding other friends already in was a challenge. Let's not touch "the hype"....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
That's my prior argument. It looks better suited for collaboration but people made one- dimensional twitter a hotspot, why not google wave?
- Anthony Farrior
Part of the problem right now with Wave is discoverability. I could not find the wave that you posted about despite using the search parameters.
- Eric Logan
I think it's search is internalized like gmail for now. I couldn't search for other user's things either...
- Anthony Farrior
I just realized that the search parameters are only good if the wave is public. Otherwise you must be manually added to the wave.
- Eric Logan
Has anyone tried Echo? Is it worth the $12/year?
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Uh...Who? Js-kit?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
yes
- Shevonne
From what I've seen it's a lot like friend feed only for comments. Disqus is giving JS-Kit [echo] a run for their money with their Disqus3 version.I'll stick with what's free.
- Dee
i like echo, it's clean and fast. Disqus never showed my friendfeed comments and made a half-@#$% effort to fix it for me...
- Anthony Farrior
Is it a significant amount that it misses? Or just one or two?
- Shevonne
I don't see how it could be worth any money unless someone can show in a side-by-side comparison that it is significantly better at what it does than Disqus 3.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
@Rahsheen - Do you know if Disqus Version 2.12.7121 actually Disqus 3? It is the newest version that I can find on the wordpress site but I would think that they would # the version with "3". My problem with the last version which was supposed to pull in social comments is that it never pulled in any, does it work now?
- Brian
Reactions seem to work fine on my blog, check this post for an example http://sheenonline.biz/2009...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I'm running Disqus 2.12.7121 as well. You need to make sure you're using their new default theme as well. Can't remember the name, but you change it on the site in your settings.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Looks like they work great on your site! I will give it a try again! It could be that I use the Thesis theme for my blog and it changes the structure of wordpress somewhat to make it more customizable.
- Brian
Viral email - Is Kanye Stealing Your Shine? | My Philly Network - http://myphillynetwork.com/viral-e...
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too funny
- Anthony Farrior
from Bookmarklet
baratunde: My episode of TWiT is up with @leolaporte, @jlouderb, @dspark, @TheREALDvorak. http://twit.tv/217. Listen. - http://twitter.com/baratun...
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It was a good one too
- Anthony Farrior
Are iPhones and iPods That Good? http://myphillynetwork.com/are-iph...
No.
- Steve Lowe
I agree but it's just something about them...
- Anthony Farrior
They are beautiful objects, but design is, alas, no substitute for quality, and I've had questionable results with ipods. My iphone is okay so far.
- Steve Lowe
I hear you...
- Anthony Farrior
Yes. I love my iPod Touch.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Google wave- communicate or collaborate? - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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@solacetech can we have an "and/or"?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
I'm trying to polarize here :)
- Anthony Farrior
Fwd: Good Reason Why You Shouldn’t Lose Your iPhone or iPod - http://myphillynetwork.com/good-re... (via http://friendfeed.com/solacet...)
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it's a viper remote start app
- Anthony Farrior
Shouldn't you be more concerned about someone hacking the SmartStart service, simulating (or blocking) the communications, etc?
- Joel Bennett
Why not just separate the phone into two pieces. You would leave a small base station in your home while you carry your portable device (like notebook, iphone, etc. around). If you miss it somehow then you get home and take the base station and enter a 'kill command' which essentially renders the connected device useless for whoever took it. No hassles of calling your phone company to find your IMEI number etc.
- TrafficBug
Is there a class divide in social networking? - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
@solacetech is it any different than the geeral class divide on the Internet?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
The social network is the internet
- Anthony Farrior
Gravity on the Nokia 5800xm - http://myphillynetwork.com/gravity...
still working out my mobile blogging kinks...
- Anthony Farrior
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