“Friendfeed needs a "pause" button to stop auto-refreshes. I sometimes go to check a link someone's posted, and when I come back to "like" it or comment, it's already scrolled off the bottom of the page. ”
Nathan, as a workaround, if you keep a comment text box open, auto-refresh stops. Now you just need to remember to click on comment before getting lost in reading :P - Mark Trapp
Heh, Mark, how many times a day do you have to post that workaround in people's comments? - nathan
Once a day usually, apologies if I already told you that. - Mark Trapp
No no no. Not Pause. Tweak the ajax to make it refresh faster and make a dedicated "later" link - Anthony Farrior
@Mark not at all, but you came back with that so fast I figured it must not be the first time...heh - nathan
Let's hope that a person doesn't [accidentally] press any keys, and then hit "enter" when the comment box has focus. - possible248
Oh...Some say he's just a guy with ichat and a macbook. If that's true that means ANYONE can work out a deal with big companies like verizon. I'm here at Friendfeed to learn from others and help others. That's just me, all day... - Anthony Farrior
@Lucretia Pruitt that's you? Cool! thanx for commenting on my blog about it too! See? - Anthony Farrior
Ahh.. all this time on earth I've been here to make friends and not to win the competition. Now I see why I suck. - Brandon Werner
I had to stop watching after 40 seconds...But I liked it! - dbush
I'm here for Brett, Tila, Flav, and to win the next big american top apprentice model chef amazing race for elle woods rock of flav shot.. Oh wait, this is not the place for that? OK. I am heading back to myspace. - Andrea Baker
Crosspost: I am going to set this up to project on my ceiling every morning when I wake up. - Rob Sterling
This is what's wrong with people. Most are selfish and don't care what others think. Not good. - Shayna
That is what is wrong with today's society, nobody wants to be friends - Richard Lee
Cant we all just get along and be friends? - Britney Mason
"This isn't the first time somebody called a "tipping point" for FriendFeed.
In March, Techmeme's Gabe Rivera said:
http://twitter.com/gaberivera/...
"It's apparent to Friendfeed users that the service tipped today. Yet the site is as responsive as ever. Well done, Friendfeed."
That was largely in part due to the response from a post I made about leading bloggers joining FriendFeed.
A lot of that was captured here (although the story is antiquated given Duncan Riley has done a 180 on the service): http://www.louisgray.com/live/......" - Louis Gray
I thought we had it rough up here in Canada. These NZ rates are astounding. - Granteezy
If the rates in Australia are anything like that, i'm going to egg a Telstra shop - Chris Dahl
This is totally wrong: "The $199 price is for new contract-holders only. If you’re an AT&T subscriber you’ll be paying $399 and $499 for your iPhone - about $100 less than the non-contract price." - Mike Doeff
great. thanks, guys. feel free to share or mod. - Hao Chen
hao Chen-now make me a script to find people that I'll like and only allow stuff I like when I'd like it... :D Louis Gray all on-24/7 of course :D - Mark Forman
Updated! Adds a button at the top to hide the people you already subscribe to. - Hao Chen
thanks! you should make a new posting for us to like it new, as people will otherwise not recognize it as fast. ;) and i think engtech or aviv had something in their scripts to check for updates, i liked that too. - Nicole Simon
Very cool! Can you update this so it displays how many comments and likes each user has? I don't want to friend people that don't participate. :) - Erica Baker
@Erica, it's possible, but would require one AJAX request per user! Right now it's only making one request total. - Hao Chen
I imagine Twitter could offload some its load to summize's cache. Plus, Summize (though a different problem space) has shown good ability to scale, so I bet some clever engineers come with the deal. - Nate Koechley
This could be interesting. I am happy for the folks at Summize. - Clay Newton
I think the wisdom of this move is in stopping the bleeding... Perhaps Summize was in a similar situation to Twitterboard, and rather than let them die and continue the degradation of their valuable Twitter ecosystem, they decided to buy them and keep them going. - Jason Carreira via twhirl
@ChangeForge, I agree. This is great news for summize, but I don't understand how this helps Twitter's up/down time - gregory
Not a surprise. Guess Summize will now be down all the time too! - ChaCha Fance
Twitter gains a great search tool which can sift through past entries while twitter is down...maintain user attention longer. - Andy Angelos
I have to ask the same thing as ChangeForge - I don't get how Twitter can possibly be in the business of snagging other startups, when it barely does what it's supposed to do itself. - Spinn
hah... a Twitter = a startup that can't stay up... - ChangeForge via twhirl
Angelos - this reminds me of the Wizard of Oz - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. - ChangeForge via twhirl
The SouthWest terminal in BOI now has comfy chairs and 2 power plugs and 2 USB (powered) plugs for each. Amazing!! They can say whatever they want if I can charge, LOL - Shayna
Weird.. they're not s'posed to talk like that when the public is around... - Harry Myhre
Too funny! You should make a subtle comment to them about their conversation on your way by just to embarrass the crap out of them. - Jeff P. Henderson
If the bkmark is private, no, but that's more like a bonus feature, no? - Greg Williams
Social should simpy mean when there is interaction with other people. When I drink with friends - that's a good night out; when I drink alone, it's alcholism. - Elias Bizannes
@liako It's not always alcoholism, though. Just as del.icio.us is not exclusively a social tool, so, too, alcohol is not just a social "tool". I enjoy a glass of wine with dinner, even on my own. And I like to crack a beer or two while going through my Google Reader in the late afternoon. And, in a way, I think this applies to online social tools, too. - Greg Williams
Not necessarily social, but there's nothing wrong with it imo. - Nate Koechley
delicious bookmarks are like leaving breadcrumbs... people can follow them to where ever your brain is headed. i think they're social just by the fact that you're doing them out in public. - kris krug
Bookmarking can be social, people can follow what you post in FriendFeed on you blog etc, agree with @liako social = interaction - Justin Yost
of course it is social.... like anything it is how you use it. if you don't want people to see your feed here... you can always delete what is noise... I say get the info out. I like bookmarking del.icio.us and then an echo from twitter is replay... kind of like a tnt movie that repeats in case my friends missed it. it is fine with my audience because they like me. - Noah David Simon
at best, it's minimally social. delicious alone is mostly useless. I liken it to putting a poster in your window in college, sure it telegraphs your POV somewhat but you don't know if that Hendrix poster is there because they like him or because it looks cool under a blacklight. - James Williams
put your vonage on the lowest bandwith usage. it still sounds great and plays nice with everyone else - Anthony Farrior
Almost same setup here, but with Comcast cable modem. Do you have the Vonage adapter plugged into an ethernet port on the router, and the router's WAN/Internet port connected to your DSL modem? Can you open the router's admin page with a computer plugged into an ethernet port at the same time the Vonage adapter is active? - Craig Eddy
Did you get your router issue resolved? - Craig Eddy
No, Craig, not yet. I've reset it to factory default and so far nothing has worked. I'm wondering if it was damaged in the move, but I moved it myself and I don't think it did. Especially given the fact that the Vonage adapter works just fine through the router. - Gregory Pittman
It's just very odd that the Vonage adapter works and other "internet" doesn't, since the Vonage adapter is using your "internet" to connect. - Craig Eddy
I know. All four ports were working pre-move. We had a TiVo hooked up, a PlayStation, Vonage, and one for wired access when I needed it. I'll keep playing around and see what I can figure out. - Gregory Pittman
it is based on that. :) I am using that, but wading through all the people is time consuming. don't know if you can enhance it to have a checkbox to just display the ones with a subscribe button? :) - Nicole Simon
Sure, that's a reasonable request. Another trick I sometimes use is setting the num in the URL query string to get more results per page. http://friendfeed.com/settings... - Hao Chen
ah - did not know that worked tool. maybe, to spear you the switch box, just gray the subscribed ones out for a start? - Nicole Simon
Doesn't this mean you need to unsub from TechCrunch, Mashable, ReadWriteWeb and TechMeme as well? - Rob Diana
TechCrunch is getting really annoying. Michael Arrington has nothing better to write about other than FriendFeed vs. Twitter articles. - Michael Narciso
People forget that everyone was making the same comments about Twitter when it came out. No one could understand what it was, nor explain what it did! - Jesse Stay
See, I think the roles of twitter and friendfeed have settled down in the last couple of weeks. Even Scoble is not using twitter for responses that much any more. Twitter is the real microblog and friendfeed is where you move the conversation to. Great synergy! - Cem Catikkas
Got to agree with that Cem, both services are starting to make great sense to me now. - David Smailes
Probably not the best, but I like reading GottaBeMobile.com - Justin Korn
I second the thanks to Colin. Disclosure: I write at jkOTR. ;) Julian, there's no lack of good blogs that follow mobile tech / trends. http://mobile.alltop.com aggregates quite a few of them to get you started. - Kevin C. Tofel
the nice thing about friendfeed is that you can bring twitter with you and the comment threading rocks. Many conversations start in twitter but they now finish in friendfeed. - jered reynolds via feedalizr
Agreed. You would have thought the lack of a business model would be their biggest problem. - Scott Watermasysk
i'm done with twitter myself, i have my own social network to worry about that and all that friendfeed goodness - Jay Martinez via twhirl
Funny thing about the tide.. It goes out just as fast as it came in.. - mark
I really like ff. So much more interesting here with pics vids links - loren Feldman
And to add to everything: ff just works. - Holger Eilhard
Isn't the Honeymoon over yet for FriendFeed? It's getting really old. Twitter is NOT dying and they will eventually fix their issues. Also, I don't see how everyone is doing a competition between the two products. They are completely two different products that serve different purposes. I will continue to use both Twitter and FriendFeed they go hand in hand together. - Chris Rodgers
Music too Loren. I'm loving the new music I listen to as a result of people sharing Last.fm, Pandora, etc. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I have to disagree. I don't think Twitter is dying. I think Friend Feed is helping Twitter in a lot of ways. I still use Twitter and, update from my phone and other apps. My updates come right onto FF and, people comment. That's the same a lot of us do. Yes, we're all getting tired of Twitter's constant issues. Isn't that the real problem though? Twitter's constant issues it's what is the most frustrating. - Candace Holly
You guys are drinking WAY too much of the Kool-Aid. I love FF but Twitter isn't going anywhere. - Mike Doeff
Certainly FF is more stable, but I still enjoy the quick update nature of Twitter. I think that both can exist alongside one another and actually enhance each other. - Mark
How about Twitter and Pownce coming together, maybe they can make it that way. I think friendfeed is cool, but will it replace Twitter. I'm hoping for Twitter to change!!! Listen to the users!! Twitter!!! - Jorge
I gotta agree with Chris R. Twitter and FF don't seems to serve the same purpose. I use Twitter for conversation and FF for following the stream of what my friends are doing. - Robert Chute
saying Twitter is dieing because of FriendFeed is sort of like saying Yahoo IM is dieing because of Adium or Trillian. Two different products. One is a mobloging site, the other is a social media aggregator with the ability to interact with other social media/moblogging services. If Twitter did die out and close it's doors, FriendFeed would lose it's ability to communicate with it. - The Geek Media
Twitter is still king of micro blogging although with identi.ca's open source platform, we'll see what happens. So far I don't like Plurk and Pownce can't stay up long enough to use it. - David Ward
Truthfully, I grew tired of Twitter two months ago. It served its purpose during conferences I've attended over the past year, but I just couldn't get enough of my friends to adopt it to make it worth my time. FriendFeed, however, is much more informative, and it seems like I'm finding something new and cool every few minutes. - Jeremy Botter
twitter's only assets are a user base and a variety of data entry points. That is not an unsurpassable moat. If friendfeed added SMS and IM updates they could steal a significant amount of twitter's traffic. - Andrew Burd
Prediction - Twitter hits 5 million users by Feb 09 - Sean Kelly
Friendfeed will outnumber Twitter sooner rather than later because it already controls a significant part of conversation streams. Plus, it aggregate every other webservice produced content that's a main part. Add those features @Andrew Burd is talking about and you will definitely talk about Twitter as something from the past. - yvons
Yes but people (except JC) still using twitter beside, I would like to use more FF, but people keeps answering me on Tweeter ! - Jean-François Amadei via twhirl
ⓞnor added a product to the Amazon Wish List Wish List
for dumbs who give their own hands pain with hot water? - Erhan Erdogan
I've seen this on ThinkGeek for years, but my wife would never go for something like this. - RAPatton
I can't even bring myself to go for it. I don't think I can spare the inches of faucet headroom... - ⓞnor
I'll probably get something like this for our guest bathroom. I want to have things in there that are cool to see occasionally but not something you want to see every day. - Amit Patel
Their Touch-Tap appears to have the most confusing possible interface you could ever design for a faucet. Two numbers and four buttons, how could they have made all the wrong choices? - ⓞnor
I think people need to start looking at traffic and subscribers. Granted, my blog is still fairly small, but I get more traffic and subscribers because of FriendFeed. - Rob Diana
If bloggers write less powerful titles, it will force people to click the link to see what the article is about ;) - Nick O'Neill
I'm amused by the terminology of "hurt" here, like FriendFeed is poking blogs with a sharp stick. Yes, there may be a short-term impact on ad revenue. There's also more commentary and discussion about blog posts, which may increase ad revenue long-term. The existence of active discussions outside of your blog is a *good* thing. - Brent Newhall
@Rob - that's the point I wanted to make. You have to buy off on the massive number of page reloads by commenters to believe that FriendFeed comments undermine bloggers' revenue. - Hutch Carpenter
Hutch, I love it! The thing is, even if Allen's highly inflated (10x!) figure was right that means $10 million dollar+ revenue sites (large blogs) would be hit by 1%, but the medium sized blog (say $350,000K) would be hit by $3500 and the small blog (say $3,500 and less in revenue) would be hit by $35 dollars...or less. - Robert Seidman
@Nick - now there's a different take. Less powerful headlines = more reason to click. - Hutch Carpenter
@Brent - I really wanted to avoid the "killing" meme. Hurt is better. And I agree that discussions outside the blog are a good thing. If you were to be commercial about it, discussions = marketing for a blog. You don't just market on your own site. You market out to where people are. - Hutch Carpenter
Who cares if FF affects blogger's revenue? Any blogger that cares is not a blogger but just a startup MSM clone anyway - Brian Sullivan
Hmmm... well, if bloggers can't make money and quit blogging, what content would be shared in FF? Since so much stuff shared on here is from pro bloggers, I find that question pretty hilarious. I'm SURE TechCrunch doesn't care about revenue at ALL. - Cyndy
Like we keep saying to the music industry; "adapt or die!" - Chris Nixon
@Robert - You're right. The logic on ad revenue applies regardless of blog size. Conceptually, there's a relationship between blog subscribers and the number of comments the blog receives. So anything affecting that ratio should move up and down the blog size scale. - Hutch Carpenter
@Brian - that's a good philosophical debate there. Once you get paid for writing, have you left the philosophical origins of blogging? I tend to look at blogging as more a user-centered activity, not a corporate-driven activity. If you happen to get paid, good on ya mate. But at some point, these big time blogs (e.g. TechCrunch) look more like corporate media companies. - Hutch Carpenter
Cyndy -- I never said bloggers can't make money -- but if they are dependent on page views and advertising they are in the same boat as MSM media that they have been criticizing and showing no sympathy for, saying that MSM must adapt to live. If you make your bed you must lie in it. Adapt or die would be my advice. - Brian Sullivan
There are give and takes to everything, but at the end of the day I think there is a lot more "give." If a dozen people read and comment on an article of mine on FF it's worth orders of magnitude more to me than the pennies I would have earned if they clicked through. - Steve Spalding
Once again, a great demonstration of the rule that any headline which ends in a question mark can be safely answered with the word "No" :) - Ian Betteridge via twhirl
It will get really sweet when FriendFeed connects to other commenting systems. There is already some of that with Disqus. If comments are pushed back to the source article, they add value to the content published at that URL. Perhaps the killer upgrade from Friendfeed would be to have a widget that does in-place comments on any blog post. Actually that has already been accomplished with a Yahoo Pipes trick. - µnauta
