I think I need to take a screen cap of this. No Johnny W liking a TWiT post. Hmmm he must be busy today. lol
- Bill Heslin
Wow. IRC is so crazy. I think the story of the decade is surely mobile and email. The iPhone's popularity is huge for this. Google too.
- Elliot Christenson
Leo busy FF room today. Hey everyone!
- Bill Heslin
@Jeff cool, so no aggregators really?
- Caleb Elston
@Andrew Do you do much filtering on Digg? Just the tech areas for instance?
- Caleb Elston
Yeah the Tech page is set as my starting point.
- Andrew
@Caleb, No, I don't like aggregators. Even for blogs, things like Google Reader and Bloglines annoy me.
- Jeff Harbert
@Caleb - One exception to that is Popurls. That one's handy.
- Jeff Harbert
@Jeff Interesting. Is there something in particular about them you dislike?
- Caleb Elston
Yeah I barely look at Google Reader any more, it's just like a huge inbox you have to crawl through now.
- Andrew
@Caleb - Readers don't give me blog comments, for one. I also find that the look and feel of a website will help me remember where I first read something. Blog themes are also usually stripped out and made homogenous by readers. Don't care for that.
- Jeff Harbert
I've gotten nearly all my breaking news this year from Twitter.
- Jeff Harbert
I learned about Twitter on TWiT. TechTV and it's spawn are one important story of the decade.
- Jason R
Twitter definitely provides most of the news/links that I click on. I prefer the layout/design of Original Signal to Popurls, just a shame it seems to have been abandoned. Only annoyance is no way to turn off the popups when you hover on a link.
- Andrew
"we have some deep integrations coming with a bunch of different players and big announcements coming up" --Kevin Rose on TWiT
- Andrew Euell
anyone know if traffic on digg.com is still growing?
- Mark
I think the fire alarm is starting to beep more frequently...
- Andrew
Story of the decade is REALLY TWIT. I agree with Jason Robertshaw. I learned of Twitter on TWIT.
- Elliot Christenson
My last employer had a floppy-drive Mavica.
- Jeff Harbert
we had a mavica for a trip to vegas with the family. BACKUPS could be a story of the decade. Digital is now practical because of BACKUPS.
- Elliot Christenson
I know Carbonite is a sponsor but I gotta say their product for Mac really sucks. It doesn't backup video automatically! You have to manually select video files to backup. I switched to Backblaze. We should try to get them as a TWiT Sponsor!
- Ken Wiesner
Am I the only one that thinks location services like Foursquare are dumb?
- Jeff Harbert
@Jeff hate to disagree, but I think location is actually a core element to be shared. Just like Photos, Video, Text...location is next.
- Caleb Elston
@Caleb - but it's so transitory. So I check in at a bar - I won't be there an hour later.
- Jeff Harbert
People recommend you for the "Crunk" badge. :)
- Ken Wiesner
@Jeff that's true, but tweets are similarly ephemeral, but we now have much better realtime alerting systems so you can actually know about that right away.
- Caleb Elston
@Caleb - And it also does me no good to know where anyone non-local to me is. Scoble is having dinner at the Ritz - I'm across the country, so what use is that to me?
- Jeff Harbert
@Jeff, bingo - and if you're in a small town, who cares that you just popped down to the gas station in your pyjamas?
- Andrew
@Jeff that might be true for Robert, since you don't really know him, but if it were your son or brother it might be interesting, a conversation starter for the next time you speak.
- Caleb Elston
@Andrew - Exactly, which is why I think these services are dumb.
- Jeff Harbert
@Caleb - I'm actually acquainted with Robert. It still does me no good to know he's having dinner at the Ritz because he's nowhere near me.
- Jeff Harbert
Pet peeve - that's navigation, not GPS.
- Jeff Harbert
A TWiT conversation is going to hit best of day. It's been awhile. Love it...
- Bill Heslin
Automatic parallel parking is a joke. If you can't drive, don't drive.
- Jeff Harbert
I love that electric vehicle thing! That would be so cool! And I cannot wait to become popular P:
- Zachary TG
Fully automated cars would be cool though. Real life savers, since most people don't know how to drive safely.
- Jeff Harbert
Robert's is right Microsoft is just not cool anymore
- Kim Landwehr
I'd still like to have a full computer in my car.
- Jeff Harbert
Doesn't the decade begin in January 1st, 2011?
- Héctor
Dave Winer and RSS , Scoble names his child after RSS ...I may have to unblock you Robert...lol
- Bill Heslin
@Héctor - Leo mentioned that in yesterday's TWiG. He said he'd rather get a little email from correct listeners like you than wait a year and get 10x more from people who think it begins 1-1-10.
- Jeff Harbert
Correct. I remember arguing about it 10 years ago, but this time around I don't feel like nitpicking for that same exact reason. Sounds like a good plan.
- Héctor
I don't like the iPhone. I need a real keyboard.
- Jeff Harbert
Thinking of getting a Droid to replace my Blackberry in Sept when my current cell contract is up for renewal.
- Jeff Harbert
Yeah I'm going to drop my BlackBerry Storm - was such a disappointment.
- Andrew
Hey Johnny...Was wondering where you were...Enjoy your day!
- Bill Heslin
Please stop thinking that electric cars will 100% replace normal cars.
- Jeff Harbert
And btw, good old lead-acid batteries are just fine for electric cars. We don't need a battery breakthrough.
- Jeff Harbert
Thank goodness for holidays - this is the first time I've been able to watch TWiT live, as it's after midday Monday in NZ. Although luckily TWiG falls on Sunday here. :)
- Andrew
If you think about it most people spend most of their time driving to and from work and around town, a perfect use for electric vehicles
- Kim Landwehr
"earthy crunchy" --Leo Laporte on Kevin Rose
- Andrew Euell
@Kim - Exactly. We don't need 350 mile range. 80 is more than enough for most people.
- Jeff Harbert
you DO WANT Rackspace as a sponsor, trust me
- Mark
"tough ass particle" --Leo Laporte on the Higgs Boson
- Andrew Euell
great - I could understand all of the previous video vignette's except the bio-tech one ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
....and an overpolluted planet with 15 billion people. Something to look forward to.
- Jeff Harbert
aging a disease? Cure that, that would b awesome
- Bill Heslin
what about a cure for sleep, free of side effects of course
- Andrew Euell
@Andrew - or just make sleep more effective. I'd love to get by on 3-4 hours per night.
- Jeff Harbert
Biggest story of the decade - social media. It changed the societal consciousness.
- echostreamer
it's not Facebook per se, but rather the ability of any company to connect that many people on the internet: Orkut, Twitter, Google Groups, etc
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Leo thank you for another great year....Peace to you and your family...Have a GREAT New Year. We'll B Here!!!!
- Bill Heslin
I noticed on the TWiT youtube channel, Windows Weekly is watched 5-6 times more than the other shows
- Mark
As it should b Mark. it's a great show... :)
- Bill Heslin
Windows Weekly is 12500+ per show. TWiT the flagship is 2 or 3000
- Mark
The different shows all have different user/viewer profiles for live, re-run, download and now youtube. It's amazing to see the variances
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Well, I was just thinking about how cool it is that not many people other than MG are on here, which makes it a great back channel.
- Robert Scoble
i said i'd start using again once tweets went real time again. they have, so here i am. still would love to see more conversation like the old days though.
- MG Siegler
mg that wont happen - especially since ff is now thought of as a facebook testing ground
- Allen Stern
FF is a mine field for FaceBook : )
- Owen Greaves
Yeah, I don't think that will happen, Allen is right as he usually is. But we can get a few thousand people to participate in threads here thanks to Twitter. The thing is, why would I push traffic here instead of over to my Facebook page or, even better, my blog? (and same for Techcrunch?)
- Robert Scoble
yeah i have my doubts too. still love the tech and the execution.
- MG Siegler
agree - the tech here is quite amazing -- too bad the concept of this becoming the new forum never happened :(
- Allen Stern
Owen: all Facebook would have to do is add real time comments and real time search and then FriendFeed has no reason for being other than my brother's posts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
yeah there were some cool things they could have done with that robert. too bad.
- MG Siegler
Robert: Yes, the questions in my head is...why hasn't that happened?
- Owen Greaves
Steve: right. It's a good back channel. Maybe we should keep quiet and just use it for that? The masses are asses, my history teacher used to say. I think I'm starting to agree with AJKeen and that's freaking me out.
- Robert Scoble
Owen: it takes a while to make shit work on systems for 350 million people. Plus, if you were the FriendFeed team wouldn't you want to do that AND something else mind blowing? I would.
- Robert Scoble
this is public robert. not a back channel
- Steve Gillmor
crap this is public? i'm outta here again.
- MG Siegler
Steve: if there's no public here it's not much more than a back channel.
- Robert Scoble
robert - for all intents and purposes ff has always been a back channel - just look how intimate people have been since the launch
- Allen Stern
If a tree falls in FriendFeed and only the people participating in this thread hear it fall did it really fall?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'm not suggesting its easy or quick but they do know what to do and it has been awhile. I'm thinking its coming, something mind blowing I'm not sure.
- Owen Greaves
Owen: well, I'm sure we'll hear more about Facebook's plans soon. Probably on the Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
robert - i got my full pass the other day in the mail - sadly i am not going - i wish i could give the pass to someone who wants to go but the docs say thats not possible
- Allen Stern
Robert: I'm not, but I might go to Wal-Mart : )
- Owen Greaves
robert if they throw you out, just tell them you will complain on twitter - apparently this worked for someone with an issue with whirlpool
- Allen Stern
Of course, if I really wanted a scoop I'd rob Walt Mossberg's house the week before the event. He'll have one, I'm sure.
- Robert Scoble
Well, Apple does have various twitter accounts for iTunes stuff. So, they are a bit invested in it. No where near the level of say Dell, which apparently is making some bucks with their delloutlet account.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
steven - that dell story is bullcrap :)
- Allen Stern
Man, sometimes I wonder how tempted the UPS delivery guys are at UPS.
- Robert Scoble
yea robert - give up a great job with benefits for the hope of getting your name on engadget for a post?
- Allen Stern
Allen: UPS drivers get benefits? Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
steven - while they might have generated revenue from their promotions - the majority of it didn't come from twitter - but it's a good pr story - the tech blogs sucked it up quicker than a foursquare new city launch
- Allen Stern
I suppose you are right. I've noticed that the mainstream networks seemed to really love this story.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
steven i don't wanna hijack this thread but as a deal hunter level 5, i am happy to discuss anytime
- Allen Stern
lovely chit chat LOL BTW Could we discuss weather? for a change :D
- Lora Lufark
Wonder if the joojoo will tank after iSlate is released?
- Susan Beebe
used to use Clippy ,,, on the 3G .. new C and P works well
- johnpiercy
quite often, when Bette sends kisses in text messages it's much easier to copy paste when replying :-P
- Rasmus Lauridsen
I use it a bit, the "select" tool is useful for when you're typing and want to delete a large section without having to hit the backspace button umpteen times
- Bryce Roney
All the time. It's a necessary part of using the thing in any serious way. Of course, you use it more often when you jailbreak the thing and can run multiple apps at the same time.
- Otto
I think cut & paste was a more important feature for detractors than people who actually owned iPhones. If Apple would have included it initially, it would have immediately sunk plenty of anti-iPhone arguments. And I think that Apple didn't include it because they figured out the truth of the matter before anyone else did: it's not that commonly useful for most people on a phone.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Good question, I use it once a day. Glad to have the feature.
- Josh Landsberg
Akiva: I think Apple realized that it was less of a necessity on a one-app-at-a-time mobile os.
- Christopher A Carr
I've always had C&P on my BB and I do use it quite a bit really.
- Ian May
good question! less than once a week, even if i consider myself as a heavy iPhone user
- HansVanRock
It depends on travel but when away from the computer 2-5 times a day, otherwise maybe twice a week. I am with Rochelle, I never was hammering for the feature. I am quite thankful it exists though.
- Braden Douglass
I heard it through the bass line
Not much longer would you be my baby
You work yourself into a panic, bent outta shape
And then take me for granted like nothing's changed
All my friends are asking, why you're that way but I can't explain, the best I can do is seedtoday's Genius list with Gossip's Love Long Distance
It's funny, I joined friendfeed just to connect further with my brother...I got that for a time, but in a larger sense I connected with a community and discovered so many interesting people and so many noteworthy stories. Despite what I've written before, to Paul Bucheit and the rest of the friendfeed team, I will forever be grateful for the...
Amen, Alex. I have come to know more people through FF than I ever could have imagined. It may not be as geeky as it was when I first joined, but the community has grown & improved. Kudos to all of you (devs & users) for giving me that. :)
- JA Castillo
You are my favorite Scoble by far! (Sorry, Robert) ;)
- Jorge Escobar
Hmmm.. sounds like the speech that is said before the music is queued up and the lovely ladies come from stage right to escort you off. But Then again.. thanks are not said enough in life so say it often. ;)
- Uncle CW™
Micah, he has done a fairly good job of messing himself up but I was still hoping. Though I just read the AP article about the show tonight, I'm going to have to check youtube later for the song from the opening.
- Joe Pierce
Uggh...In Color won for song of the year? Extremely lame...Country needs to move away from the nostalgia for a country that never existed and in to the modern world...Thankfully people like Darius Rucker and Brad Paisley are leading them there.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Nope, he's singing about how his life is alright now.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
DO ANYBODY NO WHY KID ROCK AND DARIUS RUCKER LEFT GOOD MUSIC AND WENT TO COUNTRY MUSIC INSTEAD
- Rochelle
There's good money in them thar hills of gold, Rochelle
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Jewel did it too. I'm sure we'll see a Miley Cyrus all country album in 2-3 years.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Agree with Scoble about nostalgia for a country that never existed.
- Laura (hear me raura?)
Miley Cyrus already does country.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And yeah, it really annoys me when people wax nostalgic about the 50s, as if that was such a great time to be alive in this country...yeah, maybe if you were middle class and white...for everyone else the bus had already left.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yes, Alex, we truly live in a golden age. Sigh.
- Mistletoe Glen
LOL, Glen, I'd rather be living right now than in the 50s, but I wouldn't call this the golden age for America either.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And yeah, I like that song and the fact that Brad sings about the now and not about how great things used to be.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Laura, country music (not the more recent country-pop exploits) is arguably about migration, an emigrant/immigrant's experience of the loss of what's left behind. The accuracy of of one's memory of history is somewhat irrelevant. Here's a teaser to an interesting podcast (last segment of the episode) on the topic: "Finally the phenomenon of American country music's popularity in places...
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- Micah Wittman
Clearly the golden age is the 80s. Nobody can argue with me! *Turns Bon Jovi up to 11*
- Joe Pierce
"Yeah, when I was sixteen / all my dreams revolved around one thing / All I wanted was a car." Yup, Brad Paisley never gets sentimental about the past.
- Mistletoe Glen
Glen, that's not exactly the kind of nostalgia I'm complaining of...and he also is one of the few country singers that talks about the internet or what technology has done or that has acknowledged how race relations have changed
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And there's your Kanye West parody
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"For the average business or personal computer user, Ubuntu is one of the easy to use free Linux operating systems which makes for a much more stable and pleasant user experience than the infamous Microsoft Windows. It thus comes as a surprise, to have a headache with an Ubuntu upgrade."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
There are certainly some improvements, but some people may want to wait.
- Tanath
I've had upgrade problems with previous Ubuntu versions myself. Upgrading to 8.04 hosed my entire installation previously.
- LANjackal
My current workstation is running 9.04. I'm holding off on the upgrade since I had problems in the past of upgrading from 8.10.
- imabonehead
I should've stayed two steps back like I was but I jumped on Karmic's bandwagon anyway
- Anthony Farrior
IMO the moral of the story is that it's generally difficult to have completely trouble-free in-place upgrades on nearly any OS due to the complexity of current systems. Clean Install FTW
- LANjackal
from IM
I had a totally painless upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 on 2 machines. So, there's one data point for ya.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
how's your youtube video on an intel video rig?
- Anthony Farrior
from IM
http://flickr.com/people... bio: "originally from greece, she spent her childhood years in canada and the u.s. reading science fiction and sitting on the roof peering at the stars. when she learned that she was too short to fit the astronaut's suit, and as starfleet was not yet an option, she returned to athens and studied architecture to make the most of her skills in art and science. she didn't fall in love with it, though, so she started to look for ways to branch out into variations on the theme. she eventually managed to combine her interest in computers, her flair for teaching and her need to be creative by using, and helping others learn to use, CAD, writing textbooks, contributing, twice, to the olympic games with her own corner of expertise and dabbling in photography. tmt wonders where we (humans and co.) came from and where we're going. she likes reading about science, astronomy, evolution and philosophy. needless to say, she's useless at chitchat. her daughter...
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- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
from Bookmarklet
perhaps... but i started taking photography seriously -- that is, thinking about it more than the odd snapshot, in february 2008. under what definition is that not a n00b? i rather think it more a ploy to be just starting out and depict oneself as knowledgeable and experienced. besides, i really don't know what i'm doing.
- tmt
@tmt I was joking. My sincerely apologies if I have offended you in anyway. That is not my intentions. #smlapologies
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
don't worry... i don't offend easily. and i still don't know what i'm doing
- tmt
@tmt well I still don't know what I'm doing with everything that I do. But I trust that things will come together at some point. Related reading: You've got to find what you love / Steve Jobs: http://blog.seeminglee.com/2007...
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
i've seen the jobs talk. and he's right. i just wish i'd found it earlier.
- tmt
@tmt Quick questions: the bokeh - are they coming purely from the lens or did you do some additional work in Photoshop? I ask because in particular the leave shot, the blur does not appear to be coming from the same distance. #smlask
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
the bokeh's from the lens. in that particular shot i did some noise reduction on an additional layer and blended.
- tmt
@tmt thanks. It just has a very interesting linear line in the focal point. But as I have personally witnessed, the 100 f2.8 Macro does do amazing things. One of my favorite lens of all times (and posssibly the only non-L lens that I like) :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
yeah... and i'm liking it more than my 50mm f/1.4. it reaches farther and focuses nearer. i love this lens.
- tmt
I have the 50 f/1.4 and I don't like it at all. The color rendering is terrible. Requires too much post-work. But for B+W it's alright I suppose. The 85 f/1.8 caught my eye recently. Looks interesting. Many favorable reviews from the owners. See discussion here: http://friendfeed.com/smlphot...
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
that does sound interesting... thanks for the link. right now i don't think i have use for it. i've taken portraits with the 100mm and the 50mm i'm quite fond of and right now i have more lenses than i can use -- except maybe the 100-400mm big white -- and my 100mm is almost glued onto my camera.
- tmt
100mm as glue-on? Interesting. My always-on is the 24-70 f2.8L. Let me know what happens on your 100-400. Btw, did you photograph your stuff with the MT-24EX, or do you just use available light? Tripod though yes?
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
no flash. available light (desk lamps, flashlight and my monitor light). absolutely, a tripod and the 40D set on live view.
- tmt
indoor desk lamps? flashlight and light source is interesting. Any example of your monitor light in action? Btw, check out http://strobist.com - I'm not affiliate with them but it's fun. You can post to the pool if you provide lighting info. it's here: http://flickr.com/groups...
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
i've seen strobist, thanks. i never paid much attention because i don't use flash. i'm not sure what you mean about 'monitor light in action' but here's an SP lit by the monitor only: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- tmt
sp = ? Interesting lighting technique. I just noticed that my ipod has similar lighting cap. But yes the panels do light a lot. I had to shut them off when I photograph my room :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
I have an interview tomorrow morning. It's supposed to be for a contract gig taking claim photos for an insurance company. The first time they mention selling insurance instead of taking pictures, I'm walking out.
Thanks all =) It's not a 'real' job (meaning it won't be full time, likely wouldn't be enough to get me off unemployment), but it would get me out of the house.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Oh, and in case you're curious why I'd walk out of an interview for insurance sales: it's a crock. You have to pay for training, state certification, and then typically work commission only.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Glad I'm not alone with my anti-insurance sales stance... On the plus side, the interview is down the street from my credit union so I can at least combine errands even if I leave the interview early.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck! Hope it works out for you.
- Anne Bouey
Best of luck, Tina, and I hope it's a great job.
- WorldofHiglet
Thanks for the wishes all, but the interview was this morning and it was a bust. They tried to get me to sell insurance, which is on my short "Not Gonna Happen" list.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
:( sucks - and you even thought they would. Onward and upward, though.
- WorldofHiglet
GAH! Interesting though - my husband works for one of Australia's largest insurance companies. He started out in sales (inbound call centre), got paid for his training period and his starting wage was (I think) $38K + bonuses. No certification required.
- Mellissa
@Mellissa - there is a distinct split between kinds of insurance companies in the US. A lot of the larger ones fall into the category that you describe (I have a friend who works for one), but I've also had another friend fall into the trap Tina's describing. I'm glad your husband is at the good kind :)
- Jennifer Dittrich
I was going to wish you luck Tina until I read what you went through. Total Boo on that!
- Helen Sventitsky
After posting my resume on the major job boards, you wouldn't believe how many insurance companies e-mailed me with the "we have a perfect position for you" pitch. Unfortunately my skills and experience do not include 'Insurance Sales or Insurance Agent' or anything remotely resembling this type of work. My resume clearly states "Seeking a position as a Sr. Mechanical Engineer" What part of that statement do these idiots not understand???
- Jeff P. Henderson
Tina, I hope you at least got to make it to the credit union, so that the entire trip wasn't a total waste.
- Derek Coward
sportsguy33: Bad news: Sixers are mediocre again. Good news: their new unis look absolutely fantastic. Love them. Pantheon-level good. - http://twitter.com/sportsg...
I'm a gamer and a home theater "enthusiast" and as such, neither friendfeed nor Twitter have much to offer me, however, there's so much more to life than just those pursuits. I feel so much more connected to the world by being here than I have pretty much anywhere else. #WhyImStaying
You people are behind the death of quality! Ugh. I've seen awful pirated DVDs of mainland Chinese TV series. The compression is so high (to fit a ton of episodes per disc) that it looks like 12 fps video with sound that constantly clips. Awful.
- Andrew C
Would it be hyperbolic to suggest y'all are the worst people in the world? =) Kidding, sorta, but it really does make me sad to see over-compressed video.
- Andrew C
Depends. If it's just a one-off funny home video or something, then speed. But if it's a movie trailer, TV clip, web series, or something I really care about watching, then quality.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
High Compression = Sports, WebSeries, Youtube, online streams, free MP3's........ High Quality = Sports, Expensive Hollywood movies, Classical or Jazz music, anything with high production special effects (Star Wars, LOTR...etc.)
- echostreamer
"Mojo is music sharing done right. With just two clicks, you are ready to browse, select, and download music from other Mojo users. Plus, subscribe to the playlists of other users, and Mojo will update those playlists anytime they are online. Finally, all downloaded songs will automatically be added to your iTunes library."
- Matt Harwood
from Bookmarklet
If you sign up and install, please do share your username if you'd like to connect! (Abba fans need not worry themselves ;-) ). I am mattuk@deusty.com
- Matt Harwood
Just set this up, after hoping I could get some of my mates to install it. neurario@deusty.com
- Neurario
spent the last 20min trying to figure out how to make an FLV load from another domain and wondering why flash.system.LoaderContext doesn't apply to FLV files and cursing Adobe. Then I remembered: I have Request Policy installed to prevent cross-domain requests.
Request Policy is a fantastic addon for Firefox http://www.requestpolicy.com/ ... it prevents items -- cookies, ads, images, potentially malicious javascript -- from being loaded if it comes from a domain other than the one you're on. and it's really easy to 'white list' domains.
- tiffany