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I love FriendFeed but the fact that Bing and Google are making deals with Twitter and FriendFeed is yet another nail in why news makers will NOT support FriendFeed no matter how much we evangelize it. This is why if I were Paul Buchheit I'd spend every waking moment getting FriendFeed's feature set into Facebook as soon as possible.
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A question: Does FriendFeed have to compete anymore? Is there any shame in coming 3rd or 4th? I know people who shoot with Fuji and Sony cameras, not because they are the best, but because they like it and it works for them.
- Johnny
But Robert - news makers have never supported Friendfeed--
- TechFuga
Good point. They don't bother since Fb owns Friendfeed. Remember, FF indirectly already has a deal with Bing becuase Fb has a deal with Bing. And FF is now indirectly owned by micrososft ( thier 15% stake in Fb, remember). I wouldn't worry so much.
- Roberto Bonini
FriendFeed won't win... but there is no reason it should not even run the race.
- Johnny
TechFuga: not true. I supported FriendFeed and I'm noticing a ton of action over on Twitter that, well, simply isn't happening here. http://twitter.com/scoblei... is just a taste.
- Robert Scoble
Roberto, I was going to make that point also. FF is no longer an independent site battling for market share. They are a technology proving ground for FB with a vibrant community. ;)
- travispuk
I finally removed the FriendFeed desktop notifier from my computer. It no longer updates in real time. It's a shame because it used to send me a notification within seconds of someone publishing on twitter or friendfeed - something that the desktop twitter clients couldn't even do because of Twitter API.
- joebrooks
Johnny: the problem is that FriendFeed is going to be just a niche player. It's certainly not the dream community I once dreamed of. Not saying it won't be fun, but already the home page isn't the kind of things I care about.
- Robert Scoble
And, Johnny, that realization is quite different than how I approached FriendFeed five months ago where I was demoing it to tech audiences around the world.
- Robert Scoble
Do you not think friendfeed still wins for easy conversations though? You still couldn't have done this on twitter. I hate trying to talk to people on Twitter.
- Simon Wicks
We are totally going to be niche... and I'm comfortable with that now. The coming issue which not many people talk about is the fact that all my social groups don't mix. I have 2 or 3 sets of friends, with different social norms and contexts. I like being in a few different places. Lumping them all on one service, and feeding them the different slices, is just to much trouble to manage for me.
- Johnny
Err, Robert. You just said "I once dreamed of". Sure everyone wanted FF to succeed, but not everyone saw it becoming the next facebook, myspace or twitter (or even google). Where FF is now does not detract from its awesomeness, does not give us an excuse to ignore it and it continues to be, for many of us, the social platform of the future. Your dreams arn't everyone elses' dreams.
- Roberto Bonini
Just a quick look at some of my lists and I notice that twitter in generally is about 6 minutes late, and sometimes are published out of order. Is that just my computer, or the same for everyone else? Being 6 minutes late to the conversation is not helpful.
- joebrooks
No, but I saw it as being more important than it is today, which if you are truthful, is not all that important. And, sorry, it's not the social platform of the future. It might be the best feature set of today, but remember Pownce? It had more features than Twitter and was a niche player like FriendFeed is. What happened to it?
- Robert Scoble
@Johnny, what if something like FB allowed you to categorize all your contacts into social groups... not just grouping them as you can now, but properly categorizing them and then determining which parts of your news feed is available to which category etc. I see the problem with FB contacts is that it is mostly the people you are really close to, which also dictates the type of...
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- travispuk
J. Abdul: it's part of my own grieving process. It's also just my personality. I invested a LOT of my career into FriendFeed and now I realize that it just isn't going to be what I was thinking it would be.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I would say you invested your time into the idea of what FriendFeed could be, and that gave the idea a far amount of weight. When people look back at history and speak of the move to a real time web, your name will feature amongst the players.
- Johnny
Wrong choce of words there Robert. I meant, "platform" as in something you build on. This is a feature set to build upon in future social networks.
- Roberto Bonini
@Robert I feel your pain Robert - how many of us in the industry have had that feeling about some technology or company we actually worked for years on. But who knows what Fb will do with FF yet - none of us can see the future in technology. Something game changing comes along and bang, an existin technoloy becomes useful aain
- Arthur Coleman
Simon: for now, yes, it does win at conversations. That's one thing I will keep using it for. But that's like a sub feature of these things and it's only a matter of time before Twitter does comments. Facebook already has comments that work pretty well (albeit not as well as FriendFeed).
- Robert Scoble
J. Abdul-Qahhar: yeah, but part of my brand is to tell the truth and not necessarily what you want to hear. I got a TON of shit from people on Twitter telling me to shut up about FriendFeed already. My brand is about what's next, not what is, and, I also live in public. Which means I'm a butthead sometimes and that's also part of my brand. :-)
- Robert Scoble
BTW. Robert, thanks. You made me write that letter :)
- Johnny
Roldano: if FriendFeed turns into Second Life (which is doing quite well, albeit without the hype) that would be very cool and probably the best possible outcome at this moment.
- Robert Scoble
Johnny: that's why I keep telling you the way I see it. It might not be comfortable, but telling the truth ALWAYS builds stronger communities. Your letter demonstrates why.
- Robert Scoble
IF bret and paul are to be belived, FF is not being orphaned by Facebook. There are new servers in the works, some work has been done to the code etc. i doubt money would be spend on new servers if FF was being left to die. I'm sticking around till we see what paul was hinting at.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto, saying new servers in FB world is just moving the FF code to a FB server. I don't think any money has been spent, just space/cpu provisioned on an already massive farm.
- travispuk
Still - its an investment in FF's continued life. And i doubt they would do that, much less tell us about it, unless they were comitted to FF.
- Roberto Bonini
FriendFeed can't die! Things are so easy to put into FF (Bookmarklet) that newsmakers don't have to make a huge effort to "support" it.
- Nathan Snyder
Roberto: Travis is correct. New servers are just Paul's way of saying that everything is moving over to Facebook's datacenter. I'm sure they got some new toys, though, and that will help speed a little bit (FriendFeed is a LOT slower lately than it was a year ago) but my friends at Facebook say that not much, if any, engineering time is being dedicated to FriendFeed specifically. But I've said enough about that part and can't wait to see what Paul shows me soon.
- Robert Scoble
would be good to organize persuasive reasons for FB to nurture development of FriendFeed in the pure form we enjoy today. Thinking there may be some $$ value just in terms of PR - both internal and external. What else beyond that? What might motivate Facebook to actively support more open-source development of the FriendFeed platform? Could it make good return on that investment as a monstrously successful good vibe buzz machine - "the next Mozilla project"?
- Dan Freeman
Dan: open source community projects haven't seemed to go very far. Look at identi.ca.
- Robert Scoble
true more often than not - some do - but no need get sidetracked debating open-source! The Big Question to brainstorm is: what pitch can Paul polish to persuade FB to sincerely support continued growth of standalsone "pure" FF project
- Dan Freeman
Dan: the deeper problem for Paul is, where can he make the biggest impact on the world? Working on FriendFeed or working on Facebook? If I were him I would be 100% working on Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
FF can compete if news orgs can realize the benefits. Best way to do that is to see a competitor utilizing FF tools, gaining traffic, or doing something that makes others say "I want that."
- TheIndustryStandard
Another question for Paul: how can FF community help (even with the small but significant detail work - and bouncing spammers) ... what else?
- Dan Freeman
Robert, I agree, I can see a time when Facebook will be the equivalent of the telephone directory (white pages etc). Facebook is definitely where a difference can be made, especially with Paul's openness agenda.
- travispuk
"I would be 100% working on Facebook" - agree 100% - and Paul definitely has his work cut out for him there. Huge.
- Dan Freeman
Why is FaceBook so hard to like, it's laborious, filled with the wrong applications (Games like FARM, Friggin MAFIA) and is not simple in ease of use terms. I use it but find I spend too much time trying to figure where things are than actually get something done. I must have a learning disability I guess.
- Owen Greaves
Facebook is a nightmare when it comes usability. Looks like it was designed by a pack of monkeys with ADHD.
- Tony C (Unrated)
from fftogo
LOL @Tony
- Roberto Bonini
Yeah, college students. (p.s. I am one (a college student, not FB dev))
- Kevin L
I don't mind the 'design' of Facebook, it is relatively clean, however the UX is where it is let down.
- travispuk
Not sure I agree with you assessment. FF is a different animanl and integrating with FB is not something I need or want.
- Poka Yoke
from twhirl
IMO, fb needs to integrate ff feature set and provide much more fine grained control over privacy. I want to be able to have public, less public and private information. I want to be able to control who gets what information. For instance, if I share a funny link it's fine for anyone to get it including google/bing, but if I'm sharing my location info I might only want my family to be able to see that.
- John
Cjay: every single newsmaker I know came here looking for it to be a new platform that would take Twitter on. RWW even used it to plan out their editorial in a private group here. When I choose a new platform I'm definitely looking to use it as a platform for newsmakers to discuss things. I saw FriendFeed as being a new kind of talk radio. Actually, what has captured everyone's interest...
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- Robert Scoble
Spot on Robert
- Ryan Petty
I'll point out that today, FF features are in FB. The news stream is live (if you want it) I want the Status stream live, since I don't want apps in my stream and have made the status stream my default. FB is too cluttered, and the ads are pointless and annoying. I find FF far superior in terms of design, as I do Twitter, but I understand that ads are required for most websites to survive. I just wish that they would be nicer and less obtrusive (and that Friends would stop sending me Mafia Wars Requests)
- Nathan Snyder
sebastian☆rocket brother to sebastian☆rocket's feed, iPhone, All Things Google, The Apple Room: TNW Apple
Push Gmail now available on iPhone! - http://www.macworld.com/article...
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"Google Sync supports Push for Gmail, meaning that you can get your messages immediately, if not sooner (as my dad is fond of saying)."
- sebastian☆rocket brother
Woooooooooooooweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :D
- sebastian☆rocket brother
sormamak ayıp değil ya. push email ne demek??? nedir bu push olayı?
- HasanCivelek
I don't care much for push notifications, I can wait 15 minutes for the iPhone to fetch/push. But Calendar and Contacts syncing is awesome, I couldn't do that before.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Fetching wastes battery though. Push is a much better system overall.
- sebastian☆rocket brother
@hayati teşekkürler :) bugun onca yıldan sonra PS'de iki trik öğrendim. hala iş var :)))
- HasanCivelek
Unfortunately you can only sync 1 gmail account using Google Sync. I wonder if Google will ever support push imap..
- sebastian☆rocket brother
There are a lot of competing apps out now for this. Which is the best?
- Michael Fidler
Google's implementation relies upon Exchange - can we use only one Exchange account per iPhone?
- Bill Sodeman
@billso Yes, unfortunately only one Exchange account. That's totally sucks, 'cause I kinda need two-some.
- Кто это тут у нас
me too!
- Susan Beebe
@sebastian☆rocket brother "Fetching wastes battery though" Really? More than PUSH? Messages have to be pushed to a process, a process that is running *all* the time.
- Paul Grav
NetNewsWire 2.0 for iPhone, with Google Reader Sync, Is Out Now - http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpre...
Eric Geller, sebastian☆rocket brother, Wayne Sutton and 4 other people liked this
And about time too... Seemed ages.
- Michel
uTorrent iPhone App Rejected by Apple, Goes Underground - http://torrentfreak.com/utorren... (via http://friendfeed.com/iphoneu...)
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Playing devil’s advocate, Apple *did* announce at its OS 3.0 event in March that file-sharing/P2P apps would be flat-out denied, just like porn apps and a couple of other categories. I’m not saying it’s ok, I’m just saying this is absolutely not surprising in any way.
- David Chartier
But this is not actually a P2P app. It's a remote app for a P2P app. So while I can understand what you mean David, Apple still has (IMO) to be more open. I use BitTorrent to download podcasts, which is perfectly legal and does not void copyright. So this is not an 'illegal' thing.
- Michel
iJustine on CTV - NATIONAL NEWS IN CANADA - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Adam Savage Interview -- Have Mac, Will Bust Myths | Mac|Life - http://www.maclife.com/adamsav...
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Adam Savage is Geek with Skills
- Mac64
Speaking of Mythbusters, why aren't new shows coming out?
- Michel
@Michel: I think it's on summer hiatus. IIRC, Grant Imahara tweeted that new shows aren't starting back up again until October!
- Cheryl Jones
Kari Byron is also having a baby :) Probably don't want to do the shows without her for now.
- CannonGod
You reaaaally gotta love Super Mario Bros. to tattoo your entire back with the characters. - http://agentmlovestacos.tumblr.com/post...
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The Apple ad I was in in 1992
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I resent this to test out FriendFeed's email feature.
- Robert Scoble
from email
This was a brochure for college students back in 1992 that advertised the Mac IIci and one of the first PowerBooks. Yes, I used to be an Apple shill! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
awesome! thanks for sharing LOL
- Susan Beebe
My son was amazed. He didn't know about it. But then he was born in 1994.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Lol, that's awesome Scoble...
- Colin
you look like you were about 12 ....
- angela penny
nothing comes between you and your calvins, er, i mean macintosh.
- Greg Verdino
Angela: it was when I was in college. 17 years ago. Yikes.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
That's really fun! You've lived an interesting life
- Andrew
that's pretty awful rob. As Bender would say: "You come a long way, baby"
- Mark
LOL. you look too young, not 17:))
- Oguz Serdar
WOW! That's hilarious! What a cool thing to have.
- James Hull
Ah. 1992. I would love to go back in time to 1992 with a Macbook Pro or something, and show you some tech from the future and then take it off you and bugger off back to the future.
- Mark
You were a girl in 1992? Oh wait - you mean you were the guy on the LEFT! :) :)
- Lee Drake
Lee, I was thinking the same thing. :)
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Tiger Beat pose FTW
- Jay Cuthrell
Prasoon: Microsoft made the best Macintosh software back then. I worked at Microsoft from 2003-2006.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I was an Apple fanboi long before I was a Microsoft one. Funny that in 1993 I started switching to Windows.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
look at you robert! cool stuff.
- sean percival
lovely (and it doesn't look as if so many years have passed by the way)
- sofiagk
I rotated it for you. http://images.scripting.com/archive...
- Dave Winer
1 sexy pose
- polou/indigo_bow
Hmm....Hey RObert....I still have a photo of you in the Norseman that I'm sure will get a bigger reaction than this one! Think graba$$.
- Nick
Nick: those photos would be quite amusing! (Nick was on newspaper staff when we attended community college together).
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
OMG how cool is that?
- BEX
My son thinks it is cool.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Woz and I talked later about the Mac IIcx's. They were so easy to upgrade. I miss that era of computers.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I remember attending Apple's IIci announcement at the Universal Ampitheater in October 1990? Later in the day I met with Guy Kawasaki and discussed his ideas for a board game. I ordered a IIci on the developer's discount at just over $4600. I still have it and the copy of the check I used to pay for it.
- Mike Shulman
nice picture Robert!
- Jeremiah Owyang
Barbara Kruger style ...
- deerstep
Like the ad. I was testing FF email feature yesterday. Did you send from your phone or desktop?
- Nakeva Corothers
Interesting how Apple has always worked so hard going after the college/university student market, especially in the context of the way they dominate sales of computers over the $1000 mark now. It's not only targeting young minds, it's also targeting young minds that are disproportionately likely to be wealthier than average in their careers and invest in themselves.
- Jed White
This is great. I love the come-hither pose.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
WOW! 4-8MB is standard...
- Just Joe
Michael Dell started his company in his collage dorm room
- paul mooney
Ok, you asked for it. I am going to scan them in and post them somewhere harmful! lol.
- Nick
Just remember Nick I have a few of you too! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Cute!
- Kathy Fitch
Private tour of tesla model s - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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The Ultimate Mac Setup for Web Designers (60 Apps) « AppStorm - http://mac.appstorm.net/roundup...
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Very moving wedding moment (via TheKheinz) - http://leo.tumblr.com/post...
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NaHi, Jean F, Justin Hylton and 36 other people liked this
Their sense of fun seems so genuine; I could help but smile when the bride made her entrance.
- Antonio Yon
One of the best weddings I have ever seen. Lol. Awesome.
- Michel
Loved this! Have a feeling its going to go viral too haha.
- Mike
Do they have the rights for the song? I hope, so it can get viral and not be deleted by some lawyer with no sense of humour or by the automatic copyright infringement detection system enforced by Youtube on automatic demand by record companies.
- Charbax
White people are funny :D
- Joel Lovato
if I ever get married this is how I would want my wedding. awesome
- MercyFlush
That was incredible. Talk about celebrating one of the best days of two peoples lives. Thats the way to do it.
- Jim Bednarz
As awesome as this looks, I really hope my fiancée doesn't make an entrance like that when we get married next month.
- Tony Ruscoe
test
- Digit-tec
Nice :
- Fidel_henderson
REVISION3′S HD NATION QUENCHES THIRST FOR HIGH QUALITY HOME ENTERTAINMENT POSSIBILITIES - http://revision3.com/blog...
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WELL ITS ABOUT TIME!
- Leo Laporte
GOD DAMN HIGH-DEFINITION VIDEOS HOT DAMN
- Vezquex
LOL @ LEO
- Chris Heath
NOW WHEN WILL ROKU SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AND ADD REVISION 3 TO THEIR CHANNELS?
- aldenoneil
WHY IS EVERYONE SHOUTING???
- Alan Chamberlain
STOP SHOUTING!!!
- Fleagle
You mean, the ghost of Billy Mays.
- Fleagle
Kid Freaks Out After Mom Cancels WoW Account - http://links.laughingsquid.com/post...
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Live now: coverage of the Apple WWDC keynote with iJustine, Alex Lindsay, Andy Ihnatko and Leo Laporte. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
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live audio http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- detorn
Thank you Leo
- Erle Stride
Amazing. I watched this pop up and get liked in less than 5 seconds.
- Scott Ohlemacher
leo stickam is still down
- steve
Makes me feel like I live in the future.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Let's get this show on the road.
- Mister IQ
Now they're slamming Vista
- Simon Tracey
Keynotetweets.com is awesome site, make sure he gets credit Leo!
- Michael
No info on when these new macbooks will be out in the UK?
- Alan (Giraffes)
watching developments from Joburg airport departure lounge! Tim
- Tim Biller
Bwana.tv/live seems to have audio of inside.
- Hawklu
http://www.macrumorslive.com/ is autoupdating
- Michael Mooney
http://www.ustream.tv/channel... is working for me
- Simon Tracey
Apple stores pulled all the iPhone Displays
- Erle Stride
Thanks Leo hopefully we will see a new Apple TV
- CuriousTux
Leo, when you say a website - can you please put it in here too -- or someone ;)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
So far on track for Steve coming for the iPhone at the end of the keynote.
- Mister IQ
Why would Apple release notebooks without Snow Leopard?
- Ryan
Apple stores pulled all the iPhone Displays
- Erle Stride
OSx 10.6 today?
- Michael Mooney
Are we going to see Snow Leopard today?
- Simon Tracey
I can hear everyone.
- Jonathan Langdale
i'm hearing them
- Brandon Weir
hearing the stream on bitgravity
- Patrick Dunn
I can hear everyone, those are old posts
- Michael
We can hear all of them
- LPH™ and his dog P™
We can hear them fine! :)
- Alan (Giraffes)
Can hear them fine.
- Bleu Caldwell
Tell justine to move her laptop so we can see her
- Michael
I hear all of them.
- Ben Fiore
I have audio.
- Peter Kruit
Live keynote video http://bambuser.com/channel...
- Tom Sundström
We didnt hear the audio at the beginning, but it kicked in about 10mins ago :)
- Alan (Giraffes)
Hi Justine :)
- Peter Kruit
Yea we want a better view of the female behind the Macbook.
- Jonathan Langdale
There is still a white macbook. Non-white 13" is now macbook pro
- Pete Finlay
Thanks Leo! Much better than floating heads over macbooks
- Michael
That looks much better yea.
- Jonathan Langdale
All the better to get tablets!
- Jonathan Langdale
Tell Alex to undo that top button. LOL
- Michael
Safari 4 shipping today.
- Michael W. Sumbera
Tablets are going to solve the laptop LOS problem.
- Jonathan Langdale
Google Wave should make next year's coverage much better.
- Hawklu
Alex and justine need to up the commentary...
- SPIRE WIRED
oooooh 64-bit javascript speed increase! nice!
- Jonathan Langdale
I can't believe I have to go to a meeting now
- Darrel Davis
Leo, Macrumourslive.com have pictures.....
- Alan (Giraffes)
Darrel - walk slowly ;)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I'm not a huge Ryan Block fan, but gdgt.com has a good feed.
- Ryan
Hey all, Live Video stream. Listenable. http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- Michel
QT Pro needed for fullscreen.
- Michael W. Sumbera
MacRumers updating faster than Engadget
- PXLated
I love real-time social media.
- Jonathan Langdale
Revised MBP, nice... Now revise Euro pricing, $3,500 for a MBP 17" is too much!
- David Wright
from twhirl
That's Quick Look, not Expose.
- Michael W. Sumbera
Mac rumors seems to be keeping up the best so far
- Michael
A PR was just sent out from Apple that says Snow Leopard will be available in September and for $29.
- Shane Harwood
It's weird when we're critical of a company frequently improving their products without a large increase in price. Seems backwards, but that's what we want.
- Jonathan Langdale
29$ thats sweet, just got 10.5 and was planning on skipping snow
- detorn
Guys, the http://www.ustream.tv/channel... stream just got a lot better sound.
- Michel
That live stream is really bad, it sucks.
- Jonathan Langdale
$29 in comparison to Windows-7 skyhigh pricing
- PXLated
Well, it's something.
- Michel
That could explain the Best Bus announcement of upgrades for $59 and $99...
- David Wright
from twhirl
win7 pricing will be $50 for the upgrade, not terrible
- detorn
For 10.5 owners, $29.
- Michael W. Sumbera
September? I can't wait that long...
- Michel
$29 is amazing... well done Apple
- Simon Tracey
Yea Sept is along way off.
- Jonathan Langdale
Gives devs time to get things ready.
- Michael W. Sumbera
Is $29 really the truth? Any links to back it up?
- Ryan
also GDGT http://live.gdgt.com/2009...
- Chris Heath
Yep. $29 is truth. Pretty awesome, huh?
- Michel
I miss Steve :<
- Jonathan Langdale
lol, harness the power of graphics? Entry level graphics in new machines... :-S
- David Wright
from twhirl
@Jonathan These few months were just a test for him not being at Apple, I say.
- Michel
what about us G4 processor people? are we left in the dust?
- Chris Heath
haven't made a G4 in 4 or 5 years, time to upgrade
- detorn
Sorry Chris, it looks like Apple are not supporting the old CPU's anymore
- Simon Tracey
Exchange support, that I expected.
- Mister IQ
This is great news for developers. Not meant of users.
- Jonathan Langdale
"A PR was just sent out from Apple that says Snow Leopard will be available in September and for $29. - Shane Harwood"
- Michael W. Sumbera
I predict whoever is streaming that feed is going to get caught.
- Jonathan Langdale
Having to set up Entrourage or Mail with Exchange, built-in support is NICE!
- David Wright
from twhirl
I think more small business going to Google Apps going to def push out Exchange
- Jonathan Langdale
Exchange IS entrenched. So yes, it is great to have full support so I can get all my PIM data on my Mac w/out going thru hoops
- Jay GT:Blackfish 95
Temple University just switched to the google platform... something like 35K students... not just for small business
- detorn
I can hear the u stream audio, it's pretty crap.
- Jonathan Langdale
Yeah. But you can understand it.
- Michel
Now shifting to the iPhone
- Michael Mooney
Yea the home versions are pretty crap. Pro always better.
- Jonathan Langdale
Officially confirmed for $29.
- Michel
iPhone time!
- Peter Kruit
Depends, cloud isn't an option for many... Especially with legal implications not clear...
- David Wright
from twhirl
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- Jonathan Langdale
Family pack is $49? Heck yeah! That's $150 cheaper than I was willing to pay. Amazing.
- Ryan
About time to get to the iPhone ;)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
http://www.ustream.tv/channel... has audio of WWDC and terrible video
- Magnus Tait
those prices are for leopard upgrades only
- detorn
So the Spy shots of the Matte black iPhone were fake?
- Erle Stride
http://www.ustream.tv/channel... <---- Cali Lewis is reading out the audio Leo
- Preston Taylor
@Wrightde you make a great point
- Jonathan Langdale
@detorn Many people already have Leopard. I'm willing to pay $49 for the Snow Leopard features.
- Ryan
Wow. I might have a reason now to get a Mac Mini.
- Jose G
Playing a video of developers telling their story
- Michael Mooney
Leo, video with OK audio. http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- Mister IQ
absolutely, I'm there already. Just making the clarification.
- detorn
I wish they would play a video about developers complaining about App Store.
- Jonathan Langdale
As someone else said -->http://www.ustream.tv/channel... (Crummy video, but better than nothing. Audio is pretty decent.)
- Justin
UStreams seems to work fine for me. Anyone else having trouble?
- Michel
Developers (Airstrip, EA, Igloo Games, MLB.com, etc) talking about how the iPhone / App Store has changed their businesses and lives
- Michael Mooney
Uh-ho. Leo and Alex talking about Fieldrunners. Great. lol
- Michel
hate to admit it, but great fieldrunners tips. That game is crack
- Michael
Here's one iphone developer talking about their business and how app store changed their live http://cli.gs/cligs/new
- Jonathan Langdale
Video ended.
- Mister IQ
He finally checked his tweets, I totally call that one
- Doug
Argh, just how many times do they have to talk about APIs.
- Michel
I am a total apple fanboy, but applauding for copy, paste and undo seems wrong.
- detorn
@detorn good point
- Jonathan Langdale
@detorn totally
- Simon Tracey
MMS - later this summer?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
why not MMS now?
- andy brudtkuhl
I think that means we won't see the new iPhone OS until July.
- Ryan
This is not the kind of dev keynote I'm used to, especially about iPhone which is what is leading development.
- Jonathan Langdale
@detorn Oh yes. I hated when that happened on the 3.0 preview.
- Michel
Landscape near everywhere, only 2 years late.
- Mister IQ
Yep Ryan - I think so :(
- LPH™ and his dog P™
No word about background processing yet.
- Jonathan Langdale
Is MMS important with twitter?
- Ben
@ben no
- andy brudtkuhl
"AT&T will be ready to support MMS later this summer." .... they support it already
- Kashif Khan
Renting + purchasing movies on the iPhone. Nice.
- Michel
@kashif i know i could do MMS 2 years ago on AT&T
- andy brudtkuhl
i wanna see dual boot support for windows mobil 6.5...lol
- detorn
detornLOL
- LPH™ and his dog P™
@ben only if you have friends without a computer...
- David Wright
from twhirl
Note: emphasis on Parental Controls.
- Michel
When are they going to annouce Android support on iphone?
- Jonathan Langdale
AT&T supports MMS for other phones, why not the iPhone?
- Mister IQ
tethering is HUGE!
- detorn
Tethering .... Rogers will never let that happen :(
- Simon Tracey
Allowing teathering?
- PXLated
seamless tethering...
- andy brudtkuhl
Yeah. As a 3.0 Beta tester, I can say that it really is seamles..
- Michel
Tethering is cool, but I want GPS on iTouch with my own MiFi
- Jonathan Langdale
no tethering on AT&T?
- andy brudtkuhl
f that
- andy brudtkuhl
AT&T :p
- LPH™ and his dog P™
lol. Major hit. No AT&T.
- Michel
This constant buffering is getting on my nerves.
- WazNeeni
AT&T doesn't want you to use Skype
- Jonathan Langdale
WOW Rogers will allow tethering but not AT&T....
- Simon Tracey
AT&T #FAIL
- andy brudtkuhl
boo AT&T total Fail
- Kim Landwehr
Damn AT&T!!!!
- PXLated
They're trying to make up for flash with Javascript and similar technologies.
- Michel
I was just in Chicago and AT&T couldn't handle the 55,000 people at a soccer game. It was a horrible experience. iPhone on Verizon? I'm game.
- Ryan
Wow all those ATT users are going to be so HAPPY
- Jonathan Langdale
WHEN IS IT OUT!???
- Simon Tracey
announce verizon, so i can ditch att. No tether huge fail
- Michael
Verizon MiFi -> iTouch == Win
- Jonathan Langdale
I bet new iPhone will be the 'One more thing...'
- Michel
Haven't bought an iPhone (and it's killing me) but won't until there's tethering
- PXLated
Given the iPhone 3.0 preview was in March, I'd expect this all goes live about...now, right?
- Ken Sheppardson
No Esperanto? Booo!!! ;)
- Simon Tracey
I'm not sure how AT&T couldn't be a launch partner here -- really strange
- LPH™ and his dog P™
AT&T needs more time to filter your tethered packets for VOIP
- Jonathan Langdale
Damn it people, don't clap for stupid things.
- Michel
What if the phone is down the back of the sofa??
- Alan (Giraffes)
I lose my phone and can't find it because the battery is dead (edit: Agree Leo!)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Michel: They're developers. This means they get to build cooler stuff.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm not liking the In-App Purchases. Who's with me? It's just to take more money from me...
- Michel
So this is an API for developers to help Apple force people to buy through App Store more.
- Jonathan Langdale
@michael somewhat agreed
- Ben
WTF IS THAT SOUND!?
- Jonathan Langdale
can you "squirt" songs, ala zune?
- detorn
Can they simply get to the new stuff
- Bas Heetebrij
That sounded like hand cuffs.
- Jonathan Langdale
@Jon LOL. Wouldn't be surprised...
- Michel
I knew it, 4G iphone is going to be a iPhone Tricorder
- Jonathan Langdale
Anybody see any reason I should change my plans to buy a Pre yet?
- Ken Sheppardson
;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
the guy streaming the live vid, may be comic book guy... eating cheetos... get that image out of your head now!
- detorn
Are we all expecting 3.0 to be released today?
- Ben
They're not going to talk about background processing?
- Jonathan Langdale
No Ben - was hoping ;)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
3.0 might be with the new hardware and that still needs FCC approval.
- Michel
Ben, I'll pay you $5 if they release it today. Not going to happen. They'll wait till the new iPhone comes out.
- Ryan
Find My iPhone should be available as a one-off paid service rather than just part of MobileMe. If I really lose my phone I might be prepared to pay a small fee to wipe it remotely.
- bobrudge
I thought video guy was trying to get his medication :D
- David Wright
from twhirl
KShep, I've had the 3.0 beta and watching the Pre unbox almost made me cry. Why isn't Apple on the ball like that?
- iluvgimp
@bobrudge I totally agree. I'm not paying $129 for it every year just for that feature. Hell, its worth the price of a new phone :P
- Michel
But how many times have they kept it a secret?
- Michel
I'm thinking Doom, in real-life for the turn-by-turn. :-)
- Jesse Stay
there is a great Leo quote for the keynote, "I was hoping there would be news by now."
- detorn
Then get out on the trike Leo!
- David Wright
from twhirl
Maybe Steve will come out at the end?
- Jonathan Langdale
They really need to whip out "one more thing" pretty quick... ZZzzz...
- Ken Sheppardson
LOL @ David
- Roberto Bonini
One more thing...Waterproof TABLETs!
- Jonathan Langdale
20,262 viewers right now
- Ken Sheppardson
of the stream from the event
- Ken Sheppardson
Even the video camera & editing isn't going to bring this back... no tethering or MMS support from AT&T for "awhile" at least really sinks this ship.
- iluvgimp
I agree Ken - I'm starting to dose --- I wish Jonathan -- an Apple Tablet PC would be cool
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Apple tablet is not happening now. Not enough rumors. I say.
- Michel
I hope I'm wrong too :(
- Michel
question, isn't using an apple product for medical purposes against the apple TOS?
- detorn
This is becoming a waste of time... will they just get on with it.
- Bas Heetebrij
This is going to be huge to tap into the healthcare application market
- Jonathan Langdale
This is either a great stall -- or they have nothing to announce that is new
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It's funny because before the uStream guy fixed the audio, all I could say on Twitter was: "Oh! Something cool just happened. Dunno what though..."
- Michel
Why are they replaying the March 3.0 Preview event video?
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, It is a developers conference - rumors be damned
- PXLated
You know, you guys were nagging Apple like this last year. You wanted 3G, you wanted GPS bla bla. Now you're poo-pooing GPS and saying that there is zero coverage of 3G in the US. The beauty of the iPhone is the lack of a continual need for hardware updates. The functionality is not tied to the phone. Every version of the phone has the same functionality, only with different specs
- Jackson Pollock
PXL, but they've said all of this already
- detorn
I'm getting bored
- Jesse Stay
Books in app.store -- to compete with Amazon
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Jesse: Getting?
- Ken Sheppardson
not yet Johnny
- detorn
Not yet Johnny
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Ken, I have bored
- Jesse Stay
iPhone is not a good medium for reading books
- bobrudge
I'm a dev and this is all boring except the airstream health care stuff.
- Jonathan Langdale
iPhone.
- Michel
Where's iJustine in this chat? I know she uses FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
They are really milking this for all it's worth. Come on..."Oh yeah...one more thing."
- Bryan Brooks
OK, how 'bout that new phone?
- Bill Frater
there isn't a big history of "one more thing" at WWDC. And never yet without Steve
- Jackson Pollock
yeah... iphone is not for reading iphone... is there something else coming?
- Bas Heetebrij
As a student. I would love the textbook thing. It's great for me, as a student. Who has his iPhone in class most of the time (For educational purposes!)
- Michel
Is this just what we should start to expect from post-Jobsian Apple?
- Ken Sheppardson
is apple make a student only iphone
- Michael Mooney
You don't get it if you want a new phone. The iphone itself is merely a way to communicate and interact with the iphone OS. The whole point of the iPhone design is that it's as little hardware design as possible.
- Jackson Pollock
We've lost the panel.. talking about Tom-Tom :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Where is the iTouch news... where is the background processing...
- Jonathan Langdale
I don't know about you guys but I would rather hear the audio feed mostly, not the commentary
- Robb McMahan
@Michael Mooney: That's the iPod Touch. @Jon Please dont call it the iTouch.
- Michel
doesn't navigation need background processes?
- Bas Heetebrij
Ah... Tom-Tom for iPhone. Reminds me... I used to run Tom Tom on my Treo 755p. I wonder if Pre will have it...
- Ken Sheppardson
I've been waiting on the turn by turn since this thing came out! sweet!
- Bryan Brooks
I like calling it the iTouch :<
- Jonathan Langdale
C'mon guys, would you guys PLEASE hush and let us hear the official feed! Comment after it's over like they would on CNN.
- Robb McMahan
background processing is such a heap of mess. let's not forget that the primary market for this phone is mere mortals who don't know about memory and process load and everything else. They'll avoid it if they can
- Jackson Pollock
@Robb I want to hear the commentary from the panel one what's going on - otherwise I'd just watch the stream. I want opinions on what's going on.
- bobrudge
So what's with the hardware for TomTom? What is it actually used for?
- Michel
@Robb first comment on this tread has the link
- detorn
Anyone know the feed address?
- Robb McMahan
oh..thanks
- Robb McMahan
@Michel for mounting in the car, by the sound of it, power + sound + GPS aerial
- David Wright
from twhirl
Ken: post-Jobs? who's said anything about post-Jobs?
- Jackson Pollock
@david I see, thanks. But having two gps antennas there seems a bit of a waste (of money), IMO.
- Michel
Jackson... it's just that I haven't seen him yet. I suppose he could trot out and wake us up in a few.
- Ken Sheppardson
They're going to arrest the guy and cut the feed right before the iPhone info
- Jonathan Langdale
Hardware? Hardware? Hardware?
- Thobias Vemmenby
he's on a leave of absence out June
- Jackson Pollock
Right, Jackson.
- Ken Sheppardson
Will be available when 3.0 is available. Again, not going to happen.
- Ryan
Not today, that is.
- Michel
Have faith! The Steve will fix.
- Thobias Vemmenby
I've had it with Apple demoing apps. They do it every keynote now. Seriously, apps on the iPhone has become a pretty common thing.
- Michel
YEA BABY Iphone TRICORDER i luv it
- Jonathan Langdale
I'm wondering if BestBuy will let me return the MacBook Pro 15" I bought 3 weeks ago and get one of the new ones. Did they say when they would be available?
- Jesse Stay
If Jobs died tomorrow, the company wouldn't change much at all. It's the most fine-oiled machine in the technology industry. Jobs has spent the last 12 years filling the board and the senior positions with people of his own liking. Ive, Forstall, Serlet, Cook, they're all handpicked by Jobs and have been doing their job for the last 10 years.
- Jackson Pollock
Me too Lindsay. Original iPhone lacked too many features *I* needed. New version looks much better
- David Wright
from twhirl
new macs today, bestbuy or apple should let you exchange within 30 days
- detorn
Jackson: This event would indicate otherwise.
- Ken Sheppardson
This event is pretty identical to last year's
- Jackson Pollock
detorn nice - maybe I'll even get some money back after today's announcement :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse : Available now, I think they said...
- David Wright
from twhirl
I'm really happy with my 2007 MBP. Seriously, for me, it's brand new.
- Michel
I have iTouch and I LOVE using Skype and Fringe. I don't like paying cell fees. I only want GPS in iTouch
- Jonathan Langdale
It's a developer conference. For software developers. They're not engineers and industrial designers, they're computer scientists who are looking to make money from developing their applications on this platform
- Jackson Pollock
Apple stock down 4. Down to 140.5
- Michel
Intersting.....
- Roberto Bonini
I almost bought the new MBP when they first came about, but I got another 15 MBP prev gen for FW800
- Jonathan Langdale
Apple is not attending Macworld any longer, they're not really doing press conferences to release products anymore, they're changing how they do things, not what they do.
- Jackson Pollock
Apparently the market doesn't realize this is a "developer conference"
- Ken Sheppardson
Lol. Wave iPhone over stuff to buy. Look at that money go!
- Michel
is leo down
- Michael Mooney
Is twit.am down? Just lost it on my iPhone and it can't reconnect...
- Adam Jenkins
twit.am is down via iTunes too! What's up?
- Thobias Vemmenby
Apple shares, up nearly 70% in 2009, have slid during the presentation, recently trading at $140.94, down 3.8% on the day. -- WSJ
- LPH™ and his dog P™
also just lost twit.am on the iphone
- Michael
Apple stock has been down since market open, not because of today's announcements.
- Pete Finlay
Oops, forgot it is an Apple feed... My "touch" is an htc Touch Pro :red:
- David Wright
from twhirl
The stock has barely moved during the keynote.
- Pete Finlay
@ Michael/Thobias/Adam They've been having some power issues today. Outages and such.
- Justin
The stock always drops during the keynotes anyway and then rises dramatically after wards.
- Michel
Is there going to be a new API to search for Gillmore Gang videos/drama?
- Jonathan Langdale
Ken: the fanboys who put hope in every little detail they can find. The market is based on salesfigures and quarterly results. If there is no iPhone announcement today, it'll come later and the stock will stay the same.
- Jackson Pollock
@Adam, checked mine, its down
- zephyrlily
When can I unlock my car with an iPhone?
- Jesse Stay
Yeah. The keynotes are becoming longer and longer. I miss the short ones.
- Michel
WWDC is always 2 hours
- Jackson Pollock
have twitlive on the laptop via browser working, no iphone via twit.am
- Michael
Car thieves are probably cheering. That's sweet.
- Jonathan Langdale
and the last years it has been 1 hour of mac, 1 hour of iphone
- Jackson Pollock
Actually the stock used to jump up during keynotes, only in the last 18 months has that pattern changed.
- Pete Finlay
@ Jesse when can I unlock your car with an iPhone, better question... now thats some development!
- detorn
Have they done anything to nip the Pre in the bud yet?
- Ken Sheppardson
No new iPhone? They'd better after this snorefest.
- Ryan
Final demo
- Michael Mooney
So how do you actually start the car on Zipcar? Can it be done through the iPhone?
- Michel
think they implied the key was in the car
- detorn
Michel I believe he said you just push a key icon and it starts
- Jesse Stay
ZipCar website crashed.... not ready for the WWDC response.
- Jerry Schuman
Hah... Leo's view of the stream clips off the "Sponsored by DylanCombs.tv" from the top of the image
- Ken Sheppardson
This is not an entertainment event. It is a public press conference. As much as you would like it to be, Apple does not. They don't broadcast it on the web, they don't do them as often as they used to, they're not even done by Steve Jobs any longer.
- Jackson Pollock
Oh, you unlock it via the app, but I don't see why they couldn't enable you to start it from the app as well
- Jesse Stay
Does this raise security issues? (the Zipcar app). Stealing can become a lot easier.
- Michel
now i can phone jack to get your car
- Michael Mooney
Sure would be nice if Leo could get twit.am back up. I can't listen via my computer (I'm at work and my headphones won't reach to the computer).
- Adam Jenkins
Jaskson: You're making excuses. The tech community is watching this with expectations.
- Ken Sheppardson
Creating an app for your own car wouldn't be that difficult - you'd just need a bluetooth kit the iphone can talk to
- Jesse Stay
And since the jailbreak can insert daemons to change the functionality of apps, it might cause a lot of issues.
- Michel
Is there an app for internet drama yet?
- Jonathan Langdale
Michael, it's no different than unlocking with a wireless remote
- Jesse Stay
@jonathan iFlame is your title, someone else needs to make the app
- detorn
Leo or staff can you comment to the possibility of twit.am being back up? Need to take a bio break
- Michael
this is the first time i listen to twit live
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
June 17
- LPH™ and his dog P™
June 17th
- Michel
2 weeks
- Jesse Stay
iPhone OS 3.0 June 17th
- Michael Mooney
iPhone 3.0 next week, cool.
- Pete Finlay
Forstall wouldn't be the guy to announce a new phone. He's a software guy
- Jackson Pollock
Er, one week
- Jesse Stay
this with Leo from Twit right?
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Perhaps it's finally time for the genius in the room, Ive
- Jackson Pollock
LOL at Line6 accessory for iPhone. I mean, this is solution-without-a-problem territory. If you have an electric guitar, you can handle another small piece of gear.
- George S.
GMC out today, very cool
- detorn
he's there in the front row
- Jackson Pollock
Calling the TWiT cottage! Get TWiT.am up!
- Thobias Vemmenby
it's time to replace it....
- Jackson Pollock
Time for Steve to hit the stage!
- Peter Kruit
no Steve
- Jackson Pollock
15 minutes left in the keynote. Time for a phone announcement.
- Pete Finlay
Nope on GPS Touch. They need to keep the iphone and touch separate.
- Michel
What did he just say about Ovi?
- Michel
Call the Tech Guy, he'll fix it ;-)
- David Wright
from twhirl
in case you didn't know it, Phil is a marketing guy....
- Jackson Pollock
Here we go.
- Michel
Oh look... hardware
- Ken Sheppardson
don't expect a revolution
- Jackson Pollock
3GS.
- Michel
Looks like the 3GS rumor was right
- Jesse Stay
3GS???
- Ryan
Ken; they just replaced their entire laptop line!
- Jackson Pollock
S stands for Steve
- Jesse Stay
Gruber was right about the "S"
- Pete Finlay
iPhone 3G "S" - super?
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Linday : Sarbaans Oxley (sp?)
- David Wright
from twhirl
S = speed
- Michel
I don't see them revamping the design that much. Ive is perfecting it still
- Jackson Pollock
S = sick
- Jesse Stay
2.1x faster to launch Messages, 2.4x to load SimCity, 3.6x faster to load an Excel attachment, 2.9x faster to load a large website. - MacRumors
- Michel
Sarbanes...
- David Wright
from twhirl
No reason to buy AppleCare on my current phone. I'll just replace it with the 3GS
- Ryan
Anyone seen it?
- Thobias Vemmenby
@Ryan, what will you tell AT&T?
- Michel
S stands for same maybe
- Jonathan Langdale
Shweet
- zephyrlily
@Thobias http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets...
- detorn
I think I missed something due to a streaming refresh.
- WazNeeni
If they want me to upgrade from my iPhone 3G I hope they've got more than some speed bumps (not important to me in a phone) and camera features and spec I had on my Sony 4 years ago.
- bobrudge
So far, many of the rumors are true
- Jesse Stay
3MP
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Nice. Autofocus camera. Good for barcodes.
- Michel
@detorn thanks
- Thobias Vemmenby
yes for the cam!
- michael sean wright
Parity with the Pre
- Ken Sheppardson
this is like the sternfannetwork. they all hate howard
- Jackson Pollock
Only 3mp camera? Suppose it depends on the quality of the lens...
- David Wright
from twhirl
Wasen't tap to focus a Sony Erricson patent?
- Michel
Camera updates are useless without a flash. No chance of focusing on anything in bad light without it.
- bobrudge
I wonder if they're going to announce a video app
- Jonathan Langdale
good point Geoff
- michael sean wright
Loving the new camera on new iphone.
- Kim Landwehr
VIDEO!!!!!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Video!
- Michel
wow on the video!!
- michael sean wright
this is where you wonder why they put the SD card in the macbooks
- Jackson Pollock
video yeahh
- Kim Landwehr
So is it going to launch today, with 3.0?
- Jesse Stay
Will we get ShopSavvy on iPhone now?
- Thobias Vemmenby
30fps Not bad.
- Michel
Nice.
- Tom Landini
meh .. not enough to get me to upgrade
- andy brudtkuhl
no way 30fps, thats theoretical
- detorn
So close to wanting to get a new one, but AT&T's lack of cooperation is killing me. Still using my 1.0.
- Greg
listen to them melt. what did you expect?
- Jackson Pollock
since when does Apple bump specs at the end of keynotes?
- Jackson Pollock
I will upgrade my iTouch for the speed improvement and video
- Jonathan Langdale
i'm gonna say release date is June 17th
- Jackson Pollock
VGA video, meh. N95 did that about 2 years ago
- Jody Fanning
i agree.....
- Roberto Bonini
VGA is 640x480 not too bad.....
- Roberto Bonini
Finally
- Jesse Stay
Oh crap nice. Voice control.
- Michel
can we have skype video chat on iphone now?
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yep, I totally missed the actual announcement when TWiT Live/BitGrav refreshed on me automatically. That sucks. Anyway, can you make phone calls on the new phone?
- WazNeeni
twit.am seems to be back up now.
- Adam Jenkins
Voice control - Yea
- PXLated
Voice dialling......
- Roberto Bonini
@Alredo not if it's on the other side of the iPhone from the display
- Jonathan Langdale
Twit.am back up, thanks
- Michael
I hope the voice recognition is better than the S-Class Mercedes :D
- David Wright
from twhirl
could smell this coming from the Shuffle upgrade
- Jackson Pollock
It'll be very interesting as to what engine they are using for the voice control.
- Michel
Nice: control ipod with voice. Good for the gym.
- Tom Landini
voice control sounds pretty cool
- Kim Landwehr
I've held off on iPhone - Waited for Voice and Tethering - Now have it but damn AT&T
- PXLated
Voice will be software only, it's in the new shuffle
- Jonathan Langdale
voice for itunes! very syncish? ... love the who is playing feature! wow. come on! with genius.
- michael sean wright
I expect a slew of car kits for sale after this
- Jesse Stay
people hated the shuffle voice control
- Jackson Pollock
Some guy just shrieked like a girl in the audience when the compass was announced. lol
- Michel
Will the voice control work through the inline mic on the headphones?
- bobrudge
haha yeah i heard that lol
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
bobrudge; yes
- Jackson Pollock
they've had this on the iPod shuffle for months and months
- Jackson Pollock
Still not really sure why a compass is so awesome. Can someone enlighten me, please?
- WazNeeni
Support for Nike+, but do any of the us geeks care? :P
- Michel
agree, Waz... it is allright... but what's so fantastic
- Bas Heetebrij
@WazNeeni To be able to get directional services in Google maps etc.
- Thobias Vemmenby
i can't decide if i want this or a netbook
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
But compared to what?
- Michel
those battery and power engineers they hired are worth their weight in gold today apparently
- Jackson Pollock
sweet i can use the compass + gps to map out frisbee golf courses
- andy brudtkuhl
Alright you got me how much
- Kim Landwehr
what alex is referring to is the green screen usually doesn't handle water/ clear well. amazing g.s.
- michael sean wright
and when
- Kim Landwehr
how much and when and where?
- Bas Heetebrij
price drop would be GIGANTIC!
- detorn
omg they need a GPS in iTouch
- Jonathan Langdale
I'm gonna say $199 for 16GB on june 17th
- Jackson Pollock
OK, when?
- Tom Landini
Ohh. Price.
- Michel
$199
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
$299 for 32GB
- Jackson Pollock
yea
- Jackson Pollock
is nike+ an app that come with? if so can you delete it lol other stock apps cant be deleted right.
- Frankie Warren
32GB $299
- Michel
here we go - 32 gb $299
- michael sean wright
16GB $199 32GB $299
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
I'm gonna be paying $400 for that here in Norway
- Jackson Pollock
8GB, 99$
- Jackson Pollock
yea
- Jackson Pollock
32GB $299 with a 10 year contract with AT&T ?
- Jonathan Langdale
nice going apple
- Kim Landwehr
$99 for the older 3G iphone
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
that's the macbook move
- Jackson Pollock
Does that mean I can't sell my old 3G for more than I buy the new iPhone any more?
- Jesse Stay
agree w/ alex.
- michael sean wright
$99 is a great price, but is that with a contract?
- Jonathan Langdale
i'm smelling design upgrade since he hasn't shown it yet
- Jackson Pollock
Yeah. Really good move. We're seeing Apple really looking at the economy.
- Michel
The upfront price doesn't matter much, it is the contract life price that matters.
- Jody Fanning
June 19th
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Next week's going to be busy for me
- Jesse Stay
061909
- michael sean wright
June 19th at the store I'll be
- Kim Landwehr
hey, screw you Leo
- Jackson Pollock
$99 is bullshit for us that paid $300 for it 6 months ago
- andy brudtkuhl
leo - "that's it, not getting the pre."
- michael sean wright
shut it, design is up
- Jackson Pollock
Gah. What about old iPhone users? I wonder what people in a contract might do.
- Michel
@andy always happens to cell phones
- detorn
michel? renew?
- Jackson Pollock
$99 might make the first really affordable Smart Phone. But is that with contract?
- Eoghann Irving
@detorn i know but not that quick
- andy brudtkuhl
razor went from 600 to 99 in a year
- detorn
Are they going to sell it thru the Apple store?
- Kim Landwehr
No front-facing camera
- Jesse Stay
So $99 + contract!?!?! what the dillyo
- Jonathan Langdale
Or frontal camera as MG calls it
- Jesse Stay
Oh stop complaining about the old price. You always know that technology is evolving, getting cheaper and while also more expensive..
- Michel
Jony is happy with his design it seems.
- Jackson Pollock
there's a lot of geek love in that room :)
- zephyrlily
Will I be able to upgrade from the 3G? If not, I'm okay with that.
- Ryan
apple announces they now OWN the phone market - stock moves -2.84
- michael sean wright
Leo didn't think the Intel switch was a good move, Leo didn't have any confidence in the iPhone between launch and release, bla bla bla
- Jackson Pollock
Is this the longest keynote ever?
- Thobias Vemmenby
Is there a way I can /ignore Pollock? lol
- Jonathan Langdale
Yeah. I think its the longer keynote. But an awesome one. Snow Leopard + awesome laptops + 3GS.
- Michel
the real story today is that the guy streaming didn't get caught/thrown out...
- detorn
we are paying 600$ for it in India
- Varun "Maverick" Pitale
He put his Twitter ID on the stream...
- Ken Sheppardson
for those about to stream, we salute you
- zephyrlily
@Michel I agree!
- Thobias Vemmenby
@Lindsay Good point but people look at the upfront price more than the overa ll price.
- Michel
Yea, $99 really means nothing if it's an expensive contract.
- Jonathan Langdale
Given the fact he put his ID on the stream http://twitter.com/dylancombs, Leo, he might appreciate a shout out
- Ken Sheppardson
$99 is the apple price, not the at&t price... probably be free with contract
- detorn
We love you Steve, hope you get well and come back after the summer!
- Thobias Vemmenby
The $99 model wasn't listed as 3GS, just 3G
- PXLated
Wait - what was the software being used for the background?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
That was fast! Apple.com is updated!
- Michel
Conduit
- Jackson Pollock
Thank you Jackson
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Leo, anything mentioned in the first half of the keynote is OS 3.0. Only features mentioned by Phil at the very end will be 3GS-only.
- Adam Jenkins
upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)
- Jayesh
AT&T is top trend on twitter
- Jonathan Langdale
So whadya say, Leo? When you send your Pre back next week, what will you buy?
- Ken Sheppardson
Iphone 3G White is gone
- Jackson Pollock
$99 is a great price, I'm just not so keen on having to shell out $1,000 a year on a phone plan.
- Eoghann Irving
Ouch! Entry level 13" MBP $1595 in Germany :(
- David Wright
from twhirl
But 17" down to "only" $3192 from $3500 earlier today
- David Wright
from twhirl
you've had a 13.3'' tho, it's called the Macbook or Macbook Air
- Jackson Pollock
I still don't understand how you buy an iPhone on 17th with a contract or not.
- Jonathan Langdale
Interestingly the small print for the phone prices reads "existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)."
- Steve Brady
i wonder when the uk site will get updated, O2 (the carrier) and apples site still normal for me
- Charles Greig
So *upgrading* (which usually means at the 18 month point??) is 200 more??
- Steve Brady
$699 + a two-year contract is expensive
- Jonathan Langdale
So what's the lowest price plan with the $99 phone for a new customer?
- Ken Sheppardson
it's cheap here
- Jackson Pollock
What's "cheap"?
- Ken Sheppardson
your AT&T prices
- Jackson Pollock
No, I mean what does "cheap" mean? $9/mo? $19?
- Ken Sheppardson
i think (not sure) $79 a month is the lowest
- detorn
it's like $400 bucks with 2 year contract, and $100 a month for a plan with unlimited data here
- Jackson Pollock
If I'm honest, I think the Pre has problems in competing on features. I think the N97 from Nokia is closest and better in some aspects.
- Bas Heetebrij
Ok, its on the uk apple site now but no prices that i can see :(
- Charles Greig
why would i get a netbook with the new phone?
- michael sean wright
Leo, you could take questions/comments from the chats in lieu of calls...
- Denise Howell
Why would AT&T charge more for upgrading from iPhone 3G?
- Tom Landini
It has to be the N97 from Nokia. It has a 5mp camera and It is able to record 16:9 video
- Kashif Khan
AT&T are nuts about the upgrading... taking me forever to get the subsidy
- detorn
yeah, $99 is not really the actual price is it. I mean, the "$199" iPhone was close to 600EUR if you took the $2/month for 2 year contract with no calls/texts/data plan. If you take any other contract (here in Finland, it's capped at 100MB/month regardless of plan), you end up paying a lot more.
- Andy Patel
Upgrade pricing absolutely stinks.. $499 for existing iPhone 3G customers for the 32 gig phone. How much more can AT&T alienate existing customers? I also love how they make it sound liek they're doing me a favor 'because you're a valued customer'
- Lon Seidman
So no word about iTouch, this sucks for people that don't want a month plan.
- Jonathan Langdale
I'm looking at the new macbook pro prices and the 17" is now $2499. I think that is a lower new price.
- Pete Finlay
The iphone ad is up! http://www.apple.com/iphone...
- Peter
great coverage! thanks all
- michael sean wright
iPod Touch news is usually announced in September so it's ready for the holidays.
- Mister IQ
Leo, you must do a MacBreak Weekly with Andy!
- Pete Finlay
rogers hasnt either, but after what happened with iphone 3g last year, i expect 3 year contract and a lackluster expensive plan.
- mark pompeo
the interesting thing about the voice commands, i suggested that to apple over a year ago though the contact us section, altough i suggest this for the ipod specifically. i expect just a coincidence. they had to add that, almost every phone has voice commands
- mark pompeo
sorry to hear that Leo.
- michael sean wright
I was really hoping for background apps, and front facing video. Still, seeing all the other stuff makes this a must have device. I am just worried about getting shafted by AT&T in my attempt to get upgraded.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
Sorry Leo, it was a good show...although lost in the ethers...
- Bill Frater
thanks for the coverage though leo, we salute you for your efforts
- mark pompeo
Yep, great coverage Leo. You have a lot to answer for... I'd refused to Web 2.0, then I found TWiT, now I'm on Twitter, FB and FF, in one weekend! :D
- David Wright
from twhirl
I'm catching up on TWiT network, must be over 60 hours in the last couple of weeks! NOTE: Don't listen to 8 hours of Security Now back to back! Ended up dreaming I was decrypting files, manually in my sleep! :D
- David Wright
from twhirl
LOL @David
- Roberto Bonini
There is just something soothing about Leo's voice and the TWiT gang are usually hilarious
- David Wright
from twhirl
did we hear anything about a2dp for the 3G? for the 3GS?
- Alan Kroeper
alan, i wasn't watching too closely, but i don't see anything in this chat mentioning it - however there's lots of bluetooth stuff in the 3.0sdk so it might be in there... there's more news to come over the next couple days
- Chris Heath
It's Official: Palm Pre is Coming June 6 - http://mashable.com/2009...
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“Palm Pre will be available nationwide on June 6 in Sprint stores, Best Buy, Radio Shack, select Wal-Mart stores and online at Sprint.com for $199.99 with a two-year service agreement and after a $100 mail-in rebate.”
- Leo Laporte
"if you’re not really sure what all the fuss is about, I’ve got one word to say: multitasking." - yeah, right, multitasking for WebApps, glorified AJAX objects, which is all Pré is capable of running at the moment.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: Can you give an example of something you'd like it to run that it can't?
- Ken Sheppardson
Have you pre-ordered one yet?
- Aaron
Ken, no, in fact I'm all in favor of WebApps, especially now the HTML5 is around the corner with local storage etc., only wanted to underline the apparent inflation of the term "multitasking," which used to imply something wholly different where native-platform objects were concerned. I am sure Pré is capable of all that, and, with its own SDK, will in due time be able to keep pace with...
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- ianf ⌘
For anybody new to webOS, O'Reilly has a rough cut of the book by Palm CTO or Software Mitch Allen. It's available from ORA as a rough cut at http://oreilly.com/catalog..., and the first chapter is on Palm's developer site at http://developer.palm.com/webos_b...
- Ken Sheppardson
FYI, there's a Palm Pre room with lots of info https://friendfeed.com/palm-pr...
- JCunwired
Ian, have you read the WebOS SDK?
- JCunwired
No, not yet, if ever; merely some press reports. Decided to wait until Pré (a) migrates from vaporware to realware; (b) survives the first few months. Perhaps then. Life's too short and all that.
- ianf ⌘
Just checking to be sure all your knowledge isn't derived from Apple fanboys :)
- JCunwired
Did I pass? Was there anything incorrect in my pre-Pré statements so far, or are you just glad to talk to me?
- ianf ⌘
I'd take exception to "glorified AJAX objects, which is all Pré is capable of running at the moment", and will back it up when I have time to cup/paste from the book I linked to.
- Ken Sheppardson
I....hate.... rebates
- Bwana ☠
Ken, my "glorified AJAX objects" is, of course, emo shorthand, which as we all know IS the new English, so there! <http://friendfeed.com/bitchfe...>
- ianf ⌘
David, Sprint's Simply Everything plan is $99 a month, and includes services that AT&T doesn't offer (Sprint TV, GPS navigation, others). I believe for a similar plan from AT&T you're spending $30 more a month without additional services. Pre multitasks, has physical keyboard, Synergy and removable battery - and it's not on AT&T :)
- JCunwired
You don't necessarily need Simply Everything... I believe the least expensive plan with the Pre is the $69 Everything Data plan, which is unlimited data & SMS, GPS nav, Sprint TV, etc... same as Simply Everything... but with 450 minutes + 45¢/min overage. Sure, cell phone plans should be cheaper.... but that's not a Pre vs. iPhone issue
- Ken Sheppardson
True Ken, I should have pointed that out. One other selling point for Sprint, after 7PM its all free calling, and any calls to another Sprint phone are free. No more dumb assed rollover minutes, yippee!!
- JCunwired
Either that is a really smart more or a really dumb one (June 6th). It depends if people are willing to wait for WWDC or not for the new iPhone.
- Michel
I thought for the longest time it was really dumb, but I'm now thinking that Palm is going to get a lot of free press - for the foreseeable future anything written about the iPhone will also include the Pre. Damn ballsy of them I say.
- JCunwired
jc: bingo. Every time somebody says "Pre" and "iPhone" in the same breath, Palm wins.
- Ken Sheppardson
David: One of the obstacles to a lower price is a pesky little supply vs. demand issue... I suspect that in the first few months Palm isn't going to have any trouble at all selling as many units as they can make at the proposed price. If you can sell everything you make at $199 net, why price it at $99. Given Palm's history, I think they're probably much more likely to drop prices as manufacturing ramps up than those other guys with a fruit for a logo.
- Ken Sheppardson
David, Apple hasn't got much to be worried about because they by definition aren't going to dominate the market, only to dominate the most profitable high-level segment of it (which by necessity of numbers never will be very large in absolute figures). As for Palm Pré competing on price - you couldn't be more wrong there. Obviously, they intend to compete on some unique mix of...
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- ianf ⌘
Weighing out features, there's no reason the Pre shouldn't be priced equally with the iPhone. At least on paper the Pre surpasses in every area except internal memory at the device level, and the App store as a concept. Palm will do just fine.
- JCunwired
"At least on paper," noted. This eerily equivalent of the piss matches we used to have over the bus- and cpu-clock speeds of yesteryear, which OF COURSE had major impact on what people ended up buying. Personally I wish Palm all the success, because that would then mean Apple's forced to take notice of the rest of us (I may sound like Apple fanboy at times, but am anything but. I only hate it less than that Windoze gift from Satan to Mankind).
- ianf ⌘
No piss match here, just reality. Your comments have been so absolutely positive, how could we EVER think you were a fanboy? </sarcasm> :)
- JCunwired
Perhaps if you could supply me with few templates of to-you-not-offending/ "unfanboyish" comments, I might have a clearer view of what is it that you wish I should emit. Then the rest would be just a matter for negotiation over reimbursement level, channels, etc.
- ianf ⌘
David: I think for the first few months Palm we be able to sell Pres as fast as they can make them for $199. You can't sell more than you can make. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Just read that Best Buy will be applying the rebate for you. $199 at Best Buy.
- Chris Gardner
If a phone costs $171 to make, it doesn't make a lot of sense to sell it for $99. David - you hit the nail on the head, you WANT one. Now the task is to find the carriers with the best coverage in your area and compare plan prices. My guess is that Sprint will be the most competitive. I'm not nuts about paying $75 a month (after taxes) either, but with the features realized in...
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- JCunwired
Hulu will be available once Flash comes to WebOS, which was announced for sometime later this year (though it may be a surprise at launch).. Same for slingplayer - supposedly an app will become available. Edit: dunno what its all about, but Sprint TV comes with their data plans.
- JCunwired
When you view a smartphone as a computing platform, what you get in that little package really isn't bad for the $
- JCunwired
Awesome
- ralphsaunders
"then there's the shortage of handsets" -- That was my point. If there's a "shortage", one could say they're actually charging too little.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm quite confident Palm is and will be making as many as they can, as fast as they can. Whether that's sufficient to meet the demand in June and how the tech press will respond to inventory issues--if there are any--is yet to be seen, but I'm pretty sure that if Palm sells through their inventory they'll be very, very happy.
- Ken Sheppardson
When Apple ran out of supply, we got "Isn't that amazing, look how popular this is!". When Palm runs out it will be "Palm you suck!" :-))
- JCunwired
First (human) tweet from Outer Space! - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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thats pretty sweet!
- (jeff)isageek
from Bookmarklet
Very cool...Social media from Space! lets hope they do not let them Twitter too much!
- Lester Greenberg
seems rather underwhelming compared to, say, Neil Armstrong's first transmission from the moon
- Antonio Yon
the question is was the neil armstrong landing fake? :)
- (jeff)isageek
Lifehacker - DIY Solar-Powered iPhone or iPod Charger - MintyBoost - http://lifehacker.com/5242814...
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Gizmodo - Slide to Unlock iPhone Doormat - Unlock Doormat - http://gizmodo.com/5240017...
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"If you slide your feet across this doormat, it will open your door, but only after you enter a four-digit code. OK, I lied. It won't—but that's what it does in my fantasies, ok?"
- David Foucher
from Bookmarklet
Live now, this WEEK in TECH with Veronica Belmont, Dwight Silverman, and Harry McCracken. Discuss here...
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here it is
- Phil Maxwell
Hulu was great until they block boxee
- Fee501st
Public holiday here in Australia. FINALLY get to watch TWiT Live stream :D
- Johnny
is it because advertising is more profitable on network television?
- Phil Maxwell
Looking at Hulu.com now. It appears you still have to go through the ABC.com player in order to view ABC content.
- Marques Stewart
I know this is an old gripe but I would at least like to watch Hulu. Not only is it unavailable, but I pay $US80 a month for 20GB UP and DOWN.
- Johnny
a lot of these sites are blocked in Canada..anyone know a Canadian friendly site?
- Jeff Gignac
I use boxee for what it is. I have a 1tb my book with music and videos and I also love hulu and rev3. Now if they can get live feeds in there it would be the ultimate media center.
- ZOD
@Johnny I feel for you...20GB is nothing
- Phil Maxwell
I would love to see bbc shows on the net but im in america..seems that no old media company in any country doesnt get it...
- Samuel Lewis
from twhirl
Oh no, they get it, they just can't make any coin from it. These guys aren't dumb, just have staff to pay.
- Johnny
Leo, I read (listened) to Earth Abides as you suggested... I start theropy next week. You wrecked my outlook on life!
- Daniel Conderman
I also wish we could get bbc and itv content over here
- Brian Tiede
*drool*... I get 2 down and 0.5 up... Fastest plan
- Johnny
I use 250 GB of bandwidth in like 2 days
- Brian Tiede
I wish I could use 250GB in two days. Get me a bunch of TB hard drives.
- Chris Charabaruk
It's mostly because I leave the twit live stream on all day
- Brian Tiede
my bandwidth is horrible..i have hughes net...
- Samuel Lewis
Fee501st Just reinstall. They fixed the glitch with a brief 'web' view.
- Judith Gerdin
I wish I could watch the live stream.
- Chris Charabaruk
Ah, it's working now?!
- Chris Charabaruk
We they realize it's in uncapped line and mobile data...
- Johnny
comcast cares indeed...
- Samuel Lewis
Why was I kicked and then banned from the Stickam chat? I didn't do anything?
- Devon Blugh
Stickam is crap. Use Ustream.
- Chris Charabaruk
Charter 20Mbs, $60... I wish it was less, but whatever.
- Daniel Conderman
I wonder if anything wil be mentioned of topless chaps on FFeed yesterday, at some point. Probably not, but it'd be awesome.
- Chris Charabaruk
ustream wouldn't work for me at all, at least when I was trying to use it to broadcast...it just kept disconnecting me
- Josh Windisch
according to the irc chatroom stickcam is getting bombed..not really sure what they meant
- Samuel Lewis
Paying $100 a month here for 8/1.5 Mbps and TVoIP here in Canada
- Greg
Bell Canada has tiered plans... I got 60 GB (combined up+down) for CAD $50/month.
- Chris Charabaruk
I don't know what the speeds are for me, though.
- Chris Charabaruk
Awesome show today! Great guests.
- Chris
they're talking twitter, good thing Dvorak isn't here.
- Josh Windisch
Leo, I read (listened) to Earth Abides as you suggested... I start theropy next week. You wrecked my outlook on life!
- Daniel Conderman
Robert Jordan, The Wheel of Time series.
- Chris Charabaruk
and now the twitter hatters get to have a gripe..as for me...I love twitter
- Samuel Lewis
Twitter used to be cool, but it changed, man.
- Chris Charabaruk
WoT is going to be 14 books, "book" 12 is being split in 3 by the guy who picked it up after RJ died.
- Patrick Sullivan
Hey guys, just tuned in, what time did they start recording this week, we far in?
- Daniel Rowley
I think Twitter's still cool. I just am sick of jumping from social network to social network every 3 weeks, let's just stick with one.
- Josh Windisch
is Wheel of Time going to make me hate humanity like Earth Abides?!?!?!?!
- Daniel Conderman
Josh: Let's stick with FriendFeed.
- Chris Charabaruk
Chris: i'm not sure i'm fully grasping friendfeed yet. While it's really nice, it seems like it's not as stupid-simple as twitter is.
- Josh Windisch
Casper: no I don't think so... not yet anyway :(
- James Beake
am I reading your show right now Leo?
- Phil Maxwell
does anyone use the laconica sites? lol
- Josh Windisch
Why constrict the best way of obtaining media. Those who yell it's not reading usually do not read books.
- Johnny
If it puts out RSS, FriendFeed can hook up to it.
- Chris Charabaruk
'splosions! lots of 'slosions! lol
- Josh Windisch
I think that Apple making Macs dependent on their own custom chips could backfire on them.
- Chris Charabaruk
Casper: oh yeah good point i didn't think of army.twit.tv! i am not sure what he's using for that.
- Josh Windisch
It's probably for their portable hardware, because I'm sure they don't want to deal with the hell that is forcing custom hardware dependencies.
- Chris Charabaruk
i sure hope it's not the beginning of the end for desktop systems, i sure like using desktops a lot more than friggin phones.
- Josh Windisch
What time did they start recording this week?
- Daniel Rowley
Amen to that, Josh.
- Chris Charabaruk
shortly after 6:00 Eastern
- Devon Blugh
@Daniel I think about 12 after
- Phil Maxwell
how is running windows 7
- zac
When I can run Lightroom on a phone, I'll believe you :P
- Johnny
I would take a 24" monoitor a lot more than a phone
- Greg
Devon, Phil: Thank you.
- Daniel Rowley
Hmm sure cloud interface.. especially useful in the country
- Greg
OnLive can only survive with the support of the ISPs and a lack of network neutrality.
- Chris Charabaruk
Ok l;eo but what about outisde of their network??? How are they priotizing traffic elsewhere?
- Greg
Multiplayer on the one TV?
- Johnny
One word traceroute
- Greg
Greg: If OnLive can set up their system in each service provider's data centre, you'd not have to prioritize elsewhere.
- Chris Charabaruk
I am in Canada here and it will be years before that happens here
- Greg
trouble with gmail 15% of the time? That seems very high...I rarely have trouble with gmail/google afd
- Phil Maxwell
Greg: You sure?
- Chris Charabaruk
Are you in Canada Chris?
- Greg
But what about the all the people in the world who don't have phones/PCs? That is where the major coin is
- Johnny
Just east of Toronto.
- Chris Charabaruk
I am in Winnipeg.. two main providers Shaw and MTS here thats it
- Greg
what about the mere fact that people enjoy using this form factor (a desktop, or laptop computer) to do all these things though? i can't imagine a world of just phones & small screens like that. Sounds like technology might allow for that but i don't know if everyone would want it.
- Josh Windisch
Bell and Rogers here
- Chris Charabaruk
I LOVE Veronica Belmont
- Johnny
I thought the future is 7 seconds from now?
- Devon Blugh
I am going to get the Dell touch screen for the living room so i can surf/touch and use my own internal web based home management system instead of the laptop i am using now with keyboard/mouse
- Jeff Gignac
Hey Leo! Loved your chat about SSD the other day. Has anyone filled a Drobo or Drobo Pro with SSD yet? How cool would that be? :-)
- Dave Pan-Rios
Nintendo Wii?
- Johnny
Pets on Twitter!
- Chris Charabaruk
The Pre is Palm's last chance.
- Chris Charabaruk
If it works well, Palm is made of gold. If it doesn't, Palm is done.
- Chris Charabaruk
what did she say her cat's twitter name was? i want to add the cat.
- Josh Windisch
I wonder how long after general release that the Pre will be available in Canada.
- Chris Charabaruk
@MrLittlePants or something.
- Chris Charabaruk
Does it have any appeal beyond the early adopters. My wife is getting an iPhone
- Johnny
beat to it
- Simon Wicks
Jeans, not pants, k.
- Chris Charabaruk
thanks guys haha. enabling my ridiculous twitter addiction. Now i'm tweeting with cats & dogs as well as people.
- Josh Windisch
you have sockington Josh?
- Simon Wicks
Is it true the Palm Pre costs about $180 to make?
- Devon Blugh
They didn't have a 'CEOlebrity' to hype it. Google isn't a marketable brand in the real work (yet)
- Johnny
I've just about stopped paying attention to twitter all together. Technically I still have TwitterFox installed at the bottom of my browser, but I'm paying less attention to it all the time.
- Tony Miller
I love my Kindle too
- Phil Maxwell
its the Silver Surfers
- Dave Pan-Rios
Love my Kindle2. Gave away my Kindle first.
- Judith Gerdin
The amazon ebook store pricing...not so much. The last 3 books I bought were more for the kindle book than the paperback. Ridiculous
- Phil Maxwell
now we're into the US only part of the show... rest of the world go make a cup of tea ;)
- James Beake
@Judith Gerdin thanks! i will do that!
- Fee501st
Probably should have linked to the podcast earlier in the thread...
- Rah-PM 2012
Simon: what's sockington?
- Josh Windisch
I just gave away a 'xerox' box full of hard copy books. The Kindle is such a relief.
- Judith Gerdin
Josh: The most followed animal on Twitter http://twitter.com/sockington
- Simon Wicks
You guys are having a hard time competing with Veronica :)
- Mattb4rd
not going to bother with kindle until they bring out a color version
- Dave Pan-Rios
If Apple really does do a tablet, there is your color 'Kindle.'
- Judith Gerdin
Someone broke WinZip
- Johnny
evening folks
- G Dub of the Carolinas
an Apple tablet wouldn't have eink tho
- Phil Maxwell
Who is 'Dan Kayvan'? I have an invite for subscription, but cannot id him.
- Judith Gerdin
Mmmm, Apple Kindle in color. All my technical manuals can go on there straight away
- Dave Pan-Rios
WinZip broke Winzip
- Devon Blugh
well i'm following sockington now.
- Josh Windisch
who's the guy bottom rigght on skypasaurus?
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Harry McKracin(sp?)
- Phil Maxwell
Gunny: Harry McCracken
- Chris
thx he seems nerdier than the avg twit guest :p
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Gunny: He is from technologizer.com
- Chris
this is tough without my 20 inch screen twit + FF chat. My iMac is sick
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Vero is playing WOW, Harry is installing windows 7 on a netbook. is anyone paying attention to the show? :)
- Phil Maxwell
TWIT: Don't ctrap it up
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Phil, we're paying attention...aren't we? ...Anybody?...LOL
- Devon Blugh
Have shirtless memes on FF been discussed? :))
- JCunwired
I played with a Mac book pro today. seriously drool worthy
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Gunny: they're expensive, but worth it
- Phil Maxwell
I'm limping along on the netbook til my imac is repaired
- G Dub of the Carolinas
I bought the one i'm in right now not too long before the new models came out...resale value dropped like a rock :(
- Phil Maxwell
my 20 inch aluminum imac isnt holding the value I expected either
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Where the hell do you find a 2TB drive for $150 bucks?
- Ryan
I have a bucket and a pile of sand... I love my .tv domains!
- Johnny
@Ryan I was wondering the same thing
- Phil Maxwell
I think the Island in question is Gilligan's
- Devon Blugh
They don't use the internets on that island anyways
- Phil Maxwell
YAY! Come here!
- Johnny
found the 1 TB for 90 http://www.amazon.com/Western...
- G Dub of the Carolinas
It happened in Australia many years ago as well Leo
- Threepwood
she is appointed by the Prime Minister
- Jeff Gignac
We have our own Constitution. It means nothing. Some of the laws are holdovers.
- Gregg Scott
The GG is named by the Queen, following the Prime Minister's advice
- Thomas James
Hahaha... imagine them listening to this bit!!!
- Johnny
she is right..it is symbolic...because we have our own charter/etc.
- Jeff Gignac
Elizabeth II is technically Queen of Canada
- Thomas James
oh no the australian accent hahahaha
- Josh Windisch
Twitter Killer will essentially make TWiT into a 7 minute podcast
- Devon Blugh
Sounds like a cockney
- James Beake
ooooh
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Get over yourselves. Twitter is here stay. Micro-messaging is the Internet.
- Gregg Scott
Twitter: Like sending fan mail to Ringo Starr
- Johnny
do they return two months after?
- Phil Maxwell
It took about 4-5 months for me to get it too
- Phil Maxwell
Wow, they just dumped on Scoble.
- Mattb4rd
I did the same as leo I signed up 2 ish years ago and left it went back about 8 mos ago
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Johnny - sometimes its like receiving fan mail from Ringo Starr - totally senseless :)
- JCunwired
facebook is looking morelike FF if u ask me
- G Dub of the Carolinas
don't get me wrong, I love Ringo, but
- JCunwired
i'm not as fond of facebook, but their new "pirate" language is pretty darn funny.
- Josh Windisch
yeah I liked that too
- G Dub of the Carolinas
'Dialouge' is the key. No interaction is no interaction, no matter the domain name.
- Johnny
Twitter is a broadcast medium, while FriendFeed is a discussion medium
- Phil Essing
I use twitter more as an IM service
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Also, I don't want to mix the two. Two services for different parts of my life
- Johnny
I don't hang out with all of my friends at the same time
- Johnny
I use both services equally to hit on chicks.
- Gregg Scott
Same here Johnny
- JCunwired
i think facebook's new changes are a mistake, I agree with Veronica on this one it should just be what it used to be--just be a platform to organize the people you already know.
- Josh Windisch
I'm subbed to breaking news on friendfeed
- G Dub of the Carolinas
Most people use Twitter to say what they had for breakfast. Some people use Facebook to say in detail what they had for breakfast
- Devon Blugh
Facebook is for throwing sheep at people.
- Eric
lol
- G Dub of the Carolinas
There's a real trust issue users have with Facebook that they will never overcome.
- Gregg Scott
Beronica Velmont!
- Gregg Scott
There has been a serious lack of platforms that allow you to throw sheep at people, and facebook has succeeded in that niche, you're right Eric!
- Josh Windisch
+Josh. Niche filled. Find your own damn niche!
- Eric
tinyurl.com/christopherrodriguez Wow! I wish I could go
- Devon Blugh
No need to search Leo, they are all on the front page of the iTunes store, LOL!
- Eric
Awesome show today! Great guests.
- Chris
Good show, very nice.
- Eric
Great show Leo - first time I caught it live!
- Bill
What's the deal with the flooding in the Stickam chat? And some people been banned for 24 hours too
- Devon Blugh
DDos hit a bunch of sites today.
- Eric
TWiT: I Frackin' Love It.
- Gregg Scott
TWIT 193: God save the Queen... and frakkin Tuvalu!
- Phil Essing
i like listening to these podcasts though in the car when i commute back and forth to work.
- Josh Windisch
twit-conversations MYST! MYST! MYST!
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
Toodle-oo Tuvalu
- Mattb4rd
twit-conversations PUT THE FRAKING MYST ON!!!!!!
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
Can we do a Yo Dawg I put some Frak in your TWiT... nevermind.
- Eric
TWiT 193: Tuvalu in the Myst
- Devon Blugh
twit-conversations myst!
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
Tv's sunk?
- Johnny
twit-conversations thx!
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
Couple Of The Future
- Johnny
How could TWiT be sinking AND Jumping the Shark at the same time?
- Devon Blugh
toodaloo to Tuvalu
- Jeff Gignac
TV is history
- James Beake
The listeners in Tuvalu will hate Leo if he uses toodaloo Tuvalu as the title...all 4 of them
- Devon Blugh
twit.atlantis
- k. chan
i like mine...its good aliteration :)
- Jeff Gignac
good show.....Leo
- B D Wood
Great show.....Thanks Leo
- Brian Kirby
I love the cottage; loving the Victorian style.
- shelter watch
Craftsman style is so classy.
- shelter watch
It looks like your den, not a studio
- Johnny
Get the Interior Design Department at one of the colleges to make your studio a project.
- shelter watch
I'd love to go visit the studio sometime when I travel to San Jose. I wonder if Leo takes people off the street. I'll bring good wine! ;)
- JCunwired
Could you imagine the geeky 'behind the hosts window' hacks
- Johnny
twit-conversations make the middle independent of the border of the circle
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
leo showed his ph no. on the video feed accidentily
- James Beake
twit-conversations oh man! I really did wanna see Myst :(
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
DUG THE SHOW FROM GEORIA THE SUNNY SOUTH LUV YA
- daveccorey
Who is that?
- Daniel Conderman
twitconversations YAY!
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
twitconversations MAN! Two Leo´s ! :D
- Daniel Wolff
from IM
Can we handle two Leo's? seems like one is plenty, my head would probably explode with 2.
- Aaron Bronander
MABEY ITS THE STORMS OR SOMETHING
- daveccorey
HEARING U FINE ISEEING U FIVE IN GEORGIA LEO
- daveccorey
Lesson learned: don't try to jailbreak an iPhone with little free space. Restoring. I'll try Pwnage when there's a little more free space.
Jeff Carter, Daniel Rowley, Valley and 17 other people liked this
What made you decide to JB?
- G Dub of the Carolinas
yeah, you gotta have space. whoopsie!
- Josh Haley
just re-jailbroke mine, tethering & copy+paste FTW!
- Jayesh
Doesn't AT&T know you are tethering and charge you extra? It's a rumor I heard, at this point.
- Josh Haley
What apps did you install after JB?
- Doug Sampley
Why were you trying to jailbreak, Leo?
- Lise
I tried pwning a couple of months ago but pwnage wouldn't work on the new MBPs. Has this changed? [Edit] Assuming you used your mac of course.
- The Fat Oracle
Used QuickPwn on the Mac - had to install old USB drivers on 10.5.6 for DFU to work, but it was easy enough.
- Leo Laporte
Have you tried the 3.0 betas yet?
- Patrick Jordan
I used QuickPwn and it works good. I like it for running Apps in the background and ability to record video!
- Philip Mikaelian
as Leo said, QuickPwn is the trick, as to why would one Jailbreak? Really now, why wouldn't one Jailbreak and utilize ones iPhone to it's full potential?
- Jerry O'Connell
Eye-Fi's 4GB WiFi SDHC cards start to ship out - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
Gordon Wheeler, Alex Sauceda, Kiran Patchigolla and 14 other people liked this
Great concept, initial effort. Like that one can use wifi vs. proprietary 3G to transmit content. Also enables use of higher end devices vs. low end cell phone type cameras--yet enjoy similar real (or near real) time transmission. .
- JimmyJet
Too bad they don't produce cards that include GPS tagging (not sure if that is even possible) but it would be a great product.
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, the Eye-Fi Explore does support GeoTagging.
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Mike via GPS?
- Brian Sullivan
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