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前些日子刻的树德。魔兽中最爱角色。希望它能给某些砖家电击治疗一下，好让他们正常点。 - http://www.douban.com/online...
呵呵 有点像。支持原创
- kelvin
是截屏照着画的。
- Carloe Stamp
玩魔兽的时候喜欢小德满世界乱逛
- Roger.Wei
WOW里最爱杀这种了，因为倒下的样子很滑稽。
- 疯狂的糯米
刚玩的时候在精灵老窝抬头看那几个老树,看得脖子都酸了
- Damon
看来大家都是老玩家了。
- Carloe Stamp
我只玩warcraft 对战
- ashbee
wow
- kelvin
中译版: Techcrunch长篇曝光twitter内部战略, Twitter内部战略曝光：做“地球的脉搏” - 译言翻译 - http://www.yeeyan.com/article...
这个译文有缺漏，最好看原文：http://bit.ly/xsxQA
- Neo Lee
我所爱戴的CG-2D concept artist -Craig Mullins,希望自己离他越来越近 http://www.goodbrush.com/ - http://www.023bbs.com.cn/read...
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laogao, pala, 拓 | wavesand and 2 other people liked this
光影和笔触的熟练应用，你可窥视到现代CG艺术的前沿
- kelvin
from Bookmarklet
点击 quick tour http://www.goodbrush.com/
- kelvin
ff上有两种很常见话题极少提及（又一想，其实很多话题都极少提及），也就是内容，信息高度集中，说明ff用户相当的缺乏多样性。
什么是两种常见话题？
- kelvin
体育（运动），投资（经济）
- Paul
英文用户讨论体育还是很多的，前不久的NBA总决赛，最近的温网，都很热烈；投资倒是少见..
- K.D.
我是指中文用户
- Paul
中文用户太少：）
- K.D.
最近刚结束的联合会杯，温网都极少提及，真是不可想象。
- Paul
中国体育没什么值得关注的吧？关注自身健身更多些吧？国内经济专家大概现在都还没注意到twitter之类的工具，像郎咸平这样的话痨可能都还没用，他开个grp肯定有人气，K.D可以借借中文组的声势去联系一下这样的名人。中文组少也可以share成多，只是当个消息源发布平台
- kelvin
在外面（我指英文用户），体育新闻还是比较多的。经济类的确实少见。不知道别人怎么想，我觉得经济类的话题可能还是论坛上比较适合一些，毕竟经常都是长篇大论，而且要全文+别人的评论对照着来才能得出自己的观点。再加上FF的评论体系比较乱，不适合太多针对性的探讨，回复数量稍微多点，就乱了。
- yagami
我说发布平台并不是发布文章 ，只是发布文章的链接便于传播
- kelvin
还是有人提的。。FF里面其实也有圈子……
- 非|Felix
twitter有人每天推荐一个推友。K.D为何不每天组织大家推荐一个FFgrp帐号，不管中英文
- kelvin
也可啊，也像游戏的日常任务一样做点日常话题
- kelvin
@kelvin 好主意啊 ，我之前也想过：）我们先从最基本的开始做，先搞个什么”新手教程“，推广一下friendfeed，然后再活跃一下社区气氛，让更多的人加入到讨论中来。这么做原因很简单，因为friendfeed很酷，希望更多的人能从中受益，你同意吗?:))))
- K.D.
做教程多给点图示，少点文字，易于传播
- kelvin
其实friendfeed的帮助已经很详细了，现在中文翻译又基本完成了，要做教程是不是要换一个思路?
- K.D.
动画？？哈哈，发动Idesign那帮人团队合作啦
- kelvin
以你的中文组可以树形结构功能分配或者环形结构平行合作在合作中就把这件事顺水推舟完成了
- kelvin
这一句有点绕，没看明白：））
- K.D.
说白了，希望群体参与最底层的事情，和开源一样，但框架要你来做
- kelvin
其实我们是要明确分工，和征集志愿者，对吧？：）
- K.D.
对啊，这件事你可以发挥FF的优势来做，做得好也算一个案例，呵呵
- kelvin
你不是要明确谁来做，应该是明确需要做什么，什么样的人适合来做吧？？
- kelvin
对，就是分工和志愿者，然后就是合适的人做合适的事情..让我想想XD
- K.D.
twitter也好，ff也好，中文用户的多样性确实比较差。要说起多样性，其实饭否更好一点，常见的热门话题都可以搜索到。但我觉得ff这样也没什么不好，物以类聚嘛
- yezi
呵呵，中文组有点奇怪的优势，可以作为中文FF内部嵌套的twitter，其组织结构可以封装为更高的形式的设计形式，与其他组内容以继承形式关联，以多态性方式的传递和回应，更能体现设计人员对社会聚合的专有理解吧。
- kelvin
我印象中，FF早期中文用户中颇有一批对经济感兴趣的，每日分享话题也不少。
- Yinhaiming
当然，也可能是因为赶上经济危机的开头
- Yinhaiming
回佛陀，话虽如此，但搞IT的也不都是张江男，做开发的一样有很多兴趣广泛的人。国内也有其他很火的SNS，它们就真的有多样性？我看也未必。
- laogao
#Twitter 和 #Friendfeed 毕竟是国外的服务 #Twitter 还没中文版，也经常被封。所以在国内发展肯定是受限制。我指的是国内的 #Twitter 和 #Friendfeed 用户大部分是IT相关。
- 佛陀
from email
LOOKBOOK.nu: IbizaHippieChic on vi.sualize.us - http://vi.sualize.us/view...
Ibiza好像是西班牙的一个小岛。。。
- Neo Lee
Google，你不应该服务中国大陆 | 可能吧 - http://www.kenengba.com/post...
清明上河图之城·管来了 - http://initiative.yo2.cn/archive...
探秘中国博客审查：一个实验 - from 都是骗银地 - https://knol.google.com/k...
途加观点：看看这些国企都在干什么[拷串] [2009.3.17] - http://opinion.tugus.com/bbs_con...
Slashdot | High Tech Misery In China - http://news.slashdot.org/article...
Neo Lee, Bill Romanos and number5 liked this
imDict智能词典机器人 - imDict智能词典：imDict词典机器人，顾名思义，是一个可以用来在线查词的智能机器人，目前支持Gtalk和MSN。只要你将下列账号之一加为好友，就可享用在线查词的便利了。 - http://www.imdict.net/blog...
HealingBrush, Anzai3, RW1231 and 6 other people liked this
其他那个dictman 呢？
- qian
这东东词库太小了～好多词都不认识～囧～
- 米良(TimNew)
from twhirl
Index of / 各种Linux发行版 - http://mirrors.163.com/
我才发现网易有这个,我火星了?
- Newton
from Bookmarklet
速度不错啊。。。哈哈。
- ybs
不早了，夜猫子也犯困 - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Steve Wozniak Talks About Steve Jobs' Health Issues - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Daniel Rowley, Neo Lee, Martha and 4 other people liked this
is really "steve jobs" part of apple stock value...? designers, engineers, products, marketing strategies are.
- ezekiel
He is a part of the stock value. All CEOs should be. If they aren't, find a new CEO. Until Apple comes out with their strategy to succeed Jobs and prove they can still innovate, he's still a very valuable part of the company. Apple needs to use this leave to prove Apple != Jobs.
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Google Reader has some new shortcuts. Check out the ones for magnification and the way you can navigate your friends shared items.
Rob Diana, Atul Arora, J. D. Ebberly and 7 other people liked this
The magnification options aren't new, I've been using them for months.
- Nathan Howell
They're new to me!
- Steve Rubel
from IM
where are the new?
- foxmachia {山石}
FriendFeed支持IM - http://friendfeed.com/about/im
zgjie, laoge, Vincent Chu and 2 other people liked this
“The Friendfeed gadget works in Gmail!” - http://friendfeed.com/e...
前面就看到了，不过太细了。。且我的Gmail里用不了。。
- kang
FriendFeed Blog: Keeping it real with the FriendFeed Real-time API - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
Tyson Key, Laura Norvig, Mindaugas Dagys and 62 other people liked this
"If your application uses the FriendFeed API, you can now show FriendFeed updates to your users in real-time using the new FriendFeed Real-time API. We're providing access to the same underlying technology that's used by the real-time view on FriendFeed to all FriendFeed developers."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
This is the gamechanger for FriendFeed - just wait and see
- Ed Dale
sure it is! but hope friendfeed can scale better than twitter...
- Aziz
Bret, IMHO, instead of providing such "fantasy" features for the API, you should raise the limits you told me that you weren't able to raise some months ago... But, heh, you decide :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Nice work guys. Keep up the innovation and stay focused.
- Louis Gray
directeur: mind sending an mail to api@friendfeed.com detailing what limits you are referring to? Sorry if we dropped something - it was likely just forgotten due to something else, but we can address your problem now with all the details.
- Bret Taylor
Nice job. I would have preferred that the term "Real-Time" be reserved for an XMPP like implementation. As of now this feature is great but it is not exactly real-time. It is polling after all. This is a massive improvement though. Great work FF crew. Keep pushing the envelope. Don't fear the fire hose!
- Rolf Schewe
Bret: Thanks for the answer, I'll send you an email ASAP with the details! Again thanks for the attention
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Rolf, this API supports "long polling" -- it's every bit as realtime as XMPP.
- Paul Buchheit
@Rolf: with long polling, you get updates as soon as we have them, so it is as real-time as XMPP, just a different delivery mechanism.
- Bret Taylor
Bret, what's real-time in the case of Friendfeed? Really? I still have the picture of an axajy widget that refreshes and sends queries... It's pulling from the server, not the other way, right?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Gentlemen, Friendfeed 1.0 is a cool service. With RealTime API, I think we're looking at "killer app" with a huge breadth of applications. Well done.
- John Craft
So it is also dependent on the delivery on the other end I suppose. I just don't get why I get some content fast such as Twitter and some after a long delay such as Google Reader shared items.
- Rolf Schewe
Google Reader shared items are definitely not real-time.
- Rolf Schewe
From a community building perspective - this real-time is more than enough. If your a programmer designing an app with the API - here is the NUMBER 1 request - Make sure your app doesn't jump out of the stream when you comment or like something
- Ed Dale
on long polling vs xmpp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Karl Rosaen
I added Facebook today and tested to see the delay. The status message came through 1 hour later. I actually timed it.
- Rolf Schewe
@rolf: ff servers have to decide how often to crawl the feeds; they don't have the luxury of a realtime api to all of those services. if you post something to ff directly, however, you'll notice it show up immediately
- Karl Rosaen
Rolf- As Karl says, for incoming content we're at the mercy of the external providers. Our proposal for solving that side of the problem is called SUP: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
- Casey Muller
Casey, suppose I write an entry and delete it just after. Will it still be in the ral-time view for other users?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
it will increasingly be helpful to know which feeds FF does have realtime access to
- Steve Gillmor
So in essence the real-time feature is in some terms conditional on the outside services. Kind-of real-time.
- Rolf Schewe
help us to put pressure on them by listing those who have XMPP pipes in
- Steve Gillmor
directeur- Yes. Anybody (including API clients) monitoring the real-time feed will already have received the entry before you deleted it
- Casey Muller
casey can you guys publish a list of inputs with polling frequency please
- Steve Gillmor
The real innovation (sorry to insist on this) will be to process feeds on the user's level. Attention is the keyword. I DEFINITELY don't care about real-time. I want intersting stuff not fastly delivered ones... just sayin' :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Steve, Twitter is the only service that sends updates by XMPP. All other services (except things posted directly on FriendFeed or via the API) arrive via RSS/Atom feeds, which are generally checked once every 1/2 hour. However, we also monitor several pinging services and utilize SUP to discover feed updates much faster and can often get new entries within a minute or two.
- Paul Buchheit
out of curiosity, what does the ff realtime view set the timeout to? (i should clarify: I'm talking about calls from the client JS to the realtime APIs; what's the timeout of those requests)
- Karl Rosaen
Karl, it's currently about 60 sec, but that's mainly due to concern about browser and proxy timeouts. The server responds as soon as there is an update, so there's no disadvantage to using a larger timeout.
- Paul Buchheit
@Paul, thanks, i was wondering for a comparison to the timeout you'd need to use if supporting such an api from an app engine app (where you have to respond within 10 seconds or so I think)
- Karl Rosaen
Thanks for the feedback and the links. It helped a lot. Maybe down the line we will be able to get RSS data in a little faster. The Google Reader floods can get a little heavy with the current polling interval.
- Rolf Schewe
Paul would other sources who provide XMPP be accepted? Or is Twitter exclusive?
- Steve Gillmor
Steve: We would be happy to support more XMPP services depending on the ease of implementation. It is certainly not exclusive to Twitter.
- Bret Taylor
great to hear Bret
- Steve Gillmor
Yeah, the long-polling isn't the long pole.
- j1m
How many people out there a using FriendFeed Real-time?
- Amir
moi
- Zee.
oi (and remember, you're just asking friends of Bret, in this thread)
- Christopher Galtenberg
I don't use the Real-time a lot but It's not bad
- Amir
Cocolog 从 PostgreSQL 迁移到 MySQL 的经验 - http://www.dbanotes.net/arch...
画Web流程图的一点心得 - http://heartstringz.net/blog...
推荐一下，Felix 离开支付宝是个损失呀
- David Feng
great，我最愁流程图
- fond
John Resig - JavaScript Performance Rundown - http://ejohn.org/blog...
Ionut, Kevin Sablan, John Lam and 46 other people liked this
Interestig to see how adding DOM operations evens out John's benchmarks (first has DOM ops and Safari beats Chrome, second is Google's apparently slightly biased benchmark, which relies heavily on recursion).
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Just Firefox
- Saman
It is time to optimize for DOM. Faster JavaScript is fantastic..... great for games and crypto.... but what about the real world? NOTE: Ray Cromwell's Chronoscope benchmark http://timepedia.blogspot.com/2008...
- Dion Almaer
和我昨天的判断一样
- foxmachia {山石}
from fftogo
yeah i made the point on DOM to the V8 team http://tinyurl.com/65clg2 - never got back to me on that one say maybe some truth to it :)
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
from twhirl
These tests are very insightful. I was initially very excited about Chrome being 10 times faster on javascript. As usual with any such claims (not just from Google), they are skewed. However, I do think that Chrome entering the market will cause all browsers to get better more rapidly. Competition does drive innovation.
- Robert Felty
Thanks for sharing this detailed knowledge. Very useful.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
we're working on DOM work now. believe that the tracing technique has applications; working on getting the DOM acting faster soon.
- John Lilly
granted all beta-quality of Chrome and zero-day securiity bug, i think their current *speed* shows only lack of exception handling. Once it matures, it will be same or evenn worse than FF - it is tough to beat long-standing code without rounding corners on usual code glue...
- A.T.
Google Chrome, I Choose You! - http://www.mrgadget.com.au/gadget...
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