So is this a normal thing, to only provide references on your own (paywalled) site, even though you provide full text to aggregators? Because I'm highly irritated.
I don't think I have ever run across that.
- Steele Lawman
wait, what? Am I understanding this correctly: the full text for articles in a particular journal is in aggregators, but the bibliography/references/works cited aren't included - those are only available on the publisher's own (paywalled) web site? That's the damndest thing I've ever heard.
- Catherine Pellegrino
there are some medical textbooks for which the references are only available on the companion website, with login, which can't be transferred when you sell the book
- Christina Pikas
Oh good, because I thought I was going crazy. I've emailed the corresponding author, and if that doesn't work I guess I'll send it to ILL. BAH.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I was looking at my steps progress for the week thus far. Even though I've gone over my goal for each day, for some reason it's saying I'm under/behind on progress. I don't understand.
But that doesn't change the fact that even though I've hit my goal for each day, it continues to tell me I'm under my goal. It doesn't matter what day it starts on. If I'm on track, I'm on track. Although, I did change the settings to have my week start on Sunday. But, like I said, it doesn't matter since I've met each day's goal and it still tells me I haven't met it.
- Katy S
I seem to remember I could choose between Monday and Sunday being the first day, Stephen. I think you Americans are to blame for all the calendars that start with Sunday.
- Eivind
I don't. I blame Akiva and "his people" :)
- Eivind
With the old dashboard, you could set unrelated daily and weekly goals (e.g., 12,000 a day and 70,000 a week). I can't find a way to do that with the new dashboard. The only weekly goal I see is when you click the little gear on the bottom left of the tile, and it's tied to the Daily goal (daily x 7). So, dumb question: when you click on the little gear on the bottom left of that tile,...
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- Betsy #TeamMonique
(If you go to the old dashboard and change them separately (e.g., 12K and 70K), the new dashboard accepts those settings. However, when you're back in the new dashboard and change the daily goal, its recalculation overrides your weekly setting.)
- Betsy #TeamMonique
The goal is fine. Actually, the numbers show up just fine. It's just the written message it gives me that is off. So, when the numbers show that I'm on track or ahead, it has a written message telling me I'm under rather than on track. I think it's just a temporary quirk that needs to be fixed.
- Katy S
Yeah, uh, this whole thing has been pretty wild. Up to nearly 12K page views, which is by far the most popular post I've ever done. Posts on the politicization of science in Canada have always been popular, but in the 1-2K page view range.
- John Dupuis
Liked on Fb: 3.6K, Tweets: 763. Even 74 +1's on G+, for heaven's sake.
- John Dupuis
But, how much has this been shared in friendfeed?
- OMG 404 Joe
I wish I were that smart. I guess I should mention that I did submit the post to BB but I imagine they pick up only a very small portion of what's submitted. I suspected I would have a decent shot because Cory Doctorow is Canadian and he has posted about the Canadian goverment in the past. Aside from that, all I did was tweet it up a bit more than usual.
- John Dupuis
Didn't know that there was a process for submitting posts to BB, and that is good to know.
- OMG 404 Joe
Edging up to 30K page views, 73 comments, 7K likes, 1100 tweets, 200 +1's and more than a dozen links from other blogs (including Bruce Sterling, of all people). Probably a dozen or so emails with suggestions, some from insiders. This is seriously unlike anything else that's ever happened.
- John Dupuis
What fun! Congrats, and good job, John. You hit a nerve, and brought info.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
Thanks. I've noticed a few people have basically republished my list, with attribution. I'm thinking CC0 for this post.
- John Dupuis
So, I CC0'd it and it has been republished a few times. Up around 37K page views. And a couple of media interview requests have trickled in.
- John Dupuis
I kind of like how he introduces your post: "John Dupuis has assembled a brief, brutal chronology …" yay librarians for assembling chronologies!
- $tephanie•Gardening
Special Agent Fister coined the term Liberation Bibliography sometime back. I like to think I do a version of that too.
- John Dupuis
I'm honored if that phrase describes what you do. Brilliantly.
- barbara fister
Delayed effect, I guess, but one media interview last week, two tomorrow and one on Thursday. Not all directly related to this post but at least in part to an enhanced profile.
- John Dupuis
Interviews that happened: campus radio station (CHRY), Skeptically Speaking (a full hour!), Macleans blog, Tyee and one freelancer. I suspect not all of the interviews will surface, but we'll see. Another interesting development: I'll be setting up a phone meeting with the NDP Science & Tech critic.
- John Dupuis
He better watch out. Rabbits can be vicious, at least my 100 pound golden retriever thinks so. He stopped dead in his tracks this morning as we were out walking, refusing to get within 100 feet of the rabbit in the middle of the parking lot. Apparently he knows something your neighbor has yet to learn?
- WebGoddess
Heh, guess we shouldn't get a retriever then. Our backyard would be torture.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I'm thinking the response today was because they are still new to the area, having just moved up with me a couple of weeks ago and so they are still nervous about EVERYTHING. In his backyard, back in MO, he'd have had a blast running around after that thing, until it found one of the holes in our fence and escaped. Here, they are unfamiliar and terrifying creatures...
- WebGoddess
I feel like this is part of the general trend of Asian businesses moving out of Chinatown and moving into Monterey Park or elsewhere in the SGV. Cheaper rent, bigger spaces, less traffic (well, a little less traffic than DTLA and vicinity.) It sounds like that mall complex where Empress Pavilion was is seriously struggling. Maybe it'll be razed and turned into town houses or something.
- Victor Ganata
Yeah, there's that too. It's location isn't all that great. I can't even think of the last time we ate on that side.
- Anika
"Bholsangngam said that a contractor repairing the escalator has been waiting for a part for several months." -- >.>
- Andrew C (✓)
Did you take the screenshot? Did you create the presentation? I'd think the answer would be yes, if you owned copyright on both. The only real question would be if the image was considered "previously published", but I don't think most publishers worry about images, just text, when they talk about previous publication.
- WebGoddess
Generally, what I have seen with most contracts for articles, is that the article as a whole would be rejected if it was previously published, but images aren't specifically included. I'd assume that this is the case, though you could always ask the editor if you were really worried. I tend toward more of a "ask forgiveness than permission" stance on this, myself...
- WebGoddess
The only question I've ever been asked about images was if I had the rights to them. Image reuse is pretty common.
- Rebecca Hedreen
If you took the screenshot, it's yours for reuse. I would cite the original source of it of your presentation. As Rebecca said, as long as you have rights for it and it's not going to cost anything to resuse the image, you should be fine.
- Hedgehog
I've done this, actually (authority control in IRs paper). Journal didn't even blink. Or ask.
- RepoRat
Q for the hive brain: I have a recollection of a journal that was OA, was purchased and taken closed. The content remained available via PMC but was not linked from the publisher site which now appeared as a subscription journal...anyone point me in that direction?
Not the subject you are looking for, but I am pretty sure that Folklorica used to be free since it was listed in a "Free Online Journals" database, and now it charges subscriptions, https://ojsprdap.vm.ku.edu/index... (Folklorica, Journal of the Slavic and East European Folkore Association. ISSN 1920-0242.)
- OMG 404 Joe
The one I was thinking of was presumably biomedical because the content is/was in PMC but keep the examples coming! The more the merrier. These examples are to point out why the publisher position that "PMC is duplication of effort" is not true.
- Cameron Neylon
BePress journals are not biomedical, but were sold and closed. (Although I guess they were sort of quasi-OA?)
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Years ago I published a piece in SIMILE - at the time out of U of Toronto Press and OA - and it migrated to a US university and suddenly was no longer open. And now, apparently, has ceased. Gee, why would that happen?
- barbara fister
Here is another journal that used to be OA and is no longer, http://socialistregister.com/index... [Edit. Looks like it has open articles that are published before 2004. That is quite the delay... So, I really wouldn't call this an OA journal, and it certainly does not fit any of the BBB standards of OA.]
- OMG 404 Joe
There's been a wildfire near Santa Clarita that started yesterday. It's called Powerhouse Fire. It's definitely making the sunset look strange.
- Anika
We were just saying this! Even checked OC fire authority to make sure there wasn't one nearby.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I just switched to The Old Reader. It works just as well for me, as I only used GR on proper computers anyway.
- Eivind
Their privacy policy is scary. With Google they have access to your contact list and with Facebook access to your friend list. I guess I should create a separate account.
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
Since I've been using Google Reader almost exclusively via Flipboard, I'm not sure what the best option would be. The idea of manually adding all the feeds I follow to Flipboard gives me the heebie-jeebies. I wonder if Flipboard is working on something?
- Victor Ganata
Yeah I've pretty much settled into The Old Reader as well. It started off rather slow but now it seems to be speedy enough.
- ronin
Or I guess I could Google it and find the answer. Looks like if you're already using Flipboard for Google Reader, they've already got a plan: We’ve Got Your RSS Covered! Save Your Google Reader Feeds Now http://inside.flipboard.com/2013...
- Victor Ganata
The Old Reader's privacy policy, Stephan? I just created an account without linking either fb or goog. That's why I didn't try Feedly.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I ditched GReader about a month ago and changed my workflow. Put the must-read stuff into RSS-to-email (via Blogtrottr), and put the rest into bookmarks (that I can open up in sets of tabs if I'm so inclined, depending on what I'm into). I think with GOOG pulling out, we'll see even more sites dropping feeds from the menu.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I just saw some posts from the old reader that seemed to indicate they would no longer require access to the contact list. That's a positive sign.
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
Tinfoil, I don't consider my google reader feed extreme by any means but I would not want to have all of the content land in my inbox.
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
I know it's a trade-off. I loved GReader and its info density. But I do send my RSS emails right to a folder so I can go to it by choice and not see it when I'm not ready to. The advantage is that I can get my feeds anywhere with just email (and a browser for extended stuff), no logins or special apps or cross-device issues or anything.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I'm hearting Commafeed; it's a tad slow to load/refresh but everything else is worth it.
- Deborah Fitchett
I switched to Feedly but don't use Feedly are nearly as often as I did GR
- Rodfather
Stephan, they go into two folders, split by priority. Most feeds get a single real-time email per feed item, so they're easily scannable by subject line, and I don't even have to open it if it's not interesting (just like the way I used GReader). A couple of verbose feeds though I subscribed as digest, so I do open those to see if what's in them is worth a view.
- Tinfoil 2.0
What I'm finding with Feedly disturbs me a bit: Because the default is to show just the first X lines of each post, I find that I'm actually reading a lot fewer posts.
- Walt Crawford
Why do I have to pick??? Brussels sprouts, broccoli, and mushrooms are probably tied. But dammit, I just thought of four more I love.
- laura x
from BuddyFeed
It's close between broccoli, asparagus, and summer squash.
- Heather
Eggplant! Can be in Japanese, Chinese, Italian food, or even just grilled. So versatile!
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I like most things in a salad. Love potato in most forms. Corn on the cob. Grilled asparagus. Eggplant.
- Headless Gnad Kicker
Oh, well, if *that's* the question, other than eggplants and olives, I'm good with most veggies if prepared properly (which usually means simply).
- Walt Crawford
anyone done an external assessment of ILL before, like how your patrons feel about it? I'm looking for some examples of questions to ask, ways to conduct the assessment, etc.
What do you hope to learn? Are there specific things that are possible to change or new services you need feedback on, or what?
- Rachel Walden
I'm hoping to find out what we need to do to improve services and how we communicate with our patrons. we haven't done any type of feedback in over 15 years, so its time I think. I'm thinking that might lead to ideas of new services that we can/need to offer
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Hmm, bumping for more ideas on how to go about it, if folks have suggestions for Sir.
- Rachel Walden
I haven't done such a thing. But I'd be trying to find out which usergroups had heard about it, what they understand its purpose to be; if you charge then is that a barrier to them; what delivery method(s) do they want; are there issues of timeliness? format? image quality? others?
- Deborah Fitchett
You've probably already done this, but there's always LISTA/Library Literature/Emerald. Looks like there are at least a couple of articles about people who've run them. Ex: "Interlibrary Loan Satisfaction Survey at the University of Evansville." If they haven't included actual questions, you could always email the author.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I haven't looked at Emerald yet (I always forget about them) but I'll take a look thanks!
- Sir Shuping is just sir
I like the photostream page, but I don't like the individual photo pages. Having a black strip and white strip is a little weird, and vertical photos are too small on them.
- John (bird whisperer)
Is it just me, or just now, or is the Sets page really broken?
- Betsy #TeamMonique
The Sets page isn't broken for me, but it's a lot different.
- John (bird whisperer)
Okay, it works now. I cleared the browser history and cache and restarted the computer. I'd had lots of tabs open for too long.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
I'm setting up a summer project and it suddenly occurred to me - maybe someone already did this. I want to compile lists of big-name journals in disciplines we teach and what the OA policy is for each (preprint, postprint, PDF, noway nowhow, unknown). Has anyone already compiled this?
I got this idea from a presenter at the Michigan Library Association academic libraries conference. Helps show faculty that yes, you can. Except when you can't.
- barbara fister
I did a short list of (gold) OA vs subscription journals for Chemistry once. I think I grabbed the top x by impact factor from SciMago, then looked each one up in DOAJ - was basically to show that there are a bunch of high impact OA places to publish in. The obvious flaw to the approach was that it wasn't very balanced in terms of subdisciplines. Plus it was manual so doing it for lots of disciplines would be a nuisance.
- Deborah Fitchett
I may have students work on this over the summer. If it's not already out there, I'd be happy to share it when it's compiled.
- barbara fister
One for LIS would have made the task of selecting a home for the article I just submitted SO MUCH EASIER.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I suspect you could repurpose the Google Scripts used to automate the Sherpa ROMEO queries described here http://journal.code4lib.org/article... if you started out with a spreadsheet listing ISSNs.
- Heather
*munch munch munch* (We're in the middle of this: we're an Ex Libris shop, looking to activate Primo Central soon, and the bulk of our database content comes from EBSCO.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
Highly entertaining. But, evidence of exactly why we need to remember and act like we are in the midst of a bunch of business deals, not altruistic nonprofits (even if that is our role - which may also be debatable).
- Lisa Hinchliffe
Yes. One of the things I like best about this is Orbis Cascade Alliance's tone.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Could someone explain this to me like I'm five, please?
- Andy
EBSCO owns content. Ex Libris would like to include that content in its Primo discovery layer, so that users at libraries who subscribe to the EBSCO products can find it using the library's single search box. EBSCO says, "No. If you want to access the EBSCO metadata, you need to subscribe to OUR discovery layer."
- DJF
Ebsco, like Proquest, is in the position of providing both content and a discovery tool. They are taking the lead in ensuring that their content is best/only accessed via THEIR discovery tool. As a result, Ex Libris's discovery tool can't effectively access EBSCO content. And all commercial entities in the game are failing to play nicely with each other.
- Jenica
(Two of us assessed it about the same at the same time, so you know we must be right. AND AWESOME.)
- Jenica
I support Orbis Cascade's position that if EBSCO and Ex Libris won't play together, then neither of them gets any money. Of course, in this particular case, that's not really fair to Ex Libris, who has no control over what EBSCO lets them see.
- DJF
I'm in love with the fact that a library organization is standing up and, in public, plainly asserting its right as a paying customer to demand better of the industry. Fuck. Yes.
- Jenica
Also: discovery layers are serious business.
- Andy
I think EBSCO's fucking this up. They need to build a wall between the discovery business and the content business, and fast. Because if the content business is not indexed in a neutral way, then people using Primo or Summon will not find the EBSCO content. If people don't find the content, it doesn't get used. And that's how databases get cancelled.
- DJF
The timing of this memo is odd as we learned a few weeks ago that EBSCO has agreed to re-do the API. I'm more upset with ProQuest They won't even offer us an API to use with Primo.
- Jen
One comment I've heard regarding this situation is that their library holdings are only a small part of EBSCO's portfolio. Of course you would think Proquest, who has a higher percentage of library content, would care more.
- Elizabeth Brown
It's a good thing I wasn't eating popcorn when I got to "and use sub-standard API" at the bottom of page 2, or it'd be all over my keyboard now. It's like when you're trying *really really hard* to be the unbiased voice of reason in a debate but then a "plus your product sucks!" just slips out there.
- Deborah Fitchett
It would have been handy to have all of pop into view last month when we had Serials Solutions, EBSCO, and ExLibris deliver back to back one-hour discovery layer pitches to our consortium. It was my first full-on vendor experience post MLIS and I was alternately amused and appalled by the EBSCO hard core FUD.
- Heather
Heather, FUD is EBSCO's primary product line. We've all seen that in action.
- DJF
I used to work in a comms unit that supported sales guys and anytime the FUD was rolled out it was a clear sign of a product line in trouble and/or sales reps that didn't understand or respect their audience. Sales rep tactics appear to be a transferrable skill.
- Heather
"there is an inherent conflict of interest when content providers attempt to control a library’s choice of discovery." But since their interest is to make money, as much as possible, and control as many markets as they can, where's the conflict? I'm glad there's pushback, but why would we NOT expect a company to vertically integrate and resist sharing? In some ways its more a conflict of public interest for libraries to rely on these bozos.
- barbara fister
You nailed it, Secret Agent Fister, when are libraries going to wake up and realize they do not need to buy in to feeding the pigs? (codicil: when are the damn faculty going to stop giving their work away to the pigs)
- awd (canoeist in th wild)
from Android
Must say I first read Ebsco's response and it was a very good attempt to cloud Pmatters, I was almost convinced..., shows how much I know about discovery :P Anyway I never quite got why it's always about ebscohost , Proquest does the same. Or is it because their databases have metadata that can be obtained in other ways?
- aarontay
Yes, Barbara, yes. If you're a librarian, Ebsco's position looks ethically sketchy. If you're a business analyst, they appear to have a sound strategy. Ex Libris's positioning of themselves as The Good Guys Fighting The Good Fight for libraries pisses me off, because i don't believe for a second that, if they "win" and Ebsco opens up their data, Ex Libris won't turn around and try to...
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- Jenica
Aaron, what is the link to the EBSCO response?
- OMG 404 Joe
how did ProQuest / Serials Solutions / Summon get around this?
- $tephanie•Gardening
They go to the journal publishers and get the metadata. It's not 100% of say CINAHL, but maybe 90%+ but of course it's very "thin metadata" (ebsco's term), sometimes not even abstract or subject headings and usually no full text. It can make quite a difference sometimes.
- aarontay
A message went around at my Primo-using library this morning saying that use of our EBSCO full text resources have declined 64% and use of their indexes 73%. I think we'll be looking for this content elsewhere...
- Megan loves summer
phew. well, I can't say I'm sorry to see this chickenshit tactic backfire.
- RepoRat
I like most of my EBSCO contacts, but the guy they had delivering the FUD sales pitch when we looked at EDS last year really turned me off.
- Royce's favorite Anna
Going w/hawk. "Hawks may leave behind a carcass. However, the carcasses is usually left whole and you will find tufts of fur or pieces of skin and fur scattered around the carcass. Hawk do not like to eat fur, skin, or bones. The rabbit’s neck will be dislocated or broken and the chest cavity will be punctured will talon marks." <--Exactly this. Blecch.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
This on the day where we are discussing at my library whether we should continue to pay about $50K for about 60 individual Taylor and Francis subscriptions, or move to paying about $69K for 1500 subscriptions. My opinion is in the distinct minority.
- Steele Lawman
First, let's cancel all the T&F journals.
- barbara fister
rhamphotheca: Who’s living in your oatmeal? If you don’t store it in a tightly sealed container, this pretty little moth might be. The Indianmeal moth, Plodia interpunctella, may be the most important pest of dried goods in homes and food storage facilities world wide. The larvae feed on a broad range of grains and dried goods, including seeds,... - http://dendroica.tumblr.com/post...
I haven't had trouble with them here, but my neighbors in college had to root out their whole pantry and bleach it after these and silverfish got in. My roommate and I helped out, since they didn't know what to do.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I battled with them for years in New Mexico. Tough to get rid of, for sure.
- Kelli H.
from Android
We had them last year. Did serious purge, got lots of containers. Crossing fingers they don't come back this yr.
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
whaaa? the price is going to change after sept. 30? do tell!
- Marie
"American Psychiatric Publishing will be offering new packages and options for PsychiatryOnline.org for orders and renewals placed after September 30, 2013...We have also restructured our customer tiers for PsychiatryOnline for 2014. These changes reflect industry standards consistent with increased electronic access to content. Using the services of top industry firms, our subscriber...
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- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
At least 1 person on ERIL said their price was doubling. We haven't heard...
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
If airports count, then I've got New Jersey in there. Forgot about Newark. (Probably for the best, yuck). Oh! And Arlington's in Virginia. Oh well, close enough. #mapmeme
- Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Really? I thought that was totally normal. I mean, they're just figuring out the whole eating and digesting thing. Sometimes it goes right, sometimes.. well, there's a learning curve.
- Jennifer Dittrich