Leif Hansen

http://biznik.com/members/jaso... and I really should use it more often. - Jason Shultz

My profile: http://www.biznik.com/members/... - Leif Hansen

http://biznik.com/members/andr... - Andrew Badera

Hey Jason, yeah. Biznik is a very unique place in that indies seem to be a lot more real and their is a truly collaborative spirit there. I think it comes from the extra layer of face-to-face connection. I don't think theres many live events in Arizona yet, but have you been to any? - Leif Hansen

Hey Andrew, looks like you may have just joined. Just a suggestion --if you add a picture to your profile (and some basic info) you'll get tons more views and connections happening. Otherwise, people tend to think its just a 'bookmark' page. Cheers, and let me know if you need a tour around the site. - Leif Hansen

No, I haven't been to any yet. I'm 2.5 hours outside of Phoenix and almost all the members seem to be in the Phoenix metro. - Jason Shultz

Yeah, its tough to get live-events for non-urbanites -though I know a few smaller towns in the PNW who have had successful live events. We've also started a Biznik Live show at 10a PST wednesdays this month --next week I'm interviewing Timothy Ferriss (4 hour workweek) and 29th its Van Jones (Green Collar Economy) should be great. Call in and meet them. - Leif Hansen

Breathing? Check! Water? Check! Food? Check! Gunfire on my street? Nope! Right...things aren't that bad. - Stephen Pierzchala

Yeah, she lived in Tehran and her house was bombed. People are losing their homes, but not like that. - Robert Scoble

Well, back then too, things were 'not that bad' until a certain point -- and are we maybe a bit numbed, after the disasters of this decade? - Christopher Galtenberg

she's right - Milad.p

Worst I have seen. But I only have a quarter century of bad things to compare it to. - Not Not Geoff Schultz

Geoff: it's the worst I've seen too, although the gas lines and malaise and corruption (Nixon/Carter) of the 1970s were pretty damn bad too. - Robert Scoble

That comment from her is awesomesauce! - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

I believe, deep in my heart, that the cause of the problems in the 1970's was Disco. - Not Not Geoff Schultz

Yes, Disco is the root of all things that are evil...which is why it's banned from our wedding. - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

This isn't the worst I've seen...does no one remember the economic situation post 9/11? - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

The problem is that this is the beginning of the storm. We haven't really seen anything that bad yet, other than the stock market drop and foreclosures on subprime loans. Unfortunately, there's a lot more fallout that hasn't hit yet. - Chris White

Alex: this is far worse than post 9/11. That was a temporary shock to the system. The fears I'm hearing are that this will be long and deep. The dominoes that make up the economy haven't stopped falling yet. On 9/11 it was very fast and came back pretty nicely pretty quickly. We don't yet know how deep or long this one will be, but it's looking damn nasty. - Robert Scoble

Good point Robert. Do you know anyone who has done some scenarios, projected possible outcomes? Any critical thinkers who have drawn a picture of what the next likely 'dominoes' might be? - Leif Hansen

Yep, my brother is seriously smoking some good stuff out of the fear pipe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

I agree with Maryam. It's frightening, intimidating, scary, fear-inducing - but that's because we're all used to the 7 years of feast and not the 7 years of famine. We'll be fine when cooler heads prevail which is in the near future. - Aaron Brazell

Alex: you are just being a jerk now. Since you told me to "be positive" the market has dropped nearly 2,000 points. Well, someday it'll start going up and you'll probably say "see, I called it." Well, here's my stake: the plane is pulling out of its death spiral slightly. So, Monday I wouldn't be surprised to see an up market. - Robert Scoble

Leif: Auto industry is the domino that's falling now. So, draw lines out from there to who sells stuff to auto industry. That's where the domino falling will go next. - Robert Scoble

Jerk now? I think you used an unnecessary word in there Robert...But seriously, what have you gained by not being wrong? What have you gained by shouting from the rooftops that the sky is falling? Yeah, yeah, you are Mr. Brutally Honest Scoble...It's your shtick, we get it. Actually, no it isn't...your shtick is telling us what's cool out there...showing the light at the end of the tunnel. All of this fear mongering, doesn't become you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

There's too much October left for there to be a bottom. This is not 1987, where there was a crash and then things kept going up. We've been on a downward trend for a year, and there's no reason to think this month it will end. I think there's a lot more hedge funds and mutual funds that will need to liquidate before the end of the year. - Chris White

On the positive side, isn't this a great time to buy some good shares here and there 'on the cheap'? - Charlie Ramirez

I have to agree with Robert, I think this is worse than 9/11(regarding the economy of course). This is a meltdown of the markets fundamentals(which werent strong John) - Not Not Geoff Schultz

I think we're all working and living like we're almost through the tunnel, but there's nothing wrong in thinking about the downside and getting prepared, in whatever way we can. Talking preparation would be more constructive than beating our heads against the wall. - Christopher Galtenberg

@Robert: Isn't it okay to be positive in the face of negative news? I don't think Alex is saying things are great, he's seeing opportunity and he sees the mid-to-long-term future still being bright. When you're faced with something awful it generally pays to be positive. - AJ Kohn

"Dollar cost averaging has been widely criticized by economists and academic finance researchers as more of a marketing gimmick than a sound investment strategy" - Chris White

If it works for Bob Brinker...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

Alex, do you own stock in some dollar-cost averaging related company? There's a lot of links for it. The problem with a lot of these bull market stock guys is they make money for people when the market is going up, but then they just whine and complain about the government, other countries, etc. when it goes into a bear market. If you did dollar-cost averaging starting in 2003 and sold it all in 2007, you did well. Now, not so much. - Chris White

Most market experts would not have told you to do dollar cost averaging in 2003 when the market was recovering. It's a tool to limit risk when investing in bear markets, not necessarily bull markets. And the S&P being at 850 is just utter crap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

it just seems silly to be investing in stocks (dollar-profit limiting or otherwise) when we are clearly on a downward trend. You can see it in the charts. When's the last time we've had two days of an up market? - Chris White

Christopher Penn's with ya Robert http://www.christopherspenn.co... "...What we face in the months and years ahead is nearly unprecedented in terms of economic turmoil. Our society at large will be different when we emerge on the other side. Some won’t make it. The goods news? You’re not alone, as my friends remind me often..." - Leif Hansen

People say the same thing in any bear market, but you have to go in at some point and it's better to go in when the market is going down vs going up. But you don't want to go in all at once and be horribly wrong on where the bottom was, so you divide the amount you are going to invest into 10 or 12 blocks and put it into the market in whatever time span you are comfortable with (days, weeks, months) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... That's Dollar Cost Averaging. - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

Alex, it's not rocket science. I understand what dollar cost averaging is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.... Are you saying we're at a bottom or is this theoretical? And what is the timeline you think we'll be on for the upswing? (i.e. when will you make your last installment of your averaging) - Chris White

it's all fine, don't worry - Gregory Lent

the worst ain't over. i went to get some take-out from a popular pizza place in the Wall St area last night that has several restaurant/bars and outdoor seating. The weather was nice and since it was Thursday a lot of people were there, mainly wall st types, mainly VP and below younger people. Talked to a few, not too many are worried too much, but that might be bravado (and alcohol) speaking for them. What the resounding consensus was, though, was that there is more pain to come. I've heard (cont.) - grant

...the same from more credible sources too. At least the dollar is revaluing! - grant

Chris, I'm saying that we won't know where the bottom was until we are already past it. If I had additional money to invest in the market right now, I'd probably spread it out over the next 6 to 8 months. I think we should have seen the bottom by then and then those investments would be in good shape to payoff down the road. - Alex "Gamerpoints" Scoble

I visit with people once every two or three weeks who have never left their home town. Further, lots of people won't attend TED, won't see some of those speakers, etc. Yes, regular conferences trump watching videos, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't present and provide learning in different ways. - Chris Brogan

But maybe there's another name for this type of aggregation. Something along the lines of distance learning. And speaking for those of us who are very distant from almost everything, it's a great idea. - Becky McCray

Know the difference between a white paper and an ebook? Portrait vs. Horizontal. Only, when marketers start releasing ebooks instead of white papers, the download numbers go way up. I think this is similar. - Chris Brogan

If I'm hearing ya right, you're saying that though the name may not be accurate --calling it a 'conference' might get numbers up more than 'distance learning', etc? - Leif Hansen

Or another way of saying this: what if conference in its roots just means a gathering of the minds. Does that have to be face to face? FriendFeed proves not. - Chris Brogan

Yes, we are in the 'social media' biz. As for its 'roots' though,"from conferre 'to bring together, compare,' from com- 'together' + ferre 'to bear' Sense of 'taking counsel' led to conference". Whether we're truly 'together' when mixing our pixels will be the question of the century. As the digital world gets richer, it gets more dangerous as well. And remember, they're now saying most of communication is closer to 90% non-verbal (and in txt world?). But I'm probably now taking us on a tangent...;) - Leif Hansen

The robber sprayed the guard with pepper spray, grabbed a bag of money the guard was carrying and ran about 100 yards to the creek that runs into the Skykomish River, shedding clothes as he ran. But apparently, the robber had planned ahead. In case anyone was hot on his trail, he had at least a dozen unsuspecting decoys waiting nearby, which he recruited on Craigslist. "I came across the ad that was for a prevailing wage job for $28.50 an hour," said Mike, who saw a Craigslist ad last week looking for workers for a road maintenance project in Monroe. He said he inquired and was e-mailed back with instructions to meet near the Bank of America in Monroe at 11 a.m. Tuesday. He also was told to wear certain work clothing. "Yellow vest, safety goggles, a respirator mask… and, if possible, a blue shirt," he said. - Cee Bee

Mike showed up along with about a dozen other men dressed like him, but there was no contractor and no road work to be done. He thought they had been stood up until he heard about the bank robbery and the suspect who wore the same attire. - Cee Bee

Dude, that is brilliant. - Shawn Farner

I expect this to end up in a Law and Order episode soon. then again, I've seen this already on V for Vendetta ;) - ~C4Chaos

Too sick!! That's one great plan, love the scheme. - Zu aka ElijahBailey

Wow..freakin awesome. I mean..the execution. If we don't start using all this fancy social media sh*t for good, this type of stuff will only get worse...LOL - RAHwsomeSHEENsauce™

straight out of the movies.. - tsiakhyie

FiendFeed Rahsheen? - JodyUnwired

This guy is a genius. The end. - Mark Wilson

Leif: me too. And Seesmic now can post from Nokia cell phones, which rocks even more. I gotta try that tomorrow. - Robert Scoble

What's up Morgan? :) - Anna Haro

the groundswell of hate directed at the Hummer really deserves some study - from a branding/social media perspective - Bill Sanders

Would be interesting to see fore sure. I think it's directly related to the green trend in the US that coincided with its lifecycle. Truth is in other countries, it's not an issue- the H3 is selling like mad. - Jason Kintzler

It's an H3, I wouldn't consider that a real hummer. The H2 is much beefier, that's why it gets about 7mpg. - David Ward

Yes. Hate them. Release your hatred, and feel the power of the Force. - Rick Wolff

Oh nooooo. I'm not mad at the Hummer. Bad photo, I guess. I'm mad at ALL the cars. All of them. I want them all to die, slide off to the side of the road, and let me sail through seamlessly. Oh, I'm not an environmental dude. Hell, if I could fill my tank with styrofoam and harp seals, I would. - Chris Brogan

"Hell, if I could fill my tank with styrofoam and harp seals, I would. - Chris Brogan" - there's the campaign bumper sticker for ya - Bob Goyetche

yikes, Chris. I hope you are a bit more of a greeny than that. :) - Mary Anne Davis

"I'm not an environmental dude" thats really too bad to hear Chris. Personally, I hope you were just being a little flippant. Environmental issues are possibly the most urgent issues of the day and, in fact, I'd say we are all "environmental dudes" because we live in an environment --just *what kind* of effect and 'dude' we want to be is the Q. Its an unavoidable ethical question. - Leif Hansen

I'm being a little flippant. - Chris Brogan

Ah, makes sense now- thanks for clarifying Chris! I was worried you were heading down that path. I'm tiring of political jargon on FF, I should've known better ;) - Jason Kintzler

great conversation with Om Malik of GigaOm and Standord professor Robert Sapolsky about effects of stress on us. - Robert Scoble

Robert Sapolsky is as smart as smart gets. He has a great course--Biology and Human Behavior--through the Teaching Company. Just wonderful. - todd

Interesting coincidence: I'm flying up to Banff this weekend to help present a play called "Death by Powerpoint" written by Paul Levy, its for the 4th art of management conference (http://www.essex.ac.uk/afm/emc...) - Leif Hansen

but still, after reading, who will have any interest in anything to counter it, like meditation? - Gregory Lent

By the way, Om Malik had a heart attack last December and talks to me about the changes he's made to his life. Really great stuff we should all consider. - Robert Scoble

Here's a better URL for this interview: http://www.kyte.tv/ch/6118-sco... - Robert Scoble

This is great stuff man.....and meditation does work. :-) - Rich Harris

Meditation isn't the only option. If you are interested in the sort thing I wrote a couple of articles on stress that incorporate Sapolsky's teachings: Threat 13. The Stress Threat (http://tinyurl.com/5drrf7) and Strategy 35. Manage Your Stress (http://tinyurl.com/5g7n83). - todd

Meditation is one of MANY options. - Rich Harris

@todd your site has an interesting design .... what is it based on? - Gregory Lent

YDD is based on Joomla. The HS site is Drupal. My wife's biztaxtalk.com site is also Drupal. I wanted to try some of each :-) - todd

thanks, was wondering .. wordpress i can tell from fifty yards usually, and yours seems nicer - Gregory Lent

awesome! - Thomas Hawk

Yes! You have to enjoy every moment! Oldest daughter just started first grade; wondering where the time went... - Stephen Shores

Okay, brief pinch me moment. Thomas Hawk comments on my photo! Second, thanks. - Chris Brogan

@Leif - You and I could talk about this, for sure. I had similar feelings. - Chris Brogan

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