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Today is probably the day when I pass 50,000 followers on FriendFeed. A mind-blowing number if you consider it includes almost no spammers or celebrities.

October 8 from iPhone - Comment - Like - Share

Nicholas James, Geert CONARD, Baard @ Pixum and 64 other people liked this

Thank you for joining me here! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

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yeah cos twitters down lol - michelle harris

A mind blowing number considering youre not a celebrity either. - Paulo Diniz

Also about 5,000 of those joined after FriendFeed sold to Facebook. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Congratulations Robert, you obviously have earned it! - Stock Market Club

Congratulations! - Helge V. Keitel

Congrats - Kashif Khan

I hate it when celebrities follow me! ;) Congrats Robert. - Jorge Escobar

Only almost? Well, we probably define "celebrity" a bit uniquely around here. - Kathy Fitch from iPhone

Do you still think FriendFeed will die, Robert? Just curious. - Jeff Harbert

Jeff: if I ever said that I take it back. That said the FriendFeed team is mostly working on other things now. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

followers on friendfeed mean a lot more than twitter followers - ffcode

WOW !!! congrats ... but I must say I have 4 real real real friends IRL .... :D - Marcel Bloingo

Nice to see you here Robert. It's been kinda quiet lately. ;-) - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

You've really gotta consider getting some celebrities and spammers on this account....where's your sense of adventure....lol - walidmREALTOR

Walidim: that is what Twitter is for! :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Congratulations-I completely agree with ffcode, FF weighs more than Twitter in my opinion....unless you're going for mass, huge numbers...... - Harold Cabezas

agree with rob michael...and whats I in IRL, marcel - ffcode

Nice :) Curious though, if you could graph subscribers over time, would you say that the most recent 5,000 has been one of the slower periods of growth? - Andy Bold

I have almost 15K followers. - Dave Winer

Andy: a little slower but not much. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Look out, I'm only 49,800 behind you - Dave Hodson

Think about it - you can fill a stadium with that many people. - Mike Doeff from iPhone

Good to see you still around. This place is as fun as ever. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

Why not have a face-off with CNN? :) - James Harnedy

great attitude dave hudson - ffcode

Robert Scoble for Mayor of FriendFeed. - Thomas Hawk

I haven't been on friendfeed much really since the facebook announcement but it is nice to have something to fall back on when my beloved twitter is out. - Lise

You just followed me. I'm not following you yet.. Will do so if you accept my invite on Facebook that I sent to you a few years ago.. - #alaskareport

Johnny: I deleted about 10,000 Facebook invites and accept very few new ones, sorry. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Robert: On FriendFeed, we're all celebrities! And spammers. :) - Steve Lynch from twhirl

@ffcode - hmm, who exactly is dave "hudson"? - Dave Hodson

Congrats. Yeah, I haven't noticed much abuse on FriendFeed; but then again it's hardly used by the mainstream. - Joe Manna

Joe, what's not mainstream about 50,000 people? - Louis Gray

No problem. I just sent you another Facebook invite via Facebook Mail. Just now.. If not accepted then you're pulled from the contact list.. Do you need a Google Wave invite? I have 4 left.. tick tick tick.. ;-) - #alaskareport

what does that mean? i mean what good are you getting from those 50K followers? how many of them don't provide content back to you? - Jonathan Jesse

Time's up... ciao - #alaskareport

Ive hardly used friendfeed since facebook took over and (apparently) seem to want to 'run it down.' Pity. - Jim Connolly

sorry Dave Hodson ;) - ffcode

Basically I just open FriendFeed from time to time to see what Scoble's followers are writing (I loved the "castle" discussion) - Michael Slattery

& you know, my sub counts for like 10,000 of those :o) congrats big guy! - sofarsoShawn

congratulations, got any tips for the rest of us? how long have you been on friendfeed for? twitter(at)locspoc - Loc

Do you feel any pressure Robert? Does having such a huge number of followers bring more responsibility and quality of the content stress for you? - Ozkan Altuner

Spammers or not, 50k would be a sign of info overload for anyone: http://bit.ly/3KQSAz - Leif Hansen

Forgot to say: thanks for letting us join you here, Robert! - Kathy Fitch

Congrads Scoble on passing 50,000 followers! - polou/indigo_bow

Congrats for your first 50K -- on FF, even! Me, I'm still a little over 49,750 behind you... - Dennis Jernberg

Kudos to you Robert. - Roberto Bonini

Ozkan: I do feel some pressure to find good stuff and not to waste people's time because that waste is multiplied across so many. - Robert Scoble

Numbers is ossum! - david beckwith

Robert Scoble

jungleG: All the Google Wave Tricks I Know (So Far) http://ff.im/-9oJL9 - http://twitter.com/jungleG...

October 7 from Twitter / Favorites from... - Comment - Like - Share

Robert do you have an extra GW invite? If so, would you mind sending to wonderosity at gmail ? THnx - Leif Hansen

Robert Scoble

iamkhayyam: 10 Life Saving #Wordpress Plugins Often Ignored By Bloggers | http://j.mp/4Y7sN - http://twitter.com/iamkhay...

October 5 from Twitter / Favorites from... - Comment - Like - Share

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can you recommend any top wordpress themes? - Asif

Just installed 3 of them, thanks :) - Leif Hansen

Robert Scoble

Social media metrics? @pchaney asks. Only two matter: 1. Are you causing a conversation? 2. Are sales going up? All others are fluff.

August 28 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Kaan Bingol, Jan Firsching, Lora Lufark and 4 other people liked this

Except that presumably, you'd like to show a causal relationship between 1 and 2. - Ian Betteridge

Ian, exactly. That's the trick, huh? - Leif Hansen

conversation, sales & traffic - Jan Firsching

Leif Hansen

I have an idea that I think could greatly enhance social technologies which emphasize online discussions. Imagine having the *option* to set a limit on 1. The NUMBER of people who can reply, and, even better, 2. The DATE/TIME that a conversation CLOSES to new people.

August 28 - Comment - Like - Share

So, for example, I'd set my friendeed or blog post settings for a specific entry to only allow for 50 max new people, and no new joiners after 24 hrs. - Leif Hansen

The benefits of online conversations with participant and 'closed door' time limits? 1. It keeps the conversation more sane and cohesive 2. It creates an incentive to be an early joiner to the convo 3. It builds knowable/manageable relationships between a more realistic # of people 4. You don't have people skimming/skipping the whole conversation (too big) to then repeat the same thing as someone said earlier. Or perhaps the thread could remain open, but the original joiners convo is kept up top. - Leif Hansen

Robert Scoble

Joe: From now on, if I follow you and get an autoDM as a result, I will unfollow immediately #banautodm - http://twitter.com/Joe...

August 24 from Twitter / Favorites from... - Comment - Like - Share

Hugh Isaacs II, Leif Hansen, frank barry and 17 other people liked this

What is an audoDM? - Rich Puskarich

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Rich: it's when I follow you and within seconds I get a DM saying "thanks for adding me" or something like that. - Robert Scoble

Ah, got it. - Rich Puskarich

I hate impersonal DM's. I love personal DM's that tell me that people have taken a genuine interest in me. - Baard @ Pixum

Yeah I hate those too. I will automatically (by automatically I mean manually) remove that user from my followers/subscribers etc. - Travis Koger

and worse still if it contains some merketing URL - you need something more painful than an unfollow for those - Nicholas Paul Gordon

Be sure to add them to your auto-dmers list in SocialToo and more than just you will unfollow them. :-) (It's under the Unfollowing preferences on the left nav of your Preferences tab) - Jesse Stay

BTW, if you set the option on that page if they're already a recognized auto-dmer by more than 3 people we'll unfollow them for you after you follow them. - Jesse Stay

thats excellent SocialToo - thx Jesse - I'll be setting it up forthwith - Nicholas Paul Gordon

It's like ringing a call centre, being put on hold and hearing "your call is important to us" - Rhys Amos

I'm not sure if I agree guys. If an auto-DM has key information or questions or contact info from the person one has just followed (vs. a cheezy welcome or sales-pitch), what is wrong with that? - Leif Hansen

Leif: In most cases, that's not true. The auto DM is just "Thanks for following me! :)" Which is both annoying and pointless. - Kevin Pedraja

I agree, but the headliner tweet "if I follow you and get an autoDM as a result, I will unfollow immediately" is pretty black & white. Thus my point that an auto-tweet that adds value by expanding on who has just been followed, what's important to them, etc. can actually be a a good use of auto-DM technology. - Leif Hansen

I hate DMs as an idea. You can't keep track of them, you have to mutually follow, etc. - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)

Leif, if I want that information I'll go to your home page to get it. Don't spam me with it, even if it may be useful. The only way it's appropriate is if I know I'm going to get it before I follow you (as in what @optmeout for TweetLater is doing). - Jesse Stay

Hold on here, @Scoble and @Jesse I learned about auto DM from you guys a while back and decided to use auto DM as a way to say thanks for following those who followed me. However, I did not send marketing links etc. I started doing auto dm through SocialToo to be courteous to others just by saying hi and thanks. Just as well I used auto follow thru SocialToo and now I'm capped on... more... - Jason Cronkhite from iPhone

Jason I NEVER used or advocated the use of autoDM. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Is Twitter down right now? - Uniquely Cool

Joe, as for me, we only promoted it when no one else was doing it. I admit I was wrong in that case - it looked like a good tool at the time, but got WAY out of hand as everyone else started to use it. We killed it, and lost quite a lot of traffic because of that. - Jesse Stay

Uniquely, it looks that way, at least from an API standpoint. - Jesse Stay

ok, good... because I thought I was going insane. lol - Uniquely Cool

Too bad Twitter doesn't just block autoDM. - Zachary Collins

I understand how it can be annoying for heavy users, even if intended as a polite gesture by regular people. So, I generally let the follow-back do the 'talking'. I think you're making too much of this though. Unless there's actual spam or marketing in the auto-DM, why unfollow someone you originally found interesting enough to follow? - Matsis

Blanket bans are bad. There are situations where autoDMs may be necessary. - Dominic Jones

necessary? in what situation could they possibly be *necessary*? - holly

Does anyone actually read the AutoDM's they receive? - Asgeir

When you 'subscribe' to someone's blog or newsletter, there is often a welcome message with important information automatically sent. Is it that different if 1 initial welcome message comes to those who click to 'follow' you (already says they are interested in you, no?) Just curious, not saying I'm buying a belief on this one yet. - Leif Hansen

Robert, I stand corrected - sorry! I learned about SocialToo from you and assimilated the two. http://scobleizer.com/2008... - Jason Cronkhite

Robert Scoble

rickmans: Inside Out: Interaction Design for Augmented Reality http://bit.ly/16TpnG - http://twitter.com/rickman...

August 19 from Twitter / Favorites from... - Comment - Like - Share

Alex Kapranoff, Susan Beebe, Jemm and 7 other people liked this

Excellent, though long, article on Augmented Reality. AR excites and terrifies me. Do we want to be any more scattered & distracted? Aren't we already unaware of and unappreciative of real reality? Also makes we wonder about 'Social AR'...big convo there. - Leif Hansen from iPhone

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Robert, in all your wanderings, what do you see as the most promising AR app out now or out soon? - Leif Hansen

Leif: I haven't seen/used enough to really judge that well yet. - Robert Scoble

The article seemed to imply that AR apps have high initial 'wow' factor, but fade quick. I can imagine that, but haven't tried anything beyond Paralell Kingdom & Geocaching (which only loosely fit). I do think that AR will be a 09-10 HOT tech though. - Leif Hansen

Leif, good points. I did 3 presentations on Augmented Reality remotely which included a quote by Dietrich Bonhoeffer which themed something along the lines you're thinking. Like all things, it has its dark/light side/uses some of which may be better left alone. of the various applications that I studied (excluding military and fiducial marker systems) I was intrigued by applications in augmented reality car repair and building wiring, etc.. - Melanie Reed

Thanks Melanie. Yes, I could see if you were already in a 'technical' situation (like your examples), adding another layer of tech to augment/enrich your skills/learning would be fine. It's the times when you're really just wanting/needing to notice and enjoy RL when the 'itch' to 'augment' it seems to show its dark side. - Leif Hansen

Leif, very much agree with your observation. We are getting deeper and deeper into a world that almost screams for the cursory out of both desperation and desire. It wants and it doesn't stop wanting it..now. ;) Augmented Reality is almost a contradiction in that it promises to let you see what is hidden while distracting you and I from from the truth hiding in plain sight. - Melanie Reed

Nice way to put it. I was talking with a friend ( @antic ) a few months ago about these things --he's a pretty enthusiastic posthumanist --and he was talking about how soon we'll be getting all these extra inputs in automatically (hardwired, etc.) when I thought "Wait a second. What about the part of us that actually *experiences* these inputs, our conscious awareness, our spirit,... more... - Leif Hansen

BTW Melanie, what did you mean by 'the cursory' ( I think I know, but wd love to hear more)... - Leif Hansen

Leif, It's probably what you thought: those things which can be looked at or over lightly or that which we deconstruct so it can fit into that category - Melanie Reed

hello. i've also been thinking a lot about AR, but more in the context of the 'fascination of the spectacle'. i can relate to what melanie reed said. here's my take on it (taken from my post): "We’re living in a time where the most prosperous societies are immersed in digital visual culture. While this immersion has given birth to new ways of seeing the world, it has also been largely... more... - delunna

deluna, Yes, your thought: " The dominance of the visual dimension makes us more likely to see — and look — at the appearance of things, not at their underlying relationships. " is extending upon what I meant by the growing preoccupation with "the cursory". The reason I tied Bonhoeffer into the mix is that his quote was dealing with being aware of how one's reality was being framed. In... more... - Melanie Reed

Augmented reality could be the next big thing in mobile technology - can't wait! - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

melanie, "Where will our pursuit of technology such as AR call us? and how will it reframe our reality?" -those are indeed thought-provoking questions and the same ones i mull on when thinking of AR /virtual reality. i wonder on what changes it will bring on how we see/think/imagine the world and how we will be changed by this shifting/augmenting/recreating of reality. i've got a huge... more... - delunna

oops, clicked that cooment button too quickly. ;-p some tweets ago, i mentioned that another thing that i'm looking forward to is when AR becomes more social. right now the current apps are understandably focused more on information/data dissemination. i can imagine even more creative apps popping up once it evolves into more social and shared experiences (social re-creations of realities?) - delunna

Yes, Susan, it will. A couple of the big players have already set the stage for that to happen - Melanie Reed

An AR morality for instance for you: Your apt building or housing edition is considering allowing a fiducial marker system to be installed. Now anyone (including thieves) can know the layout, exits, your wiring, who lives in what house, how many people are inside at any given moment, etc. of your area by using a mobile device that is tuned to your system. Do you vote "yes" at the next building association meeting or "no" - Melanie Reed

Melanie, Chesterton's "Ethics of Elfland" was one of my favorite essays in grad school. I wrote a paper on it. - Leif Hansen

Leif Hansen

Any men out there ever participated in a 'Mankind Project' retreat? (I know, corny name, but friends testify it was transformational)

August 19 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

What is it? - Andru Edwards

http://www.mkp.org "The ManKind Project® is a progressive men's organization striving to be increasingly inclusive and affirming of cultural differences, especially with respect to color, class, sexual orientation, faith, age, ability, ethnicity, and nationality. The ManKind Project® is an educational organization committed to empowering men to missions of service. Our trainings support... more... - Leif Hansen

BTW, I was impressed that I received 3 personal responses, all participants of MKP who had really good experiences. - Leif Hansen

Leif Hansen

"Turning off the distracting parts of the Internet" RescueTime considers cool new featuer: http://blog.rescuetime.com/2009...

August 19 from Facebook - Comment - Like - Share

Oops, forgot to credit @scobleizer for that one: http://tinyurl.com/ml7tb9 - Leif Hansen

Robert Scoble

rackcloud: Turning off the Distracting Parts of the Internet (interesting feature, what do you think?) http://bit.ly/gqx7H - http://twitter.com/rackclo...

August 19 from Twitter / Favorites from... - Comment - Like - Share

Leif Hansen and Alex Kapranoff liked this

Wow, I love the idea. I've suggested that apps/services like RescueTime & Time-Out (BreakReminder) & "Freedom" (for mac) join forces. Looks like its happening through a feature like this. Very cool. Though my latest version of RT for some reason isn't loading...grrr, stats for whole last week are toast. - Leif Hansen

Melanie Reed

"Fairy tales are more than true — not because they tell us dragons exist, but because they tell us dragons can be beaten."-G.K.Chesterton After a discouraging return on my last quiz (and not a few tears) I am working to slay the dragon math!

August 18 - Comment - Like - Share

I remember when Tolkien said something similar on his essay on FairyTales (Something about rivers flowing with wine so that we could see the magic that they flowed with water) - Leif Hansen

l0ckergn0me

To Everyone Going to Gnomedex 9.0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

August 19 from YouTube favorites - Comment - Like - Share

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Were you 'liking' this as a joke, or ? - Leif Hansen

Is this guy alright? - Andru Edwards

Leif Hansen

With Colabs, we've co-created a supportive, collaborative and creative environment that enables you to increase clarity on your next actions, what strategies to use, and how to most productively proceed. The innovative support structure combines engaging interactivites, empowering presentations, and stimulating peer discussions that will boost...

August 19 - Comment - Like - Share

...your confidence and focus, so you can take ground quickly, with less wasted worry and debilitating distractions. (I forgot that FF had a limit as well) - Leif Hansen

Molly Gordon

We chose MaestroConference for The Self Employment Telesummit events. Learn more & get free reports. http://maestroconference.com/special...

August 19 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Liked Maestro for @markheartofbiz Heart of Money class. The option for breakout groups had great potential - Leif Hansen from Nambu

Glad to hear you liked it, Leif. I have more to learn, but so far it is really fine. - Molly Gordon

Eric Weaver

http://twitpic.com/eh46b - @naturespath, @starbucks, @alaskaair and @comcastcares at Social Media Club Seattle, 8/18/09.

August 19 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Wow, looks like you guys had a beautiful meeting spot for SMC yesterday. Keep hoping to make it to one of those. - Leif Hansen

Chris Brogan

How I Manage Facebook - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/how-i-m...

August 19 from chrisbrogan.com - Comment - Like - Share

Iván Abrego, Yvette Ferry, Michelle and 5 other people liked this

Great Points here. Running any kind of ads on facebook is a waste.. I mainly use FB to keep in contact with close friends and as a networking tool that can help me gain insight on my network friends i have as well, mainly because you can get a more personal feel for them and people like doing business with others who are passionate about the same things. I do like how the fan pages are improving though! - Nicholas Martini

Yup, FB rule for me (95%) is only people I've met in RL and like (which is most people I've taken the time to get to know) - Leif Hansen from Nambu

Robert Scoble

Hacker Dojo, finally a hangout where coders can go 24/7 - http://venturebeat.com/2009...

August 13 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

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That's cool! Reading up on the benefits for $100. - Jason Cronkhite

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i'd love a place where i can hang out 24/7 and just code or do work and relax while doing so! - Justin

Don't see any mention of benefits besides space and wifi but looks like a great melting pot for building stuff. - Jason Cronkhite

I think coworking space will see a big boom in the near future. My favorite in Seattle is Office Nomads: Very cool, creative community: http://www.officenomads.com - Leif Hansen

Cool idea.. but $100 a month? - Tim Hoeck

ya gotta be one heckuva coder to afford it. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

David Geller

Just made two calls from Beijing to the US via Skype on the iPhone. Fantastic quality. Really quite remarkable.

June 11 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Really? I've tried, albeit only a couple times now, and haven't had great quality with skype on twitter - Leif Hansen

Leif Hansen

Fascinating Apple Store Story: I just went in to buy a macbook (U village). I was told by a staff member that a new promotion starts today for students/teachers ($100 off the macbook, free ipod touch) and that I should just bring someone in with a student card. I did just that, went outside and found a student :) But...

May 27 - Comment - Like - Share

When I went to buy it, the salesperson (Gene) told me it was "against the spirit of the promotion" and that it was basically unethical. I told him that another staff member suggested it, and I declined saying there name to protect the person. We then had a debate that ended in my agreeing that going outside and finding someone was probably a bad idea (though it was suggested) for if everyone did that, it could be chaos. However, he gradually gave in that if I just called my brother down here (a student) and did essentially the same thing, it would be fine. I was both alarmed, nervous and impressed at how passionately he 'defended' the 'spirit' of the offer and of the company he works for. I need to take some time to see what I really think about all this...Aren't we all just playing business games? And as a consumer, if I can legally play a game to my advantage, is that bad? - Leif Hansen

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how does apple determine whether you are a student? an .edu email address? a student card? my initial reaction was that there was an assumption that only young people were students.. - Kara Carrell

@ideagiant My intention wasn't to subvert Apple, but to save $ in a way suggested by their staff - Leif Hansen

Ha, and now it looks like 1 week later, APPLE's lowered the price by $100 for everyone! - Leif Hansen

Leif Hansen

The creative conscious entrepreneur's foundational question: "What do the people I most enjoy connecting with really need or want right now and how can I creatively meet that need/want in a way that is true to my core identity and passion(s)?" (IMHO)

June 11 - Comment - Like - Share

What do you think? - Leif Hansen

Anthony Stevens

RT @barcampseattle: and we bust over the 300 mark with a vengeance! Have you registered yet? http://www.barcamp.org/BarCamp...

June 11 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

300 registered for Barcamp, wow! I'm hoping I can still make it at least for sat. - Leif Hansen

Robert Scoble

I'm getting a look at http://www.peoplebrowsr.com OH MY GAWD. Friendfeed support. And they fixed the "Scoble bug" that kept my long list of rooms and lists.

May 27 from PeopleBrowsr - Comment - Like - Share

RetiredTeacherD, Jannifer @wordsforliving, John and 37 other people liked this

I need to do a post on the various Enterprise clients here some time. PeopleBrowsr has them all topped I think. - Jesse Stay

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I like that Jodee really listens to those that use these apps and he and his team have put countless hours behind the scenes trying to implement the feedback. - Jesse Stay

Wow! When did they push all of this out! I tried Streamy, but you can not filter the news right. Will try Pbrowsr again. - Chad Harris

Thanks for the love guys. We spent a lot of time listening and pushing new code; sometimes every night. Download the Air client once you launch the web page if you want "popup" updates, and a bit more real-estate on-screen! - Gadget Guy Dave Mathews

It keeps telling me that my password is wrong. Both with Twitter and Facebook logins. - Andrés David Aparicio

Started playing with it an hour or so ago... this may just become my weapon of choice! - Peter Liu

The problem in Safari repeats in Firefox with the Facebook login... [edited in FF] and it cut this comment (it finished with "Adding stacks now!") :( - Andrés David Aparicio from PeopleBrowsr

Love it. Now this is what you call steroids! - Jennifer Windrum

Having a look at PeopleBrowser now, like the breadth of services it supports. - Clifford Kennedy

I sent ya a link there last week ;) - Leif Hansen

Does it support more than one Twitter account? Doesn't look like it unless I'm missing something...could very well be after staring at my computer all day......Just got my answer via Twitter!!! - Jennifer Windrum

Hey Dave Mathews: The 'Expand" and the "Campaigns" have a lot of work into them. what is your personal favorite feature? - Chad Harris

Yes Jennifer, it does. Look for it in the Accounts page (the link is at the bottom of the page). - Andrés David Aparicio from email

@chad My favorite feature on Campaigns is "auto reply" where it builds a reply based upon keywords you insert. You can do many different replies for different keywords within a campaign. You can then edit them to customize before sending (look in your scheduled stack to see them waiting) Other feature I like is Air client (full screen + pop-ups) and Helicopter view to track all stacks in a single column! - Gadget Guy Dave Mathews

@Mathew Thanks I see them all lined up like 757 on JFK on a rainy day! Love the Campaigns. I opened Chrome then set up 15 columns and drug it across two screens and they are all resized and saved fast. I must say after seeing this, if they told me I had switch to Twitter only as it exists today, I would rather have David Beckham kick me in the groin wearing a frozen dutch clog! Seeing is believing! Thanks for a sleepless night ahead as I play with the features. - Chad Harris

(Unless there is some super double secret beta version that is not available from visiting the linked URL) I have to say I'm entirely underwhelmed by this service. - BryanSchuetz

The Campaign features would either be a turn on or turn off. For me, they delivered something I did not get from Seesmic I desperately needed in my business. It all comes down to what you are using it for. - Chad Harris

And, By all means everyone, If you have questions or troubles with anything. We are here to help. You can send me a message or @PeopleBrowsr on Twitter, or post a question in the PeopleBrowsr Room here. We're always listening. :-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

Andres: We've notice an occasional truncation posting into FriendFeed. We're tracking that error down asap! (It has happened to me as well) - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

When PeopleBrwsr first came out in its alpha, I liked the *idea* but I found the user experience wanting. The beta version is so much better. There's a bit of a learning curve with all the features available, but I think it's worth the effort. So far I've only used it as a Twitter client, but I'll test FF. This could top the other clients (desktop version is nice too). - phil baumann

Rob: Great! Because the app looks good, congrats! - Andrés David Aparicio from email

Jennifer: Multiple Twitter accounts are supported. Once you enter in your credentials for the second account there will be two avatars in the top right corner, as well as on top of the Twitter stacks. Just select the avatar you want to "Be" and the tweets for that account will load. If you select both avatars, both sets of tweets will load, and replies will be sent from the Primary account - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

Andrés: Thanks! We all really appreciate it :-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

trouble with firefox.... - Tim Robb

Tim: What kind of trouble? You're welcome to DM me if you'd like - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

Impressive, really really impressive. Actually it just became the weapon of choice. - Amiroo ™

Congrats Rob to you and people browser team for this lovely product though you should know that it doesn't have that much a good first impression as I saw it before but didn't understand how big it is. May be a introduction video in the homepage may help. - Amiroo ™

FF UI kicks PeopleBrowsr's butt so I won't be using it to replace this site, however, this is the most powerful twitter/ FB/ etc client I have seen yet. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Leif Hansen

Question for you guys, especially people like @Chrisbrogan & @Scobleizer (who seem to be constantly wired). Do you have SPECIFIC boundaries for tech use (i.e. Places -no cell @ family dinner; Times -no Net after 8pm; Topics -no talking about partner's personal biz). As we become increasingly wired, do you think people need to articulate boundaries?

May 19 - Comment - Like - Share

Johan Bakken, phil baumann, K.D. and 37 other people liked this

Not sure about 'articulating' them, but definitely need the ability to set them - Mo Kargas

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By articulating, I mean taking the time to conciously choose boundaries, and expressing them clearly with those who'd want to know them. - Leif Hansen

Anyone want to speak up on this? Not easy one for us early adopters, but... - Leif Hansen

I think it's funny that you called it 'wired' when soon we will have these things as either integrated biological attachments or wireless brain scanning devices. At my house we try hard not to have phones and laptops at the dinner table but it's usually a big fail. However, I have a rigid calendar I stick to that keeps my computer closed during time with my daughter :) - Adam Eivy

My line is at my bedroom door. Well, except you can see that I have two sons and a third on the way so you can guess that something happens in there. ;-) But, seriously, there's very few things @maryamie and I won't blog about. If we have a fight we probably won't blog about it until we talk it out. Adding other people's input to that often changes those kinds of things. We both watched... more... - Robert Scoble

It's not all good. I try to choose moments to share with you. Only the really interesting ones. Watching me type into friendfeed or play with Milan isn't the kind of thing I want to share, so don't. At least not usually. - Robert Scoble

Probably at Church or in any religious services... - kazumi iwakura

Heh. I TOTALLY use stuff at church. Texting, checking email, etc. It's all relevant. :-D Then again, I'm not Scoble or Chris Brogan. Clearly. :-) - Lisa L. Seifert

While I'm very responsive and available, over time I have started to observe a few boundaries and share limits on a need to know basis (otherwise some overstep). This has been a work in progress, I come from a corporate background where we were pretty much on electronic leashes (even on vacation overseas; colleague had to postpone a honeymoon (that couldn't have gone over well, imho)).... more... - Casey

Not when eating--I don't want to get any sort of fluid on my electronics. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

Nothing after 11 p.m. Eastern time. Oops. Good night. - Bruce Lewis

It is difficult because it is partly due to addiction and partly due to necessary work. - ashish

As a tech professional it gets more and more difficult to stay away from all the gadgets which keep you connected plus the whole shebang of social media out there. I try to set boundaries whenever i notice myself spending way too much time online. No gadgets at dinner or at the gym and if i can help it then sometimes even when i am going out. - Bhowmik Shah

@Scobleizer claims he reads 20,000+ tweets/day every day, which requires 5.5+ hours/day of nonstop reading. So, no, he can't possibly have any "unwired" time. - Chris Spizzirri

Chris: I never claimed 20,000 every day. I said 10s of thousands. I can easily do that. In one day I cleaned out more than 3,000 emails and still had time left. - Robert Scoble

I typically clear if I want to talk abut something online about the other person and actually refer to them. Nothing that was mentioned in private, private company details, nothing meant just between friends, etc. I try very hard to set aside some amount of time for my girlfriend though with being a full time student and working it's diffucult to find that time. Other than that no other real rules, typically don't mess with it much if at all while eating at the table that sort of thing. - Justin Yost

The biggest thing is that people who don't understand my use of technology don't see how I can spend so much time online and both still get value out of it and still have more that I want to do online. - Justin Yost

Not in restaurants, because I don't want to look like a jerk. That's why I don't often go to restaurants; I do more take-out than anything. Not in movie theaters after previews (and rarely during previews, but I do at least like to mention I'm about to watch something), because I know the light bothers others. I do not name my employer, friends, family, co-workers, or my TKD master. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

The only boundries I have are the ones set up by my girlfriend. She goes crazy if I bring my MacBook to the bedroom. I find that I like being 'off' every now and then, though. - Jon Gosier

only on vacation, then it is limited to 10 minutes a day to make sure there are no fires and the universe is ok... - Jamie Ginsberg

Actually, there are lots of boundaries. I never brightkite my home's location. My birthday isn't April 1. I don't talk much about my wife because she values her privacy. I don't write much about the inner workings of my parent company (though I share lots about my own company). Tons more. Rule is, when I'm home with the family, no computer until theyre all in bed. - Chris Brogan

Yeah, bedroom. And funerals. Movie theaters. - Rachel Walden

The picture makes me think of "Videodrome". - Tim Tyler

Besides the fact that multitasking wastes time, I think if you are always wired, during certain situations where your full attention is required, you're not appropriately focused if you're also trying to tweet. - Rick Cogley

Thank you guys for the honest, insightful answers. The irony is that you chose to answer this question during my net-free afternoon (doing some deep reflection in which I find screens keep me at the surface). I just peeked at my email and saw 23 replies so wanted to say Ill reply in more detail later :) - Leif Hansen

The keep things seperate I haven't upgraded the computer at home. So, this really limits of what I can do online while I'm at home. I don't have a cellphone either. Just lots of hours while "at work" connected and totally immersed and marketing, networking and connecting like crazy. - Mathias Eichler

We try to ban mobiles at the table - but between me, my wife and five kids under 20 it doesn't last - Thom Kennon

Thom, I agree on banning mobiles. I'd say, nix them during performances or talks (depending of course on the social situation), meals, study. We make our daughters leave theirs downstairs when they go to their rooms. - Rick Cogley

Robert Scoble

I made a promise years ago to never use PowerPoint in front of an audience again. So, how do I organize a presentation? Mind Manager.

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It's magic. Frees your mind from the stupid bullet list that bores audiences to death. Every time I see a PowerPoint deck my brain turns off. - Robert Scoble

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I have used this for years, great communication tool - Mel Buckpitt

i prefer personalbrain. not as easy to use as mind manager but powerful nonetheless. - Daniel Langendorf

Robert, as a former highschool teacher, I can assure you that Powerpoint is the evil enemy of learning...and yet every school insisted teachers started using it because the schools thought PP "was" technology...yikes. Advice? Tell stories with passion and understanding. - Daniel Kenney

Daniel: I totally agree. The way schools teach technology just makes me ill. - Robert Scoble

anyone ever try prezi.com? it's a bit different-- much more visual - Ted Curran

So instead of Powerpoint™, use a real presentation platform that allows interactive data and tactile response to both you and your audience. - Eric Martindale

i have been working on a new keynote /powerpoint method I can - Ted Curran

PowerPoint is only a problem in that it makes it way too easy to just make lists of bullet points. They almost force you to go down that path. If they could somehow turn that off, and just provide the functionality to create a series of slides, each of which had a line or two of text, an image, etc... I don't think it'd get such a bad rap. - Ken Sheppardson

*call "Attention Method"-- it's a way to use PPT or Apple Keynote not in the way the program wants to be used but in the way people's minds work - Ted Curran

similar to other software noted is my favorite.. Big Mouth - Daniel Kenney

What makes Mind Manager the first platform to come to mind? I have never heard of it until right now. - Amani

I agree Daniel Kenney :( - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Amani: I saw Buzz Bruggeman give a talk with it and was mesmerized. - Robert Scoble

Try Prezi, and if you have some time to devote to it, Keynote. Both are really pretty impressive. - Ivan

I came across http://prezi.com last month, worth a look. It has sort of a tv commercial look, like the 2-d Ford pickup commercials. - Tanner Powell

Too bad Mind Manager on the mac feels utterly abandoned. I switched to mac, but haven't used MindManager since. A real pity. - Phil Calvin

I kind of like Prezi too. Very visual. Depends on the situation I suppose. - Kim Feraday

Keynote. - Jeremy Franklin

sure. try www.prezi.com. its amazing - gatza

I don't want to get into a PowerPoint bashing thing here, but I agree it's bad. Another thing I've noticed is that the boring speakers usually have the most elaborate PP presentations. Yikes. - Missionary Broadcasting

I'm a big fan of MindManager as well. Once you're done conceptualizing your presentation, Powerpoint (or any other presentation tool) can obviously be used as an effective tool. Powerpoint isn't innately evil, it's just too easy to miss-use. If you want to try a different tool give sliderocket.com a try. (but I'd stick with Mindmanager) - Jason Goldberg

Well that's two programs I had no idea existed 15 minutes ago. - Dean Clark

Do you use iThoughts iPhone app? I use it every day and they just upgraded to allow Mind Manager export - Dave

Prezi is too difficult to learn for anyone - it is supercool but if you want to get right down to working, forget it - I wish I could use it - for mindmaps to me nothing beats MindMeister both for presentation materials as well for organizing ideas and tools - it is much easier and immediate than any other mindmapping tool I have tried, including having a full revisions history, working... more... - Robin Good

In the end the vote of PowerPoint chastity should really be targeted at avoiding making the "types" of PowerPoint slideshows that are so bad. Bad choice of images, too much text, and you reading them as you show them. It is not the tool so much, but the culture we have built around it. Whether with PowerPoint, Keynote, Sliderocket, OpenOffice or GoogleDocs the power of your presentation... more... - Robin Good

I wholeheartedly agree with you..PP is horrible! I refuse to use it and I've made a point to reject ppt files that colleagues send me with slides re design changes. I'll have to give MindManager a try..sounds great. - Sufian Siddiqi from fftogo

Prezi does look cool. I definitely need to take it for a spin. - Alexander Grundner

Chalk board & elaborate hand gestures - sofarsoShawn

The issue with powerpoint (and keynote) is that the flow of the presentation is completely locked in, and the presentation environment is unchanging. Mindmanager (or Freemind) allows branching, and the ability to store extra content for questions (only use as needed). Powerpoint or equivalent is good for building a screen when you want one that can dynamically build. An alternative way... more... - Alistair Nicholson

Come on! it's not the tool but the human mind behind the use of it! - Stefanos Karagos

I used to use Thebrain.com personal brain for the same purpose. I stopped when I moved to multiplatforms (Mac and linux as well as Windows). I just checked back at the site to find that it is now available cross-platform (haven't checked that the data files are yet tho). I might be remaking contact with an old friend! I liked the easy way one could use local files or web resources. By... more... - Alistair Nicholson

@alistair: It is possible to branch PowerPoint -presentations with hyperlinks that jump from slide to another. Never considered it, but interesting idea. For example, after determining audience level, it could skip slides that explain basic things for experienced audience. - Jemm

I like Mind Manager. Wish i had a reason to use it. - Rodfather

Mind Manager rocks on a tablet pc - Mel Buckpitt

Definitely. That was the last time I used it. It integrated with OneNote well too. - Rodfather

I have been using Mind Manager for almost a year now exclusively for all my presentations. People love the refreshing look .. and so do I ;-) - Remkus de Vries

Check out the free pptplex from Office Labs which is an add in for PP that gives you a similar zooming interface as Prezi. http://www.officelabs.com/project... - Jamie

Alistair: That is exactly how I use PersonalBrain. I have it set up in Dropbox and am able to access it with any computer. It's worth a look-see again. It's also worth using to flesh out ideas for presentations, too, no matter what tool you end up using. - Daniel Langendorf

Use Prezi at Prezi.com! ;) or sliderocket.com - Csaba Mad

I am adoring Prezi - just the freshness of the look gives you a 50% boost in new biz meetings, and I really haven't found it at all hard to learn to use - Jamie

Easy, use Keynote. - Diego Barros 

Last week i was thinking how lame PP is and actually did a presentation at college bashing it. The tool i've used for that was Prezi.com, the one mentioned by a lot of ppl in this thread. You should give them some love, definetely a great worth a look tool. - Diego Sana

I got tired of trying to find the perfect presentation technique and ended up developing my own http://mlx.netii.net/templat... not perfect, but it works for me. - MLx

Daniel & Jemm - thanks for that. I've just installed personalbrain on the Mac and opened some old brains done in the PC (aahh nostalgia). I really missed it as a tool. I've been using freemind, which does have some very good features, but personalbrain is still a better tool for this sort of work. Thanks. - Alistair Nicholson

Jemm - in some cases I will just generate one or two slides using ppt or similar. By exporting them they become individual objects that I can mix and match - or call on as I need, without having to consider how to jump to them within the powerpoint package. Powerpoint (or keynote) then becomes a graphic slide authoring tool that just generates some components or objects I use in my... more... - Alistair Nicholson

I have presented for many years with MindManager. Its great for interactive presentations. Tomorrow I will use it present to a conference of independent financial advisers on the subject of mind mapping and mind mapping software. I humbly suggest they will remember my hour more than the 5 other hours of PowerPoint. This is web version summary. http://twurl.nl/24rzyv - Andrew Wilcox

Final Cut...create a video! - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny

Powerpoint is not the problem but how it is used.... take a look at Presentation Zen (book/website) :-) - Gianfranco Chicco

Powerpoint is a time sink - whenever I have had to use it I ended up using more time fixing the presentation than focusing on the message. Can't remember which company took powerpoint off the systems and said they measured a productivity increase... or if it is a digital legend... but from my experience I can believe it. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

"It's a poor workman who blames his tools" -- old proverb - Karim

Will you post your preso somewhere, would be great to see how you use it in place of powerpoint. - jcunwired

Meh. Powerpoint is a tool to put stuff on screen. As long as you're not just reading off it... - Yuvi

Mindmanager is a great App! I love to pull it up in meetings and just capture the ideas as they flow. Afterwards as a team we organize the information and then put it into a outline for others. Its wows the team every time! For presentations I've seen this used pretty well but if you try to print it out for users afterwards it takes more time to do (open all the collapsed trees.) I've... more... - CW™

Just convert powerpoint slides into pdf and present pdf to the audience.Although I am not a great fan of PDF or for that matter any powerpoint like software. - ashish

ashish: you're not getting it. There's nothing worse to do to an audience than to present a standard powerpoint deck to them. The format is NOT what makes that boring. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Flash is the answer but it's a pain to learn and expensive to outsource, but that's the answer I think. Besides that, Mindjet MindManager is a fantastic peice of software - Brandon Hall

Keynote. - Johnny

You're right, it's not the format, nor is it Powerpoint. It is not using it to in an engaging way. - Dennis Beatty

Robert,Sorry for misinterpreting your question. This one is a really tricky question. - ashish

I often find slides take away from the message - people are reading the slide text instead of looking at and listening to the speaker, and the speaker is looking at the slides instead of at the audience. I wouldnt mind the speaker looking at the screen if he was demonstrating something (or writing, in the old blackboard style) but in a way slides which were supposed to support the presentation end up taking away from it. Too passive? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Much of my hourly pay job is presentations. Very interested in playing with new tools. Will review prezi, mindmanager, sliderocket, and personal brain - Mark Essel

prezi is pretty amazing mark. i also use Free Mind but have never used it for a presentation... - Morgan

wishing for 2nd like or something to bump this up higher amongst my likes and discussions - metalerik

dream about it http://mindmappingsoftwareblog.com/ - bonuck (e gli associati?)

I have a talk tomorrow morning at my kids' school about technology in education. I was brainstorming it in Curio and Keynote, but I bought Prezi Pro just cuz it looks so cool. It's a little quirky, a little buggy, and not as flexible as, say Keynote, but it sure is a unique look. Mindmapping + Presentations. - Leo Laporte

Nothing wrong with Powerpoint, it's just a tool. I do just fine with it and Keynote. Sounds like it's a presenter issue if you're bored - Bwana ☠

I love mindmanager, but its license is toooo stupidly and insanely expensive!! - Mohamed Salem Korayem

yeah I love using xmind for organizing talking points but I don't normally use them to present - most audiences don't grok them ime - mike "glemak" dunn

I'm sorry, trying to learn. I have a 30 slide presentation (+-10) that i present to customers around the world usually in a room of about 10 people. What could Mind Manager do that PPT isn't doing? - Steve C

For everyone looking to learn more about using MindManager for presentations, I have written up a number of posts on the Mindjet blog that talks about how to do it, some best practices and sample maps. The most popular post in the series was from PresentationCamp SF, "Become a Presentation Superhero": http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... while other posts covered using images, colors, and fonts within your mind maps. Check'em out or contact me if you have questions! - Michael Deutch

thx michael, bookmarked. - Steve C

ah, michael good to see you here - for those who don't know him michael is mindjet’s chief evangelist & one of the hardest working community engagement folks on the net - i use xmind because i test lots of open source tools but have been a customer of mindjet for years & love mindmanager :) - mike "glemak" dunn

Yeah thanks Michael, I've been wanting to see some examples/how-to's about using MindManager for presentations. - Justin Hopkins

Actually I spoke too soon. I'm curious to see some video of a person "giving a talk with it" like you said Robert. Do you have any recordings of some of yours of the Buzz Bruggeman talk you mentioned? - Justin Hopkins

I find using a Mind Map a lot easier for people to follow and sparks a lot more collaboration from the group. - Jim Lavin

Robert try Prezi:http://prezi.com/ - Dean Kakridas

If you hate Powerpoint, Robert & friends, then you have to check out Edward Tufte's essay "The Cognitive Style of Powerpoint: Pitching Out Corrupts Within." It's brilliant. And the cover still cracks me up: http://tr.im/lXjv - Alan Mairson

Funny thing for me is that I've always made fun of PP style presentations and have been known as someone who really gets groups interacting, etc. (check out this clip of a game I led at Seattle Mindcamp -http://tinyurl.com/qjathj) BUT, just recently, I've discovered that for my type of improvised, interactive, often scattered, creative style --powerpoint is actually a good (much needed!) balance. So I've been upping the KeyNote. MultiModal is the way :) - Leif Hansen

Robin Good: great comment on MindMeister.com - present.io is a very interesting app to keep track of, if you are doing a lot of online presentations. I use Skype screen share (Mac) for Coaching and presenting ways and methods to use applications. - Jan Friman from Nambu

How about having a standard cheaper version of mindmanager. I dont use all the awesome features version 8 - Mohamed Salem Korayem

Jemm and others - I'm back having been in the most boring presentation today that I have experienced in a very long time - powerpoint slides of the most horrible structure, plus given over a video conferencing tool where the presenter didn't read any of the questions in the typing area! Thebrain has a free version. What I've found is that because I use tiddlywiki (also free) to organise... more... - Alistair Nicholson

just a quick reaction to the person who suggested video - what can video add if you are there in person? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

@Joelle a video is a way to engage the audience and let the main messages be reminded. Your role there is to give the right introduction to the video and then open and manage the discussion after it. People will partecipate more to teh discussion. That's my personal experience by the way! - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny

Robert, I agree & use MindManager for presentations, as well as various project information summaries, trying to stick to a "one sheet" philosophy for reports. One of my pet peeves is presenters who read the bullets on a PPT. Yikes! - Rick Cogley

Joelle (thanks Michela) another use of video is short interviews or contributions. For example case studies with a manager from the customer explaining their problem, a business analyst explaining their technique around a specific problem, a web designer talking about how they 'imagine' the personality of a site, demonstration of an experimental technique with a patient. It creates... more... - Alistair Nicholson

I also meant to draw attention to Lief's comment about multi modal and how sometimes a powerpoint slide can present the underlying structure or main points of the presentation. I still believe there can be a place for dot points - so long as they are not the sole content. I believe there are few that would suggest Steve Jobs' presentations are boring, for example. Always worth a watch and they can be found on youtube. Other exemplars are the top rated talks on TED.com.It gives me something to aim for. - Alistair Nicholson

FreeMind is very useful and Open Source. Give it a try! - Nicola Junior Vitto

just got into Amode 4 project mgmt. same company @MindSystems. imports @MindJet. - Courtney Engle

IMHO, my best tool is a whiteboard, and second place, a notebook with squares to plan a sort of storyboard. When I switch back to analog planning, I started to get my best results back on PowerPoint (I love 2007 version). Cheers, - Rolando Peralta

Wow, what a great thread! I explored some best practices for presentations and wrote the following posts on the Mindjet blog. They could apply for any type of presentation but they're primarily focused on mind mapping...The first: 10 Steps to Great Presentation Maps -- http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... - Michael Deutch

Next, How to Make a Great Presentation: Mapping Your Content -- This one applies to using mind maps to 'think through' your presentation content, regardless of what tool you select for the actual presentation: http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... - Michael Deutch

Your use of colors will impact the audience. Use them well! The Secrets of Using Colors in Maps - http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... - Michael Deutch

What’s a Picture Worth? Here's a post about incorporating images into mind map presentations. http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... -- I saw an interesting tweet from Andrew Wilcox earlier today where he suggested placing large images inside 'topic notes'. - Michael Deutch

Prezi reminds me of microsoft photosynth. - ashish

And finally, here are a couple of posts about fonts in your mind map presentations: 10 Fixes for Font Foibles! (http://blog.mindjet.com/2009...) and More Fun for Font Fanatics (http://blog.mindjet.com/2009...). - Michael Deutch

michael: constructive suggestion - you should setup a mindmap group here on ff so these suggestions can be feed in separately and others can participate, they're just going to get lost inside this thread... - mike "glemak" dunn

Wow what a great discussion. I have never heard of Prezi before and I will have a very imortant presentation to one of MNO next week. I prepared with PP, but now consider to do from scratch via Prezi.com. Thanks guys! - Jacque

Robert, do you have anything that you can share that you've used Mind manager for? Do you actually use it in presentations or do you use it as a thought organizing tool? Thanks for answering if you have the time! - Gregg Morris

i was blown away by a preso done in prezi.com. tried it out, the UI takes some getting used to, but w/ patience the zoom in/out approach yields great presos. worth checking out some of the demos. I saw a preso done w/ it that all took place inside the dot of a question mark (that was the reveal at end of preso). cool. - Adrian Chan

re. TiddlyWiki: should I mention, that there's also a true presentation version?... http://ow.ly/8vMH - schilke

Or you could emulate Carrot Top and use props from a great big trunk. Problem is you need to be a) really pumped up and b) certifiably nuts. - bob corrigan

Schilke - thanks for the link to tiddlywiki presentation version. I've bookmarked that and visited the example. With tiddlywiki each 'tiddler' has a specifically adressable URL so that pages can be individually linked from mindmapping software. That way a complete subtopic can be created as a 'deck' but not invoked in the presentation unless we choose to go there. Back to the 'horrible'... more... - Alistair Nicholson

A cool MindMapping alternative is XMind. - Martin Seibert

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This afternoon I'm speaking to CIOs from many of the world's biggest companies about the 2010 Web. I'll put this post on screen, tell them what web things they should be considering:

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I have a slew of things I'm going to show them and talk to them about from discovery services, to video services, to collaboration tools/services, to enterprise 2.0 suites. What is important for a CIO to know about? - Robert Scoble

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To the CIOs in the audience: Your company is not Friendfeed. - Jeff Stannard

make money in a 2.0 way - Lorenzo Strambi

@scobleizer: Privacy, discoverability, compliance - how do those initiatives impact what CIO's should be thinking about when considering adoption of web services. - Nick Wade

definitely the growth of the Real Time web & it's challenge to traditional search engines - sofarsoShawn

Location will become ever more important as mobile devices become geo-aware. - Stu Rich

If applicable to their business, making data available to the public can be a huge plus. This way, interested developers can create things that will have huge benefit without them having to pay large amounts of money to hire someone. It also makes them seem more open. - Brandon Titus

Usability. All these social media tools are great, but they still don't work together very smoothly. Just trying to explain to employees how to follow conversations on Twitter by flitting back and forth between users gives them nosebleed. - Kawika Holbrook

Tell them they should sign-up on Friendfeed and Twitter and they'll get all the information they need - meckimac

Tell them that somewhere out there, at least one of their competitors is going to try and beat them by leveraging enterprise social computing concepts to pull their suppliers and partners into what used to be closed product innovation, customer satisfaction and marketing processes. What are they doing about it? - Sameer

Twitter and Friendfeed are fantastic for conversations, but if you aren't following active users, then it never happens. - Nathan Finley

Tell them to use Facebook, Twitter and YouTube API's instead of creating more sites to login to. - matthew bennett

If they are watching this FF thread, they are seeing a good example of 2010 - Mike Nencetti

Insanely speedy response to world and company events will require a robust team of strategic thinkers monitoring a wide range of media. Knowing when to respond and when NOT to respond to company info, competitor info, industry info as enterprises go bankrupt, go public, go off the tracks, will require CIO, CMO, COO and Company Spokesperson Swat Team Excellence. - Halley Suitt

@scobleizer: oh, and for god's sake tell them that SaaS isn't snake oil. It's just another tool in the shed. Another weapon in the armoury. Deploy it at the right time in the right circumstances and it should work well. SaaS-ify everything just because it's buzz, and things won't go well. - Nick Wade

Data portability: let me both import to and export data from their service. - Will King

tell them or ask them? Ask them what challenges they are facing. - Dan (Dima) Itkis

Web 2010 should be interpolable and intelligent enough to coordinate itself effectively. - ashish

Moving from superficial social/entertainment network to action-based networking (helping with business growth, personal goals, political, spiritual, etc) that effects the real world. - Leif Hansen

Watch friendfeed closely - we may not have the answers, but we're asking all of the right questions. - Iain Baker

Facebook is like Ebay: closed services that casual users will grow tired with over time. - Jeff Stannard

Usability, mobility, privacy and interoperability. Avoiding fragmentation of the informations that came from all the social sites - Lorenzo Strambi

Watching the '4th wall' come down (online/offline, virtual/real) via nowsourcing, mobile tech, location-awareness, etc. - Leif Hansen

First off I would ask them if they know what the web is and how they currently use it. It's a fair bet many won't have a clue beyond email and a bit of porn. - Gilbert Harding

Nathan: Twitter and FriendFeed are great for conversations, but if they don't engage with users, it'll never happen. - Steve Lynch from twhirl

Social media burnout -too many accounts and 'spaces' online will force people to ask hard questions about how dependent they really want to be on technology, where their boundaries lie, how to filter noise, and which 'tribes' offer the most payback to their particular context. - Leif Hansen

For us, there seems to be a big gap between possibilities and actualities for both internal and external audiences - mostly due to disagreements over usage and guidelines. It is frustrating for those of us who want to embrace Web communication tools but cannot seem to progress into implementation! If anything ... embrace what's available and work to make it easily accessible and usable for employees and corporate initiatives. - Ingrid Williams

Transparency - Gambit Fauri

And of course, count on people under 25 knowing more about their business than they do. CIO's should have a Board of Advisors (a dozen) all under 25. - Halley Suitt

Tell them 2010 web is their chance to go from the Cathedral in customer service to the Bazaar. A month ago two separate Comcast "chat" service reps told me my problem needed a tech to come out to the site; a brief Twitter conversation with @comcastcares got the problem solved in five minutes. The Twitter reps were just plain better, friendlier and more proactive. The biggest benefit of 2010 web is NOT this app or that site, it's the change in mindset among the service reps. - Maxwell Kennerly

Enterprise 2.0 (not just business, but NPs, schools, etc.). Organizations will finally realize how powerful social tools can be when they focus on empowering their unique tribe. - Leif Hansen

One of the most important things that is overlooked is that they need to leverage IT assets to preserve institutional memory - RAPatton

We are all turning to micro- Microblogs,Micropayments,Microapps, Micro attention and web is turning out to be one single thing consisting of all these ever growing microthings. - ashish

The next big thing: http://www.building43.com - sofarsoShawn

Any specific companies or services that I definitely should show them? - Robert Scoble

A great topic of conversation (though perhaps not the audience) would be the difficulties enterprises encounter when adopting and adapting to web 2.0 tools internally, and their concern with open web content as it pertains to intellectual property and customer confidentiality. - jcunwired

Jcunwired, agree, that's definitely a massive issue/concern along with user privacy - sofarsoShawn

I agree with jcunwired, do these big companies understand what it means not to be half pregnant when it comes to the open web? Some have built their biz models on not being open, how are they to interact with this new world? Can these companies risk losing some control? - Daniel Kenney

CIOs should note the numerous times small upstarts have taken over from big incumbents on the web. If they want to make successful cutting-edge web projects happen, they need to maintain a small-company mentality in those projects. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

I agree with Bruce - Gambit Fauri

@scobleizer: maybe show them 37signals, Yammer and Cubetree. If they are multi-national CIO's, they'll be interested in collaboration toolsets. - Nick Wade

@Steve Lynch it's true that if I don't engage, things don't happen. But I have to follow, before I can engage! - Nathan Finley

@scobleizer CIOs need to know that these tools can be used to create better rapport with existing customers, attract new customers by creating transparent/honest communication about their company, improve internal processes and reduce costs through community-driven knowledge sharing, and apply the technologies in small ways that are best for them given their compliance and internal governance requirements. Fear of not moving forward is not a valid reason for not doing something. - Altan Khendup

ask them to involve more China and Indonesia.. for we both are absolutely not in crisis! eg. we need more servers and bandwidth.. - Pico Seno

Identity portability: customers will widely expect to engage online with your company via their existing profile accounts - FB Connect, OpenID, Google - take your pick. CIOs will need to drive the reconciliation of their closed registration systems with what these open systems provide. - Sean O'Brien

We've started talking to some of our bigger customers about what is life like after Microsoft Office. Old way: Making word docs, spreadsheets and powerpoints and then emailing them. New way: Still being developed. Opportunity: Companies that get collaboration right will have huge competitive advantages. Products: CubeTree but of course I'm biased. ;) - Carlin

@Carlin - hey hey Carlin, you're welcome ;) Hope you're doing well. - Nick Wade

+1 Sean. I don't want to have to create a profile on every site I visit. - Steve Lynch from twhirl

I don't want to create a profile on every site either, but I also don't want any one site to be the master profile and "know" everything about every site I go to either. Duplication of silo'd profiles is an aid to a sort of privacy. - Keith Fulton

@scobleizer Awesome mindmap. Why does youtube not make the map under video? - Kevin Murray

Robert Scoble

Seth Godin is the top social media blogger? Give me a break. He doesn't participate. Chris Brogan wins in my view. - http://www.noop.nl/2009...

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I think that Seth is the top marketer blogger. - Apostolos Papadopoulos from IM

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although as you said he doesn't participate. - Apostolos Papadopoulos from IM

i think its based on a number of stats Scoble, rather than participation. But of course, i'm just pleased we're in the top 20 of the list :) - Zee.

Zee: stats are lies. - Robert Scoble

well they make me feel good :) - Zee.

Zee: Seth Godin is a great guy, great author, great speaker, very well known, etc. But no way is he the top social media blogger. - Robert Scoble

Agreed. Like Godin's insight but he isnt regular enough. Also really like Jeremiah! - Richard Zeidel

I subscribe to Seth's blog and have yet to figure out why there is such a fuss about him. Chris seems to put more effort into his posts and write things of significance. - Chris Luckhardt

lol but what do u mean with the stats zee? - Apostolos Papadopoulos from IM

Often attributed to Mark Twain: "There are lies, damn lies and statistics." - CAJ, somewhere else

have you subscribed to us yet Scoble? Would love you to give us a chance for a couple of weeks. Think you'll be highly impressed - Zee.

Seth is good for those little sparks that get your own thinking going. But yeah, wouldn't put him in the top SM blogger category. - Virante

Richard: yeah, Jeremiah should be in top two or three yet. Zee: I'm following you here on friendfeed, is that what you mean? - Robert Scoble

sorry i mean at TheNextWeb.com - check out our recent content, i'm sure you'll be impressed. - Zee.

Zee: what's the friendfeed URL? - Robert Scoble

If you turn off comments (engagement) and blog about engagement (with comments off) then you get lots of linketylinks (Google love) in. Helps with those stats :) - Laurel Papworth

@virante agree with you. I think Seth is more intellectual from Brogan and he is not social media blogger. And I don't say that Brogan isn't great! In fact, he is! - Apostolos Papadopoulos from IM

Love your post. I stopped following Seth a while ago for the same reason. He does not participate in the conversation. He writes posts high above from the mountain of Social Media Gods (SMG). - John Flynn

http://friendfeed.com/thenext... and we have a group with content from all over here: http://friendfeed.com/the-nex... (nearly 6000 members) - Zee.

The # of people he follows and learns from is an indicator as to his view of his role in the conversation...I mean monologue, - Kevin Murray

In fact, thinking about it, it is hard to pick between Brogan and Owyang. I should have named both. - Robert Scoble

Agreed. Great stuff, but Seth's not interested in conversation. Since that's the case, how can he possibly rate high in the social media space? - Leo Bottary

I like the perspective Seth brings to Social Media, but I agree that he's not participating as much as others. How are we defining "top"? - Joel Zehring

I think the behaviors of many people claiming to be the "best" of something will be monitored more closely now that FF is around ... I watch the number of people "these bloggers" subscribe to and watch for their participation ... - LPH™ and his dog P™

methinks that Seth is not blogging about Social Media, but about marketing. - Apostolos Papadopoulos from IM

That list doesn't seem particularly focused. Bunch of great sites there that don't seem SM to me. I can't believe they didn't run them past me first. ;-) - Chris Baskind

Joel: the blog that made this list is using popularity ranking algorithms. Judging people by popularity will take you down a bad path. - Robert Scoble

Seth is like God. He disappears for a long time then pops up with the old miracle. He's a good helicopter view of what's going on whilst people like Scobles and Chris Brogran are the day to day practioneers. You need both. - Ross McMinn

Definitely Brogan is much better. I think Godin is miscategorized here. That said he's not conversing much in any space, just thinking out loud, which is great, but not so much social. - Bailey McCann

I think we need universal portable influence metric - something peer mediated - micro celebrities need community validation. - Richard Zeidel

Zee would be in the conversation. At least if I were having the conversation. - Matthew DeVries

I don't even know Chris Brogan - maybe I should.. - Arnaldo M Pereira

I like it that Seth doesn't participate in everything. It makes it easier to follow him. Has anyone tried to email him or connect through his "Tribes" projects? - Joel Zehring

what apostolos said. seth is marketing, not social media. - James

Joel, that's like saying Chuck Nevitt is the best basketball player, because he's so easy to follow, cause most of the time he's on the bench, and the 3 minutes a season he got to play, he moved very slowly. - Matthew DeVries

Arnaldo M Pereira: Check out Chris here ==> http://friendfeed.com/chrisbr... He's very active. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Exactly, Social Media and Seth Godin? WTF? And how come RWW team is not in the 1st three? - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)

lol +1 to Matthew - Bailey McCann

I'd say Amber Mac would be up there, but I guess she's more like the little girl who gets every freakin new toy on the planet the day it comes out, tells everyone it's a great toy, then tosses it aside, and goes back to playing with movable type. - Matthew DeVries

Good guy, but last I checked Seth doesn't even tweet! - Ryan Miller from Nambu

Ryan: we were on a radio show together and he told me he doesn't Tweet. I tried to get him on friendfeed and he didn't have any part of that. - Robert Scoble

Seth is tops in several areas....just not social media; not even close..I'm sure he would agree - Daniel Kenney

agreed scoble. - Ted Bradford II

Seth is definitely a top blogger..but because social media is about conversation, then you're right...others have a right to that honor. - Bill Reichart

Seth is a snake oil salesman, but Chris Brogan sees him as a role model. I've predicted that Chris will be the first to Tweet from the Lincoln bedroom in the White House. - paul mooney

Maybe they should call him the top social media spammer. He's broadcast-only. Woot for Chris Brogan though. - Dave Saunders

+1 with taryn930 - Apostolos Papadopoulos from IM

Seth Godin uses email primarily to respond to people - he doesnt believe in the other media and he has explained that in some of his interviews. Chris Brogan on the other hand uses social media channels extensively and in my opinion should rank higher as a social media exponent. - Mahesh Patwardhan

blogger or not.. moot question... is seth a good "social network" or "web2.0" (as much as i dislike that term!!!) media personality... *no* he's hardly a participant - he's more a "dictactor" - one way communication (mostly)... still worth reading i guess if you're into that sort of marketing guffy stuff (i'm only into technical stuff :) ... - simran

I like Chris Brogan and Perry Belcher too! - Vicki Z Lauter

I agree that Seth, smart as he is, is not representative of social media blogging. Having said that, what makes us so sure Chris Brogan, and I love Chris, Or Jeremiah, who I also love, are more engaged than Susie from Detroit? Because their numbers are higher hence the stats ranking. Why are their numbers higher? Because they're sort of viral. I often wonder how people become popular.... more... - Sheryl

Chris Brogan I know about and I follow on Twitter and FF, I just Googled Seth Godin, wasn't sure who he was.... - Mike Nencetti

I don't feel like I should weigh in or anything, but I wanted you to know I'm listening and I'm here. I really love what Seth does. I read him religiously. He's NOT a social media blogger. He writes about marketing. That said, he writes about the part of social media that matters to me: how humans can be more human. So, to me, he's still #1, because he's writing about humans, and that's... more... - Chris Brogan

see what I was tolding ya? 1) Seth is not a social media blogger 2) both Chris and Seth are the best on what they do ;-) - Apostolos Papadopoulos from IM

For the record, Wolverine is the best at what he does. I'm just a working schlub. - Chris Brogan

I like and respect what both Chris and Seth have to say tremendously. Not sure I care that much about who is the "top" blogger or whatever because either way I'm gonna keep reading their stuff and learning. - Miguel Rodriguez

I do appreciate that Chris is present here (hi Chris!) and feel that his participation in "the discussion" adds another dimension to his insights. I wonder sometimes why Seth limits his interaction. When he's on camera being interviewed, such as by @loic most recently, he seems quite comfortable.. why that comfort doesn't extend to places like FF and twitter I am still scratching my head over. - Miguel Rodriguez

Seth reminds me of Yoda, Chris reminds me of Obiwan. First one's cool, simple, philosophical, and ass-kicking. Second one's down to earth, practical, trained in highly useful Jedi stabs for day to day fights. Follow both, learn from both. - waraney rawung

How would you classify Gary Vaynerchuck in the Marketing/Social Media environments? - Owen Greaves

I watched a video of Seth essentially saying that much of social networking is superficial. http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2009... - Angela

waraney - I think you nailed it :-) - PXLated

I had an interesting connection w/ Seth. Back when I was doing Biznik Live interviews, Seth's answer was to ask about our listener numbers. ("10k gets my attention"...Understandable from a guy who is #5 in Google out of 3 billion hits for "blog") However, when I sent him a video of Bizniks discussing Tribes, he liked that & agreed to an interview. It was an experimental brady-bunch style video interview on the importance of Tribes in business. Edited version: http://tinyurl.com/r9f9qz - Leif Hansen

@ChrisBrogan I bet being compared to ObiWan just made your day ;) I think I'm probably more like Luke -whiny guy with father-figure issues who gradually grows into his vocation through the grace/luck of the force and of friends and some serious hard knocks with his own dark side. Though I've got plenty of Solo juice flowing through my veins as well :) - Leif Hansen

I agree with Chris, but Chris and Jeremiah are still up there IMO, especially when it comes to Social Media specifically. - Jesse Stay

Apart from the fact Chris Brogan is hardly even here lol - Rob Sellen :o)

Is Gary V. on that list? - Jesse Stay

That's my point...shouldn't he be on the list? - Owen Greaves

But seriously, oranges are so much better than apples. Come on guys... - Leif Hansen

We know Scoble doesn't like lists. He really doesn't like those where it's easy to find holes in the lists. If this were written as "200 Social Media Blogs" with stats, and without rankings, it'd be easier. I was just surprised to see I was included at all. - Louis Gray

But Louis, You are a legend here :) - Owen Greaves

Great point about Godin not participating. In my niche there are some "experts" who have huge following numbers, but follow very few themselves. If you don't interact with your followers are you really participating in the conversation? - Richard Byrne

Godin doesn't need to participate... he has sneezers. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

@Rob Sellen - Yeah, I'm not really deep into FriendFeed. I use it, and try to stay on top, and I get that lots of people say it's a big next stage. This is where Seth and I agree and are somewhat alike: we both believe you don't have to be present at EVERY conversation at every touchpoint. He picks his places; I pick mine. I just find the velocity of the social web to be more my speed. He likes email. No foul. - Chris Brogan

Nothing wrong with that... ;o) .. just thought it odd for someone to say somone is the top social media blogger and not be in the social media sites itself... after all, that's exactly what scoble has said in the title here ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

concur - chris brogan is the man - mike "glemak" dunn

Why Mike, do you think that? what is it that Chris does that's so different to anyone else? - Rob Sellen :o)

Not a chance. And Seth doesn't make it as top marketing blogger either. - AJ Kohn

@Rob - oh, I'm in tons of social media sites. I just don't spend all 14 of my working hours in each one. I don't use Utterli, Plurk, Jaiku, Hyves, Orkut, Digg, Sphinn, and 300 other folks either. - Chris Brogan

like scoble you mean? or was that 7 hours lol? I never said you weren't in any, just that scoble posted that here... and you are not here as much, nor is seth.. so scoble to me was just replacing one for another, if that makes any sense? :o/ - Rob Sellen :o)

Woot woot "Seth Godin is the top social media blogger?" - nawwwwww.. he's the world's biggest liar.. hey after all he did write "all marketers are liars" !! He connectes with people because of his views and he also disconnects to people b'coz of that too.. As for interaction and collobrative particiaption.. hes got his nose still stuck n da air.. yeah Chris wins hands down ! - Peter Dawson

One thing I will say about Seth, ha can say a lot in few words... other times he says things that are a bit broad... but if it makes you think, that is the point. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

So Scoble chose FriendFeed. I've chosen Twitter. He also really loved the hell out of Facebook and used it up. I didn't. Which tools you use doesn't make you a better or worse social media person. How you get the job done counts the most to me. - Chris Brogan

I agree... just thought it odd in the context of friendfeed you know. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Agree Chris. Darth Maul's double-edged sabre is as useful as Yoda's tiny one. I'm a beginner at social media, and trying to keep in touch with what's new and what's useful. You, Scoble, Seth and many others have been very helpful for a rookie like me. - waraney rawung

What is a social media blogger, and why don't I get on this list? I've been doing this longer and better than any of you guys. Geez Louise what's a guy gotta do to get a little recognition. - Dave Winer

Which reminds me, a lot of early adopters in Indonesia are using FriendFeed, but they're not really into discussions in FF. On the contrary, geeks in Indonesia love and are very active in Twitter and Plurk (sometimes behaving differently in each site), with Facebook as their personal online central nerve. - waraney rawung

It's all subjective anyway. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

@DaveWiner - here here. You're who *I* read, anyhow. : ) - Chris Brogan

shouldn't that be "hear hear" sorry... lol. that's coming from a deaf bloke! ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

@Rob - Beats me... what do I know? : ) - Chris Brogan

I wouldn't even call Seth a top marketing blogger, jeez - Sally Church

lol... I see that alot, and wonder if it should really be hear hear... makes more sense that would. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I think it probably is. Like "hear hear" me? - Chris Brogan

yeah, what I was thinking...even if I can't "hear hear"" lol... . ah well. we learn sommat new everyday... - Rob Sellen :o)

Gotta run, Rob. Thanks for the chat hidden in Robert's rant. : ) - Chris Brogan

lol.. welcome mate.... hang on.. does Robert NOT rant? ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

The 'what tools you use' debate is interesting. While I agree that, as long as you get the job done, the tools don't matter, there's also the ability to understand new paradigms. It's difficult to talk about and grok something without really immersing yourself in it. I didn't get blogging until I really did it. Ditto Twitter. Certainly FriendFeed. They *are* different ... meaningful... more... - AJ Kohn

I really like the comment on social media being about connection vs. the technology that allows it to take place. That is one reason I enjoy friendfeed so much more than twitter & even facebook. Much easier to connect and join conversations with people. I find myself looking at stats of who I am listening to much less in here than twitter. The result, better conversations, more... more... - Kevin Murray

I think Seth is great at what he does, I'm just not sure "Social Media Blogger" is the right description. Perhaps evidence that that's not his focus is that a conversation of this magnitude can go on without his commenting/participating. For anyone interested, here's a post from my blog about something recent I have disagreed with Godin about: http://tinyurl.com/po62js - Brian Broveleit

Chris Brogan rocks! - Morten Blaabjerg

thats ok Morten..as long as it's not while sat in the corner on his own ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

lol - what's so impressive about @chrisbrogan is that he responds - or at least gives the impression that he does. He works like a maniac. And he _gets_ what _it_ is. This makes his posts small gems of insights, even the less revolutionary ones. - Morten Blaabjerg

lol "gives the impression that he does" - what does that even mean morten? - mike "glemak" dunn

Agreed that Chis walks the talk and puts out great stuff. - John Blossom

Seth Godin is practical and sees through the hype - something that most social media commentators are guilty of. - BLOGBloke

Social Networking/Media Sites Staying Relevant: (humor) http://www.youtube.com/watch...& - Kevin Murray

Seth may be an expert in his own realm. Social media is certainly not it, but I have heard Seth make some valuable points about how to not use social media. Obviously Chris is doing something right, as evidenced by showing up to speak him mind, and pay Seth some respect. You gotta respect guys like Chris, Robert, Dave, and Louis (who are the ones on the tip of my tongue right now) -... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Ditto Robert! What is it with the "online marketing copywriters" all wanting to act like they're the top social media bloggers now? Oh... that's right... social media is the hip thing! Thus they flock to it. I respect Seth for particular forms of copy writing, but lots of better social media bloggers... like Chris Brogan, like Leslie Poston, like you, and others. - Arleen Anderson

I agree Robert. (And thank you, Arleen *blushes*) Mahalo - Leslie Poston

Amen x heaps! Seth is a genius... but certainly doesn't spring to mind in the context of "top" in social media. Chris is for sure in my top 5!! - Mari Smith

Chris Brogan is the best example of what bloggers should try to achieve, IMO. Like any great writer, his stuff is worth reading even if you are not close tot he subject of a particular post. That means a lot. - randulo

Agreed. Seth stuff is good, but he does he even get social media? - Warren Whitlock

@glemak There are limits to one's attention span when you've got a lot around your ears (like Chris has) but it means a lot that you give the impression that you're listening and responding, even though you may not always be on your high marks. Noone can be. It's only human. But appearances still matter and are greatly appreciated. Chris is good at that too. - Morten Blaabjerg

gotcha - level of attention - mike "glemak" dunn

Thanks to those who mentioned me. Scoble is for sure one I looked up to and still do. - Jeremiah Owyang

Jeremiah isnt the best at what he does - he's just the only one who does it! ;) - let's not be exclusionary - thank you to all the top minds for sharing. - Richard Zeidel

I think Chris Brogan is THE man. Many of the social media experts are now engaging only with those who are also 'experts' and not with the new comers or followers. Brogan, on the other hand, very rarely to missed a conversation. As for marketing bloggers, I still stand behind Kyle Lacy as the best one. - Gambit Fauri

Seth "gets" social media tools but he is not the top participant--where Chris is. I am dubious, however, of claims that Seth is not a conversationalist. Have you ever sent him an email? He personally takes time to respond to every email thoughtfully and quickly, which is more than I can say for a number of social media stars (or even myself). - Jeremy Floyd

Lately I have been reading more of Chris has to say, that said does it really matter who is the top? - Chet Woodside

SCOBLEIZER - Do you grant variance from the "No deleting your comments and altering the thread mother fuckers" rule if you're doing it simply to kill a thread from your "My Discussions" filter so it stops popping like popcorn on your notifier? - Matthew DeVries

Matthew: that is an interesting problem. I wish clicking "hide" were good enough for that. - Robert Scoble

As do I. - Matthew DeVries

Godin doesn't allow 2-way participation, thus negating the openness principle of social media (no replies on his blog, not on twitter). He's just repurposed the blog to act as a writing platform for material for his books. He's very tactic based and without a huge depth of substance, but that's what people like; though it's not necessarily good for them. - Aaron Shields

as a technologist, focused on emerging media yet appreciating the fine art of marketing - i learn little from seth (noise) and tons from chris (signal) - that's my experience of course, your mileage may vary ;) - mike "glemak" dunn

Our flying Dutchman makes the Reich Museum look like a tourist trap. Should be on the top 5 things to do when you are in Amsterdam. Very bright, clear thinker. If you ever get fired for being "too open with your ideas" Chris you can work for me! - Chad Harris

Agreed, Brogan all the way. - Jim Gaudet

Brogan is amazing - Peter Efland

Chris Brogan is an active interlocutor in ways Godin isn't. Still, who is #1 isn't as important as who is providing content that you need. I respect Godin. Have read lot of his books. But still, Brogan is my fav. - Prof. Pamela Hood

Seth is a pure-play Social Media thought leader. Chris participates in the SM stream so he gets my respect for walking the walk and talking the talk. - Michael McDermott

I'll give props to Chris Brogan in this so-called "social media" space, insightful, valuable, interesting. And I will give a lifetime achievement award to Dave Winer, I was reading Scripting News BEFORE the word "blog" was coined by EvHead and MegNut. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Winer "teach" you how to blog Scoble? One thing that continues to exist that I wish would go away, but probably never will is this whole "leaderboard" mentality... is there some contest? <sigh> - .LAG liked that

I agree with Scoble, Chris is here in the trenches and impressively dedicated. - anthonycospito

Methinks Brogan is sending his cousins over here. :-) - BLOGBloke

In my view the better a Blogger is the more comments they will receive. Seth Godin does not even have comments enabled on his blog. - Garin Kilpatrick

Shows how "social" he is at the very least. I don't completely agree that a blogger needs to receive comments to be "better" - but you can't really be a "social" media blogger without being "social". - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Robert Scoble

Mogulus Rebrands With A Killer Domain: Livestream.com [feedly] http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...

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Wow, livestream is a very cool and clear name. I also like how simple the landing page is, and hadn't seen how they integrate twitter. - Leif Hansen

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I hardly tell anyone that in 1996 I registered Infostream.com as our startup's killer domain name. Problem .. no business plan. - Gary Etie

My suggested business plan ... set up servers/storage, let world upload video, let world watch. Problem? No idea howto monetize. - Gary Etie

Ew, that url shortener has ads at the bottom...no thanks :/ - Bwana ☠

And the short URL is persistent in the location bar. Double Ew. - Gary Etie

Robert Scoble

What is Twitter Tees - Twitter Tees by Threadless - Tweets on Tees. Awesome! (and it's hosted on Rackspace, even better!) - http://twitter.threadless.com/about...

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140 is the new 420 ha! - Andrew Trinh

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So, we get to wear what we tweet? - Kevin J Hatton

Ordered! - AJ Batac

Can people suggest t shirt tagline? I think we're gonna see a lot of interesting ideas.. - Orli Yakuel

I'm so embarrassed to admit that I bought a twitter t-shirt a while back that had "Follow Me" on the back with http://www.twitter.com/leifhan... on the front. After wearing it to Mindcamp in Seattle last year, I felt like such a dork. And there is a big difference between a geek and a dork ;) "Follow Me" is just a bit too egocentric, even for me ;) - Leif Hansen

I designed my own twitter shirt: http://www.flickr.com/photos... but I can always use another one :) - Orli Yakuel

"A big difference between a geek and a dork" I love that. Geeks have their own coolness....dorks are just tools - Daniel Kenney

@sovereignjohn Exactly, something a little less mecentric :) Although, I guess "follow me" is probably the most honest reason for announcing your twitter address :) - Leif Hansen

This gives me a new reason to actually start using the 'favorites' feature of Twitter... - Leif Hansen

@sparkguy didn't get your idea of using 'favorites' feature of Twitter, what is the new reason? - Olga Rasulova

@Olga Because when I see something 't-shirt worthy', I might 'favorite' it :) - Leif Hansen

You can find the famous Fail Whale t-shirt here http://tinyurl.com/5t6hpa - Mamel Redondo

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