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I have to keep reminding myself why I married him :P
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Don't lie, it's for my hot sexy man-body :P
- Johnny
^___^
- Neya
:D
- Johnny
Hahahaha
- Mo Kargas
The photo's funny but your comment sent me to the floor laughing.
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
this post is total win.
- Vicarbott
It's cuz he looks hawt in your underwear. :D
- Steven Perez
This is awesome. Johnny, why do you look so surprised?
- Derrick
Damn You Steven Perez! I've almost forgotten that! :))))
- directeur
Why?
- orionstarr
Nom
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Cute Napkin
- Brent - Yes I am
It's the beard, right, Rachael? :D
- Steven Perez
It's all of the above :)
- WoH: Minding her Steves
WIN
- Josh Haley
Whoa! A beardless Johnny? I must not have been around long enough!
- caj needs a haircut
Oppsie, I ripped a tear in the space-time continuum!
- Josh Haley
I feel like someone is watching me
Rob H., Mo Kargas, Steve Sebestyen and 3 other people liked this
Murdoch’s Love of Newspapers Has Become Drag on His Company - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
Steve Sebestyen liked this
Man hands out cash in New York | BBC - Newsbeat - http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbea...
Jemm, Tyson Key, Mike Nayyar and 5 other people liked this
"Imagine getting £35 for doing absolutely nothing. Well in New York, a man is giving away stacks of cash to anyone who's prepared to stand in line for it. The mystery man, who calls himself 'Bailout Bill', says in the middle of an economic crisis ordinary Americans who are struggling to make ends meet deserve a bailout."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
What are his coordinates? I need lunch money.
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
That's gonna be some lunch. The lowest amount he hands out after hearing your sob story is $50.
- Steven Perez
Then Mortons it is!!
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
I could tell him about my unemployment...
- Mike Nayyar
That's what he wants to hear. He's handing out amounts ranging from $50 to $5,000.
- Steven Perez
Achievement Unlocked - http://nerviosismo.tumblr.com/post...
Steve Sebestyen, Karim, Joshua Hatfield and 10 other people liked this
Badass.
- Phil Glockner
autolike
- tehKenny
It’s Over: I’m Through With Web 2.0 - http://www.webomatica.com/wordpre...
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Great post Steve. As painful as it is for many geeks, the time has come for everyone to swallow a dose of reality.
- Steve Sebestyen
The time came a long time ago. Some people are simply now having it shoved down their throats. Any smart businessperson saw it coming the first time around, and anyone who was there the first time around should have seen it coming this time too.
- Andrew Badera
I was reading about the collapse of "2.0" (nasty term) last year. The thing that really concerns me isn't with the fall of another round of sites, but with the way that governments are eyeballing the net after the bluster of 2.0 has brought our little freedom of expression squarely before their attention. It's no conincidence that a number of high profile blog posts have lead to big meatspace shareprice batterings.. Keep an eye on Europe and the US pressing forward with a limited "push content" net plan.
- alphaxion
I respect your stance not to dance on the graves of companies which will fail over the coming months. However, I am not sure that all Web 2.0 applications are done for. Just as these was no place in a post 2000 world for Pets.com there are many silly applications which will disappear, but others with real benefits to users will continue, and if well managed will ultimately drive a revenue stream
- Lorraine Ball
I agree Lorraine, this is a post a liked -- this is what I wrote on the subject. http://howtosplitanatom.com/the-new...
- Steve Spalding
I swear! It's amazing the lack of priorities people have in a crisis... Who CARES who's fault this is... we need to figure out how to fix the problem! Would you people sit around and argue about how the fire started when you're in a burning house or would you get outside and grab a hose??
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It matters to them because we're only weeks away from an election - every single House member wants to be re-elected. THAT's why they're all acting like this.
- iTad
Lindsay, I made the same comment on a post just a few minutes ago and I agree. To me, today's mess is the perfect example of why we (as citizens) need to make major changes in the people we've chosen up to this point. Time to clean house.
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
Just another day in politics. Don't have to actually get anything done, just need to LOOK like you're doing something.
- ronin
Screw the election... we have longer term and more immediate problems to deal with.
- Lindsay
@Steve A-freaking-men!
- Lindsay
In this case it matters. Why on Earth would intelligent people want more of what caused the problem in the first place? The government needs to stay the Hell out of this and let the market correct itself. The storm analogy is flawed because no one can cause a hurricane. As far as the burning house analogy; do you just build another house while the pyromaniac stands there and watches with anticipation?
- Mattb4rd
+ a gazzilion for this Lindsay!!!! Well said indeed...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
i don't know if you've noticed over the past 20 or so years, but whenever there's a problem, the GOP is the first to point fingers at Democrats and minorities, yet never offer suggestions. I refuse to listen to children whine, so just ignore those types of people here and have intelligent conversations with people who can hold one.
- Anika
This is why Washington is broken. Crap like this.
- Rah-PM 2012
@Mattb4rd - I'm of the opinion that we should scrap it all and start over... and in that case the history doesn't matter who started it... They're ALL to blame but it doesn't change anything going forward if we do as Steve suggests and clean house. But that also doesn't mean we can do nothing... The market is not set up to correct itself.
- Lindsay
First rule of handling a gov crisis find somebody to blame..
- Tony C (Unrated)
from fftogo
@Gregory; That school is tougher when you're stupid. (I'm not calling you stupid, just saying life is hard, it's harder when you're stupid)
- Mattb4rd
No one said it has to be a perfect fix. There's no such thing in a world that's constantly changing. But our focus should be on that fix instead of who caused the problem. Can't make progress looking backward. Not to say you shouldn't be aware of the past (don't want history to repeat itself) but you have to move on to get anywhere better.
- Lindsay
Lindsay, if I might tread on dangerous ground here, I do agree with you. Perhaps some are concerned as to "why" the fire was started in order that we do not make such mistakes again. If I have been informed correctly, the bail out package was simply a tourniquet to stop the massive blood loss, and allow us to operate on the issues under a little less stress. However, tendencies are to seek to blame. I have my feeling on some heads that should role, but this should not distract from us setting a course...
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Finger pointing at a time of crisis just shows you how lame our leadership truly is...fabulously f*cked!
- Susan Beebe
Sorry, I hate to spam, but... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
Sometimes we have to dig deep and find the root cause in order to solve a problem, but this is way past that
- Susan Beebe
I hate to stretch an analogy, but you throw water on some fires and you make them spread, e.g. magnesium. I am NOT comfortable that this bill is not inflaming the problem. First do no harm.
- Eric Lewis
@Ken - I wasn't a fan of the bailout plan. I am not an economic expert so I don't really know what the best course is, but I do think that we need to get a lot of very smart people in the room and possibly kick some of the politicians out of it and have them figure out the best solution for the short term AND the long term. The blame game is wasting precious time and energy. We can take care of punishing the people who got us into this mess later.
- Lindsay
Eric: And if it is your BEST FRIEND who is on fire? Do you do nothing and thus "do no harm" or do you act and throw water on the fire, even if it might get worse? Seriously.
- Ben Parr
Chris, thanks for the video. Very refreshing information and suspected by many. Ben, to further your analogy, stop-drop-and roll... It's the same thing as attempting to rescue a drowning person. You have to be a strong enough swimmer to save both yourself and them. Lindsay, I agree. I strongly feel that if you pull back the curtain, the Congress is listening to the voters (at least more than half). Just not the ones on TV I fear - so called leadership.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Ben: We gotta go to war now! NOW NOW!! WMD WMD!!! NOOW!! Sound familiar? The ONLY time I want government to act quickly is when the ENTIRE nation is in agreement. And sad to say, we just aren't on the approach to this problem. Until we are, slow is what we are gonna get.
- Berial
Ben Parr: So you would feel better about yourself, having killed your best friend faster and with more pain? To each his own, I guess. In this case, I don't see the panic. Margin calls are a bitch, but extending them is no answer.
- Eric Lewis
I don't think a bailout is going to fix the fundamental flaws in our economy. At best we can push off the real pain to our kids. But I think we have done enough to screw up their future already.
- Seth Gottlieb
from twhirl
Brian, thank you! That is what I'm saying too... Let's get some education on this... Not TOO much, but enough to help us through what is a very complex issue for the average American. I think America is very divided on issues at this point. Just look at poll numbers, just look at the $700B bail-out plan vote. Lindsay, what I fear we are allowing this issue do to all of us is spread the disaster scenario even further, we are allowing someone else to dictate the pace of our actions - which you know is flawed.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
It's posts like this that make me understand where panic originates. Those shouting FIRE are convinced of their righteousness.
- Eric Lewis
Eric, sorry if you think I'm being righteous, but if it's being righteous to suggest that we need to be more concerned about the future than the past then I am fine with being labeled that way. All I care about is finding the best solution for this problem and spending our time and research effort trying to figure out who's to blame does nothing. We should spend that same effort trying to understand the consequences of our next actions and pick the best option. Egos be damned.
- Lindsay
socialmedian: Breitbart.tv » Bloomberg Analyst: $700 Billion Bailout Could Balloon to $5 Trillion - http://www.socialmedian.com/story...
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“So now they try to solve the problem by having this credit bubble actually extended and I think the $700 billion will be like a drop in the bucket because the total credit market in the U.S. is something close to $60 trillion, then you have the CDS market – credit default swap – of around $62 trillion. Then you have the whole derivatives worldwide worth about a notional $1,300 trillion. So the $700 billion is really nothing and the Treasury is just giving out this figure when actually the end figure may be $5 trillion.” Read the full article
- Michael Fidler
from Bookmarklet
How Big Is The Bailout? - http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
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fascinating stuff
- Will DeLuca
from Bookmarklet
great graphic
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
Puts it into perspective... it may be irrelevent now.
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
So for those who claim that the Republican Party (with a little Democratic help) plunged us into crisis over a seven year period, this bill would allow both parties to achieve the same result in seven days.
- Ontario Emperor
I've been debating on a way to share good stuff like PDFs etc with the FF community, so I decided this morning to use a drop at Drop.io and feed it in. First contender is a PDF full of stick figures explaining the economic nose dive =)
Brad Brooks, Dave Martin, Roney Smith and 9 other people liked this
Comes up a bit wonky, no detail... Does Evernote do RSS feeds?
- Johnny
John, I setup Drop.io just because I'd used it before as a file recipient. If anyone has a better suggestion than I am all ears =D
- FFing Enigma
great idea Tina!
- Zee.
Glen... even better! OK, I'm going back to bed...
- Johnny
Just so you know, my wife just asked why I got out of bed and I said 'I needed to suggest something to a friend" She asked if it was a FriendFeed friend and I said yes. Her response... "You are so lame, FAIL"... God I love her so much :)
- Johnny
I'm checking out Scribd now, so we'll see if it's more intuitive. And John: you don't fail! WIN!
- FFing Enigma
If it's what I think it is, that document is fantastic and simple... I posted a Powerpoint version of it on Dropbox but nobody looked at it *sniffle*. Still, the dropbox interface is great for this sort of thing.
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
Steve, I'll take a look at Dropbox as well. I like the Scribd interface, but am having a bear of a time figuring out how to get a feed of just my documents... But yes, the document is very easily understood, though perhaps a touch crass at times. Not that there's anything wrong with that =)
- FFing Enigma
could I comment that I love the stick figure post?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Ken, it's hilarious isn't it? I've no idea where it came from, but I'd love to find out and give the author +123948719 internets.
- FFing Enigma
You can save PDFs to Delicious and other bookmarking sites too.
- Roney Smith
Roney, these are PDFs that are on my desktop; does Delicious now offer upload capability?
- FFing Enigma
Tina, you could use Evernote (if you set up a public notebook it does have an RSS feed you can subscribe to). The only problem might be that you're limited to 40mb of uploads a month with the free account. I don't know how much space your PDFs take but it's an option. :)
- Lindsay
Nuf Said… « Vincent Laforet’s Blog - http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008...
Victor Ryden 美久太阿, Franklin Pettit, Vinay | विनय and 11 other people liked this
Love it.
- Jeremy Kunz
from Bookmarklet
Awesome!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Why I’m Getting Tired of FriendFeed - http://www.newsgrange.com/2008...
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From NewsGrange: "Yesterday, people posted screenshots of their desktops – the day before – pictures of themselves – tomorrow, it’s going to be a picture of their feet. FriendFeed (or at least the part that I am subscribed to) is becoming a completely self-referential community that creates less and less value for me."
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Agree? Disagree? Let them know in the comments. (And no, this is not my site or opinion)
- Louis Gray
It's a little harsh, although I do accept that there has been a serious shift with FF. Where as it was once primarily a secondary discussion around posts, today it's a full blown social network in its own right. And I might add, it's a network I'm happy to be part of, and unlike facebook, it's one I'm happy to spend time in
- Duncan Riley
It's impossible to create aggregator that shows exactly the content you want. FF can be fine-tuned with lists and hides to filter, but it can't be perfect, either. I think all the meme's etc bring the community together and makes them more likely to add more useful content, too :)
- Jemm
Agree
- Stefano
They should subscribe to fewer people. My tech list doesn't participate in most of the memes and I don't click like on many of them either.
- Robert Scoble
So come on, who's going to start the "Photo of my feet" meme?
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
I think tagging / categorizing would bring more value as I want to add both fun and tech content. Tags would help filtering data for my followers from my end.
- Jemm
use the lists feature, which i find to be a great sorting tool on FF, and adjust your filtering strategy. personally, i don't mind the pictures of people, and their feet... it brings a little bit of humanity to what is an essentially unnatural activity...sitting in front of a computer, that is...
- .LAG liked that
I would have to disagree. Maybe its just the people but I honestly didn't see many post about the list at all. And also, sure there are many useless memes, but I see may great photos, news stories, personal stories, funny things, etc throughout the day. I don't know what Friendfeed your referring to, but its not the one I'm a part of.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
if you're only getting your feet wet with Friendfeed and playing around in the home feed, then yeah, I agree it's convoluted (although, personally that works for me). However, with just a little tuning of the rooms and lists, you can avoid most of that stuff, if you really wanted to. For me, I'm only peripherally interested in the tech news, it's everything else that goes on here that really strikes my fancy.
- Pete D
ببینید این ها هم از فرفر خسته شدن !
- Milad.p
Todays "Picture of me as a child meme" makes me think that he's right. Its really getting on my nerves.
- Roberto Bonini
Agree with Duncan. Also, conversations seem to start around threads begun in rooms like "Apps" or "Goodies". Where the context is set.
- Stu Andrews
The page is blank. :(
- Kevykev
ff key: separate signal from growing noise
- Igor Poltavskiy
I for one appreciate the non-tech posts, just as much as the tech posts. Friendfeed isn't just for discussing OAuth...
- Matt Frog
I agree, this isn't Techfeed or Oneparticularsubjectfeed, this is Friendfeed which means that pretty much anything and everything can be shared. That is why you can connect so many different services to Friendfeed and why you have rooms based on different topics. Yes, there are some instances of noise. But, I must say that even as I've subscribed to more and more people I'm not really encountering any noise. And the only things I find myself hiding are post in languages other then English.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
on the topic, i think duncan said it well early in the thread & louis what sort of site have you linked to, its a void except for this mindless "hating" ff now that its diverse post - that's not like you...
- mike "glemak" dunn
I see the point but it's simply a matter of subscribing to the people who interest you/who post articles/shares you are interested in. I don't get it. Doesn't this person know how to do this? Was FF created for tech news only? The name certainly doesn't suggest that. You can share what you like, if the reader doesn't like it then they can unsubscribe or create a friend list tailored to their needs.
- Kol Tregaskes
After joining FF, my activity on all other sites has not slightly decreased, but I am happy with FF cos' now I don't have to login to all those sites just to see what others have posted. I log into them only if I want to post something. Otherwise I carry on discussion only on FF. In simple words, I love FriendFeed!
- kunwar
Mike, I saw the site left a trackback on Robert's list. It does seem to be a bit of a hit and run.
- Louis Gray
Bah, whinging because of FF's increasing variety and diversity - it's still social media, so there will be social aspects. FF's slowly diverging from it's original tech bias, deal. Use the tools provided, block, unsubscribe, or use lists to remove what you don't like or simply be more discerning in subscriptions.
- Mo Kargas
Talk about linkbait... well, he got what he wanted.
- Sprague D
I don't find anything wrong with a random meme when you are still contributing to the tech community. If the early adopters would like a tech list to dabble in information create a room and hang out in it! I happen to like a bit of diversity on FF... it adds to the value for me. Isn't too much of a photo meme the same as me getting pissed off on the 30000 Google Chrome posts? Or the iPhone App posts that litter my home feed? You can get tired of stupid, funny postings. You can get tired of random noise and
- Kyle Lacy
chatter. The last thing you need to do is get tired of FriendFeed. If you are tired of personality and a community of diversity, go quarantine yourself in Strandz. :-) This is what social media is all about. Have a good day everyone!
- Kyle Lacy
Definitely Kyle, once again on the ball mate
- Mo Kargas
Louis, and all, I did stop by and thank the author for sharing his/her opinion. I have no worries with listening to the opinion and am not offended. Robert is fairly accurate in his assessment, as is Mathew (and many others). I have come for conversation on all manner of topics. I am interested in more than simply tech, and I hope that my likes and comments reflect that. I have begun to really enjoy the oddball humor and many interesting recommendations that come from everyone I subscribe to. Keep it up.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
This happens to every social site - as the community grows, it tends to trend towards the kind of stuff that a large community can agree on, which tends to be funny pictures and dumb memes more than thoughtful commentary. Bolstering the rooms feature for more topical discussion would help greatly with this; in the meantime I'd suggest just culling your friends list.
- Eric P
You can't tell people what to do or share. You can just filter the people you find interesting, and make good use of the rooms and lists features.
- Alejandro
I like friendfeed as it has become. its a community of different people and different ideas. to qoute public enemy "bring the noise!" :)
- (jeff)isageek
USEFUL CONTENT MEME! LOLzorz.
- tehKenny
This is what turned me off FriendFeed for awhile, and after trying to come back the same thing. I'm not going to call out any names but I got tired of seeing FUNNY PICS and just silly things that isn't new, just midly interesting, and most of it I had seen before on sites like Reddit, Digg, etc. .. My goal of FriendFeed was to be able to connect to people of like-mindedness on things I am interested in. Perhaps it's the people I'm subscribed to but even searches for things I'm interested in don't turn...
- Bartek Ciszkowski
(Continued comment) .. up very intriguing results. I've participated in one or two memes because I was bored but the FriendFeed problem is the same as any social-based network: You have your star players, they get all the attention, they post most of the links, and it becomes centered around them. It's too much effort to block/unsubscribe and filter it all out so now I'm stuck thinking how I can make FriendFeed useful for me.
- Bartek Ciszkowski
I know how you feel.. I can post a link and it'll get ignored. Someone else with a higher profile will post the same thing and it'll generate a load of activity. This is a central problem I notice across the net - it's billed as the great equaliser but it isn't, people don't have a fair shout because of human nature and its tendancy to coaless around "prominent personalities" and cliquish behaviours. I doubt this is a "problem" that can be fixed by technology as it sits much deeper.
- alphaxion
@alphaxion I've had that happen a few times. At first I was kinda miffed that I'd posted something topical and relevant and got no response, and then someone else had posted the same link a couple of hours later and got 30-40 comments. Still, I still post stuff I find interesting, and that I hope others will too. If we don't post links, because we think that it will always only be the high-profilers ones that get read, then it WILL always only be theirs that get read!
- Ian May
Kyle, you said "I don't find anything wrong with a random meme when you are still contributing to the tech community." The problem is when a bunch of people participate in every meme: those people stop functioning productively in the tech community. P.S. I'm glad my month-long curmudgeonry about MemeFeed has finally gotten mainstream!
- Mark Trapp
There's something productive about the contributions of the tech community? News to me - a thousand people going "ZOMG Google Chrome!!!" and "Dude check out my iPhone!" strike me as being about as useful as lolcats but less interesting.
- Eric P
There's a tech community on FriendFeed? Where? I see a lot of talk about Web 2.0 sites and using webapps, but very very little about tech.
- Jason Carreira
@Mark What is a productive tech community?
- Kyle Lacy
@ian I know, I have the same philosophy with everything - I post to my site even though no-one goes to it, I produce podcasts that no-one will see nor hear. I don't care about any lack of traffic, I do it cause I want to. If someone else picks up on it, ok. If I change one persons opinion, fantasic job done. @jason we are there, it's just we don't have many subscribers to hear it ;)
- alphaxion
It was just Sunday night - everyone is more relaxed over the weekend.
- Jesse Stay
+1 Jesse. Thank you
- Kyle Lacy
Agreed to a certain point. (I still like having fun with you all.) I will do my best to be more informative instead of entertaining. I will go for being 80% informative and 20% entertaining/fun. I don't want to treat FriendFeed like a Face Book or MySpace application or see it become one. I originally came to FF to follow some of the greatest tech minds ever and learn from them. I’m not apologizing for following the meme’s, but I will cut back from some of them.
- David Cook
Breakfast is still for WINNERS!
- Thomas Hawk
I still find it to be pretty useful. I don't check it everyday mostly because it requires more time to dig through everything and involve myself in some discussions that interest me. Yes there is a lot of noise but that unless your FOF is completely unmanageable there you can often find some great stuff buried in all that noise.
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
The problem I'm seeing is that people spend more and more of their time on the silly memes - which I suspect leaves little or no time to read worthy articles that are shared (often by less-popular users), and certainly almost no time to comment on them, especially considering how quickly they get buried by the meme entries. FF will need to overcome this.
- Aviv
The past 2-3 weeks have seen a huge upsurge in FF photo traffic, which is a direct result of the new photo feature being so easy to use now after the recent FF beta went into production (some of us were aware of how to use mail2ff app (which I think FF later acquired). So, I was expecting this increase; however, it certainly went viral when all these "meme" photos popped up. Early on, I suggested a MEME Room to contain all the madness so folks could manage their preferences to opt in/out. Cont'd.......
- Susan Beebe
Cont'd....... Also, I think we're seeing a genuine interest in folks getting to know each other better. This generated the whole photos idea, which seems to have cemented new online friendships and opened the door to a plethora of new "memes" thereafter. I still think we need a "meme room" to filter in/out this new content type. In the end, this all may be just a short-lived trend.
- Susan Beebe
as for the "silly meme" trend on ff, i don't mind them but haven't really participated much (i have very little time) - i have created a specialty list called "high volume" that gets most of these out of my primary feed/lists, it has cut down the noise but i still can go scan through them when time allows - works for me...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Gang, is FriendFeed specifically geared towards tech, or was it simply the early adopters that found and spread the concept of "life streaming"?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
If Newsgrange doesn't like what the people they follow are posting, they can simply change who they follow. To whine about this is a total waste of their time! Talk about ironic and not having a clue.
- Dread Pirate PJ
I think FriendFeed is becoming more than just a place for tech. Depending on the people you subscribe to, you could have a nature feed, you could have a geeky feed, you could have a tech feed and so on. I think FriendFeed is able to grow along with the diverse users. FriendFeed has the power to become a strong and powerful resource for anyone. Period. Regardless of anything, literally.
- wiredgnome
Calacanis: Collapsing Economy Will Kill 50%-80% Of Startups - http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008...
Elliott Ng, Stanley Wong, Atul Arora and 9 other people liked this
i don't completely agree with Jason's prediction (don't 80% of all startups fail even in GOOD times anyway?), but the post is sobering and worth reading. personally, i think it's a great time to start an internet business... but probably not so great if you've already raised $5-10M+ and haven't found a business model yet.
- dave mcclure
from Bookmarklet
Totally agree with you Dave ... this is the perfect time to start! If you can figure out a revenue model now, you are on your way to a highly successful business.
- Nick O'Neill
from twhirl
Exactly - same challenges are there that always were there. It's just much more obvious now.
- Jesse Stay
like @dave's comment
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
@dave: 100% support you, healthy startups with reasonable business models will be sure to survive and even one-man shows will have better chances of succeeding now that less venture-backed products are launched.
- Svetlana Gladkova
Because I've seen it posted here: Barack Obama is **NOT** the most liberal senator in Congress. The most liberal senator is Bernie Sanders from Vermont, and that's because he is a socialist. Thanks for playing "Your Talking Points Suck".
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Voting record for comparison to Obama's: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate...
- Steven Perez
Seriously, this drives me nuts. Every few months, someone new (usually someone prominent in the news cycle) is the "most liberal Congressperson" ever. Find new talking points already, because we now have this wonderful new invention called the Internet, where we can check on your scurrilous claims.
- Steven Perez
Steven, what rank is Obama then? Is he the most liberal who is not a Socialist? Most liberal Democrat? Second most liberal? I agree the Internet is wonderful. But you are not helping your cause by saying Obama is less liberal than the only socialist in the Senate. Thanks for playing "You just shot yourself in the foot". ;)
- Oldengrey (Jay)
When exactly did liberal become a dirty word? Look it up in the dictionary - trust me, you want a liberal raise. You want a liberal portion of pecan pie. End of the day, labels mean nothing and only serve to create friction and sell more detergent. Let's look at issues and ideas.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: Not a dirty word at all. It's a common descriptor that gives dimension outside of party affiliation. Conservative is the same kind of word. I'm all for issues and ideas. Just thought it was funny to use a socialist to prove this particular point.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
It's hard to compare someone that has been in office for just during Bush's Administration and someone else who has been around through other admins--purely on how they have voted--of course he has voted liberal during this administration--so have A LOT of democrats-the admin has forced them too. It would be more accurate to just go back the time period Obama has been in office and then compare them--or actually look that their views and policy ideas.
- Kelly W.
Hmm, gee, an argument about talking points, so informative.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jay: I submit that ranking who is or isn't "the most liberal Senator" is a false argument, put forth only to divide loyalties of the American voting populace. The real question is not who is the most "liberal" of senators; the real question is "What have you done with the people's trust with your time in the Senate?" Playing with labels is a fool's game.
- Steven Perez
We've seen what's happened to the country while it has been controlled by "conservatives." I say it's time for a "liberal.'
- iTad
Folks, seriously, this is all a lot of hot air. Instead of pissing each other off arguing about pointless banality, can we try to talk about some stuff that actually matters? I know, I'm tilting at windmills here.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason: thank you. That is entirely my point.
- Steven Perez
Steven: Like I said, I was just responding to your post. It was your point and your gripe. Look at the tone of your original post. You certainly have enough people who agree with you. I have been properly chastened, for not arguing the issues on a post that was not arguing the issues. I will now exit the echo chamber.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
My "tone"? I react to a gross distortion in a proportional manner, and the issue is my tone?!?
- Steven Perez
Chinese regulator calls US lending 'ridiculous' - http://biz.yahoo.com/ap...
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"U.S. lending standards before the global credit crisis were "ridiculous," and the world can learn from China's more cautious system as it considers financial reforms, the top Chinese bank regulator said Saturday."
- FFing Enigma
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Pandora:CONGRESSIONAL EMERGENCY! Pandora needs our help now! - http://blog.pandora.com/pandora...
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When I spoke to Pandora founder Tim Westergren last week he told me that there would be a time when the Internet radio site would need to issue a call to arms to its listeners — that time is now.
- Colide81 (James)
bump!
- Colide81 (James)
Thanks James! :) Lucia, from Pandora
- Pandora Radio
@Lucia I love Pandora so I will fight till the very end! :-)
- Colide81 (James)
Katie Couric just said "It really was experience versus judgment, wasn't it?"
Jonathon, Sally Church, Vinay | विनय and 12 other people liked this
That was very well put.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, that's what I thought....
- FFing Enigma
I would tend to agree with this, Tina.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
In fact, I have the same question with Biden and Palin, actually.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
That debate should prove *most* interesting. My husband will be at pool, so I will be free to yell at the TV whenever necessary.
- FFing Enigma
From a high level it might appear that the VP debate would be the mirror image of tonight but I think Biden will be careful not to come off as condescending.
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
Oh, I can't wait for the Biden / Palin debate! It could take 'experience vs judgment' to a whole new level. I just can't see Palin speaking with any depth on most of the topics. She has not been able to do so thus far, I can't see that changing over the course of a couple of weeks.
- Jeff P. Henderson
As long as Biden doesn't come across as McCain a la "I don't think Mrs. Palin understands..." then it's all good.
- FFing Enigma
thanks for doing the room steve - tossing aleve to all the future hang overs and watch those sharpie dick folks
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Yeah, thanks, Steve. :)
- Steven Perez
Yep. Thanks, Steve...you're swell. ;)
- Bonita Garrabrant
Yes, kudos Steve!
- Richard Walker
Good job, Steve.
- Rochelle
Yeah, thanks Steve.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah Steve....thanks for even allowing Republicans to enter.
- Jennifer Marie Sandbank
Yeah, thanks Steve, it was fun. :) I love how civil everyone has been.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
Yes, that was a fantastic idea!
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
The room was great! I needed the laughs to calm me after listening to politicians drone on about nothing.
- Nathaniel Payne
I approve the room message.
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
I echo Molly. This room was a lot of fun, surprisingly civil, and truly enlightening. Thanks, Steve Isaacs!
- Mark Czerniec
I agree. Thank you Steve!
- Tamara J.
MCCAIN, "I've done this, and I've done that, and I've known so-and-so for 35 years, and I talk slow and blink because I lie" OBAMA: "I fucking got this, people."
Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart, Anna Lynn M., Nathan Chase and 11 other people liked this
Please let that be true, Pete. I'm in such a bad mood right now. I wanted Obama to take it directly to McCain more than he did. Felt like a lot of defense/clarification to me. I hope it came across differently to undecideds.
- Ayşe E.
i do think he got caught up in trying to correct or defend himself against mccain's attacks a bit much. there should have been more energy with his offense and attempts in trying to lead the debate
- Cee Bee
If McCain thinks Obama doesn't have the experience needed in a dangerous world, whey did he pick Sarah Palin with even less fp exp? #current
Amy Brown, Cianna Stewart, Greg Bond and 11 other people liked this
The CNN audience lines all synchronize when Obama speaks. He's using voodoo mind-control.
Steve Sebestyen, Mathew™ aka Youngblood, AJ Batac :) and 2 other people liked this
Whoa.... totally right, that's freaky
- Steve Sebestyen
McCain will reach across the aisle, but he won't look across the f**king room.
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nice!
- Peter Ghosh
LOL!
- Steven Perez
he needs to say that
- Peter Ghosh
That's cause he can't see that far... plus it's hard to turn his head
- Steve Sebestyen
One at a time, one at a time, that means both SHUT UP and let Jim talk.
Steve Sebestyen, Tamara J. and Steven Perez liked this
Notice how cockily and smoothly Obama said "Ahmedinejad" after McCain's Akhmemeninaninanonanonanojadoojade effort.
Anika, Steven Perez, Jason Toney and 6 other people liked this
puh, puh, perestroika
- anna sauce
OMG MCCAIN LOSES
- Akiva
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
- Steve Sebestyen
LOL.
- Tamara J.
How scary was the financial situation this week? The oldest mutual fund in Wall Street broke the buck (lost money) for the first time....ever.
Charlie Anzman, Steve Sebestyen, AJ Kohn and FFing Enigma liked this
Heard about it on NPR.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Are you surprised?
- FFing Enigma
Ooooh, I've got some great beads if we do!! Or, how about spices? I've got a mad crazy spice stash!
- FFing Enigma
LOL!!! No, but I almost screen-capped the order I placed on Papa John's online tonight: they have 'spice' for free =D
- FFing Enigma
It was damn scary when I looked at my portfolio, then I realized I'm young and have time to ride this out, so to celebrate I'm going to drink tonight and watch the market collapse.
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
HAAAAAAAAhahahahahaha!!! I think you're the 4th pizza order I've generated tonight!
- FFing Enigma
I've lost a couple of subscribers over the past week or so, which is understandable: I've been rather focused on economics and politics lately. I've realized, though, that it's because I find both situations so utterly, incomprehensibly *stupid*.
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... I promise, though, that I'll try to get back in touch with some generally hilarious stupidity in the near future =)
- FFing Enigma
don't change
- Peter Ghosh
Thanks, Peter. Don't know that I could even if I wanted to =)
- FFing Enigma
I get the notice when people subscribe but ... I actually haven't checked to see if they still are subscribed. Looking now ... [edit] seems like a lot. *shrugs* If the subscribe, they subscribe if they don't ... they don't.
- AJ Kohn
Even with my lowish numbers I've lost a couple. But, did we really lose anyone or was FF incorrect in their counts?
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Tina - I'm digging discussions about economics and politics with you. Don't stop!
- Hutch Carpenter
Tina, if I could only follow you a second time, I would :)
- Johnny
Just find some new ones to add. There's plenty of people who still love you for you, Tina.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I get notices when ppl subscribe, and I've been running FriendVenn to keep up with subs (as those have been going up quickly) http://ff.deasil.com/friendv... and that's where I started noticing some subs dropping (cause I can see the subscription email and see they're no longer subbed). It's only a handful, and that's ok. And Hutch: I'm having a geeky good time with politics and the economy right now. It's like a car wreck: I can't help but watch!
- FFing Enigma
Tina - I apologize, I stole those subscribers.... it's my content, it's undeniably superior... sorry
- Steve Sebestyen
from twhirl
I dig the fact you do not censor who you are or what has your attention just to put up a happy shiny shell. Be you. Makes for the best FFeeders.
- Michael W. May
Well, this wasn't intended as a pity me post, but I appreciate all the kind words =D I'm not worried about losing folks, but I do think the phenomenon is interesting. A social experiment of sorts... Ties into my love of spreadsheets and charts ;-)
- FFing Enigma
Open call for drinking game rules. At the moment we're thinking anytime Obama says "Change" or "Hope, and when McCain says "country" or "my friends". Have ideas? Let's hear 'em!
Russellreno, dgw, Roberto Bonini and 8 other people liked this
Anytime either candidate lies we drink, but that would probably kill us all.
- Peter Ghosh
Any reference by McCain to POW days
- Lori Reed
Damn Peter, you stole my rule!
- Steve Lowe
This is going to be dangerous. Palin already wants to make me throw something at the TV, this debate may finally uncork me.
- Peter Ghosh
Everytime McCain reveals that "I'm annoyed and am going to tear your fucking head off" smile, we drink.
- Peter Ghosh
Take a shot whenever McCain does that strange, creepy laugh.
- Anika
During the Democratic debates we almost got alcohol poisoning on this one, but take a drink every time Obama says 'Uh...'.
- Anika
Must drink be alcoholic? I realize this takes away some of the fun, but unfortunately some of us must be coherent early the next morning. I'm thinking of using hot chocolate. The sugar high must be worth something/
- Katy S
the debates are on a friday night!
- Anika
Katy, I'll be doing shots of orange juice since I'm pregnant. You can join me in the non-alcoholic drinking game club. :)
- Rochelle
chug (like it's 1929) if anyone mentions the economy
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
How about we puke if anyone says anything close to "Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy"?
- tehKenny
I think "FIGHT" is more appropriate for McCain... he's always FIGHTING for something.
- Steve Sebestyen
Drink whenever McCain makes that cheesy shit eating smile.
- Shawn Farner
You guys are all going to die if you follow these rules tonight. :-)
- Jordan Hofker
Obama says: "that's a debate i'm willing/ready to have."
- Anika
drink any time McCain confuses Iran and Iraq.
- Anika
Any reference to 9/11 you have to drink
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Drink bleach every time you believe something John McCain says.
- tehKenny
It had so much potential. - http://macnugget.org/photos...
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we still have about 200 3.5 floppies my husband refuses to part with. problem: the only computers that can even read them are both dead.
- Anika
I also kept all my floppies, I'm thinking that maybe my kids, grand-kids, etc, would get a kick out of seeing for themselves this old technology, just like I love playing around with old antique gear. I also kept my old computers.
- Vincent X
I still have, somewhere, all 20+ floppies required to install OS/2 1.3 and 2.1.
- Akiva
I trashed mine in the last move.
- Russellreno
I still have Turbo Pascal install disks somewhere.
- Morton Fox
I have an 8" floppy.
- iTad
Tad wins :)
- Imabug
oh tad *facepalm*
- Anika
oh, I had my FidoNet point running on Desqview as multitasker over DOS ;) back in beginning of 90s ;)
- A. T.
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