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I have a Google Wave now. soner.gonul [at] googlewave [dot] com. How can I learn use this service? Share your useful information about Google Wave...
nat bas, Kol Tregaskes, Gajamoo and 19 other people liked this
yeah, please share :)
- Rachael Depp
it's something like friendfeed
- میثم
it sure isn't
- Yusuf Önder Us
Three Google Wave Searches Worth Saving - Searches - Lifehacker http://lifehacker.com/5383221...
- Jackie
GO2WEB20 Blog: 11 Wave Tools You May Not Know Exist http://blog.go2web20.net/2009...
- Jackie
This might help you with the basics! http://bit.ly/18d59C
- Praveen Vasudev
Best Google Wave Tips and Tricks http://techie-buzz.com/feature...
- Jackie
Good find Jackie!
- Praveen Vasudev
no comment -.-
- JoeD
Won't be fun until everyone else is on it.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oreilly has a quality writeup with shortcuts explanations and screenshots: http://oreilly.com/web-dev...
- TrafficBug
GWave = a very confusing solution built to solve no particular problem
- Dave Pook
@Dave I bet there are many tools in your daily life you can't imagine any particular use for you. This doesn't mean it isn't usefull for others. Did you ever tried to send a Math formular over an IM? Colaborating?!
- JoeD
Well, the only one that seems to have a handle on it is Samuel L. Jackson but I couldn't stay long though he apologized for his unseemly language when explaining how to use it. :) Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Melanie Reed
Google Wave to me its just a bit more complicated than Adobe connect. The main issue you want to resolve is remote communication with workmates in a virtual office. Visuals/and audio take care of the mimic but you need a record. So why not just make small visual records of meetings? Not mentally challenging enough for you? Well, then let's throw FF, email, chat, FB, and file sharing all together and see what happens.
- Melanie Reed
Hopefully this site can provide resources to help people get started: I Created a community around #googlewave - searching and rating of public waves, user lists, vids, forums with bot and gadget lists - check it out at http://www.igooglewavers.com and please feel free to contribute to the site and community.
- Justin H. Johnson
*bumps*
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Please wave invite plzz thanks esedereli@gmail.com
- Deniz Özbay
Other tips about Google Wave, shortcuts and searches: http://exde601e.blogspot.com/2009...
- George Moga
The Complete Guide to Google Wave: How to Use Google Wave http://completewaveguide.com/
- LouCypher
Aptana Jaxer - The Javascript Server - http://jaxer.org/#
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"Create entire apps using JavaScript and Ajax Use the same ubiquitous set of languages you find in the Web browser, on the server to build full apps or presentation tiers faster and more easily." Use jQuery on the server side, yo!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
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OH GOD NO. I use JavaScript more than I ever wanted to already, and that's just doing client-side stuff. I use it any more and my brain will explode.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
LOL! But you wouldn't have to "switch" back and forth that way, Chris... It's all one happy language.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I'd much rather be able to do my server-side scripting in C#, or maybe Perl. (Seriously, Perl in the browser, how awesome would that be? :)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
C# looks more and more like Javascript with every release anyway... we've got chaining and stuff now... It's much easier to flip back and forth for me with C# than other options.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
had a lot of fighting to get in working with WAMP and failed :( Looks promising but needs some better documentation and the forums are locked so no help available either :( I really want this to work, I am currently using phpQuery to do stuff clientside (along with my PHP based CMS) and would love to switch to JS and jQuery.
- Dave Pook
Untitled Document - http://www.russellmcveigh.info/jtalk
JQuery text to speech plugin, has so many uses my head hurts :)
- Dave Pook
It’s true. McDonalds has a website for black people. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Mary, Mitchell Tsai, Kol Tregaskes and 47 other people liked this
I still can't quite believe this.
- Zee.
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What? I mean, what??? Huh?
- Blackeyed P
yeah, exactly...
- Zee.
From the screenshot: "Like the mighty Baobab, McDonald's and I will not be moved." Call me horrified.
- Blackeyed P
Ronald is a slow learner.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Somebody should do Ronald in blackface to drive this one home :-/
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Uh....
- Helen Sventitsky
+1 Richard.
- Blackeyed P
Coke Blaq? Was it for Blaq people? I must have missed that.
- Blackeyed P
yeah, i never heard of it either
- Zee.
Coke Blaq incorporated coffee and had nothing to do with black people.
- Derrick
WTFingF??
- Joe Silence
Kevin M. is an inspiration to us all. And the execs at McDonald's just don't think.
- Kevin Winn
usa/fun/365_black.html
- Melrose Stamp
WTF?
- Ozkan Altuner
This is a shame...
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
equal opportunity (now my wife can be offended as well)! --> http://www.myinspirasian.com/
- Joe Silence
I'm confused. What's with the WTF's? and crapping bricks over this?
- Valley
And for you of E. Asian extraction: http://www.myinspirasian.com/
- Christopher A Carr
I was fully expecting a negro spiritual to stay playing in the background.
- Yolanda
or maybe "Thaat Eggg McMuffffin! Thaat Eggg McMuffffin! Thaat Eggg McMuffffin gaave me gaaass!"
- Joe Silence
Sh.t !
- `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN
I could really go for an Egg Mc Muffin right now.
- Louis Gray
i prefer the McGriddle. so does my cardiologist.
- Joe Silence
Is there a site for those of Viking heritage?
- Gus
The issue is that McD's just went through an embarrassing episode a year or so ago over their poor treatment of Black customers. They really ought to avoid any mention of race until that has been forgotten.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Euh... While I am sure it is a different marketing group, actually creating a different website clearly labelled for the black people - It just seems ridiculous somehow.
- James Kuypers
I suppose that's true, but I still dislike when communities are targeted for stuff that's unhealthy or unfair, like fast food, "payday" check cashing, and malt liquor. Call me old-fashioned. (edit: Actually, malt liquor probably doesn't qualify)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
They are just giving black folks an opportunity to serve their community, making them responsible for the welfare of their own environment.
- Christopher A Carr
McD's made an Asian-American site a while back. It was not well thought out. (story here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004... , site now here: http://www.myinspirasian.com/ ) ... D'oh, Christopher AND Dead Silence got there first.
- Andrew C
BTW, how is it I'm the first one to mention Calvin? ( http://books.google.com/books... )
- Andrew C
Andrew: I referenced it indirectly.
- Christopher A Carr
Fair enough!
- Andrew C
...via the Chapelle reference.
- Christopher A Carr
i actually posted the Asian site first. :P
- Joe Silence
Ah, yes you did...
- Christopher A Carr
yo quiero big bag of inappropriate marketing.
- Joe Silence
So McD's must have a Hispanic site too.
- Andrew C
yes, they do.
- Joe Silence
((Insert really, really, REALLY bad joke about KFC having a website for black people))
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Wait, for real???? Although, I'm sure they have a spanish one for the Hispanic audience. It's weird... somehow this seems strange.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
This sounds gross.
- Kamilah Gill
from email
It's a site aimed at landing a job at McD's. From the site: "It's a place where you can learn more about education, employment, career advancement and entrepreneurship opportunities, and meet real people whose lives have been touched by McDonald's."
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
@Zulema for black people yeah.
- Zee.
Zee you bring up a great point, "...how would the world react to a 365White?"
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Zulema - huh! The As-Am & Hispanic ones seem more like regular marketing sites. wait, no, 365Black still pushes the food.
- Andrew C
Where's the website for white people?
- xero
This is patronizing and irritating. All you folks popping up whining "it's just targeted marketing. what's wronnng?", kindly stfu. You know exactly what's wrong. I'm tired of being "targeted" as if I'm not a regular person capable of finding a job at frigging McDonald's without having my hand held. Major UGH.
- Kamilah Gill
at least it's not Billy Dee Williams (a.k.a. Lando Calrissian - Administrator Of This Facility) grinning and saying "Works every time!".
- Joe Silence
mmm...Colt 45
- Christopher A Carr
Hmph. Most of the world *is* 365White, so that's a red herring. My issue with this is not the race-specific advertising, or even the use of the baobab tree iconography. My issue is that yet again a company whose bottom line is made by pushing unhealthy substances is targeting a minority community. Educational advances aside (and I know several people who made it through college *and* B-school thanks to MickeyD's), this kind of stuff is killing people, especially people who look like me.
- cecily
i was more of the Olde English 800 type. :P
- Joe Silence
OTOH, I'm willing to cut them a little more slack because McDonald's will build outlets in neighbourhoods that other businesses won't touch. I don't see Whole Foods putting up a store on Bankhead Highway. Businesses have all but deserted the inner-city, an in a lot of cases, fast food outlets are the only source of employment opportunities for people who don't have access to reliable...
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- cecily
McDodo's was the FIRST chain to pull out when the southeastern part of my city went from lilly white to mostly hispanic and Vietnamese.
- Joe Silence
Because the gift of pandemic diabetes in the black community just wasn't enough, your very own black McDonalds website...
- Christopher A Carr
Dead Silence, they were the *last* to pull out of my hood when things took a turn for the worse. I see your anecdote and match it. :-D
- cecily
sounds like your area got the better treatment from them.
- Joe Silence
and, actually, that part of our city is still thriving and low crime, just no national chains seem to want to do business there cos it's not white enough for them.
- Joe Silence
And I'm wondering - have any of you who are feeling the most outraged ever taken a look at some back issues of Ebony, Jet, or Essence magazine? This kind of race-specific marketing is nothing new - it's just on the innernetz where it will reach a broader audience. Why the hue and cry now?
- cecily
Probably cause I'm not black and have almost never read those magazines. Certainly the As-Am mags I've read (only sporadically) have never had as ham-handed advertising as McD's Asian site. At least, I don't think they did/do.
- Andrew C
It's not all that outrageous in terms of being surprising, it's just that McDonalds is so, uh, crudely blatant about it, in what would seem to me intelligence insulting fashion.
- Christopher A Carr
I don't care how positive the marketing spin is on fast food and $200 dollar sneakers, frankly.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
I think it's fair to argue whether the site is well done or not, or whether it achieves a certain objective or not. And, frankly, if you're white, unless you're extremely competent about African-American culture, you may not be able to have a fully informed opinion on that. It's a little naive to be surprised by the site's existence, though. Every major consumer products company has its own ethnic marketing division.
- Erica Mauter
don't know why i find this offensive...
- Tate DA FF MVP
Additionally, McDonald's has always placed emphasis on the business opportunities it makes available. They provide tons of scholarships for their young employees. They do good things. You can't be made at them for marketing their product. There is more than enough information out there; that choice is entirely on the consumer.
- Erica Mauter
Advertising is insulting in general, usually. Why the indignation over this? Advertising has always and will always be the seller of something telling me how good it is. Conflict of interest anyone? So, I guess this falls into that category for me. Oh yeah, and the material isn't offensive in and of itself, it requires a human to interact with it and decide for themselves, offensive or not. Offensive is in the eye of the beholder, or something...
- Joshua Kahn
Wow, just wow! What was McDonald's thinking when they did this?! Don't they realize they're alienating people?! This is the dumbest idea of the year! *sigh*
- Susan Beebe
The about page is at http://www.365black.com/365blac... - and are we going to be enraged when companies target...teenagers?
- John E. Bredehoft
that is completely different John...and i'm hoping you know it
- Zee.
Blame the partners http://www.365black.com/365blac... including the Thurgood Marshall College Fund, BET.com (hmm, come to think of it, that's a whole television network that's targeting a particular audience), and VIBE (hmm again).
- John E. Bredehoft
Or blame the award winners http://www.blackgivesback.com/2009... "This year McDonald's recognizes Black Enterprise publisher Earl G. Graves, Sr.; CNN journalist Soledad O'Brien; NBA legend and philanthropist Alonzo Mourning; House Majority Whip and Congressman James E. Clyburn (D-SC) and McDonald's Owner and Operator Frank E. Mason. These...
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- John E. Bredehoft
And someone DOES blame the partners http://regeneratormag.com/economi... "Whatever the case may be, McDonald’s is safe so long as it stays partnered with All The Things Black People Love™: BET, Vibe, Coca-Cola, the CIAA and the Thurgood Marshall College Fund. These august institutions would never partner with the likes of Ronald “i’m lovin’ it” McDonald unless they had the Community’s best interest at heart."
- John E. Bredehoft
Well, if I was to apply what I have been learning in Economics, I would say that McDonalds has stepped out in front with what a lot of business are going to do (and some have already begun to make noises in that direction) .http://www.365black.com/365blac...
- Melanie Reed
"...McDonald's has branched out to the African-American community *nourishing* it with valuable programs and opportunities..." Pfft. I'm glad they're nourishing it with "programs," cause they sure as hell aren't nourishing it with that engineered, sugar/fat pseudo-food.
- Christopher A Carr
Why do you feel alienated, Susan? Anyone else who feels this way is free to answer.
- cecily
*sigh* Why do we always forget what we've already discussed? 365White would be redundant since our world is already white 365 days of the year. Especially here in the US. It's the same as people getting upset over the Blackbird browser and talking about Whitebird or whatever. Many don't see it or don't want to see it, but our world is tilted in favor of one race at this point and we need balance. NO! Obama is NOT that balance.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
how do you mean our world is already white 365 days of the year?
- Zee.
Jesus, Joseph, and Mary. *sigh*
- Derrick
Why do we have black history month?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Cecily, I guess I don't have the standing to say whether 365Black is offensive to me, but I've definitely felt that myinspirasian.com is offensively condescending. Targeted marketing is one thing, but silly and offensively simplistic stereotypes are a distinct subset of targeted marketing.
- Andrew C
to celebrate black history. That's not the same as McDonalds designing a site specifically for black people though
- Zee.
I demand a McD's site aimed towards atheistic pasty white folks of Protestant Irish descent.
- Tad
Well, the point of the site, so they say, is to celebrate black history every day of the year. Just as the majority of history any kid will learn in school will *not* be black history. I'm not sure if that's really the goal of the site, but that's what it says. Does anyone here have a problem with celebrating black history and culture every day of the year? All 365 of them?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
seriously Rah...? You believe this site really is to celebrate black history every day of the week?
- Zee.
Fair points, Andrew, but I'm trying to get to why people are so upset about this, and most of the commentary (IMO) has little to do with being pandered to. I get the feeling people think that because African Americans are being targeted in this campaign that they're somehow being given an unfair advantage.
- cecily
That's what it says. There is even an opportunities link. Could it just be a way to market to the black community and make us eat more of their garbage? I don't know. The point is, black people have probably made McDonald's a lot of money. It *IS* one of the places that will probably hire black people and even promote them eventually. The DO have ties to the black community that run a...
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- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The site isn't just celebrating history (or those 'exceptional' black folk), but to celebrate achievement, whether that achievement comes as the result of education or business success. They're separate but complementary goals.
- cecily
Looks like Cecily and I are seeing the same things in regards to this. Some are mentioning the pandering aspect as the offense, but most are just upset that black people have something separate. The latter always seems to be the point of contention as the immediate response is to say "what if we had a white X", which is a completely redundant statement if you're paying attention. I also have a sneaking suspicion that those outside of the US may have a harder time grasping what's going on.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Huh. FWIW, my upsetness was mostly about the sense of McD's pandering. I may well be overly sensitive; it could be "liberal guilt". I certainly didn't think there was any 'unfair advantage' going on.
- Andrew C
basically, for me - the sooner we get rid of anything that distinguishes people by color...the better.
- Zee.
++Zee
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I feel you, Zee, but we are just no there yet. At this point, your desire is like wishing paralyzed people could walk and viewing wheel chairs as simply a way to delay that reality. At this point, we still need extra support because we have people who absolutely DO NOT agree with you. Racism is alive and well. Things are skewed. There needs to be balance.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've had a long day at work and don't have enough brain power to fully participate in this thread. that said, I am black and McDonald's 365 website doesn't offend me one bit. it's an educational destination held together by advertising. sure, it may pander - what major advertising doesn't? ever see a Mac commercial? as several people have mentioned before, this type of marketing is not...
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- jbrotherlove
you're probably right, we're not there yet...but i can't see how this helps
- Zee.
Oh right, re-reading the thread reminded me why I thought it was pandering: the 'mighty baobab' line. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
- Andrew C
Definitely not discounting that interpretation, Andrew. I'm not exactly getting a pure vibe from the site,but I'm suspicious of any corporation focusing on a minority.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
My issue is with people being against minority-specific things. When the majority stops stacking the deck against us, we won't have the need to build our own decks. Just because there are a few who believe we shouldn't have to take such actions, doesn't mean we don't have to.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
McD wants to sell hamburgers. Everything else is advertising/PR to that end.
- Christopher A Carr
For those who haven't seen it, here's Steven Hodson's Inquisitr post about the site. It made him cranky: http://www.inquisitr.com/34468...
- John E. Bredehoft
And my post on the site, which mostly concentrates on the diversity vs. black only issue, but also touches on some things I noted above. I also take issue with Steven Hodson saying it's OK for BET.com to target a particular race, but then saying that BET.com can't sponsor 365black.com http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009...
- John E. Bredehoft
"Most of the world *is* 365White"??? Only if you think that the world *is* 100% USA! I think you will find that over 50% of the world's population is of Asian Origin, add to that the 15% that make up the population of Africa and you can see just how white the world really *is* ;)
- Dave Pook
Recently, we have LAN games can use to now download the demo in Macdonald's shop.
- Ami Iida
Would this website and book be the cultural answer to the McDonalds 365 site? http://books.google.com/books...
- derikp
Absolutely not?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
OK, I have a question for those who objected to 365black.com - did you object to the concept, or the execution? Pepsi seems to have a less heavy-handed execution (no Baobab trees), but they have a site with the same concept. I heard about it via a Corvida Raven share http://friendfeed.com/corvida... (she's featured on the site).
- John E. Bredehoft
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