Arrington was quite a jerk on this show. the "What are you going to do about it" line was right out of Jr. High.
- Jeff Jones
I liked Leo before, but now I respect him even more! Good for you not taking any shit from Arrington, Leo. If he knew you at all, he'd know you buy nearly everything you review. I've lost lots of respect for Arrington here--what a playground bully. I love that Leo just shut 'em all down! Thanks for sharing, Kevin, great stuff. I hope Leo has no regrets, because there should be none.
- Paul Salzman
I've never understood why Kevin, Leo, or any other well known technology people ever give a douchebag like Arrington the time of day.
- Chris Luckhardt
Leo : once again you've showed there are people we trust and follow (i.e you) and those who can't. Have been following and trusting you a long time, and will do more than ever now.
- arnaudt
Leo had every right to tell that guy to shove it. Mike was questioning Leo's integrity, in an irritating and cowardly manner to boot! What self-respecting journalist wouldn't, and shouldn't, react similarly?
- Ryan Shepherd
I've sometimes had a hard time reading arrington's articles on TechCrunch. They seemed to have tone that I couldn't really like. This little bit kind of solidified that thought and feeling about him.
- Robert de Castro
That was awesome! Leo, your integrity has always been top notch and you shouldn't let anybody question or tarnish it! Keep up the awesome work!
- Sean Simkins
What an arrogant ass. Way to stick it to him, Leo!
- Shawn Poulson
This is first time i've seen him like this.But he was correct in his stand, a review unit can't really influence such a decision.
- Abhishek
Arrington is a jerk. Leo is a class act all the way. SCREW YOU Arrington. your blog sucks anyway.
- Rustic Thoughts
Leo has always been a man of integrity and surely has earned the right to give Arrington directions to Hell, when having his honor questioned. You go, Leo! --- Regular TWiT podcast, er . . . netcast listener, La-Tonia Denise Willis in Seattle
- PODFICTIONONLINE
Is it just me or techcrunch.com has this unexplainable air of unpleasentness in their posts?
- Alpay Erturkmen
Caroline: if you have digg fed into friendfeed then when you digg a story it comes over to friendfeed - kevin didn't post it if you go to the digg story you can find out who did - he even beat the creator of the video which is pretty impressive
- Chris Heath
I don't really know who is right, but I don't think that it's unreasonable to disclose that you were given something for free when making a recommendation about it. As matter of a fact, not disclosing it makes me question a persons integrity.
- Ron Hagenhoff
it wasn't FREE it was a 7-day review unit that he only asked for because he couldn't go wait in line for one. it was launched on saturday and leo does the radio show on saturday - therefore he reluctantly asked for a review unit - does that make sense?
- Chris Heath
Well since it wasn't free why get so angry? Arrington asked for Leo to make it clear to everyone that the unit was free. Wasn't free end of story. Obviously, there's prior issues between the 2 and I just think that it's weird all these people picking sides.
- Ron Hagenhoff
After watching a 2nd time I realized that Arrington pushed on with the FREE accusation even after Leo had said that the Pre wasn't free, That it was just a 7 day demo unit, and that he was thinking of buying one. My bad! I've heard that Arrington has since apologized though and that's a respectable thing to do.
- Ron Hagenhoff
I watched this about 4 times and wish I could make out what Mike was saying when they all were talking. I applaud Leo for standing up on the show live yet kinda sad to see him this way. I understand why Leo got the review unit. Mike went to far even if he thought Leo was wasn't serious. Edit: This is Mikes post on TechCrunch http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- James Reeves
While I like listening to Leo and admire his work, I do not think it is fair to do all this 'Mike' bashing.
- Kevin J Hatton
Sure, Mike apologizes and becomes adult about it now, after realizing once again that he doesn't hold near the audience that Leo does. If the tables were turned, I doubt he'd ever give Leo a second thought. What a turd.
- Fleagle
Can you say "Ooops I better kiss butt before I lose all my readers?"
- Rustic Thoughts
Leo is a bigger man for accepting Arrington's apologies. I still wont read his blog however.
- Rustic Thoughts
I agree. I am not sure why some of these guys give Arrington the time of day. Way to go Leo!
- Adam Martin
I don't understand how anyone would come on a show and blatantly press an integrity issue, valid or not, with the _host_ of the show. That would never end well.
- Shawn Poulson
"A software engineer who wrote what he calls a "terrible" and "crap" app in less time than it typically takes to eat lunch has since watched it shoot to the top of Apple's App Store, where it's now generating over $200 an hour despite being a free download."
- Patrick Jordan
It it really great that more and more developers are providing us with specific numbers around different revenue models. I hadn't realized that an app could make 5k a day in ad revenue. And this presumably is from people just checking out the app and not from daily use.
- David Clements
I think the whole subject of App Store price models and success strategies is pretty fascinating (I may be a bit of a sad bastard as it goes) - have you checked out the Mobile Orchard site? Very good analysis on these sort of subjects: http://www.mobileorchard.com/
- Patrick Jordan
Yeah mobile orchards stuff is great.... I haven't checked out that PDF yet but intend to. I really want someone to do an analysis of how many apps are still in active development. Currently we have 15k apps on the store but how many are abandoned by developers that realized that Gold rush was over.
- David Clements
@ David - you feel like momentum is slowing down then?
- Patrick Jordan
I think there is definitely opportunity but it appears that some form of external marketing is becoming more and more necessary. At the beginning it looked like if I cranked out enough, decent apps then I could sustain myself simply by continuing to update my applications. My data is showing a downward trend on this approach. And as such you are either going viral or you are going to converge down to zero. All that being said I am still learning and experimenting.
- David Clements
@ David - are you an iPhone dev yourself then?
- Patrick Jordan
crapware can only be a flash in the pan, not sustainable. having said that, given th install base, and based on basic laws of numbers, one can make a lot of money in a very short period of time tapping the right demographic. definitely a biz opportunity for advertisers wanting to get a message across in the form of short lived apps or apps with content.
- Pascal Bouvier
@ Pascal - I'm not sure whether crapware will be just a flash in the pan. I thought one of the comparisons that the young developer High Gloss made in the link above was a valid one - comparing the App Store to the pop music charts. IMO, there is tons of shite music that hits the top of the charts and makes serious money ...
- Patrick Jordan
@Patrick Yeah I am a developer. Both trying the indie thing and contracting for others.
- David Clements
@ David - excellent. Any apps you are able to name in here?
- Patrick Jordan
I think I saw on twitter he peaked at $200 an hour, and dropped down to $50 an hour. Still pretty good for 20 mins work. ;-) Read the reviews though - it's blowing up people's speakers.
- Tim
@Patrick Lots of apps. Chatterbox a paper fortune teller, WristPop Coin Toss, Origami Crane and XMas Tree, SUZU Alarm Clock and Meditation Timer, Thumb Piano and please don't excommunicate me for this one..... IBurp on Your Fart Ahhhhh....
- David Clements
@ David - cool - need to have a look at some of those ...
- Patrick Jordan
Yeah please do... Shoot me an email at promo at gidigo dot com and I'll hook you up with whatever you want to check out.
- David Clements
Just sent them to you.... How do you respond so quickly from FF. Is there an email notification?
- David Clements
@ David - thank you - I just check back on the Me > Comments + Likes area relatively often if I know I'm in a conversation that might get updated frequently ...
- Patrick Jordan
From the MIT Blackjack Team - an excellent analysis of the financial "Martingale" that fooled the investment industry. "as long as managers are paid a percentage for managing other people's money, they will compete with each other based on the returns they appear to generate. The pressure to create out-sized returns will eventually force them to invent the latest complex scheme which will have the same effect: eventually the investors lose it all."
- Leo Laporte
from Bookmarklet
feminism and other social justice perspectives still have a lot more work to do today in no small part thanks to Disney's work on young minds.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
That was a long time ago. Hope they've changed since then.
- Morton Fox
Love the header. Snow While smiling while the Seven Dwarves (men) look on. They'll put her in her place, don't you worry!
- Fleagle
Dang, and it was written by a woman too!
- Lindsay
why there aren't Nine Old Women whose work we revere
- Brian Oberkirch
i have the song "I'm just a girl" stuck in my head now.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Not only is the equal opportunity/ gender discrimination abhorrent, but also the "It would not be advisable..." don't-try-the-improbable part. Ironic. Walt Disney: "I could never convince the financiers that Disneyland was feasible, because dreams offer too little collateral." The difference between those earlier financiers and the 1930s Disney Productions is the later had almost nothing to lose, only something to gain by this woman coming to make a case for her talent.
- Micah Wittman
We have come a long way since then, although I have in my lifetime still be told that "women dont" or "women cant" (usually linked to either leadership or technical ability) - as well as "sign papers promising not to have children" (i refused, even though i didnt even want children) - and I was born in the 70s
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Although one thing that will be embarrassing to us in the future is that it is still ok to consider people "too young" or "too old" for certain jobs, wholesale. I find it absurd, and I can only imagine that some years from now people will gawk at current job ads and refusal letters in equally bemused manner.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)