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Talk about Facebook buying FriendFeed here (on FriendFeed, of course):
I'm not sure what it means, but I hope the goodness of Friendfeed stays intact. - Tom Landini
About time! - Rob H. from iPhone
I guess Facebook just got real time search engine! - Robert Scoble from iPhone
What do facebook get out of it? - Ruchit Garg
Fact or fiction? - Jason Cronkhite from iPhone
I haven't seen likes and comments stream real-time this fast before. - ydfeed
it could work. if Friendfeed completely replaces Facebook - Edgar Rodríguez
I think it's a brilliant move, although bringing this into the Facebook walled garden would ruin it. - Derek Shanahan
how much for? - Ruchit Garg
BAD 'n SAD :(( - sid 【ツ】
Great match to take on the Twitter machine. - Ryan Cummins
what is next..facebook killing twitter integration...SCORE....?? - Denis
++Edgar - Ryan
Good for Facebook, BAD for us. NOOOOOOOOOOOO - Nir Ben Yona
Presumably a technology acquisition then, Facebook is buying the team and the tech. - DGentry
I don't like it - Jason Hargrove
Just because Facebook bought Friendfeed, doesn't necessarily mean they will do anything with the service. At least maybe not right away. People need to chill out. - Alex Knight
hope it doesn't mess w/ twitter integration - Ken Seto
makes a lot of sense - f.b. now has a power house of real-time all-stars. fixes many of the feature 'wish' lists for f.b. - actually a major positive sign for innovation. congrats to the F.F. team. - michael sean wright
How can i shut down my ff account? - Fotis Alexandrou
I need a few hours and possibly large amounts of chocolate - Bwana ☠
If you are right, that "Facebook just got real time search engine", that is good - as FB really, really needed it for a long time. - Bora Zivkovic
:( - Sinem Co
There goes your data. - Jason Hargrove
This will probably be bad. like all purchases, it will be an "afterthought" and never be fully allowed to develop and flourish. - Ryan Jones
It almost seemed inevitable since Facebook has been copying so much of Friendfeed in recent months. It's good for the founders of FF and may benefit those of us who use both on a regular basis. Maybe they'll just leave FF alone? - Kenley Neufeld
Funny thing is, if you posted about this on Facebook, 99.9999% of it's users would go "huh, what's FriendFeed anyway?" - Richard Matthias
someone tell me what they will do with it? Nothing maybe? Kill it, maybe? - Francine Hardaway
Buy as is use it's IP and close it down or run as separate business? Either way, didn't see that coming. - Keith Bennett from BuddyFeed
It was bound to go down. Like we used to say on the block shootin' dice "Big Bank Take Little Bank" - professor daddyo
I do, however, wish tha tmore sites would implement this commenting engine. - Ryan Jones
Fotis: haha, wait too long, and you'll never be able to close your FF account ;) - Jason Hargrove
not believing it until another source confirms... - Benton
Congrats to the friendfeed team. Worried about the future though. - Andy Roth
Whats FriendFeed anyways? - Marco Horta
so that Facebook can maybe copyright the "Like" button? lol - Than R
How are we going to abbreviate it now? FBFF? FFFB? F^3B ? - Harry Wolff
I receive the breaking news via BNO News at this moment: Facebook acquires FriedFeed... - Torsten Eckert
haha you're right Richard - Ken Seto
I am stuck in Texas and have not confirmed myself. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Wow - Rodfather
OMG. - Nathan Chase
maybe they can implement threads? - Jeremy Toeman
It looks like a defensive move. I think it's better fro FB to acquire FF than incorporating twitter functionalities in their status feature. - Pablo Paniagua
Friendbook? Facefeed? - Jeff Harbert
If it's true, I suspect FriendFeed as we know it will be gone, but Facebook will be greatly improved. - Costa Walcott
bah. i will go do something else. this news isn't helping - Edgar Rodríguez
trying to look on the bright side - maybe we'll get those iPhone/Blackberry apps for better access to FriendFeed - Stuart Miniman
But if it isn't true we would have heard by now. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
apprehensive about this - Liz Polay-Wettengel
I want to hear the $$$ number - moo yu
Congrats to ff team...but how does this work? I have 2 different accounts...and I like it that way...I don't want to share/spam my friends on facebook with what I have here... - brainno722 (Peter)
@robert no we wouldnt have - Jeremy Toeman
Originally posted this to your other FF/FB post before you astarted this one: I don't see the point of Facebook acquiring FriendFeed. They are pretty much identical services (well, FF represents just the News Feed portion of Facebook) I don't see how they can incorporate FriendFeed into Facebook. If they really did buy it, then I see this as them going for programming talent more so... more... - Christopher A. Wichura
I'm hoping this improves Facebook (just like everyone else). Facebook has gotten horrible stale for me of late. - Harry Wolff
What's looking shiny and new now? :-) - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I've been needing a reason to get re-interested in Facebook, this could be it. - JonSupermurray
Friend management will need to be enhanced/overhauled. Otherwise, the noise will make the combined product unusable. - Peter Ghosh
Seriously, how can i shut it down? - Fotis Alexandrou
We'll have to wait for more details to see exactly what Facebook is planning to do with FF. - Antoniu
Bodes badly for FriendFeed. --rj - Roger Jennings
I think this is more of a "send the friendfeed traffic to facebook" than any kind of technical leverage. My biggest concern here: in order to exchange dialogue with people on facebook I need to be friends with them vs. being able to do it on friendfeed without having to friend them up. I find this valuable as there may be a topic or 5 that I want to engage with user "X" on, but I don't... more... - Erik Boles
I am disappointed by this news... I don't like Facebook at all... And I'm afraid they will just kill FriendFeed with their awful cluttered interface... - Lindsay
It depends on how they integrate it. Did they buy it for the search engine, or did they buy it as a potential for extending the reach of Facebook into real time conversations? It's all about the life stream now right? So probably Facebook's attempt to stake a claim there. - Tony "Frosty" Welch
bad days are coming - Ahmet Soyata
Fotis, why do you want to shut down our FF account? - Alex Knight
Bad bad bad bad bad bad ::runs screaming down the hall:: - mary hodder
First of all, I love the name "Facefeed." ROFL Second, this is business boys. Happens all the time. Why do you think innovation keeps happening. FB will integrate or kill off FF, and something else will happen. It's a natural cycle. - Francine Hardaway
Nir Ben Yona +1 - MugeCerman
wondering if i should continue aggregating all my online activity in frienfeed now that facebook owns it!! - Gtp19
I can't begin to process this right now. Too much work to focus on. Later when I read this 10,000 mile long thread and have a glass of Cab in hand. - Michele Lorito-Chase
Geeks and fb not a good mach - thomas elton from iPhone
Not feeling real good about this, hope fully Facebook will do right by the FF community, but I'm not holding my breath. Glad for the FF team though - Kim Landwehr
Twitter dissed again. - JonSupermurray
So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter.. - Nick Halstead
if you look closely at FF the large majority of FF posts are twitter posts, so there was not that much original content on FF in the first place... - Ingmar
Makes a lot of sense for Facebook. And we find this very healthy ^^ - twitscoop
People need to stop freaking out. The Facebook/Friendfeed buy out was just announced. Wait for details people. - Alex Knight
It could be bad, it could be good. As long as Facebook doesn't try to port their functionality over, I'm fine with it being a financial acquisition. - Adam Reyher
Crap, its official ! - Peter Dawson
This is really bad... a wonderful tool based on killer technology will go over into this mass market teeny poking culture. Bah! - Markus Tressl
then again it is great for linking FB, TW, flickr and so on - Ingmar
Here is the FF post on the acquisition: - Mrinal Desai
Great, why did I bother creating an account here? I could have held out. - desinole
if this is true, for the love of god, please don't Facebook go and mess up FriendFeed as they have their own system, Facebook is a mess these days, Friendfeed is one of the 2.0 sites that actually has concentrated on doing a few things well, complete opposite to Facebook. - Carl Grint
Cuz we all know that facebook doesn't respect user's privacy and you've got basically everything on ff, youtube, twitter, digg whatever you do - Fotis Alexandrou
Paul Buckheit will now be a house husband:-) - Francine Hardaway
Smart for Facebook but I prefer Friendfeed the way it is.What, we'll be throwing rabbits next? - Janet Fouts
FriendFeed listens to the community. Facebook doesn't. Not to mention they're ENTIRELY different communities. - Adam Reyher
If they keep FriendFeed as a separate site, and still upgrade regularly, this is fine. If FriendFeed winds up in the dead pool, then it sucks. - Steve Sill
If true, congrats to the FF Founders! - Jason Cronkhite from iPhone
I was just thinking how Friendfeed had stayed out of recent takeovers, mergers and hence cyber attacks. Will Friendfeed now be taken over by celebs and spammers too? - Nils Geylen
Not sure why this news makes me nervous. Please tell me it's going to be ok Scoble... - Lucas
it's true damn!!!! - Edgar Rodríguez
How can I spam on this thread please ? Any idea ? - Toucouleur
Facebook has ZERO respect for users' wishes... Friendfeed is incompatible with that. Friendfeed will be going away. :( Their blog post says as much: " will continue to operate normally **for the time being**. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product" - tollie williams
Ideally, FB will leave FF to do the sweet innovating they are doing and just take the awesome features and put them into FB - Ryan
This is the first time I've used Friendfeed in a year. Good move on their part. - chantelle
How Much ? $$$ ;-) - Jacopo Gio
So, where do we migrate to now? - Byron McCollum
FriendFeed functionality on Facebook would be nice. The reverse, not so much. They're trying to address two entirely separate purposes and as such, need to remain completely separate. - Adam Reyher
back to the twitter - emresezgin
I want numbers. how much did facebook pay? - Zac Bowling
Hum...let's see what happens. - Chip Hanna
Stay here until FB does something dumb with FF - Ryan
The rhetoric seems a bit too "Facebook will do what they want with us" and not "we will remain FF and continue forward". Seems as if FB went for the tech and we could lose FF as a seperate entity. Boo. - Derek Shanahan
confirmed by facebook press release. - Zac Bowling
Love 'em or hate 'em....Facebook made a phenomenal purchase. - Kevin Pruett
I see a ton of Wall Spam. Facebook users just don't get it when you port your twitter updates over. There is too much for them to wrap their heads around. This will be a hard transition. - Ryan Cummins
And I was REALLY getting fond of FriendFeed. From now on only downhill applicationwise? - Bart
Not happy about this. I use Facebook, but don't like it. It reminds me of AOL from 10 years ago. - David Sharpe
I agree that I don't want FB to mess up FF, but this will also give FF a higher profile and bring in many more users...which we may or may not like, judging by what happened on Twitter. I hope FF doesn't die off like Jaiku because I really think FF offers a more valuable and useful interface. - Cathryn Hrudicka
One thing to consider is this: If we have "trusted" the FriendFeed people not to screw things up, hopefully we can trust them to make sure they're still in control in the terms of the acquisition. - Adam Reyher
Its going to be called Facebook. - DGentry
I hope this is a joke.. Damn it, I dont like Facebook now there is nowhere to go... F*** - Jacque
I am trying to imagine how this will be a good thing for existing FF users. It feels so right and so wrong all at once!...Maybe at least my kids and wife will finally get what I've been ignoring them for over the past year. - Thom Kennon
Is that means we're going to see more extremist groups around, now that FB has acquired FF? - Nir Ben Yona
so where do all the cool kids go now? we need another startup, stat! - h1ro
I am afraid... what johnny2009 have said can really be the future... soon friendfeed will = Jaiku - Ahmed Mubbashir Khan
Damn,I've just"got friendfeed,and i love it.I definately don't like facebook.What does it mean for twitter? - Paul Downing
Any investors want to predict the buyout price? - Kevin Pruett
am gonna wait for google wave... coz in facebook, i cant access the complete stream for a month ago, the site goes down very often while browsing, and privacy issues galore!! congratulations for friendfeed but its jus me!!! - Gtp19
Maybe we´re seeing here one of FriendFeeds biggest discusions ever. I´m sceptic about the future of FF as a standlone service... - Torsten Eckert
This is very good for FriendFeed as long as Facebook doesn't corrupt them. I would have preferred to see Google buy FF but I know with their focus on Wave I don't think it would have been a good fit. I like the Facebook platform, but they have done too many shady things in the past for me to trust them. - Adam Teece
all of the conversation is happening on FriendFeed and Twitter - nothing on Facebook. Think we'd scare away Facebook if everyone starts having lots of conversations there - like on Scoble's fan page? - Stuart Miniman
They can or don't have to fix FF's FB app now. - ydfeed
Ha Stuart - great point *Facebookers take cover* - Kimberle Kelly
What's next- Macy's buying Gimble's? - Thom Kennon
what do you think Robert? - courtney benson
All I can think of is now a lot of people can feel the pain the dedicated Pownce community felt, but at least you're not getting shut down, just yet. - Mike Lewis
I'm not a big facebook user, but my gut feeling is that like twitter buying summize, it will mark the end of major innovations. I hope I'm wrong. But they should totally go with the facefeed mashup name. - motownmutt
I dont see any potential for competition with twitter FB and Twitter serve different purposes as does FriendFeed - iluvblackwomen
Sorry but renaming Facebook to 'Facefeed' is utterly stupid. - Alex Knight
does making google reader more social has anything to do with this buyout??! - Gtp19
yeah this was good for facebook. bad for anyone who liked friendfeed. - Liz
FriendFeed is very good, a better way to use Twitter & etc. Knowing this, I still rarely use FF. Not going to start using Facebook more. - Nicole
Actually, this could be death for Twitter when you think about it. The people I know who are in FB are not likely to add TWO more nets to their lifestream. FriendFeed makes more sense for them. Maybe Twitter just stays as the dumb pipe it's become for many of us here. - Thom Kennon
Good for FB UI and search, questionable for the FF community and its independent spirit ... - Bo Stern
last comment 2 hours ago on FF by Paul Buchheit, FF CEO, was just " :)" #friendbook - Jacopo Gio
The main reason why I came to FF was because when I tried to treat FB the same as FF, i was talking to a wall. At least people interact here. At FB, it's all about the cheesy games/apps. - Matthew Horton from iPhone
Just like most acquisitions, it could be good and it could be bad. I trust that FriendFeed will live on as FriendFeed, only sharing their tech with Facebook. Possibly more integration between the two sites. If you were FF/FB, what would you do? - Nick Humphries
Please no. I don't like FaceBook... - Svartling
We need a Friendfeed alternative: - Marcos Marado from fftogo
Facebook must want real time soc-net search badly... - martin smith
The biggest thing here, at least within the Twitter context, is that this merger will combine 'verified' identity (in terms of Facebook user ID being slightly more 'real' than Twitter) with real time status updates. - Dan Patterson
I'm looking forward to what this brings to Facebook. I have enjoyed both networks but wondered when FriendFeed/Facebook would face-off and/or be absorbed by the other. I think FriendFeed's tech will improve the Facebook experience. - Jacob Sloan
FriendFeed + Twitter = disruptive. FriendFeed + Facebook = one more app for FB . Facebookers dont know the power of FriendFeed. I agree with : "" So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter.. - Nick Halstead "" - Rocky
Most likely scenario is Facebook assimilates the FriendFeed guys, has them work on improving Facebook newsfeed/realtime/status, and lets FriendFeed die a slow unmaintained death. - Richard Akerman
Robert, it means all the time you invested building friends lists and updates there will go to Facebook :-) - Loic Le Meur
could someone start to develop a Frienfeed clon , please ? ASAP ! - Rocky
Seems bloody terrible from this users perspective. Good for Friendfeed the company though. - Quasar
Given Facebook's past, this could be really bad. Given FriendFeed's past, this could be really good. No real way to speculate without talking to the FF crew. - xero
Robert, do you know if Facebook is going to put on limits here at FF??? Oh crikey... so much for our citizen journalism here.... Admittedly I am bummed. Uber bummed. - Arleen Boyd
EndFeed. - Alex Schleber
your blog is the most important thing you can own on the web. these sites can come and go. it's a great social point but true friends you've made here you talk outside of ff, right? - Terry O'Fee from BuddyFeed
It's a good time to sell to Facebook, cause Google Wave is imminent and is going to destroy all of Facebook, Twitter and FriendFeed. I think FriendFeed employees might even go back to Google eventually as soon as their contracts with Facebook are up. - Charbax
Robert - wow. just wow I am stunned. Sorta sad actually. I love FF innovation and don't want to see that stop !!!!! - Susan Beebe
the free ride couldn't last forever. I know it sucks that things will change, but they've got a lot more sense than Twitter has about these things.. - Terry O'Fee from BuddyFeed
You must all assimilate to the new FaceFeed - Jonathan.Rivera
If you ignore all the crappy apps and just comment and post photos, your main feed on Facebook is fundamentally a pretty similar experience to FriendFeed - people post stuff, people comment on it. That is, at-least, the way my network tends to use Facebook. The main difference is that Facebook defaults to being very closed and private while FriendFeed defaults to being very open and... more... - Edward Coffey
edward - pretty much. it's FF for the layman. remember back in the day they used to have forums too? - Terry O'Fee
friendfeed is very cliquey. you have your group of people who usually gather round for conversations. now imagine some of this friendfeed stuff in facebook. done right it will help them a lot. - Terry O'Fee from BuddyFeed
I don't think I am liking this but FB does need to add the "edit" feature like on here. - Marika Dye
FriendFeed is Facebooks Summize. It’s All About Search. - paul mooney
FF acquisition is expected. But, as a user, I would be bumned, if FF would become a feature of FB. As, I tend to use Twitter as my social network and not FB. - Vasu Srinivasan
I would love it if Facebook integrated the FriendFeed features. I would love it if Facebook had FriendFeed's flexibility with Facebook's privacy control. It sucks that the world may lose FriendFeed, but it is great the Facebook will likely get better. - Andrew
Andrew, Facebook will get better - over time. There won't be any Vulcan website meld of FB and FF overnight. - Bill Sodeman
thank god someone understands that, andrew. it's like "i liked this band better before they went to a major label!" ;) - Terry O'Fee
Bill - But we can dream, can't we? :) I mean, what I love about Facebook is that I'm interacting with my friends as my friends, not as usernames and avatars. But I hate their bookmarklet, the weird delays when I post anything, the comment system, and I hate the Photo gallery tech. I love the FriendFeed community, but would love bringing the FriendFeed technology over to Facebook even more. If only Facebook could buy Flickr next... - Andrew
as long as fb start thinking in creative commons terms... one day .. - Terry O'Fee
they are both great services I think will be a good thing - Logan Lindquist
oh NO! I don't spend much time at FB (everybody there's too busy playing stupid games, at least in my little network), and besides it's more private unlike FF. And now they've gone and bought FF? And I just joined! I guess I won't be around here for long, since FF won't... - Dennis Jernberg
I don't like it... - Harry Mahardhika
No mention of Yahoo. Totally irrelevant these days. Sad. - Scott Schnaars
This deal makes sense! Now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! - Garin Kilpatrick
One of my facebook accounts got closed up. Into this account I fed my friendfeed. And into friendfeed I fed for example my socialmedian shares, diggs, stumbles etc. - Wilhelm Bauer
Time for the next generation app. *Taps foot impatiently for Google Wave* - Karen Masullo
I don't think it's about getting Friendfeed it's self; but having the developers and the information about real-time search. - Chris Martin
*Samantha Murphy*
Boyfriend's listening to @leolaporte on our drive to Key Largo. I love Leo, but we've reached uber geek territory here.
Kim Landwehr
Not buying an Iphone
charging existing iPhone users $15 *more* per month AND $200 after less than a year ago we already paid $600 is price gouging me in my opinion. I won't be buying a new one -- upgrading is a bad deal for consumers. Apple should treat their early adopters and evangelists better than that. - Thomas Hawk
$15 more per month isn't an Apple fee. You GET more for the $15 - 3G access. Something you didn't have before. - Andru Edwards
not getting an iphone either, but price gouging is apple's mo ;) - Sam Levine
Andru, it's not worth $15 more a month plus $200 for 3G -- and it's especially insulting to early adopters who shelled out $600 for the phone *less than a year ago* that there is not some sort of recognition of this or special break. Apple should do more to take care of the people that supported them and their product at the $600 level in the past, in my opinion. - Thomas Hawk
Yeah, but it's the same with anything else. Upgrade your BlackBerry you bought last year to a BlackBerry Bold this price break other than the typical subsidy (which iPhone owners are getting on the 3G). - Andru Edwards
Andru, maybe not, but I expected more out of Apple and will certainly be within my rights to boycott the new phone until it's priced at a reasonable and fair level. And I wouldn't call the "subsidy" on the new phone "fair". While paying $199 may be less than the cost, Over the next 3 years you'll end up paying another $540 in additional phone charges -- no thanks, I'll wait. - Thomas Hawk
"early adopters and evangelists" ? Come on! :) The money is in the list and many marketers know that. It's not you or Scoble or (insert name here) that make them rich, it's the crowd. - directeur
But that's the thing - we are dealing with more than just apple with the iPhone. We are also dealing with AT&T - if Apple were running their own cell service for the iPhone (somehow), I bet we would be a little happier with pricing and such :) - Andru Edwards
directeur, and the more of the crowd that refuses to go along with this price gouging in my opinion, the better. The lesson here is simple. Be an early adopter with an Apple product and we are going to screw you. Burned once, fine, not twice though. - Thomas Hawk
I pay $15/month for unlimited 3G data for my windows mobile phone - so, no, you don't really get more for paying $30 - Alan Cheslow
Andru, Apple has unprecedented pricing control over this phone. They let AT&T jack the price up $15 a month to get a fatter subsidy from them for themselves. Nobody was holding them hostage and forcing them to do this. Pure greed on Apple's part. I'm happy to wait. AT&T's just their convenient scapegoat so they don't look like greedy pigs. Everyone already hates AT&T. - Thomas Hawk
If I chose to avoid buying any version of the iphone am I "boycotting" Apple, or did I just make a personal spending decision? "Boycott" implies some mass movement, which I don't see as likely. (Just for the record, I'm a Blackberry user, but whatever, it's a phone, I use it to make calls and for SMS, never understood the big fuss) - Jason Wehmhoener
Thomas: I'm not even U.S. I live in a poor and far country, I don't own an iPhone :) I was just making some basic notice from what I've learnt from a big copywriter "Gene Schwartz". You sure are right, but they're here for money and I'm sure they know what they're doing. - directeur
I like to use the word boycott Jason because it's stronger and I think better connotes my feelings about a company that screws over it's early adopters. Apple should recognize those people and offer them a better deal than everyone else. In my opinion. - Thomas Hawk
I have to disagree Thomas.. while I agree Apple likes to rip people off in a number of ways (see Apple Service Programs), you can't fault them for releasing a new product one year later. The analogy that has been thrown around - if I buy a TV from Samsung, then 8 months later they release a better one for lower cost, does that mean they own me anything? If you want the good stuff right away, it's going to cost you - upfront.. and down the road. - Tim Hoeck
I expense 100% of my phone bill to my company but they don't pick up the cost of the phone. So a lower price for the phone and a higher monthly charge for the phone service doesn't really hurt me. I'm still not sure if I'll go out and get the new iPhone though. I'm going to wait and hear the reviews of the Exchange push email. If that works as well as advertised then it's a no-brainer for me to buy this phone. - Mike Doeff
Tim, I don't fault them with releasing a new product one year later. I just think that a little price relief ought to come to those diehards who waited in line overnight and supported their product with both attention and $600. For me paying an additional $200 plus another $540 over the next three years for a phone that is frankly barely better is not worth it and insulting. - Thomas Hawk
AT&T is still the deal breaker for me. If Apple wants my business they can offer it on the carrier of my choice, thanks. - Eric P
Thomas: Please don't get me wront, I'm not being harsh. But what about stoping being an "early adopter" and just wait for a lower price? You are paying your own impatience. Being served first has a price too - directeur
directeur, the technological jump from my old Windows SmartPhone to the iPhone was *huge* worth paying and being an early adopter for. This next bump up to the new iPhone is much less significant. All I get is "promised" faster internet and GPS sorta. I was extremely disappointed in the last "promised" internet speeds and the bump up here isn't worth the high price. - Thomas Hawk
Matthew I don't mind the $199 phone, I'm more insulted by the $15 bump up in data charges per month. Especially when 3G goes for a lot less on other phones. It's an easier charge to hide and tuck away where nobody sees it and if they do then they can blame mean old AT&T. But it's still $540 over the next three years. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas: I understand the "user" side of you. - directeur - you got this at least, right? :) I realize where you are coming from. But I feel like Apple somewhat appreciates its users a lot more than certain (i can name them some other time) companies. It might not always be reflected in the pricing, but I feel like you know that when you get into Apple hardware. Keep an eye out during Xmas time for a break.. if you can hold out that long! :) - Tim Hoeck
Tim, I did not get that. When I tried to use the $100 store credit at the Apple Emeryville store they refused to honor it. I'd rather have not gotten the $100 credit at all than to have been given it and then have them refuse to honor it for me. - Thomas Hawk
Well, I am considering buying an iPhone, although I hate ATT, too. So how much will it cost me, really, for the phone and the plan for a year? I am a light phone user, so a minimal plan might work for me. Unfortunately, I've been told ATT & Edge are among the only plans that work in the country places I like to go a lot, like in the Mendocino forest, so I might be stuck with an ATT phone, anyway. The other benefits of the iPhone seem worth it, but I did not buy the first one. - Cathryn Hrudicka
"Customers asking about one-time fees associated with moving from a first-generation iPhone to an iPhone 3G should be told that they "will need to sign a new two-year contract at the point of purchase, but "may want to check with AT&T regarding any fees." Nice, way to bury the $15/month price jack and make AT&T look like the bad guy. - Thomas Hawk
This is pretty much a a standard with any cell phone provider/new phone. I can't just go and get a brand new phone now under my Sprint contract... unless I want to pay a huge chunk of change, or extend my contract.No offense, Thomas.. but we are all getting screwed by our cell phone providers - it isn't just with the iPhone. - Tim Hoeck
Does anyone know what exactly is included in the $45/month data plan for "business users"? Is this just a way to bill all employees on one bill or do you need this plan if you want push email, contacts, calendar via Exchange? - Mike Doeff
Robert Scoble
If Facebook had done its job right FriendFeed would never have happened.
The best thing about FriendFeed, besides that it's so much fun, is that it forces Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, etc. to make their services better. Twitter should have added hide a long time ago. Flickr should have shown you more than the last 5 contacts photos. Competition is a beautiful thing. - Thomas Hawk
Yes competition - but more so: open communication - is truly a wonderful thing. Developments here at FF and twitter with respective apps like twhirl, AlertThingy etc. just go to show how quickly last years fad can become extinct (facebook?). Of course it would be even better to find fb add something truly novel. - Alexander von Halem
Early adopters may have moved on but the herd continues to graze like cattle on the hillside at Facebook, MySpace, etc. Eventually, they will learn about other forms of social media and move there, but by then there will be something new that the fleet-footed have mooooved onto while the slow stampede contiues ruminating. - Phil Boiarski
I think it's quite possible that friendfeed has totally superior DNA. If I were to bet on facebook vs friendfeed now, I'd bet on friendfeed, even with facebook's huge headstart. Because, if Altavista would have done it's job right, Google would have never happened... - Meryn Stol
It's like a great brainstorming session where people build on each other's ideas to get to the best solution. So I think it's less about FB doing a better job, then fresh blood building upon the ideas to make the better solution. - Jane Quigley from Alert Thingy
I think it's all an evolutionary process, the good thing is anyway that the idea spreads. Facebook could save some money though and implement open standards right now. They have to in the end anyway. FB won't be a working Passport or anything like that. - Christian Scholz from twhirl
I think the "secret" force behind friendfeed's succes will be the discussion of the tech bloggers here. It looks like unintended crowdsourcing. There are so many feature (and strategy) suggestions flying by. I think some people *want* friendfeed to win, and friendfeed provides a way to let those people help them. It's gonna be a powerful combination. The only question is if they can hire good programmers fast enough to keep up. - Meryn Stol
Still get to the bottom of FriendFeed, but liking it more and more every time - David Orban
Same here @David, @Meryn I like your perspective and also your terminology 'crowdsourcing' more like crowd surfing! - Joe Dawson
For all who don't know, crowdsourcing is quite common jargon. It's what Starbucks (MyStarbucksIdea) and Dell (Ideastorm) are doing. This will beat the crap out of companies who don't. - Meryn Stol
If IBM had done its job right Microsoft would never have happened. etc - Stuart Woodward
great observation about crowdsourcing meryn, friendfeed seems very interested in hearing what people have to say - Chris Jones from twhirl
I don't use facebook anymore, I just pipe my friendfeed stream back into facebook - Mark Ramsey from twhirl
Im going to go on record here with a prediction for the future: Facebook is the greatest hyperbole the web has ever seen. I know it's worth a lot because so many investors put so much money into it, but Im expecting it to earn the title for "Most Inflated Value Ever". - Andrew Baron
@Mark Ramsey, I do the exact same thing - Chris Jones from twhirl
BTW, if George Bush had done his job right, everything would be worth at least twice as much. - Andrew Baron
tut tut ...forgive n forget was what my mum always told me. - viki saigal
I think Facebook and Friendfeed cater to different purposes. FF is great for sharing ideas while Facebook is good for maintaining profiles and contacts. - Vishy
FriendFeed brings the "NewsFeed/Mini-Feed" out of Facebook. Most of my friends are not on Facebook, so this is great! I can give people links to interesting articles/photos/discussions on FriendFeed. Signing up for Facebook overwhelms many of my friends. It's too complicated to set up an account. - Mitchell Tsai
Facebook was never useful for this. Way too heavy. - Soulhuntre from twhirl
this is exactly right. A while ago I had an idea similar to FriendFeed and Pete Cashmore told me, nah, Facebook is already doing it. As it turned out, Facebook had the chance but didn't capitalize on it. - Stan Schroeder from twhirl
i could be wrong, but I don't think Facebook is (a) losing users to FF, or (b) incapable of making this a reality for the masses - Jeremy Toeman
FriendFeed is much more about content. Content and insight defines the "friends" I pick, whereas Facebook has a greater social context. I would not follow by nieces tweets in FriendFeed, but she would be on my list of "friends" in facebook. - Ralph Poole from twhirl
If FF added better mobile access and posting a nice real client, i'd have less and less reason to use Twitter. None at all actually - Michael Gartenberg
Ralph, I agree wholehearted facebook is a different beast all together. A different beast that thankfully doesn't have a zombie game or super wall :) - Doug Brooks
Not sure I agree about Facebook. It was built for college kids, not for people looking for useful information. - Mike Reynolds
Of course Facebook and FriendFeed both serve different purposes. It's also entirely possible to use both. I think we'll have to observe what services suffer due to FriendFeed in order to see what competes with FriendFeed. - James Rishabh Mishra
not everyone is capable of flyfishing in the river of posts that is friendfeed. some folks just want to go out and get sushi with their friends, and then get back to their lives. facebook is for them. - Chris Hollander
But that would break facebook's business model - collect the data we input and sell it back to us.... - Robert O'Callaghan
friendfeed is way better and way simpler than facebook. Andit's app, poke and zombie free. Damn brilliant if you ask me. - DC Crowley
@Mike R "It was built for college kids, not for people looking for useful information." Funny! - Jack Baty
Don't think so. FF is a different site built on a different premise. Its lighter and more agile while being very powerful. Facebook is way more profile centred while FF is more like Google Reader on Steroids. - Roberto Bonini
Still at work, going to home in a bit. Have an appointment to talk to @springnet about possible collaboration.
Just left vm for you - paul terry walhus from Alert Thingy
Amber Mac
Starting net@night live on in 20 minutes. Come join us!
Rob Greenlee
Why can't Twitter be a platform for topic discussion? It seems like most discussion is meaningless and not very valuable to anyone
It's because the really interesting Tweets roll out of sight within minutes. Here on FriendFeed the most interesting stuff keeps popping up to top. - Robert Scoble
I told Twitter about your FriendFeed page. Hope that brings an interesting discussion of this Tweet and the one about long-tail blogging too. - Robert Scoble
Heh well if Twitter don't make the functionality, someone else will. Robert and I started a discussion and brought it here. Hell, if they asked for money (friendfeed), I'd prolly pay. Now, about that ZUNE.... I could give a rip about it buuuuuuut, there's this whole xbox integration thing. ;) I'll hit you up in a another channel hehe - Eric Rice
Twitter has always seemed like a tool to inspire conversation to be taken elsewhere due to the character limit & how easy it is to miss something. - Mel Francis
Twitter is the great conversation platform but it's needed personal tuning - Igor Poltavskiy
FriendFeed is filling that discussion need... I guess - Rob Greenlee
Thanks Robert for sharing my Tweet on FriendFeed... Discussion is raging now - Rob Greenlee
Friendfeed should be called "TopicTalk" - Rob Greenlee
Rex Hammock
Why Twitter Matters | BusinessWeek -
The key question today isn't what's dumb on Twitter, but instead how a service with bite-size messages topping out at 140 characters can be smart, useful, maybe even necessary. - Rex Hammock
Teacher Killed After Calling Suicide Bombings Un-Islamic -
*highlight* - Shey
Thomas Hawk
Robert Scoble
Only 7 employees? Wow. - Morton Fox
Of note is that the video is primarily of Louis Gray giving details of the crew at FriendFeed. He will be employee #8 heading up PR :) I kid....I kid.... - Mark Krynsky
Good to see Louis Gray and put a face to the name :) - Sally Church from Alert Thingy
Oh dear, I've been outed. :-) - Louis Gray
Robert Scoble interviews Louis Gray, as he introduces the FriendFeed (Oct 2007) team of 7 people. Tudor Boseman (#7) joined last week. Sanjeev, Jim, Ana Yang (stumping for Obama), Kevin Fox - Chief Designer. -- If you'd like to Digg the story, click - Mitchell Tsai
Philip "dmouse" Campbell
listening to pushmyfollow over at - they are on their 4th podcast now, good to have in the background while editing
@aqualung thanks for the well wishes, man. That's kind of you ;)
Amber Mac
Getting ready for brunch with some Citytv folk (I need eggs!) and then it's office time!
Robert Scoble
@osage it's not who follows you who defines you on Twitter. It's who you follow. So, you've just defined yourself. :-)
Loic Le Meur
@yannleroux next week we will release our video recording API. Anybody will be able to build a video comment component on any CMS with it
Philip "dmouse" Campbell
so it's like 6:29pm sat night new york, podcampnyc was amazing. really, connections formed, new people on seesmic. great.
Philip "dmouse" Campbell
tomorrow i will edit and put all podcampnyc stuff online. sorry for delay - wifi sucked (to be fair!)
Mark Krynsky
Lifestreaming 101 - Don’t Cross the Streams « // Internet Duct Tape -
A Lifestreaming primer that also discusses proper etiquette when creating your Lifestream. Some good points are made on developing posting methods to avoid duplication. - Mark Krynsky
I'm not sure if internet duct tape brought my droves from twitter to friendfeed? any one else try this ...via AlertThingy - paul terry walhus
Mark, LiFE2Front allow its users to cross their streams... And that's why it's so hard I finish SeekLiNE friendstreaming service :o( - Olivier ze kat
what i mean by "borking" is that i've tried to email photos to twitxr and flickr, and nothing is coming up. don't have my iphone cable :(
So an uncorporative iPhone is Swedish? - Mike Lewis
MySocial 24×7 Review: The Best FriendFeed App Lives in the Browser -
Eric Rice
Ok, I'm just gonna ask since people seem to be so ga-ga over it... is it me or does Adobe Air kinda suck? It feels like some kludgy turd, but everyone is 'zomg, we're building a new app in Air for <insert soylent network app name here>!!' Seriously.
It tends to hang up on my Mac when using Twhirl. It works fine until you want to quit the app, then it hangs and requires a Force Quit to get rid of it. - Douglas E. Welch
Cross-platform desktop app development with IDE support using languages people already know. 'nuff said (but I hear ya). ...via AlertThingy - Jason Wehmhoener
Oh don't get me wrong, i -get- all the nerd crap. Maybe it's the UI being so non standard it just feels lame. I haven't seen anything that makes me go OH MY GOD. - Eric Rice
well air just crashed but I'll give it a chance. Does anyone see these comments on alert thingy? ...via AlertThingy - paul terry walhus
The AIR apps I'm using doesn't give me any problems and I actually think the AIR platform is pretty smooth. ...via twhirl - Corvida
@paul yeah i think they are in yellow - Eric Rice
I think Windows users generally have higher tolerance for AIR apps than Mac users do, simply because Mac users would much rather interact with a native slick app instead. AIR apps are too Windowsy. - Aviv
as an aside, i'm more windows lately, xp and vista - Eric Rice
Air apps are useful, but the interface is a bit funky. Not very Mac, which is OK. BUt the windows bounce around, and sometimes I have to quit and restart them. It's worth the hassle, but it is a hassle. - Rob LeFebvre
@Steven - let me rephrase :) Windows app developers are pretty much free to come up with whatever UI they feel like, whereas Mac developers are expected to honor basic usability guidelines and preserve the slick user experience that Mac users demand. AIR apps are too heavy on custom heavy graphics, very Vista-like, and IMHO feel very foreign on a Mac. I'm sure this will eventually change and usability for Mac users will improve, and I hope it happens sooner than later. - Aviv
@Rob - totally agree. @Mike - right, it certainly has an upside, I just think AIR app developers need to tone it down a notch ;) and come up with some usability standards. - Aviv
I'm such a website guy. I live in my web browser. I love the fact I have a full debugging available in Firefox and I can CHANGE ANYTHING I don't like. - engtech
Heh @steve remember the bitching when itunes and safari came to windows WHAT IS THIS SHINY THING hehehe - Eric Rice
I tried three and don't use any of them. - Russellreno
"I'm Gonna Git You Spamma!" - Official Trailer -
"Your spelling? More awful." - Veronica
Robert Scoble
Microsoft's Mesh is a bigger deal than I expected. My headline? Ray Ozzie tells Google "stay off my lawn." :-)
Allen Stern
@gaberivera which planet do you prefer?
touche Allen! ...via AlertThingy - paul terry walhus
MG Siegler
Sched can organize your Web 2.0 experience -
It was awesome at SXSW ...via AlertThingy - paul terry walhus
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