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Mary Carmen
Okay, I will come out and admit it: I think a hot makeout session is often better than sex.
agreed - Marissa
*loosens tie* - Mo Kargas
*pulls pants back up* - ha3rvey (needs soup)
yep - holly
I concur! - aden
Hell to the yes. If you're a bad kisser YOU ARE DEAD TO ME. - Derrick
WORD, D! - Mary Carmen
Cause a bitch was in a bad mood this weekend after...well, he met a bad kisser. :( - Derrick
bad kissing is the worst. THE. WORST. - Mary Carmen
I like the sex plenty. but there's something very awesome about a good makeout session. And not to toot my own horn, but i've been told that I am somewhat gifted in this area. but maybe they were just being nice. but my ex girlfriend told me that I should teach a college course in making out. so i got that going for me....which is nice. - Morgan Haley
HAI MORGAN :-) - Mary Carmen
*goes to costco for chapstick* - Morgan Haley
WOOOOOOOT! - Mary Carmen
Maybe I'm selfish, I like them both equally :) - H0llywoodWh0re
sex is great....but there is something about the intensity of kissing.....omg - Mary Carmen
Yep. Although I think I like it best when the hot kissing leads to hot sex and continues during hot sex. #hotinhere - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
mos def...but i love the hot and heavy kissing/petting - Mary Carmen
hot makeouts + hot sex = win. remove either and it diminishes both. - Joe Silence is not dead
*hasn't had any hot makeouts in YEARS* :( - Joe Silence is not dead
Joe, get on that! - Mary Carmen
my one source of makeouts doesn't like to kiss (beyond a quick smooch on the lips) anymore. not since she got pregnant with our first child...in late 2004. :( - Joe Silence is not dead
I miss the days of hot makeout sessions and heavy petting. It's like as adults we just kind of zoom right past it and head for the sex as quickly as possible. I would be more than content to just make out with a guy for hours on end. It's hard to find a guy who agrees (and is also attracted to me LOL) - tinypants - Hagitha of FF
oh yeah. mos def. - Mary Carmen
i miss foreplay. - Joe Silence is not dead
I like dancing better than sex. - Liam Sullivan
for the record, i love sex too..... - Mary Carmen
i like breathing. - Joe Silence is not dead
If I could remember doing either of those things, I'd offer an opinion. But, despite my three children, I no longer have any clear recollection of either activity. - Mark Jepsen
how can it be hot if it doesn't lead to sex? - Loc
Every time this pops up in my feed, I get as far as the fifth word. - Chris Z.
lol....sorry Zamms, I don't have any plans to make that kind of announcement. - Mary Carmen
*like* - Spencer
*pines for the fjords* - Joe Silence is not dead
Mmmmmmm....kissing. - Mary Carmen
Aw... shucks. I thought after Meredith Baxter came out it'd be my lucky week! - Chris Z.
Meredith Baxter came out?!?!?! - Mary Carmen
SHE DID! It was awesome! - Chris Z.
Finally. Because the perpetual TV Mom Mullet wasn't a big enough hint. :) - tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Wow...I had no idea. Well, awesome for her! - Mary Carmen
One day I too will come out of the closet. For now, I'll have to just pretend I don't like wang... :P - tinypants - Hagitha of FF
lololololol - Mary Carmen
Actually I freaked out Haggis, Victor Ganata, and Gunny last night by saying that I'd be happy if I could have both wang and boobs on the same person. - tinypants - Hagitha of FF
... - Mo Kargas
Do moobs count, Amanda? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod
I have weirded out more people. My work here is done. :D - tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I'm w/ Sarah June but I'd be perfectly happy w/ a good makeout session. Rawr. - Ayşe E.
since when was kissing NOT considered sex? - james
Marissa
here it is dry.... what's the verdict???
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Auburn. Pretty - Shevonne
success - AyDi şeker
PS: nice clevage :P - AyDi şeker
nice decollete - ermania
oh man, didnt realize that before =/ haha oh well.... everything is covered - Marissa
nice baby :p - Vehbi KILIÇ☺
Looks good. - ronin
Looks good, more like a senior than a freshman - RAPatton from iPhone
Thumbs up! - Herb Hernandez
Nice tits - KapitanObvious
two thumbs up !! - Peter Dawson
Kapitan....C'mon, really... why say that? - Marissa
Because I'm a natural ass - KapitanObvious
well then stop being an ass... - Marissa
or continue to be an ass, just stop making comments about my chest - Marissa
well this is your thread.. you can self moderate - delete the comment that are offensive ! - Peter Dawson
lol i suppose. I dont care really... I just didnt think there was any need for it. a comment about my chest happens about every day. i just dont like the word "tits" lol cleavage is fine, boobs whatever i just dont like tits. it sounds so dirty. like just gross - Marissa
Plus, we don't use "tits" on the main page (as much). Boob, boobies or chesticles will work - €€€€€€€€
I like the color it looks good on you.. - VAL D.
Dig the color. - SAM
Everything looks very nice! - Ned Garcia-Mathews
Nice. - Anne Bouey
It's a fit - €€€€€€€€
I think I am in love. You are my new cyber FF crush....don't tell any of the other FF ladies....wait, they can read this can't they? oh damn.... - Morgan Haley
ok the wet look is here :)- http://friendfeed.com/marissa... - Peter Dawson
yer cute - Danny Minick
It looks good on you. - AJ Batac
rowr cubed - Morgan Haley
thanks all. I dont like it though - Marissa
the compliment fishing hooks are in the water....let's all take a bite! - Morgan Haley
LOVE - Mary Carmen
You look great! Without going down the 'nice tits' path, since I'm a classy guy that wouldn't say something like 'you have nice tits' over the internet. even if you did have 'nice tits', it would be inappropriate for me to comment in such a manner. so...um....I like the hair... - Morgan Haley
lol I'm not looking for compliments, i think it looks purple - Marissa
It's a good color...not purple. What was it like before? - Eoghan Sullivan from iPhone
ok, i'll be the pig that asks the question all the guys want to ask....do the carpets match the drapes? - Morgan Haley
Ain't no carpet dude, this is 2009, not the 80s - LANjackal
can I BLOCK myself for that last comment that I made? - Morgan Haley
LAN - you win! and thanks for making the fantasy that much better! - Morgan Haley
LOL reminds me of a female friend's dad who (while drunk) told her he'd like to "knock the fur" off one of her friends. She pretty much told him what I said. Unrelated: He was puking by end of the night. - LANjackal
Eoghan: before it was blonde, look at my profile pick. Lan and Morgan: I am not surprised you went there - Marissa
i'm a simple creature. and you are simply gorgeous. so i cannot be held accountable. - Morgan Haley
morgan you must be new to this marissa thing: she posts pics, dudes go nuts. everyone's thinking what we are, we're just the only ones with balls to say it :P - LANjackal from IM
The "Marissa thing" lol - Marissa
Lol - LANjackal from IM
I didnt know i had a whole thing - Marissa
LAN - she's friggen adorable. that's all I know....and I'm not one to hold back saying what i am thinking. but thanks for standing by me in solidarity. or perhaps i should say standing 'erect'? NO, that sounds a bit too friendly.... - Morgan Haley
and Marissa - you DO have the whole thing...TRUST! - Morgan Haley
HOT - Beau Liening from iPhone
*stammer* - Mo Kargas
that looks REALLY GOOOD! :D - Joe Silence is not dead
thanks, but i really dont like it - Marissa
"if at first you don't succeed, dye, dye again." ... D'oh. I came up with that just now, I think, but there's 11 previous uses of that on Google... - Andrew C
haha i'll probably keep it for a while - Marissa
Well, hello there...come around here often? - JA Castillo
Oh my. - Spencer
Can we have more #1 pictures ... :0 - johnpiercy
Hey, Purple has worked for Prince. With you being so adorable, I say you run with the purple for a while. - Morgan Haley
adorable? lol thats what you call a two year old. - Marissa
رونوشت به میریام ؛ مرتضی ؛ آقازاده این مدلی عکس بگیر =)) - Mil∂d
^^ english? - Marissa
Engrish - johnpiercy
Google says he said "Copy to Miriam; Morteza; Aghazadeh Picture This model" - Victor Ryden
haha again, ^^ english - Marissa
=)) agree with vmjr , i said to my friend ( miriam ) take photo like your pic :D - Mil∂d from IM
oh - Marissa
ok, you are a sexy beehatch that I want to bend over a couch and have my way with....is that better than 'adorable'? :-) - Morgan Haley
lol i think thats a little TOO much....find a happy medium lol =P - Marissa
LMFAO...damn, Haley!!!!!! - JA Castillo
ok....i'll work on it.. - Morgan Haley
you have a flirtatious and seductive innocence to your look that inspires me in many different ways. - Morgan Haley
lol i am very innocent, actually - Marissa
hehehehehehehehehehehehe - johnpiercy
show up to my place with a sandwich this weekend and we'll work on that problem of yours...rowr! - Morgan Haley
Sammich - johnpiercy
Collection Of RunnerRunners = دوان دوان های خارجی - Mil∂d
I like being innocent. =] makes me different from all the other hobags lol. hahahaha - Marissa
+1 for the use of "hobags" - JA Castillo
and if i wasnt, people couldnt see that "innocence" about me anymore....sets me apart lol - Marissa
lol i think i deserve +2 for the use of hobags - Marissa
you deserve more than that for picture #1....just sayin. - Morgan Haley
I can agree to that... - JA Castillo
she said "hobags " uh hoh - johnpiercy
and for some strange reason, i read it as 'fun bags'....hmmmmm - Morgan Haley
fun bags are the things they need a bra for .. - johnpiercy
Really? I find this appalling but whatever. - Derrick
Derrick, what do you find appalling? the photo itself or the hair? - Marissa
I think you, the photos, and the hair are all fine, Marissa. I'm appalled at how men, grown ass men are talking to you. You're better than that. And I thought they were better than that. - Derrick
Ohhhhhhh lol, okay. yeah the way they talk doesnt really offend me... i take it with a grain of salt. haha i was about to be really offended by you though. but thanks =] I know i'm better than the ones who aren't kidding. which is why it doesnt really bother me.... none of the things said are too terrible though - Marissa
The fact that you weren't offended is one thing, Marissa. *I* was offended. No one should be talked to like that. No one. - Derrick
thanks for saying something =] - Marissa
You take care of yourself, Marissa. Never sell yourself short, you hear me? - Derrick
I like the color on you quite a bit, Marissa. - Chieze Okoye
thanks to both of you - Marissa
میلاد:)))))) - MortezaDalil
:)))))) کوفت میلاد - Myri∂m
nice hair, u look pretty :) - Myri∂m
EricaJoy
RockOn is a music player for Android. It has a nice all-graphic UI interface making it the player of choice if you prefer browsing your music library by album art. The main features are: Cool album art navigation UI Location-aware concert info of your library's artists (uses Last.FM API). One of the most effective album art fetchers we know (uses Last.FM API + Google Image Search). - EricaJoy from Bookmarklet
I learned about this app by watching a MyTouch commercial. Just installed the pre-alpha of the newest version and omg <3. I have to see how it handles playlists. If it can handle those well, I'm completely ditching the built in Android music player. - EricaJoy
Can't wait to try this. I love the fact that they have Rasputina in their screenshots. Freaky great band. - Joel Webber
I <3 competition. Imagine if Apple let developers try and improve the iPhone's iPod experience? - Kevin Fox
Um... Kevin, Apple doesn't let developers "mess" with the iPod experience because it cannot be improved upon. #sarcasm - Adrian
AJ Batac
Awesome touchdown!
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SCORE! - Shevonne
i would be crapping myself. - Joe Silence is not dead
Joe: I'd be crapping so many bricks, you could build another story to this bunker! - Morgan Haley
"let's go guys, LET'S GO! this building is about to COLLAPSE!" :D - AJ Batac
"Bishop!" - Jeremy (cropmarks)
Wow! - Chieze Okoye
jeremy wins! - Morgan Haley
"MORGAAAN! WEE ARRE LEEEAVING!" - Joe Silence is not dead
"What's taking him so long? Let's go without him!" - AJ Batac
Wow....that's pretty awesome. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
woah - mikepk
wonder if this picture is real - AJ Batac
according to a couple of people of my acquaintance who would know, it is. - Joe Silence is not dead
100% sack... - Johnny Worthington
the majority of the time when we were doing helicopter inserts the pilots never touched the ground at all. heck we were lucky if they slowed down or got within 10 feet of the ground :) - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
looks like John Matrix's house in Commando - Toby Graham
Awesome - celloliza
Source? - Steve Lacey
wow - winckel
a badass pilot can overcome almost anything except extreme weather and catastrophic mechanical failure. those twin rotor helicopters are all getting quite elderly now. THAT'S that part that worries me most. - Joe Silence is not dead
are they playing MW2 in real? - Chris Hofmann
That is crazy cool! - John Tastad
Y'know the coolest thing? I bet the pilot the of that Chinook looks back at that picture and says, "Oh, it was nothin'. Just doin' my job." - Andrew Terry
LANjackal
My Droid experience thread
First of all, I love it :) - LANjackal from IM
Weight: solidly built, but dense. Smaller than it looks in pictures - LANjackal from IM
Physical Keyboard: I don't know what reviewers were complaining about, this is actually pretty damn good. The only part that's not so great is the optional protective hard shell makes the top row of keys a bit hard to press because it consumes the "overflow" space that your fingers would normally have - LANjackal from IM
On screen keyboard: OK, but there's not much reason to use it - LANjackal from IM
Battery life: hard to say yet - LANjackal from IM
The only major niggle I have with the Droid is that so far I can't figure out how to make it vibrate to notify me of incoming SMS when the handset is locked and the ring volume is silenced. If I don't figure that out I'm gonna miss a LOT of text messages at work, which is not good :/ - LANjackal from IM
All charged up! Despair's (my Droid's Bluetooth name) first night on the town. He's already texted one girl and called another from his Contacts, which is fully integrated with my Facebook account (profile, pics, email addresses, phone numbers). This last part is absolutely amazing. Wish us well, I'll tell you more tomorrow when we embark on a 16h bar crawl (no joke) - LANjackal
WOW. I have never set a custom ringtone this easily in my life. 1)Drag and drop song into phone from Windows Explorer (where it shows up as removable disk). 2)Go to Music App, which automagically finds ALL songs on the phone, regardless of location 3)Select track 4)Select "Set as ringtone". DONE. A-mazing, especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?) - LANjackal
"...especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?)" They would had to have fucked with normal Android functionality. Have you tried, "Ringdroid," I think it's called? -- for editing audio on the handset. Perhaps there's something better now. - Christopher A Carr
Idk about that, don't need audio editing capability - LANjackal from Android
Google Navigation: perfection. Period. Integrates with browser which integrates with calendar so I can nav my way directly to GCal event locations - LANjackal from Android
My buddy BR just picked one up himself. Verdict: fucking awesome - LANjackal from Android
Wi-Fi: works awesome. Using it @ a pool hall now - LANjackal from Android
*WANT*! - Travis Koger
Good hardware, presently. I would flash a fancier ROM. - Christopher A Carr
I'm not going to throw down money until there is a 1 GhZ device. Soon. In 1/2 years, people who have this phone are going to feel silly. - Christopher A Carr
... or we'll just get a new one? Handsets are salable dude. - LANjackal
Speed: (because Chris Carr brought it up). The Droid is plenty fast. Speed is not an issue. - LANjackal
Battery Life: Very good, but I'd bring my charger if I were going out of town for a weekend (I always do that anyway, so I don't consider than an issue) - LANjackal
Browser: Faaaast. I don't miss the pinch multitouch capability reviewers have been bemoaning the lack of, since the high resolution means that 95% of pages are readable as is in the first place, and there's a handy zoom-in/zoom-out icon that pops up at the lower right of the screen - LANjackal
UNPLEASANT SURPRISE: That charging cable that you think is a mini-USB cable? It's NOT. I don't WTF the port on the side of the Droid is, but it won't accept any other cable than the one that shipped with the device. Disappointing, but not a dealbreaker IMO - LANjackal
Fancier ROM idea: If you wanna go for it, sure. However, my phone is one of those device (like my car) that I expect to just WORK, 100% of the time. Don't wanna risk bricking it, but if you wanna do that go right ahead. - LANjackal
Contact management: This is simply the best implementation thereof you will ever come across, not only on phones but on ANY device. Full syncing of Google Contacts and your Facebook friends (all relevant fields, even job titles and pics from Facebook profiles), automatic duplicate entry handling, with search, email ... you name it. This is one thing the Droid beats everything else at. No competition. - LANjackal
Camera: It's not the best, but it'll do. Besides, cameras like those are merciful to those who aren't naturally photogenic like me. - LANjackal
Audio quality: Angelic. I know this sounds like an overstatement, but wait till you hear it. The audio on this device is just stunning. Everything else you've ever heard will sound like static afterwards in comparison - LANjackal
Does it use a regular audio connector, or a custom one like the older Android phones? - Glen Mistletoe from iPod
Regular connector - LANjackal from IM
Visual Voicemail is great, but if you have an active Wi-Fi connection it won't be able to sync. Which it tells you nicely. Perhaps Google Voice fixes that problem. Beginning to wish I had a GV account now. Oh well. Invite, anyone? - LANjackal
I still can't get over the monthly fee for visual voicemail. Sigh. - Glen Mistletoe
That's only if you have a 450min plan. The one I have has VVM rolled in... I think. Billing info isn't very clear on that, I'll see what my first new bill looks like when it comes - LANjackal from IM
VZW has the weird setup where feature prices vary BOTH by plan AND phone. For example, VZ Navigator is free on some phones but paid on others. I *think* Visual Voicemail's included with the data plan when you get a Droid - LANjackal
More on battery life: Charging takes a while (1.5h from 50% to full). Definitely enough for overnight, but people who rely on fast charge times will be in for a surprise. I'm really anal about charging, so I don't find this an issue. Less "responsible" users (read: college girls) whose phones are permanently "about to die" will run into trouble :P - LANjackal
Hmmm, not true mini-USB, slight disappointment. How loud are the ringtones and the call itself? Do you think the phone will feel weird with an extended battery? Do you experience any lag that has been reported in apps? Can't wait to have in hand next week! - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lan: You want a GV invite? Think I still have one or tww. How do you like Stanford pounding the shit out of Oregon? Wow. - Christopher A Carr
Why do you say it's not true mini-USB? That contradicts what I've been told by a Googler who's been using the phone since August. - Glen Mistletoe
It may be a smaller USB connector than the "mini" one I'm used to. Phone ringtones are LOUD. So is the call volume. I don't know any phone that doesn't feel weird with an extended battery. - LANjackal from IM
Lag: bear in mind that you're dealing with a mini-computer that happens to be able to make calls, not a phone in the traditional sense. As with a PC, the more apps you run, the more lag you may notice (1 -2s sometimes, "missed" touches). In normal operation with mission critical apps though, there is no lag. I'd STRONGLY suggest Taskiller though, as the OS never seems to really kill... more... - LANjackal from IM
Battery Life Report: During a drinking marathon today filled with heavy use of web browsing, FB app friend adding, taking (and uploading) pics, texting, email checking, calling, hopping on and off free Wi-Fi, etc. the Droid lasted *drumroooooooollllll* 11 HOURS. Terrible for a phone, but pretty good for what's essentially a pocket computer. Word to the wise: the car charging kit? Get it. An extra USB cable for charging at work is a pretty good call too - LANjackal
Correction about the USB connector. It's a micro-B one, NOT a min-B one, which is why the other cable I had wasn't working. So yes, it IS a standard USB cable. Sorry to have mislead anyone - LANjackal
Nice feature: automagical backlighting that turns on and off in response to ambient light (even when going through shadows) - LANjackal
Camera: I take back what I said about it earlier. This is pretty much the BEST party camera ever. Reviewers who complained about the pic quality were simply taking the wrong pics. No one uses smartphones to take pics of flowers idiots. They use 'em to take pics at parties. The important thing is how skin tone and color come out WITHOUT being too revealing (trust me, no one wants to see... more... - LANjackal
Battery life: so my buddy BR who got one is complaining about the battery life also. And his phone was almost always dead BEFORE the Droid, so I can only imagine what the situation is like now - LANjackal
Another niggle: No character count for text message composition - LANjackal
UPDATE: OTA update will fix the SMS character count problem (exactly how that passed internal testing, I don't know) - LANjackal
UPDATE on Visual Voicemail: I checked with VZW today and it really does cost $2.99 extra per month. Thanks to Chris' Carr, though, I installed Google Voice, so I chucked VVM. - LANjackal
Bug: Google Navigation may forget to use the speakerphone at times. I think this happens if you attempt to navigate while the phone is in portrait orientation - LANjackal
On the no character count for test messages --- doesn't it show you how many characters you have left when you get close to the 160 allowed? - Kevin Mohr
I read that it does, but so far I haven't sent anything that long so I haven't seen for myself - LANjackal
Worried about the Droid's 11h battery life? 1) Get the car charger 2) Head over to Monoprice.com and get a micro-B USB 2.0 cable for your office for all of *gasp* <$3, shipping included. Then you'll be able to charge at home, in the car, and in the office. - LANjackal
Wait, an extra fee for VVM? That's just as lame as the extra fee for VZW Navigator. - Wirehead
Not if you were on a Premium plan like I was. VZ Navigator's free then. Unfortunately, Premium plans are unavailable for the Droid, so you have to drop down to a Nationwide Select plan and then tack on a data package. This keeps the service affordable, but it means that VVM's not included. Don't really get VZ's thinking behind this one, although they probably reason that anyone who's savvy enough can get Google Voice anyway while the "average" users will lose $36/year to VVM. - LANjackal
Droid lost 3G functionality this morning. How to restore: 1) With Droid still on, remove battery for 15 seconds 2) Replace battery 3) Turn Droid on. 3G should be restored - LANjackal from IM
Guess who got his Droid set up on the office Wi-Fi and VPN today? It took all of 3 minutes, no management approval and just a verbal request to the IT guy. Turns out he got a Droid himself, so he breezed through the setup and handed it back to me. So yeah, if you were worried about joining domain networks and whatnot, don't be - the Droid is ready for work - LANjackal
OK so after a few weeks of use, several bugs have become apparent: - LANjackal
1) This probably applies to all smartphones that can run multiple apps simultaneously, but active task management is a serious necessity if you're a power user. That means manually killing apps/processes that you aren't using to prevent your phone from becoming laggy. I recommend the Task Manager app - LANjackal
2) Switching between Wi-Fi and 3G sometimes isn't seemless. The Droid will sometimes forget it's a 3G device when moving out of Wi-Fi coverage, and similarly not automatically connect to a familiar network when it's within range. - LANjackal
3) The micro-B USB 2.0 port has become really loose over numerous plug-unplug cycles. It's now possible to plug the device in and have nothing happen because the connections aren't being made (This is solved by a little jiggling). To be fair, most USB ports weren't designed for this many plugging cycles, but for a device that needs as much charging as this you'd *hope* the port was a bit sturdier - LANjackal
4) Phone ringtone volume sometimes goes out of whack. Solved by simply re-entering the relevant menu, which seems to "remind" the handset what level it should be at - LANjackal
5) Plugging the phone into an HP docking station before booting the laptop will cause the laptop to fail to boot. I'm not sure whose fault this is. - LANjackal
And now for the good news: - LANjackal
1) Contrary to what the SF Gate guy said in that article I'm too lazy to link to, Google Navigate IS SAFE to use in the boonies. Verizon's 3G coverage is beyond amazing, I traveled through some of the most sparsely populated regions in the country today with no problems. The phone lost the GPS signal a few times (regained within seconds) but never lost 3G coverage - LANjackal
Thomas Hawk
@ironicsans haven't heard back yet regarding my FOIA request. Obama's not been the most transparent president.
I don't understand why anybody ever believed he would be. His past says it all. - Spencer
Sounds like it's time to amp up the pressure - Davis Freeberg
Chris Jones
Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
I will be getting a Mac delivered to my home sometime next week. SQUEEE!
pictures or it didn't happen - RAPatton
Oh, there will be pictures! Some might not be safe for work though. LOL - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Macpr0n FTW - Glen Mistletoe
If they aren't safe for work, you know how to DM me - RAPatton
Good point! ;-) - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
I'm in for one! :D - Spencer
Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Conger Eel Picture, Conger Eel Desktop Wallpaper, Free Wallpapers, Download, Photography - National Geographic - http://photography.nationalgeo...
Conger Eel Picture, Conger Eel Desktop Wallpaper, Free Wallpapers, Download, Photography - National Geographic
cool - echostreamer
Eric Logan
Civilian trials for al Qaeda war criminals "A Historically Bad Decision" - http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main...
Civilian trials for al Qaeda war criminals "A Historically Bad Decision"
Edwin Meese III, the Ronald Reagan Distinguished Fellow in Public Policy and Chairman of the Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at The Heritage Foundation as well as the United States Attorney General between 1985 and 1988 released the following statement yesterday on Holder’s unprecedented decision: It is clear that foreign terrorists and terrorist groups have committed acts of war against the United States, and that our national security requires that we respond accordingly. This means that President Bush’s prudent actions and the military response which he led should continue as our answer to these attacks. Congress overwhelmingly reaffirmed their commitment to military commissions in 2006, which have historically been the way that we respond to acts of war. To abandon our two centuries of tradition and to substitute some new civilian procedure as a response to such attacks endangers the security of our country and our national interest. It was a tragic mistake to decide to... more... - Eric Logan from Bookmarklet
pitlord
The Energizer Health Care Bill ....it keeps growingand gro and growing and growing..... 11/4/2009 - squareonemedia on Blog Talk Radio #killbill - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/squareo...
The Energizer Health Care Bill ....it keeps growingand gro and growing and growing..... 11/4/2009 - squareonemedia on Blog Talk Radio
#killbill
get in here! live in 20 minutes #killbill - pitlord from Bookmarklet
eeeeyeah, the bill is growing, and that is (of course) a problem. not, however, as big a problem comparatively as the rate by which insurance is hiking their profits & exec salaries at the expense of recipients - both financially and to the detriment of their health. killbill? no effing way, brah...but you have fun. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Get your facts straight, insurance companies operate on a very small profit margin. They make even less money than railroads, cleaning product manufacturers and restaurants! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_otfwl2... - pitlord
I once worked for an oil company that never turned a profit, funny how that works, Fact is that insurance companies make outrageous profits, they just know how to shield it. - Rene Wirtz
revenue does not always equal profit - pitlord
There we agree. But, I also know how to make a big profit "disappear", so it looks like the margins are really slim and this typically how companies that generate huge amounts of profits (oil ompanies, insurance companies, banks, investment banks, pharmaceutics) operate. Everyone knows that. If you really believe that insruance companies really operate on a small margin you are delusional. - Rene Wirtz
The same accounting tricks are available to every industry. That doesn't change the insurance businesses' ranking on the list. - pitlord
David, I used to work inside an HMO...I don't need to read any blog to know what the profit margins are. Nor am I remotely interested in what you're calling "facts" here - having experienced the reality first-hand. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Further, you're also forgetting another little lovely item known casually as monopoly. One facet of health care reform is breaking up the only industry that is exempt from anti-trust laws. We're not aiming to put private insurance companies out of business. The idea on that count is to level the playing field. It's yet another facet of this discussion where your "facts" are skewed. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Happy listening anyway. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
By all means, share with us your inside information about the insurance business. The problem is that a private company, like an insurance company, has a legal fiduciary duty to make a profit. They have no reason to hide their profit margins, if they are making money they crow about it from the highest rooftops to attract more investors. So show us how and why they are hiding profits from their investors. - pitlord
As for a monopoly. How can any of them have a monopoly when they aren't even allowed to operate accross state lines? In fact, how can their be a "monopoly" when we refer to them in the plural? Doesn't that imply there is more than one of them? If you are so against a monopoly how would you feel about the government operated monopoly like the one Obama and his supporters are trying to... more... - pitlord
What you completely ignore, David, are the very problems with your assertions that you're trying to tout as positive facets. Yes, all businesses (including insurance companies) have a "duty" to make a profit. Nobody with any understanding of the nature of business would argue that point - although, some might question the ethics and morals of turning a profit at the expense of client... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Operating across state lines. Okay...I'm not sure if you're aware of *why* insurance companies cannot operate across state lines, and I don't know if you've ever tried to contact *your* state's insurance commissioner when you've ever had problems with your coverage. Only you can answer that question. Each state has certain regulatory compliance issues that govern who *beneficiaries* can... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
If even a fraction of the "denial of care," resulting in death and misery, that you constantly claim happened it would be front page news. Show me "tripling and quadrupling premiums" because nobody has even suggested that's the case. How convenient for you to claim a criminal conspiracy to rob people of their premiums without paying for services and then say you won't reveal your... more... - pitlord
Now your argument is that you didn't really mean "monopoly" and that I "ignored" their exemption from anti-trust laws. You didn't read my comment because I specifically said it was a great idea to hold them to anti-trust laws. The only problem is they aren't violating any. Again you make false claims that people are "dying and losing coverage" with absolutely nothing to support your... more... - pitlord
Preventing this bill to pass will lead to disaster. Don't like it, move! You and your vile ilk are holding the USA back, back in the 1800s. So, David C Cooper, what are you holding a PhD in? Or any degree? I told you before, I think you need to ask your education money back, you are the prime example of someone uneducated and misinformed. - Rene Wirtz
Anybody who thinks the government would efficiently and wisely manage your healthcare is absolutely crazy. Regardless, government healthcare is un-Constitutional. - Spencer
Inserting religious beliefs into law is unconstitutional! Separation of state in church, look it up, it's in there! - Rene Wirtz
Rene, you got that backwards the government is not allowed to impose political beliefs on religious institutions. Religious belief is inherent in the law. Otherwise, the founders would never have recognized The Divine Creator in our founding documents you dumbass. - pitlord
Pitlord, you may be right, but you don't help anything with the whole "dumbass" comment. Rene, "vile ilk" makes you sound like a sore winner to me. For the majority of my voting life, I have registered as a Republican. Right now, the law-making "ball" is so entirely in your court, it astounds me that your "ilk" waste time worrying about what my "ilk" even think, as you don't need a single Conservative or Republican to go along with you in order to get anything your hearts' desire passed as law right now. - midnightgolfer
No worries. midnightgolfer, David and I have agreed to dislike each other with a passion. And pitlord is not right, he is interpreting the constitution to his needs. And I'm not gonna point it out either, because he will deny it anyway and twist my words, He knows this too. - Rene Wirtz
"is interpreting the constitution to his needs" -- My wife's psychiatrist calls that "projecting" and I'm used to ignoring it, while at the same time not accepting it or "enabling" it. - midnightgolfer
I have never attacked you on a personal level, and until now you've reciprocated, but this? *rolls eyes* David, how about this. You believe whatever you choose. My doctoral, by the way, isn't a PhD - it's a DM, and quite frankly, I already came out and said that you could interpret my statement however you chose - which you did, predictably. If you think I give a rat's ass about YOUR... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Midnightgolfer you have a good point. I recant comparing Rene to a silent pack animal. Also, I reaffirm my arguments against the radical Marxist agenda which is being supported by the arguments of Denise and Rene. - pitlord
Rene nobody has to twist your words, you do a fine job of presenting a perverted distortion of reality all by yourself. - pitlord
Denise, the fact that you veil your insults with sarcasm and innuendo doesn't make them any less personal. Think what you want, the fact remains that the American people are revolting against the disastrous healthcare legislation that this nightmarish Obama administration is trying to foist on the country. - pitlord
David, I attack your *weak arguments* - I have never attacked YOU as an individual - either your education, your career, your whatever that is personal. Just your words. In fact, if we really want to go all the way back and look at the dialogue, yes, I'll cop to sarcasm. So the fuck what? You're no innocent patron saint on that count either. However, insulting? No. Like I said. Fuck... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Denise, I thoroughly trounced your "attack" on my arguments as invalid. Your claims of insurance company monopolies and profits were refuted and debunked. I provided references to outside sources to back up my arguments. How did you respond? You implied that you have inside information that you were unwilling to share for fear that it might hurt your job opportunities in the future. I... more... - pitlord
I owe YOU no answers, for you do not pay my salary. If (and that is a big if) I choose to disclose my experiences, it won't be to YOU. Go to hell, you worthless waste of oxygen. There, is that insulting enough for you? - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I call delusional worthless piece of shit? Did I win anything? OK, back to my regular schedule of baby eating ... - Rene Wirtz
A brand new shiny paperclip, Rene...lol. That's about all this thread and its originator is worth anyway. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
*stares at the awesomeness of shiny paperclip* - Rene Wirtz
There you go, attacking my "arguments" again. If by "arguments" you mean unalienable rights as endowed by our Creator. >.> - pitlord
You're the one into creationism, moron. The level of stupidity required to actually believe that garbage is unfathomable. Go to donkeylove.com - try to figure out which you are, David...the attention whore or the ignorant ass. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@David: Our creator? Please don't force your dog onto me, I find that unbelievably offensive. Whatever you believe you can do so in the privacy of your own house, family, circle of friends, temple dwellers, etc, but don't bore me with that. - Rene Wirtz
That's the great thing about this country. Idiots like you don't get to tell people like me how to think or what to say. If I want to thank G-d for making me a free man in a free country it is my G-d given right and there isn't a damn thing you can do to stop me. If you don't like it there are plenty of g-dless, radical, left-wing countries that would be happy to have you (or maybe not so happy). I hear liberals rave about Cuba. That's a place you might want to consider. >< - pitlord
But, maybe you're right. Maybe, you aren't one of G-d's creations. In fact, it's more likely that you evolved from some accumulation of matter in the corner of a glue factory. - pitlord
You absolutely have the right to believe what you choose. You do not have the right to encroach on others' rights just because they don't share those beliefs. And others have the right to mock you for your stupidity as much as they choose - because mocking is not telling you what to think. Creationism as you define it is a regurgitation of other, far older myths. So before you call anyone else an idiot, maybe you might want to consider that you're a case of de-evolution. Generally the result of inbreeding. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
How many Tea Party members were able to rally against Fed GOV because RETIRED receiving Social Security and Medicare? Hypoctes or just plain dumb? - WarLord
*sniffs glue* Ah, I can see clearly now. - Rene Wirtz
*LOL* @Denise. You are correct: if one claims to be dog's creation, one can only be if there was inbreeding. Or, otherwise, one member has peed outside the pot and everyone is contaminated with imperfection. Flawless logic. Then again, David doesn't strike me as the kind of person who can think logically. Frankly, I don't think he thinks at all, he's just a spambot. - Rene Wirtz
You are obviously viewing the story of creation from a western cultural perspective. There is nothing "mythological" nor incestuous about G-d's creating the universe. But, I have more pressing matters than debating the origin of the universe with you. Like groceries. - pitlord
The last thing Cuba needs is more people like that. I personally extend an invitation for them to come over here to Spain, which is still relatively open-border. Based solely on what I've read here, they'd really fit in well, among certain circles, over here. If my sofa-bed, and my other spare bed weren't already occupied by my good-for-nothing inlaws, I'd even let them stay with me. As... more... - midnightgolfer
Oh good, David, you have an internet lover! Why don't you guys meet in the middle? - Rene Wirtz
@midnightgolfer: please stay in Spain, there's enough fringers in the US. - Rene Wirtz
Oh the irony of misusing the word "fringe" Conservatism is a majority, and growing. A fringe is the small edge of something larger. But don't worry, I'll wait til you leave, or are made irrelevant. But just in case there's any confusion, I still vote every chance I get, both by absentee in the U.S. and every time it's legal for me to do so in Spain and Europe. - midnightgolfer
What you're describing, midnightgolfer, is not conservatism in any true sense. Intelligent conservatism died a long time ago. What you're describing is neoconservatism, which is one of the most dangerous movements in this country - and if you're a part of it, then you will share your burden of blame in the undoing of your "claimed" party. Period. Wake up and smell the stupid. People like you are definitely trying to take this country back...to some place pre-WWI era. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
What exactly did I describe? other than to state that Dem's and "liberals" have all they need right now to pass any bill into law that they'd like, no matter what opposition would like? Oh, and to show displeasure at ad hominem attacks? - midnightgolfer
*rolls eyes* "Conservatism is a majority and growing" is what you said specifically. That is patently false. Genuine conservatism still exists in some individuals, but as a "group" it is dead. What is growing is the teabaggers. That's all. Further, Dems & "liberals" are not synonymous - anymore than Reps and "conservatives". If you're American, then you wouldn't know what a real liberal was if one came up and slapped you across the face. It's nothing to do with party. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
This is why I put "liberal" in quotes, and you are mistaken, in the U.S. the percentage of individuals who self-identify as "Conservative" is a majority, and it is an increasing percentage. - midnightgolfer
LOL - where do you get this from...? Faux News? Pffft. Oh, and the ad hominem is not directed at you, midnightgolfer. Besides, if we're using the terms "liberal" and "conservative" - from a distinct perspective (and you being in Europe should be aware of this), there is NO left in this country comparatively. But, and this is a BIG but, when we're talking about "self-identification", I... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
There most certainly is a Left in the U.S., albeit statistically small, even when compared to Europe's average left-to-right position. You ask, "Where do I get this from?" -- The recent Virginia and New Jersey election results - Pffft. - midnightgolfer
The recent Virginia and NJ election results tell you what then? That people are pissed off at incumbents? No...the voices are telling you what you think you want to hear? No...that people are dissatisfied with Obama? What exactly...? Yesterday's results can be interpreted 101 different ways. The "left" here is still comparatively right-leaning when we're drawing comparisons over the pond, man. Am I correct in guessing you're either in the military or an American subcontractor in Spain? - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Okay, so you interpret it the way you wish, and I will interpret it the way I wish, and we'll both act on our own interpretations, and stop wasting time arguing about differences of opinion, and move forward. Thanks for the momentary fun. - midnightgolfer
If my guess is correct, then you're surrounded by like-minded folks with whom you work...and it bubbles into a nice little echo chamber to what you want to interpret it. That's all. ;) And acting on interpretations simply means voting the way our respective consciences dictate -- which is perfectly fine, no matter how we disagree. Given the time there, let go of the momentary fun and get some rest. :) - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
To be totally honest, I work graveyard, and am on a break, that went a little long ;-) I truly wish you were right about being surrounded by like-minded folk. I am surrounded by overly-sensitive people I have to make a conscious effort not to offend with my opinions, and online is one of the only places I get to speak so openly, without immediate confrontation. Also, I'm better at defending myself in English than in Spanish. - midnightgolfer
You said, "Again you make false claims that people are "dying and losing coverage" with absolutely nothing to support your claims" -- coming back to that thought since you actually are stupid enough to believe you "trounced" my arguments. The association between death and lack of health coverage is firmly established - and here is a very recent article about that-... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Wow, I'm flattered that you created a whole blog post for me. Too bad your just totally wrong. It's funny which part of the definitions for "monopoly" you chose to include in your little post. Here's the full definition from your first source: "A situation in which a single company owns all or nearly all of the market for a given type of product or service. This would happen in the case... more... - pitlord
Another note on lack of insurance, the studies you liberals cite to show that the "uninsured" are dying are completely false and based on fake numbers. http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/does-la... - pitlord
Regardless of your personal opinions about insurance, the government does not have the authority to force us to purchase health insurance. http://www.cnsnews.com/news... - pitlord
But let me highlight a few of your more intelligent comments: "You like that because you're a "proud American" and are too stupid to realize that their methodology operates AGAINST free market (capitalistic) principles." Denise Wirtz "Good enough for you, asshole?" Denise Wirtz "Every one of the people defending their behavior, as far as I'm concerned, is a walking, breathing,... more... - pitlord
*laughing merrily* Leave it to a moron like you to mix and match two different blog entries to try to justify yourself without actually addressing any of the issues of either directly. "Run Forest Run" seems to be typical of you. You got *one* thing right, though...where you just said "...did NOT prevent the patient from obtaining the procedure." Nothing stopped those patients from... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I'm glad you can come up with such creative names for me, "moron" is sooooo original. Obviously you didn't bother to look at the links I posted which debunk your facetious claims that anybody is dying from "underinsurance." Where are all the starving Americans who've been thrown to the gutter because they couldn't afford a medical procedure? I'm sure your employers and their clients are... more... - pitlord
You're not worthy of "creative" names, David. Moron will do just fine. And you have a VERY short memory. I provided you with a link AGES ago regarding a first-hand account -- but since you've seen fit to pretend that I never gave you that info, here you go. Again. http://www.progressivefox.com/... Golly, I guess the lady in there who is referring to the methods that doctors and... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I've tolerated you for about as long as I care to. You & I will never have a reasonable discussion, though not for my lack of trying to. You're not worth anyone's attempt at reasonable discussion...and I am just finished with you. You are...as of this post...blocked. You're too stupid to realize what a fucking tool you are, and I don't have the patience to deal with your ignorance on a... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
David C Cooper (aka pitlord): do yourself a favor and emigrate to Isreal, preferrably Jerusalem, inner city, you fucking shameless piece of shit excuse for a human being. You are the prime example of why both abortion is a really good idea. In fact, your father should have shot his load on the radiator, so at least everything would have ended with a sizzle-pop. You try to backstab your... more... - Rene Wirtz
If you are willing to throw them away then you don't deserve the freedoms and liberties that this country has to offer. Why would you want to stay unless you just want to destroy it? I'll just say that your link does nothing to support your case for public health care. It is clear to anyone paying attention that Obamacare would result in the same exact situation with government... more... - pitlord
Another brilliant argument from Rene Wirtz! Your wife's debate tactics are severely lacking in credibility thanks to her emotional responses and ad hominem attacks. Funny, the same can be said of her husband. LOL and you two call me a moron? >.> - pitlord
Because you are one. It's plain for everyone to see. And your debate tacticsare overshadowed by my wife's, thank you very much, but again, you won't know a good debate if it kicked you in the head. Now kindly go fuck yourself! - Rene Wirtz
Besides, I don't mind being wrong, I am wrong quite often and I have no compunction about saying so, You on the other hand, are holier than the pope, claiming to have dog, thus the truth by your side. This makes you an ignorant fool, a waste of space. And it is scared, petty, small-minded people like you who are destroying the US, not the other way around. But I guess, since you are a... more... - Rene Wirtz
Oh, and blocked. Enjoy life in hell. - Rene Wirtz
LOL - pitlord
IHealth Care is broken badly the for profit model is unsustainable at any price but it don't matter we'll all be on Medicare in 5 years or less... - WarLord
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Our Republic is passing from history. It's now up to the Senate to preserve it -- or else administer the last rights. - Russ Jackson
William Harryman
Christian Serratos Naked: 'Twilight' Star Nude In PETA Ad (PHOTO) - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009...
Christian Serratos Naked: 'Twilight' Star Nude In PETA Ad (PHOTO)
"Twilight' starlet Christian Serratos, 19, is the latest celeb to take her clothes off for PETA. Her TV credits include squeaky-clean shows like 'Hannah Montana,' 'Zoey 101' and '7th Heaven.' Christian's naked ad debuts in the walk-up to her new movie. 'The Twilight Saga: New Moon' opens November 20." - William Harryman from Bookmarklet
I hate PETA, but they sure get a lot of pretty women to take their clothes off - William Harryman
why do you *hate* PETA? - anna sauce
Because he likes veal? - Cristo
because they have a pseudo-science arm that uses lies and propaganda to scare people into not eating meat - and because they tend to be hypocrites, like holding stock in YUM, a holding company for many fast food chains they protest against - they do some good things to protect animals, but they also are full of shit a lot of times - William Harryman
My guess is that meat-eaters and vegetarians will all die. - Cristo
PETA is just a bunch of BS. Hate as well. - Fulaan, inna Hebel
Another girl takes her clothes off. WHOOPTIE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Akiva Moskovitz
"convince people to not eat meat" I've never heard of someone not eating meat because of PETA. PETA did an amazing campaign raising awareness regarding fast food chains and the chicken raising industry, which resulted in increased standards. They targeted McDonalds, and therefore got a lot of visibility. It's ironic to me that you like the women photographed, but not their views- they weren't convinced by PETA, they were animal-rights fans to begin with. - anna sauce
anna, does it really surprise you that men would like women nude, but not agree with all of their views? E.g. "No, that centerfold doesn't turn me on. I read that she has a pitbull, and I can't stand those dogs." - Cristo
Cristo, I can dream, can't I? So for a bit of reversal- if an amazingly hot guy was dancing in front of me, but he was some right-wing nutjob, would I be turned on? Maybe? I'm not above that, just saying, and I *certainly* wouldn't blog about it. I'd be a wee bit embarrassed. - anna sauce
LIKE the pic, screw PETA - Spencer
I don't know if I'd blog about it, but I would comment on FriendFeed if I was in the mood. I don't see the problem with separating physical and emotional attraction. - Cristo
But I have to say Harryman, despite hating PETA, is playing into their hands. They're exactly the demographic. Not crunchy feminist 30-something SF residents like me, no, but the men out there who have never given to PETA, and now they may if there's some hope of a calendar coming that doesn't have SportsIllustrated SwimSuit edition plastered over the cover and their wives can look at them lovingly and say, "You gave to PETA? Aw...." - anna sauce
Also, she may be nude, but she's not naked. Not with her covering herself up and turning sideways. :) - Cristo
"I've never heard of someone not eating meat because of PETA" - seriously? that is a major portion of their agenda - AND, I have a blog for serious stuff, and this ain't it - she's pretty, but PETA is full of crap half the time, so this just gave me an opportunity to say "PETA is full of crap half the time", which needs to be said from time to time - you (anna sauce) are making some serious assumptions about my character based on one posting - William Harryman
"I hate PETA" ... that's a little different then "PETA is full of crap half the time," which I do agree with. Ha. - anna sauce
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Photographer detained for taking photos of the LA subway system | Los Angeles Metblogs - http://la.metblogs.com/2009...
"Except that there is no rule prohibiting public photography in Los Angeles subway systems. And any detainment would require a reasonable suspicion of the subject having committed a crime… which may have occurred, but the only unusual activity the Sheriff ever cites is Discarted’s act of taking photos. After handcuffing Discarted, the sheriff doing most of the talking, Officer Richard Gylfie, is heard threating threatening to put him the FBI’s “hit list” and will be flagged and detained before boarding planes, trains, or other forms of transportation where an ID is checked. And why? Apparently for not shivering in fear to Gylfie’s demands to tell him why he’s taking photos… or maybe I’m missing something." - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet
oh boy. I live next to Manhattan Bridge - and it's an active project of mine. Never had a problem taking photos of it until 9/11. These days I get into some very annoying debates with officials the moment I put my tripod on the ground. - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
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Akiva Moskovitz
This is why console gamers can go SAF: you're ruining real PC games. Before you console juggalos came along, we never had to 'unlock' new areas or earn 'achievements'. Now PC games are bottlenecked by your console's weak hardware specs and game control is dumbed down to suit your limited, knobby, little controllers.
What's worse is that game play ITSELF is dumbed down to meet the YouTube audience that tends to buy consoles for gaming over PCs. - Akiva Moskovitz
Can't afford to PC game. - Amber, Random Time Lord
Another complaint: console gamers don't care about immersion so console games don't bother which is why console UIs are always so 'game-y'. Dragon Age is really fun but the UI might as well be the front panel of a microwave for how evocative and related it is to the setting of the game itself. - Akiva Moskovitz
@Amber, you can pretty much just drop a $150 nvidia or ATI card in any PC with a PCI-express slot and enough RAM, done deal. cheaper than a console since you already have the PC - and if you don't mind lower resolutions or visual quality you could go down to $75 instead - mjc
WASD going on here? - Josh Haley
Preach it, Akiva. I hate console gaming. - Jason Huebel from Android
Don't already have the PC to do that. Haven't you heard my crappy computer rants already? It was just cheaper to get a hold of the console. - Amber, Random Time Lord
Hahahaha...This rant is so funny. Microsoft comes up with one of the best ideas in gaming in a long time (unified achievements) and you pooh pooh it? Hilarious...Why not diss the steering wheel while you are at it. PC vs console gaming is a no-brainer for me...can't do PC gaming on my 55" TV. - Alex Scoble
I think the controls are fine. You can use mouse-only or a combo of keyboard/mouse. The interface is MMORPG-like so blame WoW for that. Some games on PC's aren't as immersive due to the controls. There's no equivalent controls on the PC to moving the sticks to change the pace of running/walking/sneaking. - Rodfather
I would have to disagree. I hate PC gaming, I just can't use the controls on a keyboard. I'm an old Nintendo-Atari-Sega guy. Last game I played on a PC was a DOS game called Prince of Persia. It just isn't the same without my Playstation 3 and my 47 inch HD television. - Faraz Mullick
Alex, why can't you do PC gaming on your 55" TV? My ancient 42" Sceptre 1080P TV accepts VGA... been gaming on it for 4 years now. I prefer my 22" IPN panel Del monitor to it though. - Adrian
Home theater PCs are either expensive or underpowered...You can't put a regular PC in a home theater...they are way too loud. And personally, I find console gaming to be much more seemless, and way more immersive...oh and Xbox 360 Achievements are awesomesauce. In short, I completely disagree with Akiva. - Alex Scoble
I loved gaming on a PC (keyboard + mouse FTW) but I could never justify the costs keeping up with the hardware. I feel like I get my money's worth out of my PS3 (and Xbox 1) before that. - Matt Mastracci
I do agree somewhat console gaming ruining PC gaming. The interface for Fallout 3 PC was basically the same as the console. Such a pain. - Rodfather
LOL, I still use the all-aluminum Lian Li case I've had for 6 years or so. I've managed to stuff a Core i7 into it. It's fairly quiet but the aluminum cases are not as quiet as a dedicated HTPC case. Frankly doesn't bother me. Mouse / keyboard is still the control paradigm to beat (except in racing / flying / platform games of course). - Adrian
Consoles should natively support keyboard/mouse gaming for every game. If you can't beat that with a controller, buy a keyboard and mouse. ;) - Matt Mastracci
I agree with Matt, I can't justify regular hardware upgrades any more. Not to mention having to deal with windows, which i hate. It wasn't that long ago that was on the console-bashing bandwagon, but the games and consoles have come a LONG way. - dthree
Mass Effect would have been a much better game had it been designed ground up for the PC. - Adrian
I've never really been a fan of BioWare RPG's. I still think the best were PC RPG's with an isometric view. Fallout 1&2 for example. Dragon Age seems ok so far. - Rodfather
*fistbump Akiva* You tell 'em mate - Mo Kargas
I play both console games and PC games, though I'm not really a big gamer. I don't really feel like game play is dumbed down or like I'm an idiot for playing console games, but whatever. I'm really commenting to say that I play PC games on my television all the time. In fact, my PC is broken so everything I do on a PC I do on the 'family' one hooked up to the television. We have an I7... more... - joey
It bothers me that media PCs or consoles are in the living room. I would have thought we'd all be using rack-mounted hardware in media closets by now. :( It sucks to have piles of boxes hooked up to a TV with spaghetti wires all over the place. Clearly some companies are missing opportunities. Console controls should work equally well with PCs, and they should all be RF. - Cristo
Cristo, you're welcome to come set up a media closet for me :) - joey
joey, I would do it. Unfortunately it's still really, really hard. I'm still trying to figure it all out. - Cristo
To this day can't play any sort of first person shooter on the consoles. The controls are just no match compared to keyboard / mouse combo that I've had years upon years of experience on. That's sadly all I can contribute to this discussion. - Jon, the Beartato of FF
Oh, PC gaming. How I remember the love that I felt for you when realising that even though I was well above "minimum spec", the new game still ran like a turd in treacle. The discovery that I would need to update pretty much everything in order to just support the graphics card and RAM upgrades just made things even sweeter. And -oh!- all those commands to remember! Thank $DEITY I have... more... - Andy Bold
Alex, your argument is voided by your use of the word 'awesomesauce'. - Akiva Moskovitz from BuddyFeed
I don't hate consoles, but they hold nothing to the graphics of a PC. ;) - Spencer
Also, I've yet to see any proper refutation of my points. The fact that not one of you has refuted being called a juggalo is seriously concerning. - Akiva Moskovitz from BuddyFeed
i cant afford buying the best of the best when it comes to pcs. sure, the console systems are not as flashy but i still enjoy them for what they are, mind you, i have a soft spot for old SNES games, so...... mind you i play WoW . those kinda games are hard to replicate on a console machine. BUT. WoW doesnt require HUUUGEE processing power to play. i think that's the trick with pc games. make more games that don't require lots of hardware to enjoy. remember the good ol fun days of the lucasarts adventures?? - Terry O'Fee
Hey, did you guys have fun modding Fallout 3? Oh, wait, you can't! You're on a console. Oops, sorry! - Akiva Moskovitz from BuddyFeed
and?? :P - Terry O'Fee
mind u, im not much of a fan of these ipod touch/iphone versions of games coming out these days. playing doom with a touchscreen just looks silly :P - Terry O'Fee
I game to enjoy myself. PC gaming is a chore - you have to build a PC, maintain it, patch it, defrag it, buy new hardware for it, run anti-malware on it, etc. Consoles are simple: put a disc in, and enjoy playing a game. I don't want to mod, I don't want to brag about headshots, I certainly don't want to play online with a bunch of assholes. I just want to play a game. Consoles are WAY better at this simplified experience. - Sparky
I don't know what SAF means. - Glen Mistletoe from iPod
Glen, suck a f&^$. - Rochelle
How did this not pull on my Favorite's best of day. This is like best of millenium - Matthew DeVries
This post has a lot of acronyms. - Rochelle
Sparky, are you still living in 1999? I don't have to maintain a PC, patch it, defrag it, or run anti-malware on it. I just boot up, slip the disc in, and go. It's zero maintenance, zero fuss. Perhaps this could be because it's a MacPro and I do nothing on the PC side except play games but even when before I bought the MacPro, I haven't had a need to perform serious maintenance or even... more... - Akiva Moskovitz
The absence of Madden on the PC is what finally pushed me over the edge to pick up an Xbox. It sorta seems to me like PC and console are *almost* complementary: I can't for the life of me play an FPS with a controller, but there are all kinds of "family"/kids games I've never think of buying on a PC, and live head-to-head sports on the big screen TV just isn't very PC friendly. I'll take both, thanks. :-) - Ken Sheppardson
I'll respectfully disagree; I don't miss the "buy a new game/upgrade your hardware" cycle -since purchasing my Xbox360, I haven't had to purchase and install the latest, greatest video card, or add more memory to my console in order to enjoy the latest, greatest games. Personally, I think Achievements are a nice way to mark and track progress through a game, and I admit, I've become addicted to hearing the "Achievement Unlocked" sound as I'm playing through a game. - Andrew Terry
Achievements are the Satan of video gaming. It made me quit WoW. I couldn't walk anywhere or open any door without fucking alarms and popups and crazy shit "YOU HAVE OPENED YOUR 5,406 DOOR?! - Matthew DeVries
Akiva - you just made a point by stating that you use a Mac Pro for gaming. That's a $3000 machine vs. a $200 Xbox 360. It's a machine you have to deal with, install, run updates on, etc. - Sparky
You all know this topic is a religious war, no one wins, and you leave scorched earth in your wake? Just checkin'. - Ed Millard
I'm a life long PC gamer, and I love them but they are pretty flawed. The constant push for more gear is certainly a flaw, also leads to rich gamer advantage. The push for stunning visuals is bad too and seems to afflict all platforms. They end up shorting game play, and driving up game costs. I still love and play ugly Battlefield2 but the cheats you have on PC's seriously damage it. I have a PS3 IBM gave me with Madden 2010 but I just don't like. Football is not a game designed for computers. - Ed Millard
I could almost see playing football on a computer if you had 22 people playing. It would probably be chaos in practice though. If you actually had a team of 11 people who practiced and worked together and played competitively against other teams like that it might be really interesting. - Ed Millard
I play with consoles these days mostly, but I have nothing against PC gaming when the hardware is up to date. I wouldn't blame the consoles for dumbing down the games. I guess the reason is money: console games aren't pirated as much so releasing/optimizing for them first makes sense business-wise. About achievements: if they are reasonable, they encourage me to play more. For example, they motivated me to play more Fallout 3 than I otherwise would have played. - Jemm from fftogo
Sparky, well, I failed to mention the fact that I have a gaming PC here that I built out several years ago that would trounce my MacPro in gaming. Only reason why I use the MacPro for gaming at all is because I want to play on my 24" LED Cinema Display rather than my years-old 22" Samsung LCD. And that old machine required no maintenance at all: again, the days of XP and FAT are gone;... more... - Akiva Moskovitz
Ed, you're right, this is a religious war that no one can win. It's also trollish comment-bait. Occasionally, I like to rile up the natives (and by occasionally, I pretty much mean daily). - Akiva Moskovitz
Ed, you do make a good point, though: I don't want to sacrifice game quality just for stunning visuals. However, at least on the PC, you have the option for stunning visuals. Because of consoles, the cutting edge of gaming has been seriously dulled. A good example of this tug-of-war is Oblivion which was clearly console-oriented game but also had ground-breaking graphics at the time.... more... - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I figured, LOL. Nothing wrong with that. Religious wars are always entertaining to watch at least up until the crucifixions start, and some people are even in to those. - Ed Millard
As a proof that it isn't always about pretty graphics, I offer this challenge: as soon as you can play a game like Hearts of Iron III on a console, I'll buy in wholesale. But as long as consoles promote arcade-style play (and I mean arcade in the sense of simple gameplay as well as in the traditional sense of playing to earn prizes/achievements) as well as bottleneck PC gaming, I'll be... more... - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, the fact that you used the word 'juggalo' was my favourite part of the post. How could I refute that? My 'juggalo name' is Cutty the Clown, by the way. - joey
joey, hm, I wonder what my juggalo name would be. - Akiva Moskovitz
Stunning visuals are expensive to develop. They are great for the immersion, but me I like games for strategy, tactics and competition. The visuals don't add anything to that. Seems to me like too many companies are marketing games just based on "stunning visuals" because they've run out of ideas for the actual game, and too many players fall for it. - Ed Millard
Akiva, not sure consoles are exactly crippling PC gaming. As others have suggested the PC's openness is its own worst enemy. Not sure "piracy" is entirely it but it is certainly rampant and is punishing developers. For multiplayer games the cheating you have on PC's is really killing them, it sure hammers BF2 and Call of Duty. Not sure how rampant it is on consoles but I assume its either a lot less to non existent. - Ed Millard
Okay, let me make this easy for all of you: if you agree with me, you're right; if you disagree with me, you're wrong Wrong WRONG!@@@@@@@@@@@@!@#!!! - Akiva Moskovitz
I'm willing to let Akiva have his Alex Scoble moment.. just because - Rodfather
Every once in awhile, the hero should enjoy the exploits of his sidekick. - Akiva Moskovitz
Tell 'em, Akiva! Fuck yeah PC gaming! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Back to the very first response from Amber, I'm not stupid, I just can't afford to get a PC that can handle full-blown games yet. Maybe I'll reach that level when I replace my circa 2003 HP Pavilion that barely works. And sort of like what joey said, I'm not a very serious gamer, anyway, and I don't think I'm an idiot for using a console. Perhaps some people are, but I'm not. All I have... more... - Kamilah Gill
OK, I think Akiva just had the Nero, "Crucify all the console gamers" moment.... - Ed Millard
Kamilah: Here I am with a system from 2003, with a crappy video card, 1GB RAM, and a single-core P4. And yet I can play lots of great, full games on it. Cost is an excuse. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Chris, my computer has just gotten hopelessly full of stuff that slows it down. I defrag it, run virus detectors, etc. and it just acts really stupid all the time. I might get it to function well enough if I go through and painstakingly clean out everything in it, but I don't think it's worth the effort. I just need to start over with a clean slate. - Kamilah Gill
Not willing to go for a reformat and reinstall, eh? - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Console FTW because (1) I refuse to run Windows and (2) I refuse to upgrade my PC every 6-12 months. That said, game developers need to realize that we can plug in a keyboard and mouse on our console - at least I can plug one in the PS3, don't know about the Xbox - make that a controller option already and and get rid of dumbed down interfaces!!! - Haris bin Ali
Yeah, you can plug one in on a 360 as well... There's a folding panel on the right-hand side, similar to the cart slots on old consoles, with some USB ports inside. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Ok, first of all cutting-edge PC gaming is a hobby, not a thing for the casual gamer. Most gamers build their own rigs. That's part of the hobby. If you don't enjoy that, then by all means stick with consoles, no problem. Yes the gear is pricey but if you play it right you can updgrade incrementally as needed. Certainly consoles have their place and have brought the 3d gaming experience... more... - Adrian
The last time I seriously gamed on a computer, it was on a Commodore 64. If WoW was on a console, I'd totally switch over. - Victor Ganata
Hey, don't knock the C=64. There are some games for the C=64 that I still play today through emulation. :-) I still love Tower Toppler and Bubble Bobble. - Jason Huebel
Jason, there's a C64 emulator for Android. ;D - Adrian
The Commodore 64 isn't a console. But it does remind me: I need to find a Commodore 64, a 1571, and a 1581. I still have nearly all of my discs from back in the day. Same with my Apple ][e and Amiga collections (I do have an Amiga 500 upstairs). - Akiva Moskovitz
I still play Phantasie and a few other C64 RPGs. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Akiva: There are pretty decent, annual shows in Toronto and Chicago for Commodore fans. Toronto's is next month, at that. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Toronto's a far distance from me. Ebay's a lot closer. - Akiva Moskovitz
I still have all my C64 and Amiga disks too. I hope they still work. - Rodfather
@Adrian Shouldn't the focus be on the games themselves rather than the hardware/OS they run on? Console gaming lets me do that. PC gaming does not. - Haris bin Ali
AMIGAS SUCK!! - Internet's Tad
And with that...TAD SIGNS HIS DEATH WARRANT !! - Mo Kargas
OH YEAH? WELL TAD HAS A SQUEAKY VOICE. - Akiva Moskovitz
@Haris sorry but that's not the case. The focus has been on simplifying the games with the console tech as the lowest common denominator, so even if you have a higher spec pc the game design itself is limited by the console tech, and not just the graphics. - Adrian
well the differences between a pc game and a SNES/genesis game compared to a pc game and ps3/360 game are a little different. i go into game places now it's usually a wall one side of ps stuff, a wall of xbox stuff, a section of wii stuff and the pc games waaaay on the back wall. - Terry O'Fee
Craig Eddy
Time for an economic course change | Washington Examiner - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion...
"the rush to pass health care reform is generating massive uncertainty, even fear, about the future. Small-business men, for example, whose firms create three-fourths of all new jobs, know they are likely to be hit with a health care reform payroll tax of up to 6 percent if they don't fund at least 72.5 percent of each employee's insurance coverage. But there is no way to know whether the insurance will be affordable after health care reform passes. So they aren't hiring new employees now and they aren't investing in new ventures. That's a prescription for economic stagnation." - Craig Eddy from Bookmarklet
Craig Eddy
Napolitano Warns Against Anti-Muslim Backlash - FOXNews.com - http://www.foxnews.com/politic...
Napolitano Warns Against Anti-Muslim Backlash - FOXNews.com
"Homeland Security secretary reassures Arab world that U.S. authorities were taking measures to quell anti-Islam sentiments after Fort Hood rampage."...really? Wonder what they're doing to control someone's thoughts? - Craig Eddy from Bookmarklet
How surprising..... - Spencer
Louis Gray
Brunch in Sunnyvale with Yahoo's Glen Campbell and Google's Erica Joy Baker. Yum.
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Is that a sculpture? EDIT: I think I'm looking at chicken wings. - Captain Bubbles
The waffles were the best part. Promise. - Louis Gray
So how was it, what did you guys talk about? - Stephen Mack
Mostly, we just talked about TiVo, and Glenn showed off the new Yahoo! phone to compete with Android and iPhone. - Louis Gray
Why can't it be just Erica Joy and Glen Campbell - we've all been on FriendFeed for over a year... - Mona Nomura
Mona, it's because this was sent by e-mail and automatically goes to Twitter. I will change for you, ma'am. - Louis Gray
Are those grits in the middle of the plate? Are you sure you didn't bop over to Tennessee for breakfast? Bacon, sausage, eggs, fried chicken... - DGentry
Louis, sounds fun. Next one, bring the twins and I'll bring my kids, and let's have a play date! It'll be utter chaos for whatever restaurant we choose... :) - Stephen Mack
No silly - like just Glen and Erica Joy. Why does it have to be Yahoo!'s Glen and Google's Erica? I like FriendFeed because unlike Twitter, we're all just people, not so and so from x and x. - Mona Nomura
Amusingly enough this friendfeed post is already in the top 10 Google results for "yahoo phone" - DGentry
Kol Tregaskes
Still no lists in Seesmic Desktop for me. Should it automatically update itself?
Don't feel bad Kol, I am in the same boat you are lol - Tim Tunnicliff from email
I thought it was just Seesmic Web that has lists so far and Seesmic Desktop is still to come? - Travis Koger
Travis, it's both but you need to be on the distribution list to get the new Desktop version. Or see if this link works: http://clicks.aweber.com/y... - Kol Tregaskes
Brizzly you should check out, destroys Seesmic. - Matthew DeVries
I prefer using an app for tweeting. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Brizzly is an app - Matthew DeVries
I know its been out a while, but IMHO tweetree destroys both of them. For some reason its devs don't do much to promote it. If you have a chance, check out the way it displays friendfeed posts. - Michael Fidler
Oh, OK. Where can I download the app, Matthew? I can't see it when I log in. - Kol Tregaskes
It's a webapp Kol, and instead of having stand alone searchers, it syncs with your saved searches from Twitter actual, you have the same Brizzly where ever you sit down. - Matthew DeVries
I'm like you Kol, have Brizzly but didn't recall it being an app, will ahve to check that out. Michael, what is IMHO ? - Tim Tunnicliff from email
Ok I just went thru my Brizzly account and cannot find how you can download as an app version, am I missing something Mathew? :-/ - Tim Tunnicliff from email
Kol it worked and then some, you rock! :D - Tim Tunnicliff from email
There is nothing to download, the app runs in your browser, like a google app. - Matthew DeVries
Just open a new broswer window and run the web version in there for now. :) - Simon Wicks
So it's web based only? That's what I thought. Like I say I'll stick with an app. Not used anything better than Seesmic Desktop. - Kol Tregaskes
If you're on their mailing list, you should have gotten a direct link to download the new AIR client with list support. If you're not, you'll just have to wait until the public version of the desktop client gets list support (should be coming, soon, though). The Web version started supporting lists yesterday, I believe (shortly after Brizzly added support). - Curtiss Grymala
But Brizzly is an app. - Matthew DeVries
I'm so confused, this is like Abbot and Costello in hell - Matthew DeVries
But web based. I prefer tweeting in an app (i.e. not in a web page but with Seesmic Desktop). I think I need a lie down, LOL. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
But isn't air the same thing as a browser? - Matthew DeVries
Works better than a web page for me. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Last week, downloaded Seesmic Desktop with new funcs and it was using 140Mb RAM. Chrome 4.0 running Brizzly as an Application Shortcut... 12Mb. Sorry AIR apps are just too memory sucky. - Travis Koger from iPhone
No Mathew usually when someone refers in here as an "app", they are usually referring to an application that is not web-based: something that does not usually have any direct involvement with any browser. (Think of it almost as running an exe on your computer to observe network activity).... Air is from Adobe's Flash program, although "Air" works with many different applications. If... more... - Tim Tunnicliff from email
But Seesmic doesn't have trends, trend explanations, synced searches, and makes your fans work overtime (at least mine) - Matthew DeVries
or inline picture posting, shortener decoding, and is very very slow by comparison - Matthew DeVries
Trends and synced searches run in various other programs I have, but it would be nice if they implement those in Seesmic Desktop sometime. :+) - Tim Tunnicliff from email
Rob Port
Obama’s Mouthpiece: Can You Imagine If People Had Compared Bush To Hitler? - http://sayanythingblog.com/entry...
Gibbs: rewriting history one presser at a time - Craig Eddy
Chris Jones
To MSNBC the Least Important Thing about Killer Army Doctor is He was a Muslim Who Lauded Suicide Bombers: Meltdown with Keith Olbermann Part 14 « NewsReal Blog - http://newsrealblog.com/2009...
I wonder what took you so long. All together now: "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!" Post flagged as #hate! - Rene Wirtz
@Chris: I guess you are one of those idiots who thinks terrorism is limited to "them"... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Terrorism isn't limited to "them", nor one religion. However, only a fool would not see the relation between violence and islam. - Spencer
I also see a very clear relation between christians and violence and jews and violence, only a fool would not see those. - Rene Wirtz
So if you can associate those two religions to violence, why stop when it comes to islam? - Spencer
Way to miss the point, there, Sparky. He's pretty much referring to ANY religion that uses god as an excuse for unjustified murder. If you're too dense to pick up on that, then you have no business in any intelligent discussion on the matter. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I'm not stopping it when it comes to islam. I want CID to close their investigation and confirm or deny that there is a relation between Hasan and a terrorist organization, before I already be his judge and juror. - Rene Wirtz
@Denise, you are so far out there you can't even grasp reality. Mmmm'kay? - Spencer
Ooooh good comeback. Here's a shiny star for you. *feigns impressed face* Why don't you try actually arguing with intelligence before you resort to discussing reality. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Chris, thanks for sharing that article. It was a very funny assessment of the abysmal hypocrisy and hatred spouted by the media's own radical left-wing poster boy Keith "No Ratings" Olbermann. I can't believe Olbermeister considered a story about the Obama/Pelosi/ReidCare bill protest at Capital Hill yesterday to be more important than the shooting at Ft. Hood. What a jerk. - David C. Cooper
I would guess in the grand scheme of real life as opposed to rightist fantasy,the Fort Hood shooting is a blip not a huge incident certainly less important to all of us than Health Care or unemployemt or really my next meal. Rightist fantasy not withstanding a sadly sick person commiting suicide using the cops guns to do it is not earth shattering - WarLord
MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
US may not have European health care yet, but we already have European unemployment: Jobless rate reaches 10.2 percent. - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...
US may not have European health care yet, but we already have European unemployment: Jobless rate reaches 10.2 percent.
"The unemployed rate jumped to 10.2 percent, the highest since April 1983, from 9.8 percent in September, the Labor Department said Friday. The economy shed a net total of 190,000 jobs, more than economists had expected." - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from Bookmarklet
... save and create... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Great title - Spencer
RAPatton
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#TCOT Top Conservatives on Twitter
Unemployment Surges to 10.2 Percent, CNN Asks About Second Stimulus - http://newsbusters.org/blogs...
The Cato Institute
"Today, on page A19 we learn about a Small Business Administration subsidy program that has a 60-percent default rate. On the same page, we learn that the U.S. Postal Service will lose $7 billion this year." - Craig Eddy
"Then flip back to A15, and columnist Steve Pearlstein rightly lambastes the latest stimulus scheme from Congress: ”This $10 billion boondoggle is nothing more than a giveaway to the real estate industrial complex.”" - Craig Eddy
"Finally, on A14, we’ve got government-owned Fannie Mae losing a colossal $19 billion this year and asking the Treasury for another $15 billion taxpayer hand-out." - Craig Eddy
Rob Port
Remember When Obama Promised Not To Sign Bills Without Posting Them Online? - http://sayanythingblog.com/entry...
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