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- Patricia F. Anderson
I hear ya, Francine, like "50 of the top female bloggers over 50." When we see that day, we'll know we moved the earth somewhere.;-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Sonciary Honnoll: Actually the blogosphere is now split evenly between men and women bloggers :)
- Elisa Camahort Page
Those words ARE shocking when it's right in your face...most people only say it behind closed doors
- Mona Nomura
I respect those who rise above it. Wake up each day, work and smile
- Charlie Anzman
i want to make a comment. i want to contribute, but i am having a hard time. Last Month in all the stadiums that the European Cup had matches there were huge black billboards that said "Stop Racism." billboards, expensive billboards in what generates lots of viewers, so its not just the internet- its everywhere- and it stinks.
- Nathan Eckenrode
@Mona Beleive it or not -- I'd rather have it in the open. Trust me.
- Shey
@Nathan Racism in European soccer is horrendous -- I couldn't believe a presentation I saw on it.
- Shey
@shey - I agree with the rather having it open. Your known enemy can be dealt with - it's tough when you find out people you consider peers, colleagues, and even friends don't reciprocate because of deep seeded, hidden racist leanings.
- George Smith
Shey-of course Sun Tzu said, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Sad how much ignorance still prevails in light of all the information available on the Net.
- Mark Forman
In some ways, yes. I heard about Loren's video and thought, there's another example of not understanding culture, history, sensitivities, even of being a racist. But I figured most people write that stuff off as yet another example of the change we need. Then I see what's on that screen from Wayne Sutton's webcast and it newly pisses me off. The cro-magnons coming out of their caves.
- Hutch Carpenter
Shey, just wanted to let you know I appreciate the voice you've brought to this. It's a shame to see those idiots hide behind anonymity, but that's the nature of the web and it just solidifies your points. Glad to see FF users rally in your support.
- Mark Krynsky
Wow, there's nothing subtle about those comments. It's shame that it's 2008 and you almost can't tell except for the fact that we have fancy tech toys. I find it depressing that no matter what we achieve in life, we still have to deal with this type of treatment and to add insult to injury people claim you are imagining it. I'm glad you documented this.
- Kenya
Thanks Kenya, I almost titled the post to make that point.
- Shey
Charlie Anzman on your blog post sez, "I respect those who rise above it. Wake up each day, work and smile" I say meet it head on and smash into it. Until people have fear that they will be personally touched by being ass-clowns it will continue to propagate within "that" community. Reach out and touch someone is my motto...
- Tim Moore
Tim - This whole chapter has been as upsetting to me as many others. I wouldn't have commented unless I felt I had been and still am active in trying to be part of a solution rather than being pessimistic like many others. I think Shey knows why I'm right here. I'd hope so anyway.
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, I definitely appreciate your support. Thanks :)
- Shey
I deal with it almost every time I'm on my live stream. I "moderate" my chat often to remove them from the experience. I agree with Charlie in that I take the high road and don't feed the trolls, I simply remove them from the equation. All the while I don't get upset because it's not worth the stress. I couldn't deal with Yahoo live, the moderation tools are horrible compared to Ustream's (IRC)
- Bwana ☠
Despise it but also in a quandary - reality is that someone pathetic enough to say some of the things that have been said is desperately demanding 1 thing - attention. Don't know this feldman guy - comments from Corvida and Wayne's cast were anonymous cowards - part of me feels like every second of attention I pay to anyone with no respect for others (and by extension themselves) is 1 second more than they deserve - even if I am denouncing them. (sry need to cont)
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
...I once heard this quote "the opposite of love isn't hate - its apathy" the disdain I feel for individuals so insecure that they feel they need to exercise their right to free speech or create their "art" at the expense of others is so deep that I want to strike them with the hardest blow I can: to ignore their very existence. Please don't take these thoughts to an extreme - def believe that we need to stand up and defend wonderful people like Corvida and Wayne against insecure slime
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
not sure what to say about this other than you have my support. It's an ugly thing, but it's definitely out there.
- Nathan Rein
Thank you Shey. It's become apparent to me over time that Louis and I are alike in many ways. Desensitized? Between this dialog and the Congressional vote today, I was seriously upset reading the through the threads tonight. Better days ahead my friend. No gloom and doom from this guy.
- Charlie Anzman
Wow, that's brutal. It really breaks my heart to see people acting so horribly. It's really frustrating because there is so little that can be done. In fact, this is one of the challenges with social media: when people are shrouded by pseudonyms, it gives them full immunity from social capital.
- Clay Newton
I recently worked on the Wimbledon campaign which involved posting highlights and interviews to our youtube channels. I was shocked and horrified by the comments people make in this vein. I guess, I live in a bubble. I just can't relate at all. I think the only way to combat it is with complete intolerance. We have to make people feel like they need to go into dark corners to talk like this and NEVER accept the slightest of infractions.
- gfox
Shey, I'm here as well to add my voice of support. I left a comment on Louis' post and I echo the same message that we need to shine a spotlight on this type of ignorant racist behavior. It's out there and we need to do what we can stand against it. Thank you for activating this discussion.
- Larry Kless
May we never become desensitized to racism, for when we stop feeling outrage at this type of behavior, we've lost the very essence of our humanity. I believe that Wayne Sutton and Corvida are strong and hope that they know that this "exposed" hatred has us all scratching our heads tonight. I'm so saddened when I think that there are people who are so addicted to hate that live in it 24hrs/ day. My prayer is that they will someday come to know what love is, for obviously they are blind to it.
- michael sean wright
Ryan, you have to look at the bigger picture here. Look up the contextual usage and the history of N-word. You asked how should you react to others using that word? Negatively. It's a word, regardless of Black usage, that SHOULD NOT be used, especially by non-Blacks.
- Shey
A small, heartening counternote: @owillis honors an American hero who gave up his job rather than honor the racist Jesse Helms. http://snurl.com/2w805 -
- Michael Markman
Growing up in Chicago I saw a *ton* of it but not so much after I joined the AF. Haven't been exposed to much of it for 8 years until I was playing COD4 on my 360. A white guy started bashing a black guy with the N-Bomb and then he started using it right back. It went on for about 5 min straight and I had to bail on the game. So I guess the answer is no. I got pissed off! I just can't believe it still exists in 2008.
- David Cook
Just looking at that chatlog at the end says it all. It's truly disgusting what people can say, especially considering this was direct to their face.
- CannonGod