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Google and the billion-dollar HTML tag | Webware - CNET - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
Garin Kilpatrick, Stalkk.ed, Andrew and 4 other people liked this
"Google began compressing images in Google Maps, which improved load performance by two to three times for users on slower connections, which still comprise about 12 percent of those who use Google Maps, she said. Likewise, switching from an image version of the Google Checkout shopping cart to an HTML version saved time despite the complicated code needed to properly display the graphic."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
<img /> ?
- Vezquex
No, Vezquex. The billion-dollar HTML tag is <marquee>
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Haha. You know, <video> could cost Adobe a billion or two.
- Vezquex
The burden for this stuff really shouldn't be on the developer.. yes, they should watch how their applications impact users.. but it seems to me that underlying technology needs to be changed, and made seamless to the developer, so they can concentrate on more important things.
- Tim Hoeck
It seems the article was a bit misleading. They switched from images to CSS sprites, but there doesn't seem to be any one "billion-dollar HTML tag".
- Vezquex
I love http://www.feedly.com -- it is how I read my Google Reader feeds now. Requires Firefox, but if you have it very nice headline display
Pinksy, Jorge Barba, Wes Bright and 95 other people liked this
How do you consume RSS on your iPhone?
- Mike Bracco
Mike: I use NetNewsWire, personally.
- John Fox
Mike: FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
ByLine - syncs with Google Reader
- Brian Roy
John: me too, I use NNW on Mac and iPhone.
- Mike Bracco
I used this a while back... it sure has come a long way.
- Evan Travers
Robert: I never would have thought of using Friendfeed as an all purpose RSS reader. Don't know why it never occured to me.
- John Fox
Scoble: I assume you just mean that you follow the stream of info here - do you use the FF imaginary friend feature to add feeds?
- Mike Bracco
Mike: I follow 25,000 people and their RSS feeds here.
- Robert Scoble
Feels like I lose control when I use Feedly though its a very beautiful interface to GReader.
- The Fat Oracle
Firefox feels somewhat slow after Safari 4
- jess
Scoble: Gotcha...you probably have enough "real" friends that you do not need to create "imaginary" ones :)
- Mike Bracco
i love feedly too
- andy brudtkuhl
Feedly.com is best RSS reader for ease of use and readability without question
- Jonathan Evans
from Friend Deck
Fun that Feedly's founder is here too: http://friendfeed.com/edwk
- Robert Scoble
Feedly.com is best RSS reader for ease of use and readability without question
- Jonathan Evans
from Friend Deck
thanks for sharing, I use "times" but it's a bit "memory" heavy : ) this one could be next!
- ledretch
I have to create *some* imaginary friends since some people on my Twitter don't have a FF account yet. I keep begging them, though.
- John Fox
I started using feedly again recently. I love the interface.
- Spirit 2.0
Josh: here in friendfeed there's just a lot of noise sometimes. Blogs tend to me more thought out than most of the things people import here, which can include Tweets, short items, upcoming events, etc. Sometimes I just want to see blogs and Feedly brings me that. Also, there are still lots of people who don't use friendfeed (although that number goes down every day, I'm getting 1,000 new followers on friendfeed a week which demonstrates that friendfeed is growing pretty quickly).
- Robert Scoble
Interesting stuff... always curious as to the business model...
- Buzz Bruggeman
Thanks robert! @buzz: more on the business model very soon. Stay tuned.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Awesome find, also going to use it as my start page.
- Chris Lang
Requires FireFox?! No thanks, let me know when there's a Chrome version.
- Martin Johnson
Robert: I thought you were in the FriendFeed can replace Google Reader camp, which made me question the way I was using FF. Glad to hear that I'm not the only one that feels FF isn't the best place for blog aggregation and that blog aggregation is still valuable. Too bad I've switched back to Safari for now.
- Chip Ramsey
I liked Feedly, but FireFox not so much, compared to Safari. Unfortunate that they have to tie it to a browser.
- Oliver Bouchard
I've been enjoying http://feedafever.com/ in Safari (both desktop and iPhone versions). Firefox is far too greedy with memory.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Agree: Need a chrome version.
- Ron Hudson
I've mostly bailed on Google Reader altogether: http://bit.ly/N7JTa
- Mark Czerniec
Chip: keep in mind I haven't used Google Reader or Feedly in weeks. FriendFeed actually brings me most of the good stuff I see in my Google Reader feed. But if there's a reason you need to use feeds still, Feedly is very nice.
- Robert Scoble
I'll give it a try, I'm just against adding Firefox plugins as my main browser now a days is Chrome
- Jorge Escobar
Thanks Robert. Installing now.
- Mark Davidson
Quick question: when I read an item on feedly, is it flag as read on Google Reader?
- Jorge Escobar
Love the interface
- Henry Liu
@Jorge. Yes. When you read an article in feedly, it is marked as read in Google Reader. When you share an article in feedly (thumbs up or share with note icon), it will be shared in Google Reader. Finally, when you save an article for later in feedly, it will be starred in Google Reader.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Thanks Edwin. I have to say, I got a lot of errors using the plugin, mainly authentication. I logged out and logged in several times, but every time I click on a story I got an error message.
- Jorge Escobar
I wonder if these errors are because of the 'Scoble Effect' http://bit.ly/TJ5JD
- Jorge Escobar
Feedly appears to have grown up since I played with it about a year ago. I may try it again but Firefox has really lost my love as of late compared to Chrome. When Firefox only crashes individual Tabs in separate memory spaces (which is rumored to happen), then I may love my Mozilla tool once again. Seems like I'm not the only one who feels the same.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
manielse: I agree. I love Chrome and wish Feedly worked in it.
- Robert Scoble
@bill: feedly supports most of the keyboard shortcuts of Google Reader (j, k, s, n, p, etc..). Click ? in feedly to get the complete list. @jorge: yes for about 10 minutes, the registration and authentication service had their heads under the water. Should be back to normal now.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I've tried Feedly a couple times but I just can't use the "headlines" interface. I like still plugging through Google Reader for what info I still having coming through that channel.
- Tony
@tony: me to. i like to hammer 'j' untill i see stuff i like. it's nice and single-tasky. feedly makes my brain want to read everything at once
- Chris Bingham
So do I. It's becoming my only start-up page. It's Google Reader for lazy people (I'm one..)
- Martin Añazco
ooh, hammering j also works pretty nice in feedly! i'm sold
- Chris Bingham
@Edwin looks like it's working now. I'll give it a spin in the next 2 days and see if I get the hang of it. I have to say the UI is refreshing!
- Jorge Escobar
might take a little getting used to, but the presentation of your feeds is really nice..
- Robert de Castro
I just gave feedly a try but must say that it doesn't offer many benefits over Google Reader. Some of the things I like include the 'Karma' feature, the ability to aggregate articles related to Twitter's hot topics, and of course the magazine look. However, I find the interface somewhat clumsy in that how articles are marked as read is somewhat confusing. Their preferences page should...
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- Angus Burton
Ah, I love feedly too been using for 6 months .. hey, wait a minute, you still read feeds in your reader?
- Beth Kanter
I agree with Angus. I prefer Google Reader's simplicity.
- Curt Mercadante
I am an experienced user of both Google Reader and Feedly, with subscriptions to over 1,000 feeds, and have discovered that I can cover much more ground more quickly and more easily with Feedly than with Google Reader. But Feedly takes some investment of time and effort to learn -- there is much more to it than meets the eye at first glance. Its full value isn't apparent until you dig into the full feature set.
- Sean McBride
What Bryan at the top said. FireFox? That dog don't hunt on this box. You gotta Make the apps work in any browser, or I (for one) am not likely to play with them. Safari, Firefox, Chrome, IE, and Opera.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
is feedly working ? here is not ! : /
- Rocky
@rocky. it should work. What is the error you are running into? Can you please open a bug on http://www.getsatisfaction.com/feedly and I will track it down
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I love Feedly. I don't read a lot of RSS feeds, but the ones I do are very diversified, and I think Feedly organizes well. I like the magazine feel to it, and I really like the fact that I can mark a feed read, but save feeds I like to really read or refer to, when I have more time.
- Bonnie Foster
finally, a way to look at RSS feeds that's welcoming...you know, like a normal website :-)
- Julian Seery Gude
One of many Feedly power features: you're subscribed to hundreds of feeds. You want to jump to a particular feed without navigating lists of feeds. Start typing the name of the feed in the Feedly incremental search box, and bingo: there's the feed, ready to click through to. Example: typing "lif" -- three characters -- brings up Lifehacker. Try doing that in Google Reader.
- Sean McBride
LOL: now I don't want to read my Google Reader feeds so that I accumulate enough to see them tomorrow on Feedly...
- Jorge Escobar
for feedly users - the topic search is amazing i.e. http://www.feedly.com/home#tr...
- michael sean wright
Confirmed that Feedly is still not for me. Just rather see an enhanced, smarter GReader with Filters, User Behavior Ranking (not Social Ranking but knows others what this) and Topic groupings (auto hide articles that appear to be duplicates).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
love feedly! It's the Only way I use Google reader :) it's my start page baby HA!
- Aline Ohannessian
I don't even know where to start with the reasons I love Feedly. It's an indispensable part of any good information filtering/data gathering tool set.
- Mike Elliott
I began to use Feedly five days ago, after three years of use of Google Reader, and certainly i will not turn back. Fantastic experience!
- Stalkk.ed
I love Feedly too! I started using it a few months ago based on some recommendations here at FF. It was as much an upgrade to me as going from my 4 year old Treo to the I-phone. HUGE.
- Kelly W.
I will have to give this a try. Thanks for sharing.
- Rocque
I tried it today... and yes, looks really great and beautiful, now I'll do a daily test... yes, thanks for sharing!
- Arne Krueger
How does it look on mobile?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I can't get it to mark articles as read without clicking on the X. I usually go through google reader hammering 'j'. I tried that in feedly, and have also tried to 'm' shortcut and neither will mark articles as read. What am I missing?
- Brian Newman
Brian: j, j, j should mark articles as read (titles turning black instead of blue). If you are seeing a different behavior, then it must be a bug. Could you please open an issue on http://www.getsatisfaction.com/feedly with any potential error message being printed in the firefox error console when you click on j? Thanks.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin - Sure thing! Thanks for the quick response.
- Brian Newman
I noticed a lot of Google Chrome fans yesterday in this thread. Not Feedly but a good tool to look at. If you are using 3.0.189.0+ (currently Dev Build), I'd highly recommend you checking out TPGoogleReader (version 0.3) http://tpreal.dcmembers.com/TPGoogl...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Just installed, pretty nice
- Che Hodgins
Feedly is supreme. Looking forward to the iphone version!
- John O'Day
I find it a bit busy still, but the mini toolbar is great
- Yant
I love it too. I use it for my start page and that's how I read my news each day. Would be nice to see it for other browsers.
- Quasar
I think Feedly is a superb product that goes beyond being a simple RSS reader. I wrote some of my thoughts here http://bit.ly/ysGFT. Once again, thanks Robert for recommending good stuff like this.
- Jorge Escobar
Yup. Feedly is great and I especially like the mini toolbar, makes sharing stuff on Twitter a breeze!
- Jorge Barba
"Why Aren’t More People Using RSS?" Answer: it's too geeky and doesn't offer non-news junkes enough value - http://hightalk.net/2009...
Daniel Chow, Sean Brady, Tyler (Chacha) and 71 other people liked this
I like RSS more than Twitter :)
- yagami
I still use it plenty.
- Steve Rubel
from email
i feed about 300 blogs through Google Reader. Yes, I might have an illness.
- Shawna Benson
Make me Master of the Universe and I can make it less geeky. Seriously. If I could get developers to drop their paranoia, we could make it easy. And get the BigCo's to cough up a few bucks to operate a subscription server. That's the hard part. Going from "I want to subscribe to this" to actually subscribing. The subscription process needs to be centralized.
- Dave Winer
"too geeky" is code for badly marketed.
- AJ Kohn
No, "too geeky" means too complicated.
- Dawn
@Dave, in some ways, isn't Google becoming the master server for RSS content? Newsgator pretty much today announced all of their main RSS clients will soon sync with Google Reader.
- Steve Rubel
from email
A lot of people still don't use tabbed browsing. We take a lot for granted.
- Steve Rubel
from email
RSS being too hard is bogus. In FF, the act of subscribing to a feed is the same as bookmarking as a site. People don't subscribe for the same reason they don't bookmark -- they just don't care. And that's why people search for "yahoo" rather than going to yahoo.com.
- Andy Bakun
It doesn't feel as personal as something like Twitter or FriendFeed. Most items that can be received via RSS can also be discovered via FF or Twitter...only thru the latter two, it has a social element to it.
- Team Frosick
@Dawn: No, sit down with a non-RSS user and explain what RSS really is and how easy it is to use and they usually fall in love. It could use some better UX but really just the freaking acronym is confusing. Blogs on Demand or TiVo for blogs or BlogFlix and it would dawn on people that content can come to them instead of the other way around.
- AJ Kohn
In France, we don't have an "average Joe"; we have a "Madame Michu"(like average Joe's aunt, you see?). And I've been complaining about the fact that it was IMPOSSIBLE for Madame Michu to understand what "RSS" could mean, since she doesn't really fully understand what "browsing" means.
- Zackatoustra
I guess that we("geekly litterate people") have failed bringing the power of RSS to the people(and Madame Michu). Mme Michu doesn't care about "Valid RSS feed". But still, she appreciate the stuff that happens when an update of her son status on facebook happens. Soon, she'll be thrilled to see tweets poping up, and, still, she won't give a shoe for a clear defintion of "the so-simple subscription paradigm".
- Zackatoustra
RSS is a must for anyone who wants to follow the topics of interest. I don't understand the point people try to make when they say that RSS is dead and Twitter etc is where they read their news. Sign up for Google Reader, subscribe to sites you visit and that will save you a lot of time and make you much more productive.
- Marko Saric
I abandoned Google Reader last year. Too much crap and not enough social filtering.
- Thomas Hawk
Agree with Davis Freeberg. RSS powers widgets and wordpress plugins and whatnot that bring weather, news, tweetstreams, etc., onto websites. So, people are reading stuff delivered by RSS (or in some cases APIs), they just don't know it.
- Laura Norvig
Twitter is talking about being like electricity. I think RSS operates in a similar fashion. It is already invisible YET it powers much of what we do here. So questions of adoption miss the point to me - it's already adopted. How public should a 'protocol' be? That's the question here...and it might apply to Twitter too, I think...
- Keven Elliff
@Keven Elliff, spot on. Sure, people aren't gushing about RSS in their blog posts, but their blogs almost universally have an RSS feed anyhow. RSS is ubiquitous (on the Web, at least). You're right. It comes down to how we use this tool.
- Michael Becker
The thing I that I don't like about the RSS process is that it is just not real time. The way it is currently deployed I have to have a tool that regularly polls a whole bunch of sites at infrequent times to determine if anything has changed. That just isn't fast enough - and if I poll fast enough (and everybody else does the same) to satisfy my real time wants it breaks the delivering...
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- Brian Sullivan
I like AJ's comment: "Sit down with a non-RSS user and explain what RSS really is and how easy it is to use and they usually fall in love." I've seen this, too. But I think we're missing another root cause: big sites haven't figured out how to please those of us that want full, ad-free (or ad-lite) RSS feeds, which means they get way less ad placement compared to you visiting their website. Therefore, they bury the "what's RSS?" content (see NYTimes) and they don't help the average Joe/Michu figure out RSS.
- Jeremy Schultz
In other words, successful RSS feeds equals less ad revenue for a big site, so why do that? Just a theory... (I know some sites use/try placing ads in RSS, but maybe just posting a summary versus full text is an option.)
- Jeremy Schultz
My entire business is based on RSS. No RSS, no podcasts.
- Leo Laporte
I think RSS is a miracle, yet I can think of very few people I know that seem to be aware of it's for.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I totally love RSS. I rarely actually "surf" the web. My biggest issue is to decide whether to use gReader or NNW ;-)
- Sven
I can't see living without my Google RSS feed! I follow over 200 blogs, news & information sites using RSS. It is indispensable in my opinion.
- Jeff P. Henderson
RSS is not difficult to use. I just think that your average Joe six-pack has no idea what RSS is or how it could benefit them. I know many people who visit multiple web sites every day to see what is new. If they only knew that they could have custom tailored news delivered to them in one place, most people would be very happy to use it.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Because all I do on the internet is check my official mails :|
- Rohit
I think it certainly could be more user-friendly.
- debegray
100% agreed. I can't live without my RSS feeds, its how I start my day with coffee, I am a total junkie. On the flip side, while I have show my wife how, and she has agreed it is awesome, she just doesn't use the net like that and wont do the 2 seonds of admin it takes to enjoy them.
- Bush Williams
from Alert Thingy
Agreed. Tech people need to take a cue from Apple. Simple = better adoption, period.
- Patricia
I find Google's Chrome lack of support for RSS a concern, you have no way to know a site/page has an RSS link, without going into the source with Chrome...why is this? when every other browser, even Chrome's source Safari does, and the worst browser of all, Internet Explorer has done for ages. Really for the average user, they should not need to understand RSS, it should just work,...
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- Carl Grint
I still find it amazing that Delicious or StumbleUpon doesn't have some sort of flag that will ask if you want to subscribe to the site you are bookmarking or giving a thumbs up to. They could even white-label a RSS reader and put their brand all over it. Talk about a way to keep a customer and get them hooked on RSS.
- AJ Kohn
I spoke about RSS on a radio station a month or so back. Clip is available at http://andypiper.wordpress.com/2009... I made the same point that many people are "using" RSS without realising it - through various online apps and mashups, through FF, Twitter and other tools.
- Andy Piper
I take a Jacob Neilson-esque view of it: RSS offers too much content that overwhelms people. It's why they like Twitter, which forces users to ruthlessly shorten their descriptions.
- Maxwell Kennerly
I can't speak to the people who aren't, but I still love RSS and consider it a primary if not the primary source of news for me.
- Martha
Chris - to some extent that is already happening although very subtly - Safari 4's recent sites view uses RSS to mark sites as changed, and you don't even have to bookmark them. It's only a few steps from here to showing the RSS content as a 'preview'.
- Robin Barooah
Yep, I think you're partly right. But, in a sense, that sucks. Because that means that we "litterate internet users" won't be able to "explode the use of RSS". Only browsers makers(Microsoft, Mozilla, Opera, Applel) can thus make the revolution move? That's a shame. But, as mentionned many times before in this thread, we do not need to use the term "RSS", or even "Syndication". Those...
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- Zackatoustra
from email
11% in 2008? I wonder what the figure is now. I'm surprised that people consider that to be 'low' - it seems pretty gigantic to me when you consider how complex it is compared to say, Google. Also, even the best feed readers essentially have no real tools for managing the potential overload.
- Robin Barooah
How are Twitter/Facebook/friendfeed/blogs changing how you learn? I'm speaking on that topic tomorrow: (PDF) http://innovationsinelearning.gmu.edu/2009Pre...
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I'd love to know if you have any stories I should pass along.
- Robert Scoble
I will definitely be showing off friendfeed, because I learn something from it every day.
- Robert Scoble
Expanding what I see, and then I can dig deeper. The socials give you new and different outlooks, viewpoints, etc. This does not happen with TV, newspapers, or friends.
- Eric
Oh, and cats. Lots of pictures of cats.
- Eric
Learning is much more targeted and still organic. Like a good flower patch, you can pick and chose unlike traditional media. The real time web is awesome. News come faster and you can ignore the mundane conversations. It's democratically global at your finger tips. It has HUGE room for improvement.
- Yann Ropars
Do you think that people will eventually use friendfeed as something more than just an aggregator? Or is this the space that Google Wave is aiming for (in which case it will render ff useless)?
- Nate
adding Wikipedia on that and yes that changed everything I have ever learned and will ever learn in the future in a big way!
- Alex M.
Robert is there an agreed hashtag for the "5th Annual Innovations in eLearning Symposium" conference? Would love to tune in. These social networks are changing the way we learn - we're learning, sharing and collaborating in exciting new ways. We're learning faster and distributing this in near real-time - well, with FriendFeed you could argue it is in real time! I believe these tools are a paradigm shift in how we are communicating, and learning.
- Tony Hollingsworth
Tony: I don't know. They aren't very web savy. Took me a long time to even find the PDF of the conference, which is funny.
- Robert Scoble
Nate: I'm already using friendfeed as a non-aggregator. You gotta find the power in the groups here. I have to do a video on those.
- Robert Scoble
Tony: plus, I hate hashtags. Why do you need them? Friendfeed's search engine is so good you don't need them to find this post anymore.
- Robert Scoble
I use both services as a magazine surfing through a myriad of topics, sometimes digging deeper into one when I find one that interests me. Sometimes I am reading for specific topics, sometimes general knowledge, sometimes for no reason other than just for fun.
- Dave Ploch
robert, could you expand on that 'non-aggregator' terminology a bit? do you mean getting more out of it than just aggregating feeds? like the discssions etc?
- Chris Heath
yeah tony: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Chris Heath
Chris: yes. I have a private room where I just talk with a small group of people. VentureBeat and Wired Online use rooms to do their workflow.
- Robert Scoble
I meet friends I would never have met on the street.
- Randy Allen Bishop
ok, yeah - i though you meant that robert, but in the back of my mind i was thinking 'i use groups to aggregate...'
- Chris Heath
Randy: yeah, but what are you learning from them? How is your learning changing?
- Robert Scoble
here's where i tried to do a bit of teaching late last night when i should have been sleeping http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Chris Heath
via FF, et al I get news/info through a *human filter* - swineflu was a great example - hype has less effect unless it's legit - if we'd only just discovered that the Earth wasn't flat, there'd still be sites floating around saying it is - to add to this, we can now edit the record on the spot - adds value to the bandwidth in a new way
- thinfilms
Thanks guys - I'm a n00b at FriendFeed and keep reverting to Twitter and hashtags/Twitter Search to find threaded conversations and "virtual watercooler" stuff
- Tony Hollingsworth
I learn from people that I would never have the chance to learn from otherwise - I seek out social media heavies, because I want to learn about certain web 2.0 tools and I look for real estate tech heads so I can see and learn what they are up too. My job combines technology and real estate - so this gives me loads of material to share with my 600 + agents. My FF filters help me decipher and fine tune the information.
- Stefanie Hahn
Online social media tools significantly change the learning process, taking it from linear to intuitive and integrative - a multi-spoked wheel. Learn new things everyday from Twitter and blogs, much of which I did not intend but learning resulted as by-product.of exposure.
- Carol Lynn Martens
Im not sure if this is a thought but we talk about micro blogging I got to say that Im seeing micro learning. A lot of the interns I get know a good deal but they are missing the context and the ability to put the individual bits together. still it is a fantastic way to find information and interact.
- Terry Bruce
Btw, you commented on the savviness of educators and I'll share that Education does digital technology at a very grass-roots level and much of it bootstraped by teachers or others in the classroom. So a broad level of sophistication isn't there - it's in pockets.
- Carol Lynn Martens
Gee Scoble, ask and you shall receive. :)
- Lon Cohen
We learn a broader range of information relating to our interests, but the great thing is that we focus the learning through consensus, interaction, and reactions to validate the content.
- James Stratford
inquiry-based learning is more gratifying than ever before thanks to the social networks. cross-disciplinary inquiries are more accessible, too, because of the range of folks participating, so results return with more relevance - learners should be able to customize the kind of information they're after to a fine degree. the flexibility of these tools allow me to learn in the...
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- thinfilms
My take on the classroom/lecture analogy/metaphor (whatever): Any given friendfeed discussion has the capacity to become a learning experience about almost anything. Those who participate are akin to those in class who raise their hand and question/challenge the teacher. There is no designated teacher here, so everyone who participates 'can' be a teacher (and probably is to someone)....
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- Chris Heath
For me, it's kind of like speed reading. You don't learn every detail but you do get a quick, somewhat comprehensive understanding of the topic. Took speed reading classes in summer school when I was a kid. Thanks mom :)
- padric toman
Robert, much of learning is about making meaningful connections through meaningful experiences and learning through apprenticeships. These tools provide the ability to experience thought leaders on any/many topics from anywhere and if you participate in the conversation you begin to build your own understanding. As the filters (search & social connections) allow you to fine tune that engagement it can become very effective.
- Lee
good point, Chris
- thinfilms
Robert, as a theory to back up your thoughts, check out the Social Learning Theory by Albert Bandura.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
'Study Groups' self-assemble here on friendfeed - once track is back then there will be no excuse for not finding the group you're looking for
- Chris Heath
The jury is still out on my appreciation of the social aspect, recently dropping in appears to increase my creative flow. The speed reading concept is also viable, imo.
- Carolyn Wood
i don't agree with the speed reading aspect. part of the solution for me is getting away from this partial learning and into something significantly more comprehensive. many of us think a 3-page article on a topic leads us to *understanding* it - surely there's a happy medium somewhere
- thinfilms
Would like to see more on harnessing the power of groups on FriendFeed and how businesses are using the platform with private workgroups
- Carol Lynn Martens
Twitter/FF - I agree with Chad. Well put. “inquiry-based learning is more gratifying than ever before.” The focus for me is on the social aspect of sharing data; both legacy and real time. I follow people with similar interests. People who have a passion for exploring new media paradigms, products, and services that shape the way through which we disseminate information. That social...
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- Benjamin Taylor
yeah chad, i'm with you on that... this format allows for a more in-depth interaction - i do get the speed reading part, but that's just so i can find the bits i want to get in-depth with (like this thread, for instance)
- Chris Heath
By the way, to answer the earlier question, the hashtag for the conference is #iel09
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
#ieL09 for clarity
- Chris Heath
Robert: I use FF to alert me of new blogs in areas of interest, I then use the blogs to help me find answers to the problems or design decisions they don't talk about in school or books. I think of blogs as one of the best ways to mentor the masses and FF as a way to find out about them. Its like having millions of agents looking for material I'm interested in.
- Jim Lavin
Look at what I made: http://friendfeed.com/law-blob Dozens of legal experts commenting in their fields on recent issues, and I'm adding more all the time. Easy to skim, easy to tag, and deeper than the sea. Just as one example... e-discovery is a fast moving area of the law, and by following less than a dozen blogs, my briefs blow the doors off my opponent's.
- Maxwell Kennerly
Thanks for the tip, Robert. This conference looks really interesting and I may try to attend.
- Sterling Zumbrunn
from BuddyFeed
Social Median has been great for taking many sources and shooting back the content from them that interests me on a particular subject, it is good tool for learning about topics relating to current events.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
We no longer need to retain "loose" knowledge - we just need to maintain loose networks of smart people. This is where FF and social learning kick in
- Gavin Heaton
Robert: Discovery = Learning -- FF/Twitter accelerate Discovery -- So FF/Twitter = Learning x Learning
- Paul Moss
Robert, also consider including excellent Q&A sites like stackoverflow in your talk
- Arvind
Robert you have likely seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch... How one teacher uses twitter in the classroom
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Peter: yes, but I'm glad you reminded me of that. Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
my interest in social networking is in "knowledge management", now everyone knows that you can not manage knowledge, you also can not "capture" knowledge, that is a fallacy, what you can do however is facilitate better information sharing and especially involve different groups in different means of problem solving, twitter, ff and others are very useful tools in aggregating /...
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- Paul Tudor
Just reading these comments is a great learning experience! I find the level of brainpower, imagination and creativity from the friendfeeders to be so exceptional. I have always been an info junkie and now I have these excellent creative info miners-from Twitter and FF giving me great new gems second by second. My problem is managing the time. I can lget caught up in the flow and hours go by in seeming minutes, as I share and connect the various dots in the matrices.
- Karma Martell
Oh Robert! You triggered a couple of interesting conversations over 10 hours ago and then, while I was sleeping, you started this one!! I am sure that I have not fully understood your question, but my comment(s) grew so fast that they outgrew this format, so I threw them into a hastily written blog post here: http://johnwlewis.wordpress.com/2009...
- John W Lewis
I am late to the conversation and this has proab been said, but using social media I have access to thought leaders and innovators. I have had ff conversation with you in the past and I would never have that opportunity 10 years ago (well maybe blogs).
- Jeff
Robert: this just came past http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica... (Embracing the Twitter Classroom) some intersting stuff here.
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
On the off chance that you may possibly mention FriendFeed :) I'll share one of the FriendFeed saved searches that I use to keep up with job information http://friendfeed.com/search...
- John E. Bredehoft
Social Journalism: Past, Present, and Future http://mashable.com/2009...
I loved this. :)
- Ben Parr
Una biblioteca digitale mondiale contro il cultural divide - http://www.wired.it/news...
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Monetizing your Web App: Business Model Options | Our Blog | Box UK - http://www.boxuk.com/blog...
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"Building or launched a web site/application? Check out the choices below on how to generate money from your hard work. Note that these are not mutually exclusive: consider mixed hybrid models too."
- David Orban
from Bookmarklet
Ottima risorsa. Io tifo per i micropayment, magari giocati sull'acquisto di impulso. Mi sembrano il sistema di pagamento che meglio si adatta al concetto di rete (insieme al freemium). Pensa a un sistema a power-up nel quale puoi comprare feature a basso costo per un periodo di tempo limitato. Che so, prendi Vimeo. Voglio caricare un video HD con il profilo free? Ok, mi paghi un dollaro e ti abilito l'upload di un filmato HD.
- Federico [Kurai]
economia della conoscenza, che fatica farne capire il valore! http://ibridazioni.com/2009...
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Italy's online world defends itself from absurd proposals of Internet legislation, filtering, and censorship: http://www.amointernet.it/it/
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46% of the Digg Front Page is Controlled by 50 Websites | Soshable | Social Media Blog - http://soshable.com/digg-wh...
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Interesting, but those are all of the most productive sites in terms of new content generation. I'm not sure what else one would expect to be the case.
- Bryan Danilovich
Yeah, I never really got into Digg for this very reason. Instead of feeling like a resource for unique community-found content, it just feels like I'm just getting The NY Times.
- Ryan Garns
How To Write For Search Engines - http://www.webpronews.com/experta...
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Some experts go on to say that the goal of SEO is two-fold, with the first objective to put out the appropriate "bait" for search engine spiders and the second to serve up useful information to people who want and need it. Debates about priorities continue among SEO professionals, but it is never a good idea to devalue the human factors in any success formula. The singular goal, then, would be to develop, position and refine content in such a way as to satisfy all visitors to the page and/or site, both human and bot alike.
- Adriano Gasparri
Building belonging is the secret to Open Source success - http://arstechnica.com/open-so...
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Ubuntu community manager Jono Bacon explained the importance of community building during a presentation at the Southern California Linux Expo.
- Adriano Gasparri
SEO 3.0 = Digital Asset Optimization - http://searchengineland.com/digital...
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Our industry rolls along at breakneck speed. We are peeking around the corner trying to get a glimpse of Web 3.0 and big brand marketers are certainly investing heavily in the digital assets that make your user experience more engaging. Problem is that the search engines are still firmly rooted in Web 1.0. At Agency.com we are constantly asked by our clients to build rich experiences, integrate video, design pageless interfaces, connect widgetry and find ways to blow your mind on behalf of global brand marketers. But how in the world do we make sure that the search engines can engage with this content?
- Adriano Gasparri
E se un "Web 3.0" non ci fosse, dietro l'angolo?
- Nicola D'Agostino
Twitter Changes Everything. The World Just Got Faster. - http://novaspivack.typepad.com/nova_sp...
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Yawn. Let's see how excited Nova gets when he discovers FF.
- Elias Torres
He's making a big claim here: "The payoff for using Twine is that it turns your data into knowledge and helps you track and discover content around your interests." Can anyone verify this "data into knowledge" functionality?
- V Mary Abraham
Evolving Our Understanding of Online Brand Conversation - http://threeminds.organic.com/2009...
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As marketing and sociology continue to collide, we're clearly witnessing the Cluetrain "markets are conversations" come to life. Social networks have enabled ubiquitous two-way communication between individuals and brands alike. How do we make sense of all the cacophony?
- Adriano Gasparri
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