FriendFeed should be faster again. We were had some network issues which caused a lot of slowness this past week, but I think it's fixed now. Let me know if you are still encountering any extreme slowness.
Mainly just had problems with email posting and the bookmarklet. The rest seemed fairly okay.
- Jason Huebel
I've been told that I'm extremely slow much of the time, but I don't think that's what you meant. Thanks for taking care of the issue, Paul.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
Meanwhile, Dad's kids with his new wife get what kind of toys?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, FriendFeed users have no reason to complain about our toys. And even if we did, bitterness doesn't help.
- Bruce Lewis
FriendFeed is dying for me. In fact. it's just about gone. I use it as a control room and discussion space for my Twitter feed, and a searchable archive. Discussion threads are down about 80 percent. "Likes" are off about 90 percent. There's no real time feed in from Twitter any more. Sad.
- Jay Rosen
Agreed, Jay. My personal life is in a bit of an upheaval right now, which hasn't helped, but the FB acquisition took the wind out of the sails for me. It feels like there's no future, or worse, a future wired up to the "friending" criteria of my Facebook account. I use the services COMPLETELY differently, however. Inbound updates continue, since they're automatic, but this is the first comment I've posted in weeks. Sad, indeed.
- Ken Kennedy
I am using Twitter and FB more and more lately. On the plus side, it's strengthening some real world connections. I'm missing out on the cool new stuff but I think I had gone overboard on that front.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I like FriendFeed, but I happen to find myself using Twitter and IRC more as of late. I guess I've probably just burnt myself and others out, given that I don't seem to have much in the way of compelling content and commentary these days, and that I just don't feel as motivated as I'd like to. :(
- Tyson Key
Thanks for throwing some love over to FF :)
- Susan Beebe
Is there currently an issue with posting from FF to update Facebook -or is Facebook broken after the re-design ? i dont get anything posted to FB anymore which worked fine before yd
- Del_
Hi Paul, I know it has been a while since this post. But over the last 48 hours my Twitter updates have quit showing up in FF. I tried manually refreshing. Then I removed the account so I could just add it back in. When trying to do that I get the following message: "We could not find the given account" I haven't changed anything. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I haven't had any trouble until now. Thanks.
- Mary-Lynn
My Twitter feed is coming into FF much faster now - thanks! *Edit - Blog feed, too!
- Kurt Starnes
Rational, Twitter usage is flattening, people are finally figuring out that Twitter sucks for having a conversation. People though Friendfeed was hard to use, try having to install several software 'crutches' to be able to use Twitter productively without even half the functionality as Freindfeed.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Either this is tounge in cheek or Robert really hasn't gotten over our breakup... Robert, I hope we can still be friends but we have to move on and grow... FriendFeed will always love you, but we need some 'us' time to find out who 'we' are... *cues The Bodygaurd soundtrack*... *walks out into the rain, adjusts collar, walks off down the road*... *fade to black, credits*
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Comment bait. Even Robert can't generate interest these days.
- Russellreno
I agree. Friendfeed is for those who need more from a 2d interface. Until there spatial interface is there, Friendfeed is on top of the pyramid (especially when one knows how to use it best).
- Kirill Bolgarov
Lets hope so ... Miss some of my old peeps :)
- Charlie Anzman
I'm surprised Robert made this statement but I find it very interesting in the change of view and wonder what has changed his mind or if he knows more info.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
The unpredictably erratic Scobot is at it again...
- Ciro
Well, after glancing at his Twitter timeline, he's just making a bunch of joke predictions. I'd like to think that there's some truth in this one though...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Sniffs... Do you smell that? It's what we used to call a troll. Robert is getting dangerously close to becoming irrelevent.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
Robert is waiting until 2010 to respond to this thread. :)
- Louis Gray
Scoble - I disagree ONLY because I think that FriendFeed activity is already migrating to Facebook via deeper integration over there but I'm wiling to hear you out (as are the other 40+ people commenting here). Do share why you think this is true?
- Aaron Strout
I wrote this tweet for Twitter, not for FriendFeed. But nice to see you all! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Jason: I'm definitely irrelevant if the people calling me irrelevant don't even have 1,000 subscribers. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I actually see FriendFeed growing instead of slowing and there will also be new enhancements. A testing ground for Facebook. Just to expand, Robert's still the man!
- amarquart
Akiva wins the internets with this mathematical formula for spotting comment bait.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
You think we're fighting, I think we're finally talking! -all in one page
- Tim Jones
Funny, when I write, I write for everyone, everywhere
- Johnny Worthington
@Jason Williams, wow that's the pot calling the kettle black, doncha think? Robert's not a troll.
- Jason Huebel
@Kol, somebody mentioned that those stats often only consider US visitors (why that would be, I don't know). FF's non-US contingent has grown tremendously, so that graph may not show the whole picture.
- Jason Huebel
I'm finding that FriendFeed is fiendishly sticky. On Twitter lists do help, they make twitter better and all but but but-but I think a lot of users are getting more sophisticated in their web usage faster than Twitter can evolve their tech. Louis Grey recently postulated that even if there is no interaction on FriendFeed it makes complete sense to stay riding this horse. That got me...
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- JSLeFanu
Dude..... I totally hope you're right, but not too sure about this! LOL Explain your rationale please :)
- Susan Beebe
i agree with the original prediction. by the way, what's a resurgence? is it different than insurgents? :-)
- Morgan Haley
Morgan - the insurgents never left ... ;-p
- Robyn Hawk
I'll stay one faithful user, for those "outside the US" stats. Still feature plenty, still enjoyable. Still effective. Thanks for rallying the troops again Robert. Bring the hopes, and forget the ropes! 8)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
34 secs flat for my latest tweet. Thanks Paul and team for this!
- Jorge Escobar
wow, that makes actually want to use Twitter. I may just go tweet something.
- Mike Nencetti
It should be even faster than that Jorge, but our systems are getting near their limit. I hope to have it down to 1 sec sometime next month.
- Paul Buchheit
Yay! That's fantastic! I was getting really bored of manually refreshing it every time I tweeted. Especially from my phone. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Does this mean that Scoble can get smarter on FriendFeed again?
- Crutis
You are still working on Frienfeed (: how nice !
- Murat Can Demir
^ That's probably the best part of this announcement, TBH. Good point
- LANjackal
from IM
whoa, it took less than a minute. i accdently tested it but it's great :) thnx
- asli subasi
awesome, keep it up guys, i knew you would not let us down
- Iggy Mwangi
Great news, love the efforts still put in to FF.I use Google Reader to share into FF (PubSubHubBub) then FF to Twitter (now Real-Time). The URL shortener is great (ff.im), and so FF is central to my social lifestream. I don't care what Scoble says, FF is technically better and feature-rich.
- Keith Rowland
P.S. Conversations are still better here than on GReader, and you just can't have one on Twitter.
- Keith Rowland
You didn't break the FF Facebook app while you were at it, did you? It hasn't worked since.
- Tim Tyler
Oh, awesome!!! 12 seconds :) I can finally go back to Twitter (...okay no I can't I've turned into a Friendfeed junkie..) but prior it took hours upon hours for me to see a feed. Dumb I am, I never suspected a problem LMAO.
- H0llywoodWh0re
Paul ?? Twitter updates facebook status and then facebook creates a new feed here on friendfeed. So we have same entries both from twitter and facebook on friendfeed. Could you guys please work on how we can avoid duplicate entries? Thank you. ( If there's already a way to avoid this, pls let me know)
- Murat Can Demir
Cool, thanks, Paul! :-) RT Twitter updates have been missed. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And just as I say that, I see my tweets are not coming into FF in real-time. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol. I just tweeted and it was here before I could get out of Tweetie and launch Safari... It's working :)
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Johnny, cool. Just me then. It's still slow. Maybe it's FriendFeed then?
- Kol Tregaskes
It truncates retweets, even in the middle of a link...
- Raphael, Raphael
seems that there are only 140chars allowed for a tweet (on FF) and the new twitter retweets are being translated on the way through to old RT @name style - thus are too long.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The best part? The video description "Thanks to the Norwegian Public Roads Administration for making this great video and sending it to me!"
- Jérôme Flipo
Who said the FriendFeed team wasn't working on new updates to FriendFeed?
- Jesse Stay
Hey Benjamin, do these go out as actual status updates on Facebook, or do they just get added to the stream (via stream.publish)? I think that makes a big difference on whether I install this or not (I removed Twitter awhile back because it was overwhelming my friends). Another option, which I know isn't available via the API yet, would be to set a preference on which friends or friend lists see the status updates. Then it wouldn't matter.
- Jesse Stay
stream.publish is used for all the API calls. Status updates (FriendFeed entries not made via the bookmarklet, Twitter entries, Google Talk, etc.) become status updates on Facebook. Things that aren't status updates (Google Reader shares, the bookmarklet, etc.) also use stream.publish but without the "message" parameter, just a link attachment (and thus aren't status updates on Facebook). Anything with images will have media attached as well
- Benjamin Golub
For make benefit glorious facebookistan.
- EricaJoy
Benjamin, any plans to enable the bookmarklet to update the Facebook status?
- Louis Gray
Louis: since the bookmarklet implies you are sharing a link, no. It still will be published to Facebook, just not as a status update :)
- Benjamin Golub
Sorry :). The "message" part of a status update is supposed to be the user's words. Most of the time when you are using the bookmarklet it's just the page's title. A work around is to just visit friendfeed.com and copy/paste the URL along with whatever you want as your status. That will become a Facebook status update.
- Benjamin Golub
I wish FriendFeed had a backwards compatible way for me to upload photos and share them. Their photo uploader thingy won't work through a proxy, so I can't share photos here. :(
- Otto
Something I am confused about is exactly which services will and will not be status updates. There are some that I would prefer not to become facebook status updates and some I am cool with. I am not cool with my twitter @replies becoming status updates, nor am I cool with things like Disqus or Backtype becoming one. Do you plan on adding some sort of preferences for users to be able to fine tune this?
- April Russo (app103)
agree with april would love to see some way that my @reply messages on twitter do not become my status messages on facebook
- (jeff)isageek
April: basically things that don't have a link (unless the link is *in* the message) are status updates. For example if you typed "check this out" and put a link in the box and hit post that is a status update. But if you shared using Google Reader or have a feed setup to pull in your blog posts those are not status updates.
- Benjamin Golub
OK, got it. Still would like to see some preferences similar to what is currently available for posting updates to twitter, to fine tune this and filter out @replies. I am likely to make all my friends and family on facebook quite angry if they start seeing all the fragmented conversations from twitter.
- April Russo (app103)
Sorry for Cross-Post but Ben seems active in answering here. So, currently today I have FriendFeed posts in a Tab and a Box in FB but not update my status info or post on my wall. Do I understand correct that I will no longer be able to sync in this way? That's truly a shame if that is the case, I do not want to flood my friends in FB with the stuff I post elsewhere, it's not fair to them.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Dude, I found that one out the hard way a couple weeks ago. It's total poo. Even after I removed my FB data from my FriendFeed, everything I did on the Internet kept dumping into my Facebook news feed. Acquisition fail?
- Jolie O'Dell
j'adore çà : "La difficulté des vieilles marques qui, pour les 15/24 ans, n’ont pas plus de légitimité qu’un blog"
- David Foucher
Idem. Et je l'entends un peu partout en ce moment. Je ne crois pas que ce soit l'ancienneté d'une marque qui soit le problème mais le push vs. pull marketing qui est utilisé pour la mettre en avant. C'est un signe d'intelligence de la nouvelle génération que de ne plus gober ce qu'on lui assène. Et les vieux l'évoquent comme catastrophe :(
- Jérôme Flipo
(28 photos) Excerpt: "In 1906 a Norwegian-Chilean whaling company set up a whaling station in the small bay just past Neptune's Bellows. This bay became known as Whaler's Bay. During the Great Depression however the whaling base was abandoned due the drop in oil demand and oil prices, increased oil drilling, new advancements in processing factories and other factors. Since it wasn't cost effective to bring supplies back to the mainland, most of the hardware, the boilers, and even the wooden dinghies were left behind." Click through to see the rest!
- Kevin Fox
Stephen, I'm glad you missed them.... or rather I'm glad you like them enough to miss them. They are back at least for a little while. There isn't a lot more to cover. But I think there are at least 6 more posts, maybe 7. They will be slow over the holidays but I think we will get at least the second half of this one out before xmas!! :)
- Rachel Lea Fox
the way to go is SRWare Iron - http://www.srware.net/en... - "SRWare Iron: The browser of the future - based on the free Sourcecode "Chromium" - without any problems at privacy and security"
- ovigia
finally, finally, Chrome for Mac beta is out!
- Xitong Liu
they scanned a biz card from a Android ... into an Address Book ,.
- johnpiercy
Looks like on the fly OCR, properly parsed into contact data. That is win.
- EricaJoy
Two weeks ago, my boss came back from a big event with 60+ visit cards. He had a scanner and a software. Guess what I suggested and then regretted? :)
- Jérôme Flipo
This feature will save a lot of time, for many users, and move many of them to Google Contacts.
- Jérôme Flipo
Richard, it's one possible use of the new Google Goggles product http://www.techcrunch.com/2009.... It recognize the text on visit cards and makes it useful. That's a pretty convincing application of Google's mission IMO.
- Jérôme Flipo
I was just thinking how much I would like smartphone OCR.
- Andrew C
If you have this installed on your Android phone, for fun go to Amazon and start taking pictures of book covers. Its nuts!
- EricaJoy
Erica, does it read the book in the language you want? What, not yet?! :)
- Jérôme Flipo
Another reason to get an androphone soon, very soon ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
When is the Iphone vers,,, I want NOW
- johnpiercy
I bet they'll merge this Goggles thing with the current iPhone app. If they release their branded phone with Google Nav and Goggles, I'll feel old school with my iPhone.
- Jérôme Flipo
Erica, the existing Amazon Android app does book covers. And so does the standalone app SnapTell. =)
- Andrew C
Just DL'ed from Android Market. Doesn't work all the time but very cool!
- Mike Reynolds
It's been hit and miss for me, but when I took a picture of a business card, it Goggles scanned it and gave me a list of the contact information just like the picture depicts. It messed up a couple of letters ("e" was "o", etc), but overall did a decent job. It /does not/ do facial recognition.
- Jason Huebel
Took a picture of a bag of potato chips and got some demon wicca sex blogs. But then took a picture of a coffee table art book that's just a figurative painting on cover and it correctly identified it as a Julian Schnabel book. Definitely entertaining but definitely labs level results.
- Hayes Haugen
Can't see it in the [Canadian] Market. Does it work with Android 1.5?
- Andrew C
Nope, 1.6 and newer. Turning into a trend.
- Hayes Haugen
Then Rogers *really* needs to get off their asses and release the 1.6 update.
- Andrew C
Ahhhh.so it's for people with crappy input devices ;-). One day will people have forgotten how to type. It's a good idea. We'll see when they make it available to all platforms.
- Richard A.
If a device hasn't been updated to 1.6 already I don't think it's likely it ever will be. Everyone has their hands full with 2.0.1.
- Hayes Haugen
Ergh, maybe I'll just root the phone then. =P
- Andrew C
"The new features will be rolling out in the next few days and will be available globally in English. You can try them out today by visiting http://www.google.com/trends and clicking on a 'hot topic,' which in most cases will bring you to a search results page with the new real-time feature."
- Tom Stocky
"Of course, none of this would be possible without the support of our new partners that we're announcing today: Facebook, MySpace, FriendFeed, Jaiku and Identi.ca — along with Twitter, which we announced a few weeks ago."
- Paul Buchheit
Yep. They shouldn't put the "already existing" results in motion. Fortunately, Friendfeed doesn't move down each updates one by one every time you refresh a page :)
- Jérôme Flipo
The number one Hot Topic is "google real time search."
- aldenoneil
Yes Jerome, I agree and lots of people are telling the same in the last months. But I still prefer the GREAT contents which I cant find anywhere else.
- Luca Gianneramo
Sure, but what if Friendfeeders were (silently) moving to Facebook to share their content? I would subscribe to my favorite FF friends there and actually start using my account.
- Jérôme Flipo
I think I could use Twitter to distribute links but right now, I just can't follow or participate in discussion there.
- Jérôme Flipo
In fact I cant use Twitter to distribute link: there's no way to really create a discussion and share opinions. That's why FF is better to me. Regarding FB: I cant imagine the average FF user moving to FB to share stuff. With who? Come on... :P
- Luca Gianneramo
The point to me is that here (at least regarding the Italian users in general) discussions' level is decreasing: more jokes, less serious stuff. But it's still a clever, intelligent way to get fun.
- Luca Gianneramo
Luck Italians http://friendfeed.com/bret...! There's very little activity among French users, now. And people I found extremely interesting have somewhat abandoned the ship, even though they drop a comment every now and then :(
- Jérôme Flipo
And my internship let me very little time for sharing content and participate in discussions. I'm sure the best days of FF are far behind now, whatever the Facebook teams is preparing.
- Jérôme Flipo
Thanks for the chart, very interesting (I knew in Turkey FF is widespread). Anyway, even here a few of users (the so-called "stars") left this networ in the last months.
- Luca Gianneramo
My stars are more tech/science/media innovators than entertainers, and they do have retired :( Unfortunately, we didn't migrate to one service, and we're scattered between Reader, Twitter and Facebook, and none of these places can host conversation.
- Jérôme Flipo
Here they are above all bloggers (which moved to the social networks in the last years).
- Luca Gianneramo
For tech stuff, Reddit gives me a daily shot of great content and comments, but it isn't as social as FF, and very geeky.
- Jérôme Flipo
what do you mean by "a la friendfeed"? I have an idea about where you're leading to, just need confirmation
- lelapin
BTW, have you seen some interesting threads in Wave? Oh, and are you there??
- Jérôme Flipo
Me, Jerome? Yes, I'm in there, but I use Wave for my job (it's GREAT for it), not as a social network. To me it's not and it wont be a SN.
- Luca Gianneramo
lelapin until now I've only used Facebook to share personal stuff to real-life friends. 95% of my home stream is made of friends' photos and status updates. Pushing public and serious content may be perceived as spamming by my friends, right now :)
- Jérôme Flipo
I agree with Jerome regarding the "spam issue" on FB. Moreover to me that's not the target for serious discussions. It's sad, but I talk about cultural level...
- Luca Gianneramo
There's definitly a lack of a tool, be that on Facebook or Friendfeed for that matter, that would allow one to adjust the 'volume' one would accept to get from one's friends. This said 'spam' might be too strong a word for something coming from one's friends, don't think? It is like unsollicited e-mail, is it?
- lelapin
Oh cool, Luca! But I hope you'll manage to use it for work and leisure, if it takes off.
- Jérôme Flipo
Absolutely, lelapin. But most of my friends don't differentiate spam from bacn :)
- Jérôme Flipo
I use it basically to share articles like I do on FF or Twitter. Now I don't expect much comments from there and I try not to engage in conversations on FB knowing nothing can be synched and agregated outside FB which is THE problem I have with FB. Other than that, I have several pages there since it is admitedly the most popular platform these days.
- lelapin
Meh. No one answered my question: "who's using Facebook à la Friendfeed?"
- Jérôme Flipo
Read a couple of comments above please, I asked you what you meant by "a la friendfeed"
- lelapin
From my experience, à la Friendfeed = "pushing public and serious content" while the Facebook style consists in "sharing personal stuff to real-life friends".
- Jérôme Flipo
in that regard I use Facebook a la Friendfeed. Twitter is actually the platform I favour for, like you worded it, pushing serious content by mostly retweeting. Whenever I come across something, be that originally from a tweet or other sources, I generally Tumblr it, Stumble upon it, Digg it, [insert all kind of SN] it and, because I wired Facebook and Friendfeed so as to allow...
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- lelapin
Jérôme : I try more and more to use facebook like you describe that. Many reasons push me to do so : I have more and more non-IRL friends there (even my next employer...), and I also see more and more senior people there who are more likely to use fb in a serious way.
- Stanislas Jourdan
For the moment it is still (too) quiet on my wall, but sometimes there are some good discussions still. I believe that more and more people will engage discussions there, but the shift will be very slow.
- Stanislas Jourdan
However, people like you who want to have great discussion on your favorite topics, i'm afraid will be disappointed for a long time... Wave might be a better place for that IMO.
- Stanislas Jourdan
Indeed. I just need a way to push Facebook updates only to some people (and better policies, and better interface, and better content aggregation functions, and....). I think "group updates" is already available to US-based users (meanwhile, we have "groups" where you can set up a visibility level to your content).
- Jérôme Flipo