I imagine Oprah at Her computer, Her staff huddled around breathlessly. They stand rapt, watching Oprah type (Is there ANYTHING She cannot do?). She sends Her tweet, and a collective gasp of amazement is heard, even on the floor above. Some even weep softly. A staff photographer captures the moment for O Magazine, as She beams proudly. "New cars for everyone!", She says. The applause is deafening.
- Stan Scott
Here's what comes up: 1) A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality, 2) Homosexuality (fiction and nonfiction) 3) You Don't Have to Be Gay 4) For The Bible Tells Me So 5) Can Homosexuality Be Healed? WE MUST PROTEST THIS!
- Stan Scott
An update on Anika's last message. It was a policy change. Then it became a "glitch". Now it's a "ham-fisted cataloguing error".
- Stan Scott
Um...if it was a glitch? why is the same search still returning the same results?
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
wtf Amazon? Paging Jeff Bezos, paging Jeff Bezos.
- Dave Hodson
Many people out there believe that Amazon "fixed" the problem (or whatever), case closed. It isn't.
- Stan Scott
I'd love to have the option in Friendfeed to filter out Twitted messages. These 140 character messages are often useless here, and don't result in interesting discussions.
It's been glaringly obvious to me this week that Amazon is not really interested in communicating with its customers and sellers. In a world that increasingly uses social media to question, learn and exchange information, it no longer seems valid to use press releases and mainstream media as your only means of communicating.
- Stan Scott
Jeff Bezos hit the road to trumpet the new Kindle. He's given magazine interviews in the past, on a wide variety of topics. This week, however, he was MIA. If anyone considers #amazonfail not important enough for the attention of a CEO, well, let's agree to disagree. My feeling, though, is that a company can't have it both ways -- they can't be "open" about their own products and goals, but rely on press releases when events like this happen.
- Stan Scott
I don't believe that Amazon is unique in this way, by any means. For example, I love Apple products, and greatly admire Steve Jobs at the helm. I am aware, though, that Apple carefully controls its information stream, and the "info in / info out" ratio is lopsided. Though I have to say, Steve Jobs and Apple have handled negative news and situations far more skillfully than Amazon has.
- Stan Scott
I use the word "experts" inclusively to stand for any consultant, writer, whatever, involved in social media. The word may be "ham-fisted", but I can't think of another one.
- Stan Scott
From my possibly limited point of view, there hasn't been enough commentary and discussion for this week's phenomenon. There are probably private discussions and sites I'm not aware of, so this might be untrue, but yesterday, Jay Rosen (NYU) tweeted something to this effect (if I misunderstood, I apologize here to Mr. Rosen).
- Stan Scott
Even the "guru" Clay Shirky, tweeted that he "came late to the party". But why wasn't there more?
- Stan Scott
One factor is this: to many companies, the #amazonfail event will reflect very negatively on social media. This is unfair, of course, because Amazon so mishandled this whole affair. To me, #amazonfail stands for this: any company using social media has to support communication that goes both ways. If they don't, sites like Twitter and Facebook are just advertising/informational pages, and really no different from a company web page. A lot of the stuff I'm seeing on Facebook is nothing more than this.
- Stan Scott
I question, though, whether a lot of companies, especially larger ones, are ready to do this. If you work for a lot of smaller companies, especially in tech, you'll certainly find open, friendly companies, that really do want to do this. But a lot of companies don't really want this, in my opinion.
- Stan Scott
This is the kind of analysis that I want to look to professional social media people to provide. I'm sure they could do a far better job than I have here. As I said at the beginning, I know my viewpoint is possibly limited, because I don't know where to go or what to read. Any links or other information anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. I want to learn more.
- Stan Scott
Whether or not you agree with Clay Shirky that this Amazon situation was just a lot of overblown emotion, it's a watershed event for Twitter. Many authors have come forward and detailed their problems with Amazon delisting, one as early as January 2008. On Easter weekend, Twitter sparked and blazed, and Amazon responded. Whether or not you agree that Amazon has gone far enough, it's hard to deny the impact of the medium.
- Stan Scott
It's a valid question, though, as to whether, once Twitter sparked the change, it was productive through the week. Many people exchanged good information and links. There was also a great deal of emotional spewing, trolling and inadvertent miscommunication. The problem isn't that Twitter isn't "moderated" -- the problem, I think is that 140 character limitation.
- Stan Scott
Twitter has proven to be great for getting people together to bring about change, but it's no place for reasoned discussion and full exchanges. Even if you want to do this, you just can't, using 140 character bursts.
- Stan Scott
Other forms of social media, blogs, informational web sites, sites like this one, and mainstream media stepped forward. This is where the real fires are burning.
- Stan Scott
One more thought. A lot of us thought that it was weird that after Shirky's article came out, a great number of people tweeted on this, using #amazonfail, who had never posted about it before. It's perfectly okay to do this, of course. I did find yesterday, however, a web page that was set up for one purpose -- to do a "Shirky" post to Twitter and a web site. An hour or so after I tweeted this, the page was gone. There were probably other sites like this. See next comment.
- Stan Scott
Am I claiming there was some "conspiracy" or other? Not at all. I bring this up to show how easy it can be to "game the system" -- lots of posts, from different people, might give the illusion that some point of view is more widespread than it really is. Twitter isn't unique in this regard.
- Stan Scott
A lot of people want an Amazon apology on their Web site, not necessarily because they're "bad", but because there's been so much confusion and speculation. A lot of that, maybe most of it, could have been prevented, if Amazon had really communicated with people.)
- Stan Scott
Though it might seem extreme for Amazon to do this, remember that Jeff Bezos made just such an apology on Amazon.com's home page, for not selling enough Kindles.
- Stan Scott
I tried unsuccessfully to link to my Facebook account. (I have a lot of company here.) Now, I ask myself why bother? Facebook now has very intrusive ads, and all of their help seems devoted to Applications (why not install another?). I'm not happy with Facebook right now.
- Stan Scott
Yesterday, I received an email from Amazon explaining the "embarrassing and ham-fisted cataloging error. At the bottom of the email under "Sai Kiran, Amazon.com" was this "We're Building Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company". It was missing from an Amazon email someone else received today.
- Stan Scott
Amazon explained that "it impacted 57,310 books in a number of broad categories such as Health, Mind & Body, Reproductive & Sexual Medicine, and Erotica." Aren't these the areas that the religious right have been trying to interfere with for years now?
- Stan Scott
If this were really a "cataloging error", why were all of the gay books delisted, but not the ANTI-gay books? Wouldn't they BOTH bear the label "Sexuality"?
- Stan Scott
Amazon obviously didn't think anyone would really care. To bad they got caught in the act.
- Michael Forian
If Amazon doesn't relist ALL of its gay-related books, I'm taking my book dollars elsewhere, even if it costs a little more. Paying an "Amazon Tax" means keeping my freedom to choose.
Amazon is stripping gay books of their sales rankings, under their new policy of "excluding 'adult' material included in some of their searches and best seller lists." See Mark Probst's site: http://markprobst.livejournal.com/15293...
Unacceptable. I for one won't be purchasing from Amazon until they fix this.
- Louis Simoneau
I tried to call Amazon directly using their customer number, 800-201-7575. After many minutes, they told me to go to an Amazon page, press Help at the top right and then click the Contact Us button. I spent many more minutes trying to make the person understand I wanted to register my complaint, with no success, and finally asked to speak to a supervisor. At that point, they cut me off completely
- Stan Scott
In Will's February 15 column, "Dark Green Doomsayers", he cited a study by the "University of Illinois’ Arctic Climate Research Center" saying that global sea ice levels are equal to those in 1979. In fact, there is NO such organization.
- Stan Scott
Here's an experiment. Just now, I did a TweetDeck search on "Twitter search is broken". I counted 128 SEPARATE tweets made TODAY. Some add a bit more text, but most do not, content to post this text exactly. This is Twitter.
He says "President Obama, Why Don't You Just Set Us On Fire?" It it were Beck under that gasoline can, I'd gladly hand him the match.
- Stan Scott
What's the use of automatically routing copies of all Twitter postings here? I get everything twice, and bare Twitter postings aren't very interesting -- good points need to be fleshed out. Don't they just become spam in Friendfeed?