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hey, I am looking for this paper: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed.... Please send to pjsaez at gmail.com. Thanks !!
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- Graham Steel
Hi, can anyone access Canadian Journal of Zoology and get http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi... for me? Thanks a lot!
no dice with my options. sorry.
- Graham Steel
No access. Sorry
- Carola Staedele
Nope.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Looking for this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed.... Please send to carola at neurobiologie dot de. Thanks in advance.
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- Graham Steel
Thank you very much :)
- Carola Staedele
Hi, i'm looking for Cross-species comparison of site-specific evolutionary-rate variation in influenza haemagglutinin http://rstb.royalsocietypublis... Thanks in advance.
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- Graham Steel
I have access; where should I sent this one ?
- Khader Shameer
"Remarkable Growth of Open Access in the Biomedical Field: Analysis of PubMed Articles from 2006 to 2010" http://www.plosone.org/article...
Kubke, maʀtha and Yo Joe. No, go slow. liked this
"The main survey concluded that the OA rate increased significantly between 2006 and 2010: the OA rate in 2010 (50.2%) was twice that in 2006 (26.3%)". An OA rate of ~50% seems a tad on the optimistic side...
- Graham Steel
if they limit to the US, maybe not, because of PMC. Worldwide, yeah, that seems unlikely.
- RepoRat
I haven't read through in detail but I think what they tested was whether a PubMed article was accessible online in 2012 so on that 50% seems plausible. Combination of IRs, PMC, and journals probably does add up. But I want to look a lot closer at their methodology.
- Cameron Neylon
Thanks for the comments....
- Graham Steel
DOAJ
Bill Hooker liked this
A project I'm currently working on is sounding out various OA orgs etc. for materials to put into our delegate packs for http://www.edinpubconf.net/index... Positive response from pretty much everyone I contacted over the weekend. We have about 150 packs to fill.
- Graham Steel
Unrelated, back in 2007, I contacted DOAJ for the 1st time who shipped me about 800 of the above flyers. I distributed most of them at a Conference later that year (cue http://sennoma.net/?p=663 ) but the ones I have left are out of date (in a good way) as I have hand scribbled.
- Graham Steel
The good news is, having contacted the fine folks at DOAJ a few days ago, it just so happens I caught them at the right time and they had just started the process of producing new flyers etc. the day before my email to them. Hopefully, they will be ready in time for our event (YAY) and folks at large.
- Graham Steel
Apologies for the shit photo quality. Digital camera won't speak to the PC anymore so can only use my phone.
- Graham Steel
Looking for The Creative Personality: A Synthesis and Development of the Creative Person Profile
DOI:
10.1080/10400419.2011.595656 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi... pls mail to sandygautam@yahoo.com
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- Graham Steel
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- vladimir orduna
Looking for: Metabolism of Loratadine and Further Characterization of Its In Vitro Metabolites, http://www.eurekaselect.com/93528... pls mail to first dot lastname at gmail
no Athens log-in. no access.
- Graham Steel
Thanks for checking!
- Egon Willighagen
Sorry, me neither. *bump*
- Bill Hooker
"Experts disagree on whether cost of publishing research will fall, as #openaccess grows, MPs hear" #BISOA
O'Dowd et al.pdf 148 KB
Seb Schmoller, John Dupuis, Björn Brembs and Yo Joe. No, go slow. liked this
Y'know, reading that--esp. Alma Swan's comments--I realized that "Kick it down the road a decade or so" is the theme song of Green OA, and I don't know whether academic/spedial libraries can survive the "EVENTUALLY subscription costs might, maybe, perhaps go down" scenario.
- Walt Crawford
Should that be speeddial libraries or special libraries? I like the former.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I meant special libraries, but speeddial libraries--"Just call 1-800-ELSEVIER and your budget allocation worries are all gone!"--might work as well.
- Walt Crawford
(not to slight Wiley and such smaller charmers as Sage, Emerald and ACS...)
- Walt Crawford
Oh I do like the way I've been selectively quoted there...no mention at all of "...prices will go down."
- Cameron Neylon
There's been a disagreeable (to me) tendency in the OA-sphere to gloss over the question of loss of publisher profits. It doesn't take a PhD in economics to see the difference between the pseudo-monopoly nature of a subscription system in which journals are economic complements (if your field is Bollocks, you must subscribe to both J. Bollocks and Proc. Nat. Assoc. Bollocks) and the...
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- Bill Hooker
Bill: I hear what you're saying, and you know that some of us (ahem) with relatively small voices have been addressing this issue.
- Walt Crawford
The title of O'Dowd's article in the BMJ is certainly not fully reflective of what was discussed during the ~3 hour hearing which I watched the other day. If you have too much time on yer hands, here it is... http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main...
- Graham Steel
Moreover, I don't think O'Dowd et al has much experience in this territory, if any http://www.bmj.com/about-b...
- Graham Steel
For those that are interested, my interview with campus radio about Open Access is here: http://chrynews.wordpress.com/2013...
Björn Brembs, Graham Steel and Yo Joe. No, go slow. liked this
It's longish at 20+ minutes. Apparently they got good feedback on the interview, so that's nice.
- John Dupuis
Listening....
- Graham Steel
Yay - a good shout out about the OLH https://www.openlibhums.org/
- Graham Steel
Good job. 100% agreed with what you said and didn't find it "too heavy" in any way.
- Graham Steel
Thanks. Maggie was fun to work with. She interviewed me a few months ago about Aaron Swartz and as she mentions this was kind of a sequel to that.
- John Dupuis
Anybody have access to this http://www.tandfonline.com/doi... ? Thanks!! mail: organelas AT gmail
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- Graham Steel
I'm looking for an older paper: John C. Guese: Nazi technical thought revisited, it was published in History and Technology, Vol 26, Issue 1, in 2010. DOI: 10.1080/07341510903545557 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi... And it resurfaced in the Tim Wu - Evgeny Morozov dispute. keltoman@gmail.com Thx!
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- Graham Steel
Thank you!
- Ádám Szedlák
Looking for: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi... please to davidcastrog@gmail.com Thanks in advance!
No access, sorry.
- Heather
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- Graham Steel
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- vladimir orduna
Got it. Thanks, everyone.
- David Castro
Re Mendeley/Elsevier one area I don't see being discussed in twitter stream etc, is that this buys Elsevier proprietary Intelligence. What Mendeley reveals in their Open API is only a tiny amount of their total data. It isn't click stream or highlighting or fine grained demographics etc. This means that Mendeley gives Elsevier a competitive...
Kubke, Kaan Öztürk, Garret McMahon and 12 other people liked this
advantage on what scholars do and how they do it. People are talking about whether Mendeley will treat all publishers equally like Scopus does... there is a difference. Scopus is built on citations, which anyone could in theory get with enough money. With Mendeley, Elsevier gets workflow information, and no other publishers get that. It is a smart move for them, but a blow to people who think that propping up Elsevier is not best for the industry.
- Heather Piwowar
yes. please write that blog post.
- RepoRat
Will try but no time today. Someone else free free to beat me to it, no need for attribution.
- Heather Piwowar
the way things have worked before, a given aggregator only had access to individual user behavior related to their own publications, and not even always (library proxy servers protect people to some extent). Now Elsevier knows what every Mendeley user is reading and saving; they may even know some of where Mendeley users *get* what they read and save. if that doesn't seem worrisome to people, they weren't paying attention to the Attributor thing.
- RepoRat
link to Attributor thing?
- Heather Piwowar
http://scientopia.org/blogs... and http://scientopia.org/blogs... I think Elsevier would LOVE to peg Mendeley users who aren't clearly downloading via library or toll-gate access mechanisms.
- RepoRat
Even if they are, the shared groups (which I'll admit to having been one to encourage for cross campus collab) means all the researchers then have access.
- Hedgehog
But doesn't this mean they're going to start getting sued like whoa? I mean, it was my understanding that Mendeley's provision of (some of?) this data to the publishers was one of the only reasons they weren't already getting sued like whoa.
- Meg V. Meg
Bjoern Brembs says http://bjoern.brembs.net/comment...
- Graham Steel
Meg, I hadn't heard that. Got linky? Because that's a reeeeeeally interesting angle.
- RepoRat
Hard to stop thinking about Mendeley-as-elsevier-loyalty-card for data collection. I'm not thinking about it wrt subscription enforcement, but rather as intelligence for future Elsevier product innovations. Future product innovations that help Elsevier as priority #1 and scholarship and open scholarship with the same priority Elsevier has previously shown.
- Heather Piwowar
Is Meg referring to something like what Jason Hoyt mentioned this moring? http://enjoythedisruption.com/post...
- Hedgehog
And now VictorH says http://paidcontent.org/2013...
- Graham Steel
Heather, regarding the insight available through the API and user activity. Imagine Elsevier was out of the picture, what would you say if Mendeley used it to do the same for itself. Develop and innovate on features that it had exclusive insight to, toward its own advancement?
- Ricardo Vidal
I'd be ok with that. I've been assuming that's what you've been doing till now.
- Heather Piwowar
So, following that logic, because you see Elsevier as evil, you consider that they'll certainly use the same tools to their advantage. Which is therefore bad.
- Ricardo Vidal
Suber chimes in - https://plus.google.com/u...
- Graham Steel
I don't consider Elsevier evil. I consider them interested entirely in their own bottom line and very demonstrably willing to make decisions that are not in the best interest of science to defend and promote it. I don't want to help them do that with papers, my review hours, or my click data.
- Heather Piwowar
as somebody said recently in a different context, if you're using their products when you have a choice, then you are funding their work. Unfortunately, academic libraries don't have much choice when it comes to subscribing to the journals, but we do have a choice of citation management platforms
- DJF
from Android
So we've talked about the enforcement angle and they understand this would be a really dumb thing to try to do. They want us more as a application platform since the whole Sciverse Apps thing didn't go all that well.
- Mr. Gunn
Thanks for the feedback Heather. I see your point and can only hope that we can keep doing our good work and proving Mendeley a valuable tool and resource for researchers.
- Ricardo Vidal
We've so far been successful with the approach that Open Access papers are read more, but if all the OA advocates leave Mendeley, then it's going to be hard to keep making that case. Having a strong OA community *within* Mendeley is really important and I hope people will stick around to show them that.
- Mr. Gunn
soooo... instead we should implicitly say "Elsevier sucks except when they own something we like?" That's a stance I personally am kinda uncomfortable with. Like PSuber, tho, have never been a Mendeley user, so easy for me to say -- I'll just chug right along with Zotero the way I've been doing.
- RepoRat
yes, but having good quality data accepted by even the most conservative groups showing the OA advantage certainly helps, and that's what Mendeley can provide
- Mr. Gunn
well, there will be less data on OA papers, less people doing interesting OA-related things with the data, etc. That's why I think people should stay. Just picking up your toys and going home is the easy way out.
- Mr. Gunn
Sure, if we were children, and if this were a game. However, "if you're using their products when you have a choice, then you are funding their work"
- Meg V. Meg
And if I trusted Elsevier with the kind of data I would put into Mendeley. Here's the thing: I DON'T. That's not entirely Elsevier's fault (MIT and JSTOR and Attributor and Facebook own some of the blame, among others)... but I don't think Elsevier has exactly covered itself with glory, either, and it's *crystal* clear which financial side of the bread is buttered. Do I trust Elsevier to resist temptation for the sake of ethics? THEY HIRED ERIC DEZENHALL FFS. No. I don't.
- RepoRat
So I'm glad that Mr. Gunn and Ricardo Vidal think Elsevier will do right by all this, and I think *they* believe that; I don't believe they're trying to blow smoke up FF's collective arse. I just... don't believe that will remain the case. Temptation much too great. Elsevier won't fsck up tomorrow, or the day after... but they'll fsck up. Guarandamnteed.
- RepoRat
Elsevier is a big big place. I wish I could quote to you from the email I just got from some people within Elsevier promising their support in helping us make a business case for openness - saying they're our allies, but acknowledging that a huge organization like this isn't all going to be aligned internally.
- Mr. Gunn
I got some great email about a global text mining plan too. Many people there really believed it. There was a time and a place and a scheduled tweetup. Plug got pulled.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
no organization is immune from having plans canceled
- Mr. Gunn
I agree. Though it wasn't a passive "plans were cancelled". Someone at Else cancelled the plans because they were too liberal/edgy/threatening even though had all sign offs till the day before. I just share that story to say we all know great email doesn't always work out.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
Fair enough. Just pointed it out to show some nuance beyond the "everyone at Elsevier is evil and eats puppies" narrative extant. I have a feeling the task is even bigger than I realize, but that can't stop me from trying, and that really shouldn't stop you from supporting me, either.
- Mr. Gunn
I'll try really hard not to take the quote "everyone at Elsevier is evil and eats puppies" out of context when I cite it in my next paper. :-)
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I haven't seen that narrative on this thread. I'm trying hard to figure out a good way to support you that is consistent with what I believe, because I want to support you William Gunn :)
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
I support you, man. I just think they're gonna fuck you over, and it makes me sad. I do not want them to do that.
- RepoRat
I do recognize the possibility, but I have to give it a shot.
- Mr. Gunn
Salon commented here: Elsevier: All your data belongs to us http://www.salon.com/2013... via @Salon
- WarLord
"some people within Elsevier promising their support in helping us make a business case for openness" Yes, and I'm sure all the hundreds of trillions of bacteria living in/on Hannibal Lecter and all his trillions non-neuronal cells were all nice and friendly - if only it wasn't for the measly 70-90b of neurons in his skull... Quite likely, the large majority of people working at...
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- Björn Brembs
I honor your efforts, Mr. Gunn. They remind me no little of my own vis-a-vis the libraries I've worked in.
- RepoRat
This post captures Heather's sentiment, I think: http://www.salon.com/2013...
- Björn Brembs
Maybe I will try my hand at a timeline of blog posts kinda like what John D does.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Mendeley may want to look at the fate of BioMedNet, sold to Elsevier by the Current Science Group in 1998 and shelved in 2004: http://newsbreaks.infotoday.com/nbreade...; http://www.sarahgreene.net/past-pr...
- Matt Hodgkinson
Wow, I haven't been back here in ages. Been trying to sort out my own thoughts on this...and I don't think I have a clear answer. I have a Mendeley account, I use it for a bunch of things including feeding the bibliography on my blog, and I haven't deleted it yet. Matt's point is the one that troubles me, Elsevier do have a history of running things into the ground. On the other hand it...
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- Cameron Neylon
...but there is another side to this which is that I know some of those cancelled projects of which Heather speaks and they had lots of those good people in them. So I worry about the inverse problem. What will happen to those people who have been on the inside working for change (and being shafted from time to time) now that there is a new shiny Open thing, both as the beacon everyone...
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- Cameron Neylon
Like Cameron, I haven't made my mind up yet. Personally, I don't intend to delete my Mendeley account at present.
- Graham Steel
"It was the destruction of BioMedNet that meant Vitek could hire a bunch of people to create BMC." So I should be grateful to Elsevier for my career :)
- Matt Hodgkinson
I also remember when Elsevier bought the Beilstein database, and they have since greatly marked up access to that data. 1998 and 2007 were key years of that. http://www.elsevier.com/about... This is kinda similar.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
fwiw, i posted on it here: http://scientopia.org/blogs... I'm pretty pragmatic when it comes to this sort of thing. It's not my primary reference manager (RefWorks is, sigh), but I intend to keep my account.
- Christina Pikas
I also intend to keep my account, so that I can keep on putting stuff into the OA Irony Award group. A good bit of it from Elsevier.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
(Slightly offtopic: here in this conversation we see what we lost when FF took a nosedive. This thread is better than all the scattered tweets and news links put together. I'm thinking it's time to re-invest in FF, since the sky hasn't actually fallen (I was a Chicken Little myself)...)
- Bill Hooker
Good call. I'm in.
- Graham Steel
Something slightly ironic about returning because its back to a smaller group of people though...
- Cameron Neylon
"Hate" to say it - but other than monitoring Refs Wanted Room, FF is a dead donkey for me and has been for quite a while. Other than Libranians, it's a ghost town to what it was in the past.Twitter & Google+ for moi.
- Graham Steel
Have to admit I saw a link to Heather's post and thought "oh yes, Friendfeed, I remember when I went there..."But it is still here and functioning clearly which is interesting in itself. There must be some measure of maintenance and upkeep going on behind the scenes.
- Cameron Neylon
y'all should come back. Nothing else is as good.
- Heather Piwowar
Yeah, it's still pretty awesome and unlike anything out there.
- Ricardo Vidal
It remains the best. Reminds me of my empeg :-) http://www.empeg.com/
- Björn Brembs
Cameron, it's good to read your thoughts here. It's a good point also about BMC, which is itself now a part of Springer. I hope FF is still here 4 years from now when open access is the default and everyone realizes this ;-)
- Mr. Gunn
I've just blogged about Elsevier's emerging workflows here. http://www.darkrepository.net/blog... Scopus a big winner IMO.
- Garret McMahon
Can anyone access aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/139/4/402.full.pdf? It's fairly old :-( poubella.junk at gmail, pls.
Also seeking http://aapgrandrounds.aappubli... - thanks!
- Heather
And http://journals.lww.com/co-pedi... ...
- Heather
#1 sent - no dice on #2
- Graham Steel
Thank you, Graham!
- Heather
I see you've sneaked in #3 - also sent.
- Graham Steel
Very interesting. Well spotted. A very brazen approach !!
- Graham Steel
Need "Honey as a source of dietary antioxidants: structures, bioavailability and evidence of protective effects against human chronic diseases." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed... or http://www.eurekaselect.com/106819... Please send to: t dot khan at ucl.ac.uk
My thoughts on Mendeley/Elsevier & why I left to start PeerJ http://enjoythedisruption.com/post...
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Very interesting post by Jason Hoyt following the announcement overnight that Mendeley have been aquired by Elsevier.
- Graham Steel
Looking for: Dougherty (1955) Systematic Zoology 4:145-169. http://sysbio.oxfordjournals.org/content.... (please send to email in profile)
no access this time....
- Graham Steel
Thanks anyway, you helped me so many times.
- Joachim
Got it. Will send.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Brilliant, thanks.
- Joachim
Hi, I'm looking for these two: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science... and http://www.sciencedirect.com/science... please send to isolde @ freeblog.hu
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- Graham Steel
thanks!!
- isoldekovacs
Looking for: Untargeted metabolic profiling reveals potential biomarkers in myocardial infarction and its application http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed... Please send to shameer at ncbs dot res dot in Thanks !
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- Graham Steel
Fun! My paper with @tjvision is @thePeerJ preprint #1 :) https://peerj.com/preprints/1/
Kubke, Björn Brembs, Graham Steel and 5 other people liked this
I will admit to stalking the @thePeerJ site a little till the preprint "Submit" button appeared. To each their own fun :)
- Heather Piwowar
One is most amused by your comment, Heather. "Well done for being number one" !!!!
- Graham Steel
Looking for: Dawson, Kevin J. (1995) J. Theoretical Biology 176:341-347. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science... (send to email in profile, thx).
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- Graham Steel
Thank you so much.
- Joachim
Edwin Mellen Press has a new parody Twitter account: @EddyMellenPress. Whoever's doing it is having fun with it.
Angel R. Rivera, Heather Piwowar, Betsy #TeamMonique and 12 other people liked this
(and no, it's not me, and no, I don't know who it is.)
- RepoRat
it is making my day.
- Marie
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA omg. They added me to a Twitter "librarians-to-sue" list because I followed the account. I tweeted "I'm an ex-librarian. Don't sue me bro!" Their response: "It's OK -- I'll have Amanda sue your estate." Seriously, this all sounds SUSPICIOUSLY like LSW humor. Don't out yourself on this thread because it's public, but damn, if it's you I would love to know.
- RepoRat
And many of us are on their list of librarians to sue: https://twitter.com/EddyMel...
- John Dupuis
Hey, Graham's on the list too. Honorary librarians, too, I guess.
- John Dupuis
Yep, just noticed....
- Graham Steel
Proud to say I'm on their list, too. I did note the URL from the Twitter account's profile suggests the mastermind might be in the UK: https://www.google.co.uk/search... ETA: I can confirm that I am not currently in the UK.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Being UK based, I confirm it's not me.
- Graham Steel
I'm offended: I'm not on the list. Who can I sue?
- Walt Crawford
I'm now dead sure that @EddyMellenPress is a librarian or other person working in libraries, not a garden-variety academic. Latest tweet was about whether a class-action lawsuit against ALA would prevent the press from exhibiting in Chicago...
- RepoRat
C informs me that the (real) EMP was at the Shakespeare Association of America conference last week; I regret not getting him up to speed on this debacle before he went.
- Catherine Pellegrino
man, i should set up a fake booth at ACRL. i could have so much fun...
- jambina
dayumm. wonder if we can figure out their travel sked?
- RepoRat
nothing current, but we may be able to extrapolate from http://client.marketmailer.co.uk/new...
- RepoRat
They aren't on the list for ACRL13, I just checked. The list for Annual 2013 isn't out yet.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I broke their consultants to sue cherry. bam!
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
Looks like they attend lots of little conferences and very few big ones, and pretty much no library conferences.
- Walt Crawford
Well, they may be crazy, but they're not dumb.
- Catherine Pellegrino
... actually, they kind of are.
- RepoRat
daniel dot bourrion at gmail dot com Looking for Zhou H, Janghra N - Novel Morpholino Oligomer Targeting ISS-N1 Improves Rescue of Severe Spinal Muscular Atrophy Transgenic Mice. Hum Gene Ther. 2013 Mar;24(3):331-42. doi: 10.1089/hum.2012.211. Epub 2013 Mar 6. PubMed PMID: 23339722 many thx
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- Graham Steel
Looking for Genetic Variants Contribute to Gene Expression Variability in Humans http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed... Please send to shameer at ncbs dot res dot in
no Athens log-in. no access.
- Graham Steel
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- Eszter Szalai
Looking for http://rd.springer.com/chapter... Please send to shameer at ncbs dot res dot in
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- Graham Steel
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- Eszter Szalai
"Beyond The Paper" by Jason Priem just out in Nature. Currently pay-walled.
495437a.pdf 1.0 MB
Yo Joe. No, go slow. liked this
John Wilbanks is currently bitching out Nature on Twitter for not OAing his piece.
- RepoRat
I know...
- Graham Steel
midnight gmt or so it's supposed to be fixed. really enjoyed the piece.
- Christina Pikas
After some grumbling on Twitter/Fb, all of http://www.nature.com/news... is now #openaccess
- Graham Steel
Yea!
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
"Quantitative visualization of DNA G-quadruplex structures in human cells" doi:10.1038/nchem.1548 first.lastname@gmail
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- Graham Steel
thanx!
- Egon Willighagen
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