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Facebook Should Be Better at Search - http://theappslab.com/2009...
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Nice review of the JQuery Cookbook in Infoworld: http://www.infoworld.com/d... To buy: http://oreilly.com/catalog... Use discount code TIM35 for 35% discount
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Voice May Join Google’s Enterprise Lineup http://www.crosspollinate.org/view...
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RT @KayKorbel: California Signs Deal with Broker to Sell $2 Billion in Real Estate (Business Wire) http://www.crosspollinate.org/view...
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Feedly grew 1,527% over the last 12 months http://yfrog.com/3naxfp thank you to the community,Google Reader,Mozilla & 178 iterations
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Wow wow wow--this photo is of historical masses. Biggest climate change demonstration in history http://twitpic.com/t7fx1 via @ZoeCaron
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I am sorry I have met four entrepreneurs on France so far that aren't on Twitter. That is really lame.
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its pretty common outside of USA, most of my business associates in China or Japan are like eeeehhhh?
- Robert Higgins
Yep, sorry not to be american ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
More seriously, you have to take in account the "2 years late" France problem ... I'm afraid there is nothing to do to fix that ... ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Perhaps, Stanislaus, but is Scoble on MiniTel? ;)
- John Craft
it spells market opportunity to me. Do you realize that late comers to a market/game will have the advantage of starting at the current level, and not from scratch?
- Juan Pablo
They should be on LinkedIn though
- Maciej Burczyk
I assume you meant 'in' France :) In India too most professionals are on LinkedIn rather than Twitter.
- Brijesh
they r on at least one social network ie: facebook or linkedin or their popular local network for sure. thats from all my friend's couch-surfers from all over
- polou/indigo_bow
As to being surprised, one word: Miopia. You, me, and most people :)
- Micah Wittman
I think this is a good thing. Twitter sucks.
- Alex Scoble
Preach, Alex
- Josh Haley
Yep, if I was an entrepreneur, I would shun Twitter as being completely unusable for telling a story and having a conversation with ANYONE. It's unusable for anyone but marketers and an entrepreneur needs to be more than that, IMO.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: SOCK it to 'EM - POW! ~ Why would any entrepreneur (outside&inside Tech) waste their time with twitter - there's no meaningful gain for time spent
- sofarsoShawn
Alex: that's lame too. Ever hear of posting a URL to a blog inside Twitter? That lets you do whatever you want with Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
sorry...is twitter back up again...?
- Simon Hicks
It depends who you are trying to reach - Twitter isn't *that* big an audience
- Jesse Stay
Now, if they're not on Facebook that's a different story
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: every single tech executive, influential, blogger, and VC I've asked today is on Twitter. That's who I want to reach. I don't care about your mom. As I look around the room EVERYONE is on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Everyone in your audience, yes
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, everyone in the world :)
- Peter Smulovics
Peter, um, no :-)
- Jesse Stay
I'm friends with a ton of VCs on Facebook, and I learn a ton more about them there than I do on Twitter
- Jesse Stay
I should show you my executives list on Facebook - I get to talk to them on a personal level there
- Jesse Stay
I just friended Louis Gray's Mom and get to learn about his Twins on Facebook, all while building a stronger relationship with him
- Jesse Stay
I can pitch things to Maryam and get her to convince you to do stuff ;-)
- Jesse Stay
And that only touches the surface of what you can do with my Mom on Facebook ;-) (although she doesn't friend anyone but her direct relatives)
- Jesse Stay
I think that's an unfair statement Robert. Indirectly you are implying that Twitter is the definitive method of reaching out which is incorrect. Also, I think Twitter is a major distraction and personally I think any Entrepreneur worth his salt would not be wasting time on twitter but working on his idea.
- Parth Awasthi
The numbers tell all: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/faceboo...
- Jesse Stay
Parth - I'm an entrepreneur worth my salt (IMHO). I'm on twitter. It's a place to make connections much faster than you can in a room of other business folks, or secluded away working on your idea. Take your best efforts at networking and multiply them by an order of magnitude or two and that's the impact twitter can have on your reach and connections.
- Brian Schwartz
Jesse - your stats are completely ignoring API calls and most everyone who uses twitter uses a 3rd party tool.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, fine - compare API calls. Want me to show stats on the number of Facebook API developers vs. Twitter API developers?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse what's app just won the award for best iphone app for 2009? Tweetie.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, and that says what?
- Jesse Stay
OneForty's tracking just over 2,000 Twitter apps - they're probably the most complete directory
- Jesse Stay
Sorry, forgot friendfeed uses enter to actually post. Tweetie was one of the most popular and used apps for the iphone two years in a row. Facebook and twitter are different web applications. Farmville et al don't appear on twitter.
- Brian Schwartz
The Twitter development mailing list has almost 7,000 members
- Jesse Stay
The Facebook developer forum has just over 45,000 members
- Jesse Stay
How many of those are game developers? You don't need 45,000 developers to developer twitter clients.
- Brian Schwartz
Actually, according to their developer conference from 2008 the number of registered developers on their platform exceeds 400,000
- Jesse Stay
In 2008 Facebook also announced over 33,000 apps - that was just last year
- Jesse Stay
Twitter has plenty of game developers as well - that has nothing to do with this conversation - this is about *everyone* being on Twitter, or supposedly that being the case
- Jesse Stay
how many of them are business apps? How many do you actually use? I am active on both and think they have different business models and purposes. Robert's point is valid. If you're in web / tech you should be on twitter and that is correct statement.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, again, I think that depends on who you're trying to connect with. Most of the important people I need to connect with are on Facebook as well as Twitter, and I can be much more effective on Facebook than I can Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse yes you can do that on facebook. However, not everyone is willing to accept Facebook friend requests from strangers (which I personally don't do) and once their account hits 5000 friends, they have no choice but to transition new "friends" to a fanpage, where the interaction ca be less personal & engaging than twitter. Most people are willing to receive and respond to @ replies in twitter, even prominent people in web / tech space.
- Brian Schwartz
you gotta go where your customers are. If that is twitter - so be it. If not, don't waste your time on there.
- Simon Hicks
The people I connect with on Facebook aren't strangers. That's the thing - I build much more intimate relationships on Facebook. Not everyone follows back on Twitter either - you have the same problem there. Fan Pages aren't less personal either - each fan Page has to be fan'd by real people, and conversations occur in more than 140 characters, all with real people. They are much more intimate.
- Jesse Stay
The advantage Twitter has is it's easy to build an audience fast - it takes more work on Facebook. With Twitter, because the follow is part of the API it's a cinch to figure out ways to game the system and grow an audience really quick. I would then recommend transitioning that audience to Facebook where you can build even stronger relationships.
- Jesse Stay
But with the much harder audience building on Facebook it also brings a much more intimate experience, and much higher quality relationships.
- Jesse Stay
To you. This is a matter of opinion. I build relationships with people on twitter (similar to how you do on facebook) several of which I'm now friends with in real life.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, as do I - I have had much greater success on Facebook though, where most of my relationships also become friends. FriendFeed has similar qualities due to the size of the network here.
- Jesse Stay
But you have a twitter account, I see it on your friendfeed profile, Robert is commenting about people who don't, I agree with him, that is lame. If you are in the industry (and attending LeWeb) you should at least have an account.
- Brian Schwartz
My point though is that Robert's statement too is a matter of opinion - you don't need a Twitter account to be successful as an entrepreneur. You can be on Facebook and be just as successful, if not more successful without a Twitter account.
- Jesse Stay
Use the tool that gets the best results for you. I personally don't follow more than 1k people in twitter. I don't want to. But at least make an attempt to try the tools before you rule them out.
- Brian Schwartz
I should add that e-mail also makes a great communication mechanism, as do lunch appointments and in-person meetings, as does a blog. Twitter isn't 100% necessary. It's a tool like anything else.
- Jesse Stay
Get outside the US and you'll have strange faces if you mention Twitter (although I know many places in the US you get the same, even amongst executives and VCs)
- Jesse Stay
We are not disagreeing (other than a preference of tool) but being in web industry you should have a profile on all of these tools and understand what they do.
- Brian Schwartz
I'm not even really stating a preference - I'm just trying to show that there are many other options out there that would make Robert's statement false.
- Jesse Stay
I'm also surprised you get strange faces from anyone in the US about twitter considering it's Q rating in the media. I'm in the midwest (flyover country to most of the rest of the US) and our social media club meetings get between 60 - 100 people per month. You can't just ignore twitter.
- Brian Schwartz
I spoke to an audience of 1,000 a couple months ago and only an eighth (if even that) of the room rose their hands when I asked them who was on Twitter. Look at the numbers - Twitter is still very small, regardless of what your Social Media Club says.
- Jesse Stay
1000 of whom? Web folks? Brick and mortar businesses owners? I speak to marketing crowds and the majority of them are on twitter (if not personally, at least the brands they represent).
- Brian Schwartz
Again, Robert is at LeWeb. This should be an informed audience.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, software developers and entrepreneurs, including several executives
- Jesse Stay
Brian, Robert is also in France, where I am willing to bet not many of those VCs or Executives use Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
The theme of this years LeWeb is "real time web" should be a big enough of a hint what that audience would be discussing... I'm off to bed though, it's 2:36 local time for me. Cheers.
- Brian Schwartz
of course, but Twitter's not necessary if you live in France, unless you want to connect with Silicon Valley VCs or Executives, which even in that case there are other means of interacting with them.
- Jesse Stay
As far as I can observe, the french community of twitter is mostly crowded by journalists, bloggers, and social media enthousiasts in general. There are also plenty of entrepreneurs, but i think that as Jesse mentionned facebook is still the first place to be.
- Stanislas Jourdan
About LinkedIn, it is popular among geeks population, but viadeo (http://www.viadeo.com) is much more mainstream (probably because it is a French company ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Tell me... what's your pager number?
- Johnny Worthington
And since we are looking down on people for not having a Twitter account, maybe you could dig deeper for us Robert: How many entrepreneurs did you meet that didn't have a iPhone/Smart Phone? How many checked their email directly and didn't have a personal assistant filter it for them? How many listed their cell phone on their business card? How many used voice communication as thier...
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- Johnny Worthington
This is for Jesse regarding developers and apps using twitter - http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009...
- Brian Schwartz
Jesse Stays outlines it pretty inarguabley, your lists are great in a false conscious, augmented reality, but with real VC's & with real business, we don't operate through a tweet deck
- sofarsoShawn
Google Web Toolkit: Now Making Your Apps Even Faster, Smaller, And Tidier http://news.crosspollinate.org/view...
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Ushahidi: Tapping the human resource #TED http://news.crosspollinate.org/view...
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Brothers in Arms - http://likaholix.com/debsw...
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This is one of my favorite dire straits songs. After seeing a West Wing episode that uses this song in it's background score, have always associated the song with West Wing.
- Bindu Reddy
from Likaholix
That is my favourite west wing episode too (and arguably my favourite tv episode ever) - two cathedrals from season 2
- arunthampi
from iPhone
Ah yes... that was the name of the episode
- Bindu Reddy
Looking forward 2 Twitter chat on #cop15 @ noon NYC time tomorrow. @BillMcKibben intros. Hashtag: #ecotalk Organized by @TheEcoist
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Beta now available to early adopters! http://blog.kachingle.com/.... We are excited about beta launch & look forward to your feedback!
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Google Closure: A New Way of Developing in JavaScript - InsideRIA - http://www.insideria.com/2009...
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The World according to Americans:
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Afrika'nın olmaması da iyimiş...
- BarisTa
Lol... where rightly drawn.. that is how it looks to them [the Planners to be precise]
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
Africa?
- Burcu Dogan
süper eleştiri :)
- loylum
Real Time Data Start-Ups Carve Out Niches As Revenue Question Looms - http://blogs.wsj.com/venture...
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Did Paul Carr actually say this "On one panel, Paul Carr, a blogger, ripped the idea as ridiculous because Twitter is supposed to be a place for conversation, he said." Conversation is not a word I would normally use to describe Twitter. Sure you can use it for that but its about like using a sledgehammer to repair a watch.
- Ed Millard
Is Twitter replaces email or phone? Man Arrested For Not Using Twitter http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/2009112...
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Getting To The SuperTweet: Speedi.ly Classifies The Real Time Web http://www.crosspollinate.org/view...
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Twitter to turn on advertising “you will love” (here’s how: SuperTweet) - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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Wow. Your outpouring of support & RTs for the Vigils is incredible. Thank you 4 signing up & spreading the word! http://www.350.org/vigil
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French Tweet: Twitter Goes French In Time For LeWeb http://www.crosspollinate.org/view...
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Oh la la!
- Stephan Osmont
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How to Manage a Group Project in Google Wave http://www.crosspollinate.org/view...
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How to Manage a Group Project in Google Wave [Google Wave] http://www.crosspollinate.org/view...
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Startups Continue To Attract Funding, Create Jobs http://www.crosspollinate.org/view...
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New Open Thread: 25 days to go till Copenhagen--Share your post-Oct 24 plans w/55,000+ supporters on 350 Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/photo...
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Google releases Closure, the tools behind the JS geniuses - http://ajaxian.com/archive...
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Nice, thanks for that, very useful.
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