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Akiva Moskovitz

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT THE HELL GOOGLE LOOKS ALL DIFFERENT NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Penguin It's Cold Outside, Steve Lynch, Beau Liening and 5 other people liked this

how?? - Roberto Bonini

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screenshot? :) - Susan Beebe

I'm not really seeing the magic. Sure it faded in a bit and seems bigger, but.. - Mo Kargas

don't like the fade in effect? - CW™

Don't mind it, but don't see what all the fuss is about - Mo Kargas

Oh, wow. Now it's not doing it. In a search result, there was a column of options on the left. - Akiva Moskovitz

Like with dates options and such? That's been there for like a year - Matthew DeVries

Well, in that past year, it's only appeared for me on one search result. - Akiva Moskovitz

Do you have a bar "Web Hide optionsShow options... Results 1 - 10 of about 1,190,000 for cia rendition. (0.24 seconds) " across the top of your results? That's how you make the options deploy. - Matthew DeVries

It came out the same day they put in that vote up vote down thing - Matthew DeVries

Oh. Right, forgot all about that thing because I keep it hidden. This was something different. It looked different, at least. - Akiva Moskovitz

OH! Do you run google toolbar? They just pushed SideWiki out to all the toolbar users (without permission, boo google) in the last day. - Matthew DeVries

Nope. I run no toolbars. - Akiva Moskovitz

Run Chrome? They may have forced it there too - Matthew DeVries

Yep. Chrome. - Akiva Moskovitz

Look up "SideWiki" and see if you have it. That name is horrible. May as well be "SideHerpes" - Matthew DeVries

No. I don't have Google Toolbar installed and thus I don't have SideWiki. - Akiva Moskovitz

That's good, cause the cream to get rid of it is expensive - Matthew DeVries

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Funny Pics and Videos

No Matter How Hard You Try, It Is Impossible To Fax A Cat #shareit

April 19 - Comment - Like - Share

Olive Fee, anne__bonney, Mouhamadou M CAMARA and 716 other people liked this

LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

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That poor cat looks so confused. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF

Time for a cat scan! - Jemm

Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky

This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup

LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes

that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.

<3 - Furkan Tunalı

Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato

Kitty!!!! - Janice

keep trying! - Morgan Haley

FEED ME A CAT - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny

Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez

Push harder - Josh Haley

LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac

آخی - یک بابک

Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh

There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel

I think you mean a LIVE cat… - Glen Mistletoe

thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b

FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel

iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman

LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood

Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman

MOAR! - Pat Hawks

I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick

A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes

Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

اخي...گناهي - noonii

Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd

X)) - Nia

OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Alex Scoble

But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak

Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem

1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks

Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - JSNFLMNG

¡Excelente! - Marcos Vicente

I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce

Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.

I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

bump - Simon Wicks

Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

Awesomely funny! - Martha

Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham

Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cute *_* - Sybelle

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you spare a cat 6 likes? - JSNFLMNG

sweet - Eric Hofmann

Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar

Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome. - Alex Scoble

this is underfaksink at its worzt - Petr Buben

Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - Petr Buben

Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - Petr Buben

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

433 Like ! Wow ! - Like

Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

cute~ - Chan Pen

that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell

oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - Petr Buben

Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier. - Bob Blunk

Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Ok, over the top now. - Greg Guitarbuster

Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - Steve C

Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - Kevin Pedraja

LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes

i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShawn

Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar

bump for more likes - Josh Haley

bump - Roberto Bonini

One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I took mine away, too much pressure. - Steve C

Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла

пиздец как! - getalifejerk

Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes

My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik - getalifejerk

did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

wish I could double like! - metalerik

Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.

برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - H.M.Nasrabadi

Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes

copy cat - gibilix

518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao

ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu

Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

*bump* - Andre

Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes

So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.

So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

this thread is making history. - vijay

Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd

Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes

8... - sofarsoShawn

7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShawn

Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini

Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes

take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

:) - SokooteDel

Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd

552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

560! - sofarsoShawn

And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe

I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich

Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

564! - sofarsoShawn

I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - JSNFLMNG

maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto

Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes

This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes

It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead

It will :) - Roberto Bonini

My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun... - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m

No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes

Most liked FF post ever? - Kristian Salonen

One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis

Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes

ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa

11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir

هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan

Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley

Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre

There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes

3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini

I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes

too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - JSNFLMNG

Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes

614!!!!! - sofarsoShawn

Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - Petr Buben

Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes

omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead

@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - Petr Buben

I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell

Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig

Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme Flipo

Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShawn

Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShawn

this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie_Thankful

Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam

LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes

این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa

Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini

Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it will - Seltoon

what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa

Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

lol - Maryaminaa

I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - Kris Roley

Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken

It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShawn

OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

try harder! ; )) - Didier Lahely

Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley

Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday .. - johnpiercy

Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©

Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink

you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.

This is very good humor! - TrafficBug

Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

just a couple thousand to go - JSNFLMNG

LOL - Smeerch

__awesome__ - Matteo Scotuzzi

and it got resurrected once again! - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt

Alex Scoble

The Robert Scoble curve: "Love it. Love, love it. Love, love, love it. My brother's joined. It's dead."

October 20 - Comment - Like - Share

paniaguai, Mark Horne, Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF and 71 other people liked this

:-)) - Johni Fisher

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Amended from Dawn's earlier work. - Alex Scoble

:) Alex, what would we do on FF without you! - Micah Wittman

You're dead now. - Robert Scoble

Hehe, sure, this post you comment on because it has your name in the title. - Alex Scoble

Spot-on. - Steve Lynch from twhirl

I found this post on Google, they're getting pretty quick. - Jimminy

So Alex, use your Twitter account more ;) - sofarsoShawn

This post made me lol. *clicks like* - Jon, the Beartato of FF

Alex - do you like your brother? - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Hilarious. - s t e v e

Louis Gray

Family Togetherness Time

July 1, 2008 from email - Comment - Like - Share

Kimitake, Johnny Worthington, M. Serdar Kuzuloglu and 106 other people liked this

Look at them sleeping. So daggone cute! - Hutch Carpenter

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Looks like Dad got a bit of schwag, too... :) - Mark Dykeman

awesome! - Thomas Hawk

Where are the FF onesies?! :-) - JA Castillo

The FF onesies are way too big. My "biggest" kid is five pounds. When these guys get 3-6 months, let the schwag wagon roll. - Louis Gray

FFTwins FTW! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Link bait! :) - Andrew Baron

@Louis you are such a product pimp ROFLMAO .. god love ya and yer family :) - Steven Hodson

awwwww - Michelle Trent

Do they have FF accounts yet? - Johnny Worthington

aww gorgeous :) and the babies too! - Allison

LOL that is alll kinds of win - Mona Nomura

I've always thought it's important to establish brand awareness early on. Good job ;-) - Jonathon

So, what are their domains and RSS feeds? I need to add them as imaginary friends for now. - Rob Diana

Peace. That's the word that comes to my mind :) - directeur from NoiseRiver

good thing they are always this happy. right! - Tim Connors

I want that shirt! - James Hull

totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet! - Rob Reed

FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day! - Sarah Perez

Cute as a button. Akiva you crack me up. :) - Mathew A. Koeneker from fftogo

@Rob Reed: Awesome! - April Buchheit

Kinda wished I had some FF schwag to wear with the newborn on the way. - Randy Hall

The first marriage on FF cannot compete with this. - Russellreno

Congratz. - Bill Bittner

Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;) - Mario Olckers

Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself. - Carla Thompson

No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those? - Jesse Stay

The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa! - Susan Beebe

cool beans! workin on those biceps! - TheMacMommy from twhirl

So cute! - marinka239

bring on the schwag, very cool pictures indeed - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Bump for good times - Jesse Stay

Paul Buchheit to Paul's feed, Collaborative Charity

Text books seem generally expensive and insipid (http://friendfeed.com/paul...). Are there any promising open-source textbook projects? (high quality content and likely to see actual use)

June 25 - Comment - Like - Share

Julia, Fulaan, inna Hebel, Nahnu and 45 other people liked this

http://twitter.com/bookmaid - RIT Rochester Institute of Technology has their own text book exchange on Twitter :) - Susan Beebe

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Obama's chief technology dude (can't remember his name) headed a project like this before taking the cabinet position. The folks at Buzz Out Loud (@acedtect @Mollywood @raygun01) would know about this as he recorded a message for their 1000th episode last week and we were reminded of the program (somewhere on the east coast). - Kevin Arth

paul - Literacybridge.org is a great non-profit focusing on this issue. there are numerous issues here in terms of language localization, cost of print and transport of books, ability to have access to and understand content, etc. many textbook programs also assume one basic fact that is not necessarily true - literacy. although i am a fan of building schools and education, the reality... more... - Joyce

IMO, most textbooks betray a massive bias of quantity over quality, in part because quantity is confused with depth. If professors were doing their jobs (some are of course), they'd concentrate on distilling out the key points rather than partake of the laziness/spoils of the rigged textbook market... most textbooks are the equivalent of a public works program. - Alex Schleber

I am planning on using an open-source book for the intro programming class I am teaching next fall at Colorado University - http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpy... - Robert Felty

Doesn't the Wikimedia Foundation have a project for open source textbooks? EDIT: Why yes, yes they do, although YMMV. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki... - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I agree with Alex. Sometimes a good curriculum or at least a lesson plan is more important than a textbook. That's why I think a great project is Curriki.org. It is an online community, where educational resources can be created, shared and re-used in an open license environment. They concentrate mainly on K-12 curriculum, however it seems like it can be a great tool to share the... more... - Maciek Zielinski

Paul I agree that textbooks are way too expensive. As you may know, because of the way textbooks get adopted by some states, most of the kids in the country end up learning from books that were specifically designed to get approved in Texas and California. So how's this for an idea of how to give away your "lots of money": fund the development of a complete set of textbooks through an... more... - Peter

Flat World Knowledge: Check it out: Professors donate time to produce textbooks. Students get them for free. - http://www.flatworldknowledge.com - scott willeke

Note the importance of audio to building literacy - http://literacybridge.org/talking... - Ed Dodds

Consider also that if a person "open schools" all the way up through university material, there is no way to CLEP a degree. The US Department of Education should issue guidelines for the degrees where this makes sense. - Ed Dodds

...i suspect that the textbook business is terrifically profitable for publishers, and that they'll fight any move to displace them tooth and nail. - .LAG liked that

There's also http://ck12.org/ They make it easy for teachers to put together custom textbooks by reusing existing pieces of content (chapters and such). - Meryn Stol

The South African "Free High School Text Book" project has a reasonable reputation: http://www.fhsst.org/. There are a lot of free non-textbook resources available through OERCommons (http://www.oercommons.org/) - Nick Lothian

@Peter - curriki looks pretty interesting. Do you have any kind of harvesting facilities? - Nick Lothian

@Nick. Yes. Curriki provides several ways to export materials from the site. Each of the 30,000 free and open source resources can be downloaded on to your computer, where they can be printed. You can also get the XML data for any resource. In both cases, you just have to mind the specifics of the Creative Commons license requirements. You can also embed a widget for any learning... more... - Peter

Here is a project that I have tried to contribute information to and one of my websites is actually listed there because at their request, it was easier for me to start a site of my own with the info I gave them, than for them to list all the book titles and links I provided them with. http://textbookrevolution.org - April Russo (app103)

Curriki is a knowledge exchange which is the 21st century textbook. EVERCHANGING, always adding, always collaborating. When I see this, I don't just see worksheets... I see customizable games- good easy to change content. I see LEARNING ACTIVITIES, best practices, I see collaboration, I see a whole curriculum FOR TEACHER INSTRUCTION- on learning how to use and implement different... more... - Sharnon Johnston-Robinett

Ditto on Flatworld, but @scott, profs are not donating their time for free -- basic web-version of text is made for free, with chapters, learning materials, etc. available for fee-based download -- don't have to use the fee-based material, but is very nice to see business model that offers a good hybrid between paper-only and web-only content. In my classes, students often print out material because they want to work on their computers and have something "hard" to refer to. - Mickey Schafer

Check out my new blogs on Curriki, we address this issue and hope the community will make sure we are sustainable. - Bobbi Kurshan

http://www.cnx.org and http://ocw.mit.edu - joe is... from iPod

Louis Gray

Visual evidence that you live in a bubble.

Screen shot 2009-10-08 at 11.56.50 AM.jpg

October 8 - Comment - Like - Share

Darth Farhad Sama, Kol Tregaskes, Jimminy and 43 other people liked this

From 4 minutes ago. :) - Louis Gray

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HAHAHA! - Sheryl

I thought for SURE I was the first to notice... :) - Seth Gray

lol - Captain Bubbles

I seriously hope this guy was being sarcastic... - Joshua Schnell

He just doesn't live in _the_ bubble. - Micah Wittman

<twitter>Facepalm</twitter> Wonders why people think the universe revolves around Twitter. Anyone would think the world had suddenly stopped spinning. FF has kept me amused and informed to a degree that I was only peripherally aware that the whale had failed again - Steve - CdL Creative

what else is news? - Houseofmax

This is crap. I demand a full 15 minutes of fame. - Carter Shanklin

15 whole minutes! It's been 2 hours already. :) - Louis Gray

awesome. little known fact. i can't believe i'm the first person to notice the sun comes up each day. never seen anyone talk about that, either - dannysullivan

I twittered my rat's ass over 2.5 hours ago! Didn't anyone get it? - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

Bwahahahaaa - real time web strips you of any real meaningful chance to sound like an authority - Martha from BuddyFeed

Bonus Points for the subject of the post joining FF just to have his say. Gotta love it. - Kamilah Gill

I'm sure that is not only visual, but could also be read in Braille. More bonus points. - Red Label

"Liked" for Carter's comment and what Kamilah said. - Micah Wittman

Cristo

It's easier to be insulted by what someone says than it is to take it in a positive way

October 8 - Comment - Like - Share

Miriella, MVB (Curmudgeon of FF), Steve Lynch and 6 other people liked this

Especially online. :) - Cristo

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What the hell do you mean by that? - Alex Scrivener

Alex, it means you are a beautiful flower of a person. - Cristo

True. - joey

Your hair is a mess and your breathe stinks. - CW™

And yet I'm still beautiful. - Cristo

zombies pass you up. - Joe Silence is not dead

Because zombies are trendy and like sushi sized brains, instead of the sultan feast in my head. - Cristo

Especially if you're a dick. - Lucas Parker

A big swinging dick, that is. - Cristo

And I mean that in the nicest possible way. - Lucas Parker

Lucas I know. I'm glad you're impressed by my manhood. - Cristo

You've got a good attitude about your penis and I respect you for it. - Lucas Parker

he gives puppet shows. - Joe Silence is not dead

I'm so glad I read this comment. It was a really good use of my time. - s t e v e

Steve, that means a lot to me, because I know you value your time highly. - Cristo

I'm insulted on behalf of all people who don't value their time. - Lucas Parker

Lucas, it makes me proud that a fellow human being empathizes with a large segment of society. - Cristo

Long live Conformity! - Fulaan, inna Hebel

directeur to directeur's feed, OpenFF, Dango Daikazoku だんご大家族

Hi Folks! Today is my birthday, I'm 33! :) And I wanted to celebrate by releasing an idea -and an implementation of it- to the wild! It's Socnode: The basic unit of distributed social networks. http://www.socnode.org/

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I'm also opening the private group Dango Daikazoku だんご大家族 where the making-of socnodes is actively discussed. Welcome everyone! http://friendfeed.com/dango-p... :) Oh and the source code here: http://github.com/directe... ! Fork! :) DEMO here: http://ff.im/7u1ER ! - directeur

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happy birthday buddy. congrats! :) - Oğuz Serdar

Phew! I feel LIGHTER! :) - directeur

May I mention the Socnode source is up on Github? :) http://github.com/directe... - Meryn Stol

Sure, Meryn! It is :) - directeur

congrats ! I hope the best for the new age and new project - denizoktar

Well done! Happy Birthday. - Peter Hoffmann

Congrats! - Nick Lothian

Happy birthday directeur, tomorrow, it's mine : ) - Didier Lahely

happy birthday! - Joe Silence is not dead

Thank you guys! :) Didier, par avance, joyeux anniversaire à toi aussi! :) - directeur

funny i just wished someone else with the same post a happy bday - well happy bday to you too - viki saigal

:) Thanks viki! - directeur

Happy birthday! - Cea

Happy Birthday, Directeur! - David Cook from fftogo

Happy Birthday directeur :) socnode is a great idea btw :p - Onur Gündüz

Thank you, guys! For a demo btw, read this: http://ff.im/7u1ER :) - directeur

Happy birthday! - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Happy birthday! - Dee S.

Congratulations, directeur! You won this race, LOL! I'm excited to see what comes out from this project. - Jorge Escobar

Hey hey! It's my favorite directeur's birthday? Happy Birthday, Miyagi-San! Looking forward to checking this new project out. :) - Josh Haley

♫ ♬ Happy birthday to you ♩ ♪ ♬ - Laurent

:) Really glad to have you arround, guys! Jorge, now your turn, man! ;-) Josh! That's *A* HONOR! Watashi wa? Hontoni honto? Arigato Josh san, and hey! Focus Daniel San! ALLWAYS LOOK EYE :) — Mille merçis, Laurent! :) - directeur

Credit where credit is due: The blue O is an idea by Vijay no baka! The guy who knows how to insult me in japanese and who in return gets his fair share of insults too! Arigato, rokudenashi! :) — Oh and to see the thing in action, go to http://socnode2.appspot.com login with "beta" and password "123" share something and go to http://socnode.appspot.com to see it there too! - directeur

Happy Birthday! And this sounds like a great idea! - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Thanks Ahsan Ali :) - directeur

Happy birthday! - Laura Lou Who

Happy Birthday bro! :) Now you're an old man :p - Tunahan E. Bilgin

Thanks Laura! Tunahan, thank you too! And Oh yes! I'm old, and old people don't send DMs to their turkish friends with a shamefull record of them singing in turkish :D - directeur

oh i like the way u sing :)) - Onur Gündüz

Yes, Onur, for a good laugh that's really nice! :P Thanks anyway :) heh, you won't share it here right, right?? :)) - directeur

For a good laugh??? kanka I CRIED when i listened to that piece :pp and i'm definitely gonna share it if you leave this project :) - Onur Gündüz

Happy Birthday directeur!!! :) - AJ Batac

Happy birthday. - Captain Bubbles

Happy birthday! - Ladybug Heather

Thanks AJ, Anika and Ladybug! :) - directeur

anni di Cristo! congratulations and happy birthday. - Nathan Rein

Happy Birthday. Off to go play with socnode. - Jimminy

wishing you a *very* Happy Birthday ! - Adriano

Thanks Nathan, Jimminy and Adriano! :) - directeur

awesome!! & of course Happy Bday - sofarsoShawn

Happy Bday! - Herb Hernandez

Happy birthday! - Janette Toral

Thanks, folks :) - directeur

Happy Birthday! I hope the day treated you well. - pea

Thanks pea! :) Well I was really busy, but now I'm watching anime —yes, I'm 33, so what? :) - directeur

I'm not judging you. Those of us who are *ahem* older and still like Elmo, as an example, can't afford to be too judgy. ;-) - pea

Yeah!! ;-) - directeur

Happy Birthday/Dogum gunun kutlu olsun Directeur, i wish all your wishes come true, especially Begum part :) - Muge Cerman

Happy birthday @Directeur and thanks for all! :D - Roberto from iPhone

happy birthday :) great project. - Ahmet Alp Balkan

otanjoubi omedeto gozaimasu directeur :D btw the Matrix series that rocked the planet was inspired by Ghost in the Shell. Not only that, GITS talks about social media and memes 10 years ago. The anime we watch are far from the silly Powerpuff kiddie anime that people normally see as anime. Watch away directeur, I'm with you :D - vijay

happy bday, mr directeur! - imabonehead

Happy bday! - Internet's Tad

Happy birthday indeed! - Adrian

A very Happy Birthday! - Joe

Happy B'day! - .LAG liked that

Happy Birthday :) - Baard @ Pixum

Happy Birthday, directeur! - Anne Bouey

Happy Birthday, directeur! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Happy Birthday! You were born at a good time of year. :) - Cristo

Happy Birthday directeur ! - Stanislas Jourdan

bon anniversaire! - anna sauce

Happy birthday, Directeur!! Looking forward to checking out SocNode, thanks for sharing! - Harold Cabezas

Thank you all folks! :) @Vijay: Totally! @Harold, please do! You can try the demo (links above) and check out the source code too! @Cristo: Happy birthady to you too! ;-) - directeur

Happy birthday, glad to meet you and have you as a FF. Be happy allways, you deserve it. - Céu de Buarque

Gracias Céu! Really glad to meet you, too! :) - directeur

Happy Birthday and nice going on the SM implementation :) - Jeunelle Foster

Happy birthday Directeur! Let me be a part of the Dango Dango Family :) - CannonGod

Thanks Jeunelle and CannonGod! CannonGod, oh sure! welcome aboard and let's sing together: dango dango dango dango dango daikazoku http://ff.im/7srJ3 :) - directeur

happy belated birthday! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

happy belated from me - Mike Dammann

Congrats on this release directeur. :-) This will be the basis of many great projects, I think. :-) - Jason Huebel

Oh, and Happy Birthday! - Jason Huebel

Thank you, all! :) Jason, let's hope so! As I often said it in the Dango Daikazoku group, the idea here is really more important than my own django implementation of it -which actually is beautiful too! ;-) - directeur

A belated happy birthday to you, Directeur. :) - Brome

Merci Brome! C'est très gentil :) - directeur

Doğum günün kutlu olsun directeur! Nice senelere... - Tahir "orphy" DEMİRTAŞ

Çok teşekkürler, Tahir kardeşim :) - directeur

Happy Bday ... Enjoy the Day ! - johnpiercy

Thanks, Herzeleid! Thanks everyone! :) - directeur

Happy Birthday - great age! ;) - Jemm

happy bday buddy :) mutlu yıllar, Allah hayırlı uzun ömür versin :)) - Mücahit Yılmaz from fftogo

Çok teşekkürler Jemm! Thank you so much, Mücahit :) - directeur

Marshall Kirkpatrick

if unclear: RSSCloud will help readers get your blog posts right away, just like RSS lets them get your posts at all.

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How ? Like many others, I use GReader. How will it help me ? - Andy C

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GReader, if and when it supports RSSCloud, will deliver blog posts to subscribers immediately after they are published if they are published through RSSCloud. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

does that make sense? right now you subscribe to a blog's feed in GReader and GReader checks the RSS feed like once every 30 mins. Depending on the feed, sometimes it only checks once a week if you're the only person subbed to it. With RSSCloud, GReader could act like an Instant Messaging client for you and be told, thus telling you, the moment a new post is available. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Right -- Google Reader would be instant, like Twitter and FriendFeed are. - Dave Winer

OK - but I thought Google/Feedburner were firmly behind PubSubHubbub that isn't fully rolled out yet either. Are these protocols complimentary or competing ? - Andy C

+1 Andy C agree its getting confusing - Kim Landwehr

Ultimately they'll have to decide whether they want to give features to their users. I supported Atom in River2 in less than a day. It won't take them much longer to support rssCloud. - Dave Winer

makes me think that Google owning both the dominant feed publishing service and the dominant feed reading service probably isn't very good for the feed ecosystem. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Marshall, this gives them the opportunity to prove that it's not a problem. - Dave Winer

:) - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Winer makes a good point. Google should support rssCloud so the market decides - Steve Gillmor

The market will decide regardless. Google will be making a mistake by not supporting it. - Jesse Stay

exactly Jesse - Steve Gillmor

@Steve - seriously - when has Google done anything serious beyond its obsession with search based ad placement? - Dennis Howlett

supporting Pubsubhubbub was a good start, rssCloud a good next step - Steve Gillmor

@dahowlett Google does a lot of serious stuff: gmail, google apps for domains (incl enterprise search appliances), deeply serious stuff around power usages/management for their own datacenters (and even more serious BigTable & the other underlying technologies within those datacenters), Google Earth & Maps (incl the massive effort to get Streetview data), Google Books & the scanning... more... - Shannon Clark

Rss Cloud discussion. Interesting stuff... - kevin fitts

Glad to see you pushing Dave - Congrats on getting Matt/Wordpress onboard. - PXLated

I don't understand: why RSSCloud over Pubsubhubbub? You can talk about "choice" and push Google to support RSSCloud, but if there's no real difference between the two, the market can't differentiate and there isn't going to be a real choice. Like right now, I'm asking why didn't Dave Winer and Automattic get on board with Pubsubhubbub? What's the material benefit for pushing RSSCloud instead? - Mark Trapp

Fine. It's the other way around. When they decided to implement realtime feeds, why did they invent something new? RSS already provided for it. Since 2001. So bring this argument to them. Thanks. - Dave Winer

BTW, to be clear, I don't have any issue with the Google guys who did Pubsubhubub, just with arguments like this that get their chronology backwards. - Dave Winer

You didn't really answer the question, Dave. Is there a material difference between Pubsubhubbub and RSSCloud such that RSSCloud is better? Why would I choose RSSCloud over Pubsubhubbub, or vice versa? All I know right now is that there's one standard that's supported by Google, and one that's supported by you and Automattic. Why shouldn't I go with Google's version? It reads like Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD - Mark Trapp

Mark, I stated a few reasons as well here: http://staynalive.com/article... - but frankly, Dave was first. Google's a bigCo. Dave's isn't tied to a bigCo. I think his is more appealing because of that. I'll support both though until I see wider adoption. - Jesse Stay

Guys, we plan to integrate RSS Cloud to Lazyfeed very soon. We've just announced it on our blog: http://blog.lazyfeed.com/2009... Hope people will like it :) - Ethan Gahng

Jesse: Dave's version might've been first, but the one that seems to have gotten wide adoption first was Google's. So when that happened, why fight it? I'm assuming there's a good reason why RSSCloud is better: being technically first doesn't seem like a good enough reason. I do see the part about 24 hour expiry: I'd have to think about that some more. Seems like something easily added to PubSubHubbub, though: and doesn't seem like enough to keep two competing specs alive. - Mark Trapp

rssCloud is a done deal. Mark, you should take your own advice and stop fighting. - Dave Winer

What happened to the Hide command in FriendFeed? This thread is so over, totally needs to be hidden. - Dave Winer

All I'm asking is for some information on why there are two seemingly competing specs and which spec one should one adopt, Dave. If you can't deign yourself to provide that information, by all means ignore or block me: perhaps someone besides you who gets the difference between the two can fill in the rest of us mere mortals on what the concrete differences between the two specs are. - Mark Trapp

@Jesse: This is why - 'This thread is so over, totally needs to be hidden.' - Andy C

Andy, I agree with him - this is a dumb argument. - Jesse Stay

It's not a dumb argument, but one that should be rendered moot by Google supporting rssCloud - Steve Gillmor

Dave, it's right next to Comment, Like, and Share... Hide is the one on the right... no your other right - Chris Heath

Does this mean I won't need Sudar's Post to FriendFeed plugin for WordPress? - Skyler Call

http://www.youtube.com/watch... I found this helpful as a primer in understanding RSS. - kevin fitts

Anyone remembers VHS vs. Betamax? Nowadays willy whacking is sooo last century, isn't it? - Sebastian

wasn't vhx vs betamax settled by the adult film industry? - Chris Heath

Prolly many adult entertainment services have implemented PuSH spreading near real time smut moments before supporting rssCloud. Why miss out on any opportunity? - Sebastian

Regarding Jesse's argument that "Dave was first" is sufficient justification for preferring RSSCloud, it was dead for more than five years and implemented by no one. When he chose to take it out of mothballs, PSHB was implemented by Google and others. His choice to revive RSSCloud has splintered pub-sub support into two efforts and a lot of programmers will now be asked to support both. I'm not clear on the benefit either. - Rogers Cadenhead

Eventually it boils down to wether you reader app implemented enough real-time "clients". An easy option for this is to use Superfeedr, since we have implemented MANY of them... and we push forward the content to your reader. - Julien

Jesse Stay

I've talked to several people now all saying they're doing really cool stuff with rssCloud. Expect this to be very big.

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Are they working with PubSubHubbub as well? - Ken Sheppardson

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It has tons of potential. Step toward the real time blogosphere. - Jesse P. Luna

Are there any readers supporting it other than his iRiver ? I enabled it for VizWorld.com, but don't see anything "magic" other than the cloud tag in the RSS. - Randall Hand

What's the difference between this and PubSubHubbub? I have a PubSubHubbub plugin installed as well. - Rutger Blom

rssCloud doesn't work with PubSubHubbub. While they are similar conceptually there are some key differences in the implementation. The main difference is that rssCloud has the blog / feed producer send out the notifications to each subscriber instead of delegating that responsibility to a hub. While this removes the reliance of any hub it also adds scaling issues for larger blogs. Not... more... - Josh Fraser

Josh, rssCloud *does* work with PubSubHubbub - just not at the same time. You can install both rssCloud and PubSubHubbub on a blog at the same time with no problem. My beef is that Google holds the main control of PSHB - not sure I like that in an open standard. Also, rssCloud is much harder to DOS - feeds expire after 24 hours so cloud servers don't have to keep pinging the aggregator if the feed dies. - Jesse Stay

Josh, thanks for that. - Rutger Blom from email

I don't see anywhere that your "cloud" can't be separate from the blog/feed producer. All the cloud tag does is to provide a place to subscribe for notifications. How that back end works is not specified. - Otto

it's not accurate that PSHB is controlled by Google. It is an independant group. - Steve Gillmor

My question wasn't so much whether the technologies are complementary or compatible, but whether the people who are "doing really cool stuff with rssCloud" are also working on doing similar cool stuff in PSHB, or whether we're going to get yet another bifurcation of the space. - Ken Sheppardson

Sorry I didn't mean to suggest you can't install both, obviously you can. They just don't use the same protocol or work the same way. - Josh Fraser

PSHB strikes me as slightly more robust of a solution, in that it sends the actual content along with the notifications, avoiding the need for lots of people to come regrab your feed. On the other hand, there's no real reason rssCloud can't be extended to do the same thing. - Otto

rssCloud would let you control your content a little bit tighter than PSHB because of that, though. - Aaron Crews

Jesse, how would this cause a DOS? I think you're missing the point. The cloud servers don't ping the feed -- the feed pings the cloud servers. The 24 hour window is a bit small in my opinion. While it's nice to have automatic expiration built in for garbage collection (PSH has a 30 day window by default) the incremental cost of having an extra row in a database is minimal. - Josh Fraser

Steve, who are the members of the group? - Jesse Stay

Jesse: Here are the committers http://code.google.com/p... on the implementation. I'm not sure what procedure they're following for the spec. Here are the companies using PSHB - http://code.google.com/p... - Ken Sheppardson

Ken: I'm doing cool stuff with Pubsubhubbub and will soon be doing stuff with rssCloud - so yes, I'm doing cool stuff with both :-) PSHB is easier from an aggregator point of view so I started with that. - Jalada

Once the Open Web Foundation (http://openwebfoundation.org/) is ready for it, we'll be licensing the PubSubHubbub spec under its license. So the foundation will ultimately be in control of the spec's future. - Brett Slatkin

rssCloud is luxurious melty chocolate and PubSubHubbub is rich creamy peanut butter... and hopefully with the grace of the gathered mental giants of our time we'll one day have RssPubSubber Hubs, Rss Pieces, and a host of tasty delights to satisfy any decentralized sweet tooth - Jay Cuthrell

Ken (and Steve Gillmor), Brett, Andy, and Brad, the owners of it, all work for Google. Brett, that's great news - I'd like to see Google pass this on to a broader organization. I like the spec - my concern is that Google has control over it right now. (not to mention I'm a big Brett and Brad fan!) :-) - Jesse Stay

What does "owner" mean in this context, Jesse? Does Dave Winer "own" RSS? - Ken Sheppardson

Personally I want to see both specs move forward. - Jesse Stay

Ken, they're all marked "owner" in the committers list. They control the spec. - Jesse Stay

Ken, Dave doesn't work for Google. - Jesse Stay

And there is a very broad committee for the RSS spec, which Dave's <cloud/> implementation is part of. - Jesse Stay

I just don't get the FUD behind an open standard just because it's developed by people who work for a company that actually has resources to push and motivate adoption. I'm sure I'm just being naive. - Ken Sheppardson

It's not like they control the only hub - anyone can make a hub (Superfeedr have) and if Google change the spec in a bad way (not sure how) there's no reason why people have to follow. - Jalada

I agree with all of you - I admit I'm confused who to support, if I should even be supporting anyone or everyone. They all seem very similar to me, and from a development standpoint it's not that hard to implement either. It's very confusing to have so many. - Jesse Stay

When I say Google I'm simply trying to come up with reasons why Dave thinks his is better and why he thinks we should use it. Honestly, I don't know why you should use one or the other. They both seem the same to me. - Jesse Stay

Jesse: Who are the members of this RSS spec committee? - scott anderson

Scott: http://www.rssboard.org/advisor... - Jesse Stay

That committee was disbanded. http://www.therssweblog.com/... - scott anderson

"3/30/2009 - In a 7-0 vote, the RSS Advisory Board has approved six edits to the RSS specification, the documentation for the RSS 2.0 format." -- http://www.rssboard.org/news... - Ken Sheppardson

I'm confused - is it disbanded or not? - Jesse Stay

It looks like they continue to function as recently as March, although it seems Dave doesn't believe they have any particular authority - http://www.scripting.com/stories... - Ken Sheppardson

Jesse: No one really knows. That is the problem. It looks like there are two RSS 2.0 specs now, one controlled by Dave which is frozen and one controlled by the RSS Advisory Board (2.011). If Dave does not recognize the board as having any authority, then in Dave's mind he owns the RSS 2.0 spec. I expect that we will see the same approach taken by Dave with rssCloud. In my opinion these are not open formats and protocols. They are proprietary. - scott anderson

Well, to be fair... pretty much everybody agrees the RSS spec is frozen at this point, right? I mean the changes have just been cosmetic and administrative, e.g. updating links, etc. and not material changes to the protocol. - Ken Sheppardson

Ken: Yes. Dave even objected to those cosmetic and administrative changes made by the board which clarified the spec. That's why Atom exists. - scott anderson

This is all so confusing. - Jesse Stay

It doesn't have to be. - Jay Cuthrell

So who's going to fix that? :-) - Jesse Stay

Matt did you mean SOAP opera? NYuck Nyuck Nyuck - Matt Terenzio

Jesse - I've tried to make it is clear and easy to understand on my blog (http://fudge.org) i.e. it's all good - Jay Cuthrell

Corvida

Giving tech support to my mom using Yuuguu, Skype, and occasionally the house phone. Kudos to @marshallk for the Yuuguu tip

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Rapper behind 'Roxanne's Revenge' gets Warner Music to pay for Ph.D - http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_loca...

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"After two albums, Shante said, she was disillusioned by the sleazy music industry and swindled by her record company. The teen mother, living in the Queensbridge Houses, recalled how her life was shattered. "Everybody was cheating with the contracts, stealing and telling lies," she said. "And to find out that I was just a commodity was heartbreaking." But Shante, then 19, remembered a clause in her Warner Music recording contract: The company would fund her education for life. She eventually cashed in, earning a Ph.D. in psychology from Cornell to the tune of $217,000 - all covered by the label. But getting Warner Music to cough up the dough was a battle. "They kept stumbling over their words, and they didn't have an exact reason why they were telling me no," Shante said. She figured Warner considered the clause a throwaway, never believing a teen mom in public housing would attend college. The company declined to comment for this story." - Derrick from Bookmarklet

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*does Cabbage Patch gently* - Baroness Von SmashAHomie from fftogo

Badass! - Daniel J. Pritchett

Awesome story. - Rob Haas

Awesome. She earned to be the real Roxanne now :) - Rodfather

Smart woman! - Anne Bouey

damn. a ph.d. *and* a ph.d. from the ivy league? damn. somebody tell soulja boy this is how you do things. - tiffany

I love this story. Well know, she took them for a education! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

LOVE - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

She's so cool they have to boil her soda so it doesn't freeze before she drinks it. Daaaaamn. - Wirehead

[this is awesome] - Maria Niles

I just noticed that her song came out 25 years ago. As cool as this story is I'm not sure what makes it timely. Did she just finish the PhD or what? - Daniel J. Pritchett

She's been in practice for years. Daniel you may be onto something with the 25 yr mark. Maybe there's a re-release or something coming out. - Michelle

Yeah I remember her telling this story years ago... - Remo

Hell yeah. *likelikelike* - Ayşe E.

The real Roxanne gets a PhD courtesy of her record label. That's quite a story. - sean808080

I'ma call her "DOCTOR Roxanne" - Call me Bronco

Fantabulous! - Ruchira S. Datta

so.....that might actually, not be true. http://www.slate.com/id... - Richard Lawler

That's a revealing article, Richard. - Anne Bouey

Aw it's all a lie - Rodfather

Now that we're in "person with confidence issues stages a big hoax that gets out of hand" territory, I'd like to refer you all to this story about a high school kid who staged a press conference complete with news crews to announce that he'd accepted a scholarship to play football at Cal. Turned out he'd never even gotten an offer: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn... - Daniel J. Pritchett

damnnnnnnnnnn. - Andrew C

Yeah I remember that - Richard Lawler

I'm really disappointed to find out this is all BS. - Derrick

oh dang i was loving this story, but then saw the last comment. OH INTERNETS - sean percival

me too, D. - Melissa

wait im confused, its not legit, or this did go down? - sean percival

it's not true, it just didn't happen. - Richard Lawler

?? Who says this isn't true. Where is the link? (edit, see it now) I've seen her talk about it. I'd like to know more. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

*kicks dirt* - Ayşe E.

Does anyone find it interesting that it was an "old-fashioned" (dead-tree) news organization that published the story and an online column (blog) that researched and debunked the story? So much for the old media being a superior news system. - dthree

Doh! So she doesn't have a PhD either? This story of the doctorate was put out years ago. She's been practicing. What??? - Michelle

April Buchheit

Giant Coconut Crab (birgus latro) - http://www.magazine13.com/giant-c...

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"The coconut crab, Birgus latro, is the largest land-living arthropod in the world, and is probably at the upper limit of how big terrestrial animals with exoskeletons can become in today’s atmosphere. The species inhabits the coastal forest regions of many Indo-Pacific islands, although localized extinction has occurred where the crab is sympatric with man. Generally nocturnal, they remain hidden during the day and emerge only on some nights to forage. Their body is divided into four regions; the cephalic lobe, forepart, trunk, and opisthosoma. It is a highly apomorphic hermit crab and is known for its ability to crack coconuts with its strong pincers to eat the contents. It is the only species of the genus Birgus." - April Buchheit from Bookmarklet

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Man that's creepy. - Lindsay

creepy, yes... but how's it taste? - Jim Hearts FF

Like coconut, I'm guessing. ;-) - Jason Huebel from iPhone

JESUS CHRIST, IT'S A COCONUT CRAB! GET IN THE CAR!!! - Ladybug Heather

Wow! That is crazy. Cool creature - Jim Goldstein from iPhone

RUNN!!! - AJ Batac

*cries* - Derrick

You have to wonder at the first few people to look at that and say to one another "lets eat it" - J. Abdul-Qahhar

They are VERY good to eat, one of my favorite foods from our sailing trip. The only problem is I'm a lobster fan myself so I went straight for the tail. It is filled with a brown goo I called butt butter.. it tastes like smokey peanut butter mixed with saltwater. The claws are fantastic.. better than lobster!! You have to be VERY careful they can snap your fingers off . You better be careful not to overfeed those cure little hermit crabs you all have.. cause that is what you will get!! - Chris Myles

reminds me of the heads crabs in Half-Life. :) - Bryan Lee

Heck yeah, I'd eat that :] That's the capybara of the arthropod world. - Kamilah Gill

Freaking mutant creatures. *Looks for shotgun.* - Danny Minick

They _climb trees_. - Andrew C

http://www.youtube.com/watch... - bob

THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! MUST HIDE!! - Rachel Lea Fox

I never liked playing Half-Life to being with because of the creepy crabs. Now I know they're REAL. - G. Sigh

Kill the zombies by shooting them in the head! - Great Scott!

They can't eat you if you make them dead! - ha3rvey (needs soup)

want! - Private Sanjeev

I wonder how fast are they... I would stare at it for hours. - 'Like' robot (frɐnc)

I wonder how much coconut flavour the meat has. - Andrew C

Not much but it does soften the meat. It's the best darn arthropod meat I have ever tasted. hmm first time I've ever used arthropod and meat in the same sentence. When you kill them (machete into the soft under belly) nothing but coconut liquid comes out (the clear stuff not the milk). Anyone ever tried a coconut apple (the foam that forms inside after a coconut starts to sprout)? yumm! - Chris Myles

Imagine having these for sashimi... - imabonehead

This is where even a hammer makes no difference - Jeunelle Foster

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! run! :) - dafire

They mostly come at night, mostly. - Adi

Nuke the sight from orbit - it's the only way to be sure. - Great Scott!

CmtyChat: Jim Storer

Q1: What do you think companies "fear" most about embracing social media/community?

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That the company will be made to look bad or foolish. - Lee Anne Orange

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Losing control of their brand. - Tanya McGinnity

commitment - Jason Peck

Negativity. - Sue

Control, definitely. I've been in those meetings. @Tanya is dead on. - Angela

Control-oriented people fear others will do things org can't undo. - Marcia Conner

I think some companies fear that it is an investment that they can't gauge a return on. - Tanya McGinnity

Do they fear loss of revenue? Isn't that where the rubber hits the road? - Rachel Happe

re: control... do they know that that ship has already sailed? - Jim Storer

.... add "in most cases" to above question. - Jim Storer

Exces are rewarded on delivering things they can control. Social media and community is risky; people are naturally risk-averse. - Lou Ordorica

Or... are people more worried about loss of their own personal positions & credibility? - Rachel Happe

I spoke to a room full of senior managers for a huge restaurant chain and the fear of not being able to control what others say was so thick you could cut it with a knife. They were very concerned about lies. - Angela

@Lou true but more and more they'll be rewarded on things they influence - can't control anymore, but you can influence - Jason Peck

Each org culture has different things they fear most. One org I work w/: troublemakers recruiting more. Another ppl learning inconsistency of practices. - Marcia Conner

Have execs lost faith in their own product/services that they are that afraid? - Rachel Happe

@angela how did you handle that room? did they come around to the idea? - Jim Storer

People are talking about the "brand" elsewhere anyway. You can't control who talks about you and where. You can however give them a platform closer to home .... eg the "Brands" home. - Sue

@Jason Agree. Companies used to buying influence will have to work harder to earn it. - Lou Ordorica

I tried to assuage their fears by making them realize that the concept of self-moderation *can* kick in. Blatant lies, particularly in an active forum are usually challenged by those who know better. - Angela

Is the whole "United Breaks Guitars" on execs radars... is it impacting your work in that it's feeding the fear? - Jim Storer

another objection i've heard is that this stuff will be obsolete soon --something new/better will be out by the time they launch anything - Jason Peck

Is it the reward and incentive structure of companies that are the root cause of this fear - people being rewarded for the wrong (and only predictable) things? - Rachel Happe

I wonder how United would be perceived if they made a response video on YouTube that was well composed and thought out. - Tanya McGinnity

@Sue, I love the concept of 'closer to home.' - Angela

@Jason .. yes .... some think SM and communities are just a "fad" - Sue

@jason that's an interesting position... not sure i agree with the approach - Jim Storer

@Tanya Yep - "showing them the money" and the ROI is especially important because companies are being very cautious with their spending. - Lou Ordorica

@Jim definitely don't agree with it- just something that's come up before - Jason Peck

@ Anglea Yes it can bring a little more control for the brand that way. At least make them feel like they are in control lol - Sue

@tanya they must be paralyzed at this point... they don't have a receptive community to embrace and spread whatever they have to say. - Jim Storer

I think that some powerful case studies need to be developed around community management to be able to show the ROI. Would love to see examples of tangible lift that would excite "the suits" - Tanya McGinnity

@Jason @Sue You can always point to the numbers of people flocking to facebook, twitter, et al. Social media is here to stay. - Lou Ordorica

loss of control over message and brand. - rustyspeidel

@Jim @Tanya I think United does have a receptive audience -- people interested in the story want to see a response. I think a similar one would be well-received and garner back some respect. - Teresa Basich

@Jim Storer - I hear you. I think that their window of opportunity has closed. Imagine how they could have changed this by offering discounted flights for musicians.. and priority cargo class for guitars - Tanya McGinnity

@tanya what business processes specifically do you think would be most interesting? for case studies of socmed/cmty best practices? - Jim Storer

@ Lou Yes I agree. The numbers speak for themselves - Sue

Biggest fear I am hearing is 'who's going to manage the activity?" Budgets and workforces have been slashed and people are doing 2x 3x the work - adding a labor intensive initiative seems to be a non-starter even in the face of facts that show overwhelming evidence of positive ROI. - Mark Sylvester

@Tanya I have been kicking around some ideas for a slideshare on the ROI of social media / community. There are obvious case study winners like Zappos -- are there others you know of? - Lou Ordorica

@Tanya I'm working on some stories that illustrate ROI from a Community mgmt standpoint. - Angela

GREAT point, @Mark - Teresa Basich

@mark - great point. i hear some of the same. - Jim Storer

@Mark right on point - that's a huge issue - Jason Peck

Part of the problem is that companies have not been hiring for value/perspective fit... and so now they have a huge employee base that they are not entirely sure whether they can trust to speak on behalf of the company... so they need to control the communicaitons - Rachel Happe

we're building a number of case studies with @TheCR members... around cmty mgmt best practices. - Jim Storer

I'm really looking forward to the case studies everyone. - Tanya McGinnity

@Mark, I instituted a rotating sked for monitoring twitter conversation. That approach could be a start. - Angela

@Angela @Jim Would love to see the case studies too! - Lou Ordorica

I have tried showing how you can spend a little time and get great results, but I think I am understating the workload by an order of magnitude. I believe that you get out of the cmty effort what you put into it - so, I think that we need a way to explain this more effectively. - Mark Sylvester

@mark That is dead on. You always have that with any type of investment when money is tight. You have to OVERWHELM the execs to get them to move right now on any investment. - Joe Kikta

Here's a Ford case study that I love by Ron Ploof - http://ronamok.com/2008... - Rachel Happe

Orgs fear people will do foolish things on SM. Yet when I ask, do you hire foolish ppl, they never say "Yes." #cmtychat - Marcia Conner

@ Mark that is spot on. - Sue

anyone want to share successful strategies at helping ppl get past the fear? - Jim Storer

Communities have traditionally helped bottom line through savings on labor-intensive tasks like customer support. I think many firms are looking to "top-line" growth these days -- using social media to build their sales pipeline. - Lou Ordorica

@Mark Personally, my workload is insane. And this coming from a big multi-tasker. As my community grows it is becoming unmanageable and i am sharing that information but don't want to appear a whiner. - Angela

@joe - we have a new strategy - show at least a 3-5x ROI - typically cost savings or revenue enhancement - that will get their attention - then you have to do it - which is the hard part ;-) - Mark Sylvester

@angela - exactly. You can get buried in managing a social media strategy for sure. This is the next big area of concern for us and our clients. I don't think theere is a silver bullet here. I think that things like this weekly chat will help us all learn from each other. - Mark Sylvester

@marciamarcia - that is really a great way to phrase the issue - love it - Rachel Happe

@Angela Has your company been at all receptive to adding people to your team? Or have you not brought it up? - Teresa Basich

I work with IT vendors that provide "ROI calculators" like the savings calculator on the OOma home page (http://www.ooma.com/). Wouldn't it be cool to develop a social media / community ROI calculaor? - Lou Ordorica

@teresa good comment on adding people. I have been suggesting that for the past six weeks to our clients, and been introducing them to freelance cmtymgrs - so far, I have placed 3 of them in part time gigs, which seems to be working out really well (for both) - Mark Sylvester

@Teresa, additional resources for me isn't even an option and that's the issue. We've had layoffs. I am stressing the point but when there's no $, what do you do? - Angela

@lou that would be interesting... i've seen attempts at determining where co's are in social media readiness, but not an ROI calc. - Jim Storer

@Lou I've built software ROI models too..... the problem with social media/community - we have to answer the question of what is the value of a better conversation or a better relationship? Really sticky wicket - Rachel Happe

Sometimes freelance community managers can be the 'gateway drug' for a full time hire once results are seen - Tanya McGinnity

@angela - one thing to consider is that freelance cmtymgr can work remotely and a few hours a week to take some of the administriva off your plate - and might come out of a diff budget - Mark Sylvester

@Angela I hear your plight. You're exactly right, what do you do when there's no money? - Teresa Basich

Hey Mark, can we talk offline at some point about that freelance concept. I'd like to talk that through a bit. - Angela

@tanya #cmtychat is a drug-free zone. :-) - Jim Storer

re: adding people - companies usually want to know what they're going to get out of it in terms of added engagement or revenue or whatever their goal is if they add another person to manage the community. But can be very hard to predict that. - Jason Peck

@Mark, that's fantastic. I think that's a great way to try out new people and increase a team. And expenses are still lower than bringing someone on full time. - Teresa Basich

@mark That freelance approach sounds like a good one. Lower risk to getting your feet wet. - Joe Kikta

@rachel @jim Right -- how do you measure the long-term value of a relationship? I wonder how companies account for "good will" on their balance sheets today? - Lou Ordorica

Its hard with a part-time gig to know when to quit though. Cmty's are 24/7. @mark how do your p/t freelancers balance that? Do they have a set time period they work each day? - Sue

is expanding the role of your member evangelist an option in tough times? - Jim Storer

The moderators I do have are committed to the news side. I manage a team of moderators charged with handling the news content. Leaves the online community uncovered. A diff conversation for a diff day. - Angela

Re: part-time, that's something I'm potentially coming up against. Not sure how it's going to pan out in terms of time dedication. - Teresa Basich

It sounds like we might be ready for "loathing" - coming up... - Jim Storer

@lou - longterm value of a relationship? Look at http://relationshipeconomics.net/ - excellent and powerful case to be made for investing. - Mark Sylvester

@Lou not sure - goodwill is in the bit 'externality' bucket in the sky :) but yes - it would be worth trying to figure out. happier everyone - is that worth something? People happy with each other invest in each other - Rachel Happe

I have some volunteer mods with limited capabilities who are active community members but I hate to admit that i am seeing groupthink take over. May have to dismantle it. Thinking it over on my vacation which starts in 3.5 hours. - Angela

I think canned SM ROI calculators are a bit dangerous. Follow @thebrandbuilder's blog for great ROI info. - Joe Kikta

Speaking of SM influence, have you seen Anthem's http://sn.im/Health-Footprint? Focuses on how your health influences the circle around you. #cmtychat - Marcia Conner

I agree with you, @Joe. Not sure how you would go about calculating relationship value, sentiment, etc. - Teresa Basich

Hey guys, I only had 30 minutes to spare today. I'll read the archives and catch up with you all in two weeks. Best... - Angela

The risk of using freelancers for community management is similar to outsourcing bloggers to write for your audience. If the paychecks stop, you and your customers may be left high and dry. - Lou Ordorica

@Angela - Have a great vacation! - Rachel Happe

@Joe, thanks for the tip! - Lou Ordorica

@angel Are you solely in charge of managing your community? If so who manages it when you are on vacation, do you "clock in" every day? - Sue

just added Q2 below (or above) - Jim Storer

Bye Angela - Sue

@Angela, enjoy your time off! - Lou Ordorica

@Lou You have to prepare for the potential of paychecks stopping. I'd imagine it'd be the same losing anyone who's integral to a team or organizations functioning, as a full-time employee being laid off or a long-term freelancer being cut from the payroll. - Teresa Basich

the unknown, and loss of control - Larae Junior

@Teresa excellent point. Best of all worlds is to have a combination of paid and volunteer leaders in the community, to keep things going during times of change. - Lou Ordorica

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Amazing iPhone app lets you measure distance using echoes (and it works too) - http://thenextweb.com/2009...

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I wish Twitter would sell to Google so it would die like Jaiku and Dodgeball. But I won't post this over on Twitter. I really don't have much love for the service, even though I know I'll be stuck using it for the indefinite future. Jesse Stay has it figured out. It's a horrid place to try to communicate anything other than a bit of self pimping.

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Here I can write the equivilent of an entire blog post. And even make changes. And even have a conversation. And use it as many times an hour as I want (Twitter rate limits my apps after a while cause I'm too heavy of a user). - Robert Scoble

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werd. - imabonehead

I can sense already that FriendFeed is slowing down now that it is joining Facebook, while Twitter still has the best flow (and best system for following people and best mobile clients). So, we're stuck with Twitter, which is too bad, because the technology here is a ton better. - Robert Scoble

Twitter is a piece of crap - BUT it's where the audience is (currently). - Jim Connolly

Now it is starting to feel like FF again with you bigging it up again Robert ;) - Travis Koger

Twitter is the new MySpace. - imabonehead

Maybe google wave will change the way we use twitter, etc. again. Haven't tried it yet, but it might succeed where friendfeed "failed" - getting enough people to use it. - Frank S.

Travis: I had to go and clean out my Twitter and Facebook accounts and spread out my usage. - Robert Scoble

Agreed! - Friendfeed is so much better (for as long as it really lasts in Facebook world...) - Matthew Blaisdell from iPhone

Robert: I'm thinking of setting up a facebook account for my Marketing blog - what do you think? - Jim Connolly

@Scobleizer I don't think Friendfeed would be quite so popular if it weren't for twitter - Prolific Programmer from IM

Twitter is the new Myspace - HAHA - this quote made my day. For me it is just becoming a multiplicator for my friendfeed but it is important for that! - Sascha Pallenberg

Prolific: I'm not so sure. Blogs made Twitter. So, what if there were no Twitter? We would still talk up something else. But maybe FriendFeed wouldn't have thrived anyway. Twitter hit a sweet spot with its easy to program API, it's easy to use interface, and its cute name and branding. - Robert Scoble

Twitter works extremely well on mobile devices. I constantly see people tweeting whereas it's more difficult to do with FriendFeed's interface for a typical user. - imabonehead

Really think that Twitter is annoying it's users too much. There's some problems out there that are really being ignored. Here's an example of a problem that could be solved very simply, but no action is being taken (if it was solved it'd create a lot of goodwill) http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter... - Edd McArdle

Robert, now that FriendFeed's people are working for Facebook, and since Facebook has already been making changes to make it more "open socially", do you think eventually that Facebook will become the best place to have serious conversations? - Carlton Hackett

Carlton: yes. - Robert Scoble

I've been thinking so too. Although, I wonder how the non-Soc/net junkies will respond to that? - Carlton Hackett

Robert, two thoughts. #1 - do you think Google really would let it die? Acquiring Twitter would be more like its YouTube acquisition than Jaiku (in terms of price and # of users). Secondly, what would Twitter have to change for you to change your opinion? - Ben Parr

I really, really, really want Twitter to work out is the thing. It's just a pain in the neck to communicate without either losing the conversation or spamming useless banter over multiple Tweets because you can't fit it in 140 characters. That's just my experience. Those still spending most their time there don't mind it I guess. - Jesse Stay

I like Twitter. The conversation flows pretty well for me, and to be fair, I get more @replies there than I get replies here to my posts. - Chris Nixon

I think a combination of the Retweet API and a true threaded replies architecture and UI could change some of my opinion on that though if they do it. - Jesse Stay

Jesse: It's NOT just your experience. Twitter is getting less valuable the bigger it gets. The spam / porn / bots issue is insane and ruining the experience. - Jim Connolly

Chris: I have a twitter account with over 20,000 followers and get ten times as many replies here as I get there. Here I only have a small following. The calibre of people I connect with here is better too. - Jim Connolly

Jesse, have Twitter improved their communication with developers since you wrote about it in April? - Edd McArdle

Edd, over the last week I have noticed a difference, yes, but it's hard to tell if it will remain that way. They now seem to have a project manager over the API dev team (Ryan Sarver). He seems to be putting a filter on some things and keeping devs updated elsewhere. They're still learning though, much slower than FB or FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

agree on spam and bots, but it still is a nice little thing, if it remains what it was made for! marketing and reviewing thing isn't/shouldn't be there, true friendfeed is more effective as a tool for sending your message across, it is simple and strong - testbeta

Testbeta: ... and FF works. - Jim Connolly

Jim, Jesse, Robert: Value varies. For me, Twitter value continues to increase. I use it to find out what's happening, meet up with people, get random insights into how people are doing, find new people. It all works well. There are many different use cases and one tool does not have to do them all. - Rachel Clarke

i couldn't agree more! - lilian

Rachel: "It all works well"? Really? Twitter? - Jim Connolly

Rachel, I agree with you. I just don't think Twitter works well for conversations, that's all. I use FriendFeed and Facebook for that. I use Twitter for different purposes, and I agree it does still have value. - Jesse Stay

sometimes i think of Automattic's intense debate, but well friendfeed is intense debate, such a experience was never had on blogs, the commenting, liking, and so fast it propagates, even disqus commenting systems can't achieve what we have here on friendfeed, but i can't just throw away twitter, twitter still is good, true for the serious types it's word limit, reply system is a bit of... more... - testbeta

I would love to have FriendFeed as the commenting system on my blog. - Chris Nixon

Chris, there are a few plugins that do that. I haven't tried them though. - Jesse Stay

Chris: Check out what Scoble's doing with FF on building43.com - Jim Connolly

Jim: yes. It works well for what I want it to do (I'm ignoring the ongoing issues with the DDOS). It's a free tool that adds far more value than it costs me to wait for odd outage. - Rachel Clarke

Just checked your Twitter account and now understand exactly what you are saying. - Jim Connolly

Jesse: agree, I use Facebook, Friendfeed, blogs, comments etc, all for different things. I even use the phone as a phone occasionally to talk with people ;-) But the assumption that one tool/service can do everything - and should do everything - is something I have a problem with. If something does not work for a person, don't use it. - Rachel Clarke

The twitter ecoverse is cool, can do Psychological Profiles, can do Social Network Analysis. All those services that spawned as a result are amazing. I am also amazed at how dense Asians Languages are on Twitter, think about it they get about 60% more per tweet. - Robert Higgins

Ben: at this point I am not sure what Twitter could do to win back my love. I will use it just like I use AT&T and United Airlines. I have very little love for those even though I use them frequently. Twitter wins because it is simple and flat and has great clients. I wouldn't cry if it disappeared, though. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

So why do you hate it? - Raanan Avidor

You are a hypocrite! I remember you use to sing the praises of Twitter all the time. Another toy comes along and you start bashing it. If I was Friendfeed management I would cancel your account now before you start bashing them. Robert Scoble is nothing but a follower of crowds anyway. - Paul L. McCord Jr.

You want it to die? Such an odd statement. I have met so many great people through Twitter, and the news information I can find through search or news agencies or even people who are newshounds are amazing. I know it's not perfect and the last few weeks have definately proved that, and the spam is just awful. But to want to kill it, what a strong statement. - PC Easy from twhirl

Twitter is not abot writing blog posts or having conversations, its about small pieces of information being communicated to anyone who wants to listen. You do not have to listen, if you want a conversation use a forum or FriendFeed, use WordPress for blog posts. Stop trying to make Twitter into something it is not designed to be. - Darren Rollett

I really used to like Twitter, still do sometimes. What I don't like is the Twitter hype. I don't seem able to turn on any media channel these days without reading/hearing or watching about it. Even the BBC reported that Twitter was under attack recently on the main BBC news. FFS come on, there must be more happening in the world than a micro blogging site with a few million users... more... - Nick Bristow

If you owned twitter would you sell to google? - cheapsuits from iPhone

Robert, Atleast something positive could come out of it. If Twitter sells to Google they might(though its not guaranteed) make it opensource and then a federation of twitter server(ala wave servers) can co-exist happily and that way we'll own our stuff(as Anil Dash and other points out). Or they might integrate it in Wave framework. Not that people are not gonna complain about it but thats a different topic. - Abhishek

Surely an improvement in the service would be a more positive wish? - Chris Nixon

Say what you want but something with the architecture of friendfeed is far more conversational then twitter could ever be. - cheapsuits

I don't know why people think Twitter is the place to converse. It's really not built for that. I find myself enjoying the flow of conversations more on Facebook and FriendFeed. - Naomi Williams

Self pimping? Hmmm... Perhaps not for all of us. And besides, self-pimping isn't limited to twitter. - @JonAston

PS - Maybe it's just me, but you seem bitter lately. Hope you turn that around for yourself. - @JonAston

Jon: You are right. People pimp on FriendFeed too; as I say in my new book.... :-) - Jim Connolly

@jim, they will do anywhere, this is human nature, they do even in real life, so why not in virtual one? - abdellah

Abdellah: Absolutely. - Jim Connolly

"(Twitter) It's a horrid place to try to communicate anything other than a bit of self pimping." AMEN - Alejandro

Personally I wish Google would buy both Facebook and Twitter so they could both die. - Brian Sullivan

@brian, hey where could I read to you then?!! - abdellah

@Frank S. Google Wave will only be valid if you actually have other friends/collegues who use Google Wave. Otherwise you'll be using it with the *crickets* - Naomi Williams

Oh yeah -- forgot that due to circumstances beyond our control FF is now Facebook. ;-) - Brian Sullivan

oh yeah , they share the same vision, they got the same perception... - abdellah

It's the ff interface (developers) that make it great, but it's really you guys and gals, the people friendfeed attracted that make it valuable to me. Let's consider a real migration to a more reliable long term social media. It has to be open (data portable, unsellable) to get my trust - Mark Essel from iPhone

I hope the FaceBook people will take comments like these to heart. I do like twitter but the functionality FriendFeed brought was the next generation in stream notification. - Chris Jackson

Ohh time to pimp Jim's new book on Twitter ;) - Mark Essel from iPhone

Mark: Yeah - all I need is a title. Oh, and a book....and the time to write one....then I will be pimping like a pro! - Jim Connolly

Wow Robert, I was thinking this the past few days and could never bring it to words...well done - Braden Douglass

Jim: I'm time bankrupt but love sharing and collaborating. Let's hire a ghostwriter to capture our best ideas in an intelligible manner :). Joking of course, there's no easy way to spread our thoughts but doing it ourselves - Mark Essel from iPhone

I was gonna call the Funky Phantom. (That really dates me.) - Jim Connolly

Robert, I challenge you to stop using Twitter for a month and then blog about the experience. And that includes hiding all Tweets in FF. - Mike Doeff from iPhone

Lets face it, Twitter was built as an update service - a big Internet megaphone. The natural transition has been from update service to marketing service. Big Internet Megaphone. It's good at that, but it's not at conversations nor at discovery. The larger problem is people still approach Twitter like a true social engagement tool - and it's simply not. The disconnect between perception and reality results in the poor adoption numbers and other soft metrics. - AJ Kohn

twitter is noise. filter it and you can find some gold. imho, that's beyond mere self-pimpage - Rob Schieber

Agreed Rob. I'd prefer semantic algorithms applied to all tweets. I'm interested in real time search and datamining. And semantic extraction on all status would allow for real time "sorting" - Mark Essel from iPhone

i'd love to meetup with fellows and see what api scraping is going on - know where threads are for that? - Rob Schieber

Idk, This seems so much better then twitter. - SeanParnell

It does have a lot of noise, granted - but if it went away now, I'm not sure where everyone would run to. Facebook is too silly, Linkedin is too stolid, and everything else is too fractured for me to communicate with all the people I want to in a single shot. Guess I'd end up doing everything through ping.fm after all. - Ciaoenrico

Wow, Isn't online chit-chat such a fuss? :) - SeanParnell

Robert, just a week or two you were saying that Twitter is beating FriendFeed because of scanability http://friendfeed.com/scoblei.... And you had lots of complaints about the FriendFeed user interface. You also talked about how Twitter was much better after you un-followed everyone and hand picked who you're following. I have to ask, what has changed in the past few days to make you say that the service should die? Feels like you're flip flopping. - Mike Doeff

Can't you apply for extended API limits? - Tristan Seligmann

love the single post/status page, i mean like this: http://twitter.com/twitter... - testbeta

I noticed that in the past two weeks, the tweet intensity has greatly decreased from all my follows in Twitter. Granted, I'm not following too many, but the ones I do follow have traditionally tweeted a lot each day. Is this a trend (has Twitter become a has been) or is this simply a coincidental anomaly? - Jeff Sayre

Robert I find myself on friendfeed more these days - (jeff)isageek

@brian would you consider myspace if both facebook and twitter die?!!(ps: sorry I forget the LOL) - abdellah

Myspace -- don't know. I haven't really tried or paid attention to it. But probably not -- isn't it Facebook like? Maybe usenet? ;-) - Brian Sullivan

brian, let forget all those techie and go irc :) - abdellah

IMO, people who don't like the limitations of Twitter and whine about it hampering them are using it wrong. Twitter is not a place to pimp your blog or drive traffic to your site. It is not an SEO tool. It's not a place for you to compete in order to get more 'followers'. If you've ever tried to do any of these things, or if you ever followed more than a few hundred people, then yes, no... more... - Otto

Well said Otto - Chris Nixon

Jesse Stay: you should stop complaining so much about twitter when you build an entire business based on their lack of functionality and other issues. - Mihai Secasiu

Mihai, I'm not complaining - they can do what they want. As I said I really want them to succeed. It's a matter of fact that they do have their flaws - I'm hoping to help them fix those, assuming they're listening at all. What are you doing to help Twitter get better? - Jesse Stay

it is like twitter if for what,where, when and friendfeed is for why, how - testbeta

Mike: just because I use a service doesn't mean I love it. I use ATT and United all the time and they suck too. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

And yes Twitter has some good things about it. Doesn't mean it is all good. Personally it is overused and overhyped and YES I am partially responsible. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Apostol I get value out of Twitter. You aren't listening. I get value out of AT&T too but it COULD be so much more. Chris I tried to be positive but Twitter just doesn't respond to positivity. Plus they are cynical AT BEST about their users. Read the Twittergate documents to see just how cynical they are. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Twitter was just there at the right time. It's not the best solution to the problem (microblogging), but it's good ~enough~. - Trent Hamm

You seriously think Twitter will die once it gets bought by a 'bigger' company? - Mike Shields

Mike: do you use Dodgeball? It was bought by Google. So was Jaiku. - Robert Scoble

Trent: did you just call Twitter the Microsoft of microblogging? Yeah, that's sorta what I was trying to say too! ;-) - Robert Scoble

I just find it amazing that all the early adopters get really snobby about Twitter now it is getting more mainstream. There is something snobby about people's attitude to Facebook as well. I'm not a fan of Facebook but I know more people who use Facebook than use Twitter or Friendfeed combined. Even my mum has a Facebook account but she'd never be on Twitter or Friendfeed. Twitter... more... - Paul Nash

I liked Pownce. I wonder what SixApart has cooking up for them. So there's really no chance for Plurk to make a comeback and take back the community? With all the outage problems Twitter has, I would think Plurk would try to capitalize on that. Guess not. - John Wang

now if the Google Reader team could just get their new commenting system streamlined and real-time ... :) - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Paul: it's not hard to understand if you are in our shoes. Here's why. When a company is young and struggling to get noticed, they love having early adopters. After all, that's the ONLY WAY a company gets to the next stage. I've never seen a company go straight to Oprah stage without getting early adopters excited. Then once the company gets enough traction they usually start mistreating the early adopters. In this case Twitter stabbed them in the back. Leo Laporte, for instance ... - Robert Scoble

...got me excited about Twitter and was THE REASON it was the big huge deal at that 2007 SXSW. He had more followers than Mashable last year. But did he get put on the Suggested User List? No. So now Mashable has more than a million and Leo has a knife in his back. And you think it's amazing that early adopters turn their backs on Twitter? Really now. - Robert Scoble

I don't see how Leo has a knife in his back. There was no preconceived notion that anyone would be added to that list. Who cares? He was fine before that list was created, and he can be just as fine now, and just as engaging. - Andru Edwards

Andru: when he was hyping up the service and telling his users to use it, he was getting something in return: being at the top of the follower lists. When Twitter artificially put its own people at the top of the follower lists, and handed out grants of followers (worth many hundreds of thousands of dollars, by the way -- Mashable has changed its entire business to be Twitter centric) they specifically dissed Leo and many others. Most of whom won't point it out in public. - Robert Scoble

Sadly true. I'm in much the same boat -- Twitter is a necessity for professionals and bloggers to stay on top of things, but other socialnets like Brightkite and FF are light years beyond it, which doesn't look to be changing any time soon. Don't even get me started on the spammers and the get-rich-quick'ers. - Ryan Meader

But before the SUL was released, didn't Leo abandon Twitter in favor of Jaiku, due to Twitter having "Twit" as part of its name? Just saying, if I owned a list that I had complete control over, and someone showed that behavior towards me (whether it was right or wrong, I am not judging), I would think twice before putting them on a list that will result in many people seeing they they... more... - Andru Edwards

I can't agree with you more, Robert. - Jon Ursenbach

Scobe: I very much disagree that it is about self pimping. Perhaps your senses are mush because you follow too many? I absolutely love getting that link to a new article or research, or to get a tweet from that celeb that makes me think and provides insight into a new world. I also use it as a research tool, for exploratory purposes. Twitter, as you know very well, is about what you make it, and that is a tenuous notion that really is influenced by who you follow. - Chad Gesser

Andru: again, the list did NOT exist in the days when we were hyping up Twitter. So, there was a "promise" to early adopters that if they invested time in the service they could be at the top of the follower lists. Sort of how PlayFoursquare is today promising users that they can become mayors of places they frequent more than anyone else. What Twitter did was the equivilent of PlayFoursquare telling everyone that their "mayorship" doesn't matter anymore and that Oprah is now mayor of everywhere. - Robert Scoble

Chad: one thing you have to remember about me is that I see that Twitter has 1,001 uses. Stop seeing the world as black and white. This is one post I'm making about Twitter among thousands. Translation: I already agreed with you. But you have to admit that many people use Twitter for self promotion. - Robert Scoble

Andru: and anyway, the SUL is hardly the only reason to diss Twitter. Twitter still goes down all the time, it still has stupid rate limits. It still can't block spam effectively. It still has no friend management. It still has no features that didn't exist a year ago. And it is, in many respects, behaving worse. I'm hearing from developers that Twitter is becoming more closed, not more open (to monetize) and we're seeing them pick winners before the marketplace is done (bit.ly anyone?) - Robert Scoble

The nice thing about Twitter is that it keeps your message short and to the point. Friendfeed is great but it doesn't lend itself well to an external app out of the browser. Also FriendFeed and any of these services you don't own your content - Seth Goldstein

Seth: bing! So, back to the blog we will go. Except, why are we still here? ;-) - Robert Scoble

Awww Twitter the "me" network :) - Wayne Sutton from iPhone

Anyone tried Streamy? - cheapsuits

because the interraction is in real time - abdellah

Wayne: retweet me. :-) abdellah: I thought it was because of all the sex. ;-) - Robert Scoble

that was my expectation too ;) - abdellah

I like friendfeed because of its realtimeyness, but I like twitter because it requires you to be concise. I have seen some brilliant tweets done in 140 characters or less. I think that's always been the allure of twitter, its sheer simplicity. How many features can you add to twitter without actually changing the core of what twitter is? - Tomy Thomson

Robert: But what do you want from these companies ? Chaps like you give them the oxygen of publicity they need and they court you and then when they become successful you suddenly start to criticise them. Friendfeed has become successful (in great part to your endless plugging of it) and the founders will now go on to make money through their company being taken over by Facebook. You,... more... - Paul Nash

Scoble: no doubt....I can deal with the self promotion, the e marketing and spam garbage though to me is what has gooootttt to go - Chad Gesser

Paul: my role in life is to use what will be, not what is. I don't turn on many companies, but Twitter isn't one that dealt with early adopters on good faith. - Robert Scoble

nick: I explained why above. - Robert Scoble

Is there a "social media" company that has dealt with early adopters in "good faith"? Facebook, FriendFeed, Flickr I suspect don't qualify ? Any that do? - Brian Sullivan

all platforms seem to have self pimpering styles, why so passionate against twitter? Objectional question, not one of rhetoric. - nick tadd

Brian: I didn't know that any of those have actively dissed their best early adopters. Facebook kicked me off, but only because I broke the TOS. It's always been straight up with me. Same with Flickr, although I do watch Thomas Hawk's talk about their censorship. - Robert Scoble

none as brian says, they all deal with them, and "the earlier adopter" contribute to their evolution until they sell (sorry) - abdellah

nick: because it's so prevalent there. "Look at my blog post about xxx" is almost a staple on Twitter. It's a new RSS reader. Which is fine, I use it too for that! :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert, I think you may have the makings for one of your future blogs here. Perhaps you do it for that reason? ;) The thing about Twitter is always going to be its LBE. It's a mainstream LBE to Social Media. For that very reason its perfect for business, government, and non profit to take public temperature and promote. The other "noise" is the "MV", the "mainstream voice". The conversation is 4 way.(and yes sometimes only 1 way) but there it is and its not going to go away any time soon. - Melanie Reed

Yes, indeed, Twitter is the Microsoft of microblogging. It's good enough, but not the best - but it has the huge advantage that everyone is using it, so you have to use it for compatibility reasons. - Trent Hamm

I still use Twitter for more than just updates. I converse, I crowdsource, and I read through to see what other people are thinking and talking about. FriendFeed is the one that I have a difficult time finding use for, but I'm trying. - Dave Huston

DAMN Robert I HATE that you are right on this one!!!!! - Arleen Anderson

Hopefully you use it for positive self pimping and not for negative pimping... which is inevitable - Kevin Burrell

If FF would have taken mobile seriously, the game might look different right now - Alex C. Williams

Alex, they are taking mobile seriously - they sold to Facebook. :-) - Jesse Stay

I can't see how Twitter can survive Facebook now. FB will bring Twitter down, the only chance they got is to sell to Google. - Patrik Johansson

What makes people think Facebook or Twitter is all-conquering? There's a new generation coming through, and they aren't using these services. It's very important not to get sucked in by the hype of a service you use. Fanboys will talk up the positives and ignore the negatives, giving you a skewed message. The truth is somewhere in the massive grey area in between. - Chris Nixon

The new generation uses Facebook a lot, but not Twitter. - Steph (sh_skew) from email

Let me say that it is not twitter per se. It is the population of twitter to make it the place it is at the moment. Whenever there is a (free entrance) place crowded of people, there will be spambots to pollute it. - funkyboy from Posty

Twitter is just a temporary solution for a quick mixture of instant messaging + status updates + chat forum. - Bora Wiemann

Just having a discussion today that Twitter will eventually go bankrupt when the hype is over - Khuram Hussain

I don't agree with you Robert. Twitter is easy to use, succinct and versatile. I've made multiple very meaningful connections through my use of twitter. I do like friendfeed's threaded conversations which are great but in a way it only helps those who have big followings like yourself, because people are more apt to comment on your thread than say mine because they know the conversation... more... - Lon Cohen

For example - how do I message you directly so you know I'm speaking to you (i.e. Twitter @ reply) but all your followers and my followers know that we're having a conversation in Twitter back and forth so that they can follow and interject when they want. Everytime we do that we have to start a brand new discussion thread and I have to "tell" you somehow that I'm talking to you. Twitter is like email/phone conversations and friendfeed is like collective blogging/commenting. - Lon Cohen

Amen, Robert. - Lindsay

The power and beauty of twitter originate from limitation. Think of it as conversation haiku. - Brendan

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Why I love FriendFeed: I've gotten to see my friends fall in love, get married, and have babbies. I've tried to comfort friends who've lost those they love, and those battling for their lives. You are awesome people who just happen to post interesting stuff from around the web, not the other way around =)

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Tina, wow. I've never really thought of that way before but you're right: we ARE awesome! - Akiva Moskovitz

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Please note: I said "awesome people", not "awesome sheep"... ;-) - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

[crying while self-shearing] - Akiva Moskovitz

baa? - Tom Horn

Tom: hover over Akiva's name =) - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Ahh :). I was mostly being silly. Actually, I am mostly being silly. - Tom Horn

LOL! That's ok, because silly is also one of the reasons I love FriendFeed. And since Akiva is self-shearing I suppose he would make it into 'awesome' under the silly clause. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

As a self-shearing sheep, Akiva has guaranteed employment. - Spidra Webster

well said tina - (jeff)isageek

Tina, FF the awsome people's 'watering hole" :)- we share, just about everything, I think ! - Peter Dawson

That's why I love FriendFeed, too :D - joey

:) - Josh Haley

Ohh thank you :) - Melissa Taylor

Totally agreed, Tina. Just want to thank everyone again for all the well-wishes for Harold's & my engagement. The response went far beyond what I expected :) That's part of why I love this place, too. On Facebook, I barely caused a blip of response (granted, I spend very little time over there). Even the GReader people that just met me were supportive! I love all of you guys! *group hug* - Kamilah Gill

You too, Tina! *hugs - Shevonne

Kamilah, I loved that you and Harold both posted the announcement at the same time. It was like your own personal moment of win =D - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Hooray for us! - Mark Essel

Tina, you nailed what it's all about Girl!! The world is better because we share more, communicate more... we love more... more different people we've come to know, love more deeply those we already know, and know one another to levels that were previously not possible. Aloha! - Arleen Anderson

:) You and FF are the best! - Tracy Benham

Yeahhhh for Tina ,,, !!!!!!! - johnpiercy

Group Hug indeed!! <3 - jcunwired

Demi Moore

Ok trying out friendfeed....any suggestions?

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try streamy!!! - Alejandra Benevento

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I am trying it to. Hope you will follow me. - Charlotte Frum

Just a request; can you teach me once you've learned, I'm still learning Facebook! I'm good on twitter...lol, love ya DM - Justin Dee

Had the same idea at nearly the exact same time... Great minds... ;o) - bethany

http://friendfeed.com/adrianb... ?? :) - Adrian Burns

I love facebook. Had trouble at first but love it now. The games are fun. - Charlotte Frum

Make a theme in your settings :) FriendFeed is much better than twitter. - Sam Guzman

Yeah! Vote and RT for @BodeSunValley for cutest puppy! :) thanks! http://www.cutestdogcompetition.com/vote... - Lauren Zondag

Well, give it a good go, and you will love the way it all works, compared to twitter, other than that, it may seem a bit of a lot to deal with at first, but there is so many threads of help and advice here, it won't take long to get to grips with ;o) Welcome by the way... leave hubby outside tho lol.. friendfeed may crash! ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Okay I'm here too! Seems cool, have you dicovered anything new and different? - Tracy Ferry

How are Demi? What are you working on? - Charlotte Frum

Oh, you will see this is way better for conversations. - Sam Guzman

trying it too it beteer then twitter you can see the feeds instead of waiting great thank you mrs moore - antony march

It's like chat. Right? can anyone read it or only people following you,etc.? - Charlotte Frum

Charlotte: Yes, anyone can read it. It's different than chat in that it doesn't dissappear. Conversations are accessible months later and with their own url. Make sense? - Sam Guzman

oh. i like this more! interaction! - Keilah Sanchez

me too, i just join this friendfeed right now! - charlene chua

Oh thanks Sam. That's great! Love it. Hope it catches on. - Charlotte Frum

demi, lets start a secret chain.... i'll say one of mine and you contine. i borrow cleaning gear from my apartment complex & replace before anyone sees :) - Keilah Sanchez

Start following people on here... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Uh!!!! Oh nevermind, I just can't...lol - Bill Heslin

Holden, considering it just posted to her twitter account, it seems like it is. - Sam Guzman

Holden.. yeah it is. ;o) hopefully more "ordinary" people join.. lol.. no offence to anyone here... :o) :P Just.. you know what I mean ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

hook up your twitter, facebook, blog sites, whatever. This is so much cleaner and neater. - Kimba Rudd

I'M JUST TRYING FRIENDFEED ITS NICE!?I LIKE IT? - Rosa

This is great Ashton gets me addicted to Twitter and now Demi gets me hooked on this LOL you guys are great <3 to you both - Jessica Williams

Hey Rob, I know what you mean. I wish more people would use FF. Too bad it just got bought by Facebook! - Sam Guzman

like it - antony march

yeah.. 100% right there Holden, and she gets to keep tweets together ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

This site is great ! I love this. This is going to catch on no troubles - Jessica Williams

Demi, Welcome to FF and all the new FF'rs in this thread, Check out http://friendfeed.com/friendf... for some great starter tips. Oh and listen to Holden...He is the God of FF :) - Bill Heslin

Thanks Bill !! checking it out now :) - Jessica Williams

I thought you would like that Holden :) - Bill Heslin

i don't get this? - Tina Haight

what don't you get Tina? - Rob Sellen :o)

What makes me laugh is that everyone is loving friendfeed all of a sudden, when it's been around for like two years, as awesome as ever. No one knew about it though! I really think it could have been a Twitter killer if the right people joined. - Sam Guzman

i'm not sure- it doesn't tell me who is who - Tina Haight

Really this was around 2 years ago? - Jessica Williams

You are right Sam... it WILL be too... if it stays..IF faceache don't drop it that is ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

is demi seeing this right now? i don't get it. lol - Tina Haight

she can see this if she is watching it - Jessica Williams

so it's just like a chat room? - Tina Haight

tina.. what you mean? - Rob Sellen :o)

Sam, I think all the tweets that generated from here about the Facebook buyout is bringing more people in now. Unfortunately as we know, it's a little too late..but we are going to hang in there... :) - Bill Heslin

NO tina.. its like twitter but in REAL time... and threaded.. demi WILL see this.. then go.. WTF?? how did that happen.. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

so essentially it is a chat room that mated with twitter? - Jessica Williams

Bill... I think it was PART of the plan.. why techcrunch broke it.. and why they sold to faceache.. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Or she is watching this right now going WTF?? and laughing - Jessica Williams

This is great i love this lol - Jessica Williams

i just got here 16 min ago i have demi and ashton since that is how i got here through her twitter - Jessica Williams

jessica... Tina... sub to me.. oh.. just saw holden post.. and him ;o) then just ask if ya get lost. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Im working on it kk - Jessica Williams

Real time rocks...Oh shit...I can't keep banging the drum! Or can I? LOL sure I can.... - Bill Heslin

how to sub.. hover over our names... use the pop up.. - Rob Sellen :o)

how do i find my friend list - Lynn

ok ok im subin im subin !! - Jessica Williams

now.. click do you ONLY have this post in your home tab?? if so.. you see it as it grows.. i opened this thread in new tab alone.. do that by clicking the TIME stamp under demis pic.. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

never heard of this, but I am willing to try new things. - Nita Wertz Ernst

lynn.. do you sub to anyone yet? - Rob Sellen :o)

k rob thanks i got it woots i subbed !!! - Jessica Williams

yes several - Lynn

but there is no list like twitter - Lynn

Welcome - Alejandro

Ok folks, the difference between friend feed and a chat room is that a chatroom doesn't aggregate all your social media activity. friendfeed pulls in your activity from a bunch of social media sites, like youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. but also provides the functionality of twitter and a chat room. So basically it's your social media life on steroids. Very powerful. - Sam Guzman

Lynn... on the right hand side.. is your friends... - Rob Sellen :o)

demi?!?! lol - Tina Haight

thanks rob & Holden I'll try that - Lynn

Very cool. If you like PostSecret, you should check out www.SecretRegrets.com. - SecretRegrets

Demi started this great convo and walked away :( lol - Jessica Williams

I'm still new at this but it's growin on me, thanks for all the help - Lynn

piss off with the spam crap.... everyone.. you can BLOCK or hide idiots like secretregrets... ironic.. you will regret the spam.. lol.. NO_ONE will see it.. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

hmmm - Sparkles

she could be reading and learning like the rest of us - Lynn

jessica... yeah.. but wit till she pops in.. she will go..WTF!!!!! how the hell.. hang on.. why are all these people chatting!!! ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

didn't facebook purchase or absorb friendfeed?? - Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan

in real time...lol.... - Rob Sellen :o)

lol Rob - Jessica Williams

no kidding - Jessica Williams

mercedes.. yes, they did.. two nights ago - Rob Sellen :o)

how do you block or hide spam - Lynn

Jessica.. you can also send replies to the tweets to titter from here... - Rob Sellen :o)

Yup figured that out already thanks :) - Jessica Williams

lynn.. to block him.. CLICK his name.. block ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Engage other people in conversation. Best advice I can give. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from fftogo

Lynn. You will not find too much Spam on FF - Bill Heslin

That then HIDES all of his comments.. thats WHY this place is SPAM free.. and we would like to KEEP it that way.. so use the block with spammers... they will soon go back to...twitter lol ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I really wish we could get a bunch of celebs on here and keep friendfeed from disappearing! - Sam Guzman

i'm waiting for her- this is my excitement for the night. hah - Tina Haight

done thanks again this is kinda confusing but fun - Lynn

EVERYONE who follows her who is on here.. should tweet http://bit.ly/8dSsK << that to her ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

What's the difference between this and twitter?? - Annette Baldwin

real time - Jessica Williams

And yea i was really hoping to just say hello to her i hope she pops on soon - Jessica Williams

OOHHH thanks - Annette Baldwin

annete... apples and pips... lol apples being this place ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

sry holden didnt mean to step on ur toes :) - Jessica Williams

yep he gone - Lynn

Im on here now too! - Samantha Scheideler

anyone gonna TWEET that link to her??? - Rob Sellen :o)

welcome Samantha ! - Jessica Williams

Well, this should be interesting... - Michael McKean

http://bit.ly/8dSsK <<< tweet it... - Rob Sellen :o)

Thanks jessica williams - Samantha Scheideler

:) ^5 to u holden - Jessica Williams

Blamedrewscancer.com - pls spread the word - Liza

are there any size limits to the characters typed? - Lynn

Just in time for the big moving sale! Enjoy like there is no tomorrow! - Martha

Rob, so when you post to twitter it auto posts to ff or vice versa - Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan

i have no idea jsut started. i lik this its like twitter but alsso like a chat room in a way. - Samantha Scheideler

lia.. don't treat this place like twitter... drew USES this place, and that word gets spread ;o) now I #blamedrewscancer for you doing that ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

good I hate getting cut off and I'm no good at the new shorthand - Lynn

yes merc.. - Rob Sellen :o)

GREAT - @drew is on here, but I am spreading the word as long as he is not on the thread. I #blamedrewscancer that he is missing this. - Liza

huh? - Tina Haight

rob s and holden !got it thanks - what else is there to know? - Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan

No i havent only Demi Moore. I literally just started this im learning how to use it still. - Samantha Scheideler

I don't believe it is Demi. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

don't believe what is demi? her twitter? - Tina Haight

Robert: it posted to her twitter account.. - Sam Guzman

this is Demi :) - Jessica Williams

lots merc... just have a look around.. you can create list of people here.. import stuff.. click your settings under your name on the top right.. have a PEEK ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Either Demi is reading the FF beginners group, or she just hasn't figured out how to read FF yet, and doesn't see all this wonderful Real time conversation that can't happen on Twitter..But anyway, back to my regular feed have fun everyone. Any questions...Just ask Holden LOL - Bill Heslin

it is her.... i knowe for a fact - Samantha Scheideler

OK I believe! :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

She brought us all here from Twitter - Jessica Williams

and then abandoned us. haha - Tina Haight

ha.. Robert is.. wrong.. (for once he would argue) ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I know :( but im sure she had a reason i imagine she is a busy woman - Jessica Williams

The biggest user on FF - Sam Guzman

will do! - Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan

lol i know right. just like ashton jsut posted on twitter and i responded to somthing he aid and nothig yet - Samantha Scheideler

Uhm, where is the Friendfeed crew - wish they would chime in since they got the payday. - Liza

Holden... don't tell them that... its Alex... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I just had a great dinner in San Antonio - Robert Scoble from iPhone

liza... they are all users here... - Rob Sellen :o)

oops sorry for all the typos i have acrylics on - Samantha Scheideler

What you have then Robert? - Rob Sellen :o)

Demi, the major difference to me is tha FF is more engaging; if you play along. Meaning, don't post something and then not interact with other users. Go back to Twitter if you don't want to make an effort. - Chad Gesser from BuddyFeed

http://bit.ly/8dSsK <<< post that to her on twitter - Rob Sellen :o)

Aww Chad that wasnt nice at all - Jessica Williams

Agreed Jessica...Chad Boo!!!! :) It takes time to get it...give her a chance.. - Bill Heslin

Ya and if she is sitting back watching trying to figure out whens a good time to say something to us all that isnt going to make her want to talk - Jessica Williams

Robert, do you think we can save FF??? - Sam Guzman

Chad - that is wrong - I got that SO many times - you guys never do it to girls - Liza

Welcome! - Stephan Miller

ignore ppl who say go back to Twitter - Liza

Chad.. please don't go down that road.. a few have done it..I have made mistakes here before.. they stick... look at the spammer earlier in this thread.. ;o) CLICK the timestamp under demi's name here and open this thread in its own tab ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

yayy, demi B-) ff is the place for all the action. - Gtp19

liza... lol.. you start using this place, and you won't want to go to twitter so much ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I am tired of ppl saying go back to Twitter - get over yourself or I will say go back to atari - Liza

Later Holden... - Bill Heslin

yep spammers don't last round here - Lynn

Yes, try Streamy..... - Janet Fouts

I'm leaving too. I hope Demi comes back and sees how fun FF can be. Bye everyone! - Sam Guzman

thanks Holden - Lynn

and to do that use the link in the top bar on this page... email is direct too.. ;o) yeah you can post a DM from your email too.. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

what is streamy? - Tina Haight

LIZA.. can I have a go on your atari? :P - Rob Sellen :o)

tina.. http://streamy.com ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

sounds dirty, lol - Tina Haight

Rob - you can,but you have not been an ass to me. - Liza

Tina - dirty is fun. - Liza

Geeks will not tell you go to Twitter if you are dirty. - Liza

http://bit.ly/8dSsK << will as MANY of you tweet that to Demi.... :o) get her over here to see it n action... while you are all busy here - Rob Sellen :o)

lol Liza.. thanks... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

i don't know, rob, my husband and friends make fun of me when i tweet @ celebrities. hhaha - Tina Haight

LOOK at all this thread... how many comments... in less than 45 mins... - Rob Sellen :o)

Everyone makes fun of me, ignore it - Liza

Tina.. we just want to OPEN her eyes.... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Greetings new FriendFeed users. Welcome to the playground. - Robert Kenney

WTH, Demi might as well save friendfeed from closing.. bring back demi. - Gtp19

Hey Demi..I just signed up for FriendFeed the other night. Not sure what to think about it either... hmmm - Melisa

so.. who needs people subbing to them???? ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Robert, I don't either. - Martha

so how do I tweet it to her from here? - Lynn

Its quite funny either way. True or not. - Matt G

go to your home page... post it in the comments.. with your @mrsaplusk too.. click the CC to twitter . post ;o) as long as you have added your twitter username here that is... - Rob Sellen :o)

Beginners can find help here: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... and feel free to ask anyone! - Robert Kenney

I don't know, just gonna feel it out..... - Brenda Erdman Velasquez

done but I had to do it from tweetdeck, I will keep workin on this though - Lynn

Think of it as the place where all of your online stuff goes. You see the stuff, say, that your friends on Twitter are liking on YouTube. You can then talk about it, favorite it, etc. just like you do on Facebook. It's a mashup of all of your Web activity in one place. - Steve Lynch from twhirl

Lynn... you will like it here, you will notice whenever anything gets commented on, or liked, it jumps to the top of the page... - Rob Sellen :o)

The key to FriendFeed is following me. :) - Andrew

She'll never see this but I just have to comment knowing that I interacted with Demi Moore. ;) - Keith - @tsudo

It's amazing that with all of Demi's followers that she doesn't get more people over here. I'm noticing a trend: not many people engage on Tweets. - Robert Scoble

ahh that is why nothing is in the order it was posted in - Lynn

Be sure to add the bookmarklet to your browser. Makes posting to FriendFeed much easier. - Robert Kenney

It's nice to see so many new people joining up; welcome to everyone! I was going to suggest some of you check out the FriendFeed for Beginners group but I see someone else has already done that. Otherwise, the best suggestion I can offer you all is to do a search for some things that interests you and follow the people that posted them. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Subscribe to Holden. - Gus

Robert..I have noticed that on twitter they tend to struggle..... celebs would be in the element on here.. - Rob Sellen :o)

thanks for that Andrew I knew there was a right way to do this haha - Lynn

Well I apologize to those that took offense to my initial comment. That's just my take: show me some substance. Welcome Demi! - Chad Gesser from BuddyFeed

http://bit.ly/8dSsK <<< IF more of you tweeted that to her with @herusername she may take notice... - Rob Sellen :o)

Nice to see her here. Yet in this service, celebrities need to participate on the conversation which is what makes this different than Twitter. - Manuel Mas

It would be deliciously ironic if the buyout that everyone was worried about was the making of FF! - Matt G

Try not to get all caught up in out techno-babble, but a lot of learning here. - professor daddyo

Everyone's new at some point. The more the better. - Robert Kenney

lol.. chad.. the point is.. she probably not come back since posting.. but she will do.. and THEN realise what she missed.. - Rob Sellen :o)

Holden: come now. She has 1.7 million followers. This place should be going absolutely crazy if they were very engaged. - Robert Scoble

Steve: that's what I meant to say! lol - Chad Gesser from BuddyFeed

I like old people. - Michael McKean

oh demi- it would make my night if you said something on here to us. :) - Tina Haight

I agree.. but then, how many actually click her links... not many i bet. - Rob Sellen :o)

hmmm. can't wait here all night, demi! - Tina Haight

Scoble: engage, engage, engage. That to me is the point, which is very attractive about FF. Might I add connection? - Chad Gesser from BuddyFeed

start adding all your other social accounts (if you have any), that's the real kick to friendfeed (at least for me), an all in one feed - Gubatron

welcome chad, we like that much better - Lynn

Well I was hoping she would talk with us. Oh well. - Ben Hanten

Robert Scoble: Most Tweets aren't very... engaging! :) - Steve Lynch from twhirl

anyone watch big brother? - Tina Haight

nope hells kitchen - Lynn

NO.. not that shit bb.. not on here lol - Rob Sellen :o)

oh i love hells kitchen too - Tina Haight

leave big brother on twitter eh... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I saw that Rob :) - Mattb4rd

haha! but it's such a great show. and i am still excited about tonight's show. ;) - Tina Haight

welcome. where is ashton? :P - Oğuz Serdar

we don't need bb crap here .. I get away from tv and twitter to escape it!!! - Rob Sellen :o)

Demi just posted to twitter I tried to tell her we were all waiting for her but... - Lynn

we don't need ashton either ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

getting a little testie arent we - Lynn

Ashton is here http://friendfeed.com/theateam - Matt G

I think they come as a set - Lynn

lol - Lynn

no... I am just sayng.. both in one night would crash the place lol... if they started using it that is... - Rob Sellen :o)

Ashton was on the Dan Patrick Show today and was hilarious. Gained a bunch of new respect for him. - Ben Hanten

They could not crash FF....FF FTW.... - Bill Heslin

haha they do generate a bit of traffic - Lynn

Ashton's FF account is a twitter dump...no engagement...Damn..I got sucked back into this conversation again...lol - Bill Heslin

I didn't like the way he did things at twitter at all... told him as much too.. - Rob Sellen :o)

i'm not gonna lie- i'm a pretty big deal too. - Tina Haight

ok i'm lying. - Tina Haight

ark at you tina... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

;) i DO have 88 followers on twitter. on my way to the million mark - Tina Haight

wow.. :o) doing good... follow that many on here tonight and see what the power of this place is like ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I never had heard of it before but I'm trying now. Is it fairly new? - Barry Winters from iPhone

lol - Lynn

barry.. no... not so new..as much as sold..lol ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

suggestions? Yeah start chatting back while you still just have 175 subscribers :D - BairdWilliamson

Welcome to all the new visitors. Barry, this is about 18 months old, but lots of new features were turned on recently. - Robert Scoble

alright- i am giving up hope on demi coming. have been staring at a computer screen all day and night for work. - Tina Haight

night everyone! - Tina Haight

night nice chatting - Lynn

What?! The Scobelizer is a doubter as well? Tack it on to the list... - iamkhayyam

Yeah, welcome to all... :o) any problems you only have to ask..ask ANYONE lol ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I'm not a doubter anymore! :-) - Robert Scoble

nice meeting you tina.. night. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Haha! There you go... she's Verified :) - iamkhayyam

make a group, add all your favorite sites. - Tyson

What do you mean, Demi, "any suggestions?" What are you looking for? And why aren't you engaging, er, talking with us here? - Robert Scoble

lmao..... good one robert.. shame she missed it happen in real time lol :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

lol - Gtp19

Hi Demi.You're a little late to the party. We are all worried they are going to shut us out of this nice little cozy club called Friendfeed and lead us back to the shark-infested waters of Facebook. We are still makin' hay while the sun shines. :-) - Karma Martell

Well, if she's turned off real-time she might not even be seeing the comments yet, Robert. Or perhaps she made the post and left for dinner (west coast and all) and will check back later. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

...cool! welcome to FF. did you beat Ashton here? - .LAG liked that

this is like a really really private party with only 198 following on friendfeed...Demi leave the party already? - Rex Gradeless

This is just too cool. - Sherrie Belken

http://bit.ly/8dSsK << RT that in reply to her... see if she gets to see it at least ONE bloody time lol... - Rob Sellen :o)

It seems she doesn't care the comments. - Oğuz Serdar

perhaps just not aware they are here ... - Tom Horn

Engaging?! Seriously Scoble? Haha... that's a funny one. One msg on FriendFeed and then she's off for some Kabbalah teachings. - iamkhayyam

probably Demi doesn like to be part of comments, rather she likes to make the headlines, i mean the posts, lol :D - Gtp19

+1 Robert - Robert Kenney

ok gettin mean now gotta go - Lynn

LoL Hi Demi... Welcome to the FF Mob! Now go and spread some hate </extremesarcasm> - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny

Lynn: see ya, sorry about the meanness. But it would be nice to see Demi actually chat for a few minutes so she could get a sense of the power of friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

Demi: I see you're here. And welcome to all the new people on FriendFeed. I'd like to see you (and Ashton) take part in the conversations here. ;) - Dennis Jernberg

aggreed but bein mean isn't gonna make it happen - Lynn

Hahah! ++1000 tehKenny - Bill Heslin

Maybe she is too awestruck at the magnificence of friendfeed to type. I am imagining her sitting there frozen with her mouth hanging open watching all of this going on. - April Russo (app103)

yes, we would love to have Demi here.. long live friendfeed... i mean until its shut down!! - Gtp19

Well, you're about to get a billion responses of course, but you should hook up feeds from other sites you use too, not just Twitter. Maybe a YouTube channel too? Or Flickr? - Ciaoenrico

while wondering why twitter just..sits there lol - Rob Sellen :o)

#love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love #love - iconic88

April: That makes sense - Matt G

Welcome indeed. You should add more of your feeds to your FF account - Vinko

sub to some of the others here in this thread.. you all get to learn this place together then... - Rob Sellen :o)

Maybe she's thinking how on earth she's meant to keep up with the comments, posting from her blackberry/iphone/othermobiledevice :P - 1x29

@April That could be it. FF in Helvetica mode is hypnotic ... - Tom Horn

Thanks for that @iconic88 :) Always a good reminder... #love is all there is :) - iamkhayyam

Welcome to FF! - Jack Wilson, K4SAC

lol @ Tom - Gtp19

Thank you iconic88 - Sherrie Belken

FF in any mode is hypnotic. I haven't been able to pull myself away for many months. - April Russo (app103)

OK, predictions on how many comments this post will top out at? I'm going for 2,000. - 1x29

Hmm .. no , I think we are done. This is probably the last one ... - Tom Horn

Now everyone isl just staring waiting for Demi to comment :p - Gary Gannon

More points if you guess the number of posts before Demi makes a comment :) - 1x29

lol - Sherrie Belken

nah...plenty more will come later when everyone else sees it in best of day. - April Russo (app103)

and if she happens to engage it'll explode - Gary Gannon

yeah, its jus warming up... plenty more to come. - Gtp19

http://bit.ly/8dSsK << could tweet her that link.. its this THREAD .. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Demi this is my first time trying this after you. What is the difference between this and twitter? How did u find this?....Kim Goedde - Kim Goedde

Kim: Look through the thread. There's lots of advice. - Christopher A Carr

Kim, Demi hasn't been back on the thread to respond yet. I can't speak for her, but for me the biggest difference between FF and Twitter is the organization. If you send out a tweet you have to watch for @replies in response to that tweet, and they're kind of easy to miss. On FF when you make a post, all the replies to it are lined up underneath and it's much easier to follow (and take part) in the conversation. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Tina...You are one of the best Ambassadors for FF..Well said - Bill Heslin

That's the whole deal Tina - Sherrie Belken

Well, that's a big part of it Sherrie. The inclusion of media is another big selling point (for me, at least). Here people can include images, files, audio, or video on their posts and I can see/hear it here. On Twitter there's always a clickthrough, an extra tab or window, etc... Perhaps I'm lazy, but I like being able to interact with it all in one spot =) - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Demi-are you getting paid to promote these sites? I have posted comments now and again and have never got 1 response from you......Kim Goedde - Kim Goedde

Yes, I see posts that include the pics from my twitter account. Very cool. - Sherrie Belken

PJ WRONG.. whatever Scoble says is the right thing for HIM to do... and it may work for you, or not.. just use the place and find you own rhythm here. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Kim... why does THAT bother you.... do you think you could repsond to all those 1.7 million odd? THAT is why we are trying to say to her here... you should see this thread.. but she hasn't yet been back it seems... NO-ONE owes you a reply.. we learn that the hard way ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

250+ subscribers and counting. I'm holding off for now, even if all the rest of the geeks are subscribing. Not following her on Twitter. Demi, you'd better give me a good reason to subscribe. *switches to wait & see mode* - Dennis Jernberg

Robert:Same thing here as on Twitter. Only a "handful" of "followers/subscribers" engage. - Dana Fosburgh

My one suggestion to you, since FriendFeed will probably be a high traffic place for you - check out Robert Scoble (scobleizer) and see how he handles high volume. - John E. Bredehoft from fftogo

i like this so far.. - wendy smith

A good suggestion - Sherrie Belken

Learn from the master. ;) - Dennis Jernberg

'Crickets' - Robert Kenney

sheesh... her subs are crap... subbing mainly to people who never use the place??? - Rob Sellen :o)

That was just imported - Sherrie Belken

Yeah. When you join FF, it imports your Twitter follows. That's why I have over 120 subscriptions when I have only 75 subscribers: people on Twitter join, and I subscribe to them automagically. - Dennis Jernberg

was also useless lol ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Hey Demi, welcome to Friend Feed. Hope all is well with you and those you love. Think about adding Robert Scoble to your Friend Feed list. He is the leading expert on all things Friend Feed, and usually is the first to give us heads up when something new is coming down the pike. Take care of you! =) - SashaKane

If you use Firefox, download Yoono --a Firefox add-on that allows you to see Twitter, Facebook, Friendfeed in Firefox, and gives a central place where all can be updated simultaneously. - Danny Groveman

thats what I wanted - Sherrie Belken

Can be overwhelmed by Scobles feed at times..not ideal for a new user.. - Rob Sellen :o)

Hi. Welcome to FriendFeed. - Steven Perez

DYDMoore than steve perez. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Welcome to FriendFeed, Demi! I will definitely be sure to subscribe to you here! - Thomas Ward

comment, like, share! - Sean Oliver

+1 Sean ...that's really FF in a nuthsell! - .LAG liked that

never take it too seriously, always keep a sense of humor with FriendFeed - sofarsoShawn

started using friendfeed recently. i love the imaginary friends feature - Patricio Rocha

*waves Link FF with Tumblr ...I love pictures in my feeds. PEACE! - Rich Weaver

Hi!! :) - Susan Beebe from iPhone

This is post is why FriendFeed had to sell their goods Facebook. I am now convinced. Geek mob rule. - Alex C. Williams

Hello Demi ❤ Glad to see you here! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I honestly only use FF to compile all my sites, almost never for discussions - Allison Warnock

what a strange turn of events considering the situation at hand..a bit late. but better late than never i guess. Welcome to all the new users. - Carlos Ayala

Glad to see you are here Demi, It's a pleasure. - Sherrie Belken

Suggestions... Well, stop being cool about it and write something!.. - Timsah memet

just play around D and you'll figure it out - Thomas Power

She still not been back then?? - Rob Sellen :o)

ok, i'm trying it too. just hope she doesn't try jumping off a bridge or i'm screwed - Laurel howard

I' m new and trying this too. I see your comments from Twitter on this thing too, are they linked?-confused : ( - Rose

Glad to have you both join us, Laurel and Rose =) Rose, Demi is importing her Twitter stream into FriendFeed, that's why you see her Twitter items here. When you comment on one of her Twitter items here, there's a checkbox that will allow you to send that comment to her on Twitter as an @reply. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

its like when kawasaki popped in for a single conversation last month. must be hard to deal whe you get so many replies - Robert Higgins

So many replies that aren't very welcoming don't help matters either. - pea

In reality all we've gained by Demi Moore's brief appearance is a number of celebrity stalkers hoping to cut her off at one more cyber pass and get the one reply they're living their lives for. The best demonstration yet of Scobles 'who you follow, defines you'? - 1x29

demi! we love you. just showed my daughters your 1986 classic movie about last night. they fell in love with you as i did! - JNez

Has Scoble ever had 385 comments here? What's the record? ;O - Rob Schieber

Nope: http://friendfeed.com/mikenay... Open at your peril. - Steven Perez from IM

Yes, Scoble has had 385 comments on FF. His post just this week re: FF geeks got over 1200. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Start by subbing to the peeps who comment on this thread. - Thom Kennon

Scoble has a thread from this week re FF addicts that i think has 1500 comments and counting. - Thom Kennon

yeah @Robert Higgins, Kawasaki kindasorta just disappeared pretty quickly didn't he?... - Thom Kennon

a few said he would tho... no surprise to see them ignoring the threads... daft really, why bother even starting one.... - Rob Sellen :o)

Like, share, follow and be merry. Welcome. - Jim Goldstein from iPhone

FF can be fun, emotional, crazy, and always entertaining. Just speak up when you see something interesting. Like Twitter, but more rounded. And don't mind the doom and gloom chatter that wanders around... some folks just don't handle change well. :D Welcome... - Bette Cooper

I've had lots of threads more than 385. Here's a list: http://friendfeed.com/search... -- this is why the search here rocks. Click on "Advanced Search" and you can find answers to all these kinds of questions. - Robert Scoble

Why can't you like a comment on FF? I hereby like that comment. - Amy℠

we say +1 amy ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

i dont get this - Lin Hill

bye - Lin Hill

bye - Daniel J. Pritchett

Do you have any specific questions, Lin? - Christopher A Carr

i dont know how to do this - Lin Hill

You can sort of think of it as Twitter + a searchable, multimedia chatroom, that aggregates your web activity. You can have FF pull in your Youtube favorites, Amazon wish list, etc... - Christopher A Carr

oh right.. maybe i should try again 2morrow when i havent had a drink, cause i dont get that at all - Lin Hill

Try the friendfeed bookmarklet: http://friendfeed.com/share... - There's a short video tutorial. - Christopher A Carr

ok thanks, i will try that - Lin Hill

Lin, what exactly would you like to do on FriendFeed? Are you just wanting to aggregate your items from around the internet, have conversations with other people, etc? There are lots of different ways to use FriendFeed depending on what you'd like to get out of it =) - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Interesting to see what this thread has become, especially since Demi Moore has not checked back into FriendFeed since posting this. - Justin Korn

ummm not sure what i want, think maybe i should leave quietly by back door - Lin Hill

Lin: How do you use Twitter? - Christopher A Carr

just follow people and comment now and then, thats all - Lin Hill

Lin: I ask, because you are essentially tweeting with multiple people right now, without having to use @... - Christopher A Carr

FF has *really* good search. Look for content that interests you. Comment and like, and people will subscribe to you... - Christopher A Carr

Nah, leaving's not necessary Lin. Especially if you've had a drink: Friday nights on FriendFeed can be fun! If you'd like to see what FriendFeed looks like to be, check http://friendfeed.com/isthiss... That page is what FriendFeed looks like to me because of the people I follow (which is a lot, so you might want to pause it). I use FF to have fun and find good conversations. Other people use it for research, or business, or just to aggregate their material online. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

well, this is the most i`ve been tweeted to since i started, i dont feel invisible anymore! - Lin Hill

Don't just import your Twitter like that ditz, Kim Kardashion. But do import what you feel and read and participate in posts. The key thing is participation on here from teaching something to learning something. -

whos kim k - Lin Hill

Taking a look at your profile, I see that you're only following 12 people and not really commenting/liking all that much. That's probably why you're not getting a lot of interaction. Find some people that are interesting and interact with them on their posts. Once you start having conversations with people on their material, they get interested in what you have to say and are more likely to follow you back. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Imagine if Twitter included video and pictures in Tweets, and provided you with a threaded conversation to discuss your tweets... well, that's what you have here -- and that's just the beginning. - Christopher A Carr

i didnt realise i even had 12, where did you find that out? - Lin Hill

Has Demi checked back with us yet?? It will never be too late. - Amani

Click on your name in the upper right hand corner, Lin. - Christopher A Carr

it sounds good, i will keep at it 'practise makes perfect' and all that - Lin Hill

That's exactly it, Lin =) Let us know if you have any other questions: it can be kind of confusing when you first get going... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

And can you imagine people helping you like this on Twitter? ;-) - Christopher A Carr

Oh, and try out different themes.. - Christopher A Carr

half the people i`m subscribed too i didnt even choose!! whats that about?? - Lin Hill

Never drink and FriendFeed at the same time -

i didnt subscribe to red nose day!! - Lin Hill

Do you follow them on Twitter? - Christopher A Carr

not all of them, just a few - Lin Hill

Did you sign up to FriendFeed with your Twitter credentials, Lin? If so, it will subscribe you to the people you follow on Twitter that are on Friendfeed. It's not a big deal, really: all you do is hover over their name and click 'unsubscribe' if you don't want them. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

ok, thanks everyone, i`ll subscribe to all of you instead - Lin Hill

FriendFeed Rocks ;) No need for anything else! Happy to have you on board! - Nia from fftogo

This one post may beat the longest post by Robert Scoble -

You kidding. The record is well beyond 1,500 comments.... - Roberto Bonini from iPhone

7k if I recall. wait! why am I commenting on this? .p - 'Like' robot (frɐnc)

خانم دمی مور استریپ تیز دو رو کی بازی میکنید ؟؟ - مـــــــــمد

Haha. Funny Franc. Thats what I thought when I wrote my comment ... - Roberto Bonini from iPhone

I doubt she'll participate in this post now - Mac Sharp

Welcome! - Andrea Contino

friendfeed is now part of facebook :) - gareth【ツ】

Welcome, where is Ashton xD? - Francisco Espinoza from BuddyFeed

FriendFeed has gone mainstream :o - Nicholas James

@Nicholas And soon, Friendfeed will go offline! - Ethan

Bret Taylor

FriendFeed has been almost completely blocked in Iran as far as we can tell. We have a large number of very active Iranian users, and we noticed a steep decline in activity yesterday. Graph below.

June 15 - Comment - Like - Share

ILLA, egza, Ozer Wrzl (EN) and 794 other people liked this

:( - Paul Buchheit

205 more comments

:( :( - Rachel Lea Fox

:-( - Kol Tregaskes

Related to the election? - τorƍue

:( - Ross Miller

that's so bad... - Eren Emre Kanal

:-( - Kevin Fox

τorƍue: Yes, as far as we know - Bret Taylor

این نمودار نشاندهنده افت فرندفید به دلیل بسته شدن آن در ایران است - Mycaptain

Bret: Is this based on IP numbers located in Iran, or actual activity from those users? If it's IP based, it'd be interesting to see the activity on a user basis and see if they've been able to route around the blocking. - Ken Sheppardson

:( - Marina Remi

Could it be related to Twitter being blocked (and therefore the twitter traffic import being blocked)? - Stephan Osmont

): - Jim Norris

Some users are definitely going through proxies. This is total # of unique visits from IPs originating in Iran - Bret Taylor

That tells it's own, sad, story. - WorldofHiglet

:((( - Oğuz Serdar

Wow. - Rochelle

If Twitter were blocked and FriendFeed weren't, I'd expect an uptick in FriendFeed activity, not a 92% drop. - Kevin Fox

I.e. given all the users who've previously accessed the site from an Iran IP number, how many have been active from different numbers in the past 2 days. - Ken Sheppardson

Sad. - Jen (SquirrelGirl)

Instead of "liking" this, shouldn't we have an "unlike" button? - Steven Melfi

:( Bret: According to Stephen fry, these are the iran proxies: 218.128.112.18:8080 218.206.94.132:808 218.253.65.99:808 219.50.16.70:8080 . Can you track these IPs? - Roberto Bonini

I knew this day was coming. Too bad. - Robert Scoble

Steven - same feeling here. I always feel weird "liking" bad stories on FF - Mike Bracco

How does traffic from China look? Or North Korea? - τorƍue

:( - Helen Sventitsky

do not like :( - Tamara

@τorƍue Twitter has been restored in China - Stephan Osmont

Hey... we saw issues with blogfa.com as well: http://blog.spinn3r.com/2009... - Kevin A. Burton

like for spread but not like for the situation - Imprenditore

I wonder what the international community can do about stuff like this. Eventually the "bad guys" will lose. - Michiel Sikkes

Hopefully, we'll never see a graph like this for Turkey... - Onur Şentüre

that's because the government has blocked access to friendfeed,twitter,facebook,youtube and ... after election and after protests in Iran cities ! - Farshad

Man... :( That's really a corrupt government. Hope it gets better soon. - Peter

That's horrible. - Barış (beyn.org)

Kheyzaran mentioned over the weekend that both Twitter and FF were blocked for Iran starting I believe on Friday. He is using a proxy when possible to keep us updated - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Bret, any analysis about how many people unable to access FF directly are still able to access it via proxy? - Daniel Dulitz

:-( - bookmeister

:( Let the voices be heard! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

So sad... - Luka

Sigh :( - Havang

can you suggest a way in friendfeed to show the situation in iran to the world ? its very important - Farshad

I doubt any regular North Koreans have computers τorƍue - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Daniel: Well, we are still getting a bunch of Farsi comments and posts. They may be Persians from outside Iran or from Iranians using proxies. We don't have a detailed analysis breaking those down at this point. - Bret Taylor

The stigmata of evil. - Tim Tyler

all cominucation devices are blocked .even phone & cell phones ! - MohammadReza

see this for example : http://abcnews.go.com/Interna... - Farshad

Watching the "guerrilla cyberwarfare" aspect of the elections and reactions has been fascinating. Iran's universities are obviously full of resourceful, passionate geeks. - John Craft

not good in terms of freedom - Sheri Fresonke Harper

this is really bad. i hope there's some resolution to this. the people or iran have shown a lot of strength and courage to protest the illegitimacy of recent events. i don't think this will stop things - Cee Bee

Is it possible that the same folks from Iran that are active on Friendfeed are the ones out protesting? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

please help us , we are under attack ,change friendfeed logo if you can - فرزاد

we need a new way - سِــمیرامیس

@MVB we all are Protests - MohammadReza

That's sad. - EricaJoy

:( Dislike. - Ruchira S. Datta

P.S. Kevin should turn the logo green in support of the Iranian's being disenfranchised. - EricaJoy

:(( - ramin

For those that are in Iran: Have you tried http://fftogo.com as a workaround? - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

make a room for us, invite your friends we will fill it with latest news - Farshad

I'm completely for having a fair vote, but I'm not sure that I'd want to try and align FriendFeed with a particular candidate, which is what a green logo would imply. - Kevin Fox

Many iranians using proxies to access FF. and therefore their IPs changes to fake IP . - آدمیرال

MohammadReza: Maryam's mom is still able to call her relatives and friends in Tehran, so they are keeping some voice traffic open, if not all. - Robert Scoble

Farshad, I'm trying to post news here: http://friendfeed.com/world-n... - Kol Tregaskes

No words for that... - Frank

thanks kol :) - Farshad

@Kevin, totally understandable. - EricaJoy from IM

If Iran thinks they have nothing to fear, then why block Friendfeed? - Frode Stenstrøm

Frode: because the government is like China: they believe that by retarding the flow of information they will reduce the threat of protests and governmental overthrow. - Robert Scoble

Very reminiscent of the prelude to the fall of the Shah - Alan Morris

I don't speak Persian, so I don't know all the searches, but there are still (luckily) a lot of Persian users posting: http://friendfeed.com/search.... If you are Persian and looking for updates, try our search engine to find the few users who still have access. - Bret Taylor

Frode: and in Iran's case, they are run by conservative religious authorities and they don't like the fact that they are not in control of information flow like they used to be. They like to think they can still control information sources and, since they can't, they try to block places where their citizens can go to share information. - Robert Scoble

is it a joke? iranian users seems the %90 of friend feed. it could not be real! - Fırat DEMİREL

Firat: There are no units on the vertical axis of the chart. - Ken Sheppardson

Firat: This is a chart of traffic from Iran, not of FF's total traffic. - Kevin Fox

Firat, i doubt that this graph is a percentage graph... probably more likely that it's measuring hits, sessions, or total data transfered (mb, kb, etc) - Chris Heath

Kevin: what impact did this have on FF's overall traffic? - Robert Scoble

Robert: Iran is the #6 country for FriendFeed in terms of page views per day. - Bret Taylor

something is cooking out there... - mehdi

Thanks all for answers. i told that it could not be real.. :) excuse me, i ve just read Bret's notice and looked at breaking point. i saw what i've missed before.. bad news for ff and iran.. :( - Fırat DEMİREL

These statistics are incredible, especially the normally heavy useage of FF in Iran. - Curt Mercadante

Bret Taylor, we can tag our pix and vids about iran election by an english keyword such as 'iran' or 'iranelection'. I think it will help to ff non-persian users to find out more about unrests in iran. - آدمیرال

Iran restored cell phone service Sunday that had been down in the capital since Saturday. But Iranians still could not send text messages from their mobile phones, and the government increased its Internet filtering in an apparent attempt to undercut opposition voices. Social networking sites including Facebook and Twitter were also not working. - Üstün Üzüm

Do *not* like. :( - Pete Delucchi

:( - Russ Jackson

:( - Mitch

http://www.boston.com/bigpict... - فرزاد

آقا یکی توضیح بده اینکه من(ما) لایک میزنیم! عملا دیسلایک ه ! :( - younes

Younes says that our likes to this graph mean dislike to tehran's regime censorship - آدمیرال

I can't find any evidence of Twitter being blocked in Iran. Anyone? - Martin Bryant

TechCrunch just picked this up: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

Thanks for the translation آدمیرال ! - Ross Miller

ممنونم آدمیرال عزیز - younes

خواهش دوست من. - آدمیرال

martin: those words are not mine actually from a news article from washinton post. - Üstün Üzüm

On twitter people are retweeting the IPs and ports of unblocked proxies, can we do something like that here? - Canageek

martin, i'm from iran. twitter is blocked. what evidence you wanna? screenshot!? - آدمیرال

yes Canageek. we use proxies for tweeting - آدمیرال

Authorities blocking the internet are just reinforcing solidarity between people, can't they understand ? - Stanislas Jourdan

Stanislas: not to mention they encourage their smartest and richest people to leave (the ones who have technical skills). There's a reason why Silicon Valley has 10,000 or more Iranians living here. Their government sucks and the people are getting tired of it. Of course if their government was great I would never have met my wife (who grew up in Tehran). So, there is good to come out of a crappy government! :-) - Robert Scoble

it has always seemed to me that the iranian user base is ENORMOUS here. wow. unbelievable. - edythe

It is interesting how much civil unrest that is brewing across the globe towards their governments. The knee jerk reactions in attempting to block certain websites shows how much they didn't expect the net to become such a widespread conduit for cutting through the bs and informing those that wish to know. I wish those who take a stand all the best. - alphaxion

:( - Roberto

Another way for those that are in Iran is to access through Netvibes (but I don't know if it works or if it's blocked too), adding Friendfeed, Gmail and so on such as modules - Roberto

Thanks for sharing this, Bret. It's valuable evidence of what's going on, evidence which wouldn't have been available even a few years ago. - Michael Nielsen

sad - Pedro Beltrao

Very interesting...so much for democracy and voting rights in Iran... - freedom fighter mom

If anybody in Iran feels up to it, can you temporarily disable your proxy and run a traceroute to friendfeed.com and twitter.com then post the results here? - EricaJoy

Bret and Paul, can you let us know if the traffic comes back, which would tell us they've unblocked FriendFeed? - Robert Scoble

Robert: absolutely, we will let everyone know when it comes back up - Bret Taylor from email

Steven: You Like that it was posted, not the content of the post. - Tanath

Bret, thanks for sharing the info about the dive. Shame, but what could we have expected from the Iranian status quo? - Jon Osterholm

البته یه چیز هم هست اونکه بعد از فیلترینگ همه با آی پی غیر ایرانی می ان فرندفید و برای همنی آمارشون اینجا ثبت نمیشه ... وگرنه فکر نمی کنم از لحاظ تعداد نفراتی که میومدن کم شده باشه ... بلکه هم بیشتر - HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ

Yes, it happend and we have to use proxy to access friendfeed. Look at democracy in Iran... - Zahra (raoros)

The coversations and comments here are educational. - Seek Ground

@بی بی, you might try https://friendfeed.com/ - Jim Norris

:( - imabonehead

Damn. - Steven Perez

http://mojipage.com register in this website and add ff widget! twitter is blocked in iran so I am posting twitts by a script or choqok(http://choqok.gnufolks.org/) - ★amin.m★ from MojiPage

Good luck to all of you trying to get around the censorship. I hope the big sites are doing what they can to help out. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Looking at the potential of this event in the future for numerous causes is mind-boggling. Really amazing. - Charlie Anzman

Come to think of it, does FF have a presence in China? I'd imagine it's blocked there. I've seen Chinese on here, but never sure if that's from China or speakers outside. - anna sauce

Tnx Bret - ----

Thnaks :) - Exir

این چی میگه؟ - hozeh

ببین شب انتخاباتی چکار کردیم با این فرفر. wow! - ali

چه همه لااااااااااااااااایک! - ali

:(( - AJ Batac

Damn. - Derrick

Expected. - Michael W. May

Yes, Friendfeed is blocked in Iran. Right now the papers and TV channels here are ‎controlled by the government and our access to satellite channels is blocked too. ‎Friendfeed and Twitter are quite vital for us now. Our main source of exchanging ‎information and news is Friendfeed. Via Friendfeed we let everyone know that where ‎people need help and where to go and how to help them and... more... - Selma

Selma: does https://friendfeed.com/ work for you? - Bret Taylor

Nope, they have blocked all https addresses, we have had to sign in to Friendfeed via anti-filters for the past few months. - Selma

its a shame. it was one the main media we used to inform ppl. thats why they filtered it. now many users cant sign in - Myri∂m

Can't we "help" in some way? Providing proxies, I don't know, the kind of stuff pirates do. Pirates, and people trying to make a Revolution happen.... - Zackatoustra

It may not be long before Turkey joins the party. - Sarp Tüzün

It's very sad to see this happen - Michael Fidler

tnx all of you... - emin

internet was our last hope ...but it block...and we cant use it easily... - Opium

:( - Caroline

I just spoke with my friend Andres, the main BBC correspondent for the Middle East/Afghanistan, and he mentioned the web is being fire walled in Iran much the same as the the "Great Firewall" during last year's Olympics in China. - sofarsoShawn

The Iranian websites that people used to exchange information about the election protests ‎in Iran are under cyber-attacks by the government forces and from anonymous sources. ‎Many of them are down right now. These Iranian websites were our few last remaining ‎channels to inform people. What can we do about that? Is there anyone out there who can help us with this?‎ - emin

i was 53rd active user in friendfeed until this filtering. now i can open FF with proxies and if i can fine. a Vpn but many Vpn here come from companies that have relations with security services, i thunk they allow us to bypass filternig and then, they will arrest who has wrote against their goals - خیزران Dragon's Father

Can't we transfer the data/databases of the sites you, iranian guys, use to any new domain we could buy? I want to help. Not by throwing rocks to "security service" forces, but, at least, by making possible for what YOU have to say to go public, worldwide. - Zackatoustra

FF is a useful website for Iranian People to get reliable information about demonstration against presidential election. - پارسـا

so so sorry for iran people... I hope they will win... - Tanaydin Sirin

and Now Yahoo messenger and google talk blocked in iran :(((( - پارسـا

Some amazing images from Iran - http://ff.im/42pgD - Brent Smorgen Bleg

http://i.friendfeed.com/376e729... - hozeh

Does http://fftogo.com work still? - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Selma: 1- I don't use a proxy but clearing all but one (deleting them all logs me out) instance of each friendfeed.com cookie name and refreshing the page always solves this for me in Firefox. Has never happened on Lunascape or IE. Good luck. - Alexandros Georgiadis

google block fftogo for iranian users!!! - ★amin.m★

Friendfeedがイランでblockされているというコトらしい。いったいどういう理由でだか分からないけれど……もし、国内のゴタゴタの影響であればいずれtwitterも、ということになりかねないのかも。／でも、fftogoを使えば迂回できるのかな？ - Sakurai.Catshop

What about email, amin.m? Are you able to post to FF by emailing share@friendfeed? - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I don't know about email. now I am using freegate or another site like http://mojipage.com - ★amin.m★

Could http://dev.ctor.org/f2p, http://frienddeck.com or http://peoplebrwsr.com work for friendfeed? - Alexandros Georgiadis

Very sad. - Parth Awasthi

The reason I ask is because if you can email a post, then try sending it to share@friendfeed and also to YourUserName@friendfeed. Then when someone comments you'll receive an email about it and you can comment back to the thread via email as well. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

:(( - Nimaa from MojiPage

No wonder why ! - Pelin

@Alexandros Georgiadis:for frienddeck.com I see this:You are accessing this page from a forbidden country! but dev.ctor.org/f2p worked! thank you :) - ★amin.m★ from MojiPage

+ don't use your ISP's DNS server, verify your Firewall, search for rootkits.. + If you really wanna use Tor, be 'mobile', check the onion's status, don't be too confident, continue to use encrypted protocols & 'mobile' ports. At least, read Tor's docs and articles about Tor & privacy/security.. - Thierry R. Andriamirado

now chat like gmail or yahoo messenger are blocked too - egza

I don't know if these can help but I put them here anyway http://www.noiseriver.com/ http://moopz.com/ - M F

for me,yahoo messenger is not blocked yet! - ★amin.m★ from f2p

Alexandros: Frienddeck could work for certain parts - posts and queries against user accounts are proxied through the App Engine, searches are direct against Friendfeed so they could probably not work. - Paul Kinlan

Thanks :(( - مـهدی معتمد

:( booooooo - Duncan Rawlinson

:o - FKU

DAMN! - Vicey

whoa, NOT good - Susan Beebe

We wish the people of Iran well in these difficult times - Marc

Not good at all. Best wishes to the Iranian FFers. I hope this whole mess gets cleared up quickly and with as little violence as possible - Kamilah Gill

this is terribly wrong - Francisco Costa

A government that takes away people's Friendfeed will not last long. - Goran Zec

WOW CRAZY - Matt Kaufman

I like that 667 people liked this, that's 667 people hoping it all gets resolved justly and peacefully. - Steve C

now we are 676 people who liked that =) hoping too everthing gets resolved peacefully. - Ibrahim Tarlig

Bret, is there any update on this? Is activity still low? - Kol Tregaskes

Yes, we are still being blocked - Bret Taylor

:-( - Kol Tregaskes

:-( - Arif Siddiquee

definitely DON'T LIKE this... >_< ...would love to be able do more than retweeting proxies - Daniele

Best regards from Chile to all iranian people, we know a lot about bad government and human rights. Good luck, strength and courage to all of you. - Roberto Arancibia

:( - Shey, Jamaican of FF

It's to bad there is such attempts to block free flow of information, how long will it be before there is more amazing differences happening? Such limits, hmm. - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa

They have to keep the militants in check. Thank goodness for the pipes that were broken. - tony

بیا بالا ای فید من - egza

Digg.com is block in Iran now. - Sahandram

:-( - Paolo Valzania

:(( - Mitchell Tsai

Interesting censorship- same can happen in America - I would like to talk to you abt Friendfeed and bringing over some large groups do you have time? - JanSimpson

I've seen those censorship about FriendFeed (Iran). Do you know some interesting and objective blogposts about it? - Thierry R. Andriamirado from email

:( - Rachel Lea Fox

Do you have a similar graph as ff's been blocked in China? - K.D.

#GFW - xywf

And China now has a similar blockage. You should also check on it. - Kenyth

Sometimes we forget how easy we have it than other countries. But until people revolt & I mean a HUGE revolution injustices will still go on. - Gabriella Sannino

ای بابا این فید رو شخم زدن :)) - egza

پرلایک ترین فید فرفره این - ramin

jeddi? - HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ from IM

آره حامد آمارشو قبلا در آورده ام - egza

che jaleb , oonvaght por comment dartarin feed kodoome? bebinim mishe feed 2khtare mardom e farzad davan davan ro be oon beresoonim? - HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ from IM

حامد اینجا رو ببین http://friendfeed.com/amirsem... - egza

ba mobile am ... to bebin bara manam tarif kon :D - HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ from IM

بعد از این فید که هستمی این http://friendfeed.com/funny-p... در رده دوم لایکه ,اینجا شش هزار و خورده ای کامنت داره http://friendfeed.com/ideali... این فید از فارسی زبانان فرفر همین نیما خودمون http://friendfeed.com/nimaa... در لایک 204 تا این هم از آیدا http://friendfeed.com/elaheye... بیشتر از 2400 کامنت داره - egza

Adam Helweh

SlickMap CSS — A Visual Sitemapping Tool for Web Developers - http://astuteo.com/slickmap/

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Marco(aureliusmaximus)

It's a girl!!!! 19.5inches, 6lbs 13.8 ounces - name pending!

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Congratulations :) - Bwana ☠

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'Pending' - is that Irish? - Morgan Haley

Congrats! - Tracy Benham

Outstanding. Good weight too! - Louis Gray

Congratulations! - Judith Walden

Congratulations! Omedetou! - Rick Cogley

ty! we had a last minute glitch with the name - a late entrant is proving more formidable than we imagined so we are having to weigh the two finalists against one another hmmm will it be Oprah Talula Nunez or Madonna Cher Nunez...such tough choices - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Congratulations! - Captain Bubbles

Congratulations! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕ from BuddyFeed

Congrats! - Rodfather

Congratulations, indeed! - Steve Lowe

Congratulations!!!! - jamar78

Congrats! - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

Congratulations! - Michael Hocter

Congratulations - F. Batuhan Icoz

Congrats! - MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS

Wonderful! - Mitchell Tsai

nice! congrats! - Nathan Chase

Congratulations! - Trish R

Congratulations man! I'm so happy for you! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Pending is a unique name - Joe Dawson

Congrats! - .LAG liked that

More babbies!!! Congrats!!! :-D - Lisa L. Seifert

congratulations, Marco! woohoo!!! - Bren, Not Grinchy

Congrats, Marco! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Congrats!!! - David Cook

Yay! Thats a good, healthy weight too. - DGentry

congrats! - Thomas Hawk

congrats, macro! - Hao Chen

Congrats! - ronin

Congratulations!! - Justin

Congrats - Amiroo ™

hey congrats! - (jeff)isageek

Congrats!! - Shey, Jamaican of FF

Jesse Stay

The Dirty Little Secret of Apple’s App Store - http://gigaom.com/2009...

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I recently talked with one company who had a similar idea, and I said they should go Google's route with one main app with tabs to each subsection. - Louis Gray

Louis it's the new Twitter spam - do what you can to game the system and get downloads and you're rich. I know a few people doing this as well. - Jesse Stay

Although I got a pretty cool new app for JJ - it's a toy phone that plays animal sounds when you press the numbers. I've got another one as well that says the numbers out loud and "hello" and "byebye". Both just $.99. - Jesse Stay

Louis Gray

The Great American Bubble Machine : Rolling Stone - http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...

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From the article: "From tech stocks to high gas prices, Goldman Sachs has engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depression - and they're about to do it again." - Louis Gray from Bookmarklet

An interesting read. Rolling Stone tends to have quite the slant, of course, but I find some of their longer essays compelling. - Louis Gray

Robert Scoble

John Kao, innovation expert/author, plays the piano and talks 2010 web http://www.building43.com/videos...

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Richard ¿digame? Walker

Adventures of a Reluctant Cult Observer (narrative nonfiction) - Other - Soft Machine³ - http://www.softmachinecubed.com/other...

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"Note: Project currently in speculative development phase. Richard Walker, at age seven, lives a privileged life in a Chinese mansion in Santa Barbara with his mother Sharon and father Nelson. But when Nelson dies suspiciously, Sharon marries David, a younger man, and they move to Banana Road and are ensnared in a cult. Four years later, brainwashed, abused and poor, they escape Los Angeles in the middle of the night, in secret, and never look back." ... sfmike of the Civic Center blog, posted yesterday: http://sfciviccenter.blogspot.com/2009... “…and the comparatively downscale, Saint Germain Foundation nearby which had the scariest logo of all.” ... - Richard ¿digame? Walker from Bookmarklet

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Saint Germain answers a Breatharian on Hardcore Zen, as recently as 2008 http://hardcorezen.blogspot.com/2008... - Richard ¿digame? Walker

An Anonymous Scientologist said… [elided] … and Neural_Cognition replied… Good Gawd! … 75,000,000 years. One’s body is… thetans stuck to oneself or to the body. One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. They respond like any preclear. Thetans believe they are Sea Org. This is the primary error. You can... more... - Richard ¿digame? Walker

[MS1022]. Bryan, Gerald Barbee 1893. Psychic Dictatorship in America. Los Angeles, CA: Truth Research Publications, 1940. 255 pages. An expose of the I AM movement… At the core of the book is “Chapter 14: Documentary Evidence of Plagerism.” This chapter quite convincingly demonstrates that much of the writing of the movement’s founder, Guy Ballard, is taken form the writings of others,... more... - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Thanks to the people who encouraged me on this project! You'll get a signed free copy, blessed by some Higher Channeled Being or other. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Anna, eek! I want to let specific people know this has evolved to the next step... and if I don't have everyone handy at time of post, it's too late. That list is CW™, Steven Perez, Mona Nomura, Kol Tregaskes, Rob Sellen :o), FFing Enigma (aka Tina), Jen (SquirrelGirl), Cee Bee, Kelly W., felicious, Katie For Miss USA, Tyson Key, Derrick, RAPatton, edythe, asiriusgeek, Nir Ben Yona, z.o.s The Cylon, ·[▪_▪]·, Håkan Dahlström and vijay. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Thanks everyone.... and either I've lost whatever FF juice I had, or real-time has screwed me over, or people are watching too much TV. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

To be honest, this is kinda over my head - Shey, Jamaican of FF

Richard, some of us were just busy. It looks like you're doing a good job trying to sort through all the details on this: I'm sure it's a massive undertaking. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Hey there Tina! good to see you. Yesterday was fun... I hadn't realized sfmike was from Santa Barbara, and his post pushed the book pitch to a new phase... Fun! - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Really wonderful that you're doing this. Very interesting. Worthwhile project. Took me a while to remember your story. - Jen (SquirrelGirl)

Thanks Jen! This is just background research that backs up the insane story I have to tell. sfmike knows the author of People Farm, which bears some resemblance to what the adults were up to.. .warning, content NSFW. http://www.peoplefarm.com/ - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Theosophist ripoff meets therapy cult and produces evil baby, is one way to put it. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

People have No. Effing. Idea. What? That ppl from "I Am" turned N.'s funeral into a "Hawaiian Luau Festival" and wore bright yellow. N.'s family was from the east coast... S. & friends appeared to be happy to be rid of N., but keeping his money. I'm sure N.'s family has never forgotten or forgiven the transformation of tragic death into vicious farce... hahaha he's dead. Yay let's party. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

There is an "I Am" center down the street from me. I always wondered what the heck it was. - Rochelle

Ken Morley

Memristor minds: The future of artificial intelligence - http://www.newscientist.com/article...

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"Four interconnected things, mathematics says, can be related in six ways. Charge and current, and magnetic flux and voltage, are connected through their definitions. That's two. Three more associations correspond to the three traditional circuit elements. A resistor is any device that, when you pass current through it, creates a voltage. For a given voltage a capacitor will store a certain amount of charge. Pass a current through an inductor, and you create a magnetic flux. That makes five. Something missing?" - Ken Morley from Bookmarklet

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"Chua set about exploring what this device would do. It was something that no combination of resistors, capacitors and inductors would do. Because moving charges make currents, and changing magnetic fluxes breed voltages, the new device would generate a voltage from a current rather like a resistor, but in a complex, dynamic way. In fact, Chua calculated, it would behave like a resistor that could "remember" what current had flowed through it before." - Ken Morley

Let me be the first to welcome our mechanical overlords. - Lo is a Quitter

What's shocking to me is how little press memristors get, when they're not exactly new, and I find them incredibly exciting. When you think about how fundamentally inefficient our current methods of implementing memory are, you can realize how, with just a bit of technological advancement, computers could be leaps and bounds more effective just by utilizing this new electrical element. I mean, I know they're still not ready to be used in any practical way, but this is cool stuff! - Brad Greer

Brad, it's cool until we make mechanical minds even approaching the complexity & power of human minds... they'd be a lot faster (speed of neuro transmissions = much slower than electricity), and somehow I don't think humanity would fare well in a strictly logical judgment. It's funny how many "mechanical overlord" stories there are in fiction, because it's turning out to be actually... more... - Lo is a Quitter

I love the serendipity: "The resistance in different switches behaved in a way that was impossible to predict using any conventional model. Williams was stumped. It took three years and a chance tip-off from a colleague about Chua's work before the revelation came. "I realised suddenly that the equations I was writing down to describe our device were very similar to Chua's,Then everything fell into place." - Ken Morley

Lo, I believe the first time I heard of them was alumni weekend a couple years ago, so you may have been part of that very conversation. As for mechanical minds being scary, I imagine my ridiculous Vulcan brain makes me an apt choice for "robot sympathizer" so I don't really worry about it. If they can do what we can do more efficiently and/or with less misery inflicted, I say more [DC] power to them. As one person appropriately put it: "The technological singularity is like the Rapture for computer nerds" - Brad Greer

Maybe Google can use this to build SkyNet Chrome OS, or HAL Chrome OS 9000 ;) - Bogdan Costea

Well, Brad, if you can be cavalier about the potential violent destruction of mankind, so can I. People are cool, but no cooler than anything else. Tangent: I'm so curious about your Vulcan mind and what's happened to you since college, but I don't know a non-awkward way to bring it up. So why not here?! Or maybe I'll e-mail or something... - Lo is a Quitter

Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum

This is why we use commas, kids....via @biorhythmist

July 7 - Comment - Like - Share

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LMAO - jamar78

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LMAO - Yolanda

Oh god...damn! - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

if he hadn't used all caps it might have worked without the comma like: fuckin A dude - Chris Heath

or: fuckin-A dude might have passed as well - Chris Heath

naa, still awful... :P - Zee.

lol... then again dude can be any gender nowadays - AJ Batac

Maybe he really was. - ronin

That's priceless. - Joey Gibson

hahahahah - Bora Mesut PALAS

I don't see what the problem is. - Derrick

Ell. Emm. Aye. Oh. - Richard ¿digame? Walker

DERRICK!!!!! :-) - Lisa L. Seifert

So I guess one should get condoms with commas? - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Well, Derrick, it's not something I would want misunderstood. I would TOTALLY want that comma. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

priceless. - Laura Norvig

totally funny. i've been the victim of too many commas as well as not enough. And by the way, how are the commas used when fucking a dude? insertion technique? mentos/fellatio style? woven together to form a cock ring type device? - Morgan Haley

This made me remember a conversation I had with a friend after I very properly left out the comma, and his strange brain inserted one. http://friendfeed.com/minimag... - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Daniel J. Pritchett

How did a leading chip manufacturer drive Wiki adoption? | Pretzel Logic - Enterprise 2.0 - http://www.pretzellogic.org/2009...

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"Simple: Delete all emails and attachments from the server after 45 days. Everyone flocked to the wiki for fear of loosing access to valuable discussions and attachments in the future. That’s what a friend who works there told me over 4th of July BBQ. Sounds a bit brute force-ish no? It does but its an easy way to get a lot of people to really immerse themselves in a better approach to collaboration. And should an anarchy ensue for some reason, it’s a policy that’s easily reversible." - Daniel J. Pritchett from Bookmarklet

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