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Hello Gillmor Gang lovers from near and far....welcome!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hello! :D
- Stephen Pickering
Hello there
- Kevin Marks
Hello & yep, we're lovers, not fighters.
- Jerome Hughes
Hi, Gangers.
- Tom Guarriello
Hi folks. Now is the time on Sprockets when we procrastinate ...
- Laura Norvig
Thunderbirds are go!
- Laura Norvig
Ganger Unite!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Seems like a lot of Hardware-Kickstarter-Projects were there.
- Johannes Siemers
Ganger Style
- christina sponselli
ooops, Gangers Unite!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, Ganger Style. Let's dance
- Tina Chase Gillmor
atleast some of them realize thier software is awful and are just adopting things like roku to use as the app platform; http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34...
- Matthew Voshell
feel free to tweet the show ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
CES tag clouds http://ces13analytics.herokuapp.com/dev...
- Kevin Marks
Steve has always functioned as kind of the Internet's Obituary column: "Office, Windows, The Web is dead!" I've always waited for those moments on the Gang!
- Tom Guarriello
a communist piece?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
nest
- Matthew Voshell
Tom G. LOL. Yes, we maintain the tombstones around here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cue Doc on the identity conversation.
- Tom Guarriello
i just bought one today! i can't wait
- Matthew Voshell
I'll bet you guys have quite a tidy Tim Burtonesque collection by now!
- Tom Guarriello
Also health devices
- christina sponselli
yea it would be nice if fitbit would gather information from my lark about my sleep and design the right workout accordingly
- Matthew Voshell
Invisible Fence for Kids FTW
- Tom Guarriello
matthew, definitely early on. using striiv and it has glitches, too.
- christina sponselli
The Virtual-Reality-Headset Oculus Rift seems really cool, too.
- Johannes Siemers
second that on oculus rift
- Matthew Voshell
Is that a raven in the background???
- Tom Guarriello
does API just become further integrated and leave it to the developer or does apple/google develop a framework to facilitate sharing b/t apps?
- Matthew Voshell
"open" still seems important for disenfranchised populations. If I don't have a smart phone, right now I can still go to the library and watch youtube videos on the web.
- Laura Norvig
Cue Scoble's context discussion
- Tom Guarriello
blah blah yelling yelling context qualcomm blah blah context blah noise control
- Matthew Voshell
You got it, Matthew
- Tom Guarriello
devices have to be even more affordable to close the digital divide
- Da
The Sensor Cloud will play a major role in the 'Internet of Things'
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Android as a life management platform by Doc Searls http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc...
- Da
beta vs vhs, hddvd vs blu ray, apps vs html5,
- Matthew Voshell
what reality? the one where companies want to get revenue or the one where users want good stuff?
- Laura Norvig
html5 works, but it can't utilize the sensors apps can; they work, but not with the same heightening functionality; USPS works and is cheap but UPS gets it there with tracking and signage;
- Matthew Voshell
the Gillmor Gang is the most _____________. ( fill in the blank)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
FYI when people look up and to the left they are referencing their memory (like John B does often) up and to the right - imagination
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ooh, NLP
- Laura Norvig
No Ubuntu Mobile chat?? Looks promising.. and last i checked they are pretty open right?
- Matthew Voshell
the reality is I want one device when I'm out and about, and the iPhone has too small of a screen for me, it pains me to get around the iPhone screen with my stubby fingers, painful for my eyes to look at the tiny iPhone screen. The iPhone wasn't even in my short list in my phone shopping list. And now, the Galaxy Note 2 may even work better for me than my Galaxy Nexus.
- Da
sort of NLP. remember this from my undergrad studies a million years ago
- Tina Chase Gillmor
chat room ... please provide answers. you know what you're talking about
- Tina Chase Gillmor
apple does that with itunes web links and auto opens in the app store, then you can double click the home button, and fast switch back to whichever app you want... is it lazy to ask the developer to give me a back button?
- Matthew Voshell
google has integrated drive much in that same way by pulling drive files directly into a google+ post or a new gmail message
- Matthew Voshell
Is what Facebook will announce on Tuesday going to be open or closed
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
how long did it take them to allow us to choose what search engine we want to use in built-in safari search?
- Matthew Voshell
before that blackberry owned the market and they had WAP browser...
- Matthew Voshell
Dear Steve just ask Siri that you like to go by "transit" and it will give you the opportunity to use Google Maps.
- DC Menzel
The Desktop is dead, cause the Internet took over
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
90 million PC's the last quarter is still alot of PC's
- Da
Bye
- Tom Guarriello
Thanks!
- christina sponselli
thanks to everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Getting ready
- Keith Teare
about 5 minutes til blast off1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm here, it's 1 p.m.
- Robert Scoble
I'm here - have to depart abruptly at 2:00.
- John Taschek
Oh, shoot, missed the call. Call back.
- Robert Scoble
We are having technical troubles, just hang out...
- Robert Scoble
Is this the primary chat area for Gillmor Gang listeners?
- Matt Terenzio
Yeah! Show starting in a few seconds.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, isn't it awesome?
- Stephen Pickering
need that 'don't bother me setting'
- Kevin Marks
I almost think you don't need to monetize mobile. Mobile seems to be the content creator, and then I''d rather consume it on the big screen.
- Stephen Pickering
Matt Lauer
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook is a chair -- talk about that nonsense.
- Brian Sullivan
He's right because it only measures how many people are still actually looking
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook is a chair? are they trying to get Clint Eastwood to join?
- Kevin Marks
Don't need to monetize mobile because those 600 million are creating free content for FB
- Stephen Pickering
Hello friends.
- Darren
Olá
- Stephen Pickering
The geek users are there.
- Stephen Pickering
hello everyone!! Big weekend ahead here in the bay area
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google+ crowd seems to be more tech-centric audience.
- christina sponselli
I love how G+ automatically uploads my photos. That's a great hook.
- Stephen Pickering
limiting Likes may limit the ability of FB to know its users
- Da
Uh oh. Attention was mentioned. Next it'll be Gestures. ; )
- Matt Terenzio
Robert maintains some great lists and I thank him very much for doing it. I just wish that I can tune the list for my own needs like I can clone in G+
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Don't forget the "Game of Games". :)
- Darren
Dang, Zynga is selling for the amount of cash they have
- Stephen Pickering
Words with Friends
- Da
Calacanis seems to think Zynga will make it with online gambling. Do you buy that?
- Stephen Pickering
Is Scoble still in Second Life?
- Matt Terenzio
They had Casinos.
- Matt Terenzio
Noticed that "dice with buddies" is the latest trend with many.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Matt: no.
- Robert Scoble
Do you think online gambling will become legal in the US anytime soon?
- Stephen Pickering
Gambling is all about controlling taxes on it, so maybe if they block sites from outside U.S. or tariff them somehow
- Matt Terenzio
steam! coming to linux as a hedge against windows
- john
unlikely Stephen
- Kevin Marks
Today back in 1962, the first James Bond Movie, Dr No was released. Plus the Beatles released their first single, 'Love Me Do'. Both James Bond and The Beatles became Britain's biggest Cultural Icons of the 60's.
- Moe Glitz
http://indiegamethemovie.com is worth watching
- Kevin Marks
I loved games before I started web devlopment, then that became my game, or consumed any game time I ever have.
- Matt Terenzio
I wanted to see that
- Stephen Pickering
sacca : fB is for friends you used to know, twitter is friends you want to know
- john
$10 for a 1080p download, Stephen
- Kevin Marks
that wasn't sacca originally
- Kevin Marks
john: sacca used to be right. He isn't any more.
- Robert Scoble
Ha! Kevin
- Stephen Pickering
M&A
- Darren
Twitter is currently worth between $6-10 Billion?
- Moe Glitz
Apparently
- Stephen Pickering
But in QE Infinity dollars what's a billion here or there?
- Stephen Pickering
Pinterest about the same. Still don't know why?
- Moe Glitz
Just don't take away my TweetBot!
- Stephen Pickering
Twitter is the modern Yahoo? That doesn't bode well.
- Brian Sullivan
Twitter wants to be the CNN of Social Microblogging
- Moe Glitz
twitter has become CNN + Enquirer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter is CNN-- that also doesn't bode well for them.
- Brian Sullivan
Very true Tina
- Moe Glitz
It's just the modern version of news, where the audience is also the producers
- Matt Terenzio
fB is still way slower on mobile than tw (both native app + stream)
- john
Mobile is the advert for the service as a whole
- Stephen Pickering
Scoble blow!
- Evan Prodromou
he's going of the rails!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is that what Steve was saying?
- Matt Terenzio
It's mostly a Twitter design issue more than the 500 List limit.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
So what should they do?
- Stephen Pickering
Some things need huge scale but not all things. Some services do fine with smaller numbers, and by fine I mean add more value to their users by virtue of the fact that they aren't mainstream huge.
- Matt Terenzio
Agree with Kevin. The TV 'n' tweet combo is interactive, not just sit back and watch entertainment.
- Amyloo
i get the most intelligent developer links from twitter
- john
having to patch apps for retina is such a cock-up
- Kevin Marks
Apple should have developed a better way to show legacy apps on retina. Depending of the developers to support it was a big mistake. They should have do it in the OS.
- Murray Macdonald
had to look up cock-up : )
- Matt Terenzio
Keith has the biggest one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm clearly compensating
- Keith Teare
making the type look right in retina should have been job one.
- Kevin Marks
Hahahaha
- Stephen Pickering
big blocks or little blocks
- john
what do you mean you can't make a list on twitter ...?
- Laura Norvig
@scobleizer - he's right Twitter is about entertainment -- see the top most popular: http://twitaholic.com/
- John Taschek
Facebook ads are dorky.
- Brian Sullivan
Laura you can't make this list on Twitter: https://www.facebook.com/lists...
- Robert Scoble
Both are bad Door to Door Salesmen
- Moe Glitz
Why? Twitter is limited to 500 startups. This list has 1,400.
- Robert Scoble
Rope a dope?
- Brian Sullivan
Both are full of noise.
- Murray Macdonald
RSS still the best news feed....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Do people only want news
- Murray Macdonald
And news publications, like NY Times, are pushing notifications directly on phones
- christina sponselli
Where do people get their news? - http://www.poynter.org/latest-...
- John Taschek
Steve, your voice a little distored
- Murray Macdonald
Scoble is right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Why do I want my news on a small screen?
- Murray Macdonald
no Scoble is right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Isn't it a matter of taste? Scoble likes the pictures. I like that you can scan more messages on a single Twitter screen, and get a better, broader sense of what's going on right now.
- Amyloo
joke
- Laura Norvig
And iPhone has Google Maps... Oh right...
- Murray Macdonald
I think I'm mixed on pictures in news feeds. They have value but should be sized smaller unless I click on that post for more. Would be best of both worlds.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
!!
- Amyloo
fB - 20
- john
text only = cognitive overload
- Laura Norvig
I know Steve' mic is being weird and not sure why. Will troubleshoot after show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
So pinterest is the #1 feed?
- Murray Macdonald
Take that!
- Hilary Talbot
He's blowing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
FB v Twitter discussion feels like a management meeting where people talk about a website design review. Everyone has an opinion. Put it out for user testing.
- christina sponselli
OK, now you're getting derailed, Robert. You were on a roll there for a minute. Popular doesn't mean quality, obviously.
- Laura Norvig
Wow, it wasn't me this time for the feed rant! ;-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
but but I hate picnics!
- Amyloo
Let's just get our news from Flickr then! Do away with all text!
- Matt Terenzio
Robert's smile is telling
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Why are all the developers so prone to use twitter, not fb?
- Murray Macdonald
Twitterest
- Moe Glitz
I want options in the mobile apps to chose pics vs text only. How hard is that....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Now we all know your password...
- Murray Macdonald
Yes Twitter needs to innovate
- Tina Chase Gillmor
bingo
- Laura Norvig
Murray: you can have my iPhone after you uncurl my cold dead fingers off of it. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
well, why not have the user be able to choose their options, which is what the API was for, innovation from other places
- Matt Terenzio
+1 matt
- Amyloo
Robert: It will be obsolete by then... And a little too sweaty.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm on Google Reader more than Facebook, Twitter, G+. Much faster to go thru text than pictures
- Da
Robert: I thought flipbook was your news client...
- Murray Macdonald
Do you think someone may fund app.net so that it could go free?
- Stephen Pickering
Me too Da.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't want a single automated feed filter. I want to control my filters, not have it automagically done for me. The winner will be the one with the greatest filter control.
- Murray Macdonald
Well, Robert isn't a typical user. I only follow 700 people on twitter and that is intentional, not because I can't find more. Not sure what typical number of followers is though
- Matt Terenzio
Big Turkeys
- Moe Glitz
Average Twitter user follows 170 accounts
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Where is the client/platform that lets me control my filters? FB tries to do it automatically, but isolates me from things. Twitter to too much.
- Murray Macdonald
Stephen, wouldn't that defeat the purpose? Then they would need another business model and there would be a conflict of interest again.
- Matt Terenzio
We put out a Romney-Obama social survey here: http://www.radian6.com/blog...
- John Taschek
kpbs is nothing better for a disaster event in your area, nothing had more info on the radio during the SD fires
- john
and clear channel was on auto pilot with no info on most of the fm dial
- john
Robert: is flickr your main news feed? why not?
- Murray Macdonald
Matt, point taken, but from what I'm hearing they need more innovation, so I figure App.net could do it better, even though, you're right, they'd still have to find a monetization model
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook and Twitter feeds into my Google Reader. Sucks I can't do that for G+
- Da
Pictures are not everything. Twitter has photos too. Twitter clients could show more photos...
- Murray Macdonald
Stephen, yes, it would eliminate the innovation part of the problem
- Matt Terenzio
The media talks about Twitter because it is like them -- they understand it. They talk and everybody listens.
- Brian Sullivan
What Jack said was right. The number is down only because the labor force has shrunk.
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook basically *forces* users to post graphics if they want to get any attention. There's a feedback loop where posts with graphics get more likes and comments, therefore they get higher in the newsfeed and therefore FB tweaks the algorithm to bump stuff w/graphics, and then organizations that follow FB trends feel compelled to post graphics or videos.
- Laura Norvig
Same with G+ Laura.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Everyone is using voicemail, but I wrote it off years ago...
- Murray Macdonald
I'm so totally addicted to FB. I wish Robert would do a tutorial on how to use it more effectively though.
- Stephen Pickering
Eventually that supports the growth of idiocracy, as people aren't forced to practice reading
- Laura Norvig
LinkedIn is the yellow pages for business...for better and worse.
- christina sponselli
I agree with Steve - Facebook is an irritation -- if my daughter didn't post pictures and movies of my new granddaughter there I wouldn't go there.
- Brian Sullivan
tune your feed!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Linked-in is match.com for the chronically underemployed.
- Murray Macdonald
Then on Twitter there is: #FF @a @b @c @z garbage
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Why doesn't twitter just launch a better UI? Seems like low hanging fruit.
- Murray Macdonald
You can't do it all in one UI. The beauty of third party twitter stuff was different stuff for diff use cases.
- Laura Norvig
in the end fB has 50b's .. tw has 6b and they're competing
- john
Brian - Steve is wrong
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I post Dead Videos and Yankee game photos to FB. My followers there aren't interested in Python or the News industry. They are on Twitter.
- Matt Terenzio
I don't agree that mobile is a challenge. It's an advantage. It's the content creator.
- Stephen Pickering
I want to send all these feeds into a single client that gives me powerful filtering options that I can control.
- Murray Macdonald
Tina -- That is what my daughter says as well -- but I don't buy it.
- Brian Sullivan
I want to create a handful of different feeds, from my raw feeds. One for friends, one for geeks, one for politics, etc...
- Murray Macdonald
He's so right about the Meta stuff
- Stephen Pickering
I see the same stuff that Robert sees on FB on G+.
- Brian Sullivan
The normal person doesn't subscribe to "lists".
- Brian Sullivan
Why doesn't Twitter put ads on their site?
- Stephen Pickering
I mean on the right or left side of the page
- Stephen Pickering
I want to make my own lists from different sources/feeds then direct them to different clients.
- Murray Macdonald
Flipscam
- Stephen Pickering
But YOUR lists are not exactly for the subscribers, it's a jump start but it takes time to steal the ones in the list for a personal list. It's a good start but G+ does a better job to clone a circle then modify to your needs.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
RAX = 9 billion dollar market cap, and my dumb ass didn't buy any shares 3 years ago
- Stephen Pickering
I agree with laura
- Kevin Marks
Robert, I've been looking for some subject matter to test one online course on 8 to 10 different platforms. Would you be interested in providing an instructional video on how to tune your FB feed?
- Amyloo
I want my FB, Twitter, and linkedin feeds, boil them down, and view them (separately) as different lists.
- Murray Macdonald
Mark: you're wrong. Google+ is an abortion. I can't do anything like what I just did on Google+ to get you started.
- Robert Scoble
Amy: might be fun, but the next month is hell on my calendar.
- Robert Scoble
That Chris Sacca interview was mind-blowing
- Evan Prodromou
Thanks again guys.
- Murray Macdonald
I agree and disagree Robert. My point was I can clone your list and then filter for me. That is a huge hole in the FB list features.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I haven't quite worked it out yet, so much later would be better for me. I'll let you know if I make progress on it.
- Amyloo
Thanks to everyone. This conversation is always so smart
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Potential Topics? Amazon tablets. Motorola phones. Nokia phones. Apple next week. Techcrunch Disrupt next week. I'm also now addicted to Breaking Bad. Since last week's show I've watched three seasons of it.
- Robert Scoble
Good Lord that's a lot of Breaking Bad in a short amount of time. Please lay off the blue crystals
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Breaking Bad is awesome
- Christopher Harris
I stopped watching Breaking Bad. Got to depressing for my taste.
- Johannes Siemers
On netflix, it just keeps on comping episode after episode...
- Kevin Marks
Breaking Bad is very depressing, but I got addicted. Robert, I watched all four previous seasons this summer.
- Francine Hardaway
did somebody say "blue crystals"? ;)
- Susan Beebe
Clinton knocked it out o the park.
- Francine Hardaway
My feed froze
- Francine Hardaway
and then thawed
- Jerome Hughes
Crystal Blue Persuasion...
- Jerry Schuman
:)
- Susan Beebe
can't find where I left the Kindle Fire...
- Kevin Marks
everyone's stream ok?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Of course, All The New Kindle Fires Will Have Ads That You Can't Get Rid Of. Didn't really want to talk much about that, did they?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
oh my God Danny is not stopping for air
- Tina Chase Gillmor
one of the first attack vectors for the hackers... multiple user accounts.
- Jerry Schuman
can I run Google Music on the new kindles?
- Kevin Marks
HDMI out... how fun.
- Jerry Schuman
Tina, Danny must have had some awesome espresso today! :)
- Susan Beebe
Danny is on fire today :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Breaking Bad fans. Do you listen to the BB Insider Podcast?
- Tom Guarriello
Danny is on fireHD today
- Jerry Schuman
Kevin: Rooted yes.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
its the new blow
- Tina Chase Gillmor
A book on Revolver? Gotta get that title.
- Tom Guarriello
Bring on the Punditry! :D
- Susan Beebe
Pundintry? Pedantry?
- Kevin Marks
Amazon bang?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ha! Kevin!
- Susan Beebe
Yes, Jerry, something about thinking alike :)
- Charlie Isaacs
weird snatches of sound coming through
- Kevin Marks
skype is so lame sometimes haha
- Susan Beebe
LOL. Someone is chewing a robot or something.
- Nir Ben Yona
you're making him very angry
- Jerome Hughes
danny is frozen! lol
- Susan Beebe
auto tune
- Charlie Isaacs
Back!
- Evan Prodromou
hi Evan
- Kevin Marks
Crappy internet connections in Newport Beach.
- Jerry Schuman
Danny fried his own feed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Danny exceeded his bandwidth with his long monologue so now his service provider is throttling every 50th byte
- Charlie Isaacs
Don't Google and Amazon threaten both Microsoft and Apple, because they can give both Software and Hardware away, at least eventually?
- Stephen Pickering
Hi Kevin!
- Evan Prodromou
I like 'pundit tree"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
they made the browser free
- Kevin Marks
and IIS
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is throwing back champagne today. Real lush that guy is
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It was iced water, but it melted
- Kevin Marks
They made the browser free to kill Netscape, but now Google and the Cloud can give the software away and kill MSFT
- Stephen Pickering
You mean Wordstar
- Charlie Isaacs
This is like a visit to the museum.
- Evan Prodromou
My wife, to this day, calls MS Word "Wordstar" :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Robert - to make GG live @ http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/ - I will call u after GG today.
- clive boulton
Hell my LaserWriter cost me a few grand.
- Jerry Schuman
WordPerfect!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm using the Ringo glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Assume MSFT pulls off the Kobayashi Maru -- where does this leave Intel -- failed low power processor family?
- clive boulton
Microsoft could charge "mob rate" pricing for four reasons: (1) It was a software suite; (2) They were usually bundled with computers so they offered a "solution" or "system"; (3) The software "spoke" to one another; and (4) There was some stability so businesses trusted it.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Convertibles
- Jerry Schuman
I think Bezos had it right. People care about services not just gadgets.
- Alex de Soto
I love the Amazon apps store. I gave my wife a Kindle Fire and she hated it. She wanted the iPad apps. I told her to "find them on Amazon" but 90% of the stuff she wanted did not work on the Kindle Fire.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
well, he's selling services, of course he says that. Apple will say they like devices
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Is this more about "PC's dying" or "PC sales saturating and tablet purchases increasing"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
So far, Apple has better "services" in the form of their apps and their licensed content.
- Alex de Soto
not so much the books, Alex
- Kevin Marks
Same "mob rate" rational pricing for pizza boxes and garbage collection in NY/NJ - no choice monopoly
- clive boulton
I travel with my iPad + Logitech Ultrathin keyboard -- holds power for > 8 hr. flight, fits on Coach tray table while the guy in front me drops his seat
- Charlie Isaacs
Right you are Kevin about the books. I mostly read them on a Kindle and will be getting the Paperwhite.
- Alex de Soto
Is malware a problem for Amazon apps?
- christina sponselli
I want to get the Kindle Fire HD to play the movies from the Amazon Prime movies via their HD output to my HD TV (but them again, my Roku does that already, but not when Im waiting at my doctors office, etc) @SocialJulio
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Hello everyone. so glad you all showed up today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina :)
- Hilary Talbot
Can Microsoft make money with a no-cost tablet operating system? Apple can, and Google can. Amazon can. I think they're selling something everyone's getting for free.
- Evan Prodromou
Hi Tina. Hope you are still enjoying your roses.
- christina sponselli
your doctor lets you plug your tablet into his tv?
- Kevin Marks
Navy Seals aren't using spreadsheets, composing large Word files, long e-mails (= Office). They are looking at pictures, maps, terrains, videos (= Tablet).
- Chien-Yu Lin
"Don't stand out in Kandahar" (Robert said that?)
- clive boulton
My wife is the Creative Director for the Western US of the top app developer. Trust me... nobody is asking for Microsoft or Fire
- Jerry Schuman
I am loving the beautiful roses. All 21!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Navy Seals are writing books about Osama Bin Laden's last day on their iPads
- Charlie Isaacs
Hi Tina. Guess what? I'm a vegan now
- Francine Hardaway
The Samsung Galaxy SIII was developed before Jelly Bean. Will be out soon.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
After Gazelle, iPhone5 should end up costing me about $50. A little irrational, but not too much.
- Tom Guarriello
@Kevin, my dr has wifi and I will have stuff to watch while I wait on my Kindle Fire HD. Better than on my phone, etc
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
clive: yeah. Navy Seals told me that when you are overseas there are a TON of Apple devices in local coffee shops.
- Robert Scoble
I have a Samsung Galaxy S III and I love it!
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
(Resigned sigh) Can't I wait until Apple announces on Wednesday before ordering my Kindle Fire? Or will I then lose my Early Adopter button?
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, your wife is a freaking dynamo. I want to be her when I grow up. Any cool new art pieces?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Clive @Scoble: One book written is not a trend. American in Middle East stands out already. Tablet does not make them camo'ed.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Steve, what would it need to have?
- Francine Hardaway
@@ bet the Taliban still runs Windows (XP)
- clive boulton
What will Steve do if Apple ships a Mini Pad?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
+1 Chien-Yu-Lin
- Francine Hardaway
My take-away from this: Steve has a big pocket
- Charlie Isaacs
She's been swamped with apps.. not a chance she's been in the studio. Though she's been talking about getting back out there.
- Jerry Schuman
the nexus fits in my jeans back pocket
- Kevin Marks
Hey Tina: This will crack Steve up: "Here Comes el Son: Songs of the Beatles With a Cuban Twist by Various Artists" http://itunes.apple.com/us...
- Alex de Soto
@Clive: Taliban using DOS
- Chien-Yu Lin
A reliable source told me that AirForce One runs XP
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
there was never a netbook market
- Jerry Schuman
Good thing I just bought a bigger purse. Will be carrying a Nexus, a Kindle, an iPad -- and no more Air
- Francine Hardaway
Right, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
the Air was the netbook
- Kevin Marks
like the ipad was the tablet
- Kevin Marks
at my first company we provided and installed PDP11's in Air Force ONe
- Charlie Isaacs
Netbooks were the play things of alpha geeks. Mostly to make hackintoshs
- Jerry Schuman
@Chien-Yu Lin Taliban's haz Internets (bastards)
- clive boulton
lost the picture and sound
- studentforce
@Francine: Thanks. Could I contact you later about the AZ Entrepreneurs' conference?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I had to switch from the appleTV to the mac mini to get Breaking Bad watchable on the tv
- Kevin Marks
Season 2? Oh man, are you in for a roller coaster. Walt spirals into the abyss.
- Jerry Schuman
I show the stream working Studentforce
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i had to reload
- studentforce
I have that painting as well:-)
- Francine Hardaway
And now there's the Apple's rumored "Pandora-killer" which will likely only be IOS/iTunes only.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
too many platforms and devices
- studentforce
I think Bruce Willis want to sue Apple because he can't leave his content collection to his children after he's gone.
- Alex de Soto
on a tv via ipad
- Kevin Marks
Roku
- Stephen Pickering
What are you talking about.. I can read my books across devices... it's called DropBox
- Jerry Schuman
@Chien-Yu Lin of course. Watch this Scoble-esque gesture: 602.910.5622
- Francine Hardaway
Roku is great
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
or by a mac mini
- Kevin Marks
Makes no sense to me to buy books through Apple for that reason
- Tom Guarriello
Roku is awesome
- Stephen Pickering
I get my HBOgo via Roku
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
and my Amazon Prime movies via Roku
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Is that what you did,. Kevin? I couldn't get Breaking Bad to Airplay.
- Francine Hardaway
Still like my Roku for non-Cable content.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I used the Mac Mini
- Kevin Marks
and the appletv
- Kevin Marks
No one is ever going to buy music again, that's why Apple is making the move into Pandora's space
- Stephen Pickering
Jerry, that's such a spoiler
- Francine Hardaway
I have a Mac Mini, so I will give that a try
- Francine Hardaway
I didn't give him a spoiler.... seriously
- Jerry Schuman
Enterasys Isaac
- studentforce
mac mini plugged into an hdtv is pretty good, though you have to use safari, not chrome for netflix
- Kevin Marks
internet of things
- studentforce
I guess I just thought so because I'm all caught up, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
I buy my music from Amazon, and then I can add it to my Itunes library, Apple devices and android Devices.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Apple still locks in pretty well. Outside of 3rd party apps...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
on the train is where I want the tablet to work
- Kevin Marks
@John -- what is the razor for the enterprise (any chances)?
- clive boulton
With Spotify, I don't think I'll every buy digital music again. I may buy a Physical Vinyl record for the object quality and the novelty aspect
- Stephen Pickering
Crystal Blue Persuasion.... la la
- Jerry Schuman
Start All Over Again...Nat King Cole. la la
- Tom Guarriello
that is why we need a force.com app that will evoke digital context contextually
- studentforce
studentforce does that Scoble
- studentforce
Yeah, but if you add all of those services up, they're less than the total of my DISH bill
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin - Why can't the trains offer wi-fi? Would be productive on your NB San Jose - San francisco commute
- Tina Chase Gillmor
for eTextbooks .. its the holy grail
- studentforce
Nexus Fire, wasn't that in one of the Star Trek Movies ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
god yes, Tina. Instead they put it on the Stockton line o_O
- Kevin Marks
Amazon & Apple are in the best position to offer everything, music, tv, movies
- Stephen Pickering
Amazon's next step is original content
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Robert just voiced my major gripe. Content is not centralized. The closest is Apple
- Francine Hardaway
I use the Verizon 4g to WiFi adaptor
- Kevin Marks
I have to give Logitech's UE (formerly Squeezebox) Internet Radio some props on making Audio sources pretty centralized. Makes a solid Roku experience for radio.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Kevin ~ Sounder (Seattle commute train) has wi-fi. Always my Goog Galaxy tab 10.1 out.
- clive boulton
Not true. Spotify is better on Android
- Stephen Pickering
there he goes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Data vs. Logic
- Jerry Schuman
brace yourself for a Scoble explosion
- Tina Chase Gillmor
One problem with pulling together content from different apps is that it's hard to link them. Inter-app integration isn't as good as Web integration is.
- Evan Prodromou
What app is Scoble talking about?
- Tom Guarriello
If I were Microsoft, I'd drive the market this way: (1) Pair up with Dell (they've shown they have reach within business and will make devices cheaply, getting their money through service contracts and renewals); (2) Drive for a software suite that can be loaded into Tablets. Let's be honest: most people use less than 5% of all of the Word, Excel, PowerPoint functionality; (3) Establish...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
"Exsclobsion"
- Evan Prodromou
Steve smoking the peace pipe.
- clive boulton
A universal notification client sounds like a great idea. Don't think companies will allow it to happen though.
- Alex de Soto
The issue is DISCOVERY. DISCOVERY is facilitated primarily through word of mouth. IOS apps KILL Android apps when they're discussed from end users
- Jerry Schuman
so Scoble, why wouldn't companies aspire to make universal apps that seamlessly move from device to device while taking advantage of all of the best features of each device? That was Steve Jobs' vision from making universally easy products so that every app could work the same across their iPhone, and move to the iPad, etc. I agree with Steve, you and John are both right.
- Charlie Isaacs
You don't need Airplay with Netflix
- Stephen Pickering
guys ... in terms of eTextbooks (my focus) you are ALL WRONG
- studentforce
Browser, email, Netflix, Kindle, music player probably gets you pretty far
- Evan Prodromou
That's not true, Netflix's code and even UI is different on various platforms.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@Francine Hardaway: Thanks. Will call.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Some high schools are adopting iPads. Grooming the next generation of consumers?
- christina sponselli
true, but some is shared via HTML
- Kevin Marks
yes
- studentforce
netflix on appletv is weakest, cos it isn't their code but Apple's
- Kevin Marks
Good show folks!
- Evan Prodromou
@Sponselli: 7" iPad is basically dusting off the Apple II marketing plan. Smaller hands, smaller devices. What will kids ask for come Christmas once they use it in schools?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Goofy is a horse
- Kevin Marks
Twitter killed everything except for OAuth
- Jerry Schuman
Twitter killed itself because I don't even look at it anymore. All I look at is Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
i need instagraming on retina display (G+ has antlers which cover head shine)
- clive boulton
@Chien-Yu Lin: Seeing the trend of kids from a mid-upper economic group jumping from Touch in jr high to iPad in high school.
- christina sponselli
including JSONP
- Jerry Schuman
This subject I know very well, Goofy is a doggy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Charlie Isaacs
But if Goofy is a dog, what is Pluto?
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
I'm very upset of the loss of RSS from Twitter.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I haven't tried to scrape twitters html recently, is it still crufty?
- Kevin Marks
And surprisingly, Dave Winer seems to be totally fine with killing RSS in Twitter
- Charlie Isaacs
but Twitter added a new widget
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
It will cause me to no longer track things like Scoble's Stared Favorites in Google Reader.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
and the widget pulls text, photos and videos
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Anyone notice Twitter no longer using real-time follower notification (talk about going backwards)
- clive boulton
Twitter is moving to federation... you watch.
- Jerry Schuman
Thanks Evan. these guys are amazing. I still love to watch them joust. It's cool to fell the real time-ness of it, even for me.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Federated Twitter databases?
- clive boulton
@Sponselli: I'm kind of thinking that they would start more toward middle school. High school? I could get kids to buy a toothbrush that promotes tooth decay if I marketed it right.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I care almost nothing about Twitter anymore and everything about Facebook, which is exactly the opposite how I felt 2-3 years ago.
- Stephen Pickering
Does this gut some of Flipboard and Currents, or are they accessing Twitter elsewise?
- Denise Howell
'cos Dave Winer wants us to stop using twitter? (I don't know, he blocks me on twitter)
- Kevin Marks
Flipboard has to be nervous.
- Tom Guarriello
i think flipboard is using the rss feed, not sure though
- Kevin Marks
Winer blocks you, Kevin? That's flippin' hysterical!
- Tom Guarriello
Facebook machine learning algorithms failed for me. Zuck needs more data than I was willing to contribute.
- clive boulton
What happened??
- Tom Guarriello
Winer blocks everyone at some point
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter <> monetization = pivot
- Jerry Schuman
+1 Tina and so are you :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Anybody else lose the show?
- Tom Guarriello
@Chien-Yu Lin: Distinction of wanting and getting. Some parents, including this one, consider the amount of screentime their kids get and the parent monitoring time required.
- christina sponselli
So a "universal" browser for all of this stuff is unlikely.
- Alex de Soto
I show the stream up tom
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I lost the feed momentarily Tom but it came back, I thought it was my connection
- Charlie Isaacs
I just reloaded bldg 43 and it came back. Weird!
- Tom Guarriello
Lost the connection, but a refresh brought it back.
- christina sponselli
hmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cant explain that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I bet Dave Winer keeps saying that RSS Rulz!
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir - but of course
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Sponselli: Sure. Just saying many kids will go to college and there will be a time when being competitive as a student + school requirements + social pressure / status will create a situation where a purchase will be made. Bonding is pretty powerful, regardless of usage frequency and duration.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Robert, I can see some of your FB Favorites, via Incognito, not logged in
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Sweet Charlie. Thanks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
You hit the nail on the head and it's exactly the market Twitter is going to go after...
- Jerry Schuman
thanks because chatter is a feature of the force.com platform
- studentforce
Video down again
- Tom Guarriello
Chien-Yu Lin: Agree
- christina sponselli
Burberry vs Bogart Trenchcoat row highlights minefield who owns content...http://goo.gl/EfbU5
- clive boulton
For Facebook, most are social loiterers who use the medium as a digital scrapbook and internet chatroom.
- Chien-Yu Lin
But since, storage, bandwidth and processing halve in price every 12 months, then something like App.net may be viable in 5 or so years
- Stephen Pickering
Refresh brings it back
- Tom Guarriello
Go check out SylkServer from AG Projects. SIP/XMPP with presence support. Just heard they're going to release in the OSX app store. Light this thing up behind the firewall and get a complete message bus for the enterprise that includes, voice, video and chat.
- Jerry Schuman
ADS ARE ANTITHETICAL TO TWITTER'S ETHOS Twitter is about real-time information with little-to-no self-editing time between information and Tweeting / re-Tweeting. This is why Twitter is used primarily as a newsfeed and the SARG (smart-ass remark generator). And there's the challenge: (1) How Can One Monetize News? We consciously understand - or intuitively know - that news, unless there...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
whoa
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry ...
- Chien-Yu Lin
Lonest ever! ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
meant longest
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My thoughts exactly. Probably the longest post ever, during the Gillmor Gang show.
- Nir Ben Yona
Chien-Yu -- you forgot about Twitter as a "social megaphone for horrible customer service" -- expressing negative sentiment about brands. I would also add that people help each other solve problems on Twitter, and help each other accomplish things.
- Charlie Isaacs
Fast typist for sure or great speech recognition!
- Alex de Soto
Chien-Yu Lin - fantastic and provocative posts
- John Taschek
Awareness ads
- Tom Guarriello
Thesis ;-)
- clive boulton
CPM is higher the better qualified your prospect is...
- Jerry Schuman
I disagree with Chien-Yu about disposability - tweets do build relationships, especially the phatic ones
- Kevin Marks
Jerry: yes, because the efficiency is better.
- Robert Scoble
The HTC One + Engadget ad at JFK Airport: http://twitpic.com/as3zx9
- Nir Ben Yona
@Scoble: You are absolutely right. Awareness vs. Closing. But I making the claim that Twitter has some very definite disadvantages compared to other social forums.
- Chien-Yu Lin
and don't forget - its a GOODYEAR Blimp as you noted. So Goodyear gets the product placement too - even though you are miles away
- studentforce
Chien: that's true, but Twitter has hundreds of millions of eyeballs.
- Robert Scoble
phatic ones or phallic ones...
- clive boulton
http://j.mp/twittertheory phatic, clive. Phallic tweets don't build relationships
- Kevin Marks
@Marks: When you talk to people on Twitter do you come back for the information or do you go somewhere else (as with all of the links)? Also, have you made more "friends" from Twitter or from Facebook?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Chien: I've made more friends on Twitter but that is quickly changing.
- Robert Scoble
there are many different ways that people find to make a universal message bus useful, and those individual people get to decide which ways make sense for them
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin: nod
- clive boulton
many more from twitter than from facebook
- Kevin Marks
Chien-Yu: I often prefer the simplicity of Twitter versus Facebook, but FB is def. much more social.
- Alex de Soto
@Isaacs: Yes - Twitter is a fast response, complaint engine. But do you find that it is more of a "starter environment" or a "fostering environment"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Twitter has always been an Identity system. A tweet is nothing more then a Presence message
- Jerry Schuman
I'm nto invited to the apple event :(
- Kevin Marks
ing the gang?
- Kevin Marks
It's crazy that Twitter didn't build a business model around search, just crazy
- Stephen Pickering
@Alex De Soto: Agreed. Half the appeal of texting is not wanting the details and length of a conversation, but having the satisfaction of communication. We want acknowledgement, but not necessarily depth. We expect closure: that's why we have emoticons.
- Chien-Yu Lin
:)
- Alex de Soto
Twitter seems to be one of those apps with a lot of untapped potential, but the potential never seems to emerge.
- Michael Roberts
I dont get that about Apple
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hm, I'm at Mobile 2.0 on tuesday, going to be tough to get to disrupt in time. http://mobile2event.com/...
- Kevin Marks
Why on earth wouldn't they regularly invite Scoble?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
“It’s almost here.” http://www.macrumors.com/2012...
- clive boulton
Kevin... where is Mobile 2.0?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Grand Hyatt Union Square. Where's disrupt this time?
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Agreed. But do you think in the long term, will people buy from Twitter?; how will Twitter be able to claim advertising from its platform as effective (it is true mobile, but may have to create discount coupons that expire within 1 hour of setting off geo-fencing - granted, this is a challenge for all - but I see it more as a challenge for them since their transactions are so short).
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu: I see it is both, but I in my role I focus on customer service. It is a Starter Environment for initiating complaints, that are usually taken off line. It can also be a Fostering Environment; when an angry tweet falls on deaf ears it can foster collaboration (in some case "rallying the troops", in some cases others coming to the aid of the suffering Tweeter).
- Charlie Isaacs
@de Soto: Touche.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Google+ is focusing on events with hangouts... they're starting to really show off the capabilities
- Jerry Schuman
Facebook could also disaggregate some of its services like the status update, and voila a simple twitter feed
- Michael Roberts
You calling me a dark spot?
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry: yup, that's where Google is strong.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for joining us, good chat room today!
- Robert Scoble
IT conversations probably exist.
- Michael Roberts
@Isaacs: But do you find the speed of Twitter is more helpful than the granularity and details of Facebook? I know each has its place, but in the long run, would it not be easier for FB to just mimic Twitter than Twitter to build a profile base and communication platform?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Livestream also has a new device
- Jerry Schuman
Wish G+ will disaggregate some of its services like the status update, and voila a simple twitter feed (lite weight web)
- clive boulton
@Gang: As always, great information, learn something new each show. Be safe. Have fun this weekend.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I'll bike over from union square tDisrupt at 8th st after I get offstage
- Kevin Marks
Great show! Good weekend all.
- Alex de Soto
Good show all. thanks for being here to everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
about 12 mins by bike
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Chien-Yu
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry @Chien-Yu, got pulled off on a call :) That was a fantastic show, BTW. I like Twitter for its instantaneous activity capabilities -- you can Tweet something and get a response within seconds, whereas, FB has more of a delay. I know a lot of people who are always watching Twitter with one eye (because of what you said earlier about news feeds) and only check FB a few times a day. I...
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- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Agreed. I just think of the possible scenarios - and the underlying usage / "DNA" of each company - I am not sure that it will have the value we think it does. We will all have essentially a "stock ticker" of life that will quickly be ignored and commoditized.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu @issacs G+ has more delay than FB. But comes into its own talking-in-circles. {replaces email in the enterprise?}
- clive boulton
@cliveb @Chien-Yu Well, put on your "vendor filter" but of course I am biased towards Chatter, that replaces email in our enterprise, and many others... G+ is like Chatter in many ways but it isn't integrated into the other mission-critical apps in the enterprise. For example, you should be able to collaborate around any enterprise "activity" -- Leads, Cases, Interactions, etc. and it should feed into a common thread for you without having to cut and paste everything manually. You can't do that with G+.
- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Keep your "vendor filter" on. We're building a SAP/G+ app for nitty-gritty enterprise activity like chasing shortages.
- clive boulton
ok, will do, @cliveb thanks and good luck
- Charlie Isaacs
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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- Robert Scoble
Hi all
- Keith Teare
So last year at Qualcomm...
- Francine Hardaway
I've come to the point where I already know what Robert is going to say before he comes on here, because i've read it on G+/FB/Twitter
- Francine Hardaway
It's in all iPHones
- Stephen Pickering
Because the chipset is both CDMA and GSM
- Stephen Pickering
The same Qcom chipset is all iPhones
- Stephen Pickering
Apple iPhone 4S features Qualcomm chip http://www.reuters.com/article...
- Jerome Hughes
Yeah but how many phones have Scoble in them?
- Aron Michalski
Robert echoing here
- Jerome Hughes
Not nearly as compelling as Francine and her dog.
- Aron Michalski
yep here to but not on our end... think it's Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Aronski. I have a great new dog I am training to be on the show. one day I will just show up at Steve's house with my dog
- Francine Hardaway
It's weird and intermittent
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: I had the same problem with Skype and the drivers for my microphone.
- Francine Hardaway
targeted advertising to a moving target? That's the ultimate insult
- Francine Hardaway
Mike Arrington and I...
- Francine Hardaway
Couch sensor, bed sensor... this is a bit invasive.
- Aron Michalski
Only the bedbugs know what side of the bed I sleep on, and I want it that way
- Francine Hardaway
electronic echolocation sounds pretty freaky for those creatures that can hear it
- Jerome Hughes
no one is using their regular mic setups. oye vey.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OTOH, I just looked at my old tweets and was reminded of how skeptical I was about Twitter, and then Foursquare, and then videochat. And now I love them all.
- Francine Hardaway
Robert is right. These things will find a way to serve us, and we will make the tradeoff.
- Francine Hardaway
I like the idea. Sounds like more "automation" for me
- Tina Chase Gillmor
more, and more, and more intoformation
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The Internet Of Things will be very powerful when integrated into your Behavioral Switching and Lifecasting.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Tina, I'd love to get together when I am in HMB July 22-7. Ping me later?
- Francine Hardaway
yes Francine. sounds lovely really
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We are approaching the Singularity.
- Francine Hardaway
For those of us secure in our sharing, for better or worse, it's integration to established systems. For those who are threatened or very protective, it's a nightmare.
- Aron Michalski
I'm very secure in my sharing IF it serves me
- Francine Hardaway
Anyone else coming to SF?.... let's plan a summer get together
- Tina Chase Gillmor
:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I'm glad I am not having an extramarital affair though.
- Francine Hardaway
Grey, the studio cat, is complaining because he's locked outside and it's muy frio outside
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ah, here's that oldie but goodie… http://jromeh.home.comcast.net/~jromeh...
- Jerome Hughes
sensors as filters?
- Aron Michalski
Francine, the phone could tell you how to avoid being caught :-)
- clive boulton
"smart notifications" and "simple searches" - very relative adjectives
- Jerome Hughes
Jerry,that was bed ball billiards. I played it with my late golden Chauncey.
- Francine Hardaway
now Gray is trying to pick his way back in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Drinking sensors?
- Aron Michalski
He put the ball under the bed and I fetched with the broom
- Francine Hardaway
"more aware" a better term than smarter?
- Jerome Hughes
Gimbal is the foundation for mobile monetization: relevant ad exposure.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I ordered one.
- Francine Hardaway
Dan?
- Francine Hardaway
the Robert who cried Wolf :D
- Jerome Hughes
Steve actually said he's going to buy one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey everybody! I am going to teach at Dan's Cronkite School this fall
- Francine Hardaway
Google Now contextual calendar alerts are rather good.
- clive boulton
A class on the future and business of journalism
- Francine Hardaway
Tina, I ordered one
- Francine Hardaway
I agree with you Chien-Yu Lin
- Francine Hardaway
and on your phone, what software do you use to administer the control and how do you know to trust those who provide it?
- Jerome Hughes
Keith nailed it. OAuth web is out. XAuth personal device is in.
- clive boulton
You are assuming that you will have your phone everywhere you go... what other personal devices will shape the future of this technology?
- Doug Wolfgram
Francine Hardaway: Its just a simple mediation between profiles (likes), maps (travel paths) and velocity & cadence (accelerometer). Also, it has a lot of promise for emergency services (medical / fire / police).
- Chien-Yu Lin
we do have our phones with us wherever we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
situational awareness in realtime
- Jerome Hughes
I agree. I advise an ad tech company that's just waiting for this to save the online publishing business CHien-Yu LIn
- Francine Hardaway
I still think a smaller, pocket device that has the sensors but not the phone would be more practical for many locations...
- Doug Wolfgram
Hi Gang !
- Rocky Barbanica
This is happening as fast as Qualcomm can manufacture the chips out and make it the standard within the cell phone industry.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Hi Rocman
- Francine Hardaway
Heya Rocky :)
- Kat Armstrong
hey Rocky
- Tina Chase Gillmor
off air?
- Doug Wolfgram
I took PlaceMe off my phone because I didn't see how it could be used now.
- Francine Hardaway
dropped the show - what's up?
- Rocky Barbanica
Hey everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
off air
- Ankush Narula
Help us out here Tina... :)
- Doug Wolfgram
oops - have 4 bike route trackers, most often use the one that only transmits up if asked to do so
- Jerome Hughes
I lost the feed
- Francine Hardaway
You blew it up Rocky
- Francine Hardaway
In most bars worldwide the Phone is stacked up like a packet of Marlboro's once was.
- clive boulton
trying to get it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and we're back -
- Rocky Barbanica
there we go... sorry for ustream drop off
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Francine - you know me better than that :-D
- Rocky Barbanica
While we are waiting. Should I get a new sofa or Google Glass?
- Francine Hardaway
sofa
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Francine! I'd go with the sofa for now. ;-)
- Kat Armstrong
Big Brother is back....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Next week: Mountain Lion, no?
- Alex de Soto
I mena the tv reality show.... i love it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
How funny. Women all say sofa.
- Francine Hardaway
Oh, Moe says sofa. Unanimous
- Francine Hardaway
or two weeks, yes, Alex?
- Jerome Hughes
aaaaaaaaah track!
- Francine Hardaway
Jerome: You might be right.
- Alex de Soto
on Keith's seeing more personal sharing controls on a device, anyone working with XAuth? (OpenStack, Rackspace)
- clive boulton
Robert Scoble is absolutely right about the "strolling down the street, looking for food" scenario. As for user cases, its not about "when you would use it"; its about "the contextual mediation engine" to be developed. Once Gimbal is set, its about how the user can use it.
- Chien-Yu Lin
public clouds will go away. We'll all have private cloud storage in our homes.
- Doug Wolfgram
So it works differently for each user.
- Francine Hardaway
Ask the average individual where he/she wants their data in a public cloud... or one THEY control. Right now, only geeks care... but not for long.
- Doug Wolfgram
Scoble is working up to a freak out... it's bubbling
- Tina Chase Gillmor
push silos - sweet
- Ankush Narula
Doug, private cloud storage sharing controls, isn't it the new 'PC'...
- clive boulton
We're so close; who's gonna push him?
- Aron Michalski
Do we really want our devices to be running us ?
- Doug Wolfgram
I think it works the same way for everyone unless the engine can "learn".
- Chien-Yu Lin
clive - yes. :)
- Doug Wolfgram
PC stands for personal cloud?
- Francine Hardaway
datasift?
- Ankush Narula
Russians hackers will probably crash the contextual party. Governments and criminals will have access to the contextual stream. They will be smart enough to create alternative channels for themselves or stay off the grid altogether. Looking forward to the next 20 years!!!
- Alex de Soto
+1 Alex
- Ankush Narula
Francine - yes (from here on, Yes)
- clive boulton
So I will get robbed? I finally have to lock my door?
- Francine Hardaway
DNSChanger is a good example of context-jacking
- Ankush Narula
I assumed so Francine. If we have more control then the public cloud becomes a personal cloud ... isn't that what you meant Clive?
- Doug Wolfgram
Alex: yes. Heheh. Francine: your notifications will let you know you are at higher risk of being robbed so you can turn on your stun gun and get ready.
- Robert Scoble
It will be exciting for sure!
- Alex de Soto
Only if your phone is in your pocket Robert. :)
- Doug Wolfgram
Oh, my stun gun. I'd better learn how to use it
- Francine Hardaway
the unifier is your brain
- Ankush Narula
the street will also have its own uses for these technologies
- Jerome Hughes
Oh wait. there must be a stun gun app
- Francine Hardaway
Robert has a point - but if he wears a hat, it won't show
- Rocky Barbanica
there is that new stun gun iphone case. :)
- Doug Wolfgram
You are not kidding Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: Google Glasses with Lasers!
- Alex de Soto
Doug, Francine. Public cloud with XAuth = personal cloud = the new PC
- clive boulton
Wait - you can integrate a stun gun, but we can't get a smartphone with a flash...
- Chien-Yu Lin
That's Rev 2?
- Francine Hardaway
Atta boy Steve!
- Doug Wolfgram
I was waiting for that.
- Doug Wolfgram
Thank YOU Steve... "never allow you to tell IT what's important..."
- Kat Armstrong
Google Glasses with lasers will defend me from themselves?
- Francine Hardaway
Yep
- Alex de Soto
Or from the other users of contextual information who want to rob/sell/manipulate me? THis will really be a kick!
- Francine Hardaway
Or you might be pooping
- Francine Hardaway
Maps & Phones w/o Profiles = Spamming ads
- Chien-Yu Lin
I keep buying Mophies
- Francine Hardaway
early days... killed the battery and didn't provide enough benefit
- Jerome Hughes
Those of us who can't afford to go out and buy more batteries simply remove apps that suck up juice, no matter how "important" they may be. That's a simple fact.
- Kat Armstrong
Profiles w/o Maps & Phones = Desktop monetization only
- Chien-Yu Lin
Who mentioned afford? I can't afford anything I do
- Francine Hardaway
Not to mention that they'll get bad reviews Kat.
- Doug Wolfgram
Our bodies are great batteries. We'll eventually plug into ourselves. All you'll need to do is drink some beer to recharge! ;)
- Alex de Soto
Food is fuel
- Francine Hardaway
Francine - being a single mom working for myself, it's rare for me to buy *anything* for myself. And Doug - absolutely.
- Kat Armstrong
Moe Glitz: the key is to be completely vertically integrated: phone, tablet, OS, browser, search, maps, apps - all under one roof.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I was there for many years, Kat. Finally the last kid got a job
- Francine Hardaway
Francine - almost there! My youngest just graduated HS a year early and is off to college in mere weeks.
- Kat Armstrong
It's interesting, isnt it, to listen to folks who know what's coming and then can extrapolate what it's going to look like, feel like, and pitfall/problems. Hope the innovators are listening
- Tina Chase Gillmor
reco reading or rereading The Diamond Age about this stuff, reread it recently and it was good
- Jerome Hughes
Talk about me
- Rocky Barbanica
We are Tina. :)
- Doug Wolfgram
heheheh
- Rocky Barbanica
Brewster is way cool, BTW
- Rocky Barbanica
how about Twitter's moves re API and "simple search" ?
- Jerome Hughes
A Rackspace customer!
- Rocky Barbanica
Drew Olanoff wasn't too happy with Brewster : http://thenextweb.com/apps...
- kosso
Brewster is good, but needs better search. It aggregated my conacts, but I can't really find them anymore. And it decided my housemate wasn't in any of my address books.
- Francine Hardaway
While contextual search will suck the information out of Facebook, Facebook will still have value in that it is still a meeting space. Contextual search will be more for monetization (and people are not shopping all of the time).
- Chien-Yu Lin
What Chien-Yu Lin said
- Francine Hardaway
Keith nailing the shift to granular controls in the Personal Cloud via the phone. The OAuth king's not gonna 'Like' this shift to [you]
- clive boulton
kosso - I agree with Drew. Something that big should have been found long before it went live. To pass it off as no big deal b/c they're new just plain stinks.
- Kat Armstrong
Funny how Microsoft is going there but no-one really cares. It's all about brand in the social world.
- Doug Wolfgram
advance request… "Freaky" & Doc about the context sensitive stuff
- Jerome Hughes
Drew's review of Brewster is harsh.
- Francine Hardaway
intense typing background sound
- Jerome Hughes
Who is typing so loudly?
- Doug Wolfgram
I wouldn't trust any of these companies with my full contact list. Besides, it's NOT my RIGHT to give some company the details of other people - most likely people who will never use the service. That's such a betrayal of trust already. Of my friends! People shouldn't do this. Now, thanks to some people, my contact details are on some server somewhere, put there by someone else! I think that's outrageous.
- kosso
+10 kosso. Exactly how I feel.
- Kat Armstrong
Kosso - spot on.
- clive boulton
Moe & Francine: Its going to be a slugfest between The Big 5: Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft. They have to vertically integrate if for no reason just to hide their patents and searches. We just saw that Google was stealing search info off Safari.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Tina - why isn't the ON AIR light lit ?
- Rocky Barbanica
Didn't Rapportive get in trouble for stuff like this?
- Francine Hardaway
It's a bit distracting Rocky. In the old studio it was too visable. I actually haven't tries it in a while. Maybe foe next show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Why would we want all of our personal interactions mechanized?
- Doug Wolfgram
I just make all my G+posts public unless they are very specialized to health care
- Francine Hardaway
Steve, I agree with you. Which means Path will fail
- Francine Hardaway
Talking in Circles: Selective Sharing in Google+ http://forum.stanford.edu/events...
- clive boulton
do you care about PAth?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is it useful?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not very, and no. Tina.
- Francine Hardaway
The first step in content curation is noise control - Dick Costello
- Doug Wolfgram
A social graph is just a Venn diagram of commonalities. For likes, its a good predictor and recommender of other things (Amazon has proven that this idea works with its recommendation engines). For friend recommendations, not so much.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Steve's drinking out of his Gillmor gang cup today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Doug, is it all or nothing? won't we pick and choose what tasks (or task types) we assign to our virtual personal agents?
- Jerome Hughes
Tim Berners-Lee talked to us about this at Telluirde Tech Fest in 2002. It is his version of the Semantic Web.
- Doug Wolfgram
Gotcha - thx Tina
- Rocky Barbanica
Hi everybody. Coming in late. Is Keith Teare a regular now?
- Amyloo
Jerome -- because that is too much work for the commoner.
- Doug Wolfgram
Scoble is right, but what that requires is people categorizing / tagging their communications. Its easy for large written pieces because the content is clear. Its impossible and cumbersome for "throw-away" comments - and these are usually the noise violators.
- Chien-Yu Lin
John is sooooo quite today. shhh. he might be sleeping ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Chien-Y, and NObody likes to tag. Such as easy thing to blow off.
- Amyloo
an easy thing...
- Amyloo
Small, controlled, private networks. Implemented by Ecademy in 2008.
- Doug Wolfgram
John's wheels are turning how all this impacts enterprise.
- clive boulton
Doug, Ecademy should have been a contender.
- Francine Hardaway
No $$$ Francine.
- Doug Wolfgram
I know
- Francine Hardaway
We'll get Thomas over here and let him work his magic.
- Doug Wolfgram
Microsoft is dead as a brand. Sad. Products and technology? Great! Brand value? - going down fast.
- Doug Wolfgram
Ohhh.... raining in Chicago, needed that.
- Amyloo
hi Amy
- Hilary Talbot
Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil!
- Amyloo
Amyloo - I know, but until there is a way to recognize content, there's not a really elegant way to do this, unless a person has a discipline to make their profile to be "serious" or "casual" (and that may require one person having multiple profiles. I have a hard enough time maintaining my profile and that for my dog. I can't maintain id, ego and superego profiles of myself.
- Chien-Yu Lin
:) !
- Hilary Talbot
Not only are developers not excited building for Windows 8. MSFT PMs are demoing 8 on new Macbook Pros.
- clive boulton
Isn't Windows 8 actually the only OS that runs on mobile, desktop and pad?
- Doug Wolfgram
most folks won't buy computers over $1,000
- Da
We're all going to go to italy with Keith.... I wish!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Can I hide in a suitcase, Tina?
- Kat Armstrong
Doug - good point (yet the brand keeps point backwards to desktop)
- clive boulton
I want to thank you all for amusing me
- Francine Hardaway
l8r folks.
- Doug Wolfgram
Guys: Another great show.
- Chien-Yu Lin
thanks, everybody!
- Jerome Hughes
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Good show, Robert :)
- Kat Armstrong
good show - Thanks SG and TCG !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
Thanks Tina!
- Kat Armstrong
Awesome show
- Francine Hardaway
Thanks everyone... it warms our heart to see you for the live show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Standing buy with a bunch of Google kit!
- Robert Scoble
standing by with a bunch of apple kit
- Keith Teare
keith I can hear you
- Steve Gillmor
you can't hear us
- Steve Gillmor
do you have audio at all
- Steve Gillmor
keith - robert can here me. we will try reconnecting with you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't see the FF chat widget on the Building43 page for some reason
- Stephen Pickering
keith are your speakers on? Can you hear other sound?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
S Pickering... yes I see that. cant do anything about it now. Will deal iwth it after the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina No problem, I just opened another Window for it
- Stephen Pickering
Hi everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi there, ready to be called in
- Kevin Marks
Hi Tina!
- Aron Michalski
Hi Aronski
- Francine Hardaway
I did too Stephen. Hi Aron
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No video...
- John Taschek
I have a bunch of Google kit too
- Kevin Marks
also, speed test says the wifi is 64Mbit down, 48Mbit up, so bandwidth should eb good for a change
- Kevin Marks
I'm home and jetlagged. In perfect condition for GIllmor Gang.
- Francine Hardaway
Jelly Bean is making me want a Galaxy Nexus III
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Francine.
- Aron Michalski
Hello Friday afternoon distraction ...
- Laura Norvig
Just listening to the the show and watching this screen is kinda surreal.
- Aron Michalski
Also it's released! Why can't MSFT release things in a timely fashion?
- Stephen Pickering
uh - friendfeed - haven't been here in years
- Sebastian Küpers
I just ordered the Galaxy 7. I ordered the small one because I don't store stuff on a tablet.
- Francine Hardaway
@Moe He did. No.107 if I remember correctly :)
- Nir Ben Yona
He ordered #107 of the Google Glasses
- Francine Hardaway
Docs?
- Stephen Pickering
That's why I ordered the tablet. I want to be in the ecosystem.
- Francine Hardaway
Jesus Christ, Friendfeed is still alive?
- Michael Arrington
Jeezus. too many gadgets. Too many mics.
- Aron Michalski
Yeah, why didn't they kill it off like they did Gowalla, but I'm glad they didn't
- Stephen Pickering
hi everyone, I'm here, at least listening with one ear
- Charlie Isaacs
hi Michael A.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Shhhh, Friendfeed is a sekrit now.
- Laura Norvig
yes, Michael, Friendfeed is here but I think Jesus uses Google+ or Facebook, not sure which
- Charlie Isaacs
OMG Arrington just joined. It's probably the Google effect :)
- Nir Ben Yona
yeah, don't tell anyone at facebook that it's still online.
- Michael Arrington
hi mike
- Keith Teare
Jesus Christ. Arrington is still alive?
- Francine Hardaway
long time
- Keith Teare
no Ariana jokes, Arrington is on the feed
- Charlie Isaacs
oh snap, Francine.
- Laura Norvig
not a lot of chat
- Rocky Barbanica
$299 is a bit pricey for the Q streamer IMO.
- Nir Ben Yona
Tina, what did I miss about Steve last week? Why was he out of the loop? What about in a parked car?
- Francine Hardaway
tap tap - is this thing on?
- Rocky Barbanica
all of the rock stars are here today, even Rocky's on board
- Charlie Isaacs
Happy Birthday to Rocky!
- Robert Scoble
Happy Birthday Rocky
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Mike Arrington.
- Robert Scoble
does anyone remember the movie Sleeper and the orgasmatron?
- Charlie Isaacs
The Q looks like one of those bombs in Spy vs. Spy.
- Alex de Soto
@Alex LOL. Love this game.
- Nir Ben Yona
Nice to have stuff you're never going to use.
- Aron Michalski
feels so 2008 - btw shameless plug sign-up for beta http://thin.gs
- Sebastian Küpers
Because all the providers except for NFLX only work on certain systems
- Stephen Pickering
Charlie - we're on the same wavelength - I'm worried.
- John Taschek
For instance, obviously Amazon Instant wont work on it
- Stephen Pickering
The Google Q from 1973 - http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ol5psr...
- John Taschek
Bocce ball.
- Alex de Soto
I've never bought a TV show from Apple. But I'm cheap like that.
- Laura Norvig
oh, yeah, definitely agree with steve. I cancelled cable tv, just use apple tv.
- Michael Arrington
70% of viewers now watch TV over the internet
- Francine Hardaway
I'm guessing Keith "bought" it on bittorrent
- Michael Arrington
I do Hulu and Netflix, and playing around with Amazon instant. No cable or satellite.
- Laura Norvig
Thanks for the birthday wishes!
- Rocky Barbanica
I do the same thing. Watch everything on APple TV
- Francine Hardaway
Here is Scoble unpacking his Google Q: http://www.abba1951.org/bowling...
- Charlie Isaacs
Those contracts with cable suck
- Francine Hardaway
Laura, is Amazon Instant as good as iTUnes? As many shows?
- Francine Hardaway
haha John, you should be very worried about being on even a remotely similar wavelength :)
- Charlie Isaacs
No, definitely not. More similar to Hulu. Older seasons of random TV shows, some movies.
- Laura Norvig
the nexus tablet is a loser.
- Michael Arrington
Francine, It seems like all the latest stuff that comes out on DVD is available on Amazon Instant. I rented "21 Jump Street" on Amazon last night, watched on Roku
- Stephen Pickering
Best Buy
- Stephen Pickering
best phone ever other than the current iphone.
- Michael Arrington
THe HTC Amaze is a solid unit, plenty of memory, great camera.
- Aron Michalski
In Israel the Samsung Galaxy series is doing quite good.
- Nir Ben Yona
the nexus tablet should have a cell radio to do data AND calls. But they wouldn't market it as a phone. as a tablet that also makes phone calls. I always wish my ipad was a phone.
- Michael Arrington
Why can't Google Voice make a call from an iPad? Is there some kind of law or something?
- Stephen Pickering
microsoft's in the game?
- Michael Arrington
I use Skype on the iPad all the time. Don't need a phone
- Francine Hardaway
your foot?
- Laura Norvig
Microsoft's in the vapor and FUD game
- Kevin Marks
Everything shoves data into FB. That's why many people no longer like FB
- Francine Hardaway
The background notification sounds are like Silicon Valley outdoor nature sounds. I'm enjoying the no picture experience!
- Aron Michalski
This sound like the old Gilmour Gangs! hahahahah
- Stephen Pickering
scoble's 100% right, although he's a little over excited about it.
- Michael Arrington
Yeah, Events is weird.
- Laura Norvig
its funny with someone yells over noise protection :)
- Sebastian Küpers
WOW - Tell us how you really feel, Robert !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
steve, please turn that rant into a video clip
- Michael Arrington
You're a public figure who subscribes to everyone.
- Aron Michalski
LMFAO
- Rocky Barbanica
Holy cow! Chill out man!
- Alex de Soto
Rocky, I hope your editing the naughty Scoble words out. Oh wait, Rocky's not recording this. :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
By the way, Google just announced "Mobile App Analytics."
- Alex de Soto
WOW
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What drug is Robert on?
- Francine Hardaway
He gets mad at Google for being OG, but loves it when FB gets OG all the time
- Stephen Pickering
hey it's my birthday too!
- Rocky Barbanica
No FCC mandated delay or bleeping here!
- Alex de Soto
all the best folks - it's been real! adios!
- Rocky Barbanica
I don't see events showing up in my calendar, only in plus
- Kevin Marks
You open the door, anyone can come in.
- Aron Michalski
Bye Rocky, have a great birthday.
- Laura Norvig
Tina bleeped everything, no worries. Oh wait, I was listening to a dial tone.
- Charlie Isaacs
Best thing at Google IO: My son doing an Ignite: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Kevin Marks
You can't silence him. That's the problem.
- Aron Michalski
Robert's face is starting to match the red shirt.
- Alex de Soto
The Events feature actually has very cool potential, but people should be able to accept or decline an event before it ends up on their calendar.
- Laura Norvig
it's the same speech, without the screaming.
- Michael Arrington
Alex, that shirt was white when he started
- Charlie Isaacs
no...the problem is that you really can't delete your G+ account, it just recreates it for you
- Michael Arrington
Mike, you're just round the corner, right? going to drop in?
- Kevin Marks
Well. I think they need to be opinionated in order to move quickly.
- Darren
around the corner from what?
- Michael Arrington
Still glad I have so few followers.
- Aron Michalski
IO
- Kevin Marks
is it still going on?
- Michael Arrington
you were at creamery earlier
- Kevin Marks
i want one of those chrome mac mini things
- Michael Arrington
it's dying out a bit.
- Kevin Marks
I feel really left out.. I've had no event invites!!
- Raymond Lee
that's the one I haven't plugged in yet
- Kevin Marks
i wonder if that thing will play media files loaded onto a usb flash reader, effectivley giving it a hard drive
- Michael Arrington
I hope Louis Gray is gonna watch this chapter.
- Nir Ben Yona
refuse and can't?
- Stephen Pickering
Google + isn't interesting to discuss.
- Michael Arrington
Is there any noise control on Robert?
- Aron Michalski
don't follow stupid people, maybe?
- Laura Norvig
So basically what you're saying is G+ has no noise control?
- Darren
scoble, you're just randomly ranting now.
- Michael Arrington
He posted on G+ like ten times yesterday
- Stephen Pickering
He's getting squeaky...
- Aron Michalski
"pinteresting"
- Michael Arrington
I don't get random events posted on my calendar.
- Francine Hardaway
Facebook has too much noise control. Edgerank shuts up good organizations so nobody can hear them.
- Laura Norvig
and yet you can't stop talking about it.
- Michael Arrington
Yes, Laura. FB doesn't let me see people I want to see in my feed
- Francine Hardaway
My take-away from this is that I shouldn't post any more cute kitten pics on my Google+ and +Robert Scoble
- Charlie Isaacs
scoble follows 32,000 people on twitter
- Michael Arrington
track rocked
- Michael Arrington
Oh Steve...
- Francine Hardaway
Why was it banned?
- Stephen Pickering
track did rock. Streamboard tries to be track
- Francine Hardaway
I remember the future.
- Aron Michalski
how can you follow that many people on Twitter? You need way to many lists and rules to make it of any use..
- Raymond Lee
And what is it? I've heard Steve talk about "track" for 5 years and I still don't know what it means
- Stephen Pickering
you're explaining why you weren't full of shit earlier?
- Michael Arrington
A meta-heuristic algorithm for filtering based on topics for delivery.
- Darren
there has to be an app that would do that (track like function). How has that not been created?
- Laura Norvig
And not a word about Project Glass, so far :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Track gave you the ability to see keywords that you wanted to see
- Francine Hardaway
And does Robert really think Twitter - in it's native form - has noise control? You need the old version of Tweetdeck to do this.
- Raymond Lee
the problem is, smart people do have kids, or like to cook or whatever. Which you may not be interested in.
- Laura Norvig
yeah, talk about the goggles
- Michael Arrington
Thanks, Francine! So, why did they ban it?
- Stephen Pickering
this is so fun - but i gotta go to a meeting. Have a great weekend all.
- Laura Norvig
Hashtags are manual categorization. FB is automated and dynamic.
- Darren
Tina, is that clip of scoble's epic rant done yet?
- Michael Arrington
is noise control a real problem to the average user of social technology, with the average facebook user having 190 friends?
- Sebastian Küpers
I'm following the chat but don't have bandwidth on this train to watch the video. Hope I get the gist.
- Bruce Lewis
I want a ringtone version too
- Michael Arrington
Stephen they didn't ban it. Twitter took it out of the product. We think because they wanted to sell that information
- Francine Hardaway
Ah, ok, thanks Francine
- Stephen Pickering
track was very cool
- Hilary Talbot
It only takes a handful of noisy friends for noise control to become an issue.
- Bruce Lewis
When your list is small and manageable you can do it yourself. An algorithm can be gamed. Track was about people. When the trust is broken the offender is ejected.
- Aron Michalski
I hear you Mike
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Bruce sure - but isn't that easy to manage with circles or the lists on faceboom/twitter?
- Sebastian Küpers
why are "more followers" the goal?
- Michael Arrington
it's just ego stroking.
- Michael Arrington
Good question, Mike. Better followers are the goal.
- Francine Hardaway
Google+ circles make it easy for me, but like 97% of people on Google+ I'm technical. Facebook friend lists are hard to use even for me, though I do use them (when I use FB).
- Bruce Lewis
Here we go, the normal people argument again. Being you has its drawbacks.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin: Google+ technical support, how can I provide you with excellent customer service?
- Charlie Isaacs
I've read that. Plus is the next iteration of Google.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Scoble's rants resulted from an adrenaline rush from skydiving with his Google Glass device this morning -- he was under the impression that it would only work properly at 12,000 ft.
- Charlie Isaacs
I'd call it the normal people unknown (not argument). I thought FriendFeed's "hide other items like this one" noise control was easy to use, but it didn't catch on.
- Bruce Lewis
I want the cop to have them.
- Aron Michalski
the first version won't be interesting. I want the apple version a year later.
- Michael Arrington
First-person-view sports.
- Nir Ben Yona
I want the apple version too, because I suspect I will be able to see prettier things through them
- Francine Hardaway
Waze does that
- Charlie Isaacs
I cant find my regular glasses
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Waze can be very wrong, Charlie
- Francine Hardaway
TMI
- Francine Hardaway
rington #2
- Michael Arrington
Yes, Francine, social driving can be wrong, you are correct. If they start applying filters to it, then it should be pretty cool
- Charlie Isaacs
Google Contact Lenses
- Stephen Pickering
the ringtones will cost you ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
everyone images future tech being super useful, and then the reality is tons of games and tons of porn.
- Michael Arrington
With the Huawei version, the working class folks can afford it
- Da
no.
- Michael Arrington
Google location history thinks I work at Caltrain San jose
- Kevin Marks
I think eventually it will be able to provide multiple options to you and play each option for you and let you make a choice, a little bit like the Sherlock Holmes "next best action" flash forwards
- Charlie Isaacs
it'll be you walk into bloomingdales and it tries to show you info about the PEOPLE you look at.
- Michael Arrington
(it doesn't grok working form home)
- Kevin Marks
no, it's jane smith, and she's single, and do you want to message her.
- Michael Arrington
I always see you checked into Caltrain San Jose, Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
its about social, not buying jeans
- Michael Arrington
I may have set up an auto checkin there once to test it
- Kevin Marks
Technology is not about "usefulness" its about the "Medium is the Message"
- Stephen Pickering
don't go near that guy, men are all pigs -- the Google Glass app for my daughter
- Charlie Isaacs
it's still a man's world
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Mike will use it in the Creamery to source rumours
- Kevin Marks
Got to go... much love to all, have a great weekend.
- Aron Michalski
Good to see you Aron
- Francine Hardaway
you too Aron :)
- Charlie Isaacs
perfect for plowing the rice paddy. Plenty of peasanst texting on Nokias.
- Da
isn't that what the Creamery IS used for?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@ginatrapani tweeted "Sure I can't wait to try a pair, but Google Glasses seemed destined for Segway's fate: mall cops and city tours."
- Jerome Hughes
right, but with google glasses he'll ID and record people
- Kevin Marks
more reason to stay away from the mall
- Jerome Hughes
Mike will get alexia to jump out of a zeppelin over the creamery and get the story.
- Kevin Marks
when the pic is clear ill show it John T
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://gizmodo.com/5921823 Does Google Have Any Social Skills?
- Francine Hardaway
I liked Robert's response to that story, Francine
- Stephen Pickering
Moe, I was just thinking about it as well.
- Nir Ben Yona
Influential plumbers?
- Francine Hardaway
My non-tech friend last night said "I want something like my phone but bigger" - she has an Android phone.
- Kevin Marks
Could a 7 inch iPad dent Apple's margins
- Da
She liked the Nexus 7 and the $199 price
- Kevin Marks
Me, too Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
Da: I don't think so. I think it will dent Microsoft's margins first. After that, Apple will have a 7-inch tablet to compete.
- Robert Scoble
I'm in UK next week
- Kevin Marks
that was fun, thanks! Happy Birthday Rocky!!!
- Charlie Isaacs
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
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standby folks.... minor tech problem being shot down... ready to roll
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry I can't join today. About to get on a plane to come home.
- Robert Scoble
@scobleizer - What interesting gadget should I mention in your absence?
- John Taschek
Well, the big news this week was Facebook's new app store. I already downloaded 10 apps because of it.
- Robert Scoble
Next week will be all about Apple.
- Robert Scoble
Two weeks after that will be all about Google (and Facebook, probably).
- Robert Scoble
So jaded.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
You could check out Overblog: http://scobleizer.overblog.com/ which centralizes my social stuff into one URL.
- Robert Scoble
how long have they been going for?
- Christopher Harris
Sounds that way doesn't it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Actually this is a pretty good argument against streaming.
- Chris McKinney
Hey Robert.. what time is your flight? Looks like you and M have been having fun!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert should do one of those "What's in my travel bag" videos on YouTube.
- Alex de Soto
Hey I just joined but it sounds like Mr. Farber's audio is cutting out a little, or just me?
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie... not just you... but somehow, just Dan ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Tina. Hey, is that monitor on the far right the "Virtual Robert"?
- Charlie Isaacs
yes we have set a place at the table for him
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Look out! that Virtual Robert monitor might start fighting with Danny soon.
- Alex de Soto
Is he on dial-up? ;-)
- Chris McKinney
you need an animated gif of Scoble waving his arms and playing with a gadget
- Charlie Isaacs
Henry Ford, Edison
- Stephen Pickering
Here's an article on how to use Google+ (and Hangouts) on the iPad #UnnaturalActs but it works http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012...
- Charlie Isaacs
Plenty of forgettable entremanures out there. I don't think Steve Jobs is one of them.
- Alex de Soto
Steve Jobs will be in 50 or 100 years a lot less remembered than we think ... but he will be remembered ... how much he will be remembered deepends on the success of Apple in the next 50 years ...
- Johannes Siemers
Not optimizing Google + for the iPad is simply petulance on Google's part
- Tom Guarriello
Did I miss mention of Google buying QuickOffice?
- Alex de Soto
I think Robert S. must have boarded his plane
- Tina Chase Gillmor
A technical problem that Google couldn't solve if it wanted to?
- Tom Guarriello
On Flipboard in iOS you can share to various accounts but not G+ at the moment.
- Alex de Soto
Nicely pronounced...
- Tom Guarriello
Their petulance is exceeded only by their opulence
- Charlie Isaacs
We're all bored...lol
- Tom Guarriello
Tina, tell Steve he is not allowed to talk about the Beatles if he isn't going to use his Beatles mug, and without the Beatles poster in the background
- Charlie Isaacs
THis is a very boring convo, guys. I don't care about Google+ on the iPad.It works well enough for me, although not was well as on the Android
- Francine Hardaway
I will Charlie. Steve nixed the Beatles poster just moments before the show today.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
She will sober up in the ER
- Francine Hardaway
http://www.vh1.com/celebri... Lindsay will live on...
- Charlie Isaacs
Or?
- Francine Hardaway
Lindsey's car http://globalgrind.com/enterta...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
you'll see
- Steve Gillmor
:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Are we shitting on Linkedin now?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I just changed my FriendFeed password out of sympathy for LinkedIn
- Charlie Isaacs
Last.fm password issue.
- Ahmet Yükseltürk
Lindsey Lohan collided with an 18-wheeler. They're hard to see'
- Francine Hardaway
Francine... ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve's next question: "Does Google+ work on the Galaxy?"
- Charlie Isaacs
Gotta admire Danny's honesty!
- Tom Guarriello
Lindsey Lohan: "OMG why is that big moving wall driving on the highway"
- Charlie Isaacs
I predict Obama is out. They've done everything wrong this time. #fighting the last war
- Francine Hardaway
Greece
- Francine Hardaway
@Dannysullivan - see this: http://www.google.com/webmast... - I think webkit blocks the javascript.
- John Taschek
Moe... you saw it already?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It doesn't answer the questions about the universe? Shocked
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yeahh
- Matt Terenzio
Thanks everyone here... make it all better!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
meant to say you make the good better
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Tina, and thanks Steve for embarrassing me in front of everyone :)
- Charlie Isaacs
yes we missed robert, andkevin too.
- Steve Gillmor
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We are going to have an exclusive product launch from http://www.moboto.co on today's show (he launches soon). It's a cool iOS "appcessory". Plus, I have the latest Windows 8 on today's show.
- Robert Scoble
It's too bad I'll miss it.. the joys of moving drywall around in the rain (over product launches and Windows 8).. hah
- Kevin Costain
Say, @Robert, did you get this recent version of Win8 installed on a tablet? I wonder how nice that experience is.
- Kevin Costain
Kevin: nope, I'm running it on a laptop.
- Robert Scoble
hello there
- Kevin Marks
Hello Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. (Memories of the movie Spies Like us).. ;)
- Kevin Costain
did you read http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.ca/2012... robert?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yes, and I retweeted it too. I totally agree with that article.
- Robert Scoble
By the way, Mark Solomon @solomonomolos on Twitter is gonna join me. He worked at HP on the Palm team, so who knows what we'll talk about.
- Robert Scoble
I have, Kevin - I think it was Robert who Retweeted it into my stream..
- Kevin Costain
Oh, he still works at HP. Sort of like Woz when Woz created the Apple I.
- Robert Scoble
Just a few more minutes before we start. Steve is joining everyone into the call.
- Robert Scoble
I don't agree with that whole "a Windows 7 emulator tacked onto it" thing.. ummm.. well, anyway..
- Kevin Costain
Is there a reason why FF is still used as the comment system? Is Google Plus not up to the task?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: Google+ isn't embeddable yet. Hopefully soon.
- Robert Scoble
Now, I must go.. Have a good one folks... Thanks guys!
- Kevin Costain
Kevin: Windows 7 is sort of hanging out in the background.
- Robert Scoble
I think it is likely that it is not real time either -- that part of it seems very poorly implemented.
- Brian Sullivan
hi everybody!
- Francine Hardaway
ready to rumble
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
Brian: Windows 8 seems pretty fast.
- Robert Scoble
Who needs this?
- Francine Hardaway
looks like a character from Questionable Content
- Kevin Marks
what problem is this the solution for?
- Francine Hardaway
This can be fun for some but not for me.
- Terrence Yang
A custom dock! Just what I was waiting for
- Francine Hardaway
solution for lonely iphone owners
- Matt Terenzio
I'm not THAT lonely< Matt
- Francine Hardaway
it'll make John Malkovitch able to have longer conversations with Siri without his arm aching
- Kevin Marks
I am not following this to see a commercial -- can someone please end this?
- Brian Sullivan
Am I imagining it, or is each and every gang member smirking?
- Amyloo
John Taschek looks like he's into disco today with the combo of his big mic and that shirt.
- Jeff Grosse
I ho[e so AmyLoo
- Francine Hardaway
A few iterations away it could be a Star Trek-like concierge.
- Matt Terenzio
it's a platform - i can see this evolving with some interesting applications
- Ankush Narula
John Taschek is the disco King!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, please
- Francine Hardaway
That last snark was meant for Arkush:-)
- Francine Hardaway
yeah - i thought so
- Ankush Narula
who advises these guys?
- Francine Hardaway
looks like Pintsize to me
- Kevin Marks
rectangles and squares...brilliant!
- dan farber
and icons. because people don't read anymore ...
- Laura Norvig
hello Dan Farber
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Dan
- Francine Hardaway
can you get any real work done on a 7" $200 tablet?
- Ankush Narula
Steve drinking out of the George Harrison glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Samsung's Android tablets are at the $400-$500 range.
- Nir Ben Yona
Ankush: I don't think you have to. They're consumption devices.
- Evan Prodromou
if your work involves reading or watching video, sure
- Kevin Marks
i don't think that's the bulk of the tablet replacing a laptop/netbook market
- Ankush Narula
No ... not Office; maybe something else.
- studentforce
enterprise will care about Word
- Francine Hardaway
MS knows that enterprises take years to switch...so low risk
- dan farber
Give me love give me hope . . give me peace on earth
- Matt Terenzio
agree Dan
- Francine Hardaway
they developed Word and Excel on the Mac
- Kevin Marks
I believe corporations are increasing the rate by which they change due to byod
- studentforce
but people who work "in the enterprise" travel. And tablets are smaller than laptops, people want to get work done on their tablets, I think.
- Laura Norvig
Hey Dan
- Keith Teare
Mary Meeker's slides were real eye-opener
- Tom Guarriello
Thr new YOUNGER worker
- Francine Hardaway
all iPad all the time
- Tina Chase Gillmor
10" $600/avg tablet is the most dominant
- Ankush Narula
Talking to a guy from Princeton the other day and he was telling me all their young and old faculty/staff are using iPads
- Tom Guarriello
MS has to get in the tablet game before Apple/Android totally runs away...but on desktop slow to move...windows tablet needs to have business apps
- dan farber
I don't think that's true, Francine -- not in my workplace anyway, re:age
- Amyloo
re Meeker. I'm a devotee - here's my bit.ly bundle. https://bitly.com/bundles...
- Keith Teare
The case is made for Nokia/MS to buy RIM
- clive boulton
students are the real market. They will drive adoption of ALL the HW/SW/SaaS for the next 20 years.
- studentforce
yes, studentforce
- Francine Hardaway
but it will also drive windows users to iOS .... isn't that what John T was saying?
- studentforce
Metro depends on Chromebook Android convergence
- clive boulton
whoa Kevin just threw back a lot of whiskey.... or maybe it was iced tea ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
please lets get into an eTextbook discussion
- studentforce
Wonder how long it will take to become adopted in the workplace. Windows 7 took freakin' *years*
- Amyloo
eTextbooks MUST be platform, operating system, etc. AGNOSTIC. It has to be for all.
- studentforce
'not dramatic' - sounds perfect for 90 pct enterprise / home buyers
- clive boulton
does that look like a Whiskey glass?
- Kevin Marks
that's why they have to be agnostic
- studentforce
studentforce built on the force.com platform WILL BE THE STANDARDIZED PLATFORM.
- studentforce
Taschek ... tell him!
- studentforce
Lots of students just don't buy textbooks, not right away anyway, until they are sure they can't get by with out it for a given class
- Amyloo
Kevin, every vessel could be a whiskey glass... in my book
- Tina Chase Gillmor
community colleges aren't going to give each kid an iPad and tell them to read their texts on it, Robert. You are dreaming. Cheap tablets will also be used
- Francine Hardaway
lol, Keith Teare, FUYM! Nice new acronym!
- Tom Guarriello
Studentforce has a point. He may not end up being the platform, but IOS won't be the only one eithrr
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: 'BOOM"!
- studentforce
HTML5 - we FUYM!
- Keith Teare
I'm not beating you up
- studentforce
WIX is a wonderful startup and they just shifted to HTML 5 http://instagr.am/p...
- Nir Ben Yona
bullshit
- studentforce
You guys see the O'Reilly editor last week who thinks Amazon is going for $zero for books. Says they'll be ad supported?
- Amyloo
That makes sense
- Francine Hardaway
There's only so many Palo Alto budgeted schools.
- clive boulton
Robert, I teach in a college
- Francine Hardaway
Amyloo: I agree that might be the way they go. I'm thinking of doing a book and we're thinking of doing it for very low cost.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone familiar with Chegg? Just noticed they have a new extext reader - not sure for which platforms
- Laura Norvig
I would bet on Kickstarter-funded books over ad-funded
- Kevin Marks
Francine: yup, I know. You probably are right that Android will get in the game but for now all I see is iPads when I visit college campuses and textbook companies. That probably will change, though.
- Robert Scoble
Ellison has a web camera on Oracle roof pointed at Osprey nest.
- clive boulton
think Steve just got iced tea up the nose
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Amyloo He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days now without taking a fish. (Sponsored by Chicken of the Sea) . . .
- Matt Terenzio
For Robert: 5 slides on eTextbooks: https://studentforce.my.salesforce.com/sfc...
- studentforce
nice, MT
- Jerome Hughes
Matt is v. silly
- Amyloo
someone released the hounds
- Kevin Marks
Terenzio: Hemingway????
- Francine Hardaway
right
- Matt Terenzio
shoot I missed Kevin's puppies
- Tina Chase Gillmor
enjoyed rewatching OMatS one late night at a friend's recently… Spencer Tracy
- Jerome Hughes
brb, need another drink
- Kevin Marks
hey Kevin bring me one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wonder if the ever decreasing cost of advertising due to the ever increasing inventory is enough to pay an author.
- Matt Terenzio
Steve stole his daughter's Beatles poster
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's not enough to pay for a news article apparantly (Partially joking)
- Matt Terenzio
Beatles poster looks like giant Windows Phone!
- clive boulton
thats partly because they give away their old products and then the bottom o the pyramid can experience Apple
- Francine Hardaway
and how will it be after the new iPhone?
- Jerome Hughes
they should stick to manufacturing hardware - SAMSUNG
- studentforce
old models waterfall down. like mercedes
- Francine Hardaway
doesn't SAMSUNG make the components for iPhone/iPad ??
- studentforce
My thoughts exactly. I truly hope i'm not going to be disappointed from the iPhone 5 screen, it's probably gonna be around 4-inch but taller, not wider. Not a fan of that. S III on the other hand...
- Nir Ben Yona
reimagine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't agree. with Mobile SDK's like those from salesforce and others the new apps won't be hangovers from web services
- studentforce
who scoops up RIM?
- clive boulton
Moe: Can't wait to see the new Apple TV UI.
- Nir Ben Yona
Palm will buy RIM !!!!!!!!!!!
- studentforce
Hi GG Gang- RocmanUSA is in the house!
- Rocky Barbanica
data, containers, devices...colonization and walled gardens
- dan farber
least common–most rich
- Jerome Hughes
Ouch - Palm buys RIM!
- clive boulton
google glasses vs beatles glasses?
- Kevin Marks
Moving into a commerce area. If that's contextual, then okay.
- Francine Hardaway
Oracle buys RIM...back-fits Android?
- clive boulton
HAH -
- Rocky Barbanica
I want to be on the train instead of driving
- Kevin Marks
HUD
- Jerome Hughes
can't blame it on the fog - eh, Steve ? :-D
- Rocky Barbanica
Admented Reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ankush Narula
Penny Lane is in your ears and in your eyes!
- Tom Guarriello
Ah Blame Myself
- Jerome Hughes
Augmented reality will finally make me a good driver
- Francine Hardaway
Tom ***!!!
- Rocky Barbanica
What about all the new privacy rules
- Francine Hardaway
EU privacy rules, and IE10 with DoNotTrack on by default. screws with context
- Francine Hardaway
Google glasses and double beer can headsets
- Rocky Barbanica
Good one Tom G.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Beer glasses - oh dear!
- clive boulton
Google Beer Goggles?
- Kevin Marks
Thanks, Rocky and Tina!
- Tom Guarriello
"... but I saw it in my Google glasses"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Or as Jarvis would say, Blurmany
- Francine Hardaway
Moe, cops are lagging on distraction, don't really want to enforce the laws on the books. I do think GGlasses could be deadly for very young drivers.
- Amyloo
Is someone referencing us for stock trading advice?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
my young driver loves android turn by turn speaking directions
- Kevin Marks
amyloo, they're the most bombarded and so defensive
- Jerome Hughes
if so they're in trouble
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Isntthat the Browning effect?
- Francine Hardaway
the internet of things http://www.forbes.com/fdc...
- Laura Norvig
New FB hires are now offered Put options
- Kevin Marks
We create the reality around us anyway
- Francine Hardaway
If Glasses are really smart they won't work if you are in the driver seat of a moving car
- Matt Terenzio
Google glasses at work, instead of phone interruptions.
- clive boulton
ooh, Francine, that is deep.
- Laura Norvig
Google glasses are gonna get people killed - check me -
- Rocky Barbanica
Unless you jailbreak your glasses
- Matt Terenzio
until someone gets shot
- Matt Terenzio
If I'm getting stressed out will Google glasses show me something zen?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Can you say FRIDAY ... and Crown Royal ! I know you can.
- Rocky Barbanica
FB new hires granted 'shorts' and hoody
- clive boulton
Tina, they will reach up and rake your eyebrows, believing they are a garden.
- Amyloo
more instant instant
- Jerome Hughes
google phone, google tv, google...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
BMW has already implemented augmentations into its cars.
- Nir Ben Yona
it's about what's on the displays, is it not?
- Jerome Hughes
they'll turn black like Steve said, Tina
- Kevin Marks
Which models, Nir?
- Francine Hardaway
bluetooth is too laggy for driving info
- Kevin Marks
my daughter could use that new speed limit thing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's not about where you are looking or where your hands are. http://www.nsc.org/safety_...
- Amyloo
Francine: All the new BMW models already feature front-window augmentation (speed, weather, fuel, etc.).
- Nir Ben Yona
imagine what it was like when people first got radios in their cars...had to be very distracting
- Tom Guarriello
in the UK they have speed limit signs that show a smiley face when you're below it and a sad face when you're above it
- Kevin Marks
record players in cars were worse, you had to turn them over
- Kevin Marks
Drivers will have to retrain themselves not to be distracted
- Francine Hardaway
Google glasses push notifications, instead of phone interruptions, yes.
- clive boulton
and, they skipped, right Kevin?
- Tom Guarriello
Waze tells you not to navigate while you are driving, Robert. You have to tell it you're the passenger
- Francine Hardaway
"I wasn't texting, I was checking my GPS!" ~ driver who passed too close while staring between his legs
- Jerome Hughes
@clive - combine that with http://www.toxel.com/wp-cont...
- Ankush Narula
Kevin, that's funny
- Francine Hardaway
I don't have any ads on my Facebook feed for some reason.
- Laura Norvig
that's SLOWLY ?
- Rocky Barbanica
Great ad find, Kevin.
- Tom Guarriello
great the very loud gardeners have arrived
- Tina Chase Gillmor
LOL !
- Rocky Barbanica
ha @Ankush - wearable k/b pants
- clive boulton
Tell me how Facebook is going to monetize mobile
- Stephen Pickering
# x of X
- Jerome Hughes
btw can someone PLEASE update the Gillmor Gang wikipedia page... please
- Tina Chase Gillmor
is that opening in US this weekend? it premiered in UK last night
- Kevin Marks
Facebook is going to monetize mobile by reinventing identity auth
- clive boulton
PLEASE!??!?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Did you see the Amanda Palmer kickstarter
- Kevin Marks
You can update it. You just can't create it
- Francine Hardaway
Agreed with clive - FB will monetize mobile using identity, trust, social context, mobile payments
- Ankush Narula
LIVE EVERY THURSDAY AT 1PM PACIFIC
- Jerome Hughes
Yes you can get liner notes on Spotify. Take a look at "The Complete Collection" app for spotify. Info here: https://www.spotify.com/us...
- Mark Krynsky
998 views - not too bad! Go GG
- Rocky Barbanica
Here's a direct link to the app: http://open.spotify.com/app...
- Mark Krynsky
I think salesforce is gonna be the one that will monetize mobile with identity auth but it won't be 'mobile' like we know it A more accurate description would be 'portability'
- studentforce
live musicians are under attack from recorded music
- Jerome Hughes
Krynsky! Happy Friday.
- Laura Norvig
Jerry, your drugs are working very well
- Francine Hardaway
The Stones!
- Stephen Pickering
what drugs? where?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
friendfeed was using 18% of cpu? really?
- Kevin Marks
Tina, next to the whiskey.
- Laura Norvig
The oned that are making Jerry funny
- Francine Hardaway
this episode of the the Gillmor gang brought to you by.....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...by the music industry, Tina
- Francine Hardaway
Apple?
- Ankush Narula
who's this Jerry guy?
- Jerome Hughes
Jerome? Is it you?
- Francine Hardaway
one more link for Robert and Francine: http://beagleresearch.com/more-in...
- studentforce
Moe: nope.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
Laura. ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Here's a press release for "The Complete Collection" app and unfortunately it states that there were only 150 albums at launch with "more coming soon" http://www.engadget.com/2012...
- Mark Krynsky
yes and haven't been Jerry for decades now
- Jerome Hughes
oops
- Francine Hardaway
ya TINA
- Rocky Barbanica
francine, it's not the music industry, it's the phonograph industry
- Kevin Marks
Metro unavoidable stepping stone, where too next...
- clive boulton
np Francine thanks all
- Jerome Hughes
We are in control baby !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
right! The phonograph:-)
- Francine Hardaway
metro is the floating lilypad you think is a stepping stone
- Kevin Marks
Hi Laura.
- Mark Krynsky
nice show all. fun start to summer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Show has become very smooth, Tina. Moved right along today especially, seems like.
- Amyloo
live musicians group protesting recorded music movie theaters… http://bit.ly/K3rGZA
- Jerome Hughes
Frogs do well on Lilypads (msft better have next pad ready)
- clive boulton
Thanks Amyloo. Yep, had a good feel and nice pace
- Tina Chase Gillmor
is art to have a tyrant? http://bit.ly/MgwMJ5
- Jerome Hughes
Good show, Tina.
- Tom Guarriello
thanks Tom
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Hi there
- Kevin Marks
Hi there :-)
- Stephen Pickering
Hello world!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hello everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
kevin we just tried you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin... you there?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
John T. are you there?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry, went to get a drink
- Kevin Marks
We will be on shortly.
- Robert Scoble
I'm here. I went to get a drink with Kevin.
- John Taschek
Facebook Browser Is Imminent [RUMOR
- Stephen Pickering
But they won the one in 1812
- Stephen Pickering
I've always wondered this, what do Brits think about Americans in general?
- Stephen Pickering
asking those of us who emigrated here might not be representative
- Kevin Marks
Eben Moglen's speech was good on this
- Kevin Marks
Speed matters
- Kevin Marks
T-Mo and Linksys-Cisco announced strategy chg to mobile apps (html5 on native api's).
- clive boulton
Wow, does Doc really think Facebook is going to fail?
- Stephen Pickering
T-Mo are hard core about, laid off some app ppl. Hiring html5
- clive boulton
M/colleague Pat Patterson spoke about this at gluecon: http://www.slideshare.net/metadad...
- Kevin Marks
Ping had facebook integration, for about 15 minutes after launch
- Kevin Marks
Cause he's got like 35 cameras
- Stephen Pickering
It's almost like in our subconscious we don't like mixing marketing or business with Social.
- Stephen Pickering
Moe, Facebook finally added a dislike button. It's called NASDAQ
- Laura Norvig
Right on 'Authenticity' not Adverts
- clive boulton
Print mags are cheaper to subscribe to than on the iPad
- Stephen Pickering
the animated page turn is smoother
- Jerome Hughes
than a slide show, which is what many sites currently use
- Jerome Hughes
oh hell no
- Tina Chase Gillmor
there's a reason I don't friend Robert on facebook
- Kevin Marks
/* no comment */
- Jerome Hughes
Exactly, Ads and Zucks model is busted.
- clive boulton
I thought these guys would be all over SpaceX
- Peter Mullen
how can you improve performance if you don't measure the results?
- Jerome Hughes
Woa! I just came in and there's talk of condoms with GPS?
- Alex de Soto
If Scoble fly's SpaceX who will stand up for Facebook
- clive boulton
Looks like John T is wearing Project Glasses on his face.
- Nir Ben Yona
It was Shaker.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: we're coming to SpaceX.
- Robert Scoble
What is this called? I'm a guitarist
- Stephen Pickering
it's called gTar
- Kevin Marks
Love the fact we're still using FF for this conversation.
- Darren
GillmorGang test driving the Google glasses
- clive boulton
I always imagined that I could play the violin very well
- Tina Chase Gillmor
in my head, of course
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nice to see Gillmor still baffling his guests with absurd statements like that.
- Darren
Darren I was just talking to Steve about that. Still don't have a better realtime alternative
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I wish we had Facebook or Google+ here so I could like Darren's comment.
- Robert Scoble
disrupting ProTools and "real" guitars by finding an unserved audience on a platform building ubiquity
- Jerome Hughes
iPhone Air Guitar - rather cool http://www.kickstarter.com/project...
- clive boulton
liking "TooManyTabs" and "Ghostery" add-ins in Mac Chrome
- Jerome Hughes
I still like readability best
- Kevin Marks
it is important, but the buffoons have no idea what to do with the knowledge
- Jerome Hughes
hey, you might want to buy all these albums you already own!
- Jerome Hughes
FB only knows I don't use FB, Google knows eveything
- clive boulton
Self driving cars are the ultimate advertising platform
- Kevin Marks
'drive me to the restaurant'
- Kevin Marks
All of Pandora's revenue is mobile ads
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: a self driving car is already going to know what restaurant I want to go to. :-)
- Robert Scoble
or paid versions to turn the ads off
- Kevin Marks
So premium users will have a driver?
- Nir Ben Yona
Facebook to buy kickstarter, says me
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It almost seems like they could double revenues overnight by putting the ads down the left side of the page
- Stephen Pickering
Kickstarter has way more growth potential than FB. That would have to be a lot of cash
- Kevin Marks
Sounds like LSE opening prices game
- clive boulton
"Facebook’s stock should trade for $13.80." http://www.marketwatch.com/story...
- Alex de Soto
Gray the studio cat is trying to scratch his way back into the studio
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It went down again today. I have it at $32.00
- Francine Hardaway
A year ago quarter revs were 700 million, this years quarter revs were 1 billion, that's 30% yoy growth, which if you times 30 x 1 billion, I'd give FB a valuation of 30 billion at this point in time
- Stephen Pickering
http://pinterest.com/pin... Hockey Stick curve?
- Kevin Marks
Of course the bigger problem is that we have no idea how much the dollar is going to be worth in 5 years. Right now the market is awash in liquidity
- Stephen Pickering
Amazon stocks crashed down severely at the beginning, and then climb %1200.
- Nir Ben Yona
And Amazon still has about a 90pe
- Stephen Pickering
It's not today, but it could be in a couple years, it just depends on the growth rate
- Stephen Pickering
Moe, I totally disagree.
- Robert Scoble
Usually you take the growth rate x earnings = the company's worth
- Stephen Pickering
No doubt that Facebook is going to grow some $$$. The potential is there.
- Alex de Soto
Even if Robert is right, at this moment in time, Facebook isn't worth 100 billion
- Stephen Pickering
When they execute what robert is talking about, then they'll be worth 100billion or more, perhaps
- Stephen Pickering
Market cap is $68.2 bn
- Kevin Marks
Driving fly over country, main street has follow me on Facebook signs like visa/master card
- clive boulton
Robert is correct, but the thing he is missing when it comes to the stock is that much of the upside that he is talking about is already baked into the valuation.
- Johnny C
Bought FB at $35, got stopped out at $32, bought it back at 32. If I get stopped out again, I'm done
- Francine Hardaway
That's why it was foolish to buy at 38, because even if they are successful they still have to grow into that valuation
- Stephen Pickering
Johnny C: You nailed it.
- Alex de Soto
I remember when the entire valley was wanting to short netscape stock…
- Kevin Marks
Shorts already in. 3 days after the IPO.
- Johnny C
I'll buy it for 50 billion, but I don't think it'll ever get that low
- Stephen Pickering
So why did google take the search button off android?
- Kevin Marks
google as a head? Not a body?
- Kevin Marks
Sound and video are better media for adverts for mobile
- Stephen Pickering
If not Facebook / Google not the new mobile identity Sears catalog who?
- clive boulton
lete's ride in Scoble's car. It's nicer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
blue gene, watson on jeopardy, but the front end
- Jerome Hughes
When they integrate the glasses with a Siri-like product ... yeah, that could be cool
- Laura Norvig
so why will the rabble accept adverts on glasses, but not on mobile?
- Jerome Hughes
I miss the part of the conversation where we talked about the wireless condom. Was more interesting than this part about Google glasses
- Francine Hardaway
I thought Scoble said they have to deliver utopia
- Tina Chase Gillmor
how much uptake is there on foursquare radar?
- Jerome Hughes
hm, when I unmute I can't hear you. Getting wind noise from me?
- Kevin Marks
Francine, it was about transmitting data like fitbit. We didn't actually talk about transmitting bathroom data but it almost went there
- Laura Norvig
No it's ok on this end Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm addicted
- Stephen Pickering
I'm muted
- Kevin Marks
"This utility was brought to you by Calvin Klein."
- Nir Ben Yona
Could Facebook successfully sell a phone that allows Facebook users to talk with friends for free? Cellular service would be supported with advertising (kind of what Amazon did with first Kindle).
- Alex de Soto
Buy MSFT Stephen!
- Alex de Soto
It's hard to imagine the Government letting any company getting much bigger than 500 billion, but hey, if they are netting 50 billion a year after tax and growing faster than FB or Google
- Stephen Pickering
I sold my apple stock in 2003 at $10 - I'm the wrong one to ask
- Kevin Marks
Ouch, Kevin
- Stephen Pickering
You're right, Laura...
- Francine Hardaway
Kevin: I sold mine at 22.
- Robert Scoble
Pre-split.
- Robert Scoble
Apple is too pricey
- Francine Hardaway
Never MSFT
- Francine Hardaway
right, $10 was correcting for the split
- Kevin Marks
I bought Apple stocks at $350 and sold at $600.
- Nir Ben Yona
Maybe INTC
- Francine Hardaway
Well, apple is only trading at just over 10x and they are growing faster than Facebook and Google
- Stephen Pickering
Tim Cook just willfully gave up $75M in interest that was rightfully due to him. Those types of moves should be championed (regardless of how rich he is).
- Johnny C
You have to be able to buy enough of any stock so that if it makes small moves you make some money Apple is impossible for individuals
- Francine Hardaway
How can you say they are building a "web" when they are so closed in so many ways?
- Laura Norvig
Moe.... the iPad mini is real. It's called the iPhone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The market has a bias against metal benders like Apple versus media companies like Google, Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Because MSFT squanders their cash
- Stephen Pickering
Yes, but FB must monetize its traffic. IT can monetize the lower end of the pyramid with virtual goods, like they used to sell.
- Francine Hardaway
apple has great margins
- Kevin Marks
But Apple doubled profits off a 6 billion dollar base the year before. Has any company in history done that?
- Stephen Pickering
FB can maybe double users twice more, if it gets every mobile user on earth. they need to grow revenue per user enormously to justify the valuation.
- Kevin Marks
You know you all are going to buy the new MacBook Pros
- Stephen Pickering
siri vs. knowledge graph?
- Erik Goldhar
not a macbook pro, an air maybe
- Kevin Marks
AAPL: TV isn't baked into the valuation ; neither is China
- Johnny C
I just laughed out loud.
- Francine Hardaway
Apple has great margins, but after I saw the Samsung SIII phone I can see how Apple's margins could go down.
- Robert Scoble
The new Macbook pros are being refreshed soon with that new Intel architecture and a retina screen
- Stephen Pickering
it acted as an airplay reciever - that's what
- Kevin Marks
srsly folks waiting for new MBPs
- clive boulton
Stephen, since Windows 7 came out, I don't buy Mac products anymore because I cannot afford them.
- Laura Norvig
Robert, will it be on AT&T? I am a prisoner of AT&T. Life sentence
- Francine Hardaway
FB: All of the fantasy is already baked in @ the IPO valuation. What Robert is talking about might ring true some day, but it's already in the valuation.
- Johnny C
Francine, check out Ting.
- Laura Norvig
somehow when my mic is leve I can't hear you
- Kevin Marks
But how can you say that when they doubled revs and profits the last two quarters? That's 100% growth isn't it?
- Stephen Pickering
I agree, they have to to crush it with the iPhone 5
- Stephen Pickering
But dammit, I want that iPhone 5 now! Not this fall!
- Stephen Pickering
Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Salesforce, these are the companies
- Stephen Pickering
John T, when you describe it that way, Apple and Google sound a lot stronger than Facebook. Users can move, if they can take their social graph with them.
- Laura Norvig
Shoot. Just getting here at the end again, and only get to hear from Steve about how it really is, missing what "it" is, and all the foregoing talk about what it isn't.
- Amyloo
guess you'll be watching the recording, Amy… as will I, as have been pulled away a bit
- Jerome Hughes
You have to believe Zuckerberg's going to figure this out based on his track record
- Stephen Pickering
Jerome, yup, usually do by Sunday. habit now.
- Amyloo
yes you guys will have to watch this one from the beginning. Very strong show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think the biggest disruption that Facebook may make is in the local market because you can choose to market to only certain cities and zip codes
- Stephen Pickering
"It's a thin line, between love and hate."
- Stephen Pickering
thats my argument for android
- Kevin Marks
A winning advertising model will be more subtle, more integrated with stronger social ties, won't feel like advertising. That's why businesses of all sorts are struggling to understand social media.
- Laura Norvig
There's ample advertising shelf space because the network is so huge. Think of millions of shelves across millions of individual users with very different profiles across millions of devices.
- Alex de Soto
What was the no.2 razor company behind Gillette?
- Stephen Pickering
What's this app? Waze?
- Stephen Pickering
this is nothing. I've heard way bigger fights on here!
- Laura Norvig
JohnT, nailed it. advertising = maybe
- clive boulton
If you're a veteran of GG, your right, this is nothing! heheheheheheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: Wipe the spit off your camera. ;)
- Alex de Soto
I feel like Google knows too much about me, so it feels wrong to think there's an info deficit on their side.
- Amyloo
No, that's some pounding the table!
- Stephen Pickering
I have one: http://www.withings.com/en...
- Alex de Soto
Solution comes from granular identity plus authorized authenticity
- clive boulton
what clive said. and it also has to be easy to control
- Laura Norvig
if Google, Facebook and Microsoft are not listening to this show they're crazy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cliveb has a good formula. Add a little bit of "pretend serendipity" and I'm sold.
- Alex de Soto
yes, oauth is the answer. FAcebook refusing to auth any data to google is an issue, Larry is right about that.
- Kevin Marks
thanks for the vote, check out OpenStack -keystone
- clive boulton
Ray used to watch our show. I know that for sure
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, I so wish Danny Sullivan would have been on this show when Scoble was going off! hahahahhhahahah
- Stephen Pickering
What is Ray Ozzie doing now. Probably doesn't have to do anything, but probably is?
- Amyloo
Cookie law! #pii
- clive boulton
Ray wont sit still. I cant remember what he's doing but he's always moving forward
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ray is probably making yet another iteration of Groove
- Kevin Marks
What's that app Scoble was talking about? Ways?
- Stephen Pickering
Waze
- Kevin Marks
Do I need a blood pressure pill?
- Francine Hardaway
Thanks Kevin
- Stephen Pickering
waze
- Laura Norvig
Waze, Stephen
- Francine Hardaway
Cheers!
- Nir Ben Yona
Thank you all, have a good one
- Stephen Pickering
Congrats to Patrick
- Francine Hardaway
Great show. Bad for me, but great show
- Francine Hardaway
yes, buggy.
- Francine Hardaway
Patrick and Naomi: Good job. Oh the Places You'll Go. (best graduation gift ever is the Dr. Suess book of that title.
- Amyloo
a "wow" show for me. Thanks to everyone. Also great, great chat
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Amyloo.... I love that book!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not all rosy. "You can get so confused that you'll start in to race down long wiggled roads at a break-necking pace and grind on for miles cross weirdish wild space, headed, I fear, toward a most useless place. The Waiting Place..."
- Amyloo
Kind of LOL about Robert trying to work himself up against quiet, steadfast Kevin. Much easier for things to escalate when Robert goes against Danny Sullivan, or back in the day with Jason Calacanis.
- Laura Norvig
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Why did Facebook go public? They couldn't figure out the privacy settings either.
- clive boulton
That may be the funniest joke all day
- Francine Hardaway
Hanging out, waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
Hanging out, waiting for the live feed. Haha. Steve must be watching the closing reports on the Facebook IPO.
- Brad Acker
I have a strong feeling we're gonna hear a lot of FACEBOOK today ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
almost ready to rumble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There's not much to say about it — other than it's overhyped, not worth the price currently. In the long run, it might be a big winner; but when you have so many investors willing to buy stock in a company that has not really figured out how to make money or is still experimenting and has a CEO who just spent $1 billion on a company without revenues, it is still a BIG RISK at the...
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- Brad Acker
I put in an order for 100 shares at 39 and it was never filled. Must have been too busy with big shareholders. I wanted to see where it would go.
- Francine Hardaway
Almost ready! On in 10,9,8...
- Robert Scoble
Yay, voices, video connection made!!!
- Brad Acker
John, are you cold?
- Brad Acker
Google chart.
- Brad Acker
The big story is the systems failure of NASDAQ.
- Jerry Schuman
The medium truly is the message
- Stephen Pickering
New Flipboard update with Soundcloud is awesome!
- Nir Ben Yona
There's always Mercedes to BMW.
- Alex de Soto
Good to see Kevin at #pii2012.
- clive boulton
What about audio on Flipboard Robert? Sorry Ben. Typed too slow. You beat me to it.
- Alex de Soto
Ask Samsung about the 10 billion dollar market nosedive after they got tossed as a supplier
- Jerry Schuman
The problem is these two year contracts
- Stephen Pickering
do you know how many 12 year olds have iPhones? Im not sure Apple is a luxury brand anymore.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nokia is done.. The moment you start dipping into your cash.. the fat lady starts singing. Actually in Nokia's case she might yoddle
- Jerry Schuman
Google+ seems done.
- clive boulton
thank my point John. Everyone has an iphone now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That's one of the keys. in Mobile Apple isn't more expensive
- Stephen Pickering
BB now selling 'em for $50
- Jerome Hughes
I haven't got an iPhone
- Kevin Marks
Cliveb, I don't think Google+ is done. My friends are just coming on
- Francine Hardaway
Because of this two year thing, I still have a crappy 4, well it's not crappy, but I want a new iPhone every year
- Stephen Pickering
NPR on Flipboard is gorgeous.
- Alex de Soto
Flipscam
- Stephen Pickering
Maybe The Beatles can go on Flipboard to excite Stephen.
- Alex de Soto
Beatles on Soundcloud now
- Kevin Marks
hmmm Pintrest.... add it to flipboard... :)
- Orville Chomer
Pinterest replaces browsing through glossy magazines
- Kevin Marks
plant
- Jerome Hughes
No I'm not the plant. :)
- Alex de Soto
Kevin, I like Fab better. You can also buy
- Francine Hardaway
But Soundcloud isn't unlimited
- Stephen Pickering
It does play in the background on Flipboard and you can continue to explore other stories.
- Alex de Soto
Francine, good. My sense Google+ needs more of a sign-on / sign-out UX to reinforce trust and sharing. #chi2011
- clive boulton
Let's talk about whether the iPhone 5 screen needs to be bigger
- Stephen Pickering
We have beautiful walled gardens in my gated community.
- Ankush Narula
Facebook buys Karma app http://bit.ly/J3iIfc
- Nir Ben Yona
ask Steve to show you his glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
#chi2011: Talking in Circles: Selective Sharing in Google+
- clive boulton
Facebook should buy Kickstarter
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have a fenced garden, you can see it over my shoulder. It is next to a park though.
- Kevin Marks
The big story is the ridiculous multiples on Facebook stock and the bad timing of the IPO.
- Steven E. Streight
Facebook can't buy anything. It needs money for privacy lawsuits. Like that $15 billion one.
- Steven E. Streight
you could do something called Encouragement? ... encourage the person having the bad day of course.
- Orville Chomer
how many privacy lawyers FB has?
- clive boulton
Facebook Hockey Stick curve: http://pinterest.com/pin...
- Kevin Marks
couldn't agree more with Robert about the birthday crap on Facebook
- Brad Acker
Salesforce crappy financials?
- Jerry Schuman
soundboard is interesting..thanks Robert
- Jim Posner
just kidding... bad quarter for a lot of companies
- Jerry Schuman
No problem here
- Francine Hardaway
hmm.. Karma app not in my appstore... probably US only, or limited countries, unsure...
- Jose P Isern Comas
Mining privacy's the new black gold. And why EnSW is not FB.
- clive boulton
Facebook just bought another company, Karma
- Kashif Khan
sorry I didnt catch that Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think Gabe is balancing his laptop on his knees
- Tina Chase Gillmor
he's literal like that
- Kevin Marks
I find Techmeme stories on Flipboard! ;) Wonder how much traffic they get from them.
- Alex de Soto
Does TM link to Facebook stuff?
- Jim Posner
I saw an app that's kind of like 'encouragement' this week: http://taptank.com
- Kevin Marks
The Bing + Facebook connection will also be interesting to watch. I've been trying the new social search on Bing this week.
- Alex de Soto
And where do people on facebook get their autism links from?
- Todd Hoff
from autism blogs
- Kevin Marks
I'm starting to want a social network that's just a Social Network and a Search Engine that's just a Search Engine
- Stephen Pickering
Alex, has that rolled out to everyone? I didn't see it yesterday
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: By invitation only so far.
- Alex de Soto
Stephen: It would be good to turn on social search only when you want it. When searching for a movie, restaurant, etc.
- Alex de Soto
The Autism List: https://www.facebook.com/lists...
- Robert Scoble
Find Interest Lists here: https://www.facebook.com/addlist...
- Robert Scoble
I would like to see a noise filter on memeorandum...how many of the stories are truly important vs. noise ala Huffington Post...give us filters and upvotes Gabe.
- Jim Posner
and others review the output and tend the configuration tables used by the algorithm
- Jerome Hughes
reddit works well with filters
- Da
http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com/ is a good autism blog
- Kevin Marks
they can zero out pagerank, yes
- Kevin Marks
I like Kevin's bird noise drifting into Gabe's space. Kinda funny cause it's Gabe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
YouTube now promotes videos from my G+ social network first and it has been a disaster. Rarely do I see anything interesting anymore. Content based ranking works best for a lot of things.
- Todd Hoff
the crows were triggering Skype silencing people. the doves are OK
- Kevin Marks
Hacker News is doing a great job...like to see more of that model on Techmeme.
- Jim Posner
Will the Editorial Bots (algorithms, filters, etc.) triumph over people?
- Alex de Soto
Missing: Google search and separate Google+ search. 2 buttons!
- clive boulton
Corona needs to be served icey cold with a lime. Just saying
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://pinterest.com/pin... was what I saw on wednesday
- Kevin Marks
We need a way to use parts of someone else's profile. I'd love to save the time it took Robert to like thousands of brands, yet be selective.
- Murray Macdonald
Does Techmeme have push?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it pushes to twitter
- Kevin Marks
It pushes to Flipboard too and Facebook even!
- Robert Scoble
oooo that's better Gabe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
de-dupe engineers hotter than hadoop engineers...
- clive boulton
ice clinking in glass sound effect?
- Kevin Marks
Steve is drinking from his John Lennon glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sadly not gonna happen with all the silos
- Da
Beats the McDonald's cup Tina!
- Alex de Soto
John Lennon's glasses wouldn't hold much
- Kevin Marks
true Alex. Had time to make the iced tea today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Video with Karma's founder: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Robert Scoble
size of the needle?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
market is ripe for a social/data stream processor that automates what Scoble does manually.
- Jim Posner
that was deeeeep
- Orville Chomer
hadoop social/data stream de-dup and push.
- clive boulton
I thought DataSift had potential but that didn't work out.
- Jim Posner
lots of ppl waiting on new macbook pros
- clive boulton
Airplay doesn't always work. I updated my Apple TV yesterday and now all I get is the audio of the show on my TV
- Francine Hardaway
does Apple TV work outside the US? SIRI doesn't "really" work outside the US
- Murray Macdonald
That was a comment from a "normal" person
- Francine Hardaway
wow the Gang is so subdued on this IPO Friday
- Tina Chase Gillmor
DataSift is more targeted at selecting out particular signals than taking the whole feed and chunking it into signals.
- Todd Hoff
yes
- Kevin Marks
When is Netflix going to stream 3D?..just got a 3D tv and looking for more content from services I am paying for already.
- Jim Posner
if "unlimited data" means way more people use your network than you thought would use it and you have to spend Billions to try to make the network be able to keep up, then unlimited data can be a bad decision. Its not a bad decision for users... but it cost lots of bucks to make the network be able to handle the load.
- Orville Chomer
DataSift mines only Twitter stream?
- clive boulton
the risk of demo failure prevents them from demo'ing airplay at the keynote
- Ankush Narula
I'm not sure about now, but they started with Twitter but have the ability to plug in other streams.
- Todd Hoff
but it unlimited made me so loyal to VZW, now may go to T-mobile
- Da
DataSift is twitter only...cool idea but haven't seen much compelling out of the beta.
- Jim Posner
Will iPhone 5 have to have a bigger screen?
- Stephen Pickering
the HTC One X screen is awesome
- Da
AppleTV sales are fairly viral - I haven't seen an advert for AppleTV yet
- Ankush Narula
i like Apple TV, I have two of them
- Orville Chomer
I haven't got the 1080p appletv yet
- Kevin Marks
I also have a mac mini plugged into the TV
- Kevin Marks
I have the 720 in the bedroom and the 1080 in the living room - they're great - watching GG in living room right now via AirParrot
- Ankush Narula
Wow, I advised Nanosys years ago:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Sony plug...HX929 awesome tv.
- Jim Posner
Is there an ongoing revenue stream for AppleTV beyond the initial device sale?
- Murray Macdonald
1-click iTunes sales/rentals and maybe Netflix and MLB subscription revenue
- Ankush Narula
I have two iPads and a Mac Mini, Kevin, and Apple Tv, and I use all of them with my TVs from time to time
- Francine Hardaway
can't play Modern Warfare on it though, so it's XBox for us
- Da
So I can meaningfully use the device without a subscription, as long as I don't buy premium content?
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin, will privacy be back-fitted into enterprise sharing...#pii
- clive boulton
Murray - yes - you can access content in iTunes on your desktop/laptop - and you can login to existing Netflix/MLB/NBA/NHL accounts and stream that content - and of course use AirPlay from iOS devices
- Ankush Narula
Facebook to acquire the Gillmor Gang.
- Nir Ben Yona
Is the show live only or is it archived anywhere?
- Jim Posner
also youtube, vimeo some others (not amazon)
- Kevin Marks
Wow Steve really using his hands today and I didn't even prompt that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jim, it's archived on Techcrunch.
- Nir Ben Yona
thx
- Jim Posner
also on youtube
- Kevin Marks
and iTunes
- Ankush Narula
Clear that Judge Alsup has had quite enough of David Boies.
- Denise Howell
only seeing 2010 shows on techcrunch
- Jim Posner
anyone have a youtube link?
- Jim Posner
Nir :-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, just a hunch :)
- Nir Ben Yona
judge alsup learned to write enough java code to grip the case..!
- clive boulton
I agree with Scoble. We need to take in relevant info while idle. Only part of my time is infront of a screen. I want contextually relevant data while I drive my car and brush my teeth.
- Murray Macdonald
google glasses
- Da
Carburetors vs Porches: saving time vs spending time.
- clive boulton
Murray... would that require push?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I shouldn't need a new device, just a new app
- Murray Macdonald
iPad are taking off in the enterprise...but device tracking is still an issue from an IT security perspective.
- Jim Posner
Perhaps... It depends on my device and desired content. I should be able to offline content.
- Murray Macdonald
Android apps can run all the time. Let's not be held back by apple limitations.
- Murray Macdonald
Tina, Is there an archive of recent shows?
- Jim Posner
until the OS randomly kills them, Murray
- Kevin Marks
they can get remote notifications too though, even if not running
- Kevin Marks
Sometime Highlight comes up and announces that Steve Gillmor is nearby. but mostly it doesn't... even when he is. Not sure how that works
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IT tracks laptops
- Da
so, why did FB buy Glancee instead of Highlight
- Da
glancee had more tech and was probably cheaper
- Kevin Marks
Sorry I missed this today
- Keith Teare
Highlight not in same league as Instagram?
- Da
being boring is exciting enterprise
- clive boulton
Thanks guys... Always worth watching.
- Murray Macdonald
Great show.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Keith
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook bought Glancee because it lost. Translation it was a deal to hire the engineers.
- Robert Scoble
so Glancee had better engineers
- Da
Hi Tina
- Keith Teare
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Just joined the borg, waiting for the blue pill.
- Robert Scoble
Can you hear me, Tina?
- John Taschek
we can hear you, but you can't hear us, John
- Kevin Marks
Rock on!
- Nir Ben Yona
8 rooting in video
- Kevin Marks
seems like to me, folks in G+ are engaging more than other social networks, more quality discussions
- Da
G+ is good for talking to programmers
- Kevin Marks
I saw John in NY 2 weeks ago, that was nice
- Kevin Marks
Da - interesting that you say that. I think i need to spend some more time on Google +
- Tina Chase Gillmor
just joined in - what is this that Robert is showing?
- Ankush Narula
maybe because it's the early adopters in G+, it's the novelty
- Da
"dickheadery" ?? Is there a webster's definition on this ??
- studentforce
silos, baby
- Da
jt
- Steve Gillmor
auth =/= authenticity
- clive boulton
first I hear about "warmth"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
mind meld
- Jerome Hughes
Arkush: I am showing Bing, Twitter, and Google+.
- Robert Scoble
spending advertiser's patronage
- Jerome Hughes
advertisers'
- Jerome Hughes
What was that sidebar on the search page? was that Bing?
- Ankush Narula
I see John T has added some stuff to his bookshelf
- Tina Chase Gillmor
when it flocks
- Jerome Hughes
Yes, that was Bing.
- Robert Scoble
i think John is in a different location
- studentforce
no faces in #FF comments, but the conversation persists
- Jerome Hughes
hi everyone, just joined, looks like a lively discussion about warmth
- Charlie Isaacs
its still two dimensional and will NEVER replace a face to face meeting
- studentforce
Scoble-Poll®
- Ankush Narula
hey it looks like Robert lost some weight, looking svelte
- Charlie Isaacs
"the lightbulb gets brighter before it burns out ... "
- JohnBorthwick
instead it will lead to face to face later, as discovery leads to engagement
- Jerome Hughes
Charlie: yeah, I'm down a bit from my high. Just got a Fitbit scale so you can see my weight.
- Robert Scoble
I can't see the stream anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Ruh Roh
- Kevin Marks
I can hear it just fine, so will fake it as long as you can see me.
- Robert Scoble
managers
- Jerome Hughes
robert we see stream here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
applause signs, laugh tracks, rim-shots - these are all cues for the braindead
- Ankush Narula
you should too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm not getting one of those Fitbit things, still recovering from my Wii telling me I’m overweight and that I have the agility, balance and body of a 90 year-old
- Charlie Isaacs
will drop you and call u back robert
- Steve Gillmor
http://www.radiolab.org/2008... on laughter
- Kevin Marks
Woody Allen & Tony Roberts in Annie Hall
- Jerome Hughes
laughing is also a way to express nervousness and uncertainty
- Ankush Narula
Steve: I Still can't see the stream.
- Robert Scoble
lol
- JohnBorthwick
laughter isn't a singular behavior. it's nuanced
- Tom Guarriello
True. But some people laugh when they feel embarrassed.
- Nir Ben Yona
nice straightfaced lol, John
- Jerome Hughes
I prefer :-D over LOL
- Ankush Narula
Thanks, that fixed that!
- Robert Scoble
Ok... Kevin is drinking beer, John T. probably iced tea but could be spiked and robert has dropped off to do a shot. I don't know what John B. is drinking today. Any guesses?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My daughter loves minecraft too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
San Pellegrino.
- Nir Ben Yona
could be
- Tina Chase Gillmor
JohnB is drinking Makers Mark and Coke ;-)
- Ankush Narula
beer and tea, I have both
- Kevin Marks
Ankush ... good one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
good enough is good enough
- Jerome Hughes
this is true
- Tina Chase Gillmor
especially as they're misspelled
- Kevin Marks
packets and buffers and bandwidth oh my
- Ankush Narula
multi-tasking's a myth. It's sequential
- Tom Guarriello
Women can multi task, seems harder for men
- Stephen Pickering
women multitask every moment of the day ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I was reading Ondaatje's "The Conversations" with Walter Murch
- Kevin Marks
and he said that he couldn't watch films on TV, but he could on laptops with headphones, as that was immersive
- Kevin Marks
hunter/gatherer evolution
- studentforce
hunter will always be able to muti task way better than a farmer/gatherer
- studentforce
I'm multi-tasking right now. Listening/watching the show, downloading new Adobe apps and typing into FF.
- Alex de Soto
All with a cat on my shoulders!
- Alex de Soto
push notifications serialize realtime so you don't have to multitask - unfortunately ios notification center becoming another inbox for me
- Ankush Narula
Tina herds kittens while multi-tasking
- Charlie Isaacs
many new apps are creating alternative inboxes
- Kevin Marks
Push notifications do remind me of email. Constantly in my face at the office.
- Alex de Soto
"Well, that's like hypnotizing chickens" --Iggy Pop
- Jerome Hughes
i agree that SOME people have issues multi tasking while others cannot function if they are NOT multi tasking
- studentforce
Charlie this is less true these days as I have taken to locking the cats out of the studio because they become so demanding when we're doing the show. On the other hand, I'm always herding cats on the GIllmor gang ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I believe students and people born after 1995 naturally multi task as they have known nothing else
- studentforce
it's not age related
- Kevin Marks
i wish i could do two things at once on the ipad. i get so annoyed when i'm watchin a vid on a web page, and it stops when i go to a new tab to look something up
- Stephen M
I like the sunlight streaming into Borthwick's space
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I was born in 1966 and I've been doing this since I was able to
- Kevin Marks
so I guess what I'm saying is that the ability to multi task is probably a combination of physical (dopamine based whatever) and evolutionary
- studentforce
some people have a hard time accepting multiple capabilities in one person that they have not experienced in one person before
- Jerome Hughes
push notification and the beginner’s mind http://techcrunch.com/2012...
- clive boulton
Steve: did I freeze?
- Robert Scoble
the street has its own uses for...
- Jerome Hughes
rapid task switching != multi-tasking
- Ankush Narula
there is actually a test for this: http://www.multitaskingtests.com/about...
- studentforce
lost Robert again
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Try calling me again.
- Robert Scoble
if it's important enough, it'll keep yur attention
- Da
See, I don't people aren't actually able to multi-task..
- Kevin Costain
i prefer SMS because i can say i responded and the network "ate" the message, when i really just "zoned" out for a few minutes LOL
- Stephen M
is it a zero sum situation ?? The more multitasking the less attention one can pay to a specific subject?
- studentforce
can't do that with a phone call.. have to give undivided attention.
- Stephen M
pattern recognition accounting handled in background by subconcious
- Jerome Hughes
some people can multi-task walking and chew gum at same time
- Da
so have we developed different "modes" now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
could you clarify please.
- Stephen M
@da any "task" that is run on auto-pilot can't count as part of a "multi" task. We are not consciously thinking about walking - that is an automatic process, just as much as seeing where you're walking while you chew that gum.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Have tweets made us more succinct? More to the point? Does Facebook remind us to take photographs? Does Pinterest organize our minds in a visual way?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Intel's 'golden age’ of hybrid PCs more multi-tasking or more push-notification.
- clive boulton
Is social media training us?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
quite - that's what I was saying- your brain is naturally multi-taking, and with practice things become background tasks, and the single narrative is the story a part of our brain curates for us afterwards
- Kevin Marks
or are we training it?
- Jerome Hughes
@da - but - try clearly reading two books at once while walking.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Tweets have caused me to have bad grammar/spelling
- Stephen M
@Kevin - very interesting idea..
- Kevin Costain
I still use Flickr which causes me to take lots of photos
- Stephen M
@Stephen - Computers have made my natural chicken scratch penmanship much worse..
- Kevin Costain
Finally got to enough screens to comment on Steve's mention of track today. Out me in hysterics on Devils Slide
- Francine Hardaway
same here! it started in the AIM/MSN messenger era..
- Stephen M
Did I just hear John T. talk about a coke habit?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://pinterest.com/pin... was the Ad people
- Kevin Marks
haha
- Stephen M
I'm watching this show on my TV via AirParrot
- Ankush Narula
BTW, next version of OS X will include this functionality
- Ankush Narula
very interesting
- Stephen M
Robert and Tina-Steve! Miramar on Saturday at 530 for a cocktail? I will be meeting Half Moon Bay geeks.
- Francine Hardaway
I'm watching this show on my TV via Roku :)
- Stephen M
I watched most of it on my IPhone
- Francine Hardaway
does Robert have ADHD? ;)
- Stephen M
Robert doesn't need push notifications - he has everything visible on the 25 screens around him at all times!
- Ankush Narula
Yet, but when Robert's mobile, not at home, then push becomes important
- Stephen Pickering
does my neighbour have leftover cinco de mayo fireworks
- Kevin Marks
True - particularly so we all know if he's walking vs running vs at Gold Club
- Ankush Narula
resistance is feudal?
- Kevin Marks
push a button, get a pellet
- Jerome Hughes
And with the Google Glasses Robert will see a recursive universe of information.
- Alex de Soto
I'm always that person who has to go behind something to plug something in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert have you done video chat via the Kinect? i set my parents and siblings up and they love it
- Stephen M
rummaging through the dust bunnies
- Kevin Marks
So push notifications will be the next intrusive media.
- Alex de Soto
I think there are many more ways for people to "tap you on the shoulder" now... and from anywhere
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Feed my dragon? That's a euphemism for sure
- Ankush Narula
Push notifications drive me nuts.
- Francine Hardaway
my grandmother got the biggest smile when i showed her how to say "xbox chat" or whatever it is..and they got to see their grand child on the big screen..
- Stephen M
Grandkids are always the killer app
- Kevin Marks
Fighting some idiot motorcycle without a muffler. Please be quiet!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
$99 xbox is the best thing for grand parents.
- Stephen M
He's probably right lol
- Francine Hardaway
pain points are opportunities
- Jerome Hughes
rimshot
- Ankush Narula
This is a warm conversation
- Francine Hardaway
Show Title!
- Stephen M
it's very warm here in San Jose
- Kevin Marks
The sun is shining in NYC - it's warm here as well
- Ankush Narula
Woudln't it be a different show without Skype as well?
- Stephen M
"Luke Warm" might be a good show title
- Ankush Narula
Great show.
- Francine Hardaway
anyone know if Facebook will add group video to their Video chat service?
- Stephen M
yes def!
- Stephen M
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I'm waiting for the famous call? I wonder what we'll talk about today? Facebook IPO? Yahoo CEO? Samsung Galaxy SIII?
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert - do you have the Galaxy? What's the service behind it?
- John Taschek
Nope, not yet. It was just announced and they didn't give me a test version yet.
- Robert Scoble
http://www.techmeme.com/120503... has the Galaxy SIII info.
- Robert Scoble
Seems over-speced and over-sized. Makes the Dell Streak seem way ahead of its time.
- John Taschek
You know my Cherry Coke Zero is being zeroed-out as I wait... :)
- John Taschek
over-specced? that's a thing?
- Kevin Marks
we're beating a couple of tech glitches back... but we're winning. Stand-by please
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina: we're standing by. :-)
- Robert Scoble
starting our link-up calls. sorry for delay
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what did I miss last week?
- Kevin Marks
I missed last week too.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah - like this:...
more...
- John Taschek
Kevin...we saved the world last week. other than that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I hear the coffee shops are being closed to tourists in Amsterdam.
- John Taschek
Howdy!
- Nir Ben Yona
robert Scoble... you're being paged
- Tina Chase Gillmor
page fault
- Charlie Isaacs
hi everyone
- Charlie Isaacs
i hear lovely tina
- Charlie Isaacs
John doing his Steve Martin imitation
- Charlie Isaacs
cue John on banjo
- Jerome Hughes
Be on air shortly.
- Robert Scoble
I also have a dinosaur.
- John Taschek
oooooh he's a rambling man
- Charlie Isaacs
little tech annoyances today folks. but all will be well with the world momentarily
- Tina Chase Gillmor
testing testing 123
- clive boulton
I don't see anything!
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Aaaah
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
We are on now.
- Robert Scoble
I don't hear an echo and I am the customer:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
It's a list
- Stephen Pickering
hearing FB's 30+ demographic sick to the teeth of spam app invites (regardless permissions)
- clive boulton
You can have friends or acquaintances on FB
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Robert confirms...wake up Zuck
- clive boulton
oh rats I forgot Robert's Birthday again
- Charlie Isaacs
deletes Facebook account
- Jerome Hughes
Hey Robert, what are your thoughts on the Jack Welch blowup today? - http://www.facebook.com/XXinTec... Is this something your likely to comment on in this afternoons chat? #gillmorgang
- dean collins
RIP - like!
- clive boulton
except the dislike button
- Jerome Hughes
Dean: funny, Sheryl Sandberg said much the same thing, except she framed it in nicer language.
- Robert Scoble
Dean: on the other hand, look at Rashmi, who just sold SlideShare. She just had twins. That's what we should focus on.
- Robert Scoble
UK patent act, interesting
- clive boulton
This intention thing seems to play right into Zaarly, right Robert?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: yes!
- Robert Scoble
Amazon ate the retail world whole
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Doc talking on our SocialMRP startup - yay.
- clive boulton
retailers need to push value to the customer during the scan process
- Charlie Isaacs
B&N deal was MS way to get into eTextbooks in a big way. That is their primary reason for the purchase
- studentforce
free wifi in mcdonalds :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Content and Conduit should be separate, not by law, but from a business perspective, but it seems all these companies are trying to be both
- Stephen Pickering
Social overload!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yeah, and if Robert's screens are filled up, then that's really a lot of stuff
- Dale Lature
howmany screens was that? 6?
- Dale Lature
he's going to break?
- Kevin Marks
I feel like Robert. Can't fit another thing and can't use another thing
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Robert Scoble is at the breaking point! That's a quote
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Saturation overload matches Kevin's consolidation and M&A happenings
- clive boulton
eh?
- Kevin Marks
The problem is that these hits like OMGPop don't seem to last
- Stephen Pickering
Phoenix?
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Right. Been saying this for six months. Incubator bubble
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
I wish tech startups focused on innovation in health care, agriculture and education but I guess there's no money in it.
- Alex de Soto
everyone one's a tech user, everyone's addicted, everyone is "invested", and everyone would like a piece of the pie
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They aren't starting companies. They are developing products
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
so does that mean the real opportunities lie in the ENTERPRISE ???
- studentforce
Alex, my guess is because those industries are so regulated and protected that fresh capital doesn't want to enter
- Stephen Pickering
Taschek and Scoble both product placed drinks
- Dale Lature
Skype Sulk?
- Kevin Marks
@Alex we working on agriculture from top down after failing to get traction bottom up
- clive boulton
Right Steve. My Klout score has been dropping because I am engaged elsewhere for a while
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Yes steve
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Stephen: Where there's a will, there's a way. Unfortunately these are less glamorous to work in.
- Alex de Soto
top down, Charlie in McD's, case in point.
- clive boulton
Francine, I find the more I engage the more my Klout score decreases. I say stop talking or ignore Klout ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Klout says I'm influential about 'vegetable'
- Kevin Marks
I need Steve to use his Beatles glasses. If only we were more orgnized
- Tina Chase Gillmor
whatever
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The register as an organ donor on Facebook was interesting. Anybody do that?
- Alex de Soto
klouchebag scores me a 75 "mostly noise"
- Jerome Hughes
@studentforce - yes. using 'web 2.0' biz dev architecture
- clive boulton
Klout says I'm influential about Scobleizer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think I have some funky 60 glasses on my effects ..
- John Taschek
can it tell him sitting from it being left on the table?
- Kevin Marks
the PlaceMe app sends me Push Notifications like "You're Boring" "You're a Nerd" "Get a Life"
- Charlie Isaacs
Tina, that's the first accurate thing I've heard about Klout lately.
- Robert Scoble
I turned off Placeme push notifications. Battery hog
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
On APIs and Copyright (unintended consequences) http://redmonk.com/sogrady...
- clive boulton
Francine good to know. Didn't try it. Now don't have to
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Placeme inside a strip club
- Stephen Pickering
So in other words nothing's changed
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: in the future you will share even that. Why? Because the system will bring you better strip club experiences if you are really into that.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: hahahahahhahaah
- Stephen Pickering
Privacy is NOT the big issue of this generation. Addiction is. Stephen showed exactly why. Who cares if I want to go to a strip club? But now that you are bringing me to the best ones I'm totally addicted to the system.
- Robert Scoble
WE can have a Boston API party !
- studentforce
Such irony, you can buy the King James Bible on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/The-Bib...
- Charlie Isaacs
We're already seeing the first precursors to the problems we're going to have with addiction (texting while driving, marriages breaking up, etc).
- Robert Scoble
ONLY on Amazon ??
- studentforce
Someone patent the acai berry spam.
- clive boulton
strip clubs while driving?
- Kevin Marks
Fine let's talk about strip clubs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Who owns the strip club patents?
- Alex de Soto
me too
- studentforce
I received four of them; three from salesforce employees
- studentforce
PC and Microsoft Windows 8 are IRRELEVANT that is why. Who cares if a PC is corrupt. Noone uses them anymore. Post PC world
- studentforce
You clicked on the url - THIS IS A PHISHING PAGE
- dean collins
See, when I get one of those crazy DMs I don't know whether to block them because I know it may be a virus
- Stephen Pickering
its not a virus at all its a phishing page
- dean collins
Steve granted tweet permissions to a rogue twitter app.
- clive boulton
get 5-10 of those "Someone's saying… " weekly from among 7k followers
- Jerome Hughes
it IS NOT A HACK - YOU CLICKED ON A LINK that WAS NOT TWITTER
- dean collins
Kevin is indeed melting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HE EXPLICITLY FILLED IT IN GUARENTEED - i get these all the time because i run 20+ twitter accounts
- dean collins
Could be a hack of a service with O Auth-connection to your Twitter-account?
- Johannes Siemers
sorry, I had to go away for a minute...I assume you are talking about oauth hacks? there are sites w/info on these types of exploits: http://oauth.net/advisor...
- Charlie Isaacs
here's the explanation I send out to those who send me those that haven't yet said "I was hacked and it's now resolved." …
- Jerome Hughes
got a spammy DM, in case not yet resolved… password change or app access revoke info… http://ow.ly/6vqLd
- Jerome Hughes
oh great, now I am being called typhoid charlie, thanks for that
- Charlie Isaacs
failed twitter app startups sell their permissions to tweet to ad-networks (steve got bit)
- clive boulton
Knowledge is power, with great power comes responsibility .. Charlie. :)
- John Taschek
Anyone seen Mike Arrington's latest title.. http://www.linkedin.com/in... :)
- Jose P Isern Comas
a trillion trillion quantum fluxes, one will create a Universe
- Stephen Pickering
eg check out this url as an example of what the page looks like - http://twititre.com/ilogin... - lol dont fill in your username or password otherwise your account will start sending out these fake DM's continuing the circle.
- dean collins
http://marketingland.com/the-tec... Saw this today .... funny! New investment Metric System ... gram (as in Instagram)
- studentforce
Arrington always irreverent.
- clive boulton
The bubble is not because of the industry but rather because there is so much liquidity sloshing around due to Central Bank stimulation
- Stephen Pickering
sounds like the financial analysts who say salesforce is way too high on a p/e basis. They don't understand the subscription economy
- studentforce
advertising is a bubble
- Kevin Marks
gee, thanks John, I guess :)
- Charlie Isaacs
But as Oligvy says, the first time you see an ad, the 10th time you see it, you're writing a check
- Stephen Pickering
Advertising revenue surpassed financial markets in NYC this year
- studentforce
I mean the first time you see it you curse, the tenth time, your buying it
- Stephen Pickering
thank god for advertising .... paying for my son's apartment in NYC !!!!!!
- studentforce
lol sorry for the delayed response but here is the screenshot of the twitter phishing page - http://screencast.com/t...
- dean collins
Andreesen: there is a bubble: http://thoughtbasket.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Steve had his voice muted. he didn't know it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Andreesen - There is NO bubble: http://thoughtbasket.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Sorry Andreessen (my typo)...
- John Taschek
But since ads suck on Smartphones, the Facebook app on Smartphones also sucks
- Stephen Pickering
What is Doc's vision of Advertising or Marketing?
- Stephen Pickering
shows that word of mouth is way more powerful than ANY advertising campaign.
- studentforce
becomes you
- studentforce
The Kids are Allright
- Stephen Pickering
You don't always know what you "want." But if you catch some ads, you get what you need.
- Alex de Soto
One thing I've noticed, especially being an American, what a relief to watch TV shows on Netflix ad free! never in my life have I had this wonderful experience!
- Stephen Pickering
that's the reason I hate BBc America
- Kevin Marks
Isn't the difference kids dont care about privacy because they use it to discover trust. (thus avoid bad actors)
- clive boulton
winchester this
- Jerome Hughes
"you spend hours downloading apps..." - how tone deaf can a company be?
- Jerome Hughes
Doc: " Don't lie to your wrist, Robert"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it can alert Scoble's wife when he's excited in a strip club?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yes. And my wife will have to deal with it.
- Robert Scoble
or perhaps more importantly, when he's not
- Jerome Hughes
So when everything becomes transparent, then the Super Ego won't have so much power over us in enforcing complexes
- Stephen Pickering
he's being censored by the excitement detector
- Kevin Marks
Skype always craps out at an hour
- Stephen Pickering
Church, Strip Clubs,
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble's wife: oh, no worries, Robert is riding on the Startup Bus again.
- Charlie Isaacs
I met a chap who was starting a Church of Video Games
- Kevin Marks
So the subjective adventure overrides the objective ego conflict
- Stephen Pickering
"Batin'!" in Idiocracy
- Jerome Hughes
Charlie: maybe my wife likes strip clubs too and that's why she married me.
- Robert Scoble
Bad Sinatra
- Jerome Hughes
That was a hilarious conversation:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Robert, I'm not going there, literally and figuratively
- Charlie Isaacs
The purpose of life is to experience a subjective adventure rather than an objective achievement.
- Stephen Pickering
Bad Sinatra indeed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
rereading Neuromancer
- Jerome Hughes
if anyone want a Bad Sinatra pin,,, let me know
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm totally addicted to this stuff, I'm going to try a la Kevin to spend a day without any of this stuff
- Stephen Pickering
App for acai berry diet in strip clubs coming soon!
- clive boulton
Facebook is the one brand that may make Apple nervous? Or have the power to?
- Stephen Pickering
if you can't see a holodeck, how do you know you aren't in one?
- Kevin Marks
There is a serious physics theory that life is indeed a hologram already
- Stephen Pickering
so I wanna hear your thoughts on this - is it good or bad for society?
- studentforce
Good if we control it instead of it controlling us, in other words improving our lives, not making us slaves
- Stephen Pickering
great chat and Gillmor Gang today, really fun, got to run... thanks
- Charlie Isaacs
but isn't the purpose of all this tech to 'improve' our lives? Is this a case of the road to hell and good intentions ??
- studentforce
The weird freaky line. Your off phone still broadcasts intent.
- clive boulton
reminded of need for the less fortunate to learn to dictate, now that they can have virtual butlers
- Jerome Hughes
I have an ad from SAP in facebook #targetingfail
- Kevin Marks
Well, it's like Star Wars, are we going to control the system or be slaves to it? That's the jist of star wars
- Stephen Pickering
and why do we have to expend the energy to 'CONTROL'
- studentforce
Yeah, I chose the wrong word, control isn't the right conotation
- Stephen Pickering
Doc's book http://www.amazon.com/The-Int...
- John Taschek
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
thanks everyone! Fun show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Chat room was on fire! (cool)
- clive boulton
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Hi, waiting for the famous call. What will the theme be today? Nokia? Google? Instagram? Real time ambient information? Firebase and Fluidinfo? The freaky line?
- Robert Scoble
hello there, also awaiting the call
- Kevin Marks
loading up the lineup now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cool, looking forward to it.
- Robert Scoble
The Filters were easy
- Stephen Pickering
It's emotional.
- Kevin Marks
Easy, fun, and it worked, plus attractive interface
- Stephen Pickering
http://www.wired.com/epicent... was a good piece
- Kevin Marks
I'd be interested in hearing Roberts thoughts on the Google Glasses...didn't he see them first hand?
- Jim Posner
Plus Facebook hasn't worked out how to monetize mobile, right?
- Stephen Pickering
and the masterly Paul Ford piece: http://nymag.com/daily...
- Kevin Marks
and a marxist analysis: http://interconnected.org/home...
- Kevin Marks
try this, robert: http://gramgrab.com/
- Kevin Marks
So how do they monetize and or facebook monetize its app?
- Stephen Pickering
problem with Dan's audio
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Makes Facebook relevant on iOS
- Jim Posner
again, moe? they already tried once
- Kevin Marks
FB monitize by increased traffic, eyeballs
- Da
Scoblizer's granular immutable integration play priceless
- clive boulton
cool word
- Jim Posner
Plus with Instagram 90% of the app is content. Google+ needs to learn from that.
- Stephen Pickering
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Phatic_expression
- Jim Posner
the G+ redesign makes the pictures bigger
- Kevin Marks
Robert- Will Google Glasses be a game changer?
- Jim Posner
jetpac
- Kevin Marks
Is it a picture sharing app?
- Jim Posner
Robert for G+ chief phatic officer.
- clive boulton
I lost picture, want to call me back?
- Kevin Marks
kevin send video pls
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it won't let me - can you call back
- Kevin Marks
tipping point when photo sharing turns into big data signals
- clive boulton
can you send vidoe tina?
- Kevin Marks
I am surprised Google hasn't done a better job of contextualizing social networks
- Jim Posner
pete warden is the chap behind jetpac http://petewarden.typepad.com/
- Kevin Marks
Tips for fixing your Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RobertS...
- Robert Scoble
why is robert having sex in a church?
- Kevin Marks
if we're having sex?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Recommend the best escort service? :-)
- Stephen Pickering
you just vanished
- Kevin Marks
should I try the Verizon 4G again?
- Kevin Marks
Is OpenStack starting to gain traction Robert?
- Jim Posner
sounds a bit like couchdb
- Kevin Marks
The content has been deprecated, bad, although photos have become bigger. Looks awful on a big screen Mac.
- Stephen Pickering
Firebase http://www.firebase.com/ sounds interesting
- Jim Posner
Jim: yes. OpenStack is going to have a huge week next week.
- Robert Scoble
I saw that IBM just joined...which was good to hear
- Jim Posner
PlaceMe is cool but it makes errors
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
As for the new UI, I like it
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
I'm with you, Robert. Some of the new tools are freaky. But cool.
- Thomas Rector
Can you view hangouts if you are not participating?
- Jim Posner
I want Gillmor Gang as a hangout:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Google+ will get there, still haven't noticed any top draw social scientists contextualizing.
- clive boulton
Steve is resistant to everything
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Jim, last time I tried it you can't view an in-progress Hangout, if they cap out at 10, you can't view the Hangout in progress.
- Charlie Isaacs
if it records the hangout, does it record the chat too?
- Kevin Marks
twitter's innovation seems to have plateaued
- Jim Posner
jim - you can if i bring it in as a feed, like I bring in one person
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Capitalism is like Quantum Mechanics, messy details, but produces a lot of neat things.
- Stephen Pickering
charlie - you can through the youtube integration, but you need to be in the beta for that - what they used for the Obama hangout
- Kevin Marks
isn't IMAP a cloud-based format?
- Kevin Marks
gray, the studio cat, is trying desperately to open the door from the outside. It is DEADBOLTED GRAY!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
whoever said G+ is going after Twitter, hazard a guess, spot on
- clive boulton
Why are we even talking about Microsoft
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft resonates on saving time (not spending time) unsocial mind share.
- clive boulton
"The case against Apple will be more difficult to prove given that Apple was a new competitive entrant into that market and was trying to find a way to compete with a dominant market player, Amazon," - Lucas
- Charlie Isaacs
steve keeps killing my double shot when he looks down. Bah1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Bezo defends Amazon approach: http://www.geekwire.com/2012...
- clive boulton
Tina, the double shot I like is espresso
- Charlie Isaacs
when Steve says Office is dead, take a double shot?
- Kevin Marks
I keep forgetting to bring a bottle into the studio
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is Fair Trade fair? Do we care?
- Frank Paynter
I might get much more creative if I was drinkin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sony moved to a new pricing model..similar to Apple's.
- Jim Posner
take another shot - he said it again :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie that's a good idea , too!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
<unbreakable> Ellison buys RIM - after securing Android rights thru settlement </unbreakable>
- clive boulton
usually we can get drunk on Beatles references
- Tina Chase Gillmor
every beatles reference, take a tab
- Kevin Marks
twitter is the new AP feed isn't it?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Peter Thiels cs183 not the real http://startuppity.tumblr.com/
- clive boulton
Tina: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Every Dylan reference, shot of whiskey.
- Denise Howell
fu money - ha ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not crazy about the Google play/games placement on my browser
- Jim Posner
I need to get me some of that fu money, my wife keeps spending it :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
we need a GG shot spreadsheet... cheatsheet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
let's not forget Firesign refs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
was that the new database robert was talking about? Firesign?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin maybe but not the firesign I was thinking of
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google+ is not an offensive against Facebook or Twitter. It's a defensive move, to unify their scattered product line. Only after they unify will they be able to compete with either Facebook OR Twitter.
- Kevin Bryan
Kevin's right, it's for google to improve the ways it organises the world's information
- Kevin Marks
Lets talk about Nokia and RIM melting down next week. Amazing. And where does that put MS?
- Thomas Rector
and Sony
- Kevin Marks
Re. Facebook... this cracked me up: http://theoatmeal.com/comics...
- Frank Paynter
Friendfeed had the potential to truly integrate social networks but that seems to have stalled.
- Jim Posner
Talk to Tina's hand. :)
- Denise Howell
had a great chat with Andy Baio about selling companies last night on tummelvision http://tummelvision.tv/2012...
- Kevin Marks
frank I laughed out loud last night when I read that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jim: FriendFeed is dead.
- Robert Scoble
Nice show, as always, guys. Robert...you always amaze me with how connected you are to EVERYTHING!
- Thomas Rector
Robert do you think there will be a similar service that works?
- Jim Posner
for more and more people, it's an Android phone and an Windows laptop. Slight growth in PC worldwide recently http://www.techspot.com/news...
- Da
I would like to see all my social networks aggregated in a meaningful way.
- Jim Posner
thanks to everyone LOVE the chat
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what's aggregated in a meaningful way, automatically integrated, but with granular privacy controls...
- clive boulton
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Patents! luv em / hate em
- clive boulton
I'm here, waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
Live now! Lots of geeky fun ahead.
- Robert Scoble
and Robert's wearing a beard
- Jerome Hughes
trying to avoid feelling little shocks
- clive boulton
sergey gave him the beard, not the glasses
- Kevin Marks
ha ha
- clive boulton
Is it technologically possible to capture smells digitally?
- Stephen Pickering
growing sergey disguise
- clive boulton
I mean in theory
- Stephen Pickering
not easily, stephen, smells are complex molecules in your nose. you'd need a list of molecules found
- Kevin Marks
Sergey's beard is...?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Kevin
- Stephen Pickering
Crap, my diet coke is not. It's regular Coke. Can't drink it. Pls Help!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
skull guns are so de classe
- Jerome Hughes
he needs a pair of Sights™
- Kevin Marks
rubbing shoulders with billionaires. The great Silicon Valley past time
- Tina Chase Gillmor
reco Being Elmo
- Jerome Hughes
Once the cars drive themselves, the glasses will be cool to wear.
- Alex de Soto
being John Malkovich glasses?
- Kevin Marks
stage right, even
- Jerome Hughes
mostly he drives
- Jerome Hughes
an aggregation of power systems
- Jerome Hughes
will other cars crash into gCars?
- Jerome Hughes
If they're about to crash they'll warn you on the Googles.
- Alex de Soto
will gang members crash into gang members?
- Jerome Hughes
how did I do that. Corss fade weirdness
- Tina Chase Gillmor
live multiple exposure!
- Jerome Hughes
someone make Steve use his hands please!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
talk backwards… http://www.youtube.com/watch... (for later)
- Jerome Hughes
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were/are duopolies, but of course "Crony" duopolies
- Stephen Pickering
Jerome: if other cars threaten to crash into a Google car it will try to take evasive action. If it can't, it could smartly fire off airbags to better protect humans inside.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: yes, and the liability determinations will be interesting
- Jerome Hughes
it fires off airbags at the other cars
- Kevin Marks
It's like Duck, Duck Goose
- Tina Chase Gillmor
aol was popular
- Jerome Hughes
Duck Duck Paté
- Kevin Marks
Jerome: it will have video and 3D data about what happened so exact fault will be easy to prove when someone hits a Google Car.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: that has already happened with handlebar-top GPS data disproving bs story from driver, dropped by insurance co
- Jerome Hughes
The Mac Virus? Is that a real issue or just a headline?
- Stephen Pickering
http://duckduckgo.com/ Duck Duck Go.
- Robert Scoble
glasses patents, who has em
- clive boulton
Let's hear from the neighbor, Danny.
- Kevin Bryan
Danny's peripheral vision not so good with those Googles.
- Alex de Soto
We want to be deserving of great love, like Apple
- Zato Gibson
How about MS paying app developers to beef up their app catalogue?
- Alex de Soto
haven't seen MSFT giving away free dev phones. just the emulator tools
- clive boulton
Apple's going to have to come out with a bigger screen iPhone. They're gonna need two SKUs
- Stephen Pickering
the eye of Robert
- Jerome Hughes
hmm, thinking we're gonna see hacked glasses very soon
- clive boulton
Ricotta pie!
- Alex de Soto
combine kinect gestures with the glasses
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin's mouth is not moving
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They already did with Steven Van Zandt, and it's lame
- Stephen Pickering
http://duckduckgo.com/ quacks no crap
- clive boulton
Where's all the coke?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I thought you wanted diet
- Kevin Marks
87 current / 763 total views
- Jerome Hughes
welllll....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ashton
- Stephen Pickering
yahoo trained so many engineers for others
- clive boulton
Scoble said Cocaine like 20 times. New record for this show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
many also hate SJ, perhaps he'll be able to create a convincing portrayal
- Jerome Hughes
Cocaine beats Scoble - http://www.googlefight.com/index...
- John Taschek
genius
- Jerome Hughes
silence is golden, and here's your mark!
- Jerome Hughes
someone patent the gillmor gang
- clive boulton
Moe... Steve don't fly that way
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Viacom vs YouTube
- Zato Gibson
violation of ToS
- Jerome Hughes
Is Yahoo! going to win its patent lawsuit against Facebook?
- Kevin Bryan
And Pinterest managed to become #3 or something among social networks.
- Alex de Soto
in the past the 3 major networks made for a "shared experience"
- Jerome Hughes
Facebook counter sued Yahoo same day Chris Cheah granted patent http://1.usa.gov/HItpFf
- clive boulton
Good Sinatra
- Jerome Hughes
Steve accuses Danny of pulling sun tan lotion out of his ass.Oh my god
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Really we need Apple and Google to work together. Will we see a detente?
- Stephen Pickering
What's Steve's problem. There are matzah balls in his near future. usually that makes him happy ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google is all about giving nerds what they want. That's their main strategy.
- Zato Gibson
nice, teleport to ipad
- Jerome Hughes
Is it an app? Airdisplay?
- Stephen Pickering
(jobsworth) Augmented reality seen from plane seat http://pic.twitter.com/aLEYB3K...
- clive boulton
it opens an "analog hole" of a new type
- Jerome Hughes
Steve's happy again! Yay! :)
- Kevin Bryan
http://avatron.com/apps... is the Air Display.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
heh
- Robert Scoble
thanks John
- Jerome Hughes
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Hi Tina. I'm glad to see ya.
- Aron Michalski
Hi Aron
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Happy Friday, everybody!
- Jerome Hughes
paging Robert Scoble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Getting hooked up!
- Robert Scoble
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
It's the Joyce section of the FST...
- Aron Michalski
Cool, the guy who hired me at Rackspace, Rob La Gesse, is on today. We're still having lots of audio troubles, please stand by.
- Robert Scoble
Great to see a NGL-er on the Gang. Makes us proud...sniff sniff.
- Aron Michalski
Hey Kids.... @kr8tr, Scoble SG etc etc
- Hugh MacLeod
Actually Skype works better on Windows :-)
- Stephen Pickering
It's a floor wax and a desert topping - http://www.nbc.com/saturda... - or a tablet, a refrigerator, and a PC.
- John Taschek
hey Hugh!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We need Jack from 30 Rock on for those truly multi function devices.
- Aron Michalski
Nice to see my "We need to talk" print hanging behind Scoble.
- Hugh MacLeod
'@scobleizer on Taptera - As iPads gain more work adoption, startups start up… http://bit.ly/H3r3Ua
- John Taschek
I think the reason Apple is so successful is that they have the best product but also this time around their prices are the same as competitors
- Stephen Pickering
I came to see Rob LaGesse:-) Yay, Newsgang Live
- Francine Hardaway
studentforce looks GREAT on salesforce.touch.com or ... as I refer to it: campus.touch
- studentforce
Hey Kevn... How's JP?
- Hugh MacLeod
not only for iPad ... html5
- studentforce
Scoble wants your data...braaaaaains...
- Aron Michalski
Scoble- I'm looking with great interest at the Galaxy Note 10.1.
- Hugh MacLeod
3M in the first weekend.
- Nir Ben Yona
Android will have a solid offering thanks to the size of Android user base. Rim and Nokia are toast.
- Aron Michalski
Note to RIM: It's the apps, Stupid.
- Hugh MacLeod
Interesting fact: Google generates four times more revenue from iPhone than Android http://bit.ly/HlKiGF
- Nir Ben Yona
Kevin's muted - I think on purpose.
- John Taschek
He's thinking. Debate skills are in full play.
- John Taschek
What happened to JP, Hugh?
- Francine Hardaway
schools are handing out iPads to students as they arrive as freshmen (Seton Hill University; Albeline Christian University, etc.) ...... http://chronicle.com/blogs...
- studentforce
Francine... JP is fine, when I saw him at SXSW.
- Hugh MacLeod
I have Paper on my iPad. It's phenomenal. Even I can illustrated using it
- Francine Hardaway
Scoble just justified why Rackspace pays him the big bucks.
- Hugh MacLeod
(Apple in the background chain sawing down the competition...)
- Aron Michalski
Francine, I'm still waiting for a decent stylus for iPad.
- Hugh MacLeod
I have muted. I think I shoudl go indoors
- Kevin Marks
did you try the Samsung Touch Hugh?
- Kevin Marks
I bought a Stylus in a Verizon store that seems okay.
- Francine Hardaway
The only weakness I see with Apple is data, like I can't get my Garageband projects from previous iPad to the new one or to the desktop, that's the place where the cloud has an advantage, but it will take time
- Stephen Pickering
camera and mic access is coming to HTML5
- kosso
My friends at the Audubon apps are moving to HTML5
- Francine Hardaway
The Wacom bamboo stylus seems good to me.
- Hilary Talbot
Launching this summer
- Francine Hardaway
I see you Rob! I'm happy to see you! NGL FTW
- Francine Hardaway
always has to be an alternative
- studentforce
@Hilary Is it? they guys over at The Verge said the Wacom Bamboo sucks.
- Nir Ben Yona
Camera and mic access is defined in HTML5, but no-one has implemented it
- Kevin Marks
Ooh, Kevin changed locations!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Paper app- Meh. I HATE drawing with my index finger.
- Hugh MacLeod
@Nir Ben Yona OK, I was just using it for simple drawing, and it was okay for that
- Hilary Talbot
Have you seen the touch interface for the Samsung TV? You cant stop kids from touching it, might as well make it a giant tablet...
- Aron Michalski
@Hilary OK cool :)
- Nir Ben Yona
It's because Apple charged to much for their PCs back then, whereas back then the Windows PCs were just as powerful, but Apple has their pricing right on the mobile, that's why no one can touch them
- Stephen Pickering
iPad 3 screen will be good for medical images
- Kevin Marks
I have already heard that from doctors, Kevin. They all love the iPad.
- Francine Hardaway
The hospitals, however, don't love the iPad as much as the docs do. SOmething about security:-)
- Francine Hardaway
What I'm seeing these last few years is the erosion of the separation of work and non-work.... tools included.
- Hugh MacLeod
Kinect style control of the screens around the house would be good
- Kevin Marks
Kinect gestures for a Windows tablet would be interesting...
- Aron Michalski
iPad is a big gaming platform already
- Kevin Marks
Yes, Hugh. And that's why BYOD is taking over. If you are always on all the time, you want a device you really like
- Francine Hardaway
Great minds, Kevin... ;-)
- Aron Michalski
having some weird tech problems today. audio fluctuations, bah
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google showed off face recognition api on android already
- Kevin Marks
or switch to Mac
- Jerome Hughes
Francine, and BYOD makes it easier to keep your employees always on.
- Hugh MacLeod
yeah, i would hope to Apple in that case
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If Microsoft stays with days of old methodology, they are screwed, if they go up against iOS they are also likely screwed. IMHO
- Erik Lagerway
I'm so old I can still remember when coffee shops didn't have laptops or Starbucks logos :D
- Hugh MacLeod
@hugh lol
- Susan Beebe
oddly just watched the last show on tc hello from a londoner in, erm, poland
- Scott Jones
I just downloaded the most gorgeous Audubon app. It will soon be in HTML5, so it can have a social component.
- Francine Hardaway
I am SO IN THE MARKET for a new tablet I can actually draw with properly. iPad's styluses are a BIG limitation. Waiting for the Galaxy Note 10.1 to come out.
- Hugh MacLeod
io12 sold out in 20 mins, student tried for academic tix, came up sold out after 30 seconds (same old, same old)
- clive boulton
Apple is gonna screw themselves however with their iBook strategy
- studentforce
Hugh, is the Note 10.1 Android or Samsungs?
- Aron Michalski
What's wrong with iBook?
- Stephen Pickering
Samsung tablet, powered by Android.
- Hugh MacLeod
there are so many OHTER and better distributors of eTextbooks
- studentforce
Apple has been training people on iOS UI for a while. First the phone (training wheels), then the iPad, followed by Lion, new Apple TV, etc. MS has a long way to go but can eventually achieve this if enough businesses buy into Windows 8.
- Alex de Soto
just lost the feed
- Susan Beebe
Oops! I did not do that.
- Alex de Soto
studentforce: how about Inkling?
- Robert Scoble
Me too
- Hugh MacLeod
Well, though I like ibook interface better I buy all my books for Kindle just so it's a little more open
- Stephen Pickering
boinggg
- kosso
WebRTC is needed for HTML5 to really take off in relation to communications at least.
- Erik Lagerway
just lost the entire feed
- studentforce
We will get you back on feed.
- Robert Scoble
feed down guys
- Scott Jones
REFRESH... working now
- Susan Beebe
back
- kosso
got it back after a browser refresh
- Jerome Hughes
The gestures are becoming universal. Look at the Cadillac CUE system for their newer cars.
- Aron Michalski
I'm actually starting to like my Galaxy Note more than my iPhone. Who woulda thunk...
- Hugh MacLeod
Bigger screen + you can use a Wacom stylus on it. #Win.
- Hugh MacLeod
you like the pressure sensitive stylus? is the lag low enough?
- Kevin Marks
it's about the social
- Jerome Hughes
devs like apps, because they're easier to sell and make money for the devs. a lot harder to do with web.
- kosso
Apps and the Web will both grow and co exist
- Stephen Pickering
We like the Cloud for data and the native apps for the interface and performance
- Stephen Pickering
haha :)
- Susan Beebe
I'm so old I can remember when Steve Gilmor used to talk about whether Facebook will become more open or not.
- Hugh MacLeod
The browser is the engine for many apps in the Android. It's actually brilliant as a single engine so that apps are not as bloated. Everything is just a tab to open.
- Aron Michalski
easier to charge for an app via itunes (despite their 30%) than it is to do with an html5 mobile app/site. obviously there are existing subscription/access/paywall models for access to the app, but Apple did make that shockingly easy.
- kosso
apps that integrate with the web
- Jerome Hughes
Designers learning about touch and other "NUI." Check out this book: http://books.google.com/books...
- Alex de Soto
Android is more URL friendly than iOS
- Kevin Marks
yes, why are there no psychic apps? that know exactly what you want to do? ;p
- kosso
Apps are unapoligetically Fisher Price.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin, agreed, it's almost like iOS doesn't want you to go to the web, hehehehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
@Kevin - Right, but your Mom doesn't care :)
- Susan Beebe
Browser already fading away, replaced by Apps UX, and canonical JavaScript (V8 / Node)
- clive boulton
my Mum has an android phone
- Kevin Marks
Apps and the web can compliment each other
- Stephen Pickering
100 million Elvis fans can't be wrong...
- Aron Michalski
gyroscope
- Nir Ben Yona
Thanks Nir.
- Robert Scoble
they're (the computers in our pockets) sort of like the PS/2s that ran only terminal emulators, plus a little word processing and spreadsheets, 'cause there wasn't yet better stuff around
- Jerome Hughes
Browsers is a transitional technology, incubated Apps, UX and high perf JavaScript
- clive boulton
Apps are for creating and consumption and the web is for communicating
- Stephen Pickering
Apps are for electrons and the web is for photons. We need both to work together
- Stephen Pickering
nice try hugh
- Steve Gillmor
Someone will have to develop a Mother App to keep track of all the millions of apps that will be available. The Mother App will probably function pretty much like the Web does today.
- Alex de Soto
Chrome or a chromy browser is the platform that all the Google stuff works off of. I used to be miffed about it until I saw that one single engine was steering the functions through a central point. Saves space and lets the cloud feed the device.
- Aron Michalski
Apps are the factory, the web is distribution
- Stephen Pickering
exactly
- kosso
front end guys turning attention to server side async programing using chromium, v8, node
- clive boulton
Everyone always says HTML5 is right around the corner, but by the time it comes, we will have moved beyond it
- Francine Hardaway
Standards take a long time. 802.11 (WiFi) too almost a decade.
- Rob La Gesse
right on Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HTML5 video with canvas manipulation, doing a lot of pushing of image data-uri per second is all that's really needed.
- kosso
What comes after HTML5 ?
- Susan Beebe
.. once we've got the video/camera access
- kosso
just HTML
- Kevin Marks
Susan, I don't know, but I do know something WILL
- Francine Hardaway
@Kevin - gotcha... @Francine :)
- Susan Beebe
Susan : If Apple have anything to do with it, it'll just be "The New HTML"
- kosso
@moe lol
- Susan Beebe
Exactly, Steve
- Francine Hardaway
wifi is everywhere
- Kevin Marks
and it was on Apple first
- Kevin Marks
starbucks
- clive boulton
hahah
- Susan Beebe
Hotels and airlines
- Kevin Marks
Poor Steve. He has such terrible data problems. #firstworldproblem
- Francine Hardaway
mmm bandwidth
- kosso
Because of Steve, I have now watched all of Downton Abbey and gone on to MadMen. I am broke
- Francine Hardaway
Gillmor gang is the bandwidth hog
- Kevin Marks
WebRTC will replace skype
- Kevin Marks
Kinect for Italian politicians...
- Aron Michalski
WebAudio safari and chrome
- clive boulton
it's like a a third party buying your mortgage
- Tina Chase Gillmor
heroku,,,y-comb
- clive boulton
cloudant,,,,yc
- clive boulton
Francine - Mad Men is back. Watch in season, save dollars!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
mentoring
- kosso
I have created the same thing in Arizona, but nobody gives a crap/
- Francine Hardaway
Dropbox is a Y-Combinator company. So does OMGPOP (DrawSomething).
- Nir Ben Yona
And I mentor every week, and so do 28 other execs and angels. Arizona is just off the radar.
- Francine Hardaway
who bought lottery tickets?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Arizona is not alone
- clive boulton
I forgot
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think we may have lost Rob for good... Rooooob1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That much bread...scary. could pay my cable bill.
- Aron Michalski
Gangplank does this in Arizona. I'm going to keep saying this until someone hears it.
- Francine Hardaway
nokia?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
SFBA + NYC then the rest, even Seattle is a red dwarf
- clive boulton
WebRTC (the proposed standard) could potentially help propel Skype and others (webrtc is protocol agnostic)
- Erik Lagerway
Robert should check out @clipboard runs on Rackspace
- clive boulton
cliveb: I will and have checked out clipboard, but I'm not the target market for these things. :-)
- Robert Scoble
more mentors available too.
- kosso
more experience out there.
- kosso
I just interviewed Springpad, which competes in the Clipboard space too.
- Robert Scoble
and after the Facebook IPO, more money.
- kosso
that's a good point Steve makes.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve needs Simple.fi, an automated simplicity filter...
- Aron Michalski
It does feel like Google throws away a lot. Makes people reluctant
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert should check out Arizona. Arizona. Arizona. I am on a tear.
- Francine Hardaway
Robert: crunching the dom http://www.meetup.com/seattle...
- clive boulton
Francine, devs walk the gangplank, is there capital?
- clive boulton
They offer free services that they can data mine.
- Aron Michalski
Highlight keeps telling me people I don't care about are near me
- Francine Hardaway
stalkerlicious apps
- Susan Beebe
Francine - exactly
- Susan Beebe
Dog!!!
- Francine Hardaway
That sound you hear from the app is telling you to walk your dog...
- Aron Michalski
I'm not his friend...
- Aron Michalski
is that my dog?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Someone's dog is locked in somewhere
- Francine Hardaway
my dogs just came in
- Kevin Marks
Little red roosters back, dogs begin to howl
- clive boulton
Girls Around Me App Takes Creepy to a New Level - NY TIMES - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...
- Susan Beebe
Where is Boys Around Me? Once again, sexism
- Francine Hardaway
Nice doggie!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the app does both. Also, see grindr
- Kevin Marks
I know, cute doggie Kevin!!
- Susan Beebe
Streamboard - isn't that an iOS app only?
- Susan Beebe
Creep in my general vicinity
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have Streamboard, and I like it
- Francine Hardaway
We're wandering into the "I don't care about normal people" territory again. Look at the stream but you won't see me.
- Aron Michalski
American Idol broadcasts Lorem Ipsum: http://pinterest.com/pin...
- Kevin Marks
I can name that tune in two notes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey he's the Jimmy Iovine of Social Media...
- Aron Michalski
I move outside to avod the dogs, and a plane goes over
- Kevin Marks
Streamboard is iOS, yes.
- Robert Scoble
a Recublican
- Jerome Hughes
Streamboard is crack :)
- Susan Beebe
Repubhubsublican...
- Aron Michalski
Kevin cdant win today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Repubsubhubbublican
- Jerome Hughes
THat's hilarious Aronski and Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
Doggies around me - new app
- Kevin Marks
Oh well at least the guys are getting a point in befroe the show ends. not like last week where they saved all their insight for AFTER the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Here's the slam dunk for Kevin: https://plus.google.com/u...
- Robert Scoble
sounds effects all around
- Kevin Marks
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