"If anyone wants to follow me, my twitter account is @sterlizzi . While I am still doing sales and marketing consulting in the storage industry, I am currently bootstrapping a online digital photography site, www.wearephotographers.com. Its twitter account is @wearephotogs ."
- Stephen Terlizzi
@loic told me it feels like he took a bath.
- Robert Scoble
@loic says that having a small number of people he intimately follows lets him build real relationships online again.
- Robert Scoble
i just think people shouldnt take all of this so seriously.
- Terry O'Fee
Is there a way to do this (as in mass deletion option?) Thanks.
- hawk12online
@loic says that if you try to follow thousands of people there's no way to see all the tweets. That is true. If I refresh Twitter.com as fast as I can I can't see all the Tweets coming into my account.
- Robert Scoble
I have been actively unfollowing--not everyone--but anyone that seems not directly relevant or familiar to me on some level. Twitter has become a far richer experience since employing this technique
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Well how will you will you filter than or get to the things you like? A group of people you follow is in my experience one of the best information filters you can have.
- rick
I'm now following just over 100 people anyway
- VIVANO
there is more than one way to do twitter. both the @loic and @scobleizer way are right.
- Peggy Dolane
Oh, I'm sure it's an annoying mess with about 400 items per minute that mean absolutely nothing to you
- Dorian Muthig
Are you gonna unfollow everyone too, Robert?
- Reuben Thum
i have some really good friends i talk to on a regular basis. some i have conversations with. some proper celebrities because i cant help myself. the rest i suss out. if all they can talk about is ff and twitter, i may unfollow myself.
- Terry O'Fee
@loic and I see that there's something new happening. First, search like http://search.twitter.com is totally changing our inbound. Second, using services like friendfeed lets you group and manage large numbers of followers, so you'll still have the inbound, especially as more and more people join both friendfeed and Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
instead of unfollowing, I use FriendFeed to filter/group the tweeters according to their priority for me
- Alexander Benker
I agree Robert- following folks sometimes can be a total waste of time and waste of twitter. Quality over quantity seems to be the new movement of late and I have to agree fro the most part-I am tired of getting spammed and DMed by spam which we all have to delete. But I have always followed quality- and that is why I am responding to your tweet dude.
- DougFirebaugh
Sure when you have the amount of followers that you do and they will just listen it makes sense. But not for the average user of twitter. It's not about just being followed. I think you may have lost touch with the whole thing. You two are in the top 2%. Twitter is a completely different user experience than the other 98%.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
So are we calling this Follower Bankruptcy?
- Mike Doeff
This one of the reasons to have track, so you can follow your real friends and still discover new people
- Christian Burns
Robert, Twitter is a river of 140 char messages. Dive in when you feel like taking a bath. Get out when you had enough. Loic and you should stop whining about the drawbacks after you start following thousands of people ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
let's see robert unfollow everyone in friendfeed too. hah, that'll be the day.
- Terry O'Fee
Reuben: I haven't decided to yet, but @loic sure makes a good case for it.
- Robert Scoble
IMO, it's not a great idea. People will see this as a negative action toward them and unfollow you. If everybody were to unfollow everybody they know, twitter would become a meaningless array of nothingness. "If it ain't broke, don't unfollow it."
- Zerhynn
I have never bought into the mass followers approach and find that I have to find at least 2 or 3 tweets interesting within a page or two, in anybody I would choose to follow. I am interested in connection with people with similar interests and I don't think it makes sense to just build up volume.
- Kirti Vashee
There's certainly a buzz around this, we just talked about it on our podcast tonight. What sucks about unfollowing is losing the news-stream of information you're trying to capture--stuff you may not have notice/found. Maybe Twitter should implement groups, a'la tweetdeck?
- Paul Salzman
Although I do agree that you do not need to follow thousands of people.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
interesting concept - guess that is what I use tweetdeck, friendfeed and socialmedian for to allow me to focus on issues because I carefully selected the people I follow after reviewing their sites I see merit in unfollowing everyone just as I see in using third party apps - it depends on the individuals preferences
- Lionel Spearman
It's both good and bad. For one if your reduce the number of people you follow to a minimalistic amount you can build richer and more vibrant relationships with the select few. The bad however is that your world view is now much smaller than what it would have been. I'm actually thinking about unfollowing a mass of people to get back into a manageable range where I can read all of there tweets and then search for anything else.
- Jimminy
Why is it a new movement when SM gurus start doing it? I follow those that have similar interest or to learn different point of views. I have no goal to have the most followers or the best twitter grade. Twitter is about the relationships you build. Friends are relationships that I have built over years of trust and loyalty.
- Kyle
I would consider it, but I would have trouble shutting out that many. I am following 1000 and being followed by 1500
- Christian Burns
Having just decided to join the follow you movement I think unfollowing everyone is an unfriendly move, why not make a group for the 22 friends you really want to follow:)
- Suzie Cheel
Then there are some who follow then unfollow and follow again. lol.
- Carolyn Chan
One problem with not following everyone: only people you are following can send you direct messages on Twitter. That's one thing that's keeping me from running @loic's script. @loic points out, though, that most of my DM's are now spam. He's right.
- Robert Scoble
I've been speaking about that for a weeks, and applying it, glad it's finally trickling to the a-listers.
- Richard A.
Not sure I agree. Even with a small "following" I get real nuggets via DMs. Besides - it is rude to mass unfollow :)
- Rob La Gesse
I kind of wish I could limit my follows to 150
- Christian Burns
I have been thinking about this a lot. Recently I blogged about how opening up my Facebook to everyone who wanted to connect was not really resulting in meaningful relationships. We don't have the time to be engaged with that many people. We can put content out and discuss when they respond, but to actually use the medium in the way I used to when I had just a couple friends on there is no longer possible with so many people. Likewise, with Twitter.
- AV Flox
I won't be sad or hurt if @Scobleizer unfollows me. Frankly, not all my tweets are that relevant to the guy. Just so long as he checks his @replies and answers me every blue moon, that still falls in the category of a good relationship on Twitter. @shelisrael has an unfollow/follow as you go motto described on his blog, it makes sense to me.
- Phillip
It was my script. I'm the new guy at seesmic. I wrote it for loic today. if anyone wants it, I've got it. kick this movement into high stream. If you look at the first person in loic's follow list, its me now :-)
- Zac Bowling
But Robert, I thought you couldn't check your DM's? I remember seeing quite a few tweets from you saying "DON'T DM ME - EMAIL ME INSTEAD" etc.
- Brandon LeBlanc
from twhirl
Since I run much smaller number that Loic & Robert, my systematic subtractive technique works--if I had thousands of spamming DM--I would run Loic's script.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Brandon: I tried getting people to not send me DMs. Doesn't work. People were trying to do business with them (and still are). It's probably the single reason why I won't run the script.
- Robert Scoble
I love the spontaneity and surprise of many friends. I would never give it up. I discover things every day that delight me.
- John Kremer
Besides, if I really need to send Scoble a DM I can just call his Cell phone
- Christian Burns
A lot of the conversations that are still happening are interesting but the relationships built are no longer as close as they were when I had only a couple of followers. It's funny that you tweeted about only having 150 followers on Friendfeed and that's more conducive to quality relationships. Isn't 150 the Dunbar number? Loic's movement is worth reflecting on. I've been making use of Tweetdeck again to scale down the groups. It's helped but Loic's solution is seductive.
- AV Flox
This can be very short sighted. A great way to send the message, I don't want your business or money.
- Sylvia Webb
it would almost be a good idea except for one thing - @reply can only be seen by followers. It would be great if this were not the case, and I can see the spam potential if it were, but limiting @reply to followers, if you;re not following anyone, means everyone is in a big room shouting over each other instead of conversing.
- Brian Benz
New craze for newbies to twitter, following a small number of people and filter the rest for useful conversations. Quantity is not quality!
- Carl Plant
People that I follow on Twitter, for the most part, aren't "friends" in any normal sense of the word. Most of them are unaware of my existence. I tend to selectively follow (previewing someone's stream before following) and actively unfollow (usually when I see a page full of "Welcome, @one" and "Welcome, @two" messages).
- Glen Mistletoe
i'm far more suspicious of those following me than i'm concerned about who I follow. I'm always looking to prune my Twitter follows and -- what can I say -- it's hard... lots of people in my twitterfeed tend to add value more often than not!
- Andy Sternberg
Also, does this approach not create a new A-list in a different place?
- Brian Benz
Just goes to prove that Steve Gillmor is always right, eventually you will see it his way :)
- Christian Burns
Do what works for you. If it stops working for you then make a change. I don't think there is any reason for debate here. To each his/her own.
- Katherine Druckman
@Robert it isn't possbile to say to people not to use DM. And if you feel like you should build up such a large crowd you follow or that follow you then accept the consequences. You get value because it lets you be an information hub and provides you overall sex appeal in the tech community. In return you will have to accept that people try to get access to you to get back some of that value for themselves or their products.
- Alexander van Elsas
if it ain't broke. don't fix it. i wouldn't unfollow everyone but i do find myself filtering more. being open and keeping channels 2 way has allowed me to meet some amazing contacts interested in doing business in China. to unfollow people would be to cut off these channels for me. a lot of these contacts are via DM. everyone's got a different way of using twitter.
- Christine Lu
Brian: why? Not sure what you're getting at there.
- Robert Scoble
It's not necessary to see all the tweets. You can use Tweetdeck and other services to make sure you don't miss your favorites. I still love the nuggets I discover -- like this post -- that I would not discover if I stopped following so many people.
- John Kremer
I can make it easy for @loic. Nuke the account and start over following the 22 people.
- Christian Anderson
Am I wrong to say that if you use Twitter search @yourusername you can't see @replies from people NOT following you? I tried it and it seems to work for me.
- Phillip
Christine: it's all broken, it's just that I have gotten used to routing around the fail whales and the stream flowing through Tweetdeck. I "media snack" and just sample from the stream flowing by. It doesn't bother me too much either way. I do find that friendfeed is a far better place and it's great to see more and more people discovering that.
- Robert Scoble
Phillip: bing! Oh, by the way, I'm following everyone on this thread. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Geez, Loic is like the drama queen of the web.
- Orli Yakuel
Christian: actually that's probably what I would do if I was tired of a high-flow account: just start a new account with only a few friends and lock down the followers. Maybe that's the solution for true addicts like me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm unfollowing everyone on twitter and friendfeed who I don't know personally or isn't local. Sorry peeps, Twitter and friendfeed works best like that. Once I get everything clean, feel free to let me know you're still following me and I'll follow back.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Orli: oh, if you can't have some drama what fun is social media? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I have a simple, less radical set of rules: 1) use groups, 2) un-follow anyone who spams you with direct messages and 3) move questions/conversations to friendfeed.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I too use FriendFeed's and TweetDeck's group functions to prioritize the tweets that comes in from my followees.
- Vinko
52 pages, 1025 people I follow on twitter. Each one was added by me for a reason. No auto-follow. First person ever followed was Jason Calacanis over two years agao.
- Christian Burns
My twitter name is @infoliberation. I find that Twitter is short and sweet and Friendfeed is for a much more robust conversation. I love the marriage of the two. I think Friendfeed is helped greatly by Twitter's jumping off point. What else can you say to that?
- Phillip
damn...right when my followership just started taking off. :-(
- Jason Salas
from IM
I agree with Katherine, to each his own. I've got just a wee 2000 followers, but enjoy popping in to respond to whatever random tweet catches my eye or relevant tweets I've found through saved topic searches. Hey, I even got a new client today - so I'm doing just fine with how things are now.
- Cheryl Allin
please people, let's try for tomorrow for a day on this where we dont talk about twitter or friendfeed. there's other stuff to talk about...
- Terry O'Fee
Robert, come on... this is not what I'm worried about. I think that you really know most of your friends, or for at least trying to communicate with people you don't know. With Twitter you get to know new friends & content based on the same taste/interests - to follow only people you know, is like taking two steps back. (and thanks for following me!)
- Orli Yakuel
Not sure why you would need to unfollow everyone to keep track of what your important people tweet. Just form a group of high-profile folks in TweetDeck and it'll do the same thing, plus you can still follow everyone else for when you want to jump in the stream.
- Cory OBrien
i just unfollowed a couple of folks, it's true, we can live without twitter,facebook and friendfeed. How about for lent we give up facebook, twitter and friendfeed?
- Dh'ennis Dömingö
Robert - Limiting followers = limiting DMs and replies and tweets you can see from others - In Loic's example 22 invitees (followers) that get to have a seat at the table while the rest of us can watch the action passively. TO me this would be as exciting as C-Span. :)
- Brian Benz
I cannot fathom following hundreds of people. I was in the 90s a couple of weeks ago so I pruned my list down to 78. Even that seems high but I couldn't go lower. I'm slow to follow folks, on Twitter & FF, because I'd rather follow a small group of folks I've a genuine connection with than a ton of folks I only have a vague sense about. Some folks tell me I'm doing social media wrong but I think that's silly. For me, social media is all about fun so what need have I of 1000s of followers?
- ♥patricia♥
I think everyone will find their own Twitter preferences. I'm following 606 right now. In a week or two I may clean out some of the driftwood - people who've gone silent or have switched to topics that aren't interesting, but then I'll add some new folks to make up for it. I don't catch every Tweet, but the stream keeps running. So long as it's populated with interesting folk, the Tweets that I do catch are more likely to be interesting as well.
- Heidi Cool
Orli: I've decided that @loic is wrong. But he's also right. Twitter, you see, is really broken for interacting with large numbers of people. Friendfeed is much better.
- Robert Scoble
I think Loic let things get out of control. Robert, considering how many followers you have, you seem to be able to manage your account better than anybody. If your truly are looking for a quality experience, you have to decide what works for you. I always thought it was about quality not quantity:-)
- Michael Fidler
@loic I think its cool that you rebooted who you follow
- Christian Burns
On Pownce I used to try to keep track of all posts (and followed fewer people) but Pownce was more indepth. On Twitter one can glean a lot from just a small percentage of what's there.
- Heidi Cool
Robert, with that I agree: FriendFeed is better for long and real conversations.
- Orli Yakuel
I agree groups in tweetdeck help you filter very well without missing some occasional random tweets. keeping up with your @replies is more critical than every single tweet.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Robert - you should unfollow everyone and see what happens. make sure that script stores everyone you are following in a db in case you want to re-follow after the test.
- Gerard
While I didn't unfollow everyone, I cut out a lot of who I was following. Might be rude, but it's not meant to be that way. i no longer have the time to follow so many people.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Gerard: it would cause too many messages to fly around. People get their feelings hurt if someone unfollows them.
- Robert Scoble
If I unfollow people, then I'd be digitally talking to myself. I can do that IRL
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My feelings wouldn't be hurt - I'd doubt if I'd even realize it - that's not what I'm using Twitter for - just silly to me.
- Cheryl Allin
Twitter is what you want it to be. That's one of the fascinating things. My own view of it has changed a dozen times since I started. Everyone has their own philosophy about how to use it, and they are all valid. As for me, I'm simply not going to follow anybody who doesn't follow me, and I will follow anybody (as long as they are real) I just unfollowed loic. The World is flat. Will I miss out? Perhaps, but if I want to know what the 'important' people are thinking I can just go to their sites.
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: You're currently "following" 69,188 people on Twitter. If one of those people has their feelings hurt because you unfollow them and they no longer have 1/70,000th of your attention, they have a screw loose.
- Ken Sheppardson
Twhirl gives you inbound with saved searches, each search a tab stream. I love it. Create a saved search for keyword 'RT' and see what's hot or a saved search like 'chrisbrogan' and follow him and all who @ him.
- Cheryl Allin
I say bite the bullet, clear things out, add some searches in Tweetdeck or one of the "track" services, and follow people manually as your real relationships warrant. You can alway run a script to just follow everybody later if you miss the noise.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: I unfollowed according to three criteria 1. Does the person follow more than a thousand 2. Does the person respond 3. does the person tweet links and RT rather than content, the fourth is whether you're unlucky enough to tweet when I'm in unfollow mode. Result: A more social timeline.
- Richard A.
Sounds like Loic needs to fix Twhirl to manage his followers better. He doesn't have to pay attention to every single one, but he does need a way to build relationships with those he wants to. Twhirl is horrible at this.
- Jesse Stay
@Richard Azia: I couldn't have agreed with you more on your criteria.
- Reuben Thum
@Jesse Stay, I use twhirl and it's fine for what I do, but that's because I culled my follow list removing all those that aren't active conversationalists.
- Richard A.
Reuben, My timeline is far more fun now as a result :-). Took a few experiments to find the right method though.
- Richard A.
I think people who find this idea good are those who were to liberal in following. I'm conservative when it comes to social network connections. I follow 64 on Twitter and have less than 40 friends on Facebook.
- KyleHase
from twhirl
@Richard Azia: I did the same thing like you did, too. Instead of auto following people blindly, I use an auto follow app, but manually unfollow spammers and users based on similar criteria you've mentioned.
- Reuben Thum
At a certain point if you had autofollow on you have no choice but to start over because a) you can follow the number of tweets and b) you will stress the Twitter servers out.
- Jason Calacanis
Reuben. I don't use auto follow, For me to follow someone new I want to see how converstional they are first. That's when I might consider them on twitter.
- Richard A.
Robert: Is this the flip side of what Jason and Michael were taking you to task on a few weeks back on GG? Is it time to do more meaningful *listening*?
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: I 'think' I was the first person with over 20k followers to do this. Though in my case, I totally reset my account - zero following / zero followers. http://jimsmarketingblog.com/2009... it has been a universally great experience to me and massively increased the value of Twitter to me.
- Jim Connolly
Ken: yes, I think this has a big part to do with addiction too. You keep trying to follow more and more until you snap.
- Robert Scoble
An interesting idea, as I have found I have followers but a very select few who actually respond regularly, I wonder if it is matter of depersonalization, losing what it once represented as a means to an end. Certainly it could be a good idea, but many of those who I have found were those who had spoke on something of interest in the wide swath of sea that is twitter. So I will consider it, but am not sure if there will be follow through anytime soon. Though I guess it would depend also on how effective.
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
As someone has probably already pointed out in a more eloquent fashion, Loic's company makes a Twitter client. Surely he should build tools into that client to make the overload problem more manageable and certainly not try to set a trend of "hey it's cool to unfollow lots of people now". That sort of sends the wrong message to people about your company and it's thinking.
- Pete Gilbert
I don’t see how this is even an idea to be considered. If we unfollow everybody and everybody else unfollows the rest, then Twitter will become a very lonely place. Boring place with no use what so ever… I strongly disagree with this.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
This the Loic Le Meur trend he catch big head, because he is personnal friend of Sarkozy , the small napoleon
- Yann
from twhirl
agreed @peter, it's nonsense, companywise, to promote that kind of message when you try to spread your twitter tool.Anyway, I think it's more a trend problem, the 2009 fashion is to unfollow everyone and @loic cannot do unfashioned thing because this is how he builds his reputation and his company notoriety.Dommage...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
There is no point being on twitter if your purpose is to broadcast. For broadcasting blogs and other platforms are more interesting. If you take dialogue away from twitter you undermine the most active members of the community because they will feel people are using the site too passively. Why do you think social networks fail, lack of involvment. At least by reducing the number of people you follow you increase engagement on a per person basis. It becomes personal once more.
- Richard A.
@ J-C verde, as you said is dommage, Loic catch the big head , i guess when he will realize that will be too late
- Yann
from twhirl
It's beginning to feel like the @1938media technique--in reverse--sans personality shift. Loic will now certainly be the topic of many blog posts in the next day or two.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
@Robert and what is the criteria to detect people in such a huge stream? Come on, this is a network thing: you follow someone because someone else you share interest with has followed him, much more than picking up in twitter "all" stream...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
Jean: I am very adept at scrolling through a huge list of names and telling you something about most of them. Friendfeed is where I spend most of my time, though.
- Robert Scoble
GREAT idea Loic, way to prove your software really can't handle the numbers. This is a weird move from a very smart man.
- Jim Connolly
Understand, Robert, but I think that setting up filters (like you did) is a better way than unfollowing people, which seems to be a "2009 trend" with no real reason, even more when you promote a twitter tool.You barely say "my tool suck, so I can't do anything but unfollow you'.Bad move, IMO.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
I think Loic displayed a certain degree of immaturity in handling twitter as a tool. It is as overdone to follow everyone as it is to unfollow radically. Inspired by the debate, I felt a bit like Moses today ( ;-) ), and subsequently assembled bloggi's Ten Commandments of Twitter: http://bit.ly/ten-commandments
- Mark Jacobs
Jean: agreed. I like friendfeed as an answer a lot more. Just open up a list and put the people you want to really follow in there and keep everyone else out.
- Robert Scoble
If everybody unfollows everybody else then there is no twitter
- Mark Fletcher
for the one devellop a twitter tool like Twhirl , i admit is a strange behavior, maybe is normal he is french
- Yann
from twhirl
As Twitter's user numbers have INCREASED it's usability (to me) has DECREASED. Is it just me?
- Jim Connolly
I can understand Loic's reasons, but I don't agree with it. I don't personally know 95% of the people I follow on twitter. It is however neither relevant nor important for that to be a pre-requisite to starting an interesting conversation. I don't auto follow people and i only pay attention to whoever I want to irrespective of the number of people i am subscribed to. Moreover, a large number of people have occasional sparks of interestingness. So if one can learn to ignore; the more the better.
- Parth Awasthi
@Jim_Connolly It is the old law of decreasing returns when new media trivialize. But usually, I am pretty untouched by it since (having been around since February 2007 in twitter) I only follow some 350 people to this day. So I get a good result from my circle of followees. Also, I try to give by helping out new twitter users who have questions.
- Mark Jacobs
@Parth_Awasthi I think, lioc created a big mess by first auto following, and now seeing no other way out than to unfollow. Somehow, it makes me giggle a bit :-)
- Mark Jacobs
You guys have way too much free time on your hands with this nonsense.
- Wayne Schulz
Too much drama. It's funny how many social networks bemoan lack of users and with Twitter, the opposite problem is the subject of complaints - "there's too many bots and DMs! oh my!" Bleh.
- Eric Gonzalez
hey guy don't confuse is only one Guy got the big head this is not a trend
- Yann
from twhirl
I really don't share opinion about Loic putting this on a personal way. This is a strategy mistake (company-wise), a trend mistake (2009-ish fashion)...But not a big head problem. Loic had thousands reasons to have a huge head issue before and did not, so I don't see why it would be the case now
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
this become a hot topic, maybe to much for that
- Yann
from twhirl
at always promote himself as rock Star , finally he catch the big head
- Yann
from twhirl
Robert Scoble: What about the people that are using only Twitter? What about the ones that don't use FriendFeed? Ok, we might be crazy having many many accounts on most of all social platforms, but other only use one or two. By unfollowing everyone, there is no Twitter as Mark Fletcher said.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
I'd agree with someone earlier Loic wants to keep his followers but follow less bet he wouldn't have started that policy at the beginning otherwise he would have a few k followers at most! If he had real balls then he would delete his account like @jimconnolly did and start fresh but he wont as he still wants to 'use' the big following he has, talk about one way!
- roger byrne
don't have to start unfollowing anyone as i didn't start following everyone in the first place.. never really understood the auto-following of twitterers i started following.. you've got twittersearch to find people with common interests..
- Johannan Edelman
@scobleizer @loic So much as issues matter, people also matter. Unfollowing people because there is an alternative way to search for issues or interests is limiting the scope to generate them in the first place. Following more people signals belongingness and interests or issues heard. On the other hand, small followings signals selfishness and is the same as 'greed is good'.
- Moses Kpetigo
Interesting: so would @loic also encourage all his followers to stop following him? so he could stick with his few twitter fellows? If I remember, he was the one all about numbers and authority. It seems like, once you've reached enough, you're safe ppl will follow you no matter what, you have good "authority" and then you can unfollow all the mass and become a Twitter snob? It sounds too much like a strategy to me. In which he succeed, no doubt. Will he lose credibility? I wonder.
- May
I like Robert's snack analogy: I consider Twitter as a news source roughly tuned to my general interests via who I decided to follow. In this respect I could follow lots of people, since it makes sure that each time I go to Twitter, I will find something interesting to me. I know I won't be able to read everything, but I don't care, it's just like in a book store I know I can't read all the books, but I like to sample in the sci-fi shelves
- Antoine Bertier
@loic is becoming way too elitist lately. i didn't hear him complaining when he was following thousands of people to promote seesmic!
- Alensa
@antoine Exactly right imho most have never claimed and quite the opposite actually specified they don't/can't read every tweet but when they are on they are on and dip into the party! Loics party just got real small! ;)
- roger byrne
while search.twitter.com is useful, twitter puts you on the front of the wave not searching to catch up afterwards
- Mark Parssey
There are Wars currently on this planet, half of people dont have anything to eat, drink, there is a global economic crisis, but all that is bullshit compare to Twitter... Right? GrRRRrRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Didier Lahely
All in all, Twitter and FriendFeed are really nothing more than a Yahoo chatroom. Way too much noise and too many people that need to get over themselves.
- Charles Baldwin
i constantly wonder how you keep up with sooooo many followers. doesn't it drive you nuts????
- Francisco Kemeny
My twitterverse contains people I pay attention to, people that I have so I can search and some that I just follow for a moment and then remove.
- Josef Finsel
from twhirl
Human attention spans (and time) are limited. Twitter and IMing are a large 'experiment' , still a work in progress--the jury is out!
- JimmyJet
If you have so many followers that you have to unfollow because you didn't follow based on what the people were saying, but instead followed to up your "network", then Twitter probably isn't the venue for you. Check out MySpace and do that...
- Nicki Laycoax
*yawn* what's new here? nothing. @fidlr and others started the twexpire type experiments (look up the script if you care) long ago; not loic or scoble. i specified the #egosphere vs. #cognosphere usage scenarios long ago. @JimmyJet and @DidierLahely sum it up well. In another sense, all of this is IRC and Usenet for dummies.
- michael silverton
it's a good exercise to see how much you really miss the tweets of those you unfollow. And also see how many of them will remain followers after you unfollow.
- Mihai Secasiu
I'd argue that having 23k followers is 'doing it wrong' & you should unfollow and start over. I follow 329 right now and the signal-to-noise ratio is manageable. It's a mix of people I know intimately, casually and professionally, and that's where I have the conversations and relationship-building. Next is a handful of news and interesting/high # of followers people. Then, a few individuals with similar numbers as me I found interesting, which has allowed for Twitter-specific relationship-building.
- Laura Hall
I agree with @Johannan Edelman I have never used the autofollow function and have felt those I do follow provide value to me.
- Jill Howard Allen
As an additional note, if I were to increase my activity and wanted to manage those relationships, I'd start doing filtered lists.
- Laura Hall
Groups/filteting seems to be a more sensible and positive sltuion to the "too many followers" problem. eh.
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
It's nice that people find what works for them, but there is no "doin' it wrong" There is only "doin it with clue" or "doin it clueless" ... if one doesn't know WHY one is doin' it, no life coach, guru, or A-lister can help. Form your own experiments and execute them. You need no approval or permission from any seeming authority figure. Look up #cognosophere and #egosophere if you care. P.S. PeopleBrowsr breaks ALL these assumptions; it's a completely new kind of literacy beyond Twitter and Friendfeed.
- michael silverton
Loic forgot how he use Twitter for promte seesmic ...... why not unfollow him too ??
- Yann
from twhirl
I guess I just like to see what people are up to. Isn't that what it was all about before the marketing types took over? Now it's about "getting value" and "managing relationships". I joined so I could tell people what I was having for lunch.
- Shawn Farner
I like being in your Twitter stream, I like the idea that thought leaders and influential people like yourself occasionally get to read my updates. You know, once in a blue moon I come up with a great idea, and it's cool to know that in turn this might just inspire Scoble, or Fry for that matter, too.
- Terje Fjelde
On the other hand I hate reading about strangers "spending the entire day in bed" or "being bored," so I only follow people who add quality updates on my own account
- Terje Fjelde
the main issue comes from the fact Twitter does not help users follow and decide efficiently on new followers. Robert if you are interested we have created a new service called Topify.com. if you are interested i ll drop you an invite
- Ouriel Ohayon
Twitter has provide me a way to build a network of people and experts very quickly in fields where I previously did not have contacts or experience. To blanket unfollow would be like cutting my nose off in spite of my face.
- Stephen Terlizzi
How will this help...what will it do?
- John Flynn
ouriel: sure, send it to scobleizer@gmail.com
- Robert Scoble
robert: you ll get it in a few days, just after we migrated servers. i am sure you ll love it :)
- Ouriel Ohayon
That's not new. Loic didn't start a trend. I've only bee using these services since May and I've done it on several occasions and not just on Twitter. Several people have.
- Admiral Anika
I did that for a while on my first (now private/personal) account, and found myself going to 5-6 follower's Twitter pages to read the news (ala RSS reader days) a couple of times a day. Now that I have a public account, I creeped up to 75-100 again but am consciously rotating folks in and out of my "Top 50." My Twitterstream is like a living, breathing being, I guess! But by intensely following different people at different times, I learn something new and can move on. It's quality, not quantity.
- Carolyn
Robert - the idea of reducing who you actively follow and relying more on search notifications is the premise of this post: "2009 Prediction: As Social Connections Reduce, Keyword Tracking Increases" http://bit.ly/hfQq
- Hutch Carpenter
My .02 I do wish twitter had an "inbox" feature so I could divide up those I follow into categories and then read tweets as I like. I know tweetdeck does this but I don't like having to rely on two pieces of software to make it work. Feeding people into my rss reader would take forever. The FriendFeed model of being able to categorize people as you friend them is perfect. Then you can check up on a particular category of people anytime you like. (i.e. politicians, Social Media nuts, writers, etc)
- Sid Burgess
I think a lot of the "unfollowing" noise is reaction to those who are gaming their follower counts on Twitter. It's upset the numerical dominance of the traditional A-listers, who were already stinging from the arrival of *real* celebrities to the service. So now there's a swing back to exclusivity. I'm not sure Loic is wrong, though: I'm planning on significantly downsizing who I follow on FriendFeed. This format seems more suitable for conversation. Twitter is fine for a big, noisy stream.
- Chris Baskind
Chris: on friendfeed just stick the people you want to rarely follow into a list, or do what I did: put the people you REALLY want to follow into a list and read that everyday. That way you'll still have the massive inflows somewhere else when you want those too.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: there is something to that, by the way. But you've only touched the surface of the breakage that happened the past month. Go deeper there and you will find the truth.
- Robert Scoble
Chris - Lists have answered this quandary for me. The bacon memes are fun, but I didn't want them filling up my main feed. And during the day, I have a professional need to focus on the world of e2.0. Lists really do serve the purpose Loic set out to accomplish.
- Hutch Carpenter
unfollow everyone on twitter, FB and every other social network. UK scientists sez that these SN sites actually rewires the nueural network within the brain and thereby making an individual more selfish and self centered. Thus cause pyschological damage to themselves.. :(- (p.s Link will follow- I just heard it this AM on FM while communting to work !!)
- Peter Dawson
You have to be damn special for me to follow you, without you following me, and I try to only follow people with a near 1:1 ratio. There are of course, exception. Sarah Crisman unfollowed me one day, I never found out why, but I didn't drop her cause I like her content.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert: I know that's an oversimplification. There are a number of factors upsetting the apple cart on Twitter, and not all of them are petty or nefarious.
- Chris Baskind
Chris: even the petty ones are deeper if you dig beyond the ego damage.
- Robert Scoble
Bad thing, and if you do it, you will confirm that you A-listers only exploited social media as your broadcasting tool for your own political agenda and not as a true conversation.
- Prokofy Neva
I got over the ego damage quickly cause # of followers never did matter. But what remains? Twitter has harmed its community. This is an easy mistake to make and it's one that comes out of @ev and @biz's arrogance. They rarely use their own tools, by the way. Look at @ev's account and tell me he's really a great Twitterer that talks with tons of people. He does not.
- Robert Scoble
What's even funnier is that the guy who actually came up with the idea for Twitter, @noah, is not one of the suggested followers while other people on the team are. I should write a book about how funny this all is.
- Robert Scoble
@loic seems to have quit over inane DM spam thanking for following, etc. Is there no way to stop automated use of the tools?
- Prokofy Neva
Prokofy: that's not really a good reason to follow everyone. But there are plenty of other good reasons, so I keep doing it. @Ryo you're off the rails. Get back on track. You're close to the track, but not on it.
- Robert Scoble
BS meme! the unfollowers just want to blast their mouths off and not listen to what others have to say
- DC Crowley
Prokofy: no. Twitter's DM feature really sucks. It always has. I just use it because everyone else wants to.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter's DM is a reinvention of a wheel named EMAILS.
- directeur
directeur: only done in the most lame way possible.
- Robert Scoble
Much like the FF comment system is a reinvention of vBulletin/phpBB, done in the most lame way possible.
- Ken Sheppardson
Prokofy: That is the same argument that went on for a few weeks back in November here on FF. @loic decided that unfollowing everyone was a better solution that to simply utilize the tools at hand to filter and refine his firehose. Instead of unfollowing everyone @loic could have taken these treasured 25 or whatever and put them in a tweatdeck group that brings only their DM's to him, with all the other DM's going ignored. DM's are NOT like email, there isn't an expectation of reply when you send a DM
- Matthew DeVries
Everything is a reinvention of Usenet or E-mail, or N. Just like everything on the Internet is a repost of a repost.
- Sam Levine
Let's play this out...if everyone unfollowed a significant % of those whom they don't care about...then it would INCREASE the ability to communicate with those they do care about without all the noise. I'm sure we would all agree this is a good thing. However, if we were to unfollow EVERYONE...are we little more than individual broadcasters that never allow for a two way dialogue? This would dramatically change the landscape of Twitter because a profound hierarchy would emerge: "follows" and "follow-nots"
- Drew Sams
Drew, I've been writing about that topic for a while now, but especially in recent weeks with the influx of new twitter users who don't attempt to converse yet.
- Richard A.
Don't you think it has incremental feature improvements each time though, Levine?
- coldbrew
Depending on how you use FF, it is much like IRC combined w/ Usenet
- coldbrew
Richard: most new twitter accounts I'm seeing lately are bots. Not real users and provably so. Real users display random behavior. The new accounts do not. Humans are never consistent.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe they had a falling out and Noah is no longer welcome?
- Tony C
Richard, thanks for sharing...this has been a topic I'm really interested in. I'll head over to your blog and check out what you've written. Cheers!
- Drew Sams
One way in which the FF comment system is lame: comments on Scoble threads move so fast that in the time I've typed this, there will probably be five other new comments. Yet FF will chose to hide some of them and instead say "20x more comments". When I click on that, the thread expands into 5+ pages of comments, and I have to scroll down and try to remember what I saw last. Lack of read/unread status and/or visible (non-mouseover) timestamps are pretty significant time sinks/inefficiencies.
- Ken Sheppardson
Enough off-topic. I think this is ironic on a number of levels:
- coldbrew
A way to think about Loic. There are a lot of gamers who follow huge numbers, then unfollow massively to look A-List. Loic is A-List. But even so, ask yourself what *you've* gotten from Loic. If you can't answer that question, your unfollow decision should be clear.
- Hutch Carpenter
Drew: That's like saying in 1890 to communicate better with your friends/family, you need to erase the rest of the country so the mail man can find your people easier/faster. There are tools to filter and refine your communication with Twitter and Friendfeed. It is wrong to choose the nuclear option instead of just using the tools to organize their communication streams, as these platforms evolve they're going to regret casting people out and then have to be in a position to regather them again.
- Matthew DeVries
Ken: The datastream is there, write an app to create what you want.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: Workin' on it :-) Coldbrew: Who appointed you guy who gets to decide what's off-/on-topic? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Sheppardson, not sure. Just using the convention of looking at the post title. Do you have another metric by which to judge objectively?\
- coldbrew
There's the 1st piece of irony, DeVries, " There are tools to filter and refine your communication with Twitter and Friendfeed." Le Meur's company, Seesmic, makes one of them, but it can't do its job ;-)
- coldbrew
coldbrew: I'd explain, but that'd be off topic :-P
- Ken Sheppardson
2nd piece of irony comes from the fact that Scoble is disseminating it, but he seems to be keeping a very objective stance, neither agreeing nor disagreeing with Le Meur's justifications for his actions.
- coldbrew
Scoble, of course, is "well known" for following so many people all over the ecoshpere [edit: and that is ironic to me]
- coldbrew
Coldbrew: Like a black fly in your chardonnay?
- Matthew DeVries
I find the trend puzzling especially (as @Jim Connolly pointed out) when it's someone like Loic who actually built a tool to help bring method to this madness. Robert, you make it seem so easy and I am in awe as to how you manage to respond to thousands of your followers, both here and on Twitter. It's obvious that not everyone can do it, it's probably getting overwhelming for some.
- MiaD
Matthew: TOTALLY agree with you. I probably wasn't the clearest in my comment above. While I choose to unfollow bots and spammers, I prefer to use tools like Tweetdeck and others to filter conversations. The second half of my comment is what I think will happen if we go the nuclear route: Social media will just become a marketplace where ideas are broadcasted but never sharpened through the dialogue process...I don't want another place where ideas and products are hawked at me without my ability to dialogue
- Drew Sams
Anyway, promiscuity in public isn't good?
- coldbrew
Unfollowing enmasse isn't good business. GKawasaki "gets" Twitter. @Loic either doesn't get it or doesn't know what 2 do with it. I unfollowed him back.
- Now Voyager
first the morons were all bout braggin bout how many followers they had, now they realize "oh shit, I can't figure out who said what and when" so now they get to un-follow & that is news. Give me a fucking break, follow or don't follow for the right reasons.In reality at the most people can have 300 odd relationships with people and sustain it beyond that it is just Hello and good bye and that's about it.
- Baba
"I unfollowed him back" Oh did ya' now?
- coldbrew
This is like watching a movie about a young passionate teen as he slogs his way the the world, making mistakes, and learning right before your eyes.
- coldbrew
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Unfollowing is always an option, but why do it without criteria???
- Jorge Martins Rosa
I could clean up a little, but I like following several hundred. I started in 2006 by following the broadcasters and some of the people that followed them and that they followed. I've slowly increased the number I follow since then. Some days I add about a dozen and unfollow about eight. I like to slowly see what people are saying, participate a little and really meet people. I can manage following hundreds.
- Bill
this is you invite people in you're house and studently you kick everybody out without reasons, i remenber when L L M always ask to be followed on twitter . anyway i also kick out from every where and delete my seemsic account .................... some french people when they become famous they got big head
- Yann
from twhirl
Not sure I agree with @loic but have been thinking the same. The relity is you can only carry relevant conversations with a limited number of people.
- RicardoSilva
I think you should do it. Just look at that number. 69,394. It does no good to follow that many people. Wipe the slate clean.
- techky
I really think Twitter should have group and thread (at least one level)
- Jeremy Chone
I found the original mail on the twitter-dev list:So I have kind of weird request. My boss, who is following 24,386 people (and has 22,752 followers) came to me and wanted me to hack something to wipe out all the people he follows so he can start clean again for various reasons. I'm curious if there is any tools internally at twitter that could help with this maybe because this seems to...
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- Daniel W. Crompton
It's insanely easy to "follow" lots of people. With groups and search in Tweetdeck (sorry @loic) and filters plus tag-focusing services like Twitterfall, I can now focus attention on a "slice" (i.e., a window pane or dialog box). It is very rare that I look at an unfiltered stream. I am almost always looking at a refined view of the entire stream. It kind of reminds me of the Matrix. The "operators" were able to see small nuances in the unadulterated feed.
- Lorin Olsen
Nevertheless, I am intrigued by reducing the number of people I follow. I want to have "intimate" conversations and not just blast tones into an echo chamber. In fairness, that is one of the reasons I am doing more in Friendfeed.
- Lorin Olsen
I think it may be good if people with large followings and who follow a lot of people had two Twitter accounts. One for broadcasting and having the ability to DM many people in your network and the second one solely for listening to quality and engaging with your core network. Doing this may solve the problems referred to above.
- Bill Romanos
@Hutch is quite correct in saying "ask yourself what *you've* gotten from Loic. If you can't answer that question, your unfollow decision should be clear." Exactly!! that should be the criteria for everyone, A-list or not. I've unfollowed some "A-listers" who are focused on things which don't tickle my fancy. Nothing personal of course, the goal is to get focused.
- Eric Gonzalez
By the way, I don't mind an unfollow, but what's up with the "tell me why I should follow you back?" business. Doesn't that seem odd?
- Eric Gonzalez
Mike, I assume you are not following anybody so you don't need not to take any action. The proposed procedures only concern people who follow somebody else on this thing called Twitter. :-)
- Tapio Kulmala
Antoine, No. There was once a rumor that they have tested auto-unfollow in their lab. The performance testing results were alarming. They noticed that they should get rid of 90% of their servers in 2 weeks. The CFO decided that they could not afford that kind of capital losses.
- Tapio Kulmala
I just went through my follows on Twitter and removed a bunch of people I'd never heard of before. I forgot I had signed up with socialtoo.com when Scoble mentioned it and it's all turned off now anyway. We'll see later if my own followers suddenly will now go away cause they're using the same type of tools.
- Paul Wade
People feel slighted when unfollowed - decidedly unsocial. And with tools like Tweetdeck and peoplebrowsr allowing you to create groups (i.e. 'core people', or 'people I know' etc), there's no reason why you can't continue to follow loads of people and focus in on the ones who matter to you. It's social to follow back, and helps build relationships, but that doesn't mean you can't focus on the people who matter to you - there are tools.
- Tom Beardshaw
I even had someone I'd met (and we'd made friends on Facebook) unfollow me then add me to a "<name>monitor" twitter account, saying "this is the account I use to keep track of a wider network" - which pretty much tells you they're not paying any attention to you at all. I promptly unfollowed him. Social is multidirectional relationships - I don't like one way relationships - they're bad for your health! I follow everyone who follows me unless they're trying to sell me something
- Tom Beardshaw
So that's what happened--Loic unfollowed and then refollowed me.;-) Someone constantly keeps doing that on my FB acct., too. I must say, the more followers I get lately who are trying to tell me about how to use social media and internet marketing to get rich, the more this option sounds good. Way too many spammers lately, or just folks who aren't bothering to find out about who you really are and how to have a conversation. Ugh.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Loic method may have been extreme, but I understand where it is coming from, at a certain number, its hard to follow who you are interested in and maybe starting over again is the way to go.. I actually created a second twitter account just for companies and organizations, because I was noticing they were taking over my original account.
- Kim Landwehr
Well - Loic simply has one big problem: He doesn´t use Tweetdeck and the Group feature! LOL
- Dieter Schwarz
I've already noticed a drop in my followers number. Doesn't matter to me though.
- Paul Wade
Drop in follower, but any increase in participation. That's why I unfollowed so many.
- Richard A.
Looked at who I was following and came to the conclusion most of the people I was following were unneeded, whether due to lack of interesting content or inactivity. Been unfollowing people for the last few weeks. Trying to keep it around 200
- BCK
With tools such as TweetDeck I can setup groups and searches for those tweets I care about the most. Makes number of following irrelevant.
- Robert J Taylor
I give me a chance. follow them for bit see if there interact post anything of value reply to my tweets . If not its just pointless.
- John Cusick
That may work for the twitter elite, but for users like me, it defeats the point of twitter, which is to build community by networking.
- Kelly
Like Dave, I'm careful about who I follow in the first place, and I've only had to unfollow a couple of people who got out of hand.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
I'm a careful user, and this realm showed me how people can react rapidly to certain things. I've been unfollowed more than I did unfollow. Note that I'm a curious type of guy and love discovering things in everyone. I think that can be a good thing for those whose critical to the point of stopping everything second to witness being too much analyzing those to unfollow. Else, why be that critical to the point of massive cleaning? Is digital managing difficult and tiring for some? Reminds me: GReader refresh
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
I got 0 value out of following @loic, so I lost nothing. I also unfollowed.
- Mike Lewis
I can do the same thing via a Favorite list in FriendFeed.
- Bill Bittner
my god the annoying post that never ends!! :P hahah
- Terry O'Fee
Time, there is not enough time to follow everyone. It has to be narrowed at some point to still be productive in your business. I do not mind visiting a stream and subscribing..just like I do not mind unsubscribing. Just doing a total following everyone or not following anyone is absurd.
- Brian McClure
At the moment this post has close to 400 likes plus comments. Which provokes the thought: rank Friendfeed posts by likes plus comments (for the total life of Friendfeed). Might be interesting.
- Sean McBride
I deleted 700+ people just two weeks ago and it was the most FUN I have had on Twitter in 6 months.
- Daniel Zarick
the one unfollow everyone help him to promote is business and push all follower to create a buzz , and decide when he have acheive is target , just take himself as Guru but in fact that will return straight on his face , he will kick out by the community .....
- Yann
from twhirl
[∞][twitter needs to make an second time line to US [...] so, we got one to friends and other to network ][ I have 2 accounts to do this]
- dbalieiro
Similar to the concept of declaring e-mail bankruptcy.
- David Pappas
Then it becomes a broadcast, not an exchange. How about unfollow everyone that doesn't add value to your life.
- Martha
Wow, that is interesting timing. Is it spring cleaning time for everyone or what?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
At least once a week I go through several pages of twitter stream and take a look at everyone on it. I end up unfollowing at least five or six people. I still have hundreds, but it's much less than I would otherwise.
- Sandra Fernandez
as for me, good reasons for unfollowing are ppl following you then unfollowing you immediately, or people not posting in ages, or people where after a while you see having absolutely no exchange on any subject or no common interest. I try to keep my following list clear under these criteria to avoid a bloated following list
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
i prune my list every few weeks and add and delete, keeps it fresher
- susan mernit
I only follow a few people anyway. The "follow everyone you don't know" thing always seemed crazy to me.
- TranceMist
I have no plans of unfollowing any of the people I follow. My setup fits my marketing strategy just fine.. Don't need to jump on the bandwagon. That's the beauty of twitter... do what works for you!!
- Jim Turner
The best tool I've found for getting the most out of twitter is Tweetdeck. Set up groups to stay on top of the conversations generated by the folks you're the closest to.
- Jim Turner
I do a combination of things. I've always been selective about who I follow; if anyone gets to noisy I unfollow them; I filter it through my FriendFeed; I have specific lists set-up in Friend-Feed (even one for "chatter"); I grab the rss feeds for the Friend-Feed lists I want to focus on and have those directly imported into the RSS feed section of my email client (Thunderbird at the moment.) My email feeds have folders and message filtering rules set-up to move everything to the appropriate sub-folders.
- Gail Guy
... I can then quickly identify and scan my favorites, but best of all, I can use my email client functions to "tag" a message a certain color or "star" it as a favorite -- making it easy to find and review at a later time.
- Gail Guy
I think this is brilliant. Curbs the spammers, takes away some incentive from the fakes and keeps Twitter honest. More of my thoughts http://tr.im/gMZ8
- Chris Leonard
As soon as I got Tweetdeck I started following by subject instead of by the person.
- Carl Pruitt
"David Duchovny has entered a rehabilitation center for sex addiction, his lawyer, Stanton "Larry" Stein, tells PEOPLE exclusively. "I have voluntarily entered a facility for the treatment of sex addiction," the actor says in an exclusive statement. "I ask for respect and privacy for my wife and children as we deal with this situation as a family."" People Magazine, go figure.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Bree Sharp had a bunch of other songs. She's got 3 albums or so if memory serves correct, I've got them all, really great stuff although none of it ever popular.
- Thomas Hawk
No wonder he was so great in Californication!
- Stephen Terlizzi
purple diamond ... how many carats (not nice but maybe it is a different color as well)
- Scott Moskowitz
wow...i wonder if they wrote californication just for him? very interesting....and sad.
- sean808080
Hey, if I had been hanging out with Skully for all those years in a purely platonic relationship, I would have some serious problems too :)
- jcunwired
If I was addicted to sex, I would go to a centre full of other people addicted to sex. Imagine what happens there, at night once the hall monitors stop patrolling!! It would be worse than school camp!
- CJPhoto
Talk about a shot across the bow the day after the DNC...instantly turned the news right back around to the GOP...even NPR switched mid stream from Obama worship to talking GOP...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
But how long will the focus stay on the GOP?
- Mark Wilson
Yeah but that's not the plan here...as soon as the GOP can turn the nation back from Obama to McCain, the better it is for their candidate. I mean if it's a just another re-tread Washington insider (ahem, Biden) then the bounce is small...but this DEMANDS the press looking into her...that means less air time for Obama...I'm not saying its the right move, but it sure was a shrewd move by the McCain campaign...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Wow, bold move. This might be the first smart move made by the McCain campaign.
- cjmart
@Live4Soccer. Good point about the press devoting time to her. Any ideas what Obama's next move will be?
- Mark Wilson
it's pretty much just the reverse choice of Obama. Obama is a dynamic outsider and picked an experienced insider. McCain is an experienced insider who picked a dynamic outsider.
- Stefan Hayden
She seems to have a pretty conservative track record. Always a good attack point. A woman who doesn't stand up for woman's rights.
- Stefan Hayden
@Mark...not sure what the Dems can do in the short term...they're done with their convention and they have their VP...I think the best they can hope for is that someone has some nude pictures of Sarah or a sex tape...short of that, it will take some time to knock them off the perch...especially heading into their convention...the press was all ready gearing up to cover it. I'm less interested in the candidates than I am the strategy...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
@Stefan...oh I'm sure she has plenty to attack and I'm sure Obama's camp will find those points but they really can't get started in on her until AFTER the GOP convention when we start heading into the debates...I mean how ON EARTH do you prepare to debate an unknown? There's miles of tape on Biden but on Sarah? What if she turns out to be a great speaker and charming as all get out? It really is funny how the outsider picked the insider and then the insider picked an outsider...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Gutsy move by McCain. May have just won himself the presidency contrasting Obama's obvious disrepect of Hillary Clinton and the 18 million voters who supported her.
- Stephen Terlizzi
I'm listening to 810 KGO (SF), they said that someone in the Obama camp, spoke on the condition anonymity so that they wouldn't preempt an SMS promised in the morning.
- Phillip Jeffrey
dangit I was feelin that Bloomberg buzz
- Marko Bon
I've always liked Biden. He's a more authentic renegade than McCain as well.
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
Biden if true is a poor choice in my opinion. He's made so many campaign gaffs in the past. It's been painful to watch him. He has the tenure but he doesn't have the composure for presidential campaigns... its been shown over and over again.
- Jim Goldstein
Well I guess we'll know for sure when whoever shows up with Obama at the press conference tomorrow.
- Alex Scoble
In the meantime, have fun counting all the threads on Friendfeed, Twitter and elsewhere talking about that.
- Alex Scoble
Could this possibly be a preliminary announcement to see / hear the public's reaction? Obama's indecisiveness = UGH
- Mona Nomura
If this isn't true, it's the biggest prank in American history.
- Alex Scoble
If it is true, it's amazing that it went this long without getting leaked.
- Alex Scoble
Mona - beta selection of the VP, in web 2.0 fashion?
- Hutch Carpenter
Be the first to know. Right after the Associated Press, CNN, and the Secret Service.
- Chris Baskind
Wow, I've been reading comments on news sites, the Hillary supporters are pissed! "Obama wronged us!" "Obama hates women!". Sheesh. Had Bill stepped up and actually endorsed his party's nomination, things may have been different. So now they will all vote McCain, and will wonder in 2012 why Hillary has no support.
- jcunwired
I can't imagine the Hillary supporters are serious about voting McCain.
- Hutch Carpenter
It will get real interesting for Hillary supporters if McCain choses Meg Whitman as Veep
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
LOL. Biden has a tragic flaw - he often says what he's actually thinking.
- Rob Sterling
McCain has similar blunt-talking, foreign policy experience to Biden. McCain has to find his Obama.
- Hutch Carpenter
An Obama/Biden ticket feels like the Bush/Quayle ticket but reversed.
- Stephen Terlizzi
Joe Biden? Are you kidding me? Jeez...talk about the wind being sucked out of the sails...same old, same old...no matter how "fresh and vibrant" a candidate might start out as, as soon as their Party gets a hold of them, they manage to turn them right back into the political cookie cutter machine...America, meet your new "Cheney"..sad
- Live4Emma (L4S)
@Live4Soccer - look into Obama's Chicago history - he wasn't ever "fresh" really. He made shady land deals, pushed money to organizations that supported him, associated with some really extreme leftists and played pretty dirty in a few elections. Then when you see the sort of things pulled in the primary you see he is a pure Chicago style political hack. Biden is perfect for him :)
- Soulhuntre
Biden's not corrupt as far as I know, he's just sort of retarded.
- Rob Sterling
In a race between Obama and McCain, you're going to paint Obama as the corrupt one? Look up "Keating Five". What a joke.
- Jason Carreira
The conversational-centric-ness is making Friendfeed a pretty noisy place. I'm still trying to get use to the noise. On Twitter, it's like streams of silent messages; pretty much 'In space, no one can hear you scream'. On Friendfeed, it's like being in a bar on a Saturday night!
- Yung-Hui Lim
I'll continue to use both - FF is quite nice for other reasons, and when Twitter goes down, it's still up.
- Dossy Shiobara
Twitter is the Cliff Notes of Friendfeed. Quick and easy & you get the gist.
- Stephen Terlizzi
For me, it's like friends with benefits and evaporates when my true love returns.
- Francine Hardaway
FF is like digg with a twist. And you know who the people commenting on your posts. Well. most of the time. Would be nice to get a mobile widget of FF like Tinytwitter. Maybe there's one that I don't know about.
- Carolyn Chan
Twitter is like a topping on FriendFeed's pizza. Everybody loves pizza. Not everybody agrees on toppings.
- Louis Gray
FF is the Killer! It centralizes discussions and lets things bubble up to the surface! Everything is Transparent!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Twitter is my Best Friend... Friend Feed is my Book Club... there's more 'deep conversation' over here - but I don't always want every conversation to either be non-existent or terribly deep. Sometimes I just want to twitter like a little bird.
- Lucretia Pruitt
they're becoming complementary tools for me
- .LAG liked that
I'm starting to get annoyed by the repetition of things here, i.e., if Louis Gray shares an item on Google Reader, then over the course of the day 10 or 15 other people share the same item (or Digg, Stumble, etc.). The comments fragment, and the number of items to browse through multiply.
- Kirk Kittell
However, I like both Twitter and FriendFeed. They're different tools for me, and generally reach different subsets of people.
- Kirk Kittell
I like FF - I love Twitter - FF needs to be organized differently, I think - it doesn't have the right logical setup for me
- Renee Hendricks
I'm a newbie on FF. I have twhirl configured to show FF side by side with Twitter. I like the conversational aspect of FF, the ticker-tape-like stream of thought of Twitter.
- Mark Dixon
from twhirl
I'm sure people will complain about twitter when it fails to work, but when they manage to kick themselves and make it work, people will flock back. Twitter can't be beat imo for mobile interaction, or to track things of interest, but both of these are down, so it has no value for me. As I said on my blog I quit twitter so if it works I'm happy but if it doesn't pan out I'm not disappointed
- BCK
Dave looks like Loren still has a Love affair with you! What did you do to the guy?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Actually, who cares. Everything is a summer love. Some summers happen to be longer than others. So, excuse me but there's really nothing intellectual to discuss here as in which is better. Don't like it, don't use it. Simple.
- Carolyn Chan
I use Twitter and Google Reader to find interesting articles to send to FriendFeed.
- Elizabeth
I just posted something to Twtiter, first time in over a day. Still on FF though :-)
- Duncan Riley
I like FF! Once you get a set of people around you who do not try to inflate their Egos and show how great they are, it is really a cool place! We just share ideas! Dave am I on topic? LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I use FF most of the time. I post messages to Twitter, but that's because they get sent to FF anyway. Better discussion in FF.
- David Sim
Men probably weigh more than women. Everyone has a different body type. I just don't see how this could possibly be done without discriminating against someone.
- dbcohen
@Dave, I don't see how anything can be done without discriminating against someone.
- Victor Ryden
Obviously this guy has never had to struggle with weight before. I can't imagine how embarassing it would be to step on a scale and have my weight potentially displayed to strangers and then be "charged by the pound". That would be humiliating and I would probably avoid air travel when at all possible. If they wanted to cut down on weight they could let us actually take all our toiletries as carry-ons so we wouldn't have to check a bag and figure if we're checking one anyway we might as well fill it up.
- Lindsay
well, I guess it's only fair -- heavy people already pay more for clothes (more fabric), more for beer (higher metabolism), and more for gas in their own cars (same reason as article states)
- Pete Delucchi
another huge private info array for DHS and crowd ;)
- A.T.
What Lindsay said. Someone's going to get sued.
- Helen Sventitsky
Well airlines are starting to charge for extra baggage (no pun intended) and now limiting to one carry on, one check in. For someone who moves and travels as much as me, that's not acceptable. Anything to lessen a fare kick up I'm all for.
- Mona Nomura
It is always so comforting to be seen as an amalgam of parts, fat, muscle, sinew, rather than what we are...a human being. Talk about destroying basic human dignities. Sheesh! What's next? Charging by the amount of oxygen we consume? Just about as nice.
- Douglas E. Welch
from twhirl
seems like it would be tough to figure out a pricing structure that would be foolproof. What if you had a planeload of midgets? Would you end up losing money?
- Nathan Rein
Are the airlines going to provide the properly proportioned seats for their customers or still wedge them into absurdly small spaces?
- Stephen Terlizzi
The problem would be you dont know what the cost of the flight would be before you step on the scales at check in. Without certainty, people wont book.
- CJPhoto
Lindsay: If memory serves, Zawodny was pretty hefty at one point and lost the weight. Unfortunately, he seems to have taken a path similar to that of some ex-smokers, who suddenly decide that anyone left on the other side of the river can suck it.
- Roger Benningfield
Let's face it - weight is a huge factor in determining what it costs to get somehting up int he air. Why woudln't it effect the price?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
The only way they could really get away with it would be to use a tiered system, and of course, include luggage. <100kg is $; 100-200kg is $$, 200-300kg is $$$, > 300kg is $$$$
- xero
no-no-no, no bloody tiers - every kilo/pound shall go measured and paid: oil peak is closer than one might think ;)
- A.T.
Evernote is a cool app. I replaced One Note with it. Definitely worth it.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Hearing lots of raves - testing it today on 2 macs and the iPhone.
- Steve Isaacs
Yes, it is very cool - hasn't quite got the polish of OneNote yet, but it's the strongest competitor so far
- Andrew Terry
It seems to load faster then onenote and it doesn't have a little background app running. there's some tweaks to the interface that would be nice (like when your searching for something) but @Andrew Terry is right, it's close and good enough for me. it'll get better i'm sure.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Scob- you need more interviews with games/interactive entertainment companies. 48 billion being spent next year according to PWC. Where's the love?
- Ryan
I was a band geek, very creative, in Jazz, and very social. Got into trouble as a senior, broke a heart, had mine broken in return. I always though I'd be an architect, the internet was barely in the back of my mind, let alone the front.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I was a total geek in high school, and had a very very close circle of a few friends. I still have those friends, and am still pretty geeky, but have found my social side, which has helped me get to where I am.
- Michel Savoie
Quiet, not very sociable. Was never with the "in crowd". Somewhat of a geek, but more of a pre-computer era geek. Had plans to be a naval architect because my Dad was one, but that never panned out. Now I'm a Software QA Specialist for a global high-tech software corporation. Never would have predicted where I am today.
- Scott
I was a major geek. Do you remember that guy who got called to the principal's office to reset his digital watch every time DST began or ended? That was me. I could solve a Rubik's cube in just under a minute. And I played offensive guard on the football team. I always knew I'd be doing computer stuff, but I had no idea where it would take me. Didn't even hear about the internet until my first Unix class in college.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
I was a total band geek (trumpet) as well. Sr. year, Youth Orchestra, Symphonic Band, Concert Band, Jazz Band and music theory. My favorite part (still) is improvisation. However, tech is my other passion and that's the direction I went.
- Ben Thomas
Class clown. Wanted to be Stephen King. Turned out to be a rodent who writes.
- Sprague D
Can't describe myself in H.S. - I was too complex then. Yes, in some ways and No in others. I expected not to have to stay in the box I kept get putting in by my adolescent peers - and that came true. But the rest of my life is and has always been an unpredictable adventure.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Trumpet player and band geek champion. Artsy fartsy and theater dweeb. Always drawing on my notes and folders rather than paying attention in class. Didn't much care for the majority of my classmates but was lucky enough to be left alone by the bullies and jocks. Had no idea what I wanted to do in life but always trusted my gut and listened to my heart. Don't think I ever expected to be...
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- David Murray
Lots of trumpet players, me Trombone, low brass section leader
- Jeremiah Owyang
When I look back at high school, I can't believe how eccentric I already was. Sure, a lot of it was typical teenage posing but some of it was astonishingly strange even then. I had always expected to pretty much be where I am now although I expected it to have happened sooner. The only thing I've not yet done is to have become a published author. It's been my lifelong dream since first grade that's constantly been the victim relegated by transient hobbies and computer programming. Need to get back on track.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I was fat but somehow one of the "popular" crowd, though I never felt like I belonged there...or anywhere. I was nicknamed Encyclopedia or Britannica. I was good at making people laugh, and used that as my primary survival skill. I had a horrendous home life, and always was desperate to escape. I hoped that I'd travel and live in other worlds, maybe even expected to. I am always amazed and glad that that's exactly what I am doing. Every day, I am astonished to be where I am. Very blessed.
- Jackie Danicki
I was a computer geek then and I still am now :-)
- Jason Herald
I was Gravy Dave, started an underground newspaper, led student strikes, smoked a lot of reefer and did lots of other drugs. Participated in student govt, ran for class president (lost), held a big rock concert, dropped out, went back, managed to get a bit of education in all that. It was a funny time, late 60s early 70s, that's actually the kind of stuff people were doing then, if you can believe it. Had my own apartment too. Got in a lot of trouble and made a bunch. I was one of the in crowd an a-lister.
- Dave Winer
In High School I was a Band nerd, Dungeons and Dragons nerd and generally shunned by nearly everyone. I was fortunate enough to have a few close friends, but high school was mostly a nightmare. I didn't really begin to become the person I am today until I decided in college that it was high time to have a girl friend and start a grown-up life. Back in high school I never would have thought I'd be a programmer today living in a nice house with a pool married to a beautiful nerdy woman.
- Internet's Tad
I was a total theater geek and bookish nerd ... and while career-wise the place I am now bears no resemblance to anything I'd imagined, from what I've been told by folks who've known me since I was a mere pup, I'm not all that different. Once a geeky-nerd ... always a geeky-nerd, I think ... and proud of it too!
- Cathy Brooks
I was very much a NON-techie and never imagined that I would someday "grow-up" to recruit technologists. I was pretty active in virtually every imagineable activity in school...played tennis for the school team, part of the weight-lifting team, Student Gov. VP in my Senior year. I had lots of friends and tended to mingle with a fairly eccletic crowd. I entered college, and pretty much replicated what I had accomplished in HS,...VP of SGA, Pres. of my Fraternity, etc. Life turned out good for me.
- Michael
Jeremiah, the funny thing is if you had told me I'd ever do anytihng with computers I'd have laughed. I really looked down on the kids who hung out in the computer lab at the school (we actually had one, even then). Never in a million years would I have guessed I'd go down that path.
- Dave Winer
Big athlete, smart but only top 20% student in class rank (put in some effort, kid!). Voracious reader, especially SciFi and Fantasy. Thought my career would take me toward sales or banking/business, but it turned out it took me right back to public education.
- BISQ
I probably do need to add that I was the only girl in Computer Club in high school tho - back then, I was a serious anomaly.
- Lucretia Pruitt
I think I'm the same now as I was in high school. I won "best personality" which is to say - I'm nice and can be a bit of a push-over. I just want other people to be happy. I never thought of myself as technical at all. I didn't start getting into tech until I worked at Wired.com. In fact, in high school I never would have thought I'd be into journalism. I got into that at UC Berkeley while majoring in philosophy.
- David Cohn
This one time at Band Camp... Actually I wasn't in the Band, but worse the War Games club. Fortunately, though I was in the nerd section, I hung out with the Football team and got to be in the "in crowd".
- Stephen Terlizzi
@davewiner I'm not sure it has anything to do with computers, just an independent spirit we've come to enjoy from you.
- Jeremiah Owyang
. academics nerd. excelled in English, history, philosophy, was on school newspaper , nights/weekend job at dept store as sales, model & stylist, eclectic fashionista that was outside current HS style. totally not in the right spot. HS was *boring*.. I hung out with friends who were 5-10 years older. went to big univ & didn't follow my dream-- but am now.
- Stevie
In high school I was a nerd. I loved technology and I love literature so it made sense that I would be involved in the Web with my writing. I was in high school in the mid nineties but I was one of the few kids with my own site and it was a poetry/literature site to boot. I never would have guessed that I would be doing plagiarism work, I had always seen myself as a future author, but I knew my future would involve the Web and writing in some way...
- Jonathan Bailey
School always got in the way of my education. I played football and helped establish radio station WJSV-FM
- paul mooney
Kinda disappointing, I don't see any of my friends from high school anymore. I never had a lot of friends, but we kinda split up after graduation.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
Moderately accepted, but usually on the outside looking in. Moved around quite a bit back then, so didn't establish serious connections until late HS. Comic book geek, skinny with doofy glasses. Didn't care much for the "popular" crowd (though some were seriously cute) and eagerly awaited graduation and exodus. Did end up meeting my wife in HS and that was good! Thought of being an architect; improved upon that by becoming a Landscape Architect. :-)
- JA Castillo
Complete geek, stuck the deep south. Played in a local metal band. Got out as soon as I turned 18, never looked back.
- Neal Jansons
I'm commenting since I am still in high school. I'm on our band (includes marching and concert) in addition to jazz band and performed in the pit for Beauty and the Beast last year. I'm friends with the popular and unpopular kids and my best friend is a popular kid. I can (apparently) make people laugh and listen well. To be honest, I don't know what people see in me because I think I'm pretty boring most of the time. Life's a mystery. You just have to roll with it.
- Zach Flauaus
Attended high school for smarty/arty kids (no sports) & then performing arts school for theater. Lots of good friends, parties, etc. Thought I'd be an actress/singer very involved in politics. Not surprised I wound up in film production & now multimedia, but wound up on the corporate side of it by falling ass over teacups and finding I liked where I'd landed. That the corporation has anything to do with IT continues to amuse me on a daily basis as I'm lucky to get my laptop in the 'on' position.
- dfugate
Fat, shy, too smart for my own good with an unlikely group of friends made up of gay kids, straight kids, questioning kids, black kids, white kids, asian kids (and various mixtures of the three). In ROTC, secretly really into ROTC, and a fiendish facility with foreign languages. Was in Spanish Club, Latin Club, on the yearbook and newspaper staffs. Except for the ROTC part (though I still wish I'd gone into the Marines), and the clubs, I'm still pretty much the same.
- cecily
The answers here were fun to read. Not sure about the etiquette for commenting on friendfeed. I just do it when something is interesting even if I don't know the person. So my apologies if doing so is out of line. In high school I was pretty much the same in that regard. Much better at asking forgiveness than permission. The former provides so much opportunity for practice. I fully expected that I would be dead before now, but people are so forgiving!
- Boo
Harvey Simmons, if I'd known you in high school I would've had a huge crush on you. Football player and a geek? Be still my heart.
- cecily
High geek factor, although at the time (1985-1991) not because of computer skills, just the looks ;-) Nothing special during my high school years, better than average student, although I did not have much trouble getting the right grades. Spent all of my high school years playing competitive snooker, so I did not party, practiced and played tournaments each weekend. Did a lot of catching up in later years ;-)
- Marc Dierens
I was expecting to be a bit further down the line, but the path has never changed
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
interesting thread - i split my high school years between hawaii where i played football and tennis for the school and surfed ever swell & upstate new york where i played football & hockey and hung out w/ the physic geeks who were all musicians (i was not) - i had good grades, sat etc... & took classes at local college while still in hs, also hung out in their comp lab - mainframe w/ punch cards - i was an enigma, still am ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Hmmm.... high school... I was "different", that's for sure. I wasn't in any clicks, but I was always invertently starting new trends. I never really had any expectations as to where I would be in 20 years, but I didn't expect to have been a world traveler, nor hold down some of the jobs I've had. It's been an interesting ride!
- Dominique
Harvey-one of the names for cilantro is "Chinese parsley" and the Brits call it coriander.
- Mark Forman
Mark: I did not know about Chinese parsley. Coriander I knew about. In fact, I think it's the leaves of the coriander plant.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
In nyc i saw a kung pao burrito =( and it's parsley. it doesn't have cilantro scent!
- Mona Nomura
Here's what I need: Fast, works on existing directories (no iPhoto style import), easy to delete photos I don't want, simple color correction + cropping, and very fast. Very nice to have would be the ability to upload to Smugmug or Google, basic video stuff (time crop), video re-encoding (my camera saves videos as mjpeg for some reason).
- Paul Buchheit
Aperture is the primary professional, and most excellent application for OSX. It is worth the money, it is not iPhoto. It is easy to use, and you are likely to not want to use anything else.
- iSteeve
I don't need anything fancy, just fast and able to handle a good number of photos. Picasa is pretty close -- I wish they would just make a Mac version (and improve the color correction and video abilities).
- Paul Buchheit
I only know of, aperture, lightroom, photon & the apps that comes with phanfare.com, flickr & smugmug
- Zee.
Closest to meeting all of your requirements used to be iView. Not sure if that's still true. I bailed on it after Microsoft bought it and renamed it Expression Media. http://www.microsoft.com/express.... I use Aperture now.
- Jack Baty
Files can remain in the directory in which they reside. They do not have to be imported into the library, although that makes it easier for backup. A free trial might is available at: http://www.apple.com/apertur... . It more than adequately meets your criteria for photos, but does not deal with video, which it will back up to your chosen directory. You can readily move them, put them on an external HD, etc. Lightroom is an alternative.
- iSteeve
I switch to my Windows machine and use Picasa for photos.
- Amit Patel
The problem with a lot of these photo organizers is that they want to own your world, but that's not what I want. I'm going to upload the photos to one or two places, copy them to other computers, etc. Having them stuck in some weird system on one computer is not ok. That's why working with the actual filesystem directory structure is important.
- Paul Buchheit
how about using expandrive and hosting all your photos on on a separate server and then using one of the many photo editors to edit them on your desktop?
- Zee.
man, it sounds like we're looking for the same thing. iPhoto sucks.
- Brett Kelly
iView is what professional photojournalists use. I would have a look at that if I were you. I'm pretty sure MS is still keeping the Mac version of it.
- Gabe
Still using iView for now. It sounds like the newer Expression Media has had less than positive reviews. I have over 30,000 pictures in various catalogs and it works nicely. It did take a while to figure out a workflow that works for me but I had somewhat of an advantage since I had to design filesystem layouts previously. Extensis is an another option. If you care about IPTC or GPS EXIF, some hackery will be required as the different tools have different levels of support.
- Jauder Ho
i like both aperture and lightroom. lightroom gives me better-looking photos though aperture is a little easier to use. at least i find that to be the case
- Cee Bee
I use Lightroom, and that's what I'd recommend. If you don't want to spend any money, you might want to check out blueMarine (http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/). I've only played around with it for a few minutes, but I see it has potential, and it seems like it'd be just fine for the items you mentioned.
- donato
@Donato Cool.. I haven't seen this before.. :) @Paul I was looking for something like this in the past. What I wanted was a photo browsing application with Tagging and the ability to browse what you already have. I've ended up settling for Lightroom, but it's still sort of an overkill and it's RAW features are not useful for an amateur photographer like me. I'm really interested in what you find out from these comments heheh.
- Chris Chua
Maybe I need to write my own. Does AIR have the necessary capabilities for this kind of thing?
- Paul Buchheit
chris - i agree. Leopard finder and photoshop are the best solution until Google brings Picasa to Mac
- Jared Radosevich
Chris, does the leopard finder show the photo full size, or do I have to open a separate program for that? Also, I don't have leopard.
- Paul Buchheit
@Chris, you can Delete from Preview. @Paul: you can't show the photo full size in finder, you'd need to open with a separate program.
- David Vasileff
I use Xee, http://wakaba.c3.cx/s... it aspires to be what Paul is looking for I think, but it doesn't do color correction, but you can hotkey to an editor of your choice, including Preview, which does color correction. Xee is free and there's source code available, too.
- David Vasileff
we might see a mac version of picasa this year. Adobe elements is a $100 alternative to iPhoto. I have used it. Works good but a very heavy tool.
- pankaj
I mentioned blueMarine the other day, but just found http://www.photonator.com/ a few minutes ago - then remembered your query and posted 'er back here. You're not subscribed to me, but that doesn't mean that I can't help. ;)
- l0ckergn0me
Chris, Preview Edit menu has move selected image to trash menu item or command-delete shortcut. it deletes and closes the window if you have a single image open.
- David Vasileff
Picasa is the only reason I still turn my PC on... Are they going to make a Mac version any time soon? Otherwise it's time to write one.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
i second aperture... im still learning it, but it has keyword capability, rating etc... excellent... i learn something new on it everyday
- Rob Reed
Picasa was the reason I reformatted my Mac into a windows machine. Nothing else comes close.
- Piaw Na
Java Jive in Tacoma, WA - shaped like a coffee pot and highly retro. Keanu & River filmed there in the 90's "I love you to death"
- Cheryl Allin
The Baldwinsville Diner in Baldwinsville, NY (outside of Syracuse, NY)
- George Smith
Chris just ate there last week, Robert, and said I had to check it out...good veg options
- Elisa Camahort Page
When I lived in downtown Charleston, SC I would frequent this place called Norm's several nights a week (it was a two-block walk from my house). Great food, everybody knows me in there. I still go, just less often now that I've moved 15 minutes away (and parking is a hassle downtown).
- Jared Smith
Habibi Snack, Lebanese, Porte Saint Cloud, Paris -- outstanding beef sausage, much better than Noura & Al Dar
- William, CPU Media
I love it. The cashier talks to us about our iPhones and says he is getting the 3G on Friday. There also is a Yelp sticker in the window.
- Robert Scoble
Elisa: my brother-in-law has been coming here for decades and says there is always a line.
- Robert Scoble
That Falafel place has been there for at least 25 years and is among my favorites. What are you doing, going from 1 locals eatery to the next today?
- shelisrael1
Hard choices for best: there's a great restaurant on the access road in Glacier Park in Montana, or Latitude 66(I think) in Oxford, Md behind a gas station, those come to mind
- clarke thomas
from fftogo
Little Dewie's BBQ in Starkville, MS or The Red Planet Diner in Sedona, AZ
- Internet's Tad
1. El Paseo in Mill Valley. Still very low key French Restaurant run by award winning five star Japanese chefs. Go before it's ruined by Yelpers. Price Fixe menu has wine pairing and is reasonably priced.
- Mona Nomura
Shel: it opened in 1966. This is my first time. It is awesome.
- Robert Scoble
Gates BBQ in Kansas City - It's not EXACTLY a hole-in-the-wall, but since it's had health code issues in the past it counts.
- James O'Malley
from twhirl
2. Crif-dog (not really hole in the wall) in the East Village, NYC. It's tad of a walk from Astor so there are more locals than tourists. The hot dogs have a bite to the casing. AND they have tater tots, Space Invaders ARCADE. It's all sorts of awesome.
- Mona Nomura
Favorite here in Denver is Queen of Sheba - best Ethiopian restaurant ever. Period. I've been to a lot of them. Zhodi's QofS dominates.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Little Havana Sandwich Shop in atlanta or the greasetrucks on Rutgers campus in NJ
- joshuabacker
3. Halal truck on Exchange Place and Broad St (Wall Street) The lunchtime rush for this truck is INSANE. The line extends around the block. MUCH better than the tourist attraction 'infamous' truck near Rockefeller Center
- Mona Nomura
Pete it is south of Valley Fair Mall by a few blocks. Corner of Stevens Creek and Revey Av.
- Robert Scoble
4. M's Cafe in the inner sunset, on 9th b/w Irving and Judah. Only open for breakfast and lunch. Their grilled ham and cheese sandwich has REAL ham. As in Canadian Bacon. And the french fries are criss cut too. All for 5.95. yes please
- Mona Nomura
This little tiny hole called "Istanbul" on Hollywood Beach (Florida). Best food and, awesome people too.
- Candace
Woofies, the home of the Dignified Hot Dog in St Louis
- Dave Ploch
le refuge in alexandria, va (great french food, best chocolate creme brulee ever): havana in walnut creek, ca (really nice cuban place, super mojitos): stratford court cafe in del mar, ca (outside deck, really good sandwiches)
- AJ Kohn
Bad Question when I'm hungry! I'll say any of Portland, Oregon's "Stanich's" Great burgers, fries, and beers. No fuss, no hassles!
- Christopher Harley
@James O'Malley: Just off King, on N. Washington. I haven't been there in years but it was a huge find when I lived in Crystal City. http://www.lerefugealexandria.com/
- AJ Kohn
@AJ Kohn: Cool thanks, I'll check it out when I move back to Arlington.
- James O'Malley
from twhirl
gojo Ethiopian in Nashville is great stuff. The owner/server/host is a blast.
- Andrew
Robert -- if it is the one about a mile east of Valley Fair, then, yes, I agree it is excellent. If you are at another one, then I want to know which one you visited.
- Jerry Chacon
okay, last time. I forgot all my emeryville haunts: Bakesale Betty's in Oakland (great friend chicken sandwhich, not greasy! - Chez Panisse migrants, excellent desserts); Townhouse Bar and Grill in Emeryville (looks like a rat trap from the outside but is quite amazing, Bradley Ogden type food) and Vic's in Berkeley (great Indian food in a odd cavernous cafeteria like warehouse)
- AJ Kohn
Toronto: Gandhi's Roti, Queens St W (indian Carribean), Yuh Tang on Elizabeth St (Chinese)
- Kamath (नमः)
from twhirl
Toronto: Gandhi's Roti on Queens St W, Yuh Tang on Elizabeth & Dundas, There's also a soup-filled dumpling place in China Town (Spadina) that I think is amazing but can't remember the name.
- Kamath (नमः)
from twhirl
Art's Cafe on Irving and 9th in the inner Sunset
- Vera Yu
Robert: did you hit Stacey's in Gallatin Gateway, MT when you visited?
- Tim Connors
Wow, I have a lot of cool places to try. Tim, nope, never got there.
- Robert Scoble
In Phoenix, my favorite is Chino Bandido, a blend of Mexican and Chinese (you must try the Jade Red Chicken). We (Tad and I) also love this Korean BBQ place in Chandler called Hodori. Worth the hour drive from our house every now and then.
- Lindsay
Hugo's in Fayetteville, AR (would second @Fred Neil's vote for the Shack if I still lived in Playa)
- Don Faulkner
ha. friendfeed comment sections are beginning to be as funny as the reddit comment sections. hmmm...probably just all the same users.
- mike
from twhirl
Possibly. And other clones have come along. But with identi.ca I have *never* seen such a rush of Twitter faithful to a new clone. We. Are. Frustrated. ;-(
- Barbara K. Baker
they might fall apart but its where everyone built their networks, no way to export all the friends, the conversations. you can emulate some of the more active relationships when you move to a new network but the piecemeal people get left behind. twitter is special
- Paul Rj Muller
from twhirl
Yes Friendster indeed ... and MySpace swept in and cleaned up the pieces, just as FriendFeed looks poised to do ...
- Mark Jeffrey
Tires and factories. I know it's not Akron, but when I hear an Ohio city that isn't Cincinnati, Cleveland or Columbus, I think tires and factories.
- Chris Reed
I think of Bicycles, actually, since that's what the Wright Brothers did there.
- Ivan
from fftogo
Wright Bros, then Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
- Ken Sheppardson
Wright Brothers - NEC typewriters - Marianists @ Univ. of Dayton - I-75 - Great minor league baseball - Bob Dylan *always* does concerts there and not in Cincinnati - oh, did I mention it's the town just north of me?
- Barbara K. Baker
The "Dayton Hop" this dance that I did in high school that I learned from my friend's brother who went to U of Dayton
- Cathleen Rittereiser
I just realized that I have never before consciously thought about Dayton, OH.
- Taper Wickel
from Alert Thingy
My cousins, who grew up there. And the band the Breeders, who are from there. And of course, the Wright Bros.
- Kerim Friedman
from twhirl
I remember traveling there with my dad when I was 8, going to the Aeronautical Museum, and totally losing it crying at a restaurant after, scaring the crap out of this Dolly Parton looking waitress.
- Paul Smith
Two frieds of mine who were from there.
- Jeremy Brooks
And I could have had that, Steve, I went for iSteeve to stay consistent. Enjoy! ( I also like those one letter pages, like "S" but don't have any.
- iSteeve
Elderly grad student and open source contributor. Don't know if I can call either of those jobs though :)
- Michael C. Harris
Manager of IT Project Management for Nelnet Enrollment Solutions (CUnet.com office in Rochester, NY). Primary work involves "IT Infrastructure Integration" management of all projects for http://CUnet.com and http://Petersons.com = FUN! Also, I am the VP of Information Technology for http://PMIRochester.org
- Susan Beebe
Designer/developer at Avenue A | Razorfish
- Dominik Hofmann
Blogger for b5media, Cell Phone Signal, and set up websites for businesses. Also a junior in high school.
- Zach Flauaus
Senior managing editor at a medical certification board
- Linda Mills
Web Developer at http://www.wego.com which is a travel meta search engine. My current project is to build an analytics application for internal use, analogous to Google Analytics. Right now, I program mainly with Ruby.
- Winston Teo
Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares
- Charlie Anzman
I am an RN in theatre but I am about to start a Geek job associated with nursing next Monday - then I have the second job doing the odd website and management and my own podcast and anything else that comes along
- Dave Gray
from twhirl
Independent Game Developer/ College Sophomore - the two fit together nicely :P
- Sean Dunn
code reader, college student as a computer science major...
- Caroline
I help large government organizations figure out how to spend taxpayer money on technology.
- Chris Hollander
VP, Marketing at Caring.com, Online Marketing, SEO/SEM Strategist and Tactician.
- AJ Kohn
Old media reporter, New media bridge-builder, student of both computer and legal code.
- Andrew Feinberg
Web Producer for The X PRIZE Foundation. I basically manage all of their web properties (mostly on Drupal) as well as 3rd party web services.
- Mark Krynsky
Russel for sure, It's very interesting to see what our fellow Friendfeeders do in there day job. A great thread for meetting new contacts as well, definitely agree.
- Mike Fruchter
Formerly, a social media specialist at google. Currently, enjoying an extended summer vacation and hoping when I'm 80 years old I'm still not calling myself an ex-googler.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Pharma and biotech marketing consultant, science and cancer geek
- Sally Church
@Charlie "Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares " Your salary just increased!
- Mike Fruchter
low-level fraud detection job at a very large bank. I might link this to my earlier lamentations about this job... here's that link http://friendfeed.com/e... feel free to add more to that, though I did get plenty of good feedback back then.
- Kamilah Gill
Garbage Man, Brooklyn New York - work the Greenpoint-Lorimer route. Ok, kidding, but I wanted to break up the monotony of design/tech jobs;) I'm a Creative Director at an interactive advertising/marketing agency.
- Steve Isaacs