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@hardaway @stevegillmor @TinaGillmor Nash was interesting for an alternate view. Neil Young's was profound in its persistence and vision
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Hi Res Test Card :-) - Ian Waring
Yo! - Ian Waring
hello - Kevin Marks
if you can really see the zone plates something is going on - Kevin Marks
Hey @Kevin, do you have a link to the Wired article you referenced from last weeks show? I couldn't find anything resembling the mention on the Wired site... - J.C. Bouvier
what was I talking about - Kevin Marks
UK Cat present - Ian Waring
wired article about what, JC - Kevin Marks
Sorry - England Cat present - Ian Waring
Tina: Pool boy in the house? - Alex de Soto
some other tech news. Samsung bought smarthings - Chris Hale
anything else? - Kevin Marks
I just watched the White Queen.. and it was interesting to see the UK appear to develop at the very end.. where Henry IV who brought the band together. - mary hodder
so now you can start Hollow Crown? - Kevin Marks
also, its kinda interesting Motorola is scheduling a product launch almost at the time Apple is supposed to announce iphone 6 / iwatch announcement - Chris Hale
@Kevin, yah, that's the question! Steve referred to a 'multi-retweeted Wired article' and you said something like 'oh yah, the sever...I really enjoyed that...' and then you both trailed off...in the context of the messaging app splitting convo...not that big a deal, but sounded interesting and thought I would ask is all...no worries. - J.C. Bouvier
FU, Keith!!! - Tom Guarriello
That's right!! - Tom Guarriello
forgetta bout it! - Chris Hale
ah, this one about Stewart and Slack http://www.wired.com/2014... - Kevin Marks
there might be another chat. Can someone find it and redirect here please - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tx Kevin! - J.C. Bouvier
Good article on trolls by Farhad Manjoo in the NEW YORK Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014... - Alex de Soto
Anonymity makes the veneer of civility even harder to maintain online than it is off. - Tom Guarriello
:-) - Keith Teare
So @Robert. Do you think this move by samsung will spark more large companies to try and buyout these smaller home automation companies? - Chris Hale
What about Andreessen investing in Buzzfeed. Media is becoming like Software regarding upscaling and low marginal costs .... Ben Thompson wrote some nice piece here: http://stratechery.com/2014... - Frank Drews
Or abuse by every low energy bluetooth beacon you pass... - Ian Waring
Chris: the great purchases are disappearing fast. - Robert Scoble
fascinating that Twitter ignored Del on block http://www.forbes.com/sites... - Kevin Marks
Hehe. I ask because that was one of the points i made last you and I got to sit down and talk. I predicted a land grab for these types of companies. Its interesting to watch it come true - Chris Hale
Jezebel’s staff: “It’s like playing Whac-a-Mole with a sociopathic Hydra,” - Alex de Soto
"Not listening to Harvey tends to be a bad idea. Last December Twitter decided to eliminate users’ ability to “block” people they didn’t like from following and retweeting their accounts, replacing it with a mute option so they simply wouldn’t see the trolls in their feed. Harvey warned it was a terrible idea and would make cyberbullying easier. The blocking feature was pulled anyway,... more... - Kevin Marks
Same at Demon Keith - Ian Waring
ACPO visits - Ian Waring
abandon ship - Tina Chase Gillmor
So, everyones headed to 4chan? - Ian Waring
lowest common denominator - Ian Waring
Twitter needs a "Parody Account" badge too - Ian Waring
Instead of starring (favoriting) a tweet, we should have a dislike function. - Alex de Soto
like Jeff Jarvis arguing with his parody? - Kevin Marks
exactly - Ian Waring
there is a "block or report" button - Kevin Marks
though the "report" is a bit crap - Kevin Marks
Kevin: Don't really want to block or report everything that sucks. - Alex de Soto
You think every person online should do that? - Francine Hardaway
My FB comments are not a cesspool - Francine Hardaway
Facebook has 50,000 one-star ratings (95%) on its messenger app-spit. https://plus.google.com/1169918... - clive boulton
People fear authority. Full stop. - Tom Guarriello
+10 Robert - Tom Guarriello
Complex stuff - Frank Paynter
I'm a mother, therefore I believe in consequences. That's how you teach children - Francine Hardaway
And some of these trolls are only large children - Francine Hardaway
Logical consequences makes civility possible - Tom Guarriello
see j.mp/twittertheory for how twitter used to work - Kevin Marks
Yep, agree consequences are important. But not important enough to make me want to ban anonymity - Keith Teare
it will be at ustream.tv/G3 - Tina Chase Gillmor
was wondering where everybody went - Ankush Narula
Yeah G3! - christina sponselli
thanks Christina - Tina Chase Gillmor
Here is a good example of an anon article.. which I think really shows one of the best version of anon communication: http://www.forbes.com/sites... - mary hodder
Ankush - I think I may have published the wrong link somehow. glad you found this chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
Interesting info on Robin Williams found by Cory Doctorow today: insisted that all productions he was involved in hired homeless people http://mostlysignssomeportents... - Ben Werdmuller
thanks Tina :-) - Ankush Narula
Thanks Christina - mary hodder
Well said, Steve - Tom Guarriello
Huge emotional impact because he gave so much to us - Francine Hardaway
+1000 Steve - I don't think anyone thought he would go that way... - J.C. Bouvier
he was our doctor, of sorts - Tina Chase Gillmor
vulnerability - Tina Chase Gillmor
she had it. robin had it - Tina Chase Gillmor
His enormous humanity...the scope of his spirit...was distinctive - Tom Guarriello
he jumped through time. he was a time travler - Tina Chase Gillmor
I Want To Live : Robin Williams’ death helped me understand something. https://medium.com/the-nib... - clive boulton
is it just me or is there a hitch in the stream? - Frank Paynter
melding culture connecting us all - Tina Chase Gillmor
The stream is likely sharded (will sort itself out) - clive boulton
Being in Robin Williams' presence was electric. I stood in a group of four people with him at TED one day and the experience was unforgettable. - Tom Guarriello
Clive: a million people protested the news feed. Users often protest change. - Robert Scoble
Tom: I'm so jealous. - Robert Scoble
This Keith guy is pretty smart... - Frank Paynter
I listened again to his Actors Studio interview on Bravo. Woman there was hospitalised from laughing too much. Also replayed "Who's line is it anyway" with him in it. Genius. - Ian Waring
Ferguson and Gaza? they connect when the guys in Gaza give advice to the guys in Ferguson about how to deal with tear gas. - mary hodder
I am sad that WIlliams, George Carlin and Richard Pryor are all gone. I will miss them all. - Alex de Soto
I heard all that on The Sixties. And I'm reading Graham Nash's autobiography. - Francine Hardaway
Mary: great point! - Robert Scoble
Robert, it was one of the most amazing 10 minutes of my life - Tom Guarriello
Alex: agreed. - Robert Scoble
Eddie Izzard tribute to RW: http://beta.bbc.com/news... - Ankush Narula
Mary Hodder that would be funny if it weren't so terrible - Francine Hardaway
+1 Steve's comment. Militarization of domestic police forces. - christina sponselli
Tom: I bet. I've had a few of those kinds of experiences, including being on the floor at TED shooting Bill Gates while he talked with people about nuclear energy. - Robert Scoble
It's the forty-fifth annvsy of that upstate NY rock concert today. - Frank Paynter
John Cleese doing Eulogy to Graham Chapman was brilliant too - Ian Waring
Francine - Steve reading that one too. He read Neil Young's just prior. Steve's like "boy, these guys saw the same situation so differently" - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: yes. good point. I changed enterprise apps. Almost a mutiny. - clive boulton
Robert: Thorium is the future indeed - Ankush Narula
Robert, were you at TED the year he took over the stage when BBC had technical difficulties during an interview? Incredible. - Tom Guarriello
Robin travelled through time and took us with him on a ride - Tina Chase Gillmor
What was the name of that comedy club on Clement near 9th Ave? - Frank Paynter
it could have been a medicine shift too - Tina Chase Gillmor
Right. He was struggling with many things. - Francine Hardaway
shifting meds can be deadly - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, I also read Neil Young's. - Francine Hardaway
I know a lot of comedians... they are not necessarily happy people - Tina Chase Gillmor
Does it matter how/why really? He's gone. It's awful and sad. - Ankush Narula
Cracked.com is the site - Francine Hardaway
Would somebody google that for me? - Frank Paynter
I'm not on Xanax - I'm on Klonopin - Ankush Narula
I'm on sucrose. - Frank Paynter
Psychotropic meds are no picnic - Tom Guarriello
I'm on Lexapro. Have been for 20 years. Manages my anxiety and depression quite well - Francine Hardaway
Im on a drug called awesome. - Chris Hale
+1 +1 "Comedians not necessarily happy people" - clive boulton
That's so good to hear, Francine - Tom Guarriello
and not to mention that mental health help is very difficult to get.... good help... and the help isn't always helpful - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert, I am interested in hearing about your thoughts about depression in Enterpreneur types. - Chris Hale
Chris - I need some of that awesome - Ankush Narula
In the not too distant future, people will look at our era's treatment of mental illness the way we view leeches, trepanning, etc. - Andrew Hazlett
Tina: not to mention, it isn't free. Insurance often doesn't cover therapy. - Robert Scoble
It was the Holy City Zoo. Thanks everybody. - Frank Paynter
depression is when you can't feel anything.. you're black inside.. and you can't see any future.. it doesn't exist. - mary hodder
it doesn't even sound as bad as it is.. - mary hodder
mind what you EAT. this has a MAJOR effect in what you ARE. - flyinthesoup
I think it's a wind up - Daniel W. Crompton
My health plan (effectively): Mental health call this 800# - clive boulton
Let's all turn off the screens/phones for one weekday per week - I'm almost positive it will improve overall mental health - Ankush Narula
Entrepreneurs are are similar to comedians and public figures in a some ways. Sometimes that dark side is a thing that drives people forward - Chris Hale
The first part of my career, 20+ years, was spent working as a clinical psychologist. The mental health system in the US is shameful. - Tom Guarriello
We'll get to Yo! 1.1 and Slack... - Ian Waring
Corporate culture trumps strategy and intelligence. It's really amazing. - Tom Guarriello
There is enough experience in this room to discuss depression and it's very real effects upon daily life. As opposed to the heartless comments that are flying around from self proclaimed "Normal" people. - Aron Michalski
@tom what part is shameful that you are referring to? - Chris Hale
Microsoft needs to forget hardware altogether. - Alex de Soto
I am not disagreeing , just curious - Chris Hale
MSR has so many good engineers blocked - clive boulton
Chris, the failure to recognize mental health needs as equal to any other health needs, for a start. - Tom Guarriello
I completely agree Tom. - Chris Hale
TOm agreed - Tina Chase Gillmor
Can we get back to trepanning? - Frank Paynter
Getting paid for forty, work forty - Frank Paynter
you might also make your mark and go off and get funding to start something awesome - Ankush Narula
I think everybody recognizes mental health needs, but they don't want to admit they have them themselves - Francine Hardaway
I have been exceptionally intellectually curious about behavioral patterns in entrepreneurs. I am an entrepreneur and I want to see some of the patterns that can be derived from other entreprenuers. - Chris Hale
Everyone would like to people to think they are just fine. - Francine Hardaway
Insider. To get one feature added to SQL Server typically requires moving the dial by $200 million. - clive boulton
"I'm just fine" NOT - Tina Chase Gillmor
There's a lot of research about entrepreneurs: they have poor concentration, ADD, are prone to anxiety and depression, and have high risk tolerance - Francine Hardaway
I've learned to recognize, Tina, when I am just fine and when I am not. And when I am not, I go to friends, yoga, meditation, and -- interesting enough -- Facebook. - Francine Hardaway
gets back to what Nadella thinks is MS's future core competence - which is still confused - Ian Waring
my previous health insurance didn't cover ANY mental health issues. My new one does and it just required a doubling of the premium. - Aron Michalski
That's part of the "shamefulness" I was referring to, Aron. - Tom Guarriello
Some of this platform talk is a little meta-meta... - Frank Paynter
Is it too late to say Robin Williams really touched me when I was a kid? - Ankush Narula
doldrums - Tina Chase Gillmor
Network is the system... (copyright DEC 1977) - Ian Waring
(he would have laughed) - Ankush Narula
if you're building a networked refrigerator inventory product, then all the consumer platforms are just a late phase in the dev cycle - Frank Paynter
Yo! API - John Borthwick's vision realised - Ian Waring
You mean next week.. in a week.. they leave. - mary hodder
Once a hippie, always a hippie. - christina sponselli
Yo! API permits notifications, subscriptions control, with 2 lines of JS or PHP - Ian Waring
steve quit dope for bourbon - Ankush Narula
I quit acid and mushrooms for wine and dope. - Francine Hardaway
Funny that: "Das Venture Capital" - Alex de Soto
I thought acid was a prerequisite for try disrupters - SImonB
ZOMG.. and then they'll be talking glue: https://www.youtube.com/watch... - mary hodder
quality? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve: relo to Salesforce Seattle, you can eat legal pies. - clive boulton
Headline writers VC funded - Ian Waring
or Salesforce Boulder - Kevin Marks
Steve was referring to JUST pies not pot pies - Tina Chase Gillmor
Salesforce Netherlands? - Alex de Soto
Forget Buzzfeed, I want to invest in Clickhole! http://www.clickhole.com/ - Andrew Hazlett
You'll Never Believe The 7 Reasons Steve Gillmor Gave up Dope - mary hodder
Nee toch... - Daniel W. Crompton
Vice on Ice... where the puck is heading - Frank Paynter
Steve's big vice now is eating too many cashews - Tina Chase Gillmor
5 Ways Marxism is Better than Acid - mary hodder
SketchFactor anyone? - Alex de Soto
You can get high on a large dose of cashews? - SImonB
click economy.... it sucks - Tina Chase Gillmor
A16Z defining Digital Ocean as "Open Source Software as a Service". Growing like a weed - Ian Waring
Damn, I stepped away for a minute. Whose headlines are we quoting? - Tom Guarriello
MAry.... he, he - Tina Chase Gillmor
Aren't they one of the Quiz Companies? - Frank Paynter
they have done quizzes - Kevin Marks
I love this Clickhole Buzzfeedized headline for... ALL of Moby DIck "The Time I Spent On A Commercial Whaling Ship Totally Changed My Perspective On The World" http://www.clickhole.com/blogpos... - Andrew Hazlett
...and with animated gifs - christina sponselli
Yo! should do this now... - Ian Waring
I post a lot of tech links on my twitter feed, the only stories that get likes/RTs are a specific subset (mostly javascript these days) - Adnan
Buzzfeed...oh yeah... - Tom Guarriello
21 Reasons Not To Visit Buzzfeed :-D - Ankush Narula
I love digital ocean. They are the hosting company I use for my businesses and clientts - Chris Hale
people care about "stars" not the human condition - Tina Chase Gillmor
Likewise. My Wordpress network on them. - Ian Waring
"What YOU didn't know about linkbait?" - Ankush Narula
Church is the content side? - Daniel W. Crompton
Daniel - yes - Keith Teare
Names make news ;) - Dave Martin
"What Food Combination Represents Your Relationship?" - Ankush Narula
But then you'd turn into an ignorant rude lout, Keith! ;) - Tom Guarriello
that's some deep journalism - Ankush Narula
Bazaar pointing at Cathedrals - Ian Waring
oh, wait... "seattlepi" ... I get it. - Frank Paynter
So if I understand Dan correctly, I should be posting only javascript links, but thats no fun - Adnan
It's native advertising.. verses native content.. http://humboldtsentinel.com/2014... - mary hodder
I think the toast beats buzzfeed hands down http://the-toast.net/2014... - Kevin Marks
John Oliver suggests that if the advertisers get to direct content.. that the journalists should get to direct ads.. see video above.. very funny. - mary hodder
Cathedral and the Bizarre - Frank Paynter
The Internet's Original Sin - The Atlantic http://theatln.tc/1mS16H0 - Ankush Narula
^^^ this kinda sums it up - Ankush Narula
John Oliver++ - Kevin Marks
Bit like the guy attacked by a machete in a NY bar of ill repute - "Headless man found in topless bar" - Ian Waring
Dan, what is yr opinion of Vox? - christina sponselli
12 ways Buzzfeed is better than Marxism (which is better than Acid) - mary hodder
+1 Ian - clive boulton
Mary - nothing is better than acid - Keith Teare
Facebook unbundling grief lacks an animal logo http://blogs.wsj.com/digits... - clive boulton
Once again, someone using the word "schizophrenic" when what they mean is "multiple personality." (Pet peeve.) - Tom Guarriello
anybody read "Retreat of the State" by Susan Strange? - Frank Paynter
"native advertising" = self-promotion - Tina Chase Gillmor
is Robert Scoble still alive? let's see..... - Tina Chase Gillmor
"native advertising" puts food on the table for a lot of free-lancers - Frank Paynter
Shouldn't that be "indigenous people's advertising" or "First Nation's People's advertising"? - Andrew Hazlett
Yo! can notify you when Andreessen releases a tweet storm also :-) - Ian Waring
(It's so much easier to comment here and post links -- to NATIVE advertising John Oliver video above -- when you aren't on the show.. than when you are on.. can't do it.) - mary hodder
yep, he's ok LOL - Tina Chase Gillmor
agreed mary - Kevin Marks
I have to shut up for a bit to go get them - Kevin Marks
as part of our content marketing I've been posting listicles on BuzzFeed, it does drive traffic. - Daniel W. Crompton
Man, Durkheim shows up on GG...heavy duty show today! - Tom Guarriello
Emile Durkheim! FTW - Frank Paynter
"A long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation." - Ankush Narula
Redmond should rehire Robert... - clive boulton
Sounds like the web - Ankush Narula
First world problems Mary and Kevin - Francine Hardaway
iBracelet? - Alex de Soto
when it comes to some informative reading together with monetization, I like what medium is doing here https://medium.com/re-form - Satyajit
How about talking about Humin being released this week. I know scoble likes Humin. I have been trying it and want to see others think - Chris Hale
you can blame deleuze for that - Kevin Marks
iPud 6.0! - Frank Paynter
link to that podcast podcast? - Andrew Hazlett
doesn't kevin get any cred for podcasting? - Ankush Narula
I've been listening to GG since it wasn't a podcast, then - Tom Guarriello
Yeah, Kevin contributed one of the critical pieces - Andrew Hazlett
audioscrobbling somehow become podcasting - Ankush Narula
Steve Chen taking Kevin's place at Google Ventures... - Tom Guarriello
I made the first script that put podcasts on an iPod, yep. - Kevin Marks
Interesting story about KKR promoting desert grown alfalfa for the Chinese dairy industry... exporting Colorado River water to Shanghai! - Frank Paynter
Including your abusive ex-boyfriend.. Humin is great for data-exhibitionists.. but not so great for those of us that might not want everything out there for various reasons. - mary hodder
Wasn't able to get the voice mail set up in Humin... ;( - J.C. Bouvier
no trail - Tina Chase Gillmor
hmm. That sounds interesting as a chat concept. - Chris Hale
No social consequences, the sociopath's anthem - Tom Guarriello
Dust blows forward and the dust blows back - Frank Paynter
that could be good for speed reading too! - Satyajit
Is this a dagger? - Frank Paynter
Is Scoble In This Room? Almost certainly not. We last saw Scoble 1223km away from you, 434 days ago. - clive boulton
mary hodder: I can only see people who have handed me a business card or who has friended me on Facebook. So, DE FACTO you have stuff out there. I just wish I could keep all that stuff up to date. Contacts rot over time. - Robert Scoble
Oh, this one is definitely important to me. Cisco just announced laying off 6k employees - Chris Hale
thats withknown.com - Kevin Marks
KEVIN, why known is based on PHP ? - flyinthesoup
Is this a dagger I see in front of me, with its handle pointing toward my hand? (to the dagger) Come, let me hold you. (he grabs at the air in front of him without touching anything) I don’t have you but I can still see you. Fateful apparition, isn’t it possible to touch you as well as see you? Or are you nothing more than a dagger created by the mind, a hallucination from my fevered... more... - Frank Paynter
yes, PHP for ease of hosting - Kevin Marks
it's nicely written PHP - Kevin Marks
what are yall taking about PHP? I missed the start of that thread - Chris Hale
please suggest guys to go with nodejs + markdown - flyinthesoup
you pasted a footnote too Frank - Kevin Marks
Huge inflection point re: robots forthcoming - Tom Guarriello
we are talking it is a shame this indie WEB good initiative is born dead with PHP - flyinthesoup
Kevin: collections of Android / iPhone apps on desktops? - clive boulton
Im a 10+ yr php dev and love hearing new php stuff. At the same time, I am starting to lean more towards node - Chris Hale
nodejs is still a bit hard to self-host - Kevin Marks
Kevin, why do you think node is hard to self host? - Chris Hale
thats just silly language partisanship, flyinthesoup - Kevin Marks
Kevin, you should never believe it - flyinthesoup
I saw that! TMI - Frank Paynter
Cliff Richard on the telly again - Ian Waring
it's easy on heroku, it's hard on a generic hosting provider - Kevin Marks
I was just into the sililoquy thing - Frank Paynter
<sarcasm>but without node how are they going to get funded</sarcasm> - Adnan
+1 Ian - clive boulton
Bravos, Dan. Well said! - Dave Martin
Meteor looks good atop node.js - Ian Waring
I was a lead devops engineer at a startup that had some public node sites and it wasnt so tough. It was actually fairly easy. Just install nginx and node and its pretty seamless - Chris Hale
Known needs to be hosted in places that host wordpress, which means MySQL+PHP - Kevin Marks
Chris: yeah, sad to see problems at Cisco, lots of people are being hurt, but that helps startups too, available humans to work. - Robert Scoble
Oh, kevin, that's not right to paint a "silly language partisanship" . This is the DEFACTO standard for ANY modern thinking web app - flyinthesoup
I think it was the Gaza strip folks - Andrew Hazlett
gaza!# - Ian Waring
there are indieweb apps in node too - Kevin Marks
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. H. L. Mencken - Andrew Hazlett
Kevin: on desktop collections of Android / iPhone apps vs Polymer components? - clive boulton
I agree @Robert. It affects me since I am a contractor for them. Thankfully the axe hasnt been weilded over my head - Chris Hale
73 - Ian Waring
Superinjunction city - Ian Waring
flyinthesoup you are talking bollocks. - Kevin Marks
I build stuff in node, python, ruby, PHP, Java, whatever - Kevin Marks
Google Elm Lodge Kitty Gladys - more... - Ian Waring
Speaking of wordpress hosting, I might be open sourcing some of my nginx config stuff on how to setup wordpress sites on nginx while using hhvm for php - Chris Hale
+1 Kevin - Adnan
George Carlin - Ankush Narula
Senor wences - Frank Paynter
@flyinthesoup - Just noticed the thread. CEO / lead developer of Known here. PHP was a pragmatic decision based on research and data. Not arbitrarily chosen. Supported platform is a feature. - Ben Werdmuller
node is quick to get up, but has a lot of immature libraries too - Kevin Marks
Netcraft monitor coverage of PHP sites worldwide for Zend - Ian Waring
Meteor.js on node! - Ian Waring
I love snarcasm - Ankush Narula
Jonathan Winters - christina sponselli
+1 christina - Tom Guarriello
devops luv go hate node - clive boulton
Thanks for ending on a positive note Steve. Louis C.K. is cool. He will step up! - Alex de Soto
@Kevin, I agree about library maturity. On the flip side, I am really digging a lot of the new js and node based tools that are springing up to help make developer workflow easier. Tools like yeoman, gulp and others make development really nice - Chris Hale
Keith - BBC say more people have come forward with more info... - Ian Waring
We're all bozos on this bus, Steve - Tom Guarriello
it seems that devops love ruby more than anything else - Ankush Narula
browserify is attractive too - Kevin Marks
The guy who was mentioning meteor, have you tried sails? Do you have an opinion on one or the other - Chris Hale
call me a "bollocks sayer" and stick with PHP and you'll see what happens to the world - flyinthesoup
No experience of Sails - Ian Waring
PHP was certain doom for Facebook after all - Kevin Marks
i have been teaching myself Sails this week and like its ability to scaffold REST apis really quick - Chris Hale
Awesome show Steve and gang! - Chris Hale
Gang, as always big thanks for taking time to share your thoughts with the rest of us. - SImonB
That was great! - Daniel W. Crompton
au revoir, over and out - until the next time - Ian Waring
Another outstanding GG - Tom Guarriello
Great show, have a nice weekend all... - J.C. Bouvier
@flyinthesoup. I still really love php as a language. Have you seen react php? - Chris Hale
wow.... it was a nice show - Tina Chase Gillmor
Love it when I catch these live. Thanks everyone; awesome as always. - Ben Werdmuller
I find bits of PHP very annoying, but you don't have to use them. - Kevin Marks
i liked it.... seems like all we could think about this week - Tina Chase Gillmor
@kevin, very true. I cheat when i write javascript i use http://php.js when i get pissed that js doesnt have some of php's cooler functions - Chris Hale
@ben, i really appretiate you stepping in and please take my comment as a compliment for your initiative. I am sorry Kevin is talking "bollocks", but i do believe the speed things happen perfectly justifies going for nodejs with ANY indie initiative. - flyinthesoup
this is due to NPM and all the ecosystem of modules and flexible app creation taht comes with it - flyinthesoup
@Kevin, where do you work again? Its cool that you get to work on writing in a bunch of different languages - Chris Hale
I'm independent, and I am advising a few startups (including Known) - Kevin Marks
I think every language has a package manager nowadays @flyinthesoup. PHP=composer, javascript web=bower, node=npm, ruby= gem - Chris Hale
yes @Chris, but we're talking about a single language in front & back end - flyinthesoup
flyinthesoup: I'm happy for you to use node for your projects - i use it form some of mine too. You seem to have a bad case of "golden hammer" syndrome when you insist everyone else should use it too - Kevin Marks
I plan to try some Go next - Kevin Marks
If you want to read me saying nice things about node, try http://epeus.blogspot.com/2012... - Kevin Marks
so @kevin, in what capacity are you advising startups. I am curious because I have a few initiatives I am working on and I know I always need advice on different aspects of things. - Chris Hale
i see you insisting in "TAGGING" me withou arguments on why would anyone build anything that can not be fully explored to become a mobile app as a single page front end app consuming as many APIs people want to and this is not ideology, this is effectivity - flyinthesoup
I'm glad you find it effective. - Kevin Marks
Ben finds PHP effective - Kevin Marks
why is that impossible for you to accept? - Kevin Marks
Great, everyone can respect that, but in fact this is not a matter of finding effective, but being effective. - flyinthesoup
I am most interested in the platforms I can use that let me be the most effective one man development team possible. - Chris Hale
Chris: It varies - sometimes I'll do day rate consulting, sometimes I'll have an ongoing advisory board role (with stock or retainer) email me kevinmarks@gmail.com if you want to chat - Kevin Marks
because it is not wroth it. if you are the one developing it, you'll certainly benefit A LOT. - flyinthesoup
what have you built, flyinthesoup? I'd love to see examples - Kevin Marks
also, Chris indiewebcamp.com/irc is a good place to talk about independent web development - Kevin Marks
Thank for the info @Kevin. Looks like that could be a helpful IRC to watch - Chris Hale
I have been trying for the past few months to work on going 100% independent developer and consultant and realize it is not as easy as I had hoped. - Chris Hale
@Chris, never give up. @Kevin is certainly a very good advisor. Try to balance selling your time to execute other people's work and gather enough experience to build your own. - flyinthesoup
thanks @flyinthesoup. I have been struggling lately to find time to complete work on my own stuff. This is one of the big reasons I am starting to get into node. Anything that can speed up my dev time is a great thing for me to utilize. Work smart , not harder - Chris Hale
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
is this the only chat? - Tina Chase Gillmor
crickets - Ankush Narula
Is anyone out there? This is weird - Thomas Rector
The Beatles fishing from a window in suite 272 at the Edgewater Hotel, Aug. 21, 1964.http://www.seattlepi.com/local... via @SeattlePI
RT @GeorgeHuSF: Looking forward to attending #CNX14 next month. Will be a great event for digital marketers. http://www.exacttarget.com/connect...
@davewiner scripting news rss radio boom
RT @TechCrunch: The Gillmor Gang is split on the latest app trend known as unbundling http://techcrunch.com/2014...
RT @TechCrunch: Gillmor Gang: More of the Same http://techcrunch.com/2014... by @stevegillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
here - Keith Teare
here too - Kevin Marks
Topic for today's GG: Sup http://techcrunch.com/2014.... App half-life now measured in weeks. - Tom Guarriello
OMG I'm available to attend a recording! - Matthew Voshell
...and go in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - Murray Macdonald
Here is where the new FB messenger App is headed...http://techcrunch.com/2014... - Tony Stanislawski
Here. - Robert Scoble
im going to watch through the roku ustream private channel i wonder how far delayed ill be - Matthew Voshell
We are gonna talk about two-app strategy for sure. - Robert Scoble
That one above is for you Robert! - Tony Stanislawski
@Robert did you see that tweet i sent to most for the Frontline piece that recently aired? - Matthew Voshell
BTW My little experiment last week, I mentioned all of you in a tweet, only Keith responded. I know that I could have got Scobles attention on FB. Steve G and Kevin not so sure how I would - Tony Stanislawski
I saw it, but as keith had responded i thought I'd be redundant - Kevin Marks
The world is coming to an end. I might as well watch The Gillmor Gang live - Francine Hardaway
Excellent plan, Francine - Tom Guarriello
Got it Kevin - Tony Stanislawski
Tony, do you mean this one? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh... - Rob Underwood
I was thinking of Robert S too when I watched the original - Rob Underwood
No I have not seen that...another thing to watch! - Tony Stanislawski
Matthew, nope. - Robert Scoble
What's up Steve! - Chris Hale
ppl are turnig off push notications (in some categories) http://andrewchen.co/2014... - clive boulton
I will not install fb chat. Don't want it. Same with 4square. - Murray Macdonald
Wow. Robert jumped right in - Chris Hale
Per a story that relates to last weeks show, and what the gang is trying to understand; http://www.pbs.org/wgbh... - Matthew Voshell
Path like 4sq has 2 app strategy - clive boulton
I agree -- the FourSquare/Swarm split feels different than the messenger/FB "split" - Rob Underwood
I love the new FourSquare app, and Messenger is quite useful. I dig that too. Both are very useful. And, the new Messenger features are super sweet! You guys should check it out. - Jason Nunnelley
Can we make the Dock disappear on Robert's screen? - Tom Guarriello
These apps will have to provide value to users. They seem like distractions more than value. I communicate with my friends through other channels (text, voice, email, beer) - Murray Macdonald
I always view myself as the quintessential user, and I will now never use Foursquare and give tips. I used to do it when checking in. - Francine Hardaway
I have too many other ways to find out where to eat - Francine Hardaway
Question, can you be friends in messenger and not on FB yet? - Tony Stanislawski
But I do like and use Messenger - Francine Hardaway
Tony yes - Francine Hardaway
Yelp is my go-to app for food. I don't want people to know where I am eating. - Murray Macdonald
Agree with Robert on separating of FB apps. I think this could be an attempt to improve reputation for individual components of FB - Chris Hale
@Tony, yes, depending on your privacy settings you can control who can message you; either public, friends of friends, firends, or ony me - Matthew Voshell
Max Schrems suite was stirred by a talk from a Facebook privacy lawyer. “The message was, ‘Europeans are cute with their privacy laws... - clive boulton
My sister (reasonably technical) just made the mistake of having a private conversation on a relative's public Facebook feed. I explained the 2-app split and she's on board now. ;-) - Ian McGee
Messenger and the FB strategy are not the same as 4Square and Swarm - Francine Hardaway
whatever happened to the big "skype" integration into facebook chat? seems like they've kinda forgotten about that? - Matthew Voshell
I think instant messaging in general is a ungodly steaming hot mess - Chris Hale
My wife told me she uninstalled Messenger because of the permission requirements, to which I responded "how are you going to talk to your daughter when she's in Japan?" When in Osaka, my kid only talked to us on Messenger, because it's mobile, desktop, etc. Warren Whitlock called me on the voice calling feature built into Messenger, before I even knew it was there. Cool as hell! - Jason Nunnelley
On iOS, the lock screen notifications arent written correctly, i get a single new notification per message... its awful, they need to allow it to do a "count" of messages from the same persons - Matthew Voshell
My parents and many of my 50+ year old friends are not on facebook. Neither are my kids. - Murray Macdonald
Matthew: we can argue about that. I really like the single notifications per message coming in. - Robert Scoble
Yeah, but I see the utility of FB Messenter immediately, but my perception of FOursquare and Swarm is silly - Francine Hardaway
Swarm is getting better and better! - Tony Stanislawski
I still can't figure out the Swarm "nearby plans" -- it would seem weird to just show up in person at someone's plan (e.g., dinner), even if they are friends. - Rob Underwood
I think what they did is underestimate the gamification of it, which everyone loved and they are bringing those back! - Tony Stanislawski
Robert was talking on his fb this week about everyone who is up in arms over the permission stuff. Its just people pontificating about privacy because they have nothing better to get inflamed about. In a contextual age the notion of privacy is a radically different thing than the traditional notion of what privacy is - Chris Hale
Foursquare made a lot of mistakes. - Francine Hardaway
Good work, Tina! - Tom Guarriello
@Robert re: FB messenger chat notification; if i get 10 messages now my entire screen is full and i cant see any of the other messages (unless i scroll) i think having a count like imessage nativly does its much better to scale - Matthew Voshell
LOL Kevin I know who to message now! - Tony Stanislawski
Matthew: I do wish you had a choice. I see value in how you want to use notifications too. - Robert Scoble
Did facebook ever try to buy four square? isnt this a feature they portray in "silicon valley" when hooloui reverse engineerings the same feature as pied piper; facebook just did that wither thier "check-ins" and foursquare is dead just like that - Matthew Voshell
It all comes down to value. Can they generate more value for their users, and in some way extract that value in a form that positively affects the balance sheet? If that answer is yes, do it. - Josh Bradshaw
By leaving a tip are you not really checking in, just not in the present! - Tony Stanislawski
Bingo Kevin! - Tony Stanislawski
Hey @Robert. I had an interesting thought. Maybe these companies are splitting there apps because of a User experience crisis on mobile. Just like a webpage with too much content on it, maybe they are trying to keep there apps focused and uncluttered so people don't feel overwhelmed by an apps complexity - Chris Hale
When I use it I use it in combo with Google and 4sq - Tony Stanislawski
Really easier to type "coffee shop near me" into Google - Francine Hardaway
Worth noting Yelp has/had check-in ... just no one used it that I can tell. - Rob Underwood
As an app developer, I can appreciate how hard it can be to organize all the functions of an app when an app tries to include the "kitchen sink" in there app - Chris Hale
Don't resist FB Messenger, folks. It's worth it. I use it to talk to my friends in London. - Francine Hardaway
oye,,, a few technical weirdnesses today. its always something :-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
yelp reviews are like amazon reviews, take them with a grain of salt; biz owners check thier yelp and want it to look good; there's been stories latly of owners bullying peopel to leave good reviews or chraging for bad ones http://mashable.com/2014... - Matthew Voshell
I have had experiences like the one @Robert described. I think this is a drastically undersold feature of FB. It really has helped me meet up with friends in other towns - Chris Hale
Many Yelp reviews are years old (pre apps era) - clive boulton
FB Messenger is quite useful. especial for a small group chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
I use Google Now all the time. Its contextual awareness is great. - Murray Macdonald
There is only so many Messaging Silo's to invest time in. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Listening to @Robert all I can think of now is Peter Brady and "Time to Change" - https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Rob Underwood
Change is not hard it is fun! What would life be like without change! - Tony Stanislawski
group chat is key. twitter is dropping the ball there - Kevin Marks
Queue steve and his notification love fest - Matthew Voshell
WhatsApp is the most popular one that friends and family use for Group Chats - Moe Glitz from iPhone
To me, i think a lot of these chat silos will be broken down in IOS 8 once apps can talk to each other. - Chris Hale
How did Facebook Messenger take over what AIM used to own? Why did people switch? - Matthew Voshell
We are using Slack a ton across our development team at Relay now. - Rob Underwood
yes, Slack is excellent - Keith Adler
We love it. - Rob Underwood
Slack rocks. - Robert Scoble
In about two weeks we've moved 80% of our internal communication to Slack .. and it integrates with stuff like Github and JIRA, etc. - Rob Underwood
I have a plane going over sorry - Kevin Marks
yes it integrates with ALL the things - Kevin Marks
Who will acquire Slack. Apple, Facebook, Google or Microsoft - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Twitter SHOULD - Keith Adler
@Moe -- good question. Maybe LinkedIn? - Rob Underwood
I hope none of them - Kevin Marks
Apple or MSFT would bugger it up - Kevin Marks
good point - Keith Adler
Facebook is too off message - Kevin Marks
maybe google, but they'd have channel conflict with plus/hangouts - Kevin Marks
Yahoo is desperate enough. - Murray Macdonald
It's great for our team because it gave a separate notifications stream that would get everyone's attention - Keith Adler
I love learning about new tools from you guys. *runs off to check out Slack* - Laura Norvig
Rob: slack does git, ok, now i'll check out the app - clive boulton
Stewart would not sell to Yahoo again - Kevin Marks
hmm. slack sounds interesting - Chris Hale
Any App that solves problems will always be in the line of fire for the usual suspects - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Remember when Whisper was the buzz? They come, they go... - Murray Macdonald
The searchable database, shared group environment is what's great - Keith Adler
@kevin: any indie concept of app-to-app notifications (yeah on the phone)? - clive boulton
It has put our work messaging in it's own separate channel (important when all the employees are overloaded) - Keith Adler
i used to work for the company that managed the backend for whisper - Chris Hale
webmentions are the indie concept, but not very app-focused - Kevin Marks
Ugh. I only didn't remove Yo because I forgot about it - Francine Hardaway
webmentions - thx - clive boulton
Yo is too small to go to the effort of deleting if it doesn't bug us too much... - Ian McGee
There is easily a Top 20 of major Messaging Apps. It's hard to get into the Top 5 and stay there - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I'm starting to turn off notifications on some apps because I'm being driven nuts by notifications - Francine Hardaway
Yo was awesome for the World Cup...just got a Yo every time a goal was scored. - Tony Stanislawski
I turn of/deny notification on all apps except the social networking apps - Adnan
Yo shows why brogrammers are a stain on silicon valley - Matthew Voshell
what the bejesus is a brogrammer? - Chris Hale
Yo is brogrammers trying to be phatic and just shouting - Kevin Marks
brogrammer is programmer who acts like a frat boy - Kevin Marks
iOS 8 could be the American Bandstand of Messaging Apps - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The device IS the app! Long term, Apple will be the best and most reliable contextual API provider. The hardware is a vehicle for the software. - Richard Hendrix
I blame Aaron Sorkin - Kevin Marks
i'd liken them to Ogar from Revenger of the nerds... that knows javascript - Matthew Voshell
apple is not a great cloud api provider - Kevin Marks
I turn noisy app notifications off / also noisy folks off - clive boulton
@Kevin... lol Aaron had nothing to do with this! - Matthew Voshell
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH @Kevin - Chris Hale
he reified the dickish programmer - Kevin Marks
The API isn't in the cloud - it's on the device and just transmitted through the cloud if need be - Richard Hendrix
Kevin So you are saying Mark Zuckerburg is a dickish programmer? - Matthew Voshell
I was going to ask Robert if he still had Yo on the phone. - JayVig
I will install it if it guarantees Arsenal will win another trophy this year, Keith! - Tom Guarriello
to some extent - Kate Losse's Boy Kings describes it more clearly - Kevin Marks
Man City are the champions i believe, ahem - Matthew Voshell
but Sorkin created a dickish programmer archetype (possibly intending to be dismissive) but it became a hero role model - Kevin Marks
There should be an intercourse Messaging App. Yes Yes Yes! That would be huge Global Big Data - Moe Glitz from iPhone
hierarchy of noise: yogrammer > brogrammer > programmer - clive boulton
I was looking for this earlier but all the Slick fans... Hipchat is very similar.. a little nicer actaully.. https://www.hipchat.com/ - Matthew Voshell
that's like google's "pay per emotion" patent - Kevin Marks
Slack's integration wins - Kevin Marks
What's that patent, Kevin? - Tom Guarriello
@Kevin.. yea price might too; but idk here are hipchat integrations http://help.hipchat.com/knowled... - Matthew Voshell
Thanks, Kevin. - Tom Guarriello
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!! - Chris Hale
googs new user tracking bridges mobile apps and web http://blogs.wsj.com/digits... - clive boulton
Once again folks the book is called "age of context" get it on amazon now http://www.amazon.com/Age-Con... - Matthew Voshell
So emotion sensing watches will start driving recommendations to restaurants where people are happy? - Murray Macdonald
The people who hate the change are most vocal - Tony Stanislawski
I did a focus group on the Nespresso machine - Tina Chase Gillmor
Vessyl an early (and ridiculous) example of something that's definitely going to become pervasive. - Tom Guarriello
makeup sex heartrate? - Murray Macdonald
Vessle is awesome cuase it tells you everything thats on the side of the can.. colbert did a nice job with it http://www.theverge.com/2014... - Matthew Voshell
Murray: chocolate for Maryam. :-) - Robert Scoble
so all those home automation protocols that apple and google are working are going to be a big key to this contextual future. - Chris Hale
Nespresso machines are yummy -- but now sounding like "The Circle" - Rob Underwood
I like having a real espresso machine. - Kevin Marks
it's a balance of trade -- are people going to be willing to continue to give up privacy for the convenience and serendipity of discovery? - Rob Underwood
Kevin: sometimes I like a 3-star restaurant. Other times McDonalds. :-) - Robert Scoble
BLE sensors have standardized discovery. - Murray Macdonald
@Rob for music? Movies? Sure... for my home... ehhh :/ - Matthew Voshell
scary future... - Adnan
Yep! That's what I'm saying. Apple becomes the arbiter of the sensors, in effect turning the bundle of sensors into a contextual API that Apple provides. The device is just a part of the programming. - Richard Hendrix
Taxi Trails App in Stockholm tracks the travels of all their taxis via GPS to discover Stockholm Hot Spots - Moe Glitz from iPhone
BLE does but Proximity UUID's do not - Keith Teare
why not push a webmentions notification at an app for scalability of permissions - clive boulton
They are trying to stop tracking the UIDs of their devices, not the sensors. - Murray Macdonald
What apple is doing with beacons is criminal. It's like doing away with DNS so that your computer could only talk to hosts through applications that embed specific IP addresses. The web would have never been born. I put some real effort into a DNS for beacons and I'm now I'm glad I didn't spend more time on it. - Todd Hoff
And Apple is banning BLE to Proximity UUID discovery - Keith Teare
I already did - Francine Hardaway
How exactly are they banning that Keith? - Murray Macdonald
See the thing that scares me about apples approach is that all the data flows directly to apple. I think its important for some of these sensors and things that will talk to each other to be localized to the app in question not to platform itself - Chris Hale
Apple is very good about explaining how they never "touch" your data.... google kind of skirts around it - Matthew Voshell
Android BLE provides a better beacon API. I can detect and respond to beacons without needing to know about them in advance. Apple requires you to pre-register your beacons for the app to respond. - Murray Macdonald
You can set whatever Major and Minor values you want on most BLE beacons. - Murray Macdonald
Can you become a beacon yet on android Murray? - Todd Hoff
Context should not be app specific. Location context is environmental, not app specific. - Murray Macdonald
Murray - yes, all accurate - Keith Teare
Are you asking if an Android phone can transmit as a beacon? - Murray Macdonald
Murray it can not, yet. - Robert Scoble
Apple won't approve apps that try to discover beacons the app doesn't already know about - Keith Teare
Robert: Cannot what? Transmit as a beacon? - Murray Macdonald
Apple will make the browser ? - chris dowling
That's not true. A proper beacon browser would allow you to whitelist desired beacons. There's no reason you need to be spammed. That would just be a bad beacon browser. A good one would let you scan an environment and add the ones you like to your whitelist. - Murray Macdonald
Anybody should be able to make the browser. - Keith Teare
Hearing Apple scaling its Cassandra team ahead of something big - clive boulton
zeroconf, not zigbee - Kevin Marks
Here's a use case: I'm walking down a sidewalk and I want to get information on restaurants on my path. You want to get coupons, specials, menus etc from your local context. Using a general system I could get the id, look it up, apply filters, merge with social streams, figure out the interaction pattern, and present the UI to the user. This can't happen with an iphone. - Todd Hoff
So cute. There's a little Keith in the room - Tina Chase Gillmor
coupons meh - Kevin Marks
Sorry Kevin, yes, zeroconf - Keith Teare
A good beacon browser app would let you enable/disable types of beacons. Coupons, restaurants, etc... Users would turn on and off they things they are interested in. The browser wouldn't spam your notifications, it would present them when you asked, unless you had previously whitelisted them. - Murray Macdonald
saving money bothers you? - Todd Hoff
They don't have the majority of costco customers, just app purchasers. - Murray Macdonald
Murray: Android can not transmit as a beacon. - Robert Scoble
Maybe there will be a "discoverability" ON/OFF setting like in Bluetooth. - Alex de Soto
password heist? - Laura Norvig
It wasn't this stuff about beacons - Francine Hardaway
Robert: Agreed, but it will soon. Also I see little need as phones are already discoverable. Apple can act as an iBeacon, but what is the use? It could be useful in the future when finding friends, etc... but those apps aren't popular as most of that is done through GPS and the cloud, not BLE. - Murray Macdonald
Sprints attempted buyout of Tmobile finally got extinguished this week - Chris Hale
"Netflix subscriber revenue surpasses HBO." - Alex de Soto
And Sprint got a new CEO this week. That is also interesting new IMHO - Chris Hale
I've got to run to a 2:30 meeting. Thanks everyone! Great show. - Murray Macdonald
FCC tells phone carriers to tell users why throttling - Laura Norvig
literally dying I emant - Kevin Marks
I cannot watch World news on any channel. Regurgitation of what was on the internet 2 hours or 2 days ago! - Tony Stanislawski
HBO Vice is pretty interesting. - Alex de Soto
Oliver is a half-hour weekly Daily Show. Big success for HBO and loss for Comedy Central. - Tom Guarriello
Feeling Apple Watch focused more on personal health: sensors / notifications / analytics - clive boulton
Who is getting the new Apple iPhone? - Alex de Soto
presentate - Kevin Marks
many ppl want the larger iphone - clive boulton
What I do not get Robert is what is the key difference between these people who spend so much time worrying about this rather than using it. Your thread on FB would be an interesting dissertation..... - Tony Stanislawski
this is too small - Kevin Marks
*waves to Todd Hoff* - Laura Norvig
Special mention: Danny Sullivan's Twitter coverage of the hurricanes in Hawaii. - Alex de Soto
Good show! Time for some wine! Vivino show me the way! :) - Tony Stanislawski
When is your next show, Tina? - Laura Norvig
What's that football app again, Keith? - Tom Guarriello
Tony: we all talk about it because it's interesting and we all are gonna use it. - Robert Scoble
Now for some G3 - clive boulton
In case I don't see ya, Good afternoon, good evening and goodnight! - Chris Hale
I want the larger phone - Francine Hardaway
Nice one! - Asif Rahman
Good show. 'night all - Ian McGee from Android
thanks! - Richard Hendrix
Francine the larger phone spurs a smaller watch? - clive boulton
Ah, One Football...got it. - Tom Guarriello
Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble
Oh hey, I found the "chat room". Another great show, thanks :) - Brian Gaudenti
Gillmor Gang: Taming of the Stream - http://techcrunch.com/2014...
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The Gillmor Gang – John Borthwick, Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, and Steve Gillmor – examine the gathering storm that is the Uber social network. After years of positioning, acquisition, soaring value payouts, and a winner-take-all sensibility in the tech community, now something different. The data points: Digg Deeper, Soundcloud, Twitter user metrics, and more… Read More - Steve Gillmor
Nice episode. I couldn't find a place to post my comment but I'm going to do it here. With all this technology I would think that you guys would dedicate a page that would redirect viewers to your other social media sites in a more organized way. Anyway, I like the discussions of creative technology innovation, consumer purchasing power, and law. Neither of these three topics wouldn't... more... - Ian Camarillo from iPhone
We are readying some tools to directly address your comments stay tuned. - Steve Gillmor
RT @dens: @erickschonfeld App switching is only going to get easier and faster with iOS8 etc. Skate to where the puck is going to be.
RT @TechCrunch: The Gillmor Gang talk Slack, Nuzzel, micro-audiences, notification strategy, and more http://techcrunch.com/2014...
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 11am PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
here - Keith Teare
I'm here, good morning! - Robert Scoble
@Robert, your Internet back up...saw you mention it was down in Half Moon Bay yesterday? - J.C. Bouvier
Oh great! GG...a "rational" excuse not to work on this project due Wednesday! - Tom Guarriello
Not just the Internet was down. Phones, cell phones, and all connectivity. - Robert Scoble
HMB like most places in SF Bay is probably sitting on an internet loop. - clive boulton
Wow...any idea what the point of failure was? - J.C. Bouvier
Backhoe Saturday - clive boulton
Stone Age Scoble - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I hate the British Government but I love my country - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Palestine=Third rail - Tom Guarriello
Please send wearables to... G3 ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert looks like he is wearing shoulder pads at some angles - Moe Glitz from iPhone
yes due to the red couch clending into his shirt - Tina Chase Gillmor
blending - Tina Chase Gillmor
With Twitters reach and influence they should be hitting the right numbers - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Twitter's numbers due almost wholly to World Cup. We'll see what next quarter's numbers are. On my screen it has slowed down again. - Robert Scoble
@Kevin, that verification process is seemingly pretty whimsical... - J.C. Bouvier
gray, the studio cat, is so glad Im back in town he won't leave me alone. he cares not that Im "trying" to direct this show ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
verification is used as a PR tool - Kevin Marks
New football season starting across Europe soon Twitter hoping to tap into that as well - Moe Glitz from iPhone
“obsession” among journalists with Twitter. becuz they use it to communicate w/ each other? - clive boulton
well said Dan - clive boulton
Then Twitter needs to get behind the big TV and Sporting Events for Ad Dollars - Moe Glitz from iPhone
News Corp should forget about Time Warner and acquire Twitter - Moe Glitz from iPhone
How did Murdoch miss this play. Too interested in collecting trophy properties? - clive boulton
Notifications, The Gospel according to Steve - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Well it is Sunday - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Fat lady is taking a long time to sing that final song in Redmond... - Frank Paynter
wow the lighting in here continues to suck. Im thinking about putting another window in - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert in Redmond did you pick up a new energy? - clive boulton
Microsoft only has the Enterprise to go after - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Moe, that's true, but another way to say it is that they have the Enterprise to retain. There are an awful lot of MS desktops in cubicle world. - Frank Paynter
to go after Enterprise, Microsoft has to go after consumers or be another Oracle / Salesforce - clive boulton
They may have to buy some Consumer based Enterprise Companies - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Clive: nope. Heh. - Robert Scoble
Especially Cloud based ones - Moe Glitz from iPhone
My pals who moved from Windows and SQL to Cortana and Bing are more excited. - clive boulton
I think Amazon should buy Microsoft... - Frank Paynter
I think Amazon may end up buying Xbox - clive boulton
And perhaps make a profit - Moe Glitz from iPhone
+1 Micro-audiences... -1 Notifications... how many of us are voluntarily going the way of Pavlov's pups? - Frank Paynter
That's because Robert has his Network Channel - Moe Glitz from iPhone
wha???? - Frank Paynter
Friends vs Followers. Friends wins everyday - Moe Glitz from iPhone
+duh, Steve... - Frank Paynter
facebook was already pretty big at bearhugcamp, and aral came and talked about it - Kevin Marks
'Friends' is emotionally more relevant than 'Follow', that's why Facebook is so easy to understand to make connection.. - Satyajit
on G+ people add non-friends. on FB people add friends? - clive boulton
Ha ha...let's face it, we all have about 10-15 conversation channels/apps on our devices, and we all have 'dial tone' on each? @Keith, I though you were working on a fix for all this crap? - J.C. Bouvier
"normals" are always surprised when I tell them that I follow people on twitter who I think are interesting, and that most of them are people who I don't know. - Darius Dunlap
ChatCenter is working out quite well. But still premature to think of it as solution. It will get there though. - Keith Teare
... and that none of them are "celebrities." ;-) - Darius Dunlap
darius - also weird when the "celebrities" follow back - Kevin Marks
That's why we use Followers cause of their knowledge and influence - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The information network - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Google+ is dead - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Kevin: Ha ha! - Darius Dunlap
The gent who pitched Google Wave - when he described - the message as the focus point...and that it should be platform agnostic, I think was right, how can we well tell a message to 'move' or exist on multiple channels - maybe iMessage can deliver in the iOS 8/Yosemite module integration...but now, 'effed'. - J.C. Bouvier
They have let Hangouts go and are now sinking to the bottom of the ocean - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Somebody needs to give @scobleizer a tickle! - Adnan
JC this is something we're looking at carefully in the indieweb indiewebcamp.com/POSSE - Kevin Marks
Or a "Poke" - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Tx, Kevin, will take a look! - J.C. Bouvier
he's gonna blow, folks!' - Tina Chase Gillmor
@tina, ha ha.... - J.C. Bouvier
@Robert, just for fun, try it in Instagram...or I should say, try replying... - J.C. Bouvier
One man's noise is another mans crucial information - Tony Stanislawski
Instagram isn't that interesting to me for a whole lot of reasons. And I have 26,000 followers there. - Robert Scoble
I mostly agree with Robert... but I HATE the Facebook algorithm and it is frustrating to know that I can't get my word out when I want to - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Robert do you use G+ Circles? - clive boulton
Tina, you nailed FB - clive boulton
Yes, I use G+ circles. They suck when compared to Facebook lists. - Robert Scoble
Tina: you can get the word out -- if you write awesome content. Most content on Facebook absolutely sucks. - Robert Scoble
@Robert Agree with you. Creating Twitter lists offers killer ROI. Esp when viewing stream in multi-channel - Dave Martin
And you can try to use Twitter to get word out and no one sees that either because they aren't online. I have 400,000 followers and only get a few thousand hits on any one post. - Robert Scoble
Srobleizer — I'd like to hear you tease apart that statement about G+ Circles vs. Facebook lists - Darius Dunlap
The real issue here is that human curation for each individual is still better than a ala carte algorithm for all - Tony Stanislawski
Ha Scobleizer, of course. :-) - Darius Dunlap
+1 FB content suks - clive boulton
clive: Facebook is 100x better than Twitter or Google+ on my screen. - Robert Scoble
Algorithms are early days, still - Darius Dunlap
I love how time and effort are frowned upon. I watched local news and world new last night for the first time in a year. My time was wasted. I could spend that hour tweaking my feed and viewing that and find it 100 times more valuable. - Tony Stanislawski
For normal people it's only Facebook and Twitter. Google+ is nowhere - Moe Glitz from iPhone
++Tony - Darius Dunlap
Robert your social graph so large its a personal recommender system - clive boulton
I recently realized that SOMEHOW i followed a whole bunch of people a few years ago on Twitter, quite by mistake, and I had no idea it happened. I had to go through my follow list and weed out. Im still not done - Tina Chase Gillmor
Did someone mention "Track" - Moe Glitz from iPhone
at least a tail - Tina Chase Gillmor
Big stories bubble to the top if you follow the right folks on Twitter - Tony Stanislawski
I've bee cat-grabbed - Kevin Marks
Kty! - Darius Dunlap
Kitty! - Darius Dunlap
Dr Evil - Moe Glitz from iPhone
LoL! - Darius Dunlap
clive: my social graph is both large and small, thanks to lists. - Robert Scoble
cat is now swiping trackpad - Kevin Marks
The biggest mess in tech is yahoo - Moe Glitz from iPhone
People come back to places that send them away - Dave Winer - Dave Martin
Hasn't Marissa Mayer brought enough shoes - Moe Glitz from iPhone
one of my cats started playing a youtube Yoga video today. I kid you not - Tina Chase Gillmor
I am now covered in cat hair - Kevin Marks
Google+ feels popular with folks publishing quality content: researchers / developers / academics - clive boulton
our house is all about pet hair. We decided to make it a home fashion statement - Tina Chase Gillmor
For those who, like me, are so disconnected from the haps that they thought "Nuzzle" was just a generally snuggly thing, I offer the following link (and the side comment that I wish people would learn to spell): http://nuzzel.com/ - Frank Paynter
we have poodles so no shedding from them - Kevin Marks
missed the party. usually go - Tina Chase Gillmor
missed you there - Kevin Marks
We had friends at the Ritz, was awesome. So skipped TC - Robert Scoble
Steve is showing his inner hippie :) - Tony Stanislawski
if you watch the Tricaster screen you can see who i queue up for the next shot... potentially - Tina Chase Gillmor
So, Twitter doesn't understand that this is an engagement ecosystem? They think that only the monetization event matters? - Darius Dunlap
Steves reasoning is why I think Twitter is here to stay..... - Tony Stanislawski
Thats why I had the smile.... - Tony Stanislawski
Or wink...LOL - Tony Stanislawski
Money is a trailing variable - Dave Martin
Hi Dave Winer - Tony Stanislawski
Still wondering why you blocked me on Twitter and Facebook I love following and interacting with you.... - Tony Stanislawski
borking our editorial decision making - Tina Chase Gillmor
FB / Cupid abuse: does Respect Network have half a chance? https://www.respectnetwork.com/ - clive boulton
no, clive - Kevin Marks
It overstates what they were actually doing. - Darius Dunlap
Respect is just another silo attempt - Kevin Marks
some of us post tech and non-tech - Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin: I do like Personal Datastore / Camlistore 0.8 coming GCP ready - clive boulton
Basically both Facebook and Twitter are User Generated Content Sites. It's down to which of the two sites that gets the better value from our content - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I don't mind having ad's in my Camlistore if I control what I share [Respect] - clive boulton
Darius: I think Twitter dos understand that it is an engagement AND monetization ecosystem. But for them volume of engagements is driven in a poor way. They do not yet have the ability to deliver quality engagement consistently - Keith Teare
In combination they are really really great! - Tony Stanislawski
same same - Tina Chase Gillmor
buy your competition - Tina Chase Gillmor
not swarm - Tina Chase Gillmor
Wow did not expect that Kevin - Tony Stanislawski
Slack...yes - J.C. Bouvier
Oh ok that makes more sense Kevin - Tony Stanislawski
slack is awesome! Our whole team is always on it. - Satyajit
Where do I check now: Swarm or 4sq? - clive boulton
Anyone using Asana w/Slack? - J.C. Bouvier
Seems like Foursquare has checked out of check-ins - Moe Glitz from iPhone
clive: you have to use Swarm. - Robert Scoble
New Foursquare is coming out soon to compete with Yelp - Tony Stanislawski
Keith - That's the way I hint of it, but it isn't always apparent from their actions and statements. - Darius Dunlap
ever since foursquare spin off swarm... i hardly use it - Tina Chase Gillmor
Moe - yes. - clive boulton
Called Help, Tony - Moe Glitz from iPhone
You can also have private groups as opposed to channels and integrate services with them - Satyajit
++ Sweet Spot - Darius Dunlap
I've been using FB Messenger for chatting in a small group - Tina Chase Gillmor
They should become App.net? ;-) - Darius Dunlap
Yea FB messenger can do this...Google Chat, G+ you name it - Tony Stanislawski
Robert: thats what I thought, when Swarm showed up, but yesterday check in with 4sq (i think) - clive boulton
You can still check in 4sq until the new app comes out soon - Tony Stanislawski
Tony, ah thx - clive boulton
I'm getting that! - Darius Dunlap
Is Windows phone still doomed if bing Cortana takes off? - clive boulton
Cortana can live as an iOS or Android App - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Does Microsoft sell off Nokia faster than Google sold Motorola? - clive boulton
Apple doing deals with IBM & Microsoft. WTF - Moe Glitz from iPhone
May have needed Nokia to get Cortana patents - clive boulton
Apple deals with IBM and Microsoft allow Apple to address those markets without having to build up their own capability for those markets. - Darius Dunlap
Apple wants to sell to People, not Enterprise. - Darius Dunlap
Is Cortana what Siri meant to be http://cliveboulton.com/search... - clive boulton
By 2020 there will be no Enterprise. It will be all about people - Moe Glitz from iPhone
that's another thing I like about Slack - it assumes I can be part of multiple teams by default, not just one employer - Kevin Marks
The future will be all about Personal Assistants - Moe Glitz from iPhone
WWDC releases made clear that more and more of Apple's internal capabilities will be released to developers as they mature. I expect similar will happen with Siri. - Darius Dunlap
Bob done right! LOL - Frank Paynter
Redmond is staffing up an Android team https://plus.google.com/u... - clive boulton
Cortana can win as being an App on all platforms - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Cortana's replacing the Paperclip in Office? She's definitely sexier. - SImonB
I was hoping Keith would take it back to this... - Darius Dunlap
I'm happy with an attractive personal productivity assistant - clive boulton
Sure they will... IBM will sell it. - Darius Dunlap
Large traditional enterprises are a trailing indicator. - Darius Dunlap
If agent become entry points, like search engines, then they will be a monetisation point. But that's a crude use case, thus should be about improved interfaces that move beyond devices and into the environment. - SImonB
I got Steve to a beach TWICE! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina - LOL - Darius Dunlap
Nuiku, Cortana for Salesforce... https://www.nuiku.com/ - clive boulton
Needs a new name clive - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I do that , Too - Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, too much Bob in Nuiku: Nicki - clive boulton
$24 billion in the last quarter? Good reminder @Dan Farber. - Frank Paynter
! hello Nuiku: Where is Benioff :( - clive boulton
! hello Nicki: Where is Benioff :) - clive boulton
But you kept posting, Robert? Because you left town? - Darius Dunlap
I would have thought earthquake - Tina Chase Gillmor
Will you put any videos of your Microsoft trip online Robert? - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Robert's making the case for Google Balloons - clive boulton
San Francisco Fail Whale - Moe Glitz from iPhone
suddenly you need the ham radio people - Kevin Marks
Kevin - Indeed. - Darius Dunlap
CB Radio - Moe Glitz from iPhone
this time of year you get real whales at the coast - Kevin Marks
like CB radio :) - clive boulton
Moe I already did on Facebook. You really need to watch me on Facebook. :-) http://www.facebook.com/roberts... - Robert Scoble
Kevin, I've seen several whales, really great. - Robert Scoble
Slack, Camlistore, Respect Network, Indieweb/POSSE, Nuzzel... FailWhale watching... thanks everyone for all the clues today. - Frank Paynter
this is what I felt being on a cruise ship - Tina Chase Gillmor
+1 Robert - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The Greys come in pretty close. - Darius Dunlap
+1 Frank - clive boulton
The cruise ship industry is "missing the boat" to not "give" wifi out to customers. they are missing a lot of social media promotion by trying to make a stupid buck - Tina Chase Gillmor
Gillmor Fail Whale By The Beach - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I wish I could "like" comments here in the chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
We were at the track in Del Mar yesterday and had no iPhone connectivity. Wondered why... - Frank Paynter
hey kevins oranges are all green in the background - Adnan
Tina: indeed: I won't take a cruise w/o wifi. - clive boulton
Frank, thanks for the list of stuff we talked about. Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble
that's the fresh crop, still some orange ones higher up and on the other tree - Kevin Marks
Clive... they offer wifi.... for a price - Tina Chase Gillmor
Damn...have to go back to work on that project now! Thanks, as always, GG. - Tom Guarriello
I'll bet, wifi rates like Sheraton Hotels - clive boulton
Great show everyone - Moe Glitz from iPhone
RT @Scobleizer: Gillmor Gang is moving to Sunday at 11 this week only, see you then. @stevegillmor
Tx for the note guys, have a great weekend... - J.C. Bouvier
RT @TinaGillmor: @stevegillmor catching up w/ email @Starbucks during our cruise trip. Good air conditioning & wifi. https://twitter.com/TinaGil...
RT @Scobleizer: .@matty652 @stevegillmor sorry, no Gillmor Gang today. Steve is traveling.
RT @NewTekInc: Dr. Andrew Cross Named President of NewTek; TriCaster chief architect will set strategic direction for the company: http://newtek.com/news-ev...
RT @timoreilly: #oscon keynotes streamed live at http://www.oscon.com/oscon20..., starting at 9 am Pacific. I'm on at 10.
Gillmor Gang: Yotifications - http://techcrunch.com/2014...
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