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Gillmor Gang: Live from betaday - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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This Gillmor Gang was recorded live at betaday, the betaworks annual gathering in New York. The Gillmor Gang included John Borthwick, Robert Scoble, Douglas Rushkoff, Paul Davison, and Steve Gillmor. Enjoy.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 05.16.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, Paul Davidson, John Borthwick, Douglas Rushkoff, and Steve Gillmor. Recorded live from New York City BetaDay conference 11am Pacific/2pm EST.
- Steve Gillmor
you guys just throwing the stream up for grins?
- Jerry Schuman
maybe the guys will see chat anyway
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cool, they're doing a remote GG from IO. Awesome
- Jerry Schuman
not IO - from NY BetaDay
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ok.. just saw the post on G+. Sorry about that. Too bad the stream keeps dropping for me.
- Jerry Schuman
hmm i have solid stream here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Could be me.. I've reboot Chrome. It's been giving me issues lately.
- Jerry Schuman
Gillmor Gang: Windows Too Late - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Robert Scoble, John Taschek, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, and Steve Gillmor — broke from the gate and never let up in a barnburner of a show about the post-Jobs era. Will Google assume the mantle of leadership from an aging Apple, or is this just an evolutionary step along across the stream of innovation triggered by the iPhone/iPad? There's plenty of data on both sides of this coin. Certainly Google Glass has triggered a lot of the same atmospherics that accompanied Apple's storming of the Microsoft barricades. Every day we see the wreckage of the PC era float past us as our thoughts shift from Windows to Web to apps. Mobile has won the war for our hearts and minds. As Adam said to Eve: Stand back, we don't know how big this is going to get.
- Steve Gillmor
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Gillmor Gang live
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hello
- Keith Teare
I'm here ...
- John Taschek
hello GG folks... get ready... set...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
3,2,1
- Kevin Costain
I was there yesterday - well computer History Museum
- Kevin Marks
Keith... I have no idea why but your video feed is being chopped off at my end... not your fault but Ive never seen this happenh before
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry Keith
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Longtime GG fan. First time live though, all the way from New Zealand @belindasimcox
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
And Facebook is using Bing.
- Nir Ben Yona
Maybe angle so your head is touching top of screen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Welcome Belinda thanks for joining
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert, does the Wink app picture taking make a noise?
- Kevin Costain
Eye Wink http://techcrunch.com/2013...
- Murray Macdonald
Yeah I hate that crap too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, hated this for years: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2009...
- Kevin Marks
How not to be Viral: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2008...
- Kevin Marks
Is the stream dropping packets for anyone else?
- Jerry Schuman
Automated emails should be required to identify themselves as such.
- Murray Macdonald
Agreed Murray.
- Robert Scoble
+Kevin Costain: yes, the wink app, when it works, chimes as it takes a photo and the projector lights up.
- Robert Scoble
looks rock steady here Jerry. but know that I've said that....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
looks good for me.
- Murray Macdonald
LOL Robert, you're such a google+ addict (re: +kevin).
- Nir Ben Yona
is email social?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
haha.. @nir, I didn't see that immediately.
- Kevin Costain
for some people. I know mailing list fans
- Kevin Marks
I wonder, what value could Google extract from "Glass" if they were able to track what you LOOK at?
- Kevin Costain
Apple is at single digit growth in a market growing at 40% http://venturebeat.com/2013...
- Murray Macdonald
Tina. Yes I think email is. You message others. Got to be social
- Keith Teare
well, they can broadly - they have camera direction, not eye direction
- Kevin Marks
Moe: I think Tim is in over his head.
- Robert Scoble
It was the LaserWriter
- Jerry Schuman
The Amiga was ahead in hardware... The OS and experience were clunky.
- Murray Macdonald
Hi everyone :)
- Charlie Isaacs
no doubt it was Pagemaker and LaserWriter that killed the Amiga
- Jerry Schuman
<blush>
- Murray Macdonald
I wish I could +1 some of the comments here, like Jerry's. Facebook and Google+ have really improved how comments work.
- Robert Scoble
hi belinda
- Kevin Marks
Reputation-based real-time reporting like Waze does with traffic and police activity will be the future
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft is highly profitable... http://www.theverge.com/2013...
- Murray Macdonald
It probably didn't hurt that I bought around 5000 macs for Hughes Aircraft either
- Jerry Schuman
boy that was bad grammar on my part :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Yeah, why are we using FF for comments still?
- Jerry Schuman
Because it works.
- Murray Macdonald
It's not tea time yet Kevin
- Jerry Schuman
it's always tea time
- Kevin Marks
Kevin has a beautiful tea pot today. Love it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I should have used the matching teacups
- Kevin Marks
so English
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm cross posting to the 10 Meter band using Morse code Jerry Schuman
- Charlie Isaacs
My programmer buddies are over 50% Andoird. It's easier to develop for.
- Murray Macdonald
I remember when the OS switch happend in early 2000 for OSX. The years prior EmergingTech show was 90% PC... next year it flipped on it's head.
- Jerry Schuman
And... Yahoo just bought the 4th startup for this week. Astrid, GoPollGo, Milewise, and now Loki Studios.
- Nir Ben Yona
the iPhone is too small
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin - I remember everyone saying the iPhone 5 was too big :)
- Kevin Costain
Did Robert just realtime correct a swear?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
well, it's too thick, but the screen is too small
- Kevin Marks
You mean another Steve Jobs?
- Christian Burns
yes, Tina, did you hit the dump button in time :)
- Charlie Isaacs
7 Second Scoble delay :)
- Kevin Costain
We are moving at 65 MPH and Scoble wants us to be driving at 100 mph
- Christian Burns
OSI vs. TCP/IP don't bring back bad memories ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Apple is sleepy while the HTML5 and JS communities are moving at lightspeed. New platforms are popping up everywhere. The launch of the harp.io platform is exciting.
- Murray Macdonald
no new Beatles? Steve is obviously not a Belieber
- Charlie Isaacs
I want my jetpack
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Self driving cars will revolutionize delivery and economics. Products will transport themselves and night.
- Murray Macdonald
Ditto Tina. The Jetsons over promised
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
Wait till the hackers get ahold of your self driving car
- Jerry Schuman
Government regulation is what will keep the poor from being able to afford self driving cars
- Christian Burns
After market for self driving cars will be huge
- Jerry Schuman
What about self-driving car lanes?
- Kevin Costain
the Jetsons brought us Facetime
- Charlie Isaacs
I drive all day for my job, and try my best to emulate a google self driving car.
- Christian Burns
I'm going to get off Friendfeed and wait outside for Scoble's car to come pick me up. see you guys
- Charlie Isaacs
Robert is 100% right
- Murray Macdonald
BTW: hard to believe but the Knowledge Navigator vision came out sans Steve. That was Sculley's era
- Jerry Schuman
Apple wont show it until it is beautiful.
- Christian Burns
seriously though, Google fails forward extremely well. Even if self-driving car and Glass fail, they (and we) are learning so much from these. And from all of the other projects they shuttered.
- Charlie Isaacs
NeXT brought Steve Jobs back. Apple needed a new OS.
- Murray Macdonald
though the Apple Media Lab people who made Knowledge Navigator were hired in the Jobs era
- Kevin Marks
Jerry is right on, open source aftermarket self driving delivery trike.
- Christian Burns
Tweet that
- Kevin Costain
Newton was actually based on some R&D I worked on regarding expert systems. I was sorely disappointed it failed.
- Jerry Schuman
Steve's comment about processors catching up is spot on... that's what will happen with Glass and self-driving car
- Charlie Isaacs
Deliver me to work while I get some work done. My scooter would get 100 mpg
- Christian Burns
Hey Data Soup.... YAY!
- Jerry Schuman
Palm pilot was fun
- Christian Burns
data soup was so damn slow
- Kevin Marks
I knew you'd chime in Kevin ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
I had one of those Kyocera Palm flip phones.. amazing phone..
- Kevin Costain
Believe in open standards... Why limit it to two companies?
- Murray Macdonald
Cause he was listening to people Like Steve Gillmor and John Taschek
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jobs, like Benioff, had/have a rare combination of creative/technical/vision/marketing skills and they knew/know to hire people to make their dreams come true
- Charlie Isaacs
Products that change us and how we do things becoume part of our lives and we just cant live without them
- Christian Burns
Google is hiring all the futurists
- Christian Burns
Facebook delivered a revolution in a browser, using open standards, not a corporate platform. Only cross-platform developments can access everyone given the fragmentation.
- Murray Macdonald
and people like Charlie Isaacs and Kevin Marks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The mobile phone market was a far more lucrative and far more ready to disrupt vs. a tablet
- Jerry Schuman
Steve remade narratives all the time
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is right.
- Robert Scoble
Does the camera really make it look like I gained 10 lbs, or did I actually gain 20...
- John Taschek
1+ Jerry
- Christian Burns
what Steve's saying about the iPhone-- I believe that was confirmed in Isaacson's book about Jobs
- Charlie Isaacs
I'll agree with the phone argument from Jerry.
- John Taschek
But notebooks -- going all the way back to the first "ultraportables" (Zenith) are even in more need to be disrupted. They're not mobile the way people think of mobile now.
- John Taschek
Nice shot of Kevin's cat Tina :)
- Charlie Isaacs
We switched out our dell laptop for an ASUS
- Christian Burns
The story is the key. If you can't tell a story about something, the something probably won't exist for long.
- John Taschek
Our laptops are used to Netflix at our house.
- Christian Burns
poor Kevin, the cat is trying to eat him today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
she's trying to shed on me I think
- Kevin Marks
Keith is completely on target re: the narrative.
- John Taschek
Apple's 1st phone was developed by Hartmut Esslinger in 1983 http://mashable.com/2011...
- Murray Macdonald
Apps was the new narrative.
- John Taschek
I also believe there was a deep desire to hurt Microsoft in the mobile space. Windows Mobile destruction was a nice carrot
- Jerry Schuman
there were apple phone adaptors in the 90s
- Kevin Marks
Google is building what changes our lives
- Christian Burns
If I think like Scoble, he should be talking about the new narrative as being Context. Who has the best "Context?"
- John Taschek
Google
- Christian Burns
queue Robert's book pitch "Context"
- Jerry Schuman
Google is paying attention to notification in depth http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
- Kevin Marks
I'm talking into a cat
- Kevin Marks
I think about Samsung and all the assets they have (appliances, heavy industry, cash). Google - future. Apple - ecosystem, love, belief. Microsoft -- history....
- John Taschek
Wait - it's the Catphone!
- John Taschek
Office is dead
- Christian Burns
would you hold a cat to your ear?
- Kevin Marks
Long live Office
- Jerry Schuman
What happened to Scoble's "Apple"is where all the Apps are developed!?
- Kevin Costain
Office is alive and well. MS made 6B last quarter.
- Murray Macdonald
The always on nature of mobile phones provides the data usage that miners and telcos live on. The "phone" becomes another network node of messaging, socializing,and consuming.
- Aron Michalski
Phil Shriller?
- Kevin Marks
Long live free Office 97 disks borrowed from my uncle
- Christian Burns
show title?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"A cat in my tea"
- Murray Macdonald
Aron, Verizon shared data has moved my data usage to time shifted downloads, again.
- Christian Burns
Google doesn't have products... I'll say it again.
- Jerry Schuman
trying to be a web company while trying to be what?
- Kevin Marks
They have systems that feed their AI
- Jerry Schuman
@Tina, Apps and a Cat
- christina sponselli
+1 Jerry
- Christian Burns
HTML5/JS apps are the next battlefield.
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin's calico is caressing his face with her tail. she's sweet for him
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cat's got his toungue
- Charlie Isaacs
HTML is a "Marks" Up Language ...
- John Taschek
Christina - not bad
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Mozilla OS is what would be nice to put on my Rasberry Pi
- Christian Burns
I have to jump in 5 mins
- Keith Teare
Yeah it takes you to Chrome, Youtube, etc.
- Nir Ben Yona
now can you throw a Beatles song aroud that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What has dramatically changed is how decoupled and loose systems have become. Granular feature focus tied to RESTFULL comms
- Jerry Schuman
The JS community is on fire. It's moving faster than anything. ObjectC is a drag, and Java is android only.
- Murray Macdonald
Keith we do too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Andoird Intents are amazing. JS is the answer that bridges all devices.
- Murray Macdonald
new video codec in js this week
- Kevin Marks
Agree on the Intents Murray -- what a concept, multi-tasking
- Charlie Isaacs
What OS will your emedded systems run? Embedded in your body?
- Christian Burns
Apple will introduce an intents equivalent at WWDC I'll be money on that
- Kevin Marks
The web is the delivery channel for REST. REST is the magic all these platform apps and JS cross platform apps. JS is the language showing the growth.
- Murray Macdonald
JSON is good too
- Kevin Marks
I am spending almost all day with data turned off on my nexus, to save battery.
- Christian Burns
Agreed Kevin Marks.
- Murray Macdonald
It's all a giant compound document. The future is Cyberdog
- Jerry Schuman
Family plan streaming, up to 4 streams at once.
- Christian Burns
JSON to app and app to JSON is great
- Keith Teare
you don't see bittorrent in traffic stats anymore as its more efficient and encrypted
- Kevin Marks
and yet everythign yo usee is in html
- Kevin Marks
Save the web, use time shifted downloads.
- Christian Burns
Html rendered in a round format
- Christian Burns
just google it
- Christian Burns
Moe, is that your show title idea?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the web was always centered on information but market adoption focused on the marketing "brochure" side of things. It's just going back to its origin
- Jerry Schuman
Remember when Scoble and Marks were not on Gillmor gang?
- Christian Burns
Great gang as always.....
- Jerry Schuman
Fabulous tuning in live. I'll be back!
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
Fun show, thanks for joining us again!
- Robert Scoble
Great show
- Christian Burns
Thanks! Great weekend everyone.
- Nir Ben Yona
It beats being on Bloomberg http://www.bloomberg.com/video...
- Robert Scoble
Thank you EVERYONE!!1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Loved your TNW keynote by the way Robert http://thenextweb.com/video...
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
Robert is great on bloomberg,
- Christian Burns
Can someone explain to me the meaning behind the Gilmoor Gang comment concerning Adam and Eve. What do Adam and Eve have in common with Steve Jobs? Is the future of computing really going to be all tablets and laptop? No more netbooks or even desktops? In 20 years, is everyone going to be wearing a computer on their physical body?
- Lamar Morgan
Gillmor Gang Live 05.10.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, John Taschek, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 1:30pm Pacific time.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang: Glass Onion - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, and Steve Gillmor — well, we talked Google Glass. @scobleizer has certainly made the case for the life-altering shower-taking scenarios, but what the Gang got into was what happens next. Do we wait for the actual launch early next year, or is the die already cast with this alpha rollout? One thing for sure: there's plenty to unravel in this second Glass hour in a row.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live
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hi. Here's today's show!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hello - no link to the video though
- Kevin Marks
Watch it live here: http://www.building43.com/realtim...
- Robert Scoble
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
That pic went VIRAL robert.... i was both scared and proud at the same time
- Matthew Voshell
Tesla + Apple? http://www.bloomberg.com/news...
- Matthew Voshell
Wink to take a photo #Glass
- Nir Ben Yona
hey everyone...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Graph Search gonna give Google headaches https://www.facebook.com/notes...
- clive boulton
@kevin Facebook seems to be trying to figure out how to take all that traffic and turn it into money... unlike ost companies who know how to make money and are trying to get traffic..... what does that say?
- Matthew Voshell
@clive I tried graph search... it "works" but I never use it...
- Matthew Voshell
Hey all
- Christian Burns
from Android
Name the show? "Pooping in Public"?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Too early to tell Tina! Needs to ripen a bit. ;)
- Alex de Soto
Keith, I also had an internet cafe in the same time period with CU-SeeMe in SoCal
- Jerry Schuman
Segway came up against the same type of regulatory scrutiny that glass will.
- Jerry Schuman
yes Alex but Pooping inPublic is a contender already
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble is spot on
- Christian Burns
"Walked outside with Google Glass for the first time. Stepped in dog poop almost immediately. Pretty sure this is what the future is like." Aaron Gotwalt
- Kevin Marks
I would rather have a google watch,
- Christian Burns
I dont want my kids to grow up using glass
- Christian Burns
You will be assimulated
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin hahahahaha
- Matthew Voshell
Jerry - Awesome
- Keith Teare
Just proves how old we are ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
so looking forward to Glass, my neck hurts having to constantly look down at my phone
- Da
Because kids dont have enough access to video games..
- Christian Burns
@Matthew Google search became terribly boring, link results too predictable or gamed. Graph Search much more interesting. FB engineering paper explains why.
- clive boulton
The issue is CPU speed vs. battery life.
- Murray Macdonald
That thing looks fragil. Think I might break it quickly
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"There is no Moore’s Law for batteries."
- Alex de Soto
Vuzix M-100 is $499 and it has better CPU specs. http://www.vuzix.com/consume...
- Murray Macdonald
stopgap battery measure - mini usb plug to a usb external battery
- Da
Playing Ice Hockey with Google Glass http://youtu.be/Md1rfj0mhEs
- Nir Ben Yona
@Da They might need to figure out how to cool the CPU when Glass is attached to an external battery.
- Alex de Soto
You can't write local apps... My understanding is all 3rd party apps are in the cloud. Is that not true? Can you install a local app?
- Murray Macdonald
you need to hack it to write local apps yes
- Kevin Marks
the Mirror API is all cloud
- Kevin Marks
It occurs to me that the feedback from wearing this device is where the real product is going to come from.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Vuzix allows real local apps on the device...
- Murray Macdonald
Glass camera should recognize a limited set of gestures but ignore others, like fly swats for example.
- Alex de Soto
The fact it works at all is awesome. Main discussion is, is it ready?
- Keith Teare
And is it the right way to incorporate computing into the person
- Keith Teare
what I mean is that the things people discover in using the early product will create main features and dictate what this product looks and feels like eventually. Might be a "duh" statement but real important here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
so as good as google voice recognition on android
- Christian Burns
agree Tina
- Christian Burns
That was excellent speech recognition. Say "period" to end a sentence.
- Murray Macdonald
better than Siri then?
- Kevin Marks
Because of context....
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin, different than Siri.
- Robert Scoble
Glass is just like every other Google "product". Nothing more then another input to their global information AI. It will go the way of Reader as soon as it's signal to noise ratio is bad.
- Jerry Schuman
virtual keyboard floating in front of you? plenty of times when i don't want to talk out loud
- Da
I almost never want to talk out loud to a gadget
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: this slide shows that both Siri and Google sucks: https://plus.google.com/photos...
- Robert Scoble
The camera belongs on the head. You can't easily turn your chest...
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin: you will with this one. You can control it with your finger too.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, now I understand that the Star Trek uniforms are more due to the technology built in and less to do with military/government
- Tina Chase Gillmor
AirPlay? You mean Wifi Direct? The last thing we need is a proprietary standard when open standards exist.
- Murray Macdonald
that didn't work as a link robert
- Kevin Marks
like wifi direct, but functionally limited
- Keith Teare
airplay currently better
- Keith Teare
took me to my instant uploads
- Kevin Marks
Better how? AirPlay is limited... As a developer Wifi Direct will do what you want...
- Murray Macdonald
google can start to look for your face and see what you are looking at,
- Christian Burns
Same goes for humans... Try being named Macdonald, not McDonald. 90% human failure.
- Murray Macdonald
"Send full info to my living room Google TV" would be cool. Or to AirPlay....
- Alex de Soto
Screen sharing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google manages both MacDonald and McDonald
- Kevin Marks
the golden arches and the golden archs
- Matthew Voshell
WiFi direct is capable of much more than screens; any p2p communications between apps. If the eyepiece, camera, phone and such are going to collaborate together, you need much more than screen sharing. You need an open p2p API
- Murray Macdonald
i want multiple windows on my Glass. no external, multiple physical screens wanted
- Da
Google not tuning for personal nuances opens up for competition
- clive boulton
They are also using the SnowCrash paradigm
- Christian Burns
Doesnt that one samsung device allow multiple screens? on a phone? seems stupid
- Matthew Voshell
keith getting noisy again
- Kevin Marks
multiple screens on an iPad would eb more sensible than 3/4 of the screen being black
- Kevin Marks
dual windows on the Galaxy Note 2 is awesome
- Da
Bluetooth is too slow, unless it uses wifi. Wifi direct is all that and more... AirPlay is the new FaceTime. A proprietary flavor of a generic ability.
- Murray Macdonald
GoogleWave
- Murray Macdonald
I got Steve Hill Mall
- Kevin Marks
Google is working on an open alternative to Airplay that will also integrate with DLNA http://gigaom.com/2012...
- Mark Krynsky
Xbox IllumiRoom Project http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Da
It's called WifiDirect. Samsung phones share photos and videos...
- Murray Macdonald
That blackberry screen sharing was cool; google hang out has it too...
- Matthew Voshell
Reflector is pretty cool.
- Alex de Soto
Just played with the Blackberry Z10 the other week. Awesome device (comes from an iphone fan).
- Nir Ben Yona
@Nir.... i feel the same way... so sad
- Matthew Voshell
@Matthew: I hope to see a real change by the summer. Whether it's a new iphone device or a completely revamped iOS 7 platform
- Nir Ben Yona
Anyone also see the parallel to the novel Deamon and Freedom TM?
- Christian Burns
switch the camera back keith
- Steve Gillmor
I'd rather have a device I can write local computer vision application on... Everything in the cloud is going to make everything latent. The problem is battery life...
- Murray Macdonald
Arrington is playing Dots I see
- Kevin Marks
"They" should get out of the way. Writing filters should be open to the 3rd party market. Notifications and "page rank" are proprietary solutions the 3rd party market can't innovate on. Let others write filters....
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin's birdies sing pretty songs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OK time to name the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What's this Close Friends trick? Is there a blog post about it?
- Evan Prodromou
@Nir yea, Sir Jonny is hard at work, rumors point at a simplier design (ala google) and more continuty across softeware and hardware.... idk, i'm excited i think he's a visionary
- Matthew Voshell
When's the next show?
- Murray Macdonald
if you mark someone a close friend, you get notifications of all their posts
- Kevin Marks
I'm ready for $200!!
- Da
Jean Luc Picard Proticals
- Christian Burns
Earl Grey Tea, Hot
- Kevin Marks
Ok, Glass, Earl Gray Tea hot
- Christian Burns
Why can't his computer remember the prefs? Enterprise software.
- Kevin Marks
I want my air screen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No third party apps
- Christian Burns
Everyone on this show already wears something... Glasses are pretty common.
- Murray Macdonald
thats a fashion thing too though. At one point contact lenses were taking over
- Kevin Marks
When's the next show?
- Murray Macdonald
@Matthew He definitely is.
- Nir Ben Yona
Friday at 1pm Pacific
- Christian Burns
YESSSS.... this should be be so easier if you did a Hangout On--Air... then robert should broadcast what he sees!
- Matthew Voshell
If there every is going to even be another show
- Christian Burns
good
- siddharth
Gillmor Gang Live 05.03.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 1pm Pacific.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 04.24.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Danny Sullivan, John Taschek, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 10am Pacific.
- Steve Gillmor
OMg... Studio erupted in problems. but things are getting straight.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I notice you aren't quite live:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
did you try calling back?
- Kevin Marks
techcrunch page gives error
- Keith Teare
still error on TC?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the story has disappeared
- Keith Teare
how about now Keith?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it was unbelievably real and interesting to me
- Tina Chase Gillmor
shouldn't we rename our phones "communicators"?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
tricorders ...
- John Taschek
looking-glasses
- Kevin Marks
I think communicator says voice, video, photo, posting, calling, texting, etc
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Communicator was also a name for a failed Netscape product. Why it failed -- probably no mobile ...
- John Taschek
too many syllables
- Kevin Marks
i have to sign off...
- John Taschek
yes too many. let's keep thinking. need to coin a new word here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we may end up with 'screen'
- Kevin Marks
bye John
- Tina Chase Gillmor
post of mine on news stuff http://epeus.blogspot.com/2009...
- Kevin Marks
screen is not bad
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The police scanner is just another form of twitter
- Kevin Marks
Communicator is what just.me is
- Keith Teare
Check this out - http://www.just.me/convers...
- Keith Teare
I guess you've changed your broadcast day... Is there a place where I can find out when the next show is?
- Murray Macdonald
We will be doing one shortly. At 1:10 p.m. on Fridays.
- Robert Scoble
Gillmor Gang: Watertown - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Danny Sullivan, Dan Farber, Kevin Marks, John Taschek, and Steve Gillmor — note the intersection of social and mainstream medias as the events in Boston unfolded in real time. What has been framed as a competition became something more, as Twitter streams, scanner apps, and local news streams meshed with CNN et al. Inspired curation by @dannysullivan produced an authoritative feed of credible crowdsourced updates. Tweeters at the scene produced wry commentary on reporter exaggeration, eventually encouraging a hybrid blend of real time speed and news judgement. Our thoughts remain with the brave and resilient people of Watertown, Cambridge, and Boston.
- Steve Gillmor
Donald Fagen On Letterman - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Gillmor Gang: Kaleidoscope Eyes - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, John Taschek, and Steve Gillmor — pictured themselves in a boat on a river, as the first wave of Google Glass hit the network, aka Scoble's forehead. @scobleizer promises to never take off this thing, and even the hyperbole doesn't refute the central notion. The whole world is not only watching but feeding the realtime stream. Social meets mainstream.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 04.20.13 - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, John Taschek, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 9am Pacific.
- Steve Gillmor
still making coffee
- clive boulton
Well this is interesting.
- Evan Prodromou
Glasshole edition!
- Alex de Soto
from iPhone
morning all!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wipe the cobwebs out of youreeyes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
whoa. i just woke up.
- Laura Norvig
does it adjust with the amount of ambient light?
- christina sponselli
Google glass as chick magnet. OK.
- Laura Norvig
it's the new puppy dog
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin is missing. APB for Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
So we are looking at a decade before it is mainstream?
- Brian Sullivan
Robert: Mono sound monitoring but stereo recording? How do you like the bone conductor speaker?
- Alex de Soto
from iPhone
Oh oh - life changing? I have heard that before from Robert - I guess his antenna have improved since I last heard it?
- Brian Sullivan
steve is gonna love it... when he uses it he's gonna love it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hi, I'm here now
- Kevin Marks
He's never going to take them off!
- Laura Norvig
ok kevin bringing you in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
robert, what data does it send back to Google?
- christina sponselli
it sends the same data as an android phone
- Kevin Marks
ie lots
- Kevin Marks
@kevin, thanks.
- christina sponselli
"I'm never gonna take these off"
- clive boulton
What about on the flight -- presumably you will have to turn them off?
- Brian Sullivan
Show name? Through the Looking Glass?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
how are we going to stop people from grabbing them off your head and running? Hard enough to keep our phones from being stollen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Roberts head might explode
- Tina Chase Gillmor
true, Steve may wait for the IGlass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
scary
- nchenga
tascheksception
- Kevin Marks
True hands-free assistive applications. I think there's big potential there.
- Alex de Soto
mophie pack or solar hat.
- clive boulton
In soviet google, glass looks at you
- Kevin Marks
Taschekception - I like that. I live it.
- John Taschek
glan.se
- Laura Norvig
Sage and Agilent have R&D on Glass for enterprise notifications.
- clive boulton
Who makes the glass - Corning?
- John Taschek
it seems like notifications would drive you insane. would want them super selective.
- Laura Norvig
informative show, thanks.
- christina sponselli
Thanks!
- Nir Ben Yona
Adios muchacho(a)s
- Alex de Soto
Moore's Law had shifted to mobile now moved to glasses
- clive boulton
Gillmor Gang: Speculation, Music, Death - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Kevin Marks, John Taschek, Keith Teare, and Steve Gillmor — spared no expense to bring you the finest in up-to-date tech commentary. In other words, we tore into Twitter Music, ignored Facebook Home, dissected the internals of AirPlay, and cashed our Bitcoin checks. Our attention is a zero sum game, and whether it’s West Wing or Twitter pointers into the musicsphere, how we make our streaming choices will determine who the big winners are. What we’re really waiting for is the tipping point when the streamer artists crossover and recapture the idea that the creators are the real coin of the realm. @stevegillmor, @kteare, @kevinmarks, @jtaschek Produced and directed by Tina Chase Gillmor @tinagillmor
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 04.12.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Keith Teare, Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, John Taschek, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 1pm Pacific.
- Steve Gillmor
That was SxSW
- Matthew Voshell
then there's cochella and then austin city limits
- Matthew Voshell
Hi all
- Keith Teare
Hey Keith, how are things coming along with Just.Me?
- Matthew Voshell
hi all GG peeps!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
FreindFeed not working on my latest FireFox - Chrome more solid
- clive boulton
tweet-tweet says Kevin's birdies ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
A world-wide Euro?? ....and that did well
- Matthew Voshell
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
Flip. finding Gillmor Gang live is getting harder. I never know if its on or not.
- Michael Roberts
@Tina, some bitcoins for a shot of Kevin's poodle
- Ami
One of my monitors is blue.... void of reds. unfortunately, the red color shows me what's "hot"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Winklevoss twins take a loss couldn't happen to nicer PE guys
- clive boulton
Sounds like the "credits" portrayed in batman beyond
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew - good. We will be in the app store next week. Can't be specific due to NDAs
- Keith Teare
its just a transactional tool.
- Michael Roberts
If a virtual currency ever gets really big, government will step in and tax it.
- Ami
beta downloadable now
- Keith Teare
ami - If I see 'em, i'll show 'em
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Keith.. yea i've been curios to try it out but havent heard back about my early-access signup :/
- Matthew Voshell
it is money, and it is a bubble: http://unqualified-reservation...
- Kevin Marks
@Tina/Steve... Can we chat about CISPA getting through comittee and on the floor of the house?!?!
- Matthew Voshell
extraordinary popular delusions of alchemy
- Jerome Hughes
Michael Roberts.... it's USUALLy on at this time. you should consider this our usual time.... but sometimes we must veer ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'll send you an invite after the show.
- Keith Teare
Larry Summers sends Winklevoss twins packing http://youtu.be/haD1xUPHF7o
- clive boulton
Sweet!
- Matthew Voshell
I thought that the original concept with Bitcoin was making it very scarce, like gold, by means of the algorithm that creates more coin.
- Ami
Oh what the hell - i may as well jsut give you it here - http://just.me/gettheapp
- Keith Teare
the currency speculators won't be happy about it... that's an entire market
- Matthew Voshell
go for it Matthew... see it will bubble up for the Gang
- Tina Chase Gillmor
chatheads not showing up on my galaxy nexus
- Kevin Marks
maybe I should run an emulator
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Tina.. I kinda do.. it sorta sometimes works for me .. I sometimes see a tweet indicating there is gillmor and sometimes there isn't one as the case last week.. Ironically its almost impossible to search for gillmor gang on tech crunch.. I guess I'm the lucky one in the know.. but for sure almost everyone else has no clue.
- Michael Roberts
Bitcoin attracted the algorithmic Hedge fund managers http://coinlab.com/about
- clive boulton
@Keith... Is there an email addy for suggestions/feature requests?
- Matthew Voshell
Michael... we like to keep our show a "private club" ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
haha!
- Michael Roberts
@Kieth...nevermind foiund it in the app
- Matthew Voshell
music discovery on mobile has appeal.
- christina sponselli
Bandoftheday is what i use... http://bandofthedayapp.com/
- Matthew Voshell
I'm using vevo a lot more now too since they have a Roku and iPhone app... Def what youtube could have been if they did any curation.. and what MTV USED to be
- Matthew Voshell
do we remember turntable.fm ?
- Kevin Marks
Napster was a good app to share music too :)
- Matthew Voshell
Then the tweenies would push justin beiber to the top.... 75% of people like whatever is popular.. not what's good;
- Matthew Voshell
it's free advertising...
- Matthew Voshell
We are hunted sounds like Duran Duran
- Kevin Marks
EDM is booming.
- Kevin Marks
They had that chance and pissed on it
- Matthew Voshell
@Kevin... You're right, Ultra Music Festival Live Streamed both weekends on YouTube and displayed tweets onto the stage
- Matthew Voshell
Will there be any comment on Arrington. Sorry to bring it up. I kinda respect the lack of comment about it, but all of you know him and everyone who commented on this story has appeared on the Gillmor Gang.
- Michael Roberts
We are Hunted: We Are Hunted was a San Francisco based software company that developed proprietary search technology which continuously scanned the Internet to identify the hottest new music in the world. The company was founded by Stephen Phillips, Richard Slatter and Michael Doherty.
- John Taschek
iTunes match is an amazing feat... and I use it all the time
- Matthew Voshell
I use google play
- Kevin Marks
Look at what Louis C.K. is doing... they dont need the gatekeepers
- Matthew Voshell
Twitter music -- Roger McNamee shares Moonalice html5 music player crowd sourcing monetisation?
- clive boulton
ahhhh..... there's the Beatles reference
- Tina Chase Gillmor
His Steve hinting that the Beatles will get together again?
- Simon Tennant
They can use that Coachella holographic technique ...
- John Taschek
http://livehits.co.uk/ has "ding dong the witch is dead" at #1 and "I'm in Love with Margaret Thatcher" at #10
- Kevin Marks
they're not gone for the fanatics, except at the corporate level
- Jerome Hughes
if the trend holds, the Sex Pistols may hit #1 with God Save the Queen
- christina sponselli
Airplay is closed source but the key has been leaked.
- Simon Tennant
and a RaspberryPi makes a great Airplay receiver.
- Simon Tennant
Apple Lossless
- Jerome Hughes
Steve does love WestWing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The problem with House of cards IS bring viewing
- Michael Roberts
binge viewing
- Michael Roberts
Game of Thrones works as binge viewing
- Kevin Marks
better than not
- Kevin Marks
I'll loved House of Cards, but I want the next season now.. in a year I may not care.
- Michael Roberts
when will we be free of an internet connection/utility?
- Kevin Costain
@Keith... You can watch live soccer on FoxSoccer2Go or WatchEspn and Aljazeera English Live Streams thier broadcasts on thier website
- Matthew Voshell
I have cable because I have cable. No other real reason. I don't watch it. I even bought a season pass to MadMen so I could watch it via Airplay
- Francine Hardaway
Its weird watching this show pretending the Arrington story doesn't exist. Did I miss something.
- Michael Roberts
Arrington story is over, Michael
- Francine Hardaway
@Moe netflix IS a TV network... if anything comcast goes after it
- Matthew Voshell
FB use by teens down 9 pct - Piper Jaffray
- clive boulton
Philip DeFranco
- Kevin Bryan
Franince: Okay. then what's the conclusion? I missed it.
- Michael Roberts
CISPA!?!?!?
- Matthew Voshell
Jim Morrison is coming back as a hologram.
- Kevin Bryan
Arrington issued a letter from his lawyer showing that the day Jen Allen accused him of rape they were in different cities. See Uncrunched
- Francine Hardaway
Jaffray's report says Reddit, Vine, Snapchat, Kik, and 4chan are trending up w/ teens.
- clive boulton
They made that just for me
- Francine Hardaway
Just what my kids want; my old Google accounts
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: oh okay. I guess that settles things. btw. I issued a letter too.. I'm not against him at all. but sorry when does one trust a letter from a lawyer.
- Michael Roberts
inactivity =dead?
- Kevin Costain
Keith: I am trying to update your app and getting that spinning circle
- Francine Hardaway
Francine - delete the old one and restart. You possibly have too old a version
- Keith Teare
OK
- Francine Hardaway
Winer talks about this a lot
- Francine Hardaway
Zombies just came in
- Francine Hardaway
World War Z = great book. written by Mel Brooks' son
- christina sponselli
Christina - did not know that. Now I'll have to read it!
- John Taschek
Keith now can't find it by searching app store
- Francine Hardaway
@John, he also wrote a few other zombie books, too.
- christina sponselli
That's when I use it. Chrome crashes on me a lot.
- Francine Hardaway
it's this http://xkcd.com/1197/
- Kevin Marks
Quite enjoyed today's "Dark Shadows" show --- with lovely creaking door sound!
- Alex de Soto
name the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks everyone. love Fridays because I love this show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
think we ended the show too early today. Gang still talking to each other. ended the show 3 minutes ago
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it was a very short show
- Matthew Voshell
Gillmor Gang: Fork You - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — John Borthwick, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, John Taschek, and Steve Gillmor — spent a too-quick hour on Facebook Home, Twitter’s new deep linking Cards, and the jousting over Webkit. Individually, these developments represent interesting strategy for the major notification platforms of Google, Apple, Twitter, and Facebook. But taken together, we’re seeing an important moment of truth. With Facebook pulling a “kindle” by hijacking Android’s lockscreen for its notification engine, suddenly everybody has to get in line. Apple retains its AirPlay gateway to the big screen, but it’s Facebook not Google that threatens iOS’ fit and finish. And just in time for apps, Twitter sets in motion developer innovation linking app to app and eventually the Web, Look out Cleveland, a fork is coming through. @stevegillmor, @kteare, @kevinmarks, @borthwick, @jtaschek Produced and directed by Tina Chase Gillmor @tinagillmor Live chat stream
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 04.05.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - John Borthwick, Kevin Marks, Keith Teare, John Taschek, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 1pm Pacific.
- Steve Gillmor
We're on!
- Kevin Costain
Hi Gang
- Keith Teare
For some reason I have the feeling that we're going to hear about Facebook Home, right? Well, here's my take, it's all about engagement, the more you engage the more you click on ads, and ads are money, so Facebook Home is all about the money.
- Nir Ben Yona
I finally got my first piece of "healthware" today... so far it's pretty sweet!! http://www.withings.com/en...
- Matthew Voshell
Facebook Home isn't it like carrier cruft?
- clive boulton
I just don't see how anyone would *want* Facebook Home.
- Kevin Costain
I think the Facebook Home has quite a good potential in emerging markets.
- Nir Ben Yona
SInce Robert is in Miami, I'll say it: Facebook will be able to push notifications styled like Home "cards" to Google Glass too. Just change the presentation to horizontal and tweak to use Mirror API. Those Chat Heads could also be pushed to Google Glass, If you like that sort of thing.
- Alex de Soto
Google+ coming to you phone Home soon
- clive boulton
@Matthew nice. I recently got the Fitbit Aria scale myself. Also, I'm currently testing 4 different activity trackers. Withings is releasing one of their own soon.
- Mark Krynsky
FB Home = Microsoft Bob for Android
- Kevin Costain
That's pretty funny Kevin Costain ...
- John Taschek
Google Glass already has pop-up faces in circles, at least in the original promo film
- Kevin Marks
:) It just doesn't make sense why Facebook didn't just fork Android. That would have seemed like a more prudent move.
- Kevin Costain
theywant to run on all android phones
- Kevin Marks
even the ones google isn't on
- Kevin Marks
Indeed @Kevin, and for that, they likely will fail.
- Kevin Costain
The movie referred to is The Truman Show with Jim Carey
- Ed Schlesinger
Imagine though, every single app wants to become the launcher? The Bit.ly launcher? The Path launcher?
- Kevin Costain
harder for them to pull it off
- Kevin Marks
@Mark... i almost bought the firbit aria as well.. but it's WIRELESS B?!?!!
- Matthew Voshell
By being the top-most layer app on the home screen, Facebook fans will be more likely to use Facebook services (check-ins, messaging, photos, even email) instead of using other apps "hidden" on the device. Smart. They really want a Facebook app-centric phone.
- Alex de Soto
Now, on a more simplistic level - Facbook Home is a worse launcher itself than any of the older, more crude versions of Android. It's a regression for launcher features.
- Kevin Costain
also the data speaks for itself too
- Ed Schlesinger
@Mark.. add this to your list.. i'm waiting for mine http://www.misfitwearables.com/shine
- Matthew Voshell
http://dcurt.is/vision Zuck's vision statement
- Keith Teare
its not meant to be a good launcher, it's meant to be a good screensaver and notifications shell
- Kevin Marks
Yea, when you go to a website in mobile safari and if it has an app it shows the bar along the top... thats really useful for me
- Matthew Voshell
it's goal is to de-emphasize launching apps
- Kevin Marks
is zuckerberg just trying to open up the data intake like a beluga whale to sell on the back end?
- Matthew Voshell
@Kevin - yes, clearly it's what they're trying to be. But, as an Android user, do I want to give up features to get "Chat Heads"? I'm not so sure.
- Kevin Costain
#Chatter should be the Social Home Page for the Cloud
- Ed Schlesinger
us here aen't the target
- Kevin Marks
I just wonder, if people aren't that unsavvy, this might not be very popular. The mass install has to come from downloads - not from buying the phone (Zuck said it himself in the presentation).
- Kevin Costain
And, my feeling is that on the HTC First, the launcher won't be replaceable from FB Home. If that's the case - brutal.
- Kevin Costain
Facebook is to the social web what Goldman Sachs is to the giant sucking octopus
- clive boulton
Google glass "cards" are another example of closed notifications. They all have to go through the google servers. No apps can run locally on the device. Apps can only live in the cloud.
- Murray Macdonald
@Matthew I'm aware of that device...and many others :) http://lifestreamblog.com/lifelog...
- Mark Krynsky
Like, are we talking about Facebook home turning a "Smart" phone into a "Feature" phone?
- Kevin Costain
It's called rewire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Murray Macdonald
kind of, Kevin.
- Kevin Marks
I for one am sick of this "Mobile First" mantra. I still use my desktop much more than mobile. Call me old school....and get off my lawn.
- Mark Krynsky
.. all in the name of simplification (hello Metro tiles) - :)
- Kevin Costain
The dumbing down of OS's is just another step towards our march to Idiocracy.
- Mark Krynsky
No, get off MY lawn!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Android can't respond placing Google+ on Home w/o risking run-in w/ t/ regulators
- clive boulton
they can make it more pluggable
- Kevin Marks
@Mark - maybe we're all just getting old :)
- Kevin Costain
the next phone I buy wiil have a higher res screen than my laptop
- Kevin Marks
Google could copy Facebook Home using Google+ exclusively on a new Motorola phone as a test bed.
- Mark Krynsky
I am an assembly programmer. (embedded microcontrollers)
- Murray Macdonald
Murray - rewire works great on Windows. I'm a Cubase (Steinberg) user. But audiobus does it on the iPad - http://audiob.us/
- John Taschek
Galaxy S4 to Launch in Korea Packing a 1.8GHz Exynos Octa-core Chip, woohoo!!
- Da
Kevin EXACTLY! How is it that we can get these mobile devices to have such awesome resolutions and PPI specs and you have to pay a fortune to get an LCD monitor with that resolution?
- Mark Krynsky
Consider this: In all the years of Windows, how many applications took over the shell (easy to do) and became our "Facebook Home" on Windows?
- Kevin Costain
Jet here... low and loud
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@John...ah the memories. I used to play with Cubase Digital Audio on an Atari Falcon with 8 tracks of digital audio!
- Mark Krynsky
It seems to act more like those live wallpapers that Android used to offer, back in the early days.
- Nir Ben Yona
John: I'm a Cubase/live/metro user. I agree Rewire is brilliant.
- Murray Macdonald
I've got a 12 volt car battery as a mophie
- Kevin Marks
the 3800mAh Extended Battery for my VZW Galaxy Nexus is awesome
- Da
Mophie Steve. Mophie.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
He's used as a battery inside the Matrix - Mophieous :)
- Kevin Costain
Yeah, Lowbat! Android screen sucks battery compared to iOS why?
- clive boulton
CPU isn't the issue. Getting connections across walled-gardens is the problem...
- Murray Macdonald
it's more the computations per energy curve: http://pinterest.com/pin...
- Kevin Marks
Boy I sure feel extra ranty today. I blame no Scoble.
- Mark Krynsky
Google Glass only uploads to G+
- Murray Macdonald
running two Youtube videos on a Galaxy Note 2 is great
- Da
yup - "Getting connections across walled-gardens is the problem..."
- clive boulton
John Borthwick has a nice head of hair. Just had to be said ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i used to have
- Keith Teare
OLED displays will save battery.
- Murray Macdonald
That's a mod mop Tina! ;)
- Alex de Soto
The Nexus 4 is great, except for the speaker phone... Can't beat the $300 no-contract price.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm actually more excited about the HTC One than the S4 but I do like how Samsung is going down activity health tracking with the S4. I currently have a Nexus 4 but see myself upgrading to a new phone this year. Ah, so nice not to be tied to a contract.
- Mark Krynsky
I am tempted by the Nexus 4 to replace my craked galaxy, but I think I shoudl get a 1080p one to examine
- Kevin Marks
Alex ah, true.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If glass takes off all that content will go to G+, not FB.
- Murray Macdonald
4 hours of Ingress portal battle chews up a 10k mAh external battery pretty well
- Da
Mark - why are you so cranky ... :) I had an HTC Thunderbolt -- good phone. I'd get another HTC. It just that HTC didn't innovate as fast as others. And at the wrong time.
- John Taschek
I don't think Google is even worried about Facebook Home taking anything away from G+. Won't sway the few that use G+ more than FB.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
My ear has been "stuffy" lately. It's been driving me crazy!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
John...I think the HTC One is pretty comparable to the S4.
- Mark Krynsky
I've seen Dropbox on Facebook Home.
- Nir Ben Yona
If Glass takes hold, G+ will be the only place to get all those social shares and notifications.
- Murray Macdonald
Path is already working with Google's Mirror API for Glass.
- Alex de Soto
The mirror API doesn't allow for local applications. Everything has to be done as a restful cloud service that talks via the googleapis servers.
- Murray Macdonald
Yes Murray...all in the cloud. ¡-)
- Alex de Soto
somebody is clicking an old school bic retractable ballpoint (or so it sounds)
- Andrew Hazlett
I don't think G+ has evolved yet. If I were Google, every percentage of ad revenue makes a difference. If FB takes over some part of the monetization of search, then Google can be hurt (emotionally perhaps).
- John Taschek
It's not much of a risk actually. What's the big deal if it flops beside maybe FB's stock view of future potential.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't think even "normal" people are ready to give over *all* of their lives to Facebook
- Andrew Hazlett
Really, there can only be one launcher. What if *that* catches on on Android?
- Kevin Costain
the Facebook folks listen to GG
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Mark -- think that's why HTC is in the mix too.
- John Taschek
Alex: That rules out decent speech recognition and image processing applications. I think we'll see other real headsets that allow local apps, like the Vuzix M-100
- Murray Macdonald
Good point John
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'm very interested in how apps are developed on FB and deployed on Home. I don't think that was analyzed well.
- John Taschek
@John - maybe apps aren't allowed? Just merely exposed through their own launching mechanism?
- Kevin Costain
Official FB home promo video resonates http://youtu.be/W3d5VbOLck0
- clive boulton
I wrote about this, with links: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2013...
- Kevin Marks
Facebook Home highlights Apple closed ecosystem - people can either get trapped in Apple or be free with Android
- Da
it will allow efficient web apps that flow like native.
- Murray Macdonald
The old specs were ambiguous.
- Murray Macdonald
I love that I can chose many, many different browsers for my Nexus
- Da
Forking and spooning ... very different
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Fork You. Don't even start talking about pull requests.
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin getting TESTYYYYY
- Matthew Voshell
Where is Scoble to set everyone straight!!!??!!
- Kevin Costain
one of the best vanity plates have ever seen, on an Audi Quattro - "IV Q II" - quite an accomplishment to get it past the DMV (SecOfState here in IL) censors!
- Jerome Hughes
I disagree. HTML5 has resolved that. PhoneGap developers hit cross-platform HTML5 everyday.
- Murray Macdonald
They care about standards? HA! They want to MAKE the standards!
- Kevin Costain
They're open-source. Port the source. Chrome extensions are just web-page extensions. You just need an environment that supports the standards and required events.
- Murray Macdonald
HTML5 is just beginning to be standardized
- John Taschek
Fact is though, browsers still render the same page differently. That (after how long the web has been around) is pure BULLSHIT.
- Kevin Costain
HTML5 has a standards process that is working
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is right -- every browser renders differently
- John Taschek
oh, I thought he mean a mac mini
- Kevin Marks
I am very glad that HTML5 will be a stronger standard, but it is moving slowly
- John Taschek
3 Brits
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yea.. every brosers does render diferntly :/
- Matthew Voshell
it isn't any more becasue the browsers ae now moving quickly to deploy changes
- Kevin Marks
You guys are ending this too early :(
- Kevin Costain
Open Mikes!
- Alex de Soto
been a good show, me thinks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Browsers are all standardized -- as long as you use Chrome (that's why I use it!)
- John Taschek
Another good show. Have a great weekend everyone.
- Mark Krynsky
taschek, I should show you some html presentation stuff
- Kevin Marks
Thank you everyone!
- Kevin Costain
You're dreaming Steve. The major players are going to fight to keep their notifications isolated. Apple and Google will be holdouts.
- Murray Macdonald
Good show. Thanks.
- Alex de Soto
5 stars
- Jerome Hughes
Show shows Moore's Law is mobile
- clive boulton
"Sir, I need you to put that away - ok" http://youtu.be/W3d5VbOLck0
- clive boulton
Really good show, if I do say so myself. Thanks everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I hate it when I have to actually work on Fridays and miss the show ...
- Laura Norvig
Gillmor Gang: Spring Training - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Doc Searls, Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, and Steve Gillmor — takes turns sizing up the new season. With Steve Ballmer running out of room and close to the warning track, we talk about who might be called up from the minors. Dave Winer is back with a nifty pivot on Google Reader's trip to the showers. More than anything, Winer made the hard stuff look easy and gave the tech generation a voice.
- Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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hi all
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Waiting for the famous call. Just talked with Dave Winer, so who knows WHAT will happen on today's show?
- Robert Scoble
oooooh
- Tina Chase Gillmor
about to start getting everyone on.... places please ;1)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Howdy!
- Nir Ben Yona
When do you remove the rock from the cave entrance? :)
- J.C. Bouvier
We could argue about how Flipboard is cooler than the open web. Or how the open web is cooler than Flipboard.
- Robert Scoble
J.C. it takes a while for the cave to warm up. So, hang out a few minutes. Usually by 1:10 we are going.
- Robert Scoble
Will do guys...don't fill up on Peeps(tm).
- J.C. Bouvier
Other potential things to talk about? Blackberry's one million sales.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook's "Android phone." (It's bullshit, Facebook folks tell me).
- Robert Scoble
WhatsApp is hot. What else is?
- clive boulton
If you have to wait in line to use an app, it's hot. Samples: Mailbox and Tempo.
- Robert Scoble
slight delay but we're all good....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
craving the gillmor gang jingle
- clive boulton
Toom, toom toom. Toom, toom toom...
- Alex de Soto
cliveb here is it in text:
- Amyloo
DUM DUM S
- Amyloo
What about TMobile's pricing strategy? Apple and Samsung must have signed off no?
- J.C. Bouvier
DUM DUM DUM
- Amyloo
Sorry, failed experiment. It meant more with spaces. Wonder if you can do an in here.
- Amyloo
Still waiting for the call. TMobile's pricing strategy is sort of interesting, but TMobile doesn't even work in my house, so it isn't useful to me.
- Robert Scoble
:) Hi Amy, everyone.
- Hilary Talbot
Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! There's my text art.
- Amyloo
Pretty good Amyloo.
- clive boulton
Google Glass Explorer's list isn't closed yet. A friend just got a message she'll be getting one.
- Nir Ben Yona
hehe, thanks
- Hilary Talbot
Awesome. Sounds like they are making 8,000 of Google Glass Explorer kits. I'm #107 on that list and still haven't gotten mine.
- Robert Scoble
Foxconn can make helluva lot more Glass
- clive boulton
Robert: Can't wait to see your Glass feed :)
- Nir Ben Yona
I just received my invitation today. Hope to pick it up in NYC.
- Alex de Soto
When do you start?
- David C. Menzel
David: they are having technical problems. I still haven't gotten called.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Thank you!
- David C. Menzel
we are all good in the studio but helping a participant who is having a problem
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hang on guys almost there
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Glass needs cooling for Robert's streams.
- clive boulton
@Robert I finally got through the reservation line and have been using Tempo this week... I don't think any calendaring app will fulfill all my needs... buts its close... untill google NOW gets released for iOS... But the linkage b/t my mail, linkedin and FB is very helpful...
- Matthew Voshell
Heheh. I'm already working at thinking how I'm gonna extend Glass' battery.
- Robert Scoble
Hil, you'll be proud of me. I bought a tray of frozen monkey bread but I'm only baking two of the 12 rolls. (Hil is my calorie counting buddy on MyFitness Pal).
- Amyloo
someone (who shall remain nameless) decided to switch equipment right before the show ;-( always a problem
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Speaking of which, i'm looking forward to Danny Sullivan's comparison trial of all of the wearable fitness gadgets.
- Amyloo
Very proud of you! but what is monkey bread?
- Hilary Talbot
To add to the discussion list, here's a new kickstarter project that cleared $30k in 8 hours and has extended thier goal to $100k, Looks like a brilliant project and i can't wait to get them.. http://www.kickstarter.com/project...
- Matthew Voshell
Gooey sweet rolls. Great warm, but I woudl eat the whole lot if available.
- Amyloo
Earbuds w/ Magnetic Docking. Made in USA. - nice Kickstarter
- clive boulton
Amyloo: The Basis is best, but it looks dorky. I bought two.
- Robert Scoble
re extending battery life for glass. There will have to be head mophi packs modelled into hats...
- Hilary Talbot
Hmm.. I made hot cross buns yesterday... so good
- Hilary Talbot
Robert, I don't know about you but I'm more influenced than perhaps I should be by the appearance of apps. Dorky will turn me off to things.
- Amyloo
Tina: when troubleshooting these type of problems, always ask to take the plug off.
- Nir Ben Yona
Hilary: I'm thinking of a utililty belt with a cord that runs up my back.
- Robert Scoble
Amyloo: the Basis is a watch. Looks like my dad's Casio calculator watch.
- Robert Scoble
another few minutes guys. thank you for your patience
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Does Sullivan participate in the chat? i dont think so.. I wonder if he can get early access to this wearable tech, i bring it up every week with no love; Did i mention JOHN SCULLY is involved! http://www.indiegogo.com/project...
- Matthew Voshell
Thanks. Personally I'd just kick that guy off the show Tina. Oh, wait, is it Steve? Heheheh.
- Robert Scoble
remember this is a recording session ;-) sh*t happens
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Solar powered Glass - Scoblevest
- clive boulton
Robert: I dunno, I think you should set a more modish out-there trend ;)
- Hilary Talbot
Don't they have hoodies and other clothing that have channels sewn into the seams for cords?
- Amyloo
PLEASE switch the show to a google on-air hangout... that way when robert get's his glass we can just see what he sees.. ha
- Matthew Voshell
That Misfit Shine looks awesome.
- Robert Scoble
Why do I feel like I've missed the show.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Yes, Scott vests do that
- Hilary Talbot
Matthew: that would be cool! If anything we can do a multiple-screen thing.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: the show hasn't started yet.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert... YES... i backed in way back in November... but they had to do a complete redesign and release got pushed back to June... But i think it's got the chance to destroy all the other wearble tech out now..
- Matthew Voshell
Amyloo: ScottEVests have cord channels built in. I have several of their vests and they are quite nice.
- Robert Scoble
Matthew: yup. Have you gotten yours yet?
- Robert Scoble
No, like i said.. they pushed the ship date back from March 1 to i think June... They decided the lights on the outside were too small and redesigned them to be bigger...I think they are made in vietnam
- Matthew Voshell
just got Doc on board... Scoblenext
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HI, I'm home now
- Kevin Marks
One of these days I will make a prototype of my combination earbud/earrings. (yeah right)
- Amyloo
Kevin look for us on Newsgagn 4
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh yay... @kevin will have his usual birds chirping?
- Matthew Voshell
I keep trashing earbuds
- Kevin Marks
I'm on the headset mic so less atmos
- Kevin Marks
I could go get the other one, but then i'd need to find earbuds
- Kevin Marks
we're good to go!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They were a nice idea, Amy
- Hilary Talbot
Just a minute later.
- Robert Scoble
Playing last weeks GG to hear the jingle
- clive boulton
Almost ready, please stay tuned...
- Robert Scoble
Shout out to Danny I'm watching the show on my Roku 3
- Matthew Voshell
who hoo
- Kevin Costain
expect the unexpected quit
- Kevin Marks
It worked, Steve's live
- clive boulton
The only programs that ever crash on my mac are microsoft ones..
- Matthew Voshell
Quit unexpectedly, due to unknown error.
- Kevin Costain
Robert: I hope that you can tell us more about the new Facebook Android phone/platform.
- David C. Menzel
Flipboard 2.0 = RSS Web 2.0/Pintrest
- Matthew Voshell
I cannot use Microsoft ones any more, too much Windows shoved in my way (same as Gmail compose)
- clive boulton
I'm watching today on a laptop running Ubuntu using Google Chrome. Microsoft software not involved.
- Kevin Costain
Makes sense as a metric, like pages per site. It does measure interest.
- Amyloo
Zmags also reports time in a publication, useful in tandem with flips.
- Amyloo
Flipboard does do this thing where if i flip through enough... it'll say "loading" and neer load older content... idk.. does anyone else have this issue?
- Matthew Voshell
Amazon phone soon?
- clive boulton
who cares about the phone part?
- Kevin Marks
But wouldnt that mean they give up on google+ ?? Equates to signing into AIM with your FB account
- Matthew Voshell
Amazon tends to drive down costs
- clive boulton
oye... tutorial show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The world needs more android phones, like it needs more versions of android.
- Kevin Costain
Robert has better hair; that's all FB cares about
- Matthew Voshell
Facebook lists? Looks like you have not added me to a list yet robert :)
- Christian Burns
New pinterest ipad app is amazing at creating rabbit trails.
- Christian Burns
You don't look happy about it Robert...
- J.C. Bouvier
Android 4.2.2 is great
- Christian Burns
Im on the Galaxy Nexus.
- Christian Burns
galaxy nexus is what I have now
- Kevin Marks
Steve loves the discussion of Android, they all prove he is right :)
- Christian Burns
Love the Split Screen. Kevin in the 90's, Robert in the future
- Moe Glitz
Hay fever
- Kevin Marks
I love that my 2 yr old Galaxy Nexus is snappy and getting better
- Christian Burns
tweetie birds in the background
- Kevin Costain
why am I in the 90s? Does this look like portland?
- Kevin Marks
Doc was on Econ Talk podcast, it was great to hear him there .
- Christian Burns
The quality of your stream
- Moe Glitz
Marissa leans in: http://leanin.org/stories...
- Kevin Marks
Future buzzword: Personal Clouds, or prouds
- Kevin Costain
personal clouds, knowing it wont go out of business
- Christian Burns
@kevin... is there anything to the stories that Marissa os often hours late to meetings and makes people work around her? I know Tim Armstrong disagrees about the "work from home" issue too
- Matthew Voshell
Machine learning focus seem to be the new hot with VCs
- clive boulton
Marissa used to have 'office hours' at google which was blocks of unscheduled time that you could drop in on her. This turned into PM's camped outside her office to try and get a few minutes with her for a decision.
- Kevin Marks
The Little Outliner - http://littleoutliner.com/
- Kevin Costain
I still love outliners!
- Christian Burns
Why is outlining good? Can someone explain?
- Kevin Costain
Idea Processing
- Christian Burns
Kantara initiative goes hand in glove with VRM?
- clive boulton
All of life is a hierarchy of things,
- Christian Burns
Interesting, the rumor is back again: "Music Executive: 'iRadio is Coming', Apple Pushing for Summer Launch" http://www.theverge.com/2013...
- David C. Menzel
and connect nodes of one outline to another
- Christian Burns
I like Mind Meister much better and it has Google Drive integration... http://www.mindmeister.com/
- Matthew Voshell
Media Payloads
- Christian Burns
Mind Mapping. Is that also considered outlining?
- Kevin Costain
A form of outlineing
- Christian Burns
RSS, freedom of association, this show is freedom to connect, to boadcast
- Christian Burns
I suppose a free/cheap alternative to apps like http://www.omnigroup.com/product... would be really helpful - I'm assuming a Little Outliner outline can be exported in various formats.
- Andrew Hazlett
Or if you like to go the flowchart way to figure out your flows/outlines Lucidchart is also SaaS with Google Drive reference.. https://www.lucidchart.com/
- Matthew Voshell
I used to use omnigroup apps but have switched to Lucidchart since its SaaS and much cheaper.. it does wireframing too
- Matthew Voshell
little outliner works less well on mobile, as there are no tab and arrow keys...
- Kevin Marks
Could this just be a second mode of text entry in notepad? Like switching to showing line numbers.
- Kevin Costain
Responsive Design is a MUST_HAVE anymore right?
- Matthew Voshell
Kevin has dreamy-like birds tweeting away in his yard
- Tina Chase Gillmor
An open standard, cross platform outliner, stores localy, is the dream
- Christian Burns
@Tina the real-life Twitter :)
- Kevin Costain
hi everyone, Happy Good Friday :)
- Charlie Isaacs
@Matthew: just read this one, check it out http://bit.ly/PDCANM
- Nir Ben Yona
@Matthew -- Mind Meister can save and edit to Google Drive?
- clive boulton
We do outlines all over the place I think.. but we don't force them into rigid structures.
- Kevin Costain
Has anyone used carbon fin? http://carbonfin.com/
- Charlie Isaacs
@cliveb Yea, Mind Meister allows you to invite people and simultanious edit (like drive) and once you're done... you can export it to Drive as PDF or whatever
- Matthew Voshell
I can't get links to work in littleoutiner
- Kevin Marks
Steves global vision is too abstract to be contained in an outline. Beatles songs dont fit into an outline either
- Christian Burns
I use CarbonFin on the iPda all day
- Christian Burns
If the internet fails big time one of these days, we'll all thank little outliner and tools like it. Outlining is also a good alternative to clunky CMS editors for setting up content to be used in adaptive or responsive design.
- Alex de Soto
I still have customers running Windows NT 4.0 :)
- Kevin Costain
@Nir.. i completly understand its importance.. i was looking for agreence haha; I just switched my website from smugmug to squarespace becuase they had much better responsive design and social network tie in http://www.wooliffotog.com
- Matthew Voshell
Things like waze will rot your brain :)
- Christian Burns
I still haven't upgraded my iPhone4 to the "new" iOS
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks I still do all my mind maps on paper (photograph and save in Drive)
- clive boulton
I love waze, can't live without it. Travel everywhere around the world with it
- Charlie Isaacs
{BEGIN SCOBLE RANT}
- Kevin Costain
Verizon updates my Galaxy Nexus to the new android for me
- Christian Burns
@Tina.. save yourself and stay there
- Matthew Voshell
He's gonna blow people
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google is a notification hog, I wish I could turn off google+ notifications
- Christian Burns
Revenge of the Notifications
- clive boulton
I thought Google only employed Smart Engineers?
- Moe Glitz
@Christian.. That's an easy task on iOS :)
- Matthew Voshell
you can christian. press and old on one, and you get to the stfu app button
- Kevin Marks
Google is trying to get you to go to the app, smart
- Christian Burns
They better improve notifications for Glass or else Robert will really blow!
- Alex de Soto
google engineers don't get many notifications. Except from source code control
- Kevin Marks
Kevin Marks! Thanks You. Just turned off G+ notifications
- Christian Burns
Google maps is great,
- Christian Burns
Doc is living in NYC?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Waze is not great in Washington
- Christian Burns
I like that google maps will turn your map to night mode,
- Christian Burns
Did anyone else notice that if an app redirects you to google maps in the mobile safari there is a button at the top to allow you to auto-open the local google maps app... pretty smart
- Matthew Voshell
Christian if you are talking about DC, I agree, especially around the Pentagon and DCA -- #ConspiracyTheory?
- Charlie Isaacs
I find Google maps transit is best from Mahattan to the other boro's
- clive boulton
Wa State
- Christian Burns
My waze doesn't work at all in any tunnel, I don't know what Scoble is talking about :)
- Charlie Isaacs
I'm in DC too... and i think thats not accurate for a specific reason
- Matthew Voshell
I always lose my waze or any navigation system going through the big dig and any other Boston tunnel, then I get lost for about 30 minutes trying to regain reception :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
Kisckstarter routes around SEC
- Christian Burns
oh boy here come the organ jokes
- Charlie Isaacs
Angels bootstrapping is killing VC's in the way the music labels lost control of the distribution channel once artists starting selling direct (ergo louis CK)
- Matthew Voshell
Seeing lots of old people with Galaxy Note
- Christian Burns
Big Print phone
- Kevin Marks
why do I need my watch to tell me that I'm going to die soon
- Charlie Isaacs
My mom loves it
- Christian Burns
I want one of those. Why doesn't anyone send me stuff?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what I want is headphones for cycling, that let ambient sound in but block wind noise
- Kevin Marks
I want stuff!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Does it check your stress levels when u open Android Notifications
- Moe Glitz
what do you want Tina? I can send you something? I have an old Palm Pilot
- Charlie Isaacs
Indiegogo is gathering steam too with kickstarter being snooty
- Matthew Voshell
I have an original sidekick
- Kevin Marks
did i mention I was clearing out the garage?
- Kevin Marks
I have one of those hard drive ipods
- Kevin Costain
Also I have about 500 CD-ROMs
- Kevin Marks
the watch you wear while you are swimming only works for one swim
- Charlie Isaacs
@Kevin Marks Craigslist listing???
- Matthew Voshell
I think I left my Newton at Apple
- Kevin Marks
The latest Y Combinator demo day had like dozens of Kickstarter clones.
- Nir Ben Yona
Robert, I love my Basis watch. It's ugly, but works well
- Francine Hardaway
I have 100's of 80's Video's
- Moe Glitz
I have a $12 casio
- Christian Burns
Noticed VC's putting growth hackers on the ground (Ivory towers going)
- clive boulton
oh god, VHS tapes too. We need to work out which ones have actual family videos on
- Kevin Marks
did anyone see the kickstarter project that allows you to avoid ads in a "free" app by collecting the money up front? have you guys already talked about this? maybe the future of advertising...
- Charlie Isaacs
Just got to a desktop and looked at Facebook. I have over 13,000 followers. Clearly I am on a Scoble list.
- Francine Hardaway
I think I might have a 40 megabyte hard drive around... fourty. megabytes.
- Kevin Costain
If soething is popular you can always get it onto a plane
- Christian Burns
I never even looked before
- Francine Hardaway
VHS, DVD, Blu-ray & now 4K.
- Moe Glitz
Amazon Instant Video lets you download movies/tv shows for offline viewing... smart
- Matthew Voshell
Kickstarter rejects many projects
- Francine Hardaway
Indegogo does not reject
- Christian Burns
You got started late, and it's not MY fault. Don't shortchange me, Steve; I live for Gillmor Gang
- Francine Hardaway
Yes!
- Christian Burns
Tina, let the other guests take over.
- Christian Burns
Can the Shareholders please kick him out
- Moe Glitz
Lots of Nexus 7 around too
- Christian Burns
Is Windows Blue the fix for Windows 8 start button etc?
- clive boulton
Everybody covets my mini
- Francine Hardaway
Referb Nexus 7 selling $169 locally now.
- Kevin Costain
hm, I have until May 7 to port my twitter adnroid app to v1.1 API
- Kevin Marks
New nexus 7 for 199
- Christian Burns
Ballmer watched the Digital World go by
- Moe Glitz
@Clive - no way.
- Kevin Costain
I don't even have a keyboard
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft should headhunt Eric Schmidt to take over. That would be fun.
- Kevin Marks
Right Kevin. Eric is super smart
- Moe Glitz
Ballmer grew up where I did. Suburban Detroit
- Tina Chase Gillmor
are Balsillie And Lazaridis free?
- Kevin Costain
Steve Cook ain't CEO material or a Product Guy
- Moe Glitz
That would be interesting
- Christian Burns
Insider are watching Satya Nadella. He's led the change to Microsoft engaging and extending core with open source.
- clive boulton
What's a bigger job. Saving the world or saving Microsoft
- Moe Glitz
Saving the world is not rocket science
- Christian Burns
Well played Kevin
- Christian Burns
I know a CEO that's able to do both... saving the world and running a large software company Marc Benioff
- Charlie Isaacs
Marissa Mayer?
- Nir Ben Yona
Jack Dorsey?
- Moe Glitz
scoble is spot on
- Christian Burns
Marc Benioff? It's about who could do it. Not who would do it. Don't think anybody would want to do it.
- Alex de Soto
Reed Hastings if they pick from outside
- clive boulton
Eventually Microsoft will only be relevant in the Enterprise
- Moe Glitz
Resume: Screwed at (companyA), F*cked at ( companyB) Taken advange of at (company C)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I agree... do they become IBM??
- Matthew Voshell
Yes Matthew
- Moe Glitz
They are lucky that Apple & Google don't do Enterprise
- Moe Glitz
MS has a nice warchest right?
- Christian Burns
Think both Microsoft & Apple should open up their Warchest's
- Moe Glitz
you guys are coming in loud and clear from my house
- Charlie Isaacs
Gray the studio cat is trying to pick his way back inot the studio.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Intifragility?
- Christian Burns
Google is trying to do enterprise... they got into the GSA and the white house
- Matthew Voshell
Google Docs sucks. Maybe if they acquired Salesforce.com
- Moe Glitz
Marissa assuming Yahoo growth. Otherwise the board on-boards Reed Hastings.
- clive boulton
The Internet of Things
- Moe Glitz
new trend: http://instagram.com/p...
- Kevin Marks
Looking forward to who connects up with Daves outliner
- Christian Burns
name the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
word sucks, docs is handy
- Kevin Marks
@Moe, i disagree, for collaboration its amazing....There are large organizations wasting money on Microsoft word versioning that waste thousands of hours but i do use salesforce products (do.com)
- Matthew Voshell
What is word?
- Christian Burns
I have to use Word for our book. Sucks
- Robert Scoble
He will be like new
- Francine Hardaway
More Doc
- Christian Burns
Amazon makes you use Word
- Francine Hardaway
I will say google Docs is lacking in formatting... i usually export to pages for that part...
- Matthew Voshell
I love Word, but I rarely need Word. It's now for pro docs only.
- Kevin Bryan
@Robert why do you HAVE to use word?
- Matthew Voshell
@Robert they don't make you use Wordstar?
- Charlie Isaacs
publishers have built workflow around Word, sadly
- Kevin Marks
You can always create the book and proof and all in google docs and then just download AS a .doc :)
- Matthew Voshell
Yeah, but Word works better than Docs for revisions and other things, templates, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Word works at ignoring revisions
- Kevin Marks
Docs works at having one true version
- Kevin Marks
Gillmor Gang Live 03.29.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Doc Searls, Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 1pm Pacific.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang: It's Alright, Bob - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Robert Scoble, Danny Sullivan, Kevin Marks, and Steve Gillmor — convened with Gillmor in Boston and the Gang in California. We took another cut at the Google Reader damage, with @dannysullivan hating on notifications and @scobleizer hating on Android's notifications. Did I say I told him so? Yes I did. But the mere fact we spent so much time on the stream's destruction of Windows and RSS proved the point all along (for me since 2009). Namely, that the new platform is the stream, and the resulting multiplexed meritocracy of the combined social and messaging networks is where the developers will go. As Dylan said, "even the president must stand naked."
- Steve Gillmor
What??? I thought you were going to title this one "Slide over and jack in".
- Laura Norvig
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim... http://friendfeed.com/realtim...
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Hanging out, waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
I have Android angst. Will I blow up on today's call?
- Robert Scoble
@Robert is switching to android like dating a stripper? She looks great but once you find out she sleeps all day and can't stop flirting with guys you realize hose bad of a decision it was? NOT a personal story at all :/
- Matthew Voshell
Heheh. Matthew, it's not quite THAT bad. But the notifications suck. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Android angst? Can't wait to hear what that's all about. And isn't it amazing that while Google Reader will be gone soon Friendfeed is still around?
- Alex de Soto
have you tried google keep?
- Matthew Voshell
Yeah. That'll be more interesting with Google Glass, but then I'm still partial to Evernote. I don't trust Google as much as I used to.
- Robert Scoble
We could also talk about algorithmic user interfaces (like what Facebook is moving to). That bugged me a lot at first but now I'm very intrigued.
- Robert Scoble
Tina, you there?
- Robert Scoble
I completely agree Evernote is amazing... when did google try to play catch up and not just be the innovators they are? are they getting TOO big?
- Matthew Voshell
Hmmm, Gillmors can't be reached. Steve is in New York. Tina must be having troubles.
- Robert Scoble
how can you dislike android notifications? dislike some apps for doing them badly, sure (twitter)
- Kevin Marks
I just got back through and Tina is having trouble with one of the machines. Please stand by.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: all apps suck on 4.2.1 all notifications are single lines and totally useless. Forces a click through which iOS doesn't.
- Robert Scoble
@robert are there not third-party mods to change the notifications?
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew: I don't know. On iOS I don't need to do third-party crap.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert yea true.. so you're saying apple got something right?!?!
- Matthew Voshell
Yup. But Apple sucks because of the keyboard. Android, er, SwiftKey, is far superior for me.
- Robert Scoble
Danny Sullivan: please stand by. Tina is experiencing technical difficulties.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert What about google voice dictation? I use the google search app on my iPhone 100% of the time.. and i know it's builtin to the keyboard as well?
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew: voice is a wash. Google is better at some things, Apple better at others.
- Robert Scoble
have you done the pull to expand thign on notifications
- Kevin Marks
2-finger pull down on any one give you the same UX as the top one
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yes. That just expands groups, like Gmail, into multiple messages. All single lines.
- Robert Scoble
@panel... I've been saying this forever... why dont you guys do this on a broadcasted google+ hangout?
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew: we should. If I ran this I would do that.
- Robert Scoble
.... and save tina that aggravation :)
- Matthew Voshell
Been waiting here since 1 PM!
- Francine Hardaway
Thanks, we are running!
- Robert Scoble
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
Are you hearing OK?
- Robert Scoble
yes
- Francine Hardaway
What are you doing indoors, Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
I just got my Basis!
- Francine Hardaway
Nice Francine! I've been wanting to test that.
- Mark Krynsky
I tried the street outside, but that was even noisier
- Kevin Marks
also there was a lady wearing google glass having a phonecall
- Kevin Marks
Mark, I can't even open the box it's packaged so tightly
- Francine Hardaway
@kevin... was it as awkward as not realizing someone has a bluetooth headset on?
- Matthew Voshell
I'm back on.
- Robert Scoble
well, we were debating who each latte was for, so a bit odd
- Kevin Marks
10 seconds for try #2.
- Robert Scoble
I have a headset on too now though
- Kevin Marks
That Basis is almost as good as a lie detector: heart rate, perspiration, skin temp...
- Alex de Soto
@Kevin LOL
- Matthew Voshell
Nexus or always behind
- clive boulton
geez... thanks for hanging in there folks...all good now?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Robert... so why didnt you get the nexus 4?
- Matthew Voshell
stev face the camera
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I need to give Scoble my tweet notification app.
- Kevin Marks
Robert, you should ask Danny about his multi-device activity tracking. We're both doing this right now. I'm testing 4 activity trackers simultaneously right now Nike Fuelband, Jawbone Up, Fitbit One and Bodymedia Armband http://lifestreamblog.com/bodymed...
- Mark Krynsky
Danny is knackered after SMX?
- Kevin Marks
talk about Google Keep. Does anybody care about that AT ALL? and the timing after killing Reader? Not good.
- Laura Norvig
Laura... you talk about it and see if the gang picks it up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I just did ;-)
- Laura Norvig
Keep makes me wonder whether Tasks will evaporate suddenly.
- Tinfoil 2.0
And will News ever go away on Google?
- Alex de Soto
Doh...stream locked up.
- Mark Krynsky
Spotted Chomebook Pixel's this week, one in the wild.
- clive boulton
...and it's back
- Mark Krynsky
Orkut
- Steven E. Streight
no InstaGram is a no-go for kids fo-sho
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yep Tina...my daughter uses instagram now more than facebook.
- Mark Krynsky
Photo apps are taking over social media!
- Steven E. Streight
instagram on Android tabets is nicer than on iPads
- Kevin Marks
Facebook fatigue is really setting in
- clive boulton
@Laura Robert and I spoke about it earlier in this stream
- Matthew Voshell
We were promised vacations on Mars...and all we got are these stupid cat photos!
- Steven E. Streight
turn your ipad inot a netbook!
- Kevin Marks
Ah, thanks Matthew, I was at lunch!
- Laura Norvig
I pre-ordered this months ago and ti got puched back, but i think it's WAY better than the other activity trackers out there http://www.misfitwearables.com/
- Matthew Voshell
Mark - same. very little FB all Instagram
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm using the Logitech keyboard for the mini. They ship quickly from Logitech. It's great but can't use a protective case for the back with it.
- Alex de Soto
But how does instagram pay off for young kids when they go to get a job in 10 years?!?! haha
- Matthew Voshell
It's a generational thing....
- Mark Krynsky
Gen X is still pretty privacy wary...the new generation isn't...this will affect adopted technologies.
- Mark Krynsky
A generational tic...like saying "So..." at the start of every sentence.
- Steven E. Streight
ditto my 16 and 18 yr old neices - Instagram, not Facebook anymore
- Laura Norvig
Path too.
- clive boulton
mine use fb messenger a fair bit
- Kevin Marks
They'll care about privacy when hit by identity theft or predators.
- Steven E. Streight
So its where you friends are? growing up is all about fitting in...
- Matthew Voshell
my eldest was live-tweeting a school conference this week...
- Kevin Marks
Fitting in...or being different...like a Steve Jobs.
- Steven E. Streight
My students, year 3 and 4, don't know shit. I have taught them body monitors, sensors, 3-D printing
- Francine Hardaway
it never stops scoble :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Most of them have iPhones
- Francine Hardaway
kids just want to communicate with their friends
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yea i think for events, organizations, these social networks are amazing... but for personal life? just building a case to not get a job or be trusted :/
- Matthew Voshell
Silence and Solitude will be the New Black.
- Steven E. Streight
Hello GG friends.
- Darren
Robert: Will kids run away from the contextual or embrace it?
- Alex de Soto
Alex: for a couple of years. Why? Price.
- Robert Scoble
But after the glasses get cool enough and cheap enough, we'll see kids use them too. Particularly for sports or concert videos.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert so it goes the way flat screen TV's have? Please tell me we dont become the people from Wall-E :(
- Matthew Voshell
My students (journalism) use Twitter, hate Facebook but still use it. Are amazingly tech illiterate and uncurious. Remember, outside SV, there's a whole other world
- Francine Hardaway
Facebook made the social graph too much the past you were
- clive boulton
Glad to see we aren't talking about SendGrid today.
- Darren
When Google Glass tells us what to do, and Google Cars drive us contextually to where they know we should be, will thinking be obsolete?
- Steven E. Streight
Kevin is at The Creamery in Sf. Oneof the loudest places in SF
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If its cool... does that mean is useful? i dont think they are mutually exclusive.
- Matthew Voshell
but quieter than the street outside
- Kevin Marks
SendGrid are a disgrace
- Kevin Marks
Twitter is for very short messages, not real conversations. What does that say about us?
- Steven E. Streight
The kids of the people on this call are NOT normal
- Francine Hardaway
I plan on limiting my kids tech usage growing up; kids nowadays get punish by having to go outside and turn off their xbox's; when i grew up and we were in trouble we WEREN'T aloud outside... :/ This pushes towards childhood obesity... is tech to partly blame?
- Matthew Voshell
Twitter conditions us for short bursts of talk, rather than what we had in blogs, longer communications in depth.
- Steven E. Streight
Patrick is not the norm
- Francine Hardaway
Matthew: yes. Technology plays a big part in obesity.
- Robert Scoble
Francine - not normal - true. but their friends are and it's the same
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I would agree that I've gained weight due to more time on the PC and eating late at night.
- Steven E. Streight
Maybe part of a bigger conversation regarding trust in cloud services is the bigger issue.
- Mark Krynsky
Hi everyone, just checking in because I miss you all. Am I late? I have been traveling a lot lately :)
- Charlie Isaacs
I have been experimenting with new curation and discovery tools like RebelMouse and Swayy to find stuff to read. I wonder if this type of discovery is going to replace systematic RSS reading of blogs.
- Laura Norvig
Will smart phones and tablets totally replace tower PCs? I doubt it.
- Steven E. Streight
Hiiiii Charlie
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hiiiiback Tina! :)
- Charlie Isaacs
RSS seems to be in trouble.
- Steven E. Streight
Does Google want to replace RSS with GooglePlus, Robert?
- Steven E. Streight
rss is just fine - it's used as the backbone for more things than ever
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
*sigh*
- Darren
Twitter not supporting RSS, XML or Atom anymore
- Laura Norvig
I think Flipboard and Social Networks.. RSS will live but be like cash vs. credit cards today... it'll be the undreground
- Matthew Voshell
No Tina, your kids all llive in SV. Tech is in the air
- Francine Hardaway
I think RSS readers may go the way of blog rolls.
- Steven E. Streight
twitter stopped supporting rss and atom because they, at the time, lacked capabilities to handle it
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Syndication is a necessity...regardless of what the technology ever iterates to. I still use RSS and will welcome whatever new technology comes to evolve it.
- Mark Krynsky
Google Reader with RSS was incredible ROI for Google. Not a lot of money for a lot of geek love.
- Kevin Bryan
RSS serves a very relevant B2B purpose (syndication) and there are no relevant alternatives. Until there is it isn't going anywhere. Proprietary APIs are not that.
- Darren
When does "content curation" turn into plagiarism and duplicate content?
- Steven E. Streight
Does google just have the balls to say No? Jobs was renowned for the ability say no.
- Matthew Voshell
promoting TWIT on GG??!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
you use email and you don't know its SMTP ?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Very sad about Reader because it makes a lot of very vocal people not trust Google.
- Francine Hardaway
:-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steven, I'm surprised that is not contested in courts more. All the tools I have seen do link back to original source
- Laura Norvig
Apple updates Podcasts app with new features and design changes Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...
- Charlie Isaacs
Google Reader was the Velvet Underground of Google services. Not many people used it, but everyone who did started a blog.
- Kevin Bryan
Tina: I need to keep up on the other shows that I'mnot on. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Google doesn't say n directly, just has passive agressive arguments about traffic
- Kevin Marks
Laura, Twitter si barely supporting Twitter any more
- Kevin Marks
rss and other "notification" tech is important as infrastructure if only to keep things from not being silo'd
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Scob - yeah you have the time to do that!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@kevin so they are more motiviated by money and not as much be delievering a product people love? The supposed opposite of apple?
- Matthew Voshell
Francine - when are you coming to SV again?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Was there this week. Mid April
- Francine Hardaway
I come once a month
- Francine Hardaway
not money per se, more that when they have an instinctual dislike they'll find a data-driven justification
- Kevin Marks
Could they have merged Reader into "Google News?'
- Alex de Soto
Danny - right. couldnt they have utilized it somehow?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google offerings last 1459 days http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...
- clive boulton
Google Plus is not solving any of my information overload problems at all.
- Laura Norvig
Explore on GooglePlus has been demoted in the More tab.
- Steven E. Streight
I know a Government agency that leveraged Google Reader to dynamically parse feeds/information specifically related that Govt. agency. A young innovator built the app to save taxpayers money...oh well.
- Charlie Isaacs
I gain a lot more followers on G+ than on FB, but get more interactions on FB.
- Steven E. Streight
Robert's right. Discovery on G+ is very difficult
- Francine Hardaway
Yes
- Steven E. Streight
the call-out about Google Alerts failing was interesting too
- Kevin Marks
Like I said, the Explore tab on G+ is hidden in More.
- Steven E. Streight
I use google alerts a LOT... please dont say that is next :/
- Matthew Voshell
Why doesn't G+ have a private message feature like all other social media does???
- Steven E. Streight
I have been getting incredible value out of a "secret group" nptech community of practice on Facebook lately. The trust in the group (of about 400) ripples out into public facing parts of Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn.
- Laura Norvig
Limited on G+ gives private message
- clive boulton
@Steven... tech it does? if you share a link with a specific person, they are the only ones that see it
- Matthew Voshell
facebook will always be a non-starter just because all of the tech people I interact with are not on it :/
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
it has gtalk integrated, steven
- Kevin Marks
or you can just put one person in the circle field
- Kevin Marks
@Francine But when you come you dont call ;-(
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Does G+ support private hangout?
- clive boulton
Thanks Matthew, but that's a bit clunky of a workaround for private messaging isn't it?
- Steven E. Streight
yes, you can invite a circle to a hangout
- Kevin Marks
so make a small circle
- Kevin Marks
LinkedIn is iterating fast. I am starting to read a few things there.
- Laura Norvig
Ah. cool. small circle hangout
- clive boulton
It is hard to survive in business without being on LinkedIn
- Charlie Isaacs
Mike: really? Nearly every tech person I've ever messaged is on Facebook. They might not post often, but almost all are there. Except for the weirdos like Dave Winer and Ryan Block. And they are on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
To private message in G+ I have to go to my Gmail page, get on GTalk and hope the user is active at that moment?
- Steven E. Streight
Sounds interesting Laura. I'd be interested in that nptech group.
- Mark Krynsky
I found my job at Aol through linkedin, it showed me one of my friends that works there and had them submit my resume... boom! Very powerful
- Matthew Voshell
LinkedIn continues to have some usability issues.
- Steven E. Streight
I'll add you, Mark! Oh. Are you going to NTC?
- Laura Norvig
Why did LinkedIn get rid of the Amazon reading list?
- Steven E. Streight
steven - pop up the chat window and choose the person, easy
- Kevin Marks
Unfortunately not Laura.
- Mark Krynsky
Long press the notification to disable it
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Kevin. But I still think G+ needs a Private Message function on the G+ page itself.
- Steven E. Streight
I should use Linkedin... I dont
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Steven... yea you are making this more difficult than it needs to be; if you want instant messagin, sure gchat (prop across gmail and google+) or you can post a message only to them;
- Matthew Voshell
long-press the notification to get to the app setting menu to diabel that apps ones
- Kevin Marks
Tina, your job is secure ... I think
- Laura Norvig
I wonder if the average non-geeky user of G+ understands how to private message someone on G+ though....
- Steven E. Streight
Must see battery life talk. Performance from the Radio up. http://www.meetup.com/seattle...
- clive boulton
WhatsApp is a mainstream app
- Kevin Marks
I'm not "making it too difficult", I'm advocating better usability and intuitive functionality for average users of G+.
- Steven E. Streight
it's located directly below your "posting" section where it says "who do you want to share this with?" and you select either all people, a couple circles, or a couple people. It allows targeted "messaging" in a powerful way... just no one is on there to send it to ha :/
- Matthew Voshell
Ilya Grigorik (Google) http://velocityconf.com/velocit...
- clive boulton
Who is using LinkedIn status updates as much as they use FB status updates or Twitter tweets?
- Steven E. Streight
I autopost to LinkedIn
- Francine Hardaway
WhatsApp nothing hotter
- clive boulton
LOL Matthew. Thanks. I think.
- Steven E. Streight
Laura ...maybe ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yea, i NEVER post on linkedin really... I just see who' changing jobs and connected to people i'd like to keep tabs on for future job searches
- Matthew Voshell
Autopost using what tool?
- Steven E. Streight
Facebook is HORRIBLE about explaining their UI, features. "Normals" have NO IDEA.
- Laura Norvig
So LinkedIn status update tool is not used much? I am starting to use it more.
- Steven E. Streight
They have a lot of controls that only appear on mouseover, too
- Laura Norvig
Facebook's the new SAP, too much privacy configuration complexity
- clive boulton
I aspire to be on everyone's "With Friends Like Him I don't Need Enemies" list
- Charlie Isaacs
Good question, Steven. Set it up so long ago I forgot.
- Francine Hardaway
Laura - -right again about FB features
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Too convoluted to configure privacy on FB?
- Steven E. Streight
Buffer, Steven
- Francine Hardaway
I'm in my own "I wouldn't want to be part of a group that would have me as a member" group. Wait, whut?
- Laura Norvig
nice one Laura :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Tech people seem to be very active on LInkedIn status updates. You have to click on Home to see the updates. Notifications are not implemented on your LI profile...?
- Steven E. Streight
Someone is video-bombing Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have a google circle of all the circles that don't contain themselves
- Kevin Marks
Tech people know how to autopost
- Francine Hardaway
Am I hearing this right? Scoble converted Steve to Facebook. It's cold in Hell today.
- Laura Norvig
I think she's just using the bathroom
- Kevin Marks
now gone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
All I personally want is regex filters.
- John Mann
Notifications can be a major security whole. Authentications to your phone ala google etc..
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin my head hurts now.
- Laura Norvig
Autoposting can lead to duplicate content and truncation issues?
- Steven E. Streight
I need to give Scoble my flowpast android app, but I need to port it to twitter API 1.1 first
- Kevin Marks
Scheduling Facebook posts is an awesome feature. I do it for pages I manage - don't know if personal accounts can do it too.
- Laura Norvig
only on Twitter. If it makes it past Twitter, it's good for LI
- Francine Hardaway
oh curate this
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Instead of autoposting, I do copy and paste, then make sure no truncation issues exist.
- Steven E. Streight
A smart phone would only fetch notification when the phone is slightly moving. If it's been sitting still on the counter for 30 minutes, why update notifications.
- Murray Macdonald
FBs convolutions likely due to MySQL under pinning, they really need a big graph database
- clive boulton
Android apps CANNOT modify or read the notifications as this would be a major security hole.
- Murray Macdonald
Im not using Foursquare that much. People dont need to know how many freaking times I'm at Home Depot
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Murray: I often set my phone on my desk for hours at a time, but still want notifications.
- John Mann
No. FB privacy setting convolution is deliberate
- Steven E. Streight
Then shake it.
- Murray Macdonald
...I'm at Home Depot A LOT
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I've never seen any reason to use FourSquare.
- Steven E. Streight
here's what Android notifications can do: http://developer.android.com/design...
- Kevin Marks
Google Glass Notifications: You just ran into a wall. You just hit a pole.
- Charlie Isaacs
I use foursquare to find places to go, and also to tarck where i've been
- Kevin Marks
My big question is why video chat/conferencing is not popular with average public.
- Steven E. Streight
That might freak me out
- Francine Hardaway
Google Glass reference is the new Beatles reference
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm not excited about Google Glass either.
- Steven E. Streight
deliberate FB privacy setting convolution -- i'll buy it.
- clive boulton
If you check in using Google Checkins, does that benefit Google Now over time?
- John Mann
lost kevin...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Speaking of Roku, i got the Roku 3... The headhone port on the remote is AMAZING... my wife is much happier with me :) But it has crashed twice in 3 days :/
- Matthew Voshell
Kevin: That's what the notification interface supports, but you can't create any alternative to it, nor can an app read notifications as this would be a huge security hole.
- Murray Macdonald
Matthew: that is cool.
- Robert Scoble
I'm intereseted in usability testing Google Glass, but I don't go out much, so my context is limited. LOL
- Steven E. Streight
Come back, Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
I have an old Roku. Wondering if there is any reason to upgrade.
- Laura Norvig
kevin call back in if you are able
- Tina Chase Gillmor
connectio dropped for me
- Kevin Marks
I got a Roku 3 too just for the Time Warner app which now enables me to return the HD Cable box I've been renting from them.
- Mark Krynsky
Tina, Home Depot should give you a kickback now.
- Laura Norvig
If GoogleGlass can alert you to a mugger approaching, by criminal record context, and what kind of weapon he has -- that would be useful.
- Steven E. Streight
Occulus Rift is what I want to try :)
- Mark Krynsky
That means it won't work in the sun, unless it is shaded like ski goggles.
- Murray Macdonald
it seems like seeing through it would be distracting to the way the brain processes stuff. Harder to read.
- Laura Norvig
someone tell Robert that he needs to drive 3 hours East to use thos
- Charlie Isaacs
Will Google Glass recognize facially someone you look at and link to their profile pages?
- Steven E. Streight
will try to get you back Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's called google glass. see Steve... you want one.
- Murray Macdonald
@Laura not unless you want the heaphone jack to stream without bothering people; otherwise the new OS, which the new global serach is brilliant, will get pushed down to the older roku's soon enough;
- Matthew Voshell
Google Glass as predator alert system.
- Steven E. Streight
it was me sorry
- Kevin Marks
Please augment my reality, Google Glass!
- Steven E. Streight
I think Glass has a LOT of potential uses, but I don't think Glass will actually do much of what people will wish it can do.
- John Mann
We want the Humachine super powers.
- Steven E. Streight
Danny talk about your activity tracking devices testing.
- Mark Krynsky
I Scoble wanted to go "all-in" he would use this instead: http://mgitecetech.files.wordpress.com/2011...
- Charlie Isaacs
Danny is keyword optimization chasing now obsolete for SEO?
- Steven E. Streight
yes. Google Glass as predator alert system - I'd buy for my daughter
- clive boulton
Robert looks like The Fly.
- Alex de Soto
Talk about personal drones you can buy now.
- Steven E. Streight
Yes. 2 factor auth.
- clive boulton
just got my fitbit. Krynsky, have you written a blog post on this stuff yet?
- Laura Norvig
I have those same ones on, Danny. I also have a Fitbit, and I'm currently charging my new Basis
- Francine Hardaway
The iWatch. We will be James Bond or Get Smart.
- Steven E. Streight
Notifications to the lock screen is a MAJOR security problem.
- Murray Macdonald
What's a watch?
- Murray Macdonald
shoot Kevin disappeared again
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Like Danny I'm testing all of those and a Bodymedia armband simultaneously...I'll be writing a full comparison soon too.
- Mark Krynsky
iWatch is a wrist worn computer. Love it.
- Steven E. Streight
Google Glass lightning rod? http://www.bloomberg.com/video...
- clive boulton
Apple just has to call it a body monitor and everyone will wear it
- Francine Hardaway
I'm also providing all of my data to someone who reached out to do a data comparison.
- Mark Krynsky
I will get one of the watch devices as soon as they can make it totally waterproof
- Charlie Isaacs
I think the creamery is shutting me down for overuse
- Kevin Marks
iWatch will mean you don't have to carry a smart phone around. You just look at your wrist.
- Steven E. Streight
I might write a comparison, and I might be too bored
- Francine Hardaway
A notification watch is a huge security hole...
- Murray Macdonald
They all suck as truly useful devices. Very primitive
- Francine Hardaway
Hopefully Apple will add additional sensors to the watch...if not, it's a missed opportunity to replace activity trackers.
- Mark Krynsky
Google Glass -- send an email by twitching your cheek?
- Steven E. Streight
Right Mark
- Francine Hardaway
Jack in?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google Glass is the next step to internet implants in your skull.
- Steven E. Streight
I can't use Microsoft office 'cos it sucks
- Kevin Marks
moores law doesn't work on batteries though
- Kevin Marks
Do you use Open Office?
- Steven E. Streight
What if the whole band for the iWatch was a solar cell?
- Alex de Soto
You don't like the activity trackers Francine? Strange. I gain quite a bit of value from them.
- Mark Krynsky
A watch screen should be electronic paper. It doesn't need to change that often.
- Murray Macdonald
are we in a Gibson novel?
- Laura Norvig
yes
- Steven E. Streight
Robert is the poster boy for the Singularity :)
- Mark Krynsky
Well the internet is a drug
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the Gibson novel is here, just not evenly distributed
- Kevin Marks
Robart: Now that you're an android guy you can just change your battery.
- Murray Macdonald
Irregularity
- Steven E. Streight
Hi, my name is Laura and I'm an addict.
- Laura Norvig
Did i mention John Scully is invovled with http://www.misfitwearables.com/????
- Matthew Voshell
scoble is the guy at the corner with the sign that says "The End is Near"
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I carry two Mophies an an external charger that can charge my iPad an iPhone simultaneously without a power outlet
- Charlie Isaacs
Kevin sendvideo
- Tina Chase Gillmor
there were so many product placements on this show. Sponsors, baby!
- Laura Norvig
Each one logs a different number of steps and different functions Mark, and none of them gives you actionable intelligence other than "do more." This is data, not information
- Francine Hardaway
Robert: Carry an extra battery that fits IN your phone.
- Murray Macdonald
I carry a Mophie and my Ford Sync charges my phone en route
- Francine Hardaway
I've been through 3 Mophie packs, the USB connector is very fragile
- Charlie Isaacs
Why don't they just solar power all these devices?
- Steven E. Streight
Francine, there is definitely compelling stories about people getting competitive about their steps, though. Louis Gray is a fanatic. I think he cheats, though.
- Laura Norvig
Down with Batteries. Up with Solar Cells.
- Steven E. Streight
But what's the end goal, Laura? Is it fitness? Burning calories? Harming your body?
- Francine Hardaway
Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I was very competitive for years as a runner, and simply overdid
- Francine Hardaway
Solar needs to be unrealistically large to power your phone.
- Murray Macdonald
Then long distance walk instead
- Steven E. Streight
Francine: I ran four marathons in high school so get that too.
- Robert Scoble
Francine, I can draw some interesting correlations and value from the reporting I get but I agree it can get better and I'm seeing some aggregation services that are starting to draw more actionable information as well.
- Mark Krynsky
Murray: yeah, solar doesn't work most days in half moon bay.
- Robert Scoble
Solar is still so primitaive?
- Steven E. Streight
Now I have to walk. Trashed back, bum hip
- Francine Hardaway
Talk about the batteries: you should read the new novel "CyberStorm" by Matthew Mather.
- Alex de Soto
Hilarious show
- Francine Hardaway
Thanks. Just caught the tail end, looking forward to watching the show tomorrow.
- Michael Roberts
that was fun. bye.
- Laura Norvig
It's bizarre that solar panels still need to be huge.
- Steven E. Streight
great show as always - even the parts I was yelling at the computer about :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Btw...awesome interview on Charile Rose last night with data scientist Jeffrey Hammerbacher yesterday worth watching http://www.charlierose.com/view...
- Mark Krynsky
solar panels need collection area
- Kevin Marks
Steven: farming photons takes space.
- Robert Scoble
Ok...good bye all...until next time.
- Mark Krynsky
if you want more power you need to gather more flux
- Kevin Marks
Thanks EVERYONE!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Solar works great. I have a 6sqft solar power charging a 12v car battery. If I run it all the way down it takes two sunny days or four not-so-sunny days to recharge it.
- Murray Macdonald
Have a good weekend. Lots of fun. Chat room was rocking, too!
- Robert Scoble
Solar cells could be magnified by amplifiers
- Steven E. Streight
flux capacitor
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert...go get Falcon Pro (Twitter client) for Android.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark that doesn't work for me.
- Robert Scoble
Also Pocket Casts for podcasting...those are 2 great apps.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark: it keeps saying I hit my API limit.
- Robert Scoble
The Chat room is incredible
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Mark: I break all non firehose-based products.
- Robert Scoble
Really? Crap...I've tried many clients and loved that.
- Mark Krynsky
this weeks tech crunch GG post. Jack in!
- clive boulton
Everything else is being miniaturized and amplified. Why not solar panels? Someone get on this. LOL
- Steven E. Streight
Slide over and jack in... definitely a keeper
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina. Is there an email address I can send you something at?
- Murray Macdonald
yes Murray tina @gillmor.com
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thx.
- Murray Macdonald
thanks Tina, that was great
- Charlie Isaacs
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- Steve Gillmor
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HI there
- Kevin Marks
hey Kevin. Hey everyone!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina! Gonna be a fun show today.
- Robert Scoble
Ah, this is what it's like in the GG Green Room, eh?
- Tom Guarriello
here
- Keith Teare
Tom: yeah! :-) I guess we'll talk about Samsung today, huh?
- Robert Scoble
Or we could talk about how Windows 8 is sucking air.
- Robert Scoble
Samsung says that: http://www.theverge.com/2013...
- Robert Scoble
Or we could talk about my drunken escapades at SXSW.
- Robert Scoble
Samsung? Did they do something this week? lol, that Radio City show was really cheesy!
- Tom Guarriello
Or we could talk about the death of Google Reader.
- Robert Scoble
Or we could talk about Facebook's new News Feed.
- Robert Scoble
No Google Reader jokes! I'm still in mourning...
- Tom Guarriello
Or we could just sit around and stare at each other. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Tom: I stopped using it in 2009. You gotta come into the future eventually. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Actually, as long as Reeder survives, I'll be fine.
- Tom Guarriello
I tell ya the new Facebook news feed blows away most things for me now. Can't wait for everyone to get it.
- Robert Scoble
You're funny, Robert. I can't do the research I to do with all that noise on Twitter, etc. I've got plenty of filters with lists, etc., but nothing beats reading those feeds in one place. At least not for me.
- Tom Guarriello
Tom: the Flipboard Cover Stories does that for me. That is getting better and better.
- Robert Scoble
But Facebook's new news feed is definitely eating into my reading time. By the way, you try Prismatic? That's rocking too.
- Robert Scoble
stand by folks. Onboarding Gangsters now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm with Tom
- Keith Teare
Downloaded Prismatic but haven't dug in yet. Same with just.me, which looks very classy, Keith.
- Tom Guarriello
Thanks Tom. Lots more to do.. but OK so far
- Keith Teare
Hi Robert. Glad to see you back and in one piece from SXSW
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, standing by waiting for Skype call.
- Robert Scoble
almost out of the gates
- Tina Chase Gillmor
6.3.0.582 is the Skype Version I'm running. Hopefully it all works. Updated this morning.
- Robert Scoble
robert do you see us acalling
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Version 6.2.0.1117 for me
- Keith Teare
Robert: So with such a terrible Samsung launch are you still going to switch? Does anyone care that the launch sucked when it comes to buying the phone?
- Michael Roberts
Finished setting up my just.me profile, Keith.
- Tom Guarriello
So, the breathing is too loud, but the potato chip crunching is hunky-dory?!
- Evan Prodromou
Or you talk about how all these fake viral videos (like the recent pepsi ad) are getting tiresome. How long before people get tired of it and the hit count drops.
- Michael Roberts
The chewing...
- Tom Guarriello
Steve just checked out which Beatle glass he's drinking from
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Think it'll be that reliable, Robert?
- Tom Guarriello
The Samsung photo features were very cool.
- Murray Macdonald
Google glass is a great toy right now, but I suspect it will take a gen. 2 before I'd drop a real phone.
- Michael Roberts
Robert: I don't get it, do you have a special eyeglass lenses prescription for the Google Glass?
- Nir Ben Yona
Samsung did that last year with with their WiFi direct photo sharing...
- Murray Macdonald
When you consider that the Nexus 4 requires no contract, the competition gets even stronger.
- Murray Macdonald
I suspect apple will catch up on all the specs, but the problem for apple (at least in Canada) is android phones are cheaper in terms of plans than apple, and as Robert says google glass connecting better with android phones matters.
- Michael Roberts
Strongly Disagree...
- Murray Macdonald
Samsung has done touchwiz UI for ages too
- Kevin Marks
Robert's got a green screen behind him today. maybe next time i'll surprise him with an exotic background
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple is still leading for now with Bluetooth LE.
- Murray Macdonald
you can type with one hand on an android phone with swiping
- Kevin Marks
The Google Glass IS pretty damn good. I think it'll shock a lot of people.
- Robert Scoble
Nir: there will be prescription versions of Google Glass when it ships.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Gotcha!
- Nir Ben Yona
eye detection in the browser: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013...
- Kevin Marks
I think the technology is advancing so fast, features are not as important as carriers, ecosystem, and connectivity to other devices. For now I'll stick with apple, but in a year maybe if google glass matures, and one cannot easily connect to google glass with an iphone, maybe getting android might matter.
- Michael Roberts
Photos faster than your iPhone... Quad core
- Murray Macdonald
I have a Samsung refrigerator
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That's what MS said 4 years ago
- Murray Macdonald
android shipped face detection in Ice Cream Sandwich; Samsung is just using it: http://developer.android.com/referen...
- Kevin Marks
We have Samsung Washer and Dryer and you can use an iOS app to check for trouble. ;)
- Alex de Soto
can I use my phone to check my frig to see if the milk is bad?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google sponsored openCV while apple didn't. Computer vision developers are very pro google
- Murray Macdonald
Please invite your friends to watch our live show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
tina Mitch Wong says stream is down: http://developer.android.com/referen...
- Kevin Marks
Darn, I have to watch the show later. Have to catch Cuban blogger @yoanisanchez now speaking at NYU. Enjoy the show folks!
- Alex de Soto
Steve: you were all about screen res when the retina came out. Now that Samsung is in the lead your story changes.
- Murray Macdonald
oops dropped out down to audio
- Kevin Marks
the better screen changes all the time, today samsung, tomorrow apple, next week, someone else. It will ebb and flow all the time. I agree with Gillmor.
- Michael Roberts
he's gonna blow today. I can feel it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the samsung phone has 4 times as many pixels as the iPad Mini
- Kevin Marks
Kevin will you mute your mic? Your breathing sucks.
- Robert Scoble
surely it blows
- Kevin Marks
Speech recognition on Android is significantly better than iOS. This will be increasingly important as we get into wearables.
- Murray Macdonald
I have tried Prismatic. It's okay, but I like Feedly better, and it will let me switch easily from GReader
- Francine Hardaway
Name droppers
- Francine Hardaway
<eye roll>
- Evan Prodromou
Stream your video to others over Wifi Direct. The idea of people having to look at your screen is wrong.
- Murray Macdonald
Murray I was just thinking that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd never swtich to Android because of Samsung, I'd switch because android's ecosystem becomes so strong with their google apps and glass integration. google apps and glass would be the only reason I'd switch away from an iphone, never for the phone itself which to date has never been as slick as anything apple has created.
- Michael Roberts
stream video into their glasses
- Kevin Marks
Kindle fire HD?
- Frank Paynter
iPad mini is 1024x768 Galaxy 4 is 1920x1080
- Kevin Marks
why not carry it around. It's not that big
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Having joined late, I apologise if you've discussed this topic, but what's your take on Samsung trying to move away from Google Android? Yesterday, it felt like Samsung is building dependence on Samsung branded software, so when they are ready with Tizen (or other alternative), they can switch without damage.
- Petr Faitl
I take my regular size iPad with me everywhere
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HTC One is also 1920x1080
- Kevin Marks
z0
- Francine Hardaway
The google ecosystem is already excellent. Gmail, Google Maps, Google Earth, turn-by-turn, Google Drive, etc...
- Murray Macdonald
+1 Murray
- Frank Paynter
Motorola will release one that size soon too
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: And so does the Sony Xperia T.
- Nir Ben Yona
not even google thinks motorola is building competitive phones
- Ludwig Ederle
Murray: I agree, but I think like many who have invested in Apple, it would take something like a google glass to be the tipping point. Clearly that's the case for Robert.
- Michael Roberts
Still waiting for the 7" Samsung Note
- Frank Paynter
Is there a Google product that has changed the game as much as Android in the last decade? In fact, since Google Search?
- Evan Prodromou
Nice that Dan is back in the tech fold but his bandwidth needs help ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Then they'd better find a word for it besides "third half"
- Francine Hardaway
It seems crazy to frame Android as some kind of sinking ship.
- Evan Prodromou
Google glass... how to walk into lamp posts without hardly feeling it.
- Frank Paynter
Third eye?
- Kevin Marks
Third eye is perfect Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
andy rubin is just tired of running android, he wants to build new cutting edge stuff
- Ludwig Ederle
Chromium. http://www.chromium.org/
- Murray Macdonald
nothing to do with android/chrome os
- Ludwig Ederle
Jeff Huber going to Google X too is interesting
- Kevin Marks
Robert: that's clearer, thanks.
- Evan Prodromou
Keath: I agree. I think if google really started to tightly integrate their apps with android, glass etc. the way apple does, I think would be amazing.
- Michael Roberts
Talk phablets
- Frank Paynter
Google glass/wearables/ okay fine bye
- Frank Paynter
these new 5" 1080p phones are phablets
- Kevin Marks
Is 5" big enough?
- Frank Paynter
talk online, whether mobile or desktop or glass is not important, content and context is important
- Ludwig Ederle
No joke
- Frank Paynter
only 5''? @Frank :)
- Ludwig Ederle
Seven or eight inches is the form factor that I find most comfortable but I'm in the senior citizen demographic
- Frank Paynter
I think Dan's right on
- Tom Guarriello
Right: the focus should be the mobile operating systems for both apple and google - and everything else hangs off that.
- Michael Roberts
Chrome of Android is already excellent.
- Murray Macdonald
Hoot APPLE LEADING THE WAY!!! Can I quote you?
- Frank Paynter
it is on 4.0+ yes. they need to backport to 2.3 too
- Kevin Marks
Buying NeXT was hardly open-source.
- Murray Macdonald
FreeBSD was open source. Webkit is
- Kevin Marks
Google Glass needs something to use as a base station, it will either be a phone or a tablet
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
honestly I think the iPone size ( iPhone 4) is getting to be too small of a form factor sor me. May be my advancing year
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Chrome Pixel
- Tom Guarriello
When Google looks over their shoulder they're not looking at Apple, they're looking at Microsoft. That's a better quote.
- Frank Paynter
Why not make the android OS run on the desktop. The base is android.
- Michael Roberts
All comedians want to play Hamlet...
- Tom Guarriello
:-)
- Frank Paynter
Michael: Android already runs on your desktop if you install the emulator.
- Murray Macdonald
you can apparently run android on the chromebook pixel
- Kevin Marks
They're hedging. Why bet the farm on one platform?
- Murray Macdonald
Murray: I guess what I'm saying is why have an emulator at all. If you notice IOS and OSX more and more they look the same to the point where IOS is changing OSX more than the other way around. The same strategy could apply for google.
- Michael Roberts
Heads up display like the US military aviators have used for a couple of decades needs to find its way into the marketplace. So it goes.
- Frank Paynter
Having touch on the Chromebook Pixel is not competing with MS; it's just covering holes, and making sure bases are covered. You don't want someone else sneaking up on you and delivering a nice touch laptop experience and leave you in the cold.
- Kevin Bryan
running Android or Ubuntu on a Chrome Pixel: http://liliputing.com/2013...
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Kevin
- Frank Paynter
These OS are just front-ends to the cloud. The cloud is stickier than a front-end client. Clients and client OSs will come and go while gmail and other cloud apps will persist.
- Murray Macdonald
+1 Murray
- Frank Paynter
These cloud/HTML only machines are VERY secure. They may find a market in the enterprise.
- Murray Macdonald
Compute in the cloud is the only way to do Computer Vision and Machine Learning for the next 5 years.
- Murray Macdonald
Chromium was the only OS not taken over at Pwn to own
- Kevin Marks
you can do some vision clientside
- Kevin Marks
Keith: I agree, and the trend seems to be this UX experience is getting to be incredibly important.
- Michael Roberts
Glad it has no cell radio. That will significantly help the battery life.
- Murray Macdonald
Google has patents on eye tracking... It would be hard to compete without it.
- Murray Macdonald
L.L. Bean has a wearable tech shirt in the works
- Frank Paynter
Barcodes are passe. Computer Vision will recognize the object before you can touch it.
- Murray Macdonald
"It was rumored that hackers for big media companies had figured out a way to get through the defenses that were built into such systems, and run junk advertisements in your peripheral vision (or even spang in the ... middle all the time - even when your eyes were closed. Bud knew a guy like that who's somehow gotten infected with a meme that ran advertisements for roach motels, in...
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- Kevin Marks
Try taking your gloves off in -10 on a chairlift. Oops dropped one...
- Murray Macdonald
Thank you Neal Stephenson
- Frank Paynter
I think we are winning at first world problems here
- Kevin Marks
boomers want things *now* - the next generation may reject all of this instant access and return to a more in-the-now experience
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I agree with Dan that this is beginning of the wearable computing. Apple will respond to Google at some point as well as others. The question is how far ahead is Google?
- Michael Roberts
Google Glass in casinos? I don't think so
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Casinos that aren't online? For how long?
- Murray Macdonald
While cycling more than driving
- Kevin Marks
SXSW is the only use cse for many apps
- Francine Hardaway
Let me put in a plug for Leica ultravid 8x20
- Frank Paynter
Attention Surplus Disorder... that's the show name
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What you see is what you get
- Frank Paynter
very handy as a motorcycle rider
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert, bring Steve into the future: Google Glass! :)
- Kevin Bryan
Steve: Get an old school dedicated car phone.
- Murray Macdonald
+1 steve... not our demographic
- Frank Paynter
I already use audio turn by turn on android while cycling
- Kevin Marks
Vibrating seats.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm interested in Google Glass. But really dont know what it's going to be like in praticum
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm crying nerd tears for Google Reader right now. I use it every day!
- Kevin Bryan
It probably won't understand me any more than Siri does
- Francine Hardaway
We used eye-tracking to shut down kiosk displays when people look away 4 years ago. Also shut down the screen if someone was looking over your shoulder.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm furious about Google Reader
- Francine Hardaway
Reader in Glass - killer app
- Kevin Marks
those brain cells are floating
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Seriously pissed off about Reader
- Tom Guarriello
it's not that people have shifted from RSS it's shifted from RSS *READER*
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Yes, and that's because I don't get all the health care feeds, or all the world news from Twitter feeds
- Francine Hardaway
RSS is still there and present - it's the reader that has been removed
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Anyone using Google Reader right now, try out Feedly. It migrates data very well with Google Reader info.
- Kevin Bryan
There are LOTS of RSS readers.
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin B I did
- Francine Hardaway
+1 Murray Macdonald
- Kevin Bryan
@Francine cool!
- Kevin Bryan
I am too limited by getting all my news from Twitter and FB even with the number and types of people I follow
- Francine Hardaway
I live in Reeder daily
- Tom Guarriello
We need open feeds and flexible (user-controllable) filters.
- Murray Macdonald
It was sooooooo fast for me to read
- Francine Hardaway
Focusing on Google Reader simply to consume feeds is short-sighted. There are 6,142 recipes on IFTTT.com right now https://ifttt.com/recipes... and many other people use it as plumbing for other functionality.
- Mark Krynsky
NetNewsWire
- Tom Guarriello
Yes, Mark. I have several IFTTT Reader recipes
- Tom Guarriello
Right, Kevin Marks, I depended on Google search to give me news
- Francine Hardaway
Remember Yahoo Pipes? 475 results for Pipes using Google Reader http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes...
- Mark Krynsky
this is great news for the Activity Streams folk IMO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Superfeedr is ready to do that
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Reeder is a nice skin for Reader's crawl on desktop and iOS devices.
- Tom Guarriello
Thank you Kevin Marks for explaining why Reader was so dominant and useful.
- Kevin Bryan
Filter in the cloud. Use notifications when something changes. Polling is a non-starter.
- Murray Macdonald
Activity streams could get rebooted by this yes. Also Pubsubhubbub
- Kevin Marks
the difference is reader is public streams primarily
- Kevin Marks
Track, FTW!
- Tom Guarriello
anyone publish/curate using scoop.it ??
- Frank Paynter
Activity Streams would be a welcome reboot Kevin.
- Mark Krynsky
Open sourcing or cloning of the Google Reader API that becomes distributed would be nice too.
- Mark Krynsky
Filtering and machine learning can solve that problem. You need to merge RSS, Email, Social Streams, SMS into a single filtered feed.
- Murray Macdonald
the mobile devices have higher res screens than the laptops we were using in 20005
- Kevin Marks
Exactly, Steve.
- Tom Guarriello
I've played with Scoop.it Frank...but I've decided to go with Rebelmouse for that functionality http://lifestreamblog.com/curated...
- Mark Krynsky
+1 Murray
- Frank Paynter
Thanks Mark... I haven't looked at Rebelmouse.. will now
- Frank Paynter
Keith Teare, I'm with you. Robert, I hate the Flipboard interface. Distracting
- Francine Hardaway
if borthwick can add Readability to digg+bitly...
- Kevin Marks
That's why I called this Google Reader move fratricide. http://tomguarriello.tumblr.com/post...
- Tom Guarriello
Smaller niche blogs will suffer. My blog still gets much referral traffic from Reader and Feedburner
- Mark Krynsky
Smart filtering needs to be a cloud service, not something managed by each respective feed. We all need to merge our feeds into a single targeted feed.
- Murray Macdonald
Flipboard is great to read, but I can't sort through 150+ news articles at a glance in Flipboard. Only Google Reader.
- Kevin Bryan
Everything is pushing us small bloggers away...
- Mark Krynsky
OPML -- that's right
- Francine Hardaway
you can still get OPML out of reader
- Kevin Marks
Maybe dropbox will take this on now that they bought Mailbox
- Michael Roberts
I agree... great show this week.
- Frank Paynter
Thanks for not talking about TV shows. :)
- Murray Macdonald
Didn't talk about the beatles though
- Frank Paynter
That was Marco Arment's point, Kevin. Competition will grow from the Reader murder...
- Tom Guarriello
Will the Pope get a wearable?
- Murray Macdonald
It's in the shoes
- Frank Paynter
Feeds and SEO are becoming less important and becoming good at finding how to promote through social media has become critical so that you are funneled into the "new" news feed.
- Mark Krynsky
frank - but Steve is drinking out of his George Harrison glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Good. That way people can write their own filters.
- Murray Macdonald
+1 Tina
- Frank Paynter
It's all about the #hashtag now :)
- Mark Krynsky
Comments on Facebook hashtags?
- Murray Macdonald
In line social ads... see everybody at the Indian Wells Art Festival 4/6-7?
- Frank Paynter
I joined late...but think you guys were talking about wearable computing. The quantified self was a huge hit at SXSW...I wrote about it http://lifestreamblog.com/was-qua...
- Mark Krynsky
+1 Robert's comments.
- christina sponselli
GTG
- Kevin Marks
bye all
- Kevin Marks
Bye Kevin
- Tom Guarriello
Bye Kevin.
- Mark Krynsky
+1 Steve
- Francine Hardaway
cya
- Murray Macdonald
Bye Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
Sorry Kevin. Bye
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Bye Kevin
- Frank Paynter
Twitter is mostly a notification stream. real info doesn't fit in 140 characters. You need to follow the link.
- Murray Macdonald
Britta filters!
- Frank Paynter
Good conversation, GGers
- Tom Guarriello
Thanks everyone. That was a good show.
- Murray Macdonald
Good show as always. Thanks everyone.
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks. Good show.
- Michael Roberts
Bye, Robert. See you on your blog. :)
- Kevin Bryan
Great show. Thanks.
- christina sponselli
Aren't social feeds are the junk food of the information world? Full RSS feeds are good wholesome organic food for the soul.
- Todd Hoff
Gillmor Gang: Attention Surplus Disorder - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Robert Scoble, Dan Farber, Keith Teare, Kevin Marks, and Steve Gillmor — enjoys a week of actual tech news for the first time in quite a while. Samsung's latest big screen phone comes with a suite of Android add-ons, some of which tickle @scobleizer's shiny bone while making it clear his rationale for switching to Android has more to do with pocketing his Google Glass base station.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 03.15.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, Kevin Marks, Dan Farber, Keith Teare and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 1pm Pacific.
- Steve Gillmor
Twitter has broken adding Twitter accounts to FF
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try adding a Twitter identity to your FF account. I'll wait
- Steve Gillmor
Works for me, no problems removing and re-adding my Twitter account.
- netik
tinagillmor tries to add her twitter feed, gets an error. Says "could not find the given account."
- Steve Gillmor
from IM
bit quick to conclude that twitter has broken with FF don't you think?
- Christopher Harris
no christopher if it's FriendFeed's problem I'll be talking on NGL in 30 minutes
- Steve Gillmor
Happened to me as well, once I clicked the checkbox below the name and put in the password it worked for me.
- J Allen
Jtio what checkbox, the one for Protected?
- Steve Gillmor
yes I noted this problem yesterday and today - FF said it could not locate new twitter feeds I wanted to add.
- Vernonkell
Don't blame Twitter; I just checked our feeds and are definitely sending tweets to Friendfeed, and they are receiving them.
- netik
People are also having difficulty following people. I've seen many messages over the past couple of days with that complaint.
- Karoli
Yes, the one for protected updates
- J Allen
Where do you go to tune into the NGL live??
- Dave Winer
Bret Taylor of FriendFeed on NewsGang Live at 1PM Pacific stream http://tinyurl.com/6ze734
- Steve Gillmor
from IM
Something not working with Twitter? That's truly surprising considering they are the most reliable service on the net.
- Bjorn Stromberg
i log into twitter and start following a user - cool. i go to FF and try to set up an imaginary friend (enter name, select twitter service, enter twitter name click "import twitter" and BAM: "We could not find the given account" whoever is causing this, it sux and needs to stop.
- MikeAmundsen
interesting. I saw that a bunch of tweets seemed to come into FF 30 minutes late yesterday. I wonder if this is part of a strategy on Twitter's part to disrupt Twitter service within FF in order to undermine the competition without coming out and taking the heat for publicly pulling the API from them. I hope not.
- Thomas Hawk
Figures the day I finally give in to starting a FF page and I can't wire up my Twitter account.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We're running into some rate limiting issues, but I'm working with Twitter to get them fixed. I just put out a work-around for now, so you should be able to add your Twitter account now. Sorry for the difficulty.
- Paul Buchheit
Welcome to FriendFeed Tina.
- Thomas Hawk
Wait, what's broken? Twitter or FriendFeed? Don't understand the post. :(
- Mona Nomura
Broken for me at the moment too...
- HostelManagement.com
same issue for me
- Sinan Yuce
Same issue for me. It says "We could not find the given account" when I want to add the Twitter account...
- HDG Ticaret
i am able to add one of my twitter accounts with password, but not another. the second one i still get an error account not found. this sucks.
- Sriky
friendfeed is pulling my tweets from twitter. I want to stop this. In settings, I am not allowed to do it anymore. Can someone help?
- Fatmanur Erdogan
Same issue, @Fatma, servislerden twitter'ı sil.
- siniradam
Gillmor Gang: Pinch and Spread - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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The Gillmor Gang — Robert Scoble, Keith Teare, John Taschek, Kevin Marks, and Steve Gillmor — spent a beautiful Bay Area day chatting amiably about Android, Apple, and the GUI formerly known as the Lock Screen. With notifications becoming the default interaction point with email, social, and app inputs, the Gang is split down the middle. On one side is @scobleizer and @jtaschek and partially @kevinmarks; on the other more correct side is @kteare and me, @stevegillmor. We think Apple has the more elegant if slightly hamstrung solution, while the rest are Android fanboys waiting desperately for the latest Samsung phone. And of course, @scobleizer sees everything through his forthcoming Glassware, or as he joked, being a Glasshole about it. Oh, the humanity.
- Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim... http://friendfeed.com/realtim...
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I am ready!
- Ludwig Ederle
I'm waiting for the call. The wifi here at the Westin sucks, so might need to switch to cell phone.
- Robert Scoble
I switched from Coke Zero to Diet Pepsi Wild Cherry - I already feel different.
- John Taschek
I am drinking Coke Zero. So there.
- Robert Scoble
Cola fan-boy fight.
- Murray Macdonald
Montepulciano :)
- Ludwig Ederle
Hi all. Hope you're all gathering round for this week's edition of The Gillmor Gang.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
For extra points I just gave a speech to a Fox exec who runs the systems behind American Idol. Lame Coke reference.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble has Coke Zero? I must go and get one.
- John Taschek
I am drinking Kool-Aid
- Charlie Isaacs
In a fancy can, too, John!
- Robert Scoble
You should after yesterday!
- John Taschek
I'm drunk on kool aid
- Keith Teare
:)
- Charlie Isaacs
Tejava
- Alex de Soto
Kool Aid no longer works on me.
- Robert Scoble
One of those aluminum cans that look like bottles? They're so cool even if they are expensive.
- John Taschek
@Robert Scoble Do you have an actual physical Apple Fanboy Card™ to turn in today? :)
- Kevin Bryan
I need a new drug! ;-)
- Robert Scoble
John: yup. I am holding the bottle can.
- Robert Scoble
First person to say Google Glass wins a valueless mystery prize
- Roger Shepherd
Are you guys late today because you've been sequestered?
- Charlie Isaacs
I am sticking with my italian red friend :)
- Ludwig Ederle
Just spike the Kool Aid
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin: It was in Apple Passport so I shredded it there.
- Robert Scoble
Charlie: I was late because I was giving a speech to a bunch of IT people from Audi, Fox, etc.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert LOL
- Kevin Bryan
Today in lieu of the live broadcast The Gang will be FriendFeeding Snarky Comments
- Charlie Isaacs
Anyone else hyped about the Glass readily available before year-end announcement?
- Murray Macdonald
Ooh! Snark Shark attacks! I love it!
- Kevin Bryan
So what fanboy cards are to be turned in today? One Apple card has been shredded already...
- Ludwig Ederle
Scoble - are you answering your video?
- John Taschek
calling scoble???
- Tina Chase Gillmor
is there a show already?
- Ludwig Ederle
Hmmm. I didn't get a call.
- Robert Scoble
American Idol sent us a cease and desist at ribbit
- Kevin Marks
Scob? answer or are you not set up yet?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble was talking to Audi, Fox? Did you realize the Audi 80 was called the Audi Fox in the US?
- John Taschek
I was speaking at a conference this week and used Google Glass as an example. I said "has everyone heard of Google Glass" someone in the front row said, "where have you been, it was on the Oscars." oops, should probably watch more TV
- Charlie Isaacs
Did the Audi Fox eat the VW Rabbit?
- Kevin Marks
I had Peruvian Kola at Waza yesterday
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, you were a Waza tweetin' wildman yesterday! Interesting stuff.
- Tom Guarriello
Apple stock is crashing today
- Murray Macdonald
What do you need a congress for when it comes to mobile?
- Ludwig Ederle
iPhone 5S rumored to ship August 2013 http://onforb.es/Z32kTm
- Nir Ben Yona
@Scobleizer announces that he is buying the Samsung, Apple stock nosedives
- Charlie Isaacs
most stocks are crashing today, except salesforce and groupon(!)
- Kevin Marks
How down is it Murray?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My new Nexus-4 feels AMAZING, but the battery is short.
- Murray Macdonald
"No wow in Motorola" http://www.theverge.com/2013...
- Charlie Isaacs
@Robert... why not Nexus to be on top of the updates?
- Matthew Voshell
io13 early invites go out next Friday! (gdg ions)
- clive boulton
We're making 90% of money and traffic out of iOS, not Android, downloads just the other way around btw
- Ludwig Ederle
Is a one-eyed device still called a pair?
- Murray Macdonald
Scobleizer is spelled with one eye
- Charlie Isaacs
a pair of Glass
- Kevin Marks
Google Glass + Robert Scoble Notifications= Epileptic Win
- Matthew Voshell
backbeat go
- Charlie Isaacs
@Robert.. what battery life are you getting with those? These jaybirds http://store.apple.com/us... are advertising 8 hours
- Matthew Voshell
The Backbeat Go: http://www.plantronics.com/us...
- Charlie Isaacs
They closed the if I had...earlier today
- Tom Guarriello
That's it -- the Backbeat - I have a pair -- they are great.
- John Taschek
Sadly #ifihadglass was only open to Americans over 21.
- Murray Macdonald
size isn't everything in phones, sergey
- Kevin Marks
That was the Google Emasculation Proclamation
- Charlie Isaacs
Google Glass = Over the dorky line
- Ludwig Ederle
Sergei's emasculating comment was just goofy.
- Tom Guarriello
Yeah, making believe you're paying attention while not paying attention...
- Tom Guarriello
Ludwig: That's what people said about cell phones
- Murray Macdonald
Probably every 1st gen device is over the dorky line?
- Ludwig Ederle
multi-eye-balling, the new multi-tasking
- Alex de Soto
Glasshole - instant classic
- Murray Macdonald
Glassholes =)
- clive boulton
coming soon, a screen for each eye, so you can look left or right
- Kevin Marks
thank you for tweeting the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
left eye for the right glass and vice versa
- Ludwig Ederle
It's down 2.5%
- Murray Macdonald
thx Murray
- Tina Chase Gillmor
anyone remember this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Kevin Marks
phonegap 2.5 was released yesterday.
- Murray Macdonald
Samesongs and Glassholes. Love it.
- Alex de Soto
Linux FTX
- Tom Guarriello
The reason why Apple stock is tanking, here is the new set-top box: http://ow.ly/i/1BPMn
- Charlie Isaacs
I hate it when the thrusters dont work!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://www.forbes.com/sites... Shield act
- Tom Guarriello
Patents are getting harder to get. Prior art is more inclusive.
- Murray Macdonald
Are there Vegas odds when Scoble will come back to Apple while he wears Glass.
- Tony Stanislawski
That would be great if they passed that law. Patent trolls must go.
- Charlie Isaacs
Steve Mann says Google glass could hurt people's eyes
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
• A provisional filed before the deadline can secure a filing date, but the prior art searches are based on the rules at the time of the non-provisional application. That means that before the deadline, searches are subject to USPTO rules and after the deadline, searches are subject to ROW rules. ROW rules vastly broadens the search for prior art.
- Murray Macdonald
no microsoft bashing about the surface pro?
- Matthew Voshell
You will love Jordan Keith. Great people and food. I loved Amman
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Anything cool on Kickstarter or Indeigogo?
- Matthew Voshell
Aol's new CEO of Brands?
- Matthew Voshell
Matthew - no i think they've beaten that one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Just read Kevin's Twitter feed to get all of Waza!
- Tom Guarriello
3D printed cars... https://www.google.com/search...
- Murray Macdonald
The Linus Torvolds vs. Redhat scuffle??
- Matthew Voshell
@Murray: 3D printing is mind blowing. Check out this one: 3D-printed semi-automatic fires over 600 rounds http://ars.to/XKYGxl
- Nir Ben Yona
What happened to SaneBox Robert?
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
They have to install diopter
- Tom Guarriello
I am far-sighted and wear glasses and i had no problem reading the Vuzix.
- Murray Macdonald
haha John very funny :) I'll stop typing into our patent filing app now
- Charlie Isaacs
Open source and publish your email architecture.
- Murray Macdonald
Is that a satellite communication device in Kevin Marks' backyard or is that an umbrella
- Charlie Isaacs
There's also Cloze https://www.cloze.com/
- Nir Ben Yona
Tempo is great
- Ludwig Ederle
Where are MY Google Glasses?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I use Sunrise and can't get Tempo
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
tempo seems to be US only - or I can't get it in the UK anyway
- Roger Shepherd
open an US apple id
- Ludwig Ederle
For a laugh, go to youtube and search "do the harlem shake" .... nice little easter egg
- Matthew Voshell
I believe it depends on how the android developers code their notification.
- Murray Macdonald
Apple need to release something that is much more than a boring TV. It needs to be an iScreen. Come in 4 sizes. Super thin, with Gestures, Siri and AirPlay controls. Apple TV installed, with iOS, FaceTime and the App Store. This iScreen would not only be for the sitting room, but also Shops, Schools, Businesses, Hospitals, Museums, Hotels, etc
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
@Roger Tempo is a US only at the moment, and they are using the Reservation mode.
- Nir Ben Yona
It's easy to clear off all notifications on Android. Much prefer that to Apple's.
- Alex de Soto
My next patent filing will be "restroom jammer"; it will render Google Glass unusable in restrooms. It will be called "Method and Apparatus for Shielding Private Objects"
- Charlie Isaacs
Email was the universal push notifications center. People didn't much like that either.
- Todd Hoff
YESSSS... Delete All would AMAZING
- Matthew Voshell
Charlie: Wearing Glass in restrooms could be very emasculating to some!
- Alex de Soto
That button can also be a problem. Once they're gone they're gone.
- Murray Macdonald
Sunrise is a terrible name for a product -- it's too hard to Google!
- John Taschek
They also show up momentarily at the top when they arrive.
- Murray Macdonald
press and hold this
- Tina Chase Gillmor
And when Sunrise is "end of life" do you say "It's time to Sunset Sunrise"
- Charlie Isaacs
I love it when Tina talks that way
- Charlie Isaacs
LONGG tap
- Kevin Marks
Tina's done a thrusters and press/hold double entendre so far...
- Tom Guarriello
Dirty Tech Charlie
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Go to Youtube, search for "do the Harlem shake" and BOOM http://bit.ly/YPkSd4
- Nir Ben Yona
@Nir i JUST said that :/
- Matthew Voshell
Reality deletes everything over time!
- Tom Guarriello
Don't even get me started on Clusters
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Android also added easy access to control panel settings on the notifications page.
- Murray Macdonald
Has this showed turned into old men yelling "I DONT GET ITTTT"
- Matthew Voshell
Anal Retentive Caliope Blues FTW!!
- Tom Guarriello
@Matthew Oh missed that :) It's cool, anyway.
- Nir Ben Yona
I'll show you mine if you show me yours #HomeScreens
- Charlie Isaacs
Pre-ignored is also a good one
- Tom Guarriello
hahaha, various daughter requests for money...."
- Ludwig Ederle
I'm at Inbox Meh
- Kevin Marks
Hmmm... I wonder if you can program a custom notifications screen on Android...
- Murray Macdonald
you can make custom notifications. What do you mean, murray?
- Kevin Marks
Is Maryam trying to distract Robert in an effort to make him all hot and bothered during the Gillmor Gang? sabotage!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes she is! Yowza!
- Robert Scoble
You don't need to have millions of notifications to keep up to date. I think it's more destracting than helpful to have all these notifications, including the daughter requests
- Ludwig Ederle
@Tina.. Theres the Microsoft bash i was waiting for...
- Matthew Voshell
Yet another show withoug mentioning microsoft
- Ludwig Ederle
I just fired up the Nexus 7 to compare
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Yes you can... http://developer.android.com/guide...
- Murray Macdonald
OMG
- Tina Chase Gillmor
oh boy here we go party's getting rough
- Charlie Isaacs
Who named these things?
- John Taschek
Pinch and spread? really?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, here it is: http://www.androidpatterns.com/uap_pat...
- Charlie Isaacs
Pepsi Wild Cherry just shot through my nose. Coke is way better
- John Taschek
@Moe... Yea.. FB reaching much?
- Matthew Voshell
OMG we just turned into a tutorial show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wait - that may be taken out of context
- John Taschek
Are those instructions, Tina?
- Tom Guarriello
@Kieth.. When you enable notifications it usually defaults to "on" usually
- Matthew Voshell
lol the tutorial comment
- Tom Guarriello
please show off your lock screens, folks
- Ludwig Ederle
where's the Scobleizer rant today?
- Ludwig Ederle
This show is available shortly on iTunes U
- Ludwig Ederle
Manually or By Time too!
- Alex de Soto
can you drag around the entire phone?
- Ludwig Ederle
It's important to sleep with the enemy.
- Murray Macdonald
I think we've reached the most epic level of nerdum..
- Matthew Voshell
make the enemy feel safe
- Ludwig Ederle
go ahead John
- Ludwig Ederle
How many blinks will unlock your Glass?
- Alex de Soto
I was just thinking about the lock screen and Glass.
- John Taschek
imagine the glass lock screen
- Ludwig Ederle
People don't know 1/10 of what their device can do.
- Murray Macdonald
Pinch and Spread: http://ow.ly/i/1BQuK
- Charlie Isaacs
LockerPro Lockscreen for Android puts notifications on your lockscreen.
- Kevin Bryan
pinch and spread your head
- Ludwig Ederle
@Robert do you envision your life as good as the people on Wall-E?
- Matthew Voshell
Speaking about tutorials: You can activate the LED light on notifications. So whenever a notification is in, the LED light of your camera will blink.
- Nir Ben Yona
@Steve Gillmor that "lockscreen notifications" feature is here: http://goo.gl/HPAEc
- Kevin Bryan
i have to jump off in 5 mins
- Keith Teare
When he goes Android all Apple memory will disappear
- Tina Chase Gillmor
another tutorial in the works, Keith?
- Ludwig Ederle
keep going ranty John
- Ludwig Ederle
if Scoble switches to Android on March 14 he should beware the Ides of March
- Charlie Isaacs
VIPs get through the Do Not Disturb setting, no?
- Alex de Soto
@Robert. You're going to want an Android phone to go with Glass. What are you going to use?
- Murray Macdonald
The Apple Dumpling Gang - The visual is amazing - http://bit.ly/WmeAmL
- John Taschek
lost Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ludwig - I think I lost it --
- John Taschek
:( John
- Ludwig Ederle
TIna
- Robert Scoble
back again
- Robert Scoble
Because JS geeks want a clean platform
- Murray Macdonald
call me back. Westin kicked me off wifi
- Robert Scoble
we're trying to get you back
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeah, I use Chrome on my iPhone too, John
- Tom Guarriello
call with video on Newsgang3 Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm back!
- Robert Scoble
HTML5 is just the display formatting. JavaScript is the language.
- Murray Macdonald
thanks Keith - drop when you have to
- Tina Chase Gillmor
got to go. guys
- Keith Teare
The new JS toolkits (like sencha) are surprisingly good.
- Murray Macdonald
Be careful in Jordan, Keith
- Tom Guarriello
Safe travels Keith
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve Souders really digs down into high perf / low latency mobile web http://www.stevesouders.com/
- clive boulton
Developers and falling in love with PhoneGap. It's taking off. It's not slowing down.
- Murray Macdonald
any thoughts about the pixel?
- Ludwig Ederle
Responsive Design addresses that issue.
- Murray Macdonald
good question, Ludwig
- Tom Guarriello
Try this on your phone's browser... http://cdn.sencha.io/touch...
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin and Souders share same mobile first plus app dev strategy
- clive boulton
responsive design is a given now
- Kevin Marks
Google can't really expect people to buy Pixel
- Tom Guarriello
Chromebook offers security that is lacking on other machines. If you want to run web apps without risks of infections, it will be uniquely useful to some enterprises.
- Murray Macdonald
thanks for picking it up, Robert
- Ludwig Ederle
so many accessories almost a Surface
- clive boulton
SwiftKey is AWESOME.
- Kevin Bryan
...and your daughter is pretty fast
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Court reporters do 800 wpm. There are many faster typing methods if you are willing to learn.
- Murray Macdonald
So nothing about the Yahoo workplace
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Telecommuting is the only way... I wouldn't work for a company that was opposed to telecommuting.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm glad salesforce lets me work from my garden
- Kevin Marks
Serious perk, Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin, what do you hear about Yahoo ee buzz about the work at home ban?
- Tom Guarriello
No Yahoo, no PlayStation, no Microsoft
- Ludwig Ederle
Why does no one mention Steam on this show when video games come up?
- Kevin Bryan
Steam reacently announced a linux version I think
- Murray Macdonald
Yay Tina! Always making it fun!
- Tom Guarriello
ubuntu mobile ?
- Ludwig Ederle
Mix them.
- Murray Macdonald
The Steambox (Steam TV settop box) should be using Linux.
- Kevin Bryan
Thanks for a great show
- Ludwig Ederle
Twitter is too busy. Wrong tool, IMHO.
- Murray Macdonald
ditto, mucho thanko
- clive boulton
Moving on from FriendFeed would be nice.
- Kevin Bryan
Twitter #gillmorgang?
- Matthew Voshell
Thanks, Steve
- Tom Guarriello
Yahoo has big internal silo problems; they do need to get teams to be together more. Not sure wfh is the real issue though.
- Kevin Marks
true twitter is busy
- Matthew Voshell
where do want to move for announcements of unusual show times? Sry, didn't get that
- Ludwig Ederle
Thx to everyone. Always a pleasure. please think about FriendFeed replacement
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what about an irc chat?
- Ludwig Ederle
or g+
- Ludwig Ederle
Google Hangout On-Air through Youtube and just comment below while its live?
- Matthew Voshell
i think we would need some custom irc
- Tina Chase Gillmor
probably irc works best
- Ludwig Ederle
It would be nice to have something that showed inline images and handled links in a predictable way. IRC clients are all over the map.
- Murray Macdonald
no irc
- Steve Gillmor
and why don't you do some pre- and after-show live?
- Ludwig Ederle
why not, Steve?
- Ludwig Ederle
the show is pre and after
- Steve Gillmor
:)
- Ludwig Ederle
Steve says no-way to irc, btw
- Tina Chase Gillmor
don't like it, too noisy
- Steve Gillmor
He's right
- Murray Macdonald
?
- Ludwig Ederle
It needs to be web-based.
- Murray Macdonald
aha
- Ludwig Ederle
so how about a google plus community and chat there?
- Ludwig Ederle
or web hosted by app
- Steve Gillmor
noisy depends on the moderation
- Ludwig Ederle
@ludwig... Google+ Community is a great idea... can post the live streams there..topic all the posts... i like that idea
- Matthew Voshell
Thx, Matthew
- Ludwig Ederle
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