Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 05.16.14 -
Gillmor Gang - Kevin Marks, Dan Farber, Keith Teare, John Borthwick, and Steve Gillmor. Live recording session today at 1pm PST. Join in our chat community here on Friendfeed And find us on Facebook here. Read More - Steve Gillmor
ready - Kevin Marks
Hiya. Where are the hats? - Ian Waring
First time back!! Excited to have time again to watch! Random but does anyone have advise on finding a tech job in Sydney Aus? Moving there in July - Matthew Voshell from iPhone
I have an umbrella that looks like a hat - Kevin Marks
google has a fairly big Sydney office - Kevin Marks
@kevin yea I've seen they are hiring a lot I applied bt.... Getting into google I have more of a chance becoming president! Lol - Matthew Voshell from iPhone
I can make a hat, I can make a broach, I can make a pterodactyl #airplane -- hi everyone - Charlie Isaacs
drink every time Keith says mobile - Kevin Marks
I've been Tango'd - Ian Waring
who's going ping? - Kevin Marks
I drink every time Kevin speaks with a British accent - Charlie Isaacs
Submarine sonar - Ian Waring
some of us were in another FF thread, we are all coming here now - clive boulton
Drink every time you need another hit - Keith Teare
just found this chat. sorry I must have set up an alternate - Tina Chase Gillmor
Good good good - Ian Waring
make a sonar noise every time someone subtweets - Kevin Marks
I read the Times on my iPad every morning. I don't need notifications from them. I need deep stories. - Alex de Soto
shameless self promotion: Working on an open source Circa-like CMS through a generous grant from the Knight Foundation story here: - Matt Terenzio
welcome - Keith Teare
I use as a long form front page - Kevin Marks
I don't value the NYTimes - Kevin Marks
hey Tina we were talking behind your back while you were gone - Charlie Isaacs
Newspapers are an over 50s thing... - Ian Waring
10 free a month per browser is about right - Kevin Marks
They haven't effectively marketed this service. Confusing marketing messages only compound the problem. - christina sponselli
(I do have 5 or so browsers) - Kevin Marks
I see that hat chat going on - Tina Chase Gillmor
In the UK, six major paper owners. Source of all the contentious piffle and hatred here. Good riddance as the Young move to other sources of news - Ian Waring
Guardian, Daily Mail do better than NYT - Kevin Marks
thanks for the acknowledgment, Charlie - Tina Chase Gillmor
FF GG threads went into two streams mode today, like distributed systems, eventually consistent. - clive boulton
Article format needs to be disrupted. That's why people find Circa interesting. Whether you aggregate or not is secondaryto inventing a native online new format. Articles are a print leftover - Matt Terenzio
They can keep it. Govt here are not valued. No real choice... - Ian Waring
Medium interesting too - Kevin Marks
The Beats Music interface is perfect for an iWatch and for the car. - Alex de Soto
I thought Beats were going to be Apples new youth brand - antidote vs Xiaomi, who are taking share from Samsung in China aiming at their 18-35 demographic - Ian Waring
A Siri + Beats Music combo would beat iRadio anytime. - Alex de Soto
Having listened to that interview, it sounds like a mix between iTunes Match and Genius with a curated "next track to play" - Ian Waring
Structured data as atomic units of news. People love narratives but they need to be comprised of smaller units. Stories don't begin and end with an article. They are living things that go on like soap operas - Matt Terenzio
Any comments on Ivy Ross joining the Google Glass team a la Angela Ahrendts? - Alex de Soto
Does beat have a break though technology we haven't seen? - Arnie Klaus
Bass - Matt Terenzio
no, they have a large following with less overlap with Apple - Kevin Marks
what about the stream service? forget about the hardware - Tina Chase Gillmor
HeartBeats - Alex de Soto
It might eventually get some Android converts. I'm willing to bet the Beats users are using Android more than iPhone - Matt Terenzio
If they're using Google Play, there is a big hill to climb for Apple/Beats - Kevin Marks
Totally: over years the Apple Experience has been delivered through desktops, laptops, phones, tablets. Next come accessories, clothing, furniture, cars, etc - Simon Benvenutto
did Steve just admit android envy? - Kevin Marks
I'm still sticking to the idea that you can cram a lot of hardware (sensors, cpu, memory) and intelligence into those huge freakin' Beats headsets. Watch that space. - Charlie Isaacs
i keep missing everyones beverage breaks. darn - Tina Chase Gillmor
Xiaomi Tablet at $245 looks like an Android iPad Mini - Ian Waring
I wondered about the stream service, but didn't seem like Apple couldn't have done that. In other words, how big is it? Could kickstart a spotify competitor but - Matt Terenzio
MS is doing cloud but I still get lost in the maze - Arnie Klaus
Office 365 is good, but as soon as you open a doc in the actual app, it gets sulky about edit collisions - Kevin Marks
Kevin - Steve likes Android products when they sit in his hand. He does like the larger screens for sure - Tina Chase Gillmor
low hanging fruit in the ears sounds like strange piercings - Kevin Marks
I'd prefer notifications to be a pssstttt in my ear rather than on Google Glass or a Watch - Ian Waring
Office 365 doesn't deal well with edit collisions - Sigh. Their MBA PMs holding back engineers. - clive boulton
xiaomi TV is very cheap I want as a monitor $650? - Kevin Marks
$245 or $275 with 64GB - aimed at 18-35 year olds. Beats demographic! - Ian Waring
Steve's huge Tricaster screen seen on G3 was good - clive boulton
Make their money on services - Ian Waring
clive, we are seeing that same screen today - Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks for the nod to G3 tho - Tina Chase Gillmor
A lot of what Jimmy Iovine talked about in That Video is "what plays next" and the idea of algorithmic playlist that are contextual, to the environment. - Simon Benvenutto
I remember doing that linking in html way back when - Tina Chase Gillmor
Fragmentions - love it - Keith Teare
Disagree - Xiaomi are first purchase after leaving home - 18+ demographic - Ian Waring
Kevin - you have to get - Keith Teare
I have it running on my blog - Ian Waring
steve can you pivot more into the light? - Tina Chase Gillmor
you're looking shady - Tina Chase Gillmor
LA Times preloading pull quotes as tweets, - christina sponselli
some lightbulbs just went off? - Tina Chase Gillmor
that's an html thing, right? - Tina Chase Gillmor
That URL jumps to the word Demon in a blog page - Ian Waring
Add ##string to the end of the url - Ian Waring
hilarious dead air from Steve there - Matt Terenzio
I thought he would say Links are Dead - Matt Terenzio
Borthwick has a very organized office. I'm jealous - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd like to attend the NYTimes event mentioned. Any link to that Kevin? - Matt Terenzio
Tina, that screen is terrific. NASA! - clive boulton
NYT is gonna get Shanley's back up. - clive boulton
thanks - Matt Terenzio
thanks Clive. We might need to get another so we don't have to move them around for the two shows - Tina Chase Gillmor
Instapaper is an example of solving that - Kevin Marks
hedge trimmer noise here - Kevin Marks
I'll try muting round it - Kevin Marks
Adobe Cloud has been down for much of the day. All those people using their Creative Suite cloud apps can't work. - Murray Macdonald
and Yelp - Kevin Marks
that was weird - Tina Chase Gillmor
it wasn't you Kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor
A lot of background noise and echo too, this is due to Scoble not being on the show this week! - Simon Benvenutto
I'm still slef-muted - Kevin Marks
show titles please - Tina Chase Gillmor
In other words, content is a tough tough business these days - Matt Terenzio
Title: Beats of the Times. - chris dowling
what's the problem with NYT? can't they hire some innovative tech minds? - Tina Chase Gillmor
dan feels passionate about news - Tina Chase Gillmor
title: Times are a changin' - christina sponselli
they can but they can't keep them, Tina - Kevin Marks
'cos they're a politcal snakepit - Kevin Marks
they have some smart tech people, but they can't always get traction - Kevin Marks
they don't want to tarnish their brand but they are in the process of becoming irrelevant like microsoft - Tina Chase Gillmor
BBC mobile app is my main source for news. Good content with zero advertising. - Murray Macdonald
Similar to Microsoft - Matt Terenzio
And the Beats go on - Matt Terenzio
NYT $2.25B valuation. Pinterest just raised $200M at $5B valuation. - clive boulton
Pages became posts and posts became status updates and aggregation won - Keith Teare
And mobile re-defines the problem - Keith Teare
NYT need to "reprove" their brand - Tina Chase Gillmor
NYT should just allow folks to pin its articles on mobile apps. - clive boulton
News is the new music. The traditional product is free, and content producers need to find new sources of revenue. - Murray Macdonald
NYT needs to become just a news feed usable in other contexts? - Tina Chase Gillmor
I think it will be fine. But maybe journalism is just a much smaller business in the future. The package is busted and replaced by a hundred things, not just one different business model - Matt Terenzio
The music industry survives on broadcast royalties and live performances. - Murray Macdonald
Pinning content is worth more than reading content. Attention won. - clive boulton
Newspaper is alive and well on the web. It's craigslist, twitter, blogs, and ten other things - Matt Terenzio
decentrilized newspaper - Tina Chase Gillmor
I always think Kevin is wearing an umbrella hat. - Murray Macdonald
it's a real umbrella, but it is far away, not small - Kevin Marks
obsolete Mac processor? - Kevin Marks
Only real danger I see is who pays for the journalist that spend 6 months researching government corruption before having anything real to expose - Matt Terenzio - Tina Chase Gillmor
yeah, Tina! Go, girl. - christina sponselli
Hats! - Ian Waring
G3 was cool. Watched it today. Steve has to do the wave at the end of the show to match Tina's wave here. Congrats Tina! Next episode "shades." - Alex de Soto
Just need to put it somewhere where podcast apps can download G3 - Ian Waring
Valuations: Pintest $5b / NYT $2.25b / Github $1b ~ upside down - clive boulton
Thanks of everyones participation today - Tina Chase Gillmor
typos galore.... thank to everyone - Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Tina. Congrats on the new show! - Matt Terenzio
thanks Matt - Tina Chase Gillmor
hope you'll watch - Tina Chase Gillmor