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Lisa Hinchliffe
I've heard the statement often "it makes xyz person a better administrator if they do hours in abc frontline service" - e.g. one can be a better library director if they are doing reference hours. Regardless of what you believe about this, does anyone know of any empirical studies on continued engagement in frontline work relative to admin quality?
Another example, library directors who came from tech services should still be doing cataloging? Also curious about studies of middle management at places larger enough to have a secondary layer. Again, I'm sure we all have opinions - interested in research on the topic. - Lisa Hinchliffe
I do not recall seeing any research articles of this nature. I think it is possible to do some qualitative research to gather and analyze the experiences of administrators who do frontline service. I could share multiple examples with you of how working at our service desks has helped me to make better decisions based on observation, better understanding of workflows, seeing things from... more... - steven bell
Holly's favorite Anna
Can you direct me to the worst library website you've seen? Looking for an academic library, but will take other examples. My Google-fu is failing me.
Here's what one person thinks! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
I love the folks at UW-Oshkosh, so I feel like a traitor, but: - RepoRat
And if you want a nice linkfarm, - RepoRat
This guy doesn't name names, but I wonder if you could figure out who he's talking about? - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Like Oshkosh, we're doing a re-design soon, but our site is terri-bad: - Jen
Gotta admit, when I encounter a blog that's light-grey type on a dark-grey background, I take the advice on bad websites with a whole bushel of salt. Or would, if I was even willing to punish my eyes all the way through. - walt crawford
So one criteria for the worst website is number of links on the home page? we have 18 links, 13 buttons, not counting search tabs and menubar (mouse over drop down menu) - aaron
I think UW-Oshkosh best illustrates my point. Thanks, all! - Holly's favorite Anna
Aaron, we've got you beat by a mile for links. I remember counting 50 links on it a few years ago, and I thinks some have been added since then... I'd never suggest that it's among the worst library websites out there, though. - JffKrlsn
Right. Is not just the number of links. I wouldn't suggest ours is among the worst either. At least the current version. But i think our libguides home might almost rank as that and it's mostly my fault. - aaron
regarding that blog post, apart from gray on black problems, there's this: libraries that don't have a discovery layer are just plain stupid. "If finances are so bad, and there’s no other viable way, they should get rid of a member of library staff and invest instead in improving the services that are actually needed." Because as we all know, Primo and Summon work without any need for staff whatsoever. - barbara fister
...and that member of the library staff certainly isn't responsible for any services that are actually needed. :-/ - Catherine Pellegrino
ours is.... not so good. - Sarah
Might a before/after look help? See: (before) and (after - not completely there yet) Tried to move from link overkill to most important stuff you need and more visual content - steven bell
Public libraries are awesome at having bad websites! - Miriella
Made on a Mac, using Dreamweaver. This one is OK... - Julian
Just heard that Steven Bell will be the keynote at MOBIUS, I'm gonna have to actually go to the preconference this year.
I hope you can join us. I will look forward to seeing you there. And - it's not the same presentation. - steven bell
I plan to be there all three days. Looking forward to hearing you speak on "Cutting through the Noise." - Kathy
Cutting through the noise? Just turn it up to 11. - Joe
Eleven. Exactly. One louder. - Kathy
John Jackson
Well done. Good luck with your video entry. - steven bell
Brian Mathews
RT @mjdelia: @brianmathews: A Canadian experiment (#startuplib13) inspired in part by your whitepaper:
"Make Library Experiences Better" Sounds familiar but I like it. - steven bell
Stephen Francoeur
Anatomy of a Librarian [infographic] | Daily Infographic
Anatomy of a Librarian [infographic] | Daily Infographic
Gee, I don't see what's wrong. It starts off so well... - Stephen Francoeur
Ooh, it's by those people I hate, too. Good. - Meg VMeg
I want to believe it's a joke, but, well, yeah. - Katy S
Since I despise tall/skinny infographics in general (esp. online, as infernal scrolling devices with almost no "information" load), and since I avoid the online-for-profit-college web of websites, this particular one is...well, even bad by infographic standards, which says a lot. - walt crawford
How is belly dancing not higher up on the list than blogging? - steven bell
Blogging is cheaper. - Meg VMeg
insert standard stereotyped info, add reference, repeat. They forgot to add what happens when a librarian takes off their glasses... - Elizabeth Brown
Isn't it understood that the removal of eyewear is the start of sexytime? - Katy S
Well maybe - I've only heard about that in relation to librarians. - Elizabeth Brown
Sorry for sharing a disinfographic with no commentary. Glad to see y'all have provided necessary commentary. - Stephen Francoeur
I need a raise. - lris
And different glasses. - lris
Well, that's...cute. - Derrick
I agree that the fashion choices of the infographic are not really reflective of the profession. (Should have been Dansko clogs instead of high heels.) Oh well. (Don't get me started on the sorry state of eye ware in the world today.) - kendrak
I'm watching Glengarry Glen Ross. Jam packed with top notch actors performing superbly in a style that I just can't enjoy. Sigh.
That movie is exhausting. I feel the same way about "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" Tremendous tour de force performances and I need Gatorade afterwards. :( - Derrick
Exactly. It's exactly like the fast jazz soundtrack. I can appreciate it as a tour de force, but it's just not my thing. - lris
I feel so heavy and weighted down after these. I'm glad to have seen this type of thing, but I'm not going to watch it over and over because they're too much of an emotional drain. - Katy S
I love Who's Afraid, but feel bruised after I watch it. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
A...B...C... or as I tell the students A.. B... E.. Always Be Evaluating! - steven bell
Derrick: Good call. It's been a long time, but Who's Afraid was indeed a tour de force...that I'd never ever want to watch again. - walt crawford
That's kind of how I feel about The Mission. Amazing movie, but I don't really have any desire to watch it again. - Kirsten
Brian Mathews
This paper I'm writing just crossed 10K words and it's not even close to finished. Either super edits or making part 1&2 #acrl #acrl2013
In the world of design they say you add more by subtracting. Or did you really not need me to tell you that right now. - steven bell
Back to all that got put on hold for a great trip to NYC and Cultivating Entrepreneurship in Acad Libraries.
Hope you had a good trip back home and that the rest of your time in NYC was fun - great meeting you at ACRL/NY - steven bell
We had a great time and plan going back. ACRL/NY was a great investment, so many concepts/ideas to share with my colleagues. It was wonderful to meet you, thank you so much for all your insight!! - Kathy
Stephen Francoeur
Possibly a test for your new students? - steven bell
What does the other side say? - Andy
Deborah Fitchett
If you could make everyone in the world stop saying "information literacy" and start using a term of your own choosing, what would that term be?
(I'm currently pondering something like "information management". It sounds almost as dull but orders of magnitude less insulting.) - Deborah Fitchett
If someone figures this out, I will be so happy! - maʀtha
Ideally with something that non-librarians could understand. I don't think "information fluency" does it either - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I'd settle for making every librarian in the world stop using the term "information literacy" when communicating with anyone except other librarians. - Catherine Pellegrino
over here some are trying "media literacy" but of course it is supposed to be different from IL... but then I don't want to be drawn into the semantic debate..... - aaron
Critical inquiry - but it wouldn't matter because whatever one said, it would leave people confused. I do truly hate the phrase "information literacy" though. Not quite as much as I hate the standards, but close. - barbara fister
information quality! - henry
Tool use ;) - Pete's Got To Go
I'm with Catherine on this one! We use "information fluency" at MPOW. "Are you fluent in information?" - Ingrid Thomson
I'm actually fairly serious about that: I think of the term as a label, an arbitrary marker that doesn't have any inherent meaning except when used within a community of practice (librarians -- and as I've learned recently, often only academic librarians) who share a mostly-consistent understanding of what we mean when we say "information literacy." Outside of that community of... more... - Catherine Pellegrino
Was telling a colleague my plan to revamp a library workshop. His response.. so we really doing a real information literacy class huh? :) - aaron
Catherine makes a great point: use whatever term resonates most with your audience. I like critical inquiry or critical thinking because I think that tracks most closely with AAC&U essential learning outcomes, which I think faculty at my institution will be more familiar with: - Regular Amanda
Since we're unlikely to come up with the right terminology that connects with faculty - and from my perspective the key to getting integrated into the classroom is to get faculty engaged with the IL initiative - is to focus less on the terminology and more on the outcomes. What's the common ground we have with faculty when it comes to producing successful student researchers? I think we... more... - steven bell
Catherine: You did something extraordinary there (too bad it's so unusual)--you recognized that "librarians" and "academic librarians" are not inherently synonymous terms. As for "information literacy," it is two English-language words that I, as a non-academic non-librarian, have never seen as adding value when used as a phrase. No real alternative suggestions. - walt crawford
Instead of teaching information literacy or saying that a student has information literacy, I would rather teach information skills or say that a student knows how to use information well--to whatever test or standard is taught for a class. - Joe
How do you respond when somebody (vendor, colleague who doesn't work with public) asks why patrons don't use interfaces the way they were meant to be used? I struggle to answer in a polite and professional tone.
Point to kgs's "the user is not broken" essay. (I sympathize. I dumped DiscoveryGarden because their developers were EXACTLY like this.) - RepoRat
I think I'm just getting tired of saying the same things over and over again and can't believe people haven't figured this out. Thanks for sympathies. - kaijsa
do any vendors do user testing? seriously. take a look at the EBSCO interface, bleh. - maʀtha
This latest example was in response to my complaint that printing from an ebook platform isn't easy for patrons. Why do they need to print? Why don't they make an account? Why don't they download by chapter? Me: Because they want to. Because they don't want to make a zillion accounts for all our platforms. FOR GOD'S SAKE THEY WANT WHAT THEY WANT! - kaijsa
Ah. Then maybe the real answer is "because you're asking us to let users do things that scares publishers and we're afraid they'll all walk and we'll have nothing to sell you." I doubt they really think there's no interest among users in a simple print button. - barbara fister
When it comes from other librarians, though, my buttons are thoroughly pushed. - kaijsa
I've heard a librarian or 2 refer to students as "stupid." That drives me nuts. And to answer your question, I usually sit and stew. The specific people I'm thinking of are pretty enamored of their own opinions, generally. - YvonneM
I'm currently experiencing this at MPOW.. Our website and calendar were redesigned by someone internally who only does adult reference without input from anyone (or at least not from a large group of people). It's been a chore to navigate my own site to find things. And the new calendar has a style guide to it that does not reflect current practices and/or reality. Also, no input from people who would actually have to USE it. - Andy
Here's a story you can share. A national personal care products company discovered that men were using their body wash soap to wash and shampoo. The product was not supposed to be used for shampooing. A smart staffer said "let's change the product to "all-in-one body wash and shampoo" - that tripled sales and created a whole new product segment. Maybe they'll get the message. - steven bell
you missed "Book Museum." - RepoRat
Your library isn't a book museum anymore?! - Aaron the Librarian
Favorite workday breakfast. Go!
Bagel and coffee. Spreads and sandwich variety of bagels vary. - MoTO Boychick Devil
some kind of breakfast bar (currently BelVita) and a Diet Coke - ~Courtney F
Right now, i'm into the Greek yogurt with fruit and honey. - maʀtha
oatmeal with maple syrup. - DJF
Greek yogurt with fruit of some sort most of the time, though yesterday was apple cinnamon oatmeal with a BUNCH of brown sugar. - WebGoddess
All the coffee that fits in my French press. - barbara fister
The one I eat most often is an apple bar, but on days when I'm really down or know its gonna be a slog I have been known to buy a bacon and mushroom sandwich. - Heleninstitches #teamff
Cup of green tea and a banana+peanut butter or banana+yogurt smoothie - Galadriel C.
greek yogurt with fruit, honey, and crunchy cereal, and a coke. - Marianne
greek yogurt with fruit in the summer, baked oatmeal when it's colder out. Sometimes with greek yogurt too :) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Oooh, baked oatmeal sounds good. For me: green tea and peanut butter on toast, with coffee spread out over the entire morning. - Regular Amanda
Everything bagel and a schmear, iced coffee. - Derrick
I do the cold oatmeal thing during the summer (milk and/or yogurt mixed with regular oats and toppings of your choice mixed up at night and thrown in the fridge - it's all ready in the morning), but I'm planning to do the baked oatmeal thing this winter. - WebGoddess
i go back and forth between sweet and savory. this morning it was eggs scrambled with spinach, green onions, fresh tomatoes, herbs from the garden and a bit of gruyere. a lot of mornings it's my homemade all nut/seed granola with whole milk yogurt flavored with a bit of maple syrup and frozen blueberries. used to be a lot of toast and bready stuff, but trying to limit. my REAL favorite are these big oatmeal raisin/craisin cookies made with real butter at my favorite coffee shop. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Amandadon't, here's the baked oatmeal recipe Katy has gotten all of friendfeed hooked on it. :) ( I make a half recipe, which feeds me breakfast for a week) (and I use whatever dried fruits I have on hand) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Peanut butter, yogurt and granola wrap. Works best I think with blueberry yogurt and a wheat wrap - and I sprinkle some dried cranberries in there. Very fast to make and it's a really good combo. I alternate this with a smoothie that blends pomegranate juice, milk, banana, frozen blueberries and strawberries, a little bit of peanut butter and honey. Takes 5 minutes to make - with some toast on the side. - steven bell
I like Barbara's approach. :) I am preparing breakfast for myself and a wee one, so we alternate between oatmeal (with blueberries for me) and pancakes, usually with eggs or egg whites. - Catherine Pellegrino
Stephen, that wrap idea is *brilliant*!! It's a tasty protein bomb! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Yogurt, granola, and fruit in the summer; oatmeal in the winter, occasionally alternating with eggs and toast in either season. I also always have orange juice and coffee, though I keep trying to give up the OJ. - laura x
Rochelle, what is your nut/seed granola? Is there a recipe? - laura x
oh goodness! You're all eating healthy food! Me, head to one of the coffee places here on campus and get coffee and something called a "koeksuster" - basically a doughnut. Traditional Malay Western Cape favourite (especially for Sunday mornings). There are the "Dutch Koeksusters" but they are sickly sweet and syrupy. This one is ... can't describe it. But if you are ever in Cape Town,... more... - Ingrid Thomson
There's "favourite" (oatmeal with brown sugar and apple and cream and I forget what else from a campus cafe; or buttermilk pancakes made by a friend) and then there's what I actually have (muesli when I'm organised enough to have time, nothing when I'm not). - Deborah Fitchett
No offense to the rest of you, but I'm going to breakfast with Ingrid - maʀtha
Well, today it was chicken salad. We'll see if that holds me until lunch! - LB needs a break.
I keep misreading the name of Ingrid's Cape Town doughnut. - DJF
Coffee, coffee, toast, cheese, cold cuts, & yogurt. - Zamms from iPhone
I'm funky. I like my oatmeal lumpy. - copystar
I usually end up with a coffee and a granola bar (easy in the backpack). If I buy something once I'm here, it's usually either a yogurt, or an egg/cheese/bacon everything bagel. :) - Rachel Walden
One that is eaten at home because I'm not running late. - Holly's favorite Anna
(It's taken me years to figure out, but I have to do protein in the morning if I eat anything. Sugar does not start my day well, at all!) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
David Rothman (☤)
WTF. Salem Press is crazy. Please suggest the names of some librar* blogs fitting into "Special" category (law firms, large, medium, and small corporations, hospitals, newsrooms, and independent research libraries) that have actually been active and are deserving of recognition?
Seriously, please help me here. There are people who are doing GOOD blogging that deserves attention, but I read very few liblogs any longer and can't be sure what they are. Please help? - David Rothman (☤)
Sarah Glassmeyer? Rachel Walden? I don't read many library blogs, or special ones, but those two come to mind - ~Courtney F
Both excellent suggestions- thanks! - David Rothman (☤)
and, of course, Kendra :) - ~Courtney F
Two good ones in the law firm library area: and - Elizabeth
Thank you! More? - David Rothman (☤)
I don't blog. THOUGH I MIGHT RIGHT NOW - kendrak
Aren't these bullshit awards anyway? And isn't giving them more attention (even if it's just for being bullshit awards) exactly what they want? - Meg VMeg
What Meg said. no offense at all to the wonderful writers listed on the site, but I thought Salem Press made up this award thing 2 years ago just to drive traffic to their website? I've never paid any attention to it or taken it seriously at all. whenever I see it mentioned anywhere, my response is 'meh. publisher looking for attention. means nothing to me'. - Christa
Christa and Meg are both absolutely right. - David Rothman (☤)
If he (or someone else relevant) wanted to start/organize their own awards, I would be ecstatic. I don't care what Salem Press (or that other MASTERS GRADUATE DEGREES ONLINE FOR ONLINE EDUCATION site) says about pretty much anything, much less librarian bloggers, and I would prefer they not get attention for this. - Meg VMeg
I did this 6 years in a row on LISNews. I took this year off because it didn't seem like much new was out there. - Blake
Meg raises one of my peeves: The remarkable job that the Massive Network of For-Profit Online Education Sites has done of getting links for "10 Ways to Whatever" or "50 Best This" lists. As for this year's Salem Press comment. - walt crawford
The Open Laboratory series of books is a great example of how to recognize good blogging. Basically, it's a collection of the year's best science blogging, published initially through Lulu and now with a mainstream publisher. - John Dupuis
That! what Blake is doing on LISNews - that's what matters to me. not some publisher looking to get their name out there. I also look to the bloggers themselves to lead me to new people to follow - either with specific posts like the LISNews one, or just by looking thru the list of 'blogs i like/follow' on their site. - Christa
and there you have it. Salem Press Blog Awards are a load of crap. - Christa
At the risk of stepping into the traffic pattern here, I have written in favor of the awards as a means of recognizing good librarian and library blogging. In reading David's post here and on his blog and as someone who judged the awards last year, it does raise some questions. As a judge, I reviewed a ton of blogs that were clearly old and abandoned and wrote in my comments reflecting... more... - Andy
FWIW: In the past, they offered a cash prize. Now it's a plaque. Interesting that they would want to give you a physical object for a digital creation. - Andy
I nominate LISNews for a 2013 Salem Press Blog award. Any blog that has "RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Meebo" deserves an award! - Joe
Thanks Joe! (You'll like the new slogan better) - Blake
Andy, these awards are obviously Bullshit. I implore you to stop lending them whatever credibility they get from your endorsement and participation because it erodes YOUR credibility. - David Rothman (☤) from Android
Not a meaningless one, anyway. - David Rothman (☤) from Android
I was not too keen on these blog awards when they were first announced, and this is what I had to say: Lesson learned: When you do protest this sort of stuff or call it out for what you see it as, then your're perceived as a library killjoy - what have you got against anything that celebrates the accomplishments of librarians. I have always appreciated Blake's top... more... - steven bell
David, I think if I'm going to get pre-judged on the basis of an award, people will do it over the Mover & Shaker nod (another bullshit award, depending on your social circle) than the Salem Press Award. It's ironic because I don't really hold my state's Librarian of the Year award in high regard because I've heard it described as a "wait your turn" accolade; where is the merit in an... more... - Andy
On further thoughts, what this threads tells me is that there needs to be an LSW blog recognition thing, just like Makers & Shovers did for Movers & Shakers. Because there really are a good number of librarian and library blogs that should get recognition of some sort. - Andy
Steve, you might want to look at Jasper Fforde's recent book, "The Last Dragonslayer". The culture of magicians plays a role in this, and it is explained that magicians have ranks, which are skill based, and honorifics, which they give themselves. And they are very scrupulous about downgrading their honorifics when the circumstances warrant it. It was kind of interesting. - DJF
I hope I'm not the only person who can give me an award. I'm not inclined to do that.</facetious> I'm pretty much where Andy is. I *do* think there ought to be *some* ways we can recognize and celebrate each other, toot a horn that isn't our own. Maybe we currently do it badly. I shouldn't argue that either way, having been the recipient of (ill-deserved, quite possibly) accolades and... more... - RepoRat
(As for Movers and Shakers, I damn well got to sit at a lunch table with Griffey, John Blyberg, and this dude who was singlehandedly building a Drupal ILS for a school system that couldn't afford anything not homegrown. That will NEVER not be awesome.) - RepoRat
It doesn't? Oh.</notreallyfacetious> To some extent, drama and dissent are part of the game -- look at literary awards, next to which Movers and Shakers drama looks like a bunch of baby kittens vying to reach the milk saucer. I do also think, however, that as a profession we are for some reason deeply unwilling to approve of, much less celebrate, each other -- though always willing and... more... - RepoRat
There's certainly a fair bit of tall poppy syndrome in libraryland, that's for sure. We're intensely suspicious of people who market themselves too much or seem to want to be famous. I'm as guilty of it as anyone, sometimes. On the one hand, I've never been given any sort of formal award and at this stage of my life/career I don't think it would interest me that much. On the other hand,... more... - John Dupuis
I don't know about "tall poppy syndrome" exactly. We certainly talk up people who actually DO stuff. Nobody's trying to cut down Griffey, for example, but he's doing stuff. We definitely do like to take the piss out of people who seem to be famous for being well known, or advancing themselves primarily by talking about the things that other people are doing. - DJF
The thought occurs that at least some other award systems have very clear (if rather rigid) norms about how awardees are supposed to behave. (Think Oscars, for perhaps the most extreme example.) If we have those in librarianship, I TOTALLY missed the memo. - RepoRat
DJF, sure, there are plenty of people that are well-known for doing stuff that are not cut down. But there are also people that do stuff but are maybe a bit too showy about it that do tend to get taken down. Look at the Salem Press awards, I think there might be some of those in the lists over the years. - John Dupuis
Yep, I can see that. I've always kinda wondered about the Libn of Year awards at MfPOW, because again, the criteria are pure bafflegab and the committee meetings are sooper seekrit. - RepoRat
Steve, I don't know if there can be an objective set of criteria for an award. If we were both judges in that award, how would we measure a public librarian's children literacy outreach program versus an academic librarian's campus-wide administrative? Versus a medical librarian who devised a better and more efficient system for providing research and data to doctors? Versus a school... more... - Andy
I just really really REALLY hate this spectre that shows up when it comes to library awards about whether or not the person Deserves it. Not that there aren't people who get awards when they really shouldn't (take a moment, I'm sure you can think of a few), but this idea that you have to put in a magical undefined amount of professional time and labor before you are eligible to get an... more... - Andy
fair enough. i nuked things cuz i thought this was going a bit off the rails. to be frank, i would have called salem out similarly. i love you fuckers and want more critical debate. stoopid awards are awarded in all industries and of the three i've worked in so far, only librarians dissect them this way. if you hate the award - say that. if you love it - use it to pimp out libraries. if you're neutral - pimp out libraries. if you don't know, have fruitful conversation. and pimp out libraries. ; ) - jambina
According to the recognized pimpin' expert Big Daddy Kane, pimpin' ain't easy. Based on my experience pimpin' the library, I find this holds true. - Andy
yeesh, people. - jambina
Reading this thread, I think David's original complaint has gotten lost in all this. Salem Press gave the 'best special library blog' to a blog from someone who has no longer worked in libraries for a year and with only five posts in 12 months. Clearly this isn't an "award" - it's a marketing strategy to have blogs with large readerships link back to Salem Press. As such, I think it's worthy of some disgust and anger. - copystar
The rage comes from where ever rage comes from on the Internet. Everybody has different things they get incredibly angry about but the joy of platforms like FF & Twitter is that we all get to experience each others' flip-out moments. - John Dupuis
On the presumption that the judging criteria was the same this year as it was last year, as a judge you get a series of partial lists of blogs to evaluate. You get a blog title, a url, and a category. Other judges are given the same lists as well but you are not judging every single nomination that they receive. Some of the judging is very easy; the blog is clearly out of date or a link... more... - Andy
@Copystar- Thank you, yes. @Andy, the blog EXPLICITLY says I don't work in a library. The blurb from my ABOUT page that Salem put on their awards page says what I do for a living. If the awards have ANY meaning, is it okay for judges to say "Oh, I recognize that guy," and stop there? If it really is that casual, you're supporting my assertion that the award is meaningless. - David Rothman (☤)
Above, Steve Lawson wrote: "However, I think that David went a bit far in his effort to shame and embarrass people connected to the Salem Press award." 1. Steve, *you're* not allowed to fault anyone else for going too far. Neither am I. 2. You yourself have criticized others for ascribing motive- stop projecting. I didn't shame anyone. The award is obviously a marketing ploy and is... more... - David Rothman (☤)
For me, the bottom line is that they are using librarians as a means to an end, that unlike the Movers and Shakers has nothing to do with promoting librarians really. At least with Library Journal, you know there's a basic interest in stories that involve librarians. With a publisher like Salem, it's basically stroking so librarians will buy their books. M&S at least has a modicum of sincerity behind it. I don't really see the sincerity here. - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
Also, I'm cranky because I've been getting an increase of people stroking my ego for what can best be described as spammy purposes. - ɥsıuɐʎɹ
Again, Steve- you're ascribing anger where there is none. I wish I'd seen Jambina's comments. I didn't, so I can't comment further on that. Of course neither of us needs the other's permission, Steve. I'm trying to appeal to the most rational, reasonable parts of yourself. Your constant, hypocritical judging (and not just of me) is the reason why I rarely contribute anything here any... more... - David Rothman (☤)
You're not a bad guy, Steve- you're hypocritical and judgmental and I'm not the only one who feels like I can't say anything without taking shit from you. I'm imploring you to re-examine your behavior and consider a change. - David Rothman (☤)
LSW, remember when this was about cultivating a positive, supportive environment? Take care, folks. - David Rothman (☤)
I don't even see why "anger" keeps coming up. David's posts didn't read to me at all as "anger" - they read to me as "I think this is bunk, and here's why." It seems inappropriate to tell him what his emotions are, and then criticize him for them (other than telling him why you read it as anger), when he's explicitly saying it's not anger. I don't actually see how what he posted is any... more... - Rachel Walden
The wannabe anthropologist/sociologist/psychologist in me is very curious about why some people (myself included) thought the posts (especially the second post) sounded angry and aggressive while other people (like Rachel) didn't get that vibe at all. People are complicated. - lris
Maybe disdain is a better word than anger? Anyways, personally I think the first post was completely justifiable, hitting the appropriate level of disdain for what is pretty clearly a marketing ploy disguised as an award. The second post? Piling on a bit too much in my opinion and to me more angry than sarcastic or disdainful. Clearly the person involved sees herself as a bit of a drive-by victim and was probably hoping to discuss how she felt in private. - John Dupuis
David, the name recognition factor is one that comes in with any award. Whether it is an Oscar or employee of the year, people will go with names (and for that matter, terms) that they recognize over ones that they don't. It's the known vs the unknown. Even in this contest, I voted for blogs that I had heard over over ones I had not. If I was acting in an objective manner, I would have... more... - Andy
Hey guys and gals, look at these cute kittens! - Joe
I didn't mean to be a thread killer. I just wanted to lighten the mood a little bit. - Joe
LSW: Joe
Remember that OA journal project that I started discussions about a month ago? Well, we have a title (/Journal of Creative Library Practice/) and we are considering a hosting service. In short, we want to encourage more discussion of librarian creativity. Now that we have a focus, anybody else want to jump on board?
And, this is not just an LSW thing, we would like to have authors from any library or info center who would like to discuss their creative endeavors, not just LSWers. - Joe
I am guessing the launch will be anywhere from 3-9 month with our first issue. Depends on how quickly things move this summer and fall. - Joe
Great idea for a journal. I'd like to read more about how librarians are stimulating creativity in their organizations. You might be interested in checking out a special issue of Urban Library Journal from a few years ago that focused on "The Creative Library" - - it demonstrates that we have some truly creative folks in this profession - steven bell
Go bug the Library as Incubator Project for an article -- and tell them I told you to. Two out of three of them were my students. :) - RepoRat
Was planning on citing that article/issue for the opening explanation for the new j. - Joe from iPod
To RR, will certainly do. - Joe from iPod
Oh and Steven, congrats on the ACRL shindig. - Joe from iPod
Brian Mathews
Everything I submit to ACRL is always rejected. I only end up on OPP (other people's panels) but I'm submitting 2 this afternoon #acrl2013
Maybe this is your year to hit it big. - steven bell
The first rule of working the reference desk is to disinfect the reference desk.
Particularly the phones, mice, and keyboards - Christina Pikas from iPhone
My first rule - even before you get to the desk - a breath mint. Even if you think you don't need it. - steven bell
We do that every morning as part of Opening. (The reference desk, that is. We don't touch the patron computers.) - bentley
You know that book, Good to Great by Jim Collins? Well, yeah, Circuit City is one of the companies profiled in the book. I don't think they are so great at the moment.
Almost every "here are great companies and how they got that way" book is based on 20-20 hindsight, carefully preparing selection criteria by post-hoc filtering. In other words, they're mostly sourced from a bovine's hindquarters. That the post-hoc filtering breaks down in the future should be no surprise. - walt crawford
These books also have a heavily internal locus of control. They assume that the company was near-solely responsible for its own success. This is -- how shall I put it? -- nonsense. - RepoRat
I was surprised that Enron was not in the book. - Joe
You might want to pick up a copy of Collins' "How the Mighty Fall" where you can learn more about why some of the "greats" tanked - and others that declined but managed to fix what went wrong. There's four stages of decline before you get to corporate death. Some good lessons in there for leaders and would-be leaders. The big takeaway: Just because you're great today doesn't mean you will be tomorrow. - steven bell
And, when Collins gets it wrong this time around, he'll be back with another "FOR SURE THIS TIME" explanation of how there was something missing in his model the second time around, but it's all fine now. Sorry, but I don't plan to read either of Collins' books. Life really is too short, and I don't plan to be a Corporate Leader anyway. - walt crawford
Or me. - Joe
Oh, well, then, sorry. Or not. - walt crawford
Walt, I loved "good to great." Tons of great lessons, especially when applied to personal life. I dare you to read it. - Steve Koch from Android
You "dare me" to read it? I don't take dares on reading material. Sorry. - walt crawford
Ok, no need for sorry! I can just tell from your comment that you're way off on what you think the book is about. For one thing, I don't remember any predictions of future performance from the book. And the beginning (foreword perhaps) is a caution about data mining and the efforts they put into at least trying to do an objective study. To me it didn't really matter, because the lessons about good, bad leadership, passion, and pursuit of excellence resonated. - Steve Koch from Android
OK, I might be wrong about that one, but I've glanced through so many business books that use post-hoc filtering to garner Lessons that I'm innately skeptical. And, to be sure, it's a bit late for me to be looking for lots of personal lessons about leadership, passion and pursuit of excellence. My record (past and future) will have to stand on its own. - walt crawford
Catherine Pellegrino
How common is it, in academic libraries, for librarians to have tenure but not rank? (I.e., "Assistant Librarian," "Associate Librarian," etc.) Anecdata, please?
My two academics had both - Aaron the Librarian
We have both. - John Dupuis
We have tenure but not rank at MPOW, which makes us rather odd birds among the faculty and leads to some weirdnesses, like we can't serve on certain committees because you have to be associate rank or higher. It also means that we don't get the salary bump that comes with promotion. - Catherine Pellegrino
We have rank, but not tenure here. FPOW had tenure (well, "continuing status" and rank as asst librarian/assoc librarian/librarian rather than asst prof). First place I worked as a librarian had neither. - ellbeecee
we have both - maʀtha
We have rank (Instructor) but not tenure - Mr. The Jason Fleming
both - jambina
Here it's academic rank but no tenure. (Instructor, Assistant Prof, Associate Prof, Prof) - LB needs a break.
we have both. - MontglaneChess
both - Jen
Neither. I mean, there's some titles similar to the titles you mention, but they don't mean anything academically; the uni divides between academic staff and general staff, and we're general staff. - Deborah Fitchett
We have both here at UTC. - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
I've only heard of it the other way around til now. We have rank (Librarian, not Professor) and extended term, which is basically tenure-light. FPOW also had a process parallel to tenure, I think called continuing appointment, but had an additional rank between assistant and associate called senior assistant. - kaijsa
At Temple U Libraries the librarians can achieve something we call "permanent appointment" (rather than tenure - but it is much the same). However, the librarians do not have faculty ranks. Rather, they have an internal promotion system from L1 to L4. - steven bell
Very interesting. Thanks, y'all! - Catherine Pellegrino
Both. - barbara fister from iPhone
We have rank (Asst and Assoc only) but not tenure. - ~Courtney F
Ditto Courtney. Rank but no tenure here. I am an assoc prof, which means I get an official review every five years instead of three. - Joe
We have both in CUNY. - Stephen Francoeur
tenure (thought they don't know what the process is...) but not rank - tara
Rank but not tenure. - Jason P
I can't recall how it was at my first job, but at GVSU, they had both. They're separate processes and there's a sort of 'understanding.' (If I recall, I think people often go up for Associate when they go up for tenure, or shortly thereafter.) - Laura
neither here - Rachel Walden
ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
What lives in your Access Services department (if you have such a department)? If you don't have an Access Services department, where do functions like Circ & ILL live? (I'm pitching dynamiting our department, and would love to have a bunch of different models to describe.)
we just have one public services department with different things divided amongst librarians. circ and pr live with one librarian, ill and emerging tech live with me, instruction with another librarian. but I'm interested in hearing what else is there as well (especially after talking to you :) ) - Sir Shuping is just sir
Access Services includes Bookstacks, Circulation, ILL, Acq/Tech Services for this building, and Reserves. We're pretty traditional tho. There are 2 librarians (head of ILL, and head of Access Services) and everyone else is staff. - Hedgehog
We are currently traditional - Circ & ILL only, though. (We moved Stacks to Materials Processing - our tech services department - a few years ago, and more recently just moved course reserves over to Materials processing). I just talked to Susan at Appalachian State since I knew they blew up their model a few years ago; they merged Circ & reference; ILL borrowing lives in Acquisitions and ILL lending lives in Collections Management with stacks. - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
At Baruch College, Access Services includes all circulation (books, videos, technology), course reserves, and interlibrary loan. We have a Collection Management Division (that's where I am now) that includes tech services, cataloging, etc. - Stephen Francoeur
Circ and reserves, plus tech borrowing (laptops and the like). I think that's it. ILL (and doc delivery) lives in tech services and shelving is in facilities. - ellbeecee
circ, reserves, ILL, shelving - lris
Thanks, all - keep 'em coming! - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Ours is circ/reserves, media, ILL and document delivery, shelving, compact shelving facility. - kaijsa
Head of research services oversees reference services and library services. Library services is ILL/doc delivery/ e-reserves, robotic onsite shelving, circ, and now kind of acq bc head if collection development retired and is not being replaced immediately. I'm assuming shelving is handled there as well? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan from Android
circ includes reserves (and e-reserves), shelving and stacks. pitches in sometimes with periodicals and even cataloging/liaisons if the jobs they need done suit our students' training and we have the hours to spare. ill is officially under colldev, works closely with us though. our consortial lending/borrowing is circ, rather than ILL. - Marianne
Access Services consists of circulation, shelving, reserves, ILL, facility maintenance, room and equipment reservations, and electronic resource access. - Kathy
Circ and ILL cohabitate near the front door but are independent. Shelving is done by students who work for the collection management person who lives close to cataloging, but makes frequent forays abroad. Reference librarians hang out not far from circ/ill when the Reference is In. We don't actually have departments. Being anarchists, we must have blown up long ago. - barbara fister
More interesting was doing away with the concept "technical services" which lives on in legend if not actual structure. - barbara fister
MPOW (public library) reorganized massively about three years ago and now we have divisions into which the departments have been slotted. (1) Public Services Division comprises Information Services (formerly, Adult Services), Youth Services, Studio 270 (the teen room) and Circulation Services. (2) Access Services Division comprises Technical Services (which includes ILL), Collection... more... - bentley
Circ is part of "Library Research and Information Services", along with reference/infolit/liaison - basically it's all the customer-facing stuff. ILL is part of "Support Services" which also includes all the accession, cataloguing, plus the IT stuff that didn't get taken over by uni IT. - Deborah Fitchett
Our Access Services Dept includes ILL, Circ, Reserves, document scanning and delivery, stuff like that. - Joe
We don't have Access Services, just Circulation. Circ does check-in/out of reserves, books and pop media. Circ student workers shelve and shelf-read (in theory) ILL lives in Reference and has student workers for lending/borrowing. We have a second Circ area in the Listening/Viewing Ctr that does media circ & reserves and stacks maint. for the third floor. - ~Courtney F
We have an Access Services + Undergraduate Education department which includes the following "teams": ILL+Document Delivery, Undergraduate Ed, Circ/Reserves/Facilities and Security, and Resource Access Services (aka Cataloging) - Galadriel C.
I'm so intrigued by Galadriel's model there, I think rolling undergrad ed / FYE services into Access Services is really interesting. Access Services as MPOW has Circulation, ILL, Stacks Maintenance and Reserves. - Regular Amanda
Amandadon't - I've only been here 7 months, but I too find it interesting but I don't know the history/politics behind the move other than that there was a medium-sized re-org 2 years ago. UConn doesn't have a reference desk (has consultation rooms, librarians on call, extensive chat coverage, etc.); so, Undergrad Ed. librarians help cover the "iDesk" (circulation, reserves, etc.). - Galadriel C.
AS= circ/reserves/laptop lending/ILL (includes direct borrow system)/guest computing (we allow the public to access computers and internet)/security gates/off-site shelving facility/stacks/self-checks. Circ used to do the video loans but that was moved to a newly created media services unit. I was just communicating with a public librarian in NZ who told me they are eliminating the circ... more... - steven bell
Good elevator speech to researchers and students about Open Access. Go!
Jambina already had a line noted a week or two ago.... and it was "i'm a bit of a fan of the angle: shouldn't everyone be able to read your research? (speaks to egos...)" from - Joe
I tell a quick story - about the faculty member who came to me and told me the journal where he published his article wanted $1800 for the right to reprint his own article in an edited book - that usually gets their attention - and opens things up for the "don't be that guy" conversation. - steven bell
I try to use something to the effect of "Would you like to get more citations and have a wider impact for your articles?" - Joe from iPod
As I'm moving back into Instruction after years away, I need to know: What are your favorite/the best blogs and resources for instruction? (via
i barely do any instruction anymore, but i never miss char's blog. so much goodness - jambina
Char's book is hella good. I also found it obscurely reassuring -- several of her teaching methods and philosophies are ones I arrived at either by dumb luck, personal inclination, or trial and error. - RepoRat
Also, subscribe to the Adventures in Library Instruction podcast!!! - Stephen Francoeur
t is for training? - Aaron the Librarian
Barbara Fister's blog frequently delve into info literacy, as does Karen Schneider's. - Stephen Francoeur
T is for training follow @tisfortraining on twitter for latest show links. T is for Training is occasionally posted to ...but that is an unbiased opinion. Paul Signorelli's Lori Reed the ALA Learning RoundTable blog Academia has some good folks like CHAR also. - ♫Maurice the Dolphin♫
BTW, for me, twitter more effective than individual blogs. It is my main feed reader. - ♫Maurice the Dolphin♫
Not a blog, but see if your institution subscribes to The Teaching Professor. I always find some good instruction ideas in each issue. We have a site license and find it's a great way to connect with faculty who are also seeking new ideas for instruction and classroom management methods. - steven bell
Doh, Steve already linked... I hear that this Iris person has some good instructive instruction posts. - Joe
(Thanks, Steve!) Doubling the recommendation for Iris at and also adding in Anne-Marie Dietering at She doesn't post often, but her stuff is golden. - Catherine Pellegrino
:) Seems like the same awesome people as before! I already have all these blogs in my reader, I just sort of stopped reading them as life went the way it did. (I also really like Lane Wilkinson's stuff) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Meg VMeg
Patron just told me I am "more personable than a regular librarian".
Kudos to you for exceeding this patron's expectations. I've often written that they come to the library with low expectations for service (e.g., stereotype - the "regular librarian" is unapproachable and unfriendly), and that this should make it possible for us to routinely exceed user expectations if we demand it of ourselves and our colleagues. If you are interested, more on this here - steven bell
I just like the idea that you are not actually a regular librarian but some other, more rarified entity. - laura x from iPhone
I've been told that someone liked me more than that "nasty other woman" who staffs the desk. I didn't ask for them to elaborate. - Andy
Yeah, I was somewhat heartened and somewhat depressed. - Meg VMeg
Keep your eyes open, they may ambush you as you try to get to/from your office... "oh, there you are! I've been looking for you because you actually give me answers and show me what you're doing as you make them up" - Aaron the Librarian
That is an awesome feeling - congratulations! - Eric Sizemore
David Rothman (☤)
Any suggestions for vendor for bulk order of USB flash drives with a custom logo on 'em?
Our Outreach Dept. uses 4imprint: - Galadriel C.
You may want to check out Janway. Library novelties are their specialty. - steven bell
Mark Kille
Working on a book chapter revision where I'm a second author. The most common criticisms the reviewers had for my sections were wordiness and being judgmental. I'll cop to the first--I was trained as a humanist. And I can always edit down. But I'm honestly puzzled as to how I should offer critique without making judgments.
We're just supposed to play nice and say nice things with everyone? Happy critiques only? - Hedgehog
Most people, I think, would not consider "critique" and "judgement" to be the same. Related, sure, but not the same. I'm not sure what is going on in your chapter, but perhaps your assessments are coming off as being critical of more than whatever it is your chapter is about (such as an institution, theorist, etc)? - Soup in a TARDIS
Hm, it has been more, "If you want to do X without Y, it is very hard." - Mark Kille
Is the fact that doing X without Y relevant to the chapter? Or is it an unneeded personal belief held by you? Some people view any kind of unneeded assessment or extra comment as judgmental. It's also okay to decide your reviewers are simply mistaken. If you don't think their criticism on this point is valid, then seriously consider dismissing it. - Soup in a TARDIS
It's always directly on-topic for the chapter, but the argument doesn't always fall apart without them, so I am usually erring on the side of keeping the reviewers happy and just cutting. - Mark Kille
Dunno then, mate. Reviewers can be a prickly bunch in my experience. - Soup in a TARDIS
Did the reviewer provide something more concrete than just "eliminate judgmental language"? If you're doing a good job as a reviewer and you find fault with the language you ought to be able to provide sample text to demonstrate to the author how to more effectively approach the topic - or deliver the required improvement. You could push back and ask the editor to have the reviewer... more... - steven bell
I would a) take as generous a reading as possible of reviewers' comments and see if they help you in any way, b) check with the editor if you aren't sure what the comments mean and can't figure out how they might improve your work and c) ignore it if neither you nor your editor can figure it out or if you decide their suggestion is not helpful. Reviewers are often wrong. My guess is that it has something to do with tone more than actual argument, but that's just a guess. - barbara fister
And if he tortured animals as a child is probably also a serial killer. Which would account for the unhelpful review. - barbara fister
Well, this thread went... somewhere - Aaron the Librarian
To be clear, the reviewers had many other helpful things to say, and as it will (if all goes well) be my first official LIS publication, I'm open to the possibility that I'm an opinionated jerk by LIS standards. (@steven bell, no, I didn't get anything more concrete.) - Mark Kille
(Any thread with bed-wetting serial killers in it is a successful thread.) - Mark Kille
Definitely ask for clarifying info and sample text. I gave notes for tone to an author, and was happy to edit some of the text to show how I recommended the sections be changed. Like Barbara, I immediately thought of tone, rather than argument. - kaijsa
barbara fister
If you're thinking about Apple's textbook future, be sure to listen to this #thisamericanlife ep - & bring hankie
I see you listened in on the announcement.In order to use the free software for reading e-texts, would students have to buy the iPad. That is, is using their ebook platform tied to the iPad hardware? If so, where will all the students get iPads? Or can other non-apple devices be used? - steven bell
Sorry - missed this. I actually was hanging around while others who were there liveblogged, then made my comments on their reports. Though short on details, it was pretty clear this is a way of creating content for iPads which should be owned by every student apparently. - barbara fister
excellent way to sell iPads though. - barbara fister
The Concerned Librarian’s Guide to the 2012 ALA Midwinter Exhibit Hall -
It is done. Thanks to everyone for their help in making this happen. - Andy
thank you for doing it! an excellent, excellent post. - RepoRat
awesome and a ton of work. very useful... A note about Macmillan, though. The NPG people say that it's Macmillan-US which is the offender and that it's a division of Macmillan so NPG is not a division of Macmillan-US but Macmillan .... I'm confused but that's what they say. - Christina Pikas
That is a thing of beauty. Bravo!!! - laura x
Right on, Andy - Rachel Walden
Wow! An exquisite and thorough piece of work, thank you, thank you! - Galadriel C.
*Shared on ALA Council email list* - Aaron the Librarian
Steven Bell's insight into what the TAIGA folks expect from their librarians? - John Dupuis
i dont understand open access as a personal issue. Isnt it more reprehensible to take home vendor swag? or are employees expected to turn over those "gifts" to their bosses? - barbara fister from iPhone
Re: Bell: Um, wow. - laura x
For librarians who work at universities, like Mr Bell and his staff, how about, you know, "academic freedom"? - DJF
What Laura said. Though I think Susan S. and John Dupuis have ably addressed the relevant points. - Catherine Pellegrino
I sort of turn over vendor swag to my employer in that the ballpoint pens and USB drives supplement our Old Mother Hubbard stationery cupboard. I eat the jellybeans all myself though. And I don't consider talking to vendors about DRM or open access or whatever to be "personal advocacy" seriously what? - Deborah Fitchett
"How DARE you have, much less act on, a professional opinion that's different from OURS?" Yeah, btdt, it's a lot of why I don't work for an academic library any more. WTF does Bell think prof dev IS, srsly? - RepoRat
whoa Bell. whoa. WHOA. EDIT after Steven's comments below: that dude might hate being my boss. - jambina
RR- Probably What We Done Good and sitting on committees - Pete's Got To Go
probably. BAH. - RepoRat
I mean, I would check with bosses before I spoke; but only to make clear I'd be speaking on my behalf. In the law librarian world we have a vendor liaison committee, so I guess if something like this hit here they would make some of the running. - Pete's Got To Go
Am I the only one reading Bell's comment as a pitch-perfect example of concern trolling? - Catherine Pellegrino
I think my response may have been a wee bit impolitic. But less so than was my initial instinct. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Catherine, yes -- and I would add that any admin who gigs a professional for exercising voice on matters important to the profession prolly oughta be turfed out. (Circumstances alter cases, to be sure. But this one? Shee-it.) - RepoRat
(what's concern trolling?) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
@Rudi I like this definition - Hedgehog
Oh. Yeah. That's exactly what he did! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Yep. With a side order of "chilling effect." - Catherine Pellegrino
fuck that noise. - Jenica
At least he didn't sign as VP elect, ACRL..... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Hey guys. Help me out here. I'm not sure what you mean by concern trolling either. I'm presenting a scenario and asking a question b/c i'm interested in knowing what Andy's readers - and Andy - think about the issue. Don't interpret the question to mean that I wouldn't support librarians who want to take Andy's advice. As I said in the question, you can certainly view this as an... more... - steven bell
"VP elect, ACRL" You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. Oh, yeah, I guess you're not: - John Dupuis
Steven, when you ask a question of "is this action ethical?" and then follow it up with a comment "hey, don't interpret the question to think I don't support this action, I'm just asking a question" then you are "concern trolling". The fact that you associate this professional work with "personal advocacy" is very troubling - copystar
Steven, teh concern troll question has been answered. To address the content of your comment: If you truly don't support the position you're outlining, you could have asked "What would you suggest librarians do if faced with administrations that don't support such advocacy on what is considered professional time?" As written, up to and including your word choice and tone, it is clear to... more... - Jenica
Steven, I guess I fail to understand how a decent manager could object to having a well-informed, articulate staff member advocating on behalf of the profession out their representing his or her institution. Do you also encourage your employees not to drink or do karaoke at conferences? Not to wear "She Blinded Me With Library Science" tshirts, lest they look less than professional?... more... - laura x
Way Laura X explained it sounds pretty good to me. - Angel R. Rivera
Thank you Jenica. I appreciate the way you responded. And I want to make clear that as an administrator, I do support librarians who want to use conference time for advocacy activity. Clearly I didn't word my comment in the most effective way.I think most of the folks here know that I'm a strong supporter of academic librarians who advocate on behalf of their libraries and the... more... - steven bell
Ithaka just broke with AAP's stance on RWA. Move 'em to the orchids column. - RepoRat
Steven, you ask a bunch of questions in your original comment, like, "Would you spend an hour or two at your desk calling vendors to have a chat about legislation? Probably not. Is it acceptable practice at a conference?" Without meaning to unduly belabor the point, if you truly were "a strong supporter of academic librarians who advocate on behalf of their libraries and the... more... - John Dupuis
fwiw, my boss knows that I contact vendors to advocate positions that I think will help MPOW and really scholarly communication and information retrieval in general. I feel that I've been very successful in some areas - eta - yes, i do this on work time. - Christina Pikas
I'm expected by my dean, AD, dept. head, and colleagues to treat my time at conferences as a mix of personal and professional time. I'm also expected to advocate for positions I feel strongly about, and my faculty is even trying to figure out where we should stand as a group on issues of open access. Nobody thinks an official line means we can't have our own professional opinions,... more... - kaijsa
THE MAP!!! I love the map too much. Thank you so much for doing this (even though I won't be there to take advantage of it). - Meg VMeg
I will make a short post tonight to remind people that they can play the home edition of the game and call/email their vendors to ask how they feel about it. - Andy
Yeah, this just seems more fun than calling/emailing. Plus: map. - Meg VMeg
To answer the questions Steven has raised, I think it actually speaks more towards the work culture that has developed over the last couple of decades. It's the idea put forth that basically sounds like "Hey, we expect you to take work home with you, but don't you dare do any personal stuff while you're at the office". In other words, the work life can invade the personal life, but not... more... - Andy
I think the scariest thing about the points that Steven raises in his initial comment is that there is someone out there right now who is ACTUALLY hearing that from their boss. I don't doubt for a minute that there is probably some Grade A Number One Arsehole who is telling their subordinates, "We pay for your trip so we own you while you're there." I hope that in raising his points Steven and the responses that people have given him that those workers have some ammo against such a boss. - Andy
In other thoughts, I think a color coded issues map might be in order for Annual as well. This will be a good dry run for that. :D - Andy
hey, how come the ACRL hasn't issued a statement about SOPA and the Research Works Act yet? - copystar
No plans I'm aware of. We're anarchical here -- go for it. :) - RepoRat
While I link to other people's stuff in my post, I think a post outlining talking points and essential background information would be a healthy companion piece to the color coded map. - Andy
Fair enough John. I accept that critique. I can see how folks would interpret my comment and come to the conclusions they did -which is not quite what i intended. Even ACRL leaders can occasionally make a bad call. I always try to do good things for folks on this list and others and for the profession in general, and that's what I'm going to keep doing - and being mindful about my... more... - steven bell
Steven, I'm glad to know that you meant something different from what I read in the comment. And as for SOPA and RWA, is there any way you could encourage ACRL to take a position on those issues that would complement the work coming out of the Library Copyright Alliance? They are so fundamentally related to college and research libraries that it seems like more powerful voices would be better than fewer. - lris
Penn State just peeled off the onion for the sake of an orchid. :) At this rate you'll have to redraw the map! - RepoRat
I dont think Penn State is on the map. Ithaka, which owns JSTOR and Portico, is. The blog post is easier to update than the map, but I might just leave the map as is so people talk to JSTOR and can thank them for their stance. - Andy
I missed this due to being at CES, where I was representing libraries and drinking beer with Makers. But I was drinking said beer _very professionally_. - Jason Griffey
Also: I told Andy this privately, but: huzzah and awesome work. This is really, really great stuff. Steve, I _really_ want to work on the Instrument of Our Displeasure, but I'm killed right now. Dead with deadlines, and just can't. But I want to help with it in some way, aside from my plan to try and talk with Vendors on video about their thoughts. - Jason Griffey
I'd like to thank everyone for their compliments. It really made my day and that blog post really was supported by the people here on FF. I couldn't have done it without all of you and considering the overwhelming response to it, I am thankful for all the help I received. - Andy
All deserved, Andy - and perhaps if more orgs/publishers disavow this legislation and have booths at MW, they could be congratulated and thanked. Congratulatory flashmobs via Twitter? And we could take all of their publicity material with good grace and make the booth workers feel good? (I say "we though I won't be there.) - barbara fister
"flash"mobs?! - Aaron the Librarian
John Dupuis
I just got an invitation to submit an article to Elsevier's Library Connect on a topic I'm fairly passionate about. Upside: reaching a broad audience on a topic that's important to me. Downside: Evil Empire and all that. Money wasn't mentioned in the email so I'll assume that there's none involved. Thoughts?
That's a tough one. Given the recent news about their support of SOPA (on top of all the other baggage they carry) I might decline if I were you. And to be honest, your blog reaches WAY more people than Library Connect. - Stephen Francoeur
It may not reach as wide an audience, but you can write a guest post for ACRLog on any passionate issue any time you like. Please. :) - barbara fister
i'm with stephen. and if you blog about the decision not to publish in elsevier, that'd be fantastic. - jambina
I endorse Stephen's point of view. Now is not the time to donate labor to Elsevier. - RepoRat
I wrote an article for EC in 2008. Main motivation - was based on article co-written with my supervisor and boss, so promoted their work, plus was a way of getting whuffie from more conservative members of profession (and staff) who did not believe in blogging. At that stage I was running a new tech program with a bit of resistance from a few staff members. I insisted that it be licensed under Creative Commons and they agreed. - Kathryn is a free elf
I'm leaning towards declining but I'm still debating with myself. - John Dupuis
I think LC is so much a vendor pub that it comes across as "promoting the brand" more than advancing the profession. But that's just my opinion. - Elizabeth Brown
Shit. I didn't realize Elsevier supported SOPA. I just accepted an offer to speak at midwinter at their symposium, on their dime :(. Which invitation arose from a piece I did in Library Connect for them, and I suspect not a soul read..... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Thanks for posting this John - it is good food for thought. I'm wondering what's the difference between publishing in Library Connect and any other Elsevier title, such as Journal of Academic Librarianship. Which leads to a much larger and more difficult question: should librarians support of Open Access principles be more strident and become an "open access or nothing" activity? - copystar
On a related note, what do folks think of librarians who publicly disavow activities that support closed access publishing? See for example Maura Smale's open access pledge from last fall: - Stephen Francoeur
i'm all for it - - jambina
Declined, but with the knowledge that it's easier to pass up these sorts of opportunities at my career stage. Also with the unfortunate acknowledgment that many out there will see an article in LC as automatically a more significant professional contribution than 10 years of blogging -- although frankly that's hard to believe, even in my darkest moments. As for Mita's question, I think the answer is yes and individual and institutional pledges are the way to go. - John Dupuis
And on a related note, in my own micro-field of science librarianship, I'm constantly surprised that people bother to submit articles to Science & Technology Libraries when ISTL exists. I mean, I know competition/options is a good thing, but really? Open vs. closed should be a no-brainer. - John Dupuis
As bad as SOPA is this sounds even worse - The Research Works Act. Learn more at - steven bell
"Additionally, it would preempt federal agencies’ planned funding, development and back-office administration of their own electronic repositories for such works, which would duplicate existing copyright-protected systems and unfairly compete with established university, society and commercial publishers." AAP just declared war on us, didn't it? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Research Works Act thread here: - Catherine Pellegrino
academic librarians - does your web team have student representation on it?
I know that the social-media team does (SLIS students, which may be slightly different from what you're envisioning). Not sure about the web team. - RepoRat
I said to hell with a web team. We no longer design by committee; we have project leads and we do a metric ton of usability testing (with students), instead. - Jenica
what are these "students" of which you speak? - DJF
only when I take a class - copystar
Mita wins. - DJF
if only i could jenica. right now, my inherited web team is 12 including me. i'm hoping that will change in the near future - weelibrarian
twelve? holy crap! - DJF
Nope. I just rolled off, but when I chaired we did regular usability with students. Our configuration is more of a working group than a committee, though. - kaijsa
what the whoa. yeah. change that if you can. our campus public affairs webmaster -- who does the campus site -- recently made it clear that she had struggled to work effectively with the libraries under our old web team model, because they couldn't effectively DO anything, particularly in regards to her suggestions. One person (campus PA) working with one or two people (our project leads) who then take the results back (to library staff and students) for feedback works so much more cleanly. - Jenica
Our current web committee is mostly upper mgmt. - Hedgehog
To the extent that we have a "web team," it's me. So: no, no student representation there. - Catherine Pellegrino
Officially? No. However, I/we do talk to students about their likes & dislikes and suggestions for improvements (and then follow up when changes are made) - Aaron the Librarian
No. - maʀtha
We have a small group that helps to lead web development but after we roll out a new site based on a drupal platform we'll probably do less web work as a group and focus more on small incremental change as needed. We don' t have students on this web group (doing web dev by committee is hard enough), but we do have a student advisory board, and we routinely keep them advised of our... more... - steven bell
Web team? What's that? .... - Deborah Fitchett
We actually currently have no-one responsible for web content, afaict, though I'm doing a project over summer to "weed" the site (delete unneeded pages and verbiage) and as part of the process will end up with some recommendations on who should maintain which parts how often. Design is a whole other can of worms tied in with the broader uni. We have done usability testing for various things in the past. - Deborah Fitchett
Portal redesign team of 12, but i would say the core team is maybe 6 people. Usability testing with students of course, plus I ask people i know also of course. - aaron
Rachel Walden
Anybody using a vending machine for USB flash drives in the library?
We have one on order and it arrives this week. We'll be vending all types of office supplies, including flash drives, but also personal items. I hear the most popular vending item at our tech center is no-doze. We are getting the machine through our bookstore. They will keep it stocked and earn the revenue from the sales. Another library that has had one for a while is at the University of Missouri. - steven bell
Great to know, thanks. - Rachel Walden
We have tried to get such a vending machine, but a big fuss for us is the bookstore on campus actually does not want "the competition." (At least, that has been the official line). Deity of choice knows we can likely use one. - Angel R. Rivera
We have vending machine for pens, notecards, etc. Managed by Friends. Rarely used. We used to have floppies in there, but I want to get USB's. We have to find kind with vending-friendly packaging, however. - Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
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