I agree with you Steve - Jason

This is why they opted out of MacWorld. They should hold events when they have products ready, not on a set schedule of a convention. - Rolf Schewe

Since I'm not tracking any of this...lack of cool announcements? Or lack of Steve Jobs mystique? - Hutch Carpenter

Welll.... duh. :-) Nobody expected a big deal, did they? They are moving their big announcements elsewhere. - Louis Gray

Louis, no Mac Mini or Apple TV? Cmon! - Steve Rubel from IM

The sky is falling!!! - Bwana ☠

It's gotten to the point where if Steve Jobs doesn't fly in with a cape and announce the iTime Machine, Apple has FAIL-ed. I am glad they are done with MacWorld. - Rolf Schewe

Every keynote is a disappointment if your expectations are set way too high. This is actually what I expected... I still think we're going to see a speed bump on the mac minis soon - Bwana ☠

Rolf: Nail.On.Head - Matthew DeVries

The iLife announcements got me excited, at least! - Andy DeSoto

@Chris: I agree. The product cycles have to better coincide with the business/consumer buying cycles. MacWorld was like Christmas shopping in January. Made no sense. - Rolf Schewe

I hate to tell you guys, but Apple's innovation run is over for now. Innovator's dillema. - Steve Rubel from IM

it takes time to build great products - it's a bit unfair to expect a bang every 6 months! - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

There's been nothing breakthrough out of Apple since the iPhone debut two years ago. Even the app store is the work of the development community. - Steve Rubel from IM

Cristo, Google is innovating like crazy. And, to be fair, so is HP, Lenovo and Nintendo. (Note HP is a client) - Steve Rubel from IM

@Cristo Look at Gmail Labs or Google Docs. Tons of innovation - Steve Rubel from IM

Who needs mojo when you got one of the slickest marketing shops around. - Alex Scoble

Paint drying keynote. - Ian D. Nock

Even Leopard didn't have the same rate of innovation that Tiger did. Look, I am a huge Apple fan. Ask anyone. But look under the hood beyond RDF and you will see what I mean - Steve Rubel from IM

I would expect to see more frequent updates from Apple, rather than the big two we've historically seen. Especially now, it will be a way for Apple to get more attention on the rest of the management team. - LogEx

Apples (no pun intended) and oranges. You can't compare Google and Apple on these merits. Their only overlap is with Android. I see big things from Snow Leopard with Grand Central and Open CL regarding performance and efficient use of system resources. The keynote is what was expected. Anything else was fantasy. - Rolf Schewe

Christo, I agree - they're not behind. But they are vulnerable. - Steve Rubel from IM

one lame keynote does not a mojo losing company make - Steve Mann from twhirl

Vulnerable to what? Windows 7, which is Vista Plus? Blackberry Storm? Netbooks? I don't want a "cheap" laptop. Zune? iTunes just made a huge power move. Don't see it. I see the opposite. Next year, at non-MacWorld events, we will see a ton of new products. New iPhones, Mac Pros, Next-gen Apple TV, etc., etc. - Rolf Schewe

@Rolfe Vulnerable to missing the big turn. iLife wont be necessary soon. Web apps are the future and Apple is notoriously weak here. Two words: Mobile Me. - Steve Rubel from IM

So iWork.com is a flop? - Bwana ☠

I think MobileMe is vaporware in it's current manifestation. It was DOA. I agree with Google - Rolf Schewe

Bwana, I thought so, yes. Will you stop using Google Docs (assuming you do)? Plus there's no iPhone access - that I saw. They should stick to hw/sw not web apps. - Steve Rubel from IM

Cristo, do you use any web apps? Flickr? Photoshop.com? That's where the innovation is today (Note Adobe is a client) - Steve Rubel from IM

.mac--lame. MobileMe--lame. By association: iWork.com--lame. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

I don't think web apps will reach mass adoption in 2009 and I believe Apple is making the right choices. With that said, I will reserve judgement on iwork.com and the other offerings until I use them. Overall, I think we're overreacting here. - Bwana ☠

Bwana, it's the Internet, are you new here? It's millions of miles of interconnected fiber, copper, silicon, and electrons with the soul use of pornography and over-reacting to things. - Matthew DeVries

I think MobileMe is vaporware in it's current manifestation. It was DOA. I agree on your online apps point. Google is making a lot of headway. Not sure how it will pan out in the long-run. Xbox 360 has made some interesting inroads to the living room while all this is going on. I don't know what the future holds. Tech-centic people like ourselves will not determine the future. Regular people will. - Rolf Schewe

I think iWork.com is on the right track, although I'm not a fan of charging for the service. I still don't have web access on most of my flights or bus rides and still have to pay for it at a good portion of hotels and airports. I want to edit and store on my machine first and foremost. - Greg

I liked what I saw. Improvements to products I use and can afford. What did you expect? No wonder Apple is pulling out of MacWorld. The level of expectation is absurd. - Howard Keziah

I don't like how there isn't an upgrade price option for iWork 09. All the major software has an upgrade price, this should be no different. Granted its not expensive compared to FCP, there should still be some benefit to being a previous customer. - Justin Wah Kan

I'm ok with price structures adjusting to that upgraders pay more while new adopters pay less. One price to rule them all. - Matthew DeVries

Look, I'm typing this on my new Macbook with an iPhone few inches away, but I honestly believe that Anti-Social MobileMe is just a wrong direction, lack of vision if you prefer. I can't see anybody who regularly use modern social media be a user of MobileMe. The only good thing about that service is a Push, but for how long? Better yet, they launched iWork.com which makes even less sense to me (can't edit docs online, but only share them with, if you're lucky, 2-3 people you know who has iWork09). - Dias

I'm not sure why MobileMe gets compared to social media. As far as I can see, social media is about facilitating global conversation. MobileMe does nothing in that area, and is instead about providing convenience for people who have more than one mac. I have two of my own, and have at various times had a third one at my workplace, and it's been very useful in that context. It is quite flawed, but as yet there isn't a real alternative. - Robin Barooah

And as far as innovation is concerned. I think the battery improvements will make a huge difference as they roll them out across the line (once people have got over complaining about them), and will be tricky for competitors to counter. Also, I've tried iWork.com. It works smoothly, and is immediately obvious for a newcomer to understand, unlike google docs. And after that poor launch of MobileMe, I imagine they want to underpromise and overdeliver. - Robin Barooah

Still waiting for MobileUs! - Scott Loftesness

Steve, this meme is right up there with "John McCain just won the election" when he announced Sarah Palin as his running mate. Apple's model of innovation isn't to be the first, it's to evaluate emerging markets and figure out how to best to dominate them. Outside of email, name one area where apps in the cloud outsell desktop apps. Eventually, that may start to change and you can bet Apple will be there with something that changes the game. - Kevin Pedraja

@Kevin I can't be right all the time. That would make me - Obama! - Steve Rubel from IM

Great thread. I expected little from this Macworld, and got a little more than I expected. Overall, I'm satisfied. (Except for the fact that I don't actually *have* the new MacBook Pro on my desk at the moment.) Steve, you say Apple hasn't innovated much in two years, since the iPhone. First off, I disagree -- the App Store was brilliant. But even if you're right, what big innovation did they have between the iPod and iPhone? iPod video maybe. IOW, going 2+ years between major innovations is nothing new. - Mitch Wagner

The thinnest 17-inch laptop and extended battery were good new innovations to me. It would be cool if Apple did actually show the MacBook Wheel!!!! - Alvin

Every time Apple doesn't live up to the completely over-inflated blogosphere expectations, everyone says Apple has lost its mojo. I've been watching Apple lose its mojo for about three years now, by my count. - Jeff Ventura

I liked the MacBook Wheel announcement better. - Nick Humphries

Still, most brands would want even half Apple's mojo! - Joe Buhler

True. Quite disappointed about the lack of Mac Mini news, after all that pre-Keynote noise... - Jordi Soler

@SteveRubel There's one big flaw in your pov: you are in the 10%, maybe 1% of the leading edge on using tech, talking to the rest of the leading 10%. 90% of the world is yet to grasp, buy and use this. In an effort to be way out in front, it is easy to forget Apple is designing for millions, not the futuristic 1% who act like 3g iPhones are from the 1950's. - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

I disagree. If the trend holds for online videos popularity, the iMovie improvements coupled with affordable HD camcorders could be the sleeper hit from this year's keynote. - Brandon Mendelson