Interesting analysis that also breaks down "the top 20 'heaviest' (most subscribed to) FF users." What's notable is that many of these same influencers put Twitter on the map. - Steve Rubel via Bookmarklet
Armano and I must be twins. I am reading the same book and I am up to the same passage. If you haven't picked up The Last Lecture, it's awesome. Go get it. - Steve Rubel
the one thing Twitter has it is that it was first before FF in that space. And that brings name recognition to the "masses" and a large inertia that you have to overcome before you can become a true replacement, no matter what technical advantages you bring to the table. I have 5 times more followers in Twitter than FF, and sadly a mass migration doesn't seem to be happening for these folks. - Daniel Robitaille
couldn't agree more with you about twitters down time being a superficial issue. - Richard
Your post to a given site takes on more life when it hits the pages of friendfeed. It's almost like you weigh where you want to "release" a post first knowing that it will get "picked up" by friendfeed. - todddoubleu
I do not think Twitter will survive as CMS systems that run into message bus systems are the hardest to scale on ruby on rails nd they do not have the money to fight two fronts ruby on rails scalability and new features to stave off competition. - Fred Grott
good link, allen. some additional default choices would be fantastic. read: better discovery mechanisms. having only members of the echo chamber as default choices makes for a duller feed. no offense to present company. ;) - Wolfsbayne
I think all this FF > Twitter discourse is seriously, seriously underestimating the power of Twitter's unparalleled portability. It's 100% usable through SMS and has an iPod-esque ecosystem of third party tools and add-ons that hook into it. These things brought Twitter to its throne, and now you guys aren't even factoring them into the equation because of a little downtime. - David Chartier
i'll post some thoughts on my blog, but one thing that is still annoying is represented in this post... where your friendfeed shows all aggregated iterations of this post here on ff and it just feels silly as i can choose which iteration to leave a comment on. that's an issue. maybe you should turn comments off on the other instances. except that you cannot because its not a feature. also, check out http://friendfeed.com/frendfee... to see some aggregation bugs. - sull
Jason, that's a brilliant "There Will Be Blood" reference. And so true. I'm afraid that Twitter is just a couple of weeks from being bludgeoned with a bowling pin by FF. - Frank Roche
I think the removal of a character limit would hurt twitter more than help it. Twitter was never meant as a conversation platform. I think keeping it small and simple makes it much easier for people to use. One of it's biggest strengths is that it's a short form messaging service, and to take that away would make it something that isn't twitter. - Austin Brown
Jason, I fully agree with what you say here. - Steve Rubel
I love the fact that there is no premium linked with the number of connections you have. In twitter the greater the number of connections, the higher you appear in the "following" list of your follower. That has become a reason of spam, lowering the quality of the twitter network. Plus, FF works. - Marcello Del Bono
I can see how Twitter is useful for people who post via SMS, but while Im at the computer FF is far more useful and also more fun to use - Jeff Hoard via twhirl
I could offer my agreement here on your entry's content, but I'd rather tell you how much I dug the entry's title. - Donna Mugavero
I'll put it this way, i never used twitter because I'm not part of the technorati community, but I do use Friendfeed because it allows me to bring together all my online content and then share it with the people I want. That alone is enough for FF to beat out Twitter for me. - Alfredo Padilla
I think one of the things we have missed carries forward or plays forward a Robert Scoble post, see : http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/... ..let me put it in non tech terms as it pertains to start-ups. FOUNDERS MUST PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT FROM AROUND THEIR PRODUCTS! When I state founders I mean also the ones building the product. - Fred Grott
What it comes down to me is *noise*. FriendFeed is just noisy, what with content from all my social media friends all being dumped into one stream with no organization whatsoever. I look at my FF friends page and I can't make any rhyme or reason to what I'm seeing, even with little favicons to identify which service I'm reading from. Twitter, is clean and organized. - Stephen Lopez
School of ALL CAPS is a little loud... ;-) - Mitchell Tsai
I think Center Networks (Allen) has an interesting analysis. I'll be curious to see if the high profile FF users are as interested in commenting on other people's feeds as having their own words commented upon. Twitter just seems like a more democratic forum to me. Personally, I don't care if it is down a couple hours a week. FF only supplements it, it is not an adequate replacement. And I like to write more than 140 characters! Still Twitter is my first choice. - Liz
PS... Because I use the Flock browser, I get all my social media updates right from the Media Bar and People Sidebar, without ever having to open Twitter, YouTube, Flickr, Facebook, Pownce, Digg, etc... Everything I want is right there at the click of an icon. Flock > FF. - Stephen Lopez
How do you guys decide where to post which content though... what gets tweeted, vs. status updated on facebook, vs. blogged vs. Friendfed directly? Of course, if you tweet, it goes to FF too. - Kim Mahan
@Kim great question. If I want a big audience, I go to Twitter. If I want engagement, I go here. I am also using Six Apart's Blog It app a ton. - Steve Rubel
I posed a similar question to my italian fellows. Re-blogging services like FF, Jaiku, google shared items produce a shower effects of duplicated-triplicated N-multiplied messages. One should post a message at the beginning of the chain reaction and start comments at the end. But: where is one and where is the other one? :) - Federico Giacanelli
having relevance how? differnt tools for different purposes. it would make more sense to me to compare your feedburner number to the ff number than this. - Nicole Simon
96%. But I've largely abandoned Twitter and spend alot more time here. My guess is I pass 100% in the next few weeks as FF is growing faster than Twitter. - Thomas Hawk
It's a vague bookmark/like type action for me as well. BTW, I misuse "Hide" and it's become my "mark as read" button. I try to follow a "FriendFeed Zero" philosophy. :-) I wish that "Like" flagged items would pop back up for me whenever anyone commented on them, even after I've read/hidden them. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I don't think you're misuing "hide". I often use it as a pseudo-"mark as read" too. - Harvey Simmons
Steve , if FF has a feature that permits users to define tags and use them. IT will be very powerful. I am think along the lines of Labels /Tags similar to Gmail .. - Peter Dawson
I use it to say I like it, but sometimes I use it to bookmark something I want to have easy access to later on. - David Cook
Is there a way to see things you've liked as a list? - Bjorn Tipling
Bjorn, you can click on "likes" on the right side of your FF home page and see the list. - Trish Robinson
actually for some reason i never noticed the hide or more buttons. I also use like as an indication that I liked something, or sometimes as a bookmark. Ken when others comment on things I have commented on they do pop back up on my list. or else I am dreaming... - Ruth Ferguson
There's also a greasemonkey script that allows you to mark something as "later". It's really useful, if you don't have time to read something now. You get a later tab to go back and check it out. Plus it adds a "like" to the post as well. - Jason Toney
I use Twitter to show what I think is interesting and it shows up here. yes FF has the following activities: creator, critic, collector, joiner, spectator. - Jeremiah Owyang
I'd just like to point out that you can't see past your last 300 likes. Make sure that that bug doesn't bite you :) - Yuvi
in persian FF we are using the like as a form of "link recommandation". - mhmazidi
I use "FriendFeed Read Later" (greasemonkey script) for that - Sarah Perez
@Sarah I haven't seen that one, linkage? - Aaron Myers
@ Steve Rubel: I did this too and later found another way: First I opened a private room. Now if I want to "save" something, I click on "More" (on the same line with "Like" and "Hide") and "Reshare this entry" to put the content into my private room. I write a small comment with tags. - Yves Oesch
I created my own private room to which I save links, either from inside FriendFeed or from the web at large. Generally links that I want to return to for blogging purposes. - Hutch Carpenter
FailWhaling is outlawed by international treaty. Only the Japanese have an exception...and they have a large Twitter userbase. Coincidence? - Andrew Feinberg
I started using it full time when it hit RC2. It's terrific. Faster than Safari. I limit the extensions I use though to a handful. - Steve Rubel
i have noticed that some links that should cause ff to launch make it hang. i have to kill the process and run FF first, THEN click the link(s) - Eric Ortega via twhirl
Using it since early beta. Hogs memory, still. Crashes when loading Flash sometimes (that's a developer problem). Renders really well. 8/10 with IE 7 scoring 5. - Mo Jawhari
Thanks Rob, Kevin, and Steve, that's enough to sway me forward. downloading now. - Jeremiah Owyang
I've used it exclusively for about a month; testing life solely with a browser / no client apps. Using a ton of extensions. Experiencing a handful of daily crashes on a PC with it. Otherwise, it's fantastic for me. - Kevin C. Tofel
Switched from Safari since release. I use maybe a half-dozen extensions. I find it slower than Safari. Causes my MacBook Air to shutdown the second core occasionally. Never happens with Safari. Still haven't switched back though. - Jack Baty
I'm still waiting. i want all my plugins to be ready to go when i upgrade. I installed one of the late betas and it seemed good -- but having two firefox installs send a couple things (like password manager) a bit screwy - john conroy
OBSERVATIONS: It kept all of my bookmarks, so far so good - Jeremiah Owyang
Observation: The download went smoothly, on this PC I'm using vista. - Jeremiah Owyang
Been using it since the pre-alphas - certainly far less bugs now. :D Thankfully, I haven't gotten too much of the crashing Flash problem. - Cyvros/fyc
I've absolutely loathed Firefox until this new version. Been running it in place of Opera since beta 3, I think, and it's been quite good. No crashes since RC1 for me. (Adding that I'm using it on several Vista machines; 64- and 32-bit.) - Akiva Moskovitz
just using the normal set of plug-ins ff3 is crashing on me 4 or 5 times a day. now i'm trying to figure out which plug-in is craping the ff3 bed. - sean808080 via twhirl
crashes 5-10 x daily and always at the worst times. - LPH
I have no problems with Vista, been very reliable for quite some time. - Jeremiah Owyang
FF3 has problems with the keyboard control using Windows XP - sometimes I cannot enter text, especially in the URL-bar. In both, Windows and Mac OS X the application terminates sometimes without notification in advance. In addition, FF3 sucks a lot of resources out of my old iBook. Safari is much faster here... - Ansgar Wollnik
+ 1 Jeremiah (I am on XP though)... I am loving FF3 - awesome!! - Susan Beebe
There are some issues with crashing that seem to be related to Flash on OSX and I've seen a few others mention it. Hopefully they fix the issue soon, I do love the new improvements. Especially the Mac-likeness. - Daniel Smith
Some of Addons arent working (As expected), youtube is kinda slower - Jassim
I started using FF3 when it was in Beta. Public version is more stable IMHO. I like the overall experience of FF3. The one issue I have had in Mac OSX is that sometimes when you paste a URL in the address bar, it won't refresh and go to the site. Just sits there and does nothing. All of my favorite plugins and add ons are up and running now, which is good. - Grant Griffiths via twhirl
Only a few crashes, which is almost a tradition with Firefox. Surprisingly, Opera is now more stable in Ubuntu. It used to be the other way around. - Alejandro S.
using the portable versions and can't get links from thunderbird open in new tab. always open in new window. anybody know the solution? - Matthias Henze
Only other issue is the lack of a way to combine open FF windows into one like you can with Safari. - Grant Griffiths via twhirl
Yes - About a week after launch. It crashes too often. But I still love it. - Russellreno
Yes I have. I've been using Firefox 3 since its RC days. Bugs? Where? I haven't had any problems. - Corvida
I've used it since the first BETA, so I've used the buggy versions. This version has not crashed on my since the first day. It's far superior, far better on the memory, and less likely to crash. - Ben Parr
Downloaded on the day of the launch on my mac; a couple of days later on office PC. Safari still remains my primary browser on Mac; Firefox was always the choice on Windows despite the crashes which are pretty much consistent even after the upgrade. - Parth Awasthi
yea i got problems with gmail too. Also once in a while the url bar doesn't work - Josiah Lau via twhirl
It crashes more for me than FF2 does. Might be new extensions, though. - Sarah Perez
@Sarah yeah any issues I've had are with the extensions. FF3 is running sweet and fast - Shey
I'm getting a little mixed results. I've been a long time corporate IE user, and FF3 has some nice features. It looks like some of my early "stops" are repaired and the browser does seem faster in most situations. - ChangeForge via twhirl
Tried it out. Crashed for me quite a bit even after removing extensions 1 by 1. Back to the latest 2.x.x for now. I have been using Firefox since v.0.7 - OpenAllNight
Please god can we stop the endless "Friendfeed versus Twitter/Google Reader/blog comments/everything else" discussions? FF is a different kind of tool. It is not a versus thing. - Ian Betteridge
When the next FriendFeed comes, we'll be comparing with the current FriendFeed :) - Muthu Ramadoss
"Tech junkies looking to pinch pennies in today's economy can scour the Web for a bounty of free software — for word-processing and photo-editing, online storage and more." (Note: Adobe is an Edelman client) - Steve Rubel via Bookmarklet
I stand corrected. Steve, your right. Safari does NOT sync History. - Shane Robinson via twhirl
I use LaterLoop. I added the LaterLoop bookmarklet to Safari. When you sync the iPhone that bookmarklet still works for your LaterLoop account. When following gReader links to source sites, I LaterLoop them for easier reading on my desktop or even offline on my MBAir via FF and Gears. - Shane Robinson via twhirl
I use opera mini on my W610i in sync with my opera account. Shame i cant use the bookmarklet, sometimes i wonder why there is so much hype about this 3G Iphone,when most other phone at least in europe are all 3G,i'll wait for some cute android phone to move somewhere else ;-) - Ben Borges via fftogo
I use opera mini on my W610i in sync with my opera account. Shame i cant use the bookmarklet, sometimes i wonder why there is so much hype about this 3G Iphone,when most other phone at least in europe are all 3G,i'll wait for some cute android phone to move somewhere else ;-) - Ben Borges via fftogo
@SteveRubel, can you share the link? I can't find one that works... - David Weiner
One of the best things about using Safari. Everything syncs across multiples Macs & iPhone. - Tom Wentworth
Thanks, Steve. Try searching for it and see how much junk pops up! - David Weiner
Steve, is your iPhone jailbroken? If not, I failed the bookmarklet on the iPhone IQ test. How do I drag it to the iPhone safari browser's toolbar? And once I pass that test, how do I highlight text to share? - Robert Seidman
I can't get it to work on the iphone yet ... trying to do it manually. - David Weiner
Hopefully one day Mozilla will make this possible with Weave. - Aaron Myers
Add it to the non-iPhone Safari (my pc version) then sync. The toolbar shortcuts show up in a bookmark folder - mcwflint
@Robert @David My iPhone is not jailbroken, I bookmarked it first on my Mac then sync'ed it to my iPhone. Can't select text to include however images work fine. - Steve Rubel
Steve, do you use Google History? If you are logged into Google on both iphone safari and your desktop (or any browser), it tracks both. - Rex Hammock
That makes sense ... trying it now ... I was baffled for a second... - David Weiner
Testing that functionality now on my BB curve with Opera Mini 4.1 and the full browser - Christian Anderson
Thanks for the tips, but alas they did not work. My primary desktop is windows. I only use the bookmarklet via Firefox, but iTunes will only let me sync with IE and not Firefox. I added the bookmarklet to IE and synced and it shows up in my bookmarks on the iPhone but when I select it nothing happens. I downloaded Safari and installed the bookmarklet for it, and iTunes does let me synch Safari and it too shows up in the iPhone’s bookmarks, but nothing happens when I select it. One more reason to go Mac I suppose! - Robert Seidman
I can't get into Evernote. Reason - my life is centralized with Google. - Steve Rubel
selective photographic memory. Strangely, I can never find my keys - Robert Seidman
OneNote at work and when I'm in Vista. - Pete Gilbert
I put pretty much everything into Yojimbo for storage and retrieval and use OmniFocus for GTD. - Shane Robinson via twhirl
textedit on the mac. KISS (keep it simple stupid) and link to things on web - Noah David Simon
Evernote is really awesome for its ability to read words in photos. But my digital life over the past few years is already in Yojimbo. Trying to integrate Evernote slowly. - Shane Robinson via twhirl
I mainly use Google Docs for my notes, which is extremely handy. - possible248
Switched to Evernote for note-taking on my mac last year and never looked back. It's really an incredible app. Would love to see them take the image-recognition capability to the next level though and actually add the ability to output text from images AS text. (Right now you can only search terms that appear in business card snaps etc.) - Daniel Smith via twhirl
Textpad, simple text files, and dtSearch or Examine32 to instantly find and retrieve old notes. - Sean McBride
Seriously, pads of graph paper then xfer to OneNote if it's critical - Cheryl Allin
I use evernote as well. I like how I can sync with my phone. - Devin Anderson via fftogo
I use Notepad or good old pen and paper. I like writing things down. I have a work journal of sorts - putting pen to paper helps me commit items to memory. Just checked out evernote though, gonna try that one... - Sonciary Honnoll
Tinderbox for general note taking. MindManager for brainstorming and meeting notes. Evernote for collecting things from other sources. - Jack Baty
I used tiddlywiki for a while - in the process of switching to Evernote. - David Worrell
Maybe he's spending more time on FF and other social apps then blogging? Making videos? Spending time with family? Just a couple guesses. - Larry Kless via twhirl
The enormously famous and powerful don't blog. What percent of Davos alumni blog? It's not how they manage their reputations and celebrity. - Phil Wolff via Alert Thingy
that means FastCompany.tv became one of permanent sponsors - open your eyes - silpol
Louis - on an unrelated note, I am looking forward to see your athleticsnation.com rank on ballbug's leaderboard. - Atul Arora
It means I haven't been playing the game lately. I've been doing crappy blogging and spending almost all of my extra time on FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
It also is interesting that we went to Washington DC, got some remarkable interviews, none of which have been on Techmeme yet. But here on FriendFeed they got lots of praise and discussion going. I could get on Techmeme, though, by writing something idiotic with some sensationalist headline that would get lots of bloggers to link to it. - Robert Scoble
I ONLY bring this up because Robert mentioned DC...but yeah...I mean hell, you could have sat down and done an entire interview - bringing your community's questions to people really in charge in DC from reps to senators to oh, heck, I don't know... Presidential candidates...and I bet ya techmeme wouldn't notice. Of course they'd be ALL OVER 'written' responses to other blogs. But some big old video exclusive...yeah, they would ignore that. ....lol. - Erin Kotecki Vest
Can't make the big bucks on Friendfeed, Robert, as much I like your activity on here. Don't want to see you relegated to some job that will keep you away from all this madness - Bjorn Tipling
Bjorn: you might be surprised. Companies want to get close to early adopters. Companies are sponsoring our shows not because we have large audiences but because we have early adopters and influencers. Of course FastCompany.tv is advertising on Techmeme, but mostly that's just me rewarding Gabe for adding a lot of value to my life over past few years. - Robert Scoble
"I could get on Techmeme, though, by writing something idiotic with some sensationalist headline that would get lots of bloggers to link to it." Scoble, you've hit the nail on the head. Life's too short for that. - Duncan Riley
That makes you a better man, mr Riley - Bjorn Tipling
I'm not really getting Roberts comments (and Duncan's either). Are you saying that it's not the Techmeme isn't linking to you, it's that you don't care about Techmeme? That before, you were creating content to specifically self-promote via that channel, but now you are getting paid for media that is based on early adopters and influencers and your personal brand marketing strategies have changed? Just wondering. - leigh himel
Leigh: the #1 way to get onto TechMeme is to talk about what's already on TechMeme. Note that my "waiting in line for iPhone is glorious" article is already at the top of TechMeme. How did that happen? I saw a headline on Techmeme, and wrote about it, but added something new. Those get onto Techmeme a LOT easier than some original thought that brings more value. So, if I stop reading Techmeme, or caring about it, yes, that TOTALLY makes it less likely I'll get onto it. - Robert Scoble
Being linked to a meme headline doesn't count in the leader board standings. So sure it would get you onto Techmeme but wouldn't affect your top 100 position. - leigh himel
Extremely interesting conversations going on here. If I had to choose between being entertained or growing/learning - I'd definitely pick the latter. - Sonciary Honnoll
I might add it's fun if you can accomplish both at the same time. :) - Sonciary Honnoll
Hmm.. Sounds like it's going to attract all the problems that domain names have. Except you can't edit the redirect.. Hope it doesn't bring about loads of unused/unusable redirects. - Chris Chua
If you're looking for persistent redirects, you should go to purl.org -- much better for long-term assurance and maintenance - Edd Dumbill via twhirl
i got a dollar bet that jeremiah makes this into a social media post :) - Allen Stern
I got a dollar bet that your response makes Techmeme and mine doesn't. :-) - Louis Gray
It's all Matthew - he's the social media king! I am so glad I won the bidding war over that other tech blog for his services and locked him into a 30 yr contract. - Allen Stern
I tried to be cute and twitter a link to your post via: tinyurl/a-louis-gray-post but twitter truncated the url so my tweet one-liner got stepped on. - Rex Hammock
snipurl had it for ages, and is shorter with snurl.com, so what's the big deal? - Niv
This will be a photograph in the top 10 of many future lists. - Andrew Baron
Explanation: "In January 2007, people from Perth, Australia gathered on a local beach to watch a sky light up with delights near and far. Nearby, fireworks exploded as part of Australia Day celebrations. On the far right, lightning from a thunderstorm flashed in the distance. Near the image center, though, seen through clouds, was the most unusual sight of all: Comet McNaught. The photogenic comet was so bright that it even remained visible though the din of Earthly flashes. Comet McNaught has now returned to the outer Solar System and is now only visible with a large telescope. The above image is actually a three photograph panorama digitally processed to reduce red reflections from the exploding firework." - Andrew Baron
Wow, 153 people 'liked this" so far and almost 30 comments. - Andrew Baron
Absolutely incredible shot! Then again some of the best shots on the web come from NASA, National Geographic, Discovery and, of course, Hawk :) - Charlie Anzman
Not to be too cynical but that shot seems to good to be true -- I wonder if there is more processing going on than the text seems to admit. - Brian Sullivan
I'm going to side with Brian here. What is right: Comet McNaught was that bright in WA (I use to live there), but I checked my attempted pics, they predate this by over a week. I'm sure the comet was only that bright for less than a week. Second, the main Australia Day fireworks occur in Perth City...which isn't near a beach . Maybe it's Leighton Beach with Fremantle to the left...but it doesn't seem right. I did check the weather records though, there was a storm that night, and it's in the right direction - Duncan Riley
I do hope it is real though...and I forgot how wonderful the environment there is - Duncan Riley
Duncan, last year both Fremantle and I believe Hillarys held their own fireworks for Australia Day. I myself was trying to guess the location this morning. Being a regular on Leighton beach though it doesn't look familiar so I was thinking it may have been taken to the north of Hillarys. It also made me very nostalgic for Perth :) - Penny
Evernote is nice but the OCR features needs work plus I'm not impressed with the plans. Once I found out about Together from http://reinventedsoftware.com/... I haven't used Evernote since. It has potential but it has a way to go. - Chris
