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Orli Yakuel posted a message on Twitter
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MG Siegler posted an entry on VentureBeat
14 hours ago - Link
Twitter appears to be making progress in slaying its white whale - MG Siegler
I'm not really feelin' the imagery invoked by this title... - Rahsheen Porter
Waiting for countless Moby Dick references. Go. - Shawn Farner
@rahsheen - agreed. switched it to "Twitter draws closer to harpooning the Fail Whale" - MG Siegler
i've definitely enjoyed the increased uptime. but they shouldn't even announce progress until we can reliably go back say ten pages into older tweets. I'm also frustrated by the never ending error messages from my twitter clients (twhirl on my pc and twitterific on my mac) saying i've exceeded 70 requests per hour. nevertheless, i am a bit excited that constant downtime may be a thing of the past. - mike
@mike - yeah i thought it was a bit early to trumpet a success at first too (mission: accomplished anyone?) but then again those are some pretty solid numbers and twitter did kick ass yesterday with its 30 minute maintenance in a two hour window. - MG Siegler
All they need to do is move their offices to Nantucket. - Jonathan Beckett
Great title! Twitter does need to stop blowing so badly. - wrecks
Does this improvement correlate to the addition of Pivotal Labs to the Twitter team? - AJ Kohn
Tell me that headline is suppose to be ironic:-) What happens when you fill the blowhole on a whale?...think about it - Duncan Riley
It'll drown?! - Susan Beebe
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edythe posted an item on Tumblr
11 hours ago - Link
there are quite a few things left out, though. - edythe
still cool :) I like opening all the complex pipes (tubes) to see how they were put together. - Brandon
:) - edythe
Need a 'read it later when there's time' button for stuff like this. - sergiooooooo
Sergio: http://www.instapaper.com/ with bookmarklet is my "read later" tool of choice. - David Worrell
Cheers, I'll check it out later when there's time. :) - sergiooooooo
David, thx for the instapaper.com link! - Ayşe E.
yes, thanks, david w. i will check that out as well. - edythe
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Robert Seidman posted a link
Matt Harding’s Peripatetic Dance Videos Earn Him Internet Fame - NYTimes.com
7 hours ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
"There are no weekend box office charts for online videos. But if there were, near or at the very top of the list right now might well be a four-and-a-half-minute video called “Dancing,” which more than four million people have viewed on YouTube, and perhaps another million on other sites, in the just over two weeks since it appeared. It’s the online equivalent of a platinum hit, seeping from one computer to the next like a virus." - Robert Seidman via Bookmarklet
This actually made me tear up when I saw it. Some whimsy is just plain lovely. Maybe this species isn't doomed. - Ayşe E.
I love this video. What I can't believe, though, is that the NYT used "peripatetic" in a headline. - Chris Baskind
Chris, I didn't see the print version of the paper today so I'm not sure if that's the print headline or not. The headline on the web version of the article is actually:" A Private Dance? Four Million Web Fans Say No" but the page title/SEO headline is the one above. - Robert Seidman
My feel good video of the week. - Russellreno
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MG Siegler posted a message on Twitter
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michael arrington posted an entry on TechCrunch
Monday at 9:23 pm - Link
more likely testing launch of App store before the big day, they always do this before something big, but hey it's Tuesday on the East Coast, so you never know. - Wayne Sutton
weird though, they normally don't take it down this early for a tuesday new product launch... - MG Siegler
my money is on the app store. minor upgrades if any on the macbooks - Joseph Skerbec via twhirl
I'm hoping for the redesigned Macbooks (crosses fingers). - Howard Saavedra
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Duncan Riley posted a link
Spammers have upgraded to HTML email. Pretty :-)
Monday at 5:55 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
As a general rule, ALL HTML email is spam, even if it isn't coming from spammers. - Brad Collins via twhirl
And before HTML email spam we had Rich Text email which was just as bad. - Brad Collins via twhirl
for me, they started attaching PDFs now!! - Hassan Ibraheem
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Leo Laporte posted a message on Twitter
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Loic Le Meur posted a message on Twitter
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Loic Le Meur posted a message on Twitter
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Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter
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Paul Stamatiou posted a message on Twitter
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Jason Calacanis posted a link
Sunday at 11:37 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
yep jason - here's most likely how you got so many so quickly - http://www.centernetworks.com/... - Allen Stern
the one thing Twitter has it is that it was first before FF in that space. And that brings name recognition to the "masses" and a large inertia that you have to overcome before you can become a true replacement, no matter what technical advantages you bring to the table. I have 5 times more followers in Twitter than FF, and sadly a mass migration doesn't seem to be happening for these folks. - Daniel Robitaille
Your post to a given site takes on more life when it hits the pages of friendfeed. It's almost like you weigh where you want to "release" a post first knowing that it will get "picked up" by friendfeed. - todddoubleu
I do not think Twitter will survive as CMS systems that run into message bus systems are the hardest to scale on ruby on rails nd they do not have the money to fight two fronts ruby on rails scalability and new features to stave off competition. - Fred Grott
good link, allen. some additional default choices would be fantastic. read: better discovery mechanisms. having only members of the echo chamber as default choices makes for a duller feed. no offense to present company. ;) - Wolfsbayne
I think all this FF > Twitter discourse is seriously, seriously underestimating the power of Twitter's unparalleled portability. It's 100% usable through SMS and has an iPod-esque ecosystem of third party tools and add-ons that hook into it. These things brought Twitter to its throne, and now you guys aren't even factoring them into the equation because of a little downtime. - David Chartier
i'll post some thoughts on my blog, but one thing that is still annoying is represented in this post... where your friendfeed shows all aggregated iterations of this post here on ff and it just feels silly as i can choose which iteration to leave a comment on. that's an issue. maybe you should turn comments off on the other instances. except that you cannot because its not a feature. also, check out http://friendfeed.com/frendfee... to see some aggregation bugs. - sull
Jason, that's a brilliant "There Will Be Blood" reference. And so true. I'm afraid that Twitter is just a couple of weeks from being bludgeoned with a bowling pin by FF. - Frank Roche
I think the removal of a character limit would hurt twitter more than help it. Twitter was never meant as a conversation platform. I think keeping it small and simple makes it much easier for people to use. One of it's biggest strengths is that it's a short form messaging service, and to take that away would make it something that isn't twitter. - Austin Brown
Jason, I fully agree with what you say here. - Steve Rubel
I love the fact that there is no premium linked with the number of connections you have. In twitter the greater the number of connections, the higher you appear in the "following" list of your follower. That has become a reason of spam, lowering the quality of the twitter network. Plus, FF works. - Marcello Del Bono
I can see how Twitter is useful for people who post via SMS, but while Im at the computer FF is far more useful and also more fun to use - Jeff Hoard via twhirl
I could offer my agreement here on your entry's content, but I'd rather tell you how much I dug the entry's title. - Donna Mugavero
I'll put it this way, i never used twitter because I'm not part of the technorati community, but I do use Friendfeed because it allows me to bring together all my online content and then share it with the people I want. That alone is enough for FF to beat out Twitter for me. - Alfredo Padilla
I think one of the things we have missed carries forward or plays forward a Robert Scoble post, see : http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/... ..let me put it in non tech terms as it pertains to start-ups. FOUNDERS MUST PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT FROM AROUND THEIR PRODUCTS! When I state founders I mean also the ones building the product. - Fred Grott
What it comes down to me is *noise*. FriendFeed is just noisy, what with content from all my social media friends all being dumped into one stream with no organization whatsoever. I look at my FF friends page and I can't make any rhyme or reason to what I'm seeing, even with little favicons to identify which service I'm reading from. Twitter, is clean and organized. - Stephen Lopez
School of ALL CAPS is a little loud... ;-) - Mitchell Tsai
I think Center Networks (Allen) has an interesting analysis. I'll be curious to see if the high profile FF users are as interested in commenting on other people's feeds as having their own words commented upon. Twitter just seems like a more democratic forum to me. Personally, I don't care if it is down a couple hours a week. FF only supplements it, it is not an adequate replacement. And I like to write more than 140 characters! Still Twitter is my first choice. - Liz
PS... Because I use the Flock browser, I get all my social media updates right from the Media Bar and People Sidebar, without ever having to open Twitter, YouTube, Flickr, Facebook, Pownce, Digg, etc... Everything I want is right there at the click of an icon. Flock > FF. - Stephen Lopez
I wouldn't underestimate twitter's connection through sms. It makes it the first legit mobile social network, and that is significant for mass adoption and use. Most people don't have internet on their phone to use a web app (iPhone Facebook, Tumblr, etc.) or internet (twitpic, friendfeed, etc.) to send email to update or submit to services. But they are very likely to have sms service, and are used to using it. - Tony
Liz I comment on tons of feeds. - Robert Scoble
Robert, but you seem to be the exception rather than the rule. - Robert Seidman
Jason, good post. I made some comments regarding your five questions here http://seriousaboutcamo.typepa... - Clay Newton
my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard - Tyler
I agree to what you say but besides Twitter reliability, its major flaw is really the reply (or conversation) system which is close to be useless. I guess FriendFeed gained a lot of people (at least myself) because of its efficient conversation system. - fbrunel
Jason, I agree with you a lot of the time but not in this case. I think it would be suicide for Twitter to get into a features arms race with FriendFeed. They would lose that battle. Twitter needs to focus on keeping it simple, getting stable, and becoming a short messaging infrastructure - not a destination. - Mike Doeff
Mike, I think you're right on. Twitter would do better to solidify its differentiation. - Clay Newton
Agreed. I have flip flopped a couple of times on which service I prefer, but FriendFeed is clearly in the lead. If they launch a great iPhone app next Friday it could be thing that pushes them over the hump. - Scott Watermasysk
Scott: FriendFeed already has a great iPhone app. http://www.friendfeed.com/ipho... - Robert Scoble
FF's iPhone web app is fun and all, but a native app could offer a lot more functionality without having to wait for page loads and other clunkiness. I'm hoping for a native app too. - David Chartier
Twitter has become a victim of the success it created for itself. As Twitter gained popularity it naturally creates a market for competition. Its poor performance allowed FF to grow. Many of Twitters power users have begun to migrate communication, and followers to FF wanted to see what it is all about. Twitter has lost its first movers advantage. I would not have been able to even make this post on Twitter. FF invites conversation and dialogue. Sorry Bezos, you may have made the wrong investment. - Fred Neil
I would love it if FF came out with a native iPhone app that took advantage of push notifications by alerting me based on certain criteria. - Granteezy
Agree. Twitter just isn't built for the type of robust sharing and conversations that make FF really interesting. Twitter is like shouting into a canyon, FF is like being at a noisy bar. Sorry, but too many Tweets are just status updates: You're going to Subway for lunch, whoopee! FF gets a lot better when you hide non-commented on Tweets. As for FF enhancements, I'd like a merge function so the same content from various people/feeds are collapsed into one master. That way I can see all comment streams. - AJ Kohn
I agree. Great post. - jonn
Keep in mind that twitter was not initially made for replies, the whole @ sign reply came from users wanting a way to reply and Twitter then started to support the method - Ray Slakinski via twhirl
Nice way to put it! - ChaCha Fance
Looks like Twitter has lost the first mover advantage, and now FF has the first mover advantage with its features. Though since Twitter was the first mover in the beginning it still has a bunch of people who are on it and not on other sites and also has a familiar interface and more third party applications that are compatible with it than Twitter does. Favorite thing so far about FF is the new Seesmic feature to reply to a seesmic post from within FF, really killer. - Andrew Fielding
I'm still one of the few that want's Jaiku to get back in the game! Google is dropping the ball there!!! - tomit
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Thomas Hawk posted a link
An Interview with Photographer Thomas Hawk | Photograview
Sunday at 11:36 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Photograview did an interview with me about my photography. - Thomas Hawk via Bookmarklet
A good "Who is Thomas Hawk" primer - Brian Sullivan
"At this point in my life I don’t need to make money with my photography" , I wish I was loaded with $$$ so I can pursue my hobby fulltime :)- - Peter Dawson
Haha, Peter, I'm far from "loaded," but photography certainly couldn't pay for the mortgage and four kids that I'm supporting right now. If I could quit my day job and focus on photography full time I'd do it in a heartbeat. It's going to be many years before that happens though. - Thomas Hawk
that self portrait pic is one of my favorites - every time I see it I am impressed by the depth and complexity represented by such a simple picture - been meaning to tell you that for a while. - Marco
Bill Wadman is an amazing portrait photographer. One of the best. That photo he took of me is my favorite of all of the photos I've ever seen of myself. I love how he juxtaposed my camera and the security camera. His 365 project is definitely worth checking out. http://www.365portraits.com/in... - Thomas Hawk
good gosh he is talented - those pics are amazing - Marco
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Jeff Jarvis posted a message on Twitter
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Leo Laporte posted a message on Twitter
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Akiva Moskovitz posted a message
Friday at 8:37 am - Link
I keep secretly wishing I hit some sort of usage limit so I have to walk away. Damn you Friendfeed and your scalability! - Mark Trapp
It's a lot harder for me to walk away from FriendFeed than Twitter. - Michelle Martinez
I refresh often too - Judy Jones
F5 = crack - Hutch Carpenter
Welcome to da club? - Yuvi
I find FF more interesting as well. - Globecode
I resent the implication that ever-refreshing FriendFeed is not constructive! - Marco
lol@Hutch Indeed - Shey
It's gotten so bad that I have to regulate myself. I use a plug-in for FireFox called Leechblock that you can use to limit your time during the work day.: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-... - Dan Kaplan
huh? F5 just blips my Mac's little sound level at me. - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas F5 = Command + R on a PC. Refresh. - Parth Awasthi
Yes, FF is the new internet addiction. F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5... - Tad Donaghe
The only way to solve this problem is for you people to post quicker ;) - Earl E Morningwood
Use LeechBlock, limit yourself to 5 minutes an hour, you won't be sorry. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-... - Jason Wehmhoener
@Jason you essentially just told Amy Winehouse she should check herself into rehab - how likely do you think we are to match your show of discipline? lol ; ) - Marco
At some point we just need FF to auto-refresh every second and include a pause button so we can stop the action to read stuff that catches our eyes. That would be pretty freaky, huh? - Tad Donaghe
it has been eating into my reading and sleeping time - RAPatton
What? Reading Friendfeed isn't constructive or creative? - Tom Landini
like right now, for example - Sarah Perez
Sometimes I interrupt what I'm doing (re-reading the manual for Twilight Struggle) just to check for new FriendFeed action. Totally addicted. - Akiva Moskovitz
I do that too. But now we're going to see the Incredible Hulk. - Robert Scoble
F5=Crack. Crack is Whack. Flickr = Crack. FF is the new Flickr. - Russellreno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O... It helps if you don't notice the walls of the maze aren't very high and there are these people looking down on you. - Karim
RusselReno, I had to double-check to make sure that you weren't Steve Gillmor - Todd McKinney
@Todd rofl - Michael W. May via twhirl
+1 rofl for Todd. And good one Russell. - Hutch Carpenter
and sometimes you just can't help a 'likey' even thought you didn't click ... right? :) - Charlie Anzman
a bigger screen real estate could mitigate this problem - Ramesh Ramloll via twhirl
Yeah it's addictive :) - JegerPhil - Phil via NoiseRiver
Wait that's not normal??? - Mona N
FrF cries for TTS ;) - silpol
time consumption is simply the manual behavior. Get an auto refresher and save a micro second. ;) then again, if you want to remain aware, you have to read everything! - thecolor
use twhirl and updates come automatically to your desktop... no need of refresh, layout is awesome (discussions, etc) - Gustavo Munoz via twhirl
If we could get paid for using FriendFeed, wouldn't we all have our own private islands? - possible248
More like one palm tree, a couple of rocks, and a sewage outflow. - Akiva Moskovitz
FriendFeed Addiction:) - Igor Poltavskiy
Nice discovery - saee:Dsharif
F5 FTW! - Susan Beebe
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Loic Le Meur posted a message on Twitter
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michael arrington posted an entry on TechCrunch
Saturday at 9:51 pm - Link
We must save The Twitter. - Ed Shaz/NextInstinct
Honestly, what does Twitter offer me that Friendfeed doesn't already take care of? The benefit of twitter was the ability to have mass conversations and those are near impossible. FF is so much easier to track. - tsudohnimh
I'll tell you a BIG difference: friendfeed seems to take itself very seriously. This can help facilitate a certain type of conversation, which has its place. I feel like twitter gives me space to say whatever I want, without it falling flat. - rambn
i don't see why it's one or the other. they both work in different ways and have a different reach. twitter can perhaps work to enhance friendfeed. it doesn't work so much the other way around, as friendfeed just offers more flexibility not to mention the ability to write more than a limited amount of words like i'm doing now. - Cee Bee
Cee Bee, I'm guessing if you play a lot of zero-sum games, you tend to see the world as one "x vs. y" after another... - Karim
I agree that the Twitter dudes are too lax at sensing user dissatisfaction. The relaxed California attitude, (Twittering about soy lattes after being down all week), is foolish. And the arrogance of listening to their $15,000,000 VC friends telling them 'don't worry about current defections, there will be a crowd there when you get there', is equally foolish. It was the excellent attitude of the original shop 2 years ago, that got them here. - Ed Shaz/NextInstinct
Man let this whole FriendFeed vs. Twitter thing go! They don't even compete in the same space. FriendFeed has a completely different objective. FriendFeed benefits from Twitters or other services. I can't believe you are even comparing the 2. I'm getting tired of all these Twitter vs. FriendFeed comparisons. The more people who join Twitter, FriendFeed doesn't care, in fact it benefits. FriendFeed is like those multi-service instant messaging clients. - Michael Narciso
rambn: Twitter gives you the space to say whatever you want without anyone listening. :-) It's no place to have a conversation. Half life of conversations on Twitter are about four minutes. On FriendFeed? A conversation can go on for hours. - Robert Scoble
BUT!!! One of the real ills of society, indeed the latest generations, is the lack of staying power and loyalty. A shallow, superficial, impatient human