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OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE (UPDATE: It's a Dobson Fly - http://bacn.me/7dw - Credit to Christian for finding (http://friendfeed.com/simplyx))
Joe Silence, Chris, Taskerrific Guy, Ben Hanten and 76 other people liked this
HIDE HIDE HIDE no
- Yolanda
ALSO HIDING.
- Trish R
That's a cool-looking insect.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
What is it?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Cover it with chocolate.
- Kevin Pedraja
wicked
- Josh Haley
wth is that?
- docrivs
WTF!?
- l0ckergn0me
how did it get in your house
- Alfredo
It didn't! I have no idea what it was, a friend sent me the pic and I was so horrified I had to force everyone else to see it. I would flee and scream like a little girl if I saw this in my house
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
are those....*fangs* at the front? Cool looking as long as it's not anywhere near me.
- WorldofHiglet
beautiful!!!...is it real?
- Ümit Orhan
Does anyone know what it is?
- Steve Council
Ahhhhhhh!
- Kelly W.
"Cover it with chocolate" LOL :)
- Alejandro
Dear Jesus! WTH is it??
- Ayşe E.
GAHHHHHHHHH!
- holly
That's the beast that ate the dingo that ate the baby.
- Steve C
Yes! Fire! Burn the whole HOUSE down to sanitize it!
- Ladybug Heather
What the HELL is that?! And why is someone holding it in their HAND?! *runs*
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Saute in butter with touch of garlic? Do not waste cilantro on this meal.
- Janet
On your hand? Are you crazy??????? Ack!!!!!
- Sharon Tappan
Not my hand, see above comments
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
What the hell is that?!
- Shevonne
My whole body is shuddering. Ugh! Please say your friend lives in some other country.
- Trish Haley
She just sent me the picture, no idea where it came from. I doubt she'd touch it either. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
That is just awesome. I want one.
- Christian (Simply X)
You can keep it outside. In a hermetically sealed chamber. With tinted windows. DO NOT WANT IN THIS HOUSE.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I just found my Xmas present for Anika...She will love this for her bug collection... hehehe
- Bill Heslin
This is a Dobsonfly http://bacn.me/7dw It's a male and cannot actually bite. Females can however. They are native to all 50 states. Even California where like everything else, bugs are illegal.
- Christian (Simply X)
Holllllllly crap.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Mom?
- Mistletoe Glen
and now... UP! :D
- Andrea (Notorious)
Very interesting...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- imabonehead
"They are not poisonous, but possess an irritating, foul-smelling anal spray as a last-ditch defense"... it even FARTS... I love it! :D
- Andrea (Notorious)
Lovely..
- Bill Heslin
lol awe some
- Kamilah Gill
Yikes... what's that?
- BeeLing
Awesome
- Mo Kargas
rolfmao @ Glen
- Janet
Tell me what country that is from and I'll put that on my do-not-visit list ;-) (oh, nuts... it's here in the US???? - help me!)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
O to the MY to the GOD
- BEX
I am *so* gonna try to find one of these somewhere and pose with it. I think I saw one of these on one of the screen doors at my parents' house once. I admit that it made even my bug-loving heart jump a little. I at least knew in advance that such things existed.
- Kamilah Gill
that looks like something right out of the Australian outback...yikes!
- Susan Beebe
Great comments, still laughing.
- Daniel Krech
He's kinda cute. Dapper...for a bug.
- Jess
cool, like stag beetle+longhorn beetle
- Lu Tao
And the looks like be here: http://208.106.191.145/_media...
- Micah Wittman
LOL Micah
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
\OvO/
- Micah Wittman
What should we name him? With that handlebar mustache, I think he looks like a Thurman.
- Dawn
Or maybe he could be the mascot for the Palm Pre.
- Dawn
I think this is the bug that causes Twitter to go down often.
- imabonehead
ACK!!! Stomp! Stomp! Stomp! Stomp!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
AJ, a whole Riverdance worth of stomping would probably barely scratch that thing...
- Kamilah Gill
And just when I felt safe to leave my house again!
- Carlton Hackett
Not on my 260lbs built Kamilah ;-)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
That is sooo cool!
- Ken Morley
what the fuck is that?
- tim kerrick
I agree with Ken - that IS so cool
- martha
Actually spurted tea through my nose... thx Sean! LOL!
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
We laugh, but that there bug there gets great quality over the air HD tv.
- Micah Wittman
Boll weevil?
- .LAG liked that
@LAG Boll weevil why dont you get right out of your home? /Presidents
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Christian got it right earlier, it's a Dobsonfly: http://bacn.me/7dw
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Good god!
- Jason Hill
What the hell is that???
- Loren Morris
Updated the title since most people won't want to read the 70 comments to find the answer. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
@Haggis ....LOLz! hell, no, I wasn't going to wade through 70+ comments to find the answer. my "Boll Weevil" ploy worked! i got the answer in just 2 comments! now THAT is real-time search.
- .LAG liked that
Found more detailed info here http://www.answers.com/topic... - Important information like how they only live for 7 days... whew.
- Trish Haley
are kidding me!? if I see that on my front door I'll burn that house, wtf is that ?
- cihanergur
wow that would freak me out lol even looking at that pic gives me the creeps
- eric
Thanks. Now I wont be able to sleep tonight.
- Rustic Thoughts
Stuart, well, it sure looks like long pieces of sprue didn't get trimmed :)
- Micah Wittman
That's a fly? Looks more like an alien you'd see on Star Trek!
- Cam
...and who t.f. is Dobson, anyway? wasn't he the actor who played "Crocker" opposite Telly Savalas' "Kojak"?
- .LAG liked that
They made a movie about these right where they evolve to look like humans
- Joe Dawson
In certain parts of the world. they have saber tooth crotch crickets that are bigger than this.
- Tony C
from fftogo
'shopped
- Bwana ☠
Oh, look. He's smiling!
- Mike Lewis
(UP, just to show it to my italian bug "lover" friends which were sleeping last night - remember: this thing FARTS!) :D
- Andrea (Notorious)
from IM
GAH!!! It's not real it's not real it's not real.
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Yuck
- YoYo_P
Happy Halloween!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
NOM!
- Joe Silence
JEEBUS I must've missed this the first time around. I will now actively loathe you for at least 24 housrs.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
oh sweet jesus HIDE!
- holly
Jennifer, will you marry me? A marriage proposal on telephone poles turns sour - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
Keith Pelczarski, Prakash and Stewart Heys liked this
"A mystery woman called Jennifer has become the talk of the town in Bigola, NSW, Australia, after a series of signs appeared on telephone poles along Barrenjoey Rd, the busiest road in the area... "
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Aww... Oh.
- April Buchheit
I've got to think more than one woman named Jennifer drives down that road...
- Kevin Fox
90% of cool stuff like this I now automatically dismiss as ARG or publicity stunt.
- Stephen Mack
Fwd: The J-Walk Blog: Annoying Monkeys - http://j-walkblog.com/index... (via http://friendfeed.com/slippy...)
Markus Merz, Toby Graham, ســـــــیــــــــد and 67 other people liked this
hahahaha
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Noah, which one is you? I am the one with all the sexy ladies! hahahhaah
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Do you have FB connect on your other blogs and does it work?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
How many monkeys in the picture?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
if I comment will you leave me along and not answer back?
- Noah David Simon
Comment about what?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
OMG~!!
- 陈浩小贤
can you comment using fb connect now?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Igor throws some peanuts to his monkey friends! let's party LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
gah-rate
- Noah David Simon
I'm too tired to do anything... and too crazy to sleep
- Noah David Simon
so u can comment with fb connect but it does not thread to where? to ff? to fb?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
monkeys play! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Are you talking in your sleep? Now let go of my Bitch Monkey! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Friendfeed monkeys having Fun!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
look what I got http://friendfeed.com/Jerusal...
- Noah David Simon
Noah, find me a nice Jewish girl. LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I pissed off the girl at the pool tonight. I kind of had a crush on her.
- Noah David Simon
Did she try to drown you?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
she gave me the pissed off look. I wanna jump her so bad. she looks like Sara
- Noah David Simon
down doggy LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Noah, I am going to buy a Burka for you! Ur One ugly Dog! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I'm going to put my foot in your ass
- Noah David Simon
my monkeys will jump you
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
stop reading my blog
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
fool
- Noah David Simon
turkey
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
hey no monkey business, leave my girl alone ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
fun time!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
This pic reminds me of Rajasthan, India. We went to see an old fort and a bunch of monkeys were hanging around. I bought a bag of peanuts to feed the monkeys. As I was throwing peanuts to the monkeys af few at a time, a huge monkey ran to me and grab the whole bag of peanuts out of my hand! BAD MONKEY! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
play time! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Speak no Evil, Hear no Evil, Do no Evil. LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I hope the driver does not have a heart attack! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
kill this thread
- Noah David Simon
i like my monkeys LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
monkey is blocked LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
are these the moderate monkeys I was hearing about from our government?
- Noah David Simon
they do not look so moderate to me! give them a bunch of bananas, but watch your hand. they bite ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I'm offering the monkeys nationalized healthcare
- Noah David Simon
free food and no taxes for life!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
get her, before she runs away!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
igor throws a bag of peanuts!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
http://ff.im/5LtFU "In the recent past of the tribes of New Guinea and Australia, little brothers and sisters witnessed how parents killed one of their siblings and made the rest of the family share the cannibal feast. “They eat the head first”, wrote Géza Róheim in Psychoanalysis and anthropology published in 1950. Gillian Gillison observed in Between culture and fantasy: a New Guinea highlands mythology, published in 1993, that the mother eats the son’s penis."
- Noah David Simon
bad monkey, bad monkey, bad monkey!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
hanging out on Wikipedia, come say hello! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
igor gives noah the monkey a banana ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Igor stop messing with Monkeys... and @BCuban
- Noah David Simon
haha
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
the heart attack blog was amazing Igor. it was you at your best (a few grammar probs) Fwd: Igor The Troll » My Heart Attack - http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog... (via http://ff.im/60Vdb)
- Noah David Simon
Thanks Noah. You have to survive one to be able to write about it! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
WoW new monkey ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
WoW the Tribe is growing!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
May the Force be with You! http://www.igorthetroll.com/master-...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
cool
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Yid's Cock the Troll
- Noah David Simon
let go my lego
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
play
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
me monkey have many ladies LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
it appears they have Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate... or it is as real as his American digital version. the monkeys are still in denial
- Noah David Simon
Noah, behave or I will send my Ninja monkeys after you! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I'm serious. they have it. the Kenyan Birth Certificate
- Noah David Simon
more monkeys! great!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I am a bad monkey! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Who are you? LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I
- Noah David Simon
igor throws a bunch of bananas to his monkey buddies!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
igor looking for Noah the monkey ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
looks like the Kenya BC is fake. strange since I had also seen a digital Indonesian one
- Noah David Simon
TROLL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
666
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
This monkey is hungry, going out for munchies! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
sexy monkey
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
no new monkeys? LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_rel... Humans related to orangutans, not chimps, says new Pitt, Buffalo Museum of Science study... which explains a few things about you Igor. Orangutans have orgies of multiple men ejaculating in one female. Chimps are more likely to be monogamous. Gorillas have harems of women and the dominant Gorillas beat up on the queer ones.
- Noah David Simon
Noah which one are you? LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Noah, I still Love U http://12seconds.tv/channel... LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
play time, catch the RED ball
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
i see a gorilla
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
yamy
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
sent my laptop away. will be online fulltime by Friday. will be making more videos
- Noah David Simon
cool
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
monkeys' fight
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
http://friendfeed.com/squidre... I put silly questionable things here
- Noah David Simon
it says file not found, ru on the right thread? this is public!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
now I am lost
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I put together some feeds that are "mainstream" ...a lot of offensive stuff. mostly popular science community and tech culture. not always bad... but I didn't want it in my main feed. not endorsed but worth checking out
- Noah David Simon
yeap rubber room ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
exactly. I'm reading it... but i don't like it
- Noah David Simon
mangos
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
saw this video on the National Geographic Channel about the "Stick Men" of Africa. they have this ritual which is kind of like a Bar Mitzvah: the kid has to walk on Cattle backs and then they take the kid's sisters and beat them with sticks till they bleed... while the sisters dance. the women consider it an honor to be beaten for their brother's manhood ceremony. I wonder if I can talk my sister into that?
- Noah David Simon
i am still waiting to meet your sister, when she is coming to japan?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
...she has been to Japan on numerous occasions actually
- Noah David Simon
Twitter is down! shit
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
got my apple back.... but I will be prepping the machine with stuff
- Noah David Simon
ice cream
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I redesigned my blog again. I took off both Disqus and Intense Debate. the only comments are friendfeed embeds!!!! I think it works better that way. take a look http://simonstudiotheatre.blogspot.com/
- Noah David Simon
Redesigned my blog a bit to show the sidebar in single posts http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
not sure if I like your use of mybloglog. I found a little trick with mybloglog. you can just put a script in and see who from that network came by. that is why I killed the actual widget that slows the page down. I'm attempting minimalism. that is why I killed all commenting. if I want people's opinions then I put a friendfeed widget in manually. I also undid everything. I literally...
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- Noah David Simon
Yes, I track people who visit my blog via myblod widget, that is what it is for. The person visiting a blog that has my log widget must be logged in into theor myblog to be tracked! My blog has always been minimalized. I told you about this one year ago, but you did not want to listen and put all kind of crap on yours. If it takes long time to load, people leave. I also put myblog widget in IFRAME html tag, so it does not effect blog loading! Even when myblog is down, blog louds no problem!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
yes... you were right. ...but also you don't need the widget to put the script in. you can still track people covertly
- Noah David Simon
True, but I also like to show my visitors who visit my site, and give my visitors credit for visiting the site! not really tracking anyone! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Ah, Twitter spammers.
- l0ckergn0me
Nope, we love Twitter! See you on Twitter! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
l0ckergn0me it isn't twitter that I want to spam. it is facebook. but I'm starting to think it is a bad idea. I get a lot of people commenting by status updates on facebook. most people aren't bright enough to use lists. I'm starting to think just a loop I create each day might be a better idea. when I get comments I just delete the wasted ones.
- Noah David Simon
also Igor. I'd rather give people a way to follow your fanpage then mybloglog. you can track them better if they become your fan.
- Noah David Simon
interesting. networked blogs used an image from the blog. check out my home page. I REALLY Like networked blogs. it really punctuates a facebook fanpage well http://simonstudio.com/ark
- Noah David Simon
chocolate banana http://friendfeed.com/igorthe...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
A Virgin for Arafat http://friendfeed.com/igorthe...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
goodnight @igorthetroll2
- Noah David Simon
FUCK YOU NOAH http://friendfeed.com/igorthe...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
oink
- Noah David Simon
McBride's Nazi Peanut Gallery?
- Noah David Simon
have a chocolate http://friendfeed.com/igorthe...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Read this book, cool http://friendfeed.com/igorthe...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Forian
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Igor please don't put serious issues here. Forian isn't a monkey. he is a very sad brainwashed child.
- Noah David Simon
Do not play with my Bitch monkeys! I am the monkey Boss! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Noah, go edit Wikipedia!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
dance ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
DEATH TO SCOBLE!
- The Black Book
Mooo ha ha ha ha ah
- Noah David Simon
MCD time!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Wikipedia
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
CIA report http://friendfeed.com/igorthe...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
"Bulverism is a logical fallacy in which, rather than proving that an argument is wrong, a person instead assumes it is wrong, and then goes on to explain why the other person held that argument. It is essentially a circumstantial ad hominem argument. The term "Bulverism" was coined by C. S. Lewis. It is very similar to Antony Flew's "Subject/Motive Shift"." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... sound like a certain strategy from Sean McBride? I think so
- Noah David Simon
I am a smuggler USA to Mexico http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Cool songs by Helen http://www.reverbnation.com/control...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
why are you promoting people who support Gaza Igor? why are you supporting a woman who has defamed Israel?
- Noah David Simon
I am amazed - getting a link - there you are. Reading a new story. Is it supposed to be like this.- I thought my name was there automatically. Elly Sorensen
- Elly Sorensen
igor throws bananas to his monkey friends ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Noah, someone who was against war in Gaza, does not mean they are anti Israel. The person could just be anti war!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
just because I let this guy fuck me in the ass tonight doesn't mean I'm gay. I'm Anti Celibate!
- Noah David Simon
Noah are confessing that you are GAY?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
when Monkey's attack. film at 11!
- Scratch5150
Monkeys Loose in Tokyo http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Robert Scoble is a Jerk http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
igor throws fidler to the monkeys for picking on his friend rachael
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
monkeys
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
fixed my blog tags to view in safari
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
thanks. it is important
- Noah David Simon
please remember to #tweet4Shalit ...you can use you can use twitterfeed to take a twitter search rss of #GiladShalit and rt @JIDF
- Noah David Simon
mango
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
http://ff.im/7zlOK "Can an interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain a confession?" was the follow-up question posed to the Islamic cleric. Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The necessary precaution is for the interrogator to perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner. If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus. It is...
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- Noah David Simon
Arnold wants big Dong http://twitter.com/ramiitz...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
this is never going to go away, is it?
- Chieze Okoye
We want everyone to learn the truth!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
http://digg.com/d3133RQ how is this for historical analysis of the bible?
- Noah David Simon
Analyze Hummus Arab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
fifi
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I'll buy that for a dollar. jail bait
- Noah David Simon
For a dollar you can have 5 finger Mary! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I need to get a job as a prison guard in Iran
- Noah David Simon
As long as you do not become an inmate durring the revolution! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
http://ff.im/7DKU3 Daled Amos: Khadafy Will Ask UN To Abolish The Country Of...Switzerland?
- Noah David Simon
Getting ready for a vacation to Israel and Europe!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
to those who are wondering. they seem to be tracking my friends from another room called http://friendfeed.com/disinfo... 911Troofers as admins
- Noah David Simon
#ShanaTova Monkeys!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
#ShanaTova http://www.nytimes.com/2009... you know it is bad if the nazis at the NYTimes even printed it. Is this one of those Aha moments for us regarding the NGOs? I've been following this for months on the blogs, but I never thought this story would get picked up by MSM. yes people it is real! the human rights groups and the UN were...
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- Noah David Simon
PhoenixFeather Photo Stories - The Fab Four Are Here! #foxfosterkittens - http://stories.phoenixfeather.net/
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Wulffy, Jeanette Bosman, rowlikeagirl and 26 other people liked this
Too cute
- Alex Scoble
(32 photos) They have been with us a month now, and have grown up so much and we just can't help but love them!!! There are little meet the kitten descriptions on the page too! and more photos will follow very soon!
- Rachel Lea Fox
So cute! I'm headed out of town, but hopefully I'll get a chance to visit this batch before they move on to new homes.
- Paul Wilcox
Paul, they will be here another week still.
- Rachel Lea Fox
That's a great thing about fostering. Some people wish their pets were always this young & cute. You always get the kittens! (Although, I guess, it means having to have a lot more energy for them.)
- Spidra Webster
Spidra, they are a lot of work, but so so worth it. There is lots of poo cleaning, and feedings can be chaotic, and did I mention lots of poo! but seriously they really are awesome to have. They are the best stress relief ever too.
- Rachel Lea Fox
How long are you going to keep them? We'd like to see them again after we get back! (we're coming back tomorrow, Friday 9/4)
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, we will have them at least until 9/11!
- Rachel Lea Fox
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LOL.
- Kol Tregaskes
:))
- حاج مهدی ©
=)))
- Bius
BMW drivers are normally asses, this is just the other way around.
- Liam Delahunty
:))
- علیرضـــــــآ
Haha, Liam!! I got this pic from G-dog btw, Liam. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
he's famous http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MBBiyb...
- Adi
Wow :) BMW... :)
- Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik
Adi, that link didn't work.
- Kol Tregaskes
mwhahaha :D poor thing
- ozztrojen
Sorry about that Kol. http://i27.tinypic.com/1zplcld...
- Adi
I think I could actually afford that model.
- Matt
A guy can dream, can't he? No Fail here :)
- Kamilah Gill
Gives new meaning to the ultimate driving machine :)
- Dilip Dand
Is it a 2X2 or does it comes in a 4X4 as well.
- Usman Bashir
Ah, thanks, Adi. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
AW
- Caroline
looooooooooooooool
- anisviaccess
Hehe!
- Kol Tregaskes
véritable 4x4 écolo. :D
- Bob Lyr
Don't talk... just look...
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- Louis Gray
You know what I love about FriendFeed... everyone who follows Louis and has FoaF enabled will now see this... *giggles*
- Johnny Worthington
Robert Scoble should weigh in on this......just sayin
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oh god! *stomach turns*
- Joe
*BARF*
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
You owe me... I'm not sure what or why... but I feel wronged, and owed.
- SAM
bad touch! bad touch! bad touch!
- Mistletoe Glen
he needs to see his dermatologist...or urologist...or both.
- Joe Silence
I NEED AN ADULT! I NEED AN ADULT
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
"... and they called it puppy love"
- Johnny Worthington
LOL stop man.
- Joe
Hehehehe... LMAO Johnny. Very. Very. Bad.
- SAM
You were saving up for that one.
- SAM
i don't think that puppy will survive the experience.
- Joe Silence
I was about to do something when I sat down at my computer but this photo has totally derailed that train of thought... it's gone...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
But...there are so many wrinkles....!
- WorldofHiglet
Lindsay... my work here is done :)
- Johnny Worthington
surprised nobody has said it: he's got doggie style... (did i go to far?)
- Marco
never.
- Joe Silence
I've just read the title of this...how very apt but what a disturbing song to associate with this pic o_O
- WorldofHiglet
haaahahahahaha!!
- vijay
ewww
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
Um, no. Can't look. HIDE!!!
- Ladybug Heather
MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH NO MY EYES....
- Amit Morson
oh my word... oh ... my ... word ... --- ...
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
gaaahhh
- Imabug
I almost spewed coffee all over the living room when I saw this.
- Jamie Mack
Like a Zombie, this post is impossible to kill.
- Joe
I cannot resist asking.... Is that a pug in his lap or is he just "happy" to see me?
- The Catz Meow
You should make this your FF background.
- Louis Gray
Aaarrgggh My Eyes! Please stop the hurting... What's that, if I stop scratching at them the pain will start to go away... good advice.
- Travis Koger
Coincidence! This guy played the character Michael Knight in the popular 1980's television series Knight Rider. Just checked it out yesterday! :D
- Praveen Vasudev
*weeps openly*
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from BuddyFeed
O_O cannot unsee.
- Penny
So shouldn't he be wearing a car then, instead of those innocent shar peis? Oh... is it bad that it took like three different times of looking at that to figure out there was a puppy on his Hasselhoffler?
- Bette Cooper
Ah man.. you can't do that to us!! At first I was trying to figure out what was on his belly (and umm crotch).. What's the *other dog* sitting on?
- Chris Myles
@Bette, I only realised they were puppies from your comment. I originally thought they were pillows LOL!
- Travis Koger
I think he's trying to emulate the Burt Reynolds pose in Cosmo (I believe)... but it's kind of scary, really... the poor puppies...
- Bette Cooper
my eyes!
- Rasmus Lauridsen
hmm I _might_ have to delete my comment so this doesn't keep popping back up.. I need more friends that have ANYTHING else to share or talk about!! Help!!
- Chris Myles
I haz da sniffels and though I would bump this again to make me feel better....... oh, and you're welcome :)
- Johnny Worthington
i prefer the drunken cheeseburger pic ...
- johnpiercy
This is WAY worse that then nipple three-way.
- Spidra Webster
It seems that puppies love David Hasselhoff.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
This is the perfect image for me tonight. I'm burning this into my brain so I can conjure it up if necessary until I heal.
- Mark Krynsky
if only my photoshop-fu was better - josh and johnny's mug on the puppies would be *perfect*
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Haha...that would be epic Mike.
- Mark Krynsky
Microsoft wants people to throw Windows 7 launch parties in their homes. - http://www.houseparty.com/splash...
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Who will be the first to photoshop a Wookie into that image? :)
- Matt Cutts
from Bookmarklet
I volunteer you, Matt!
- imabonehead
In a related story, Procter and Gamble wants you to throw a launch party for their new and improved Ivory Soap.
- Ray Cromwell
Will this image be used for Poland too ?
- k0nan
Who does Microsoft's marketing? These people are morons. Absolute f**king morons.
- Chris Nixon
I read this "warns people" not "wants people" lol
- anna sauce
Actually this has convinced me to cancel my order for Windows 7. I want no part of this.
- Chris Nixon
Photoshop a Wookie? How about that pesky squirrel that pops up everywhere! ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
Everyone I would invite to a party for the launch of Win 7 is already running it in the enterprise, so it will not exactly be a big 'hurrah'. ;) Seriously I am not even thinking of having a party.
- Travis Koger
Oh I'm not throwing a party you can be sure of that...it's just that their piss poor marketing is degrading what was looking like a good product.
- Chris Nixon
I remember throwing a "CP/M is Dead!!!" party... how many here can say that!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
what if people threw copies of Windows 7 on the ground while in their houses? :)
- Lawton Chiles
Hahah! http://houseparty.com: "The site you have attempted to access has been blocked due to its content: "Entertainment;Suspicious"" (my company uses BlueCoat filtering, "Suspicious" gets blocked).
- Otto
I like the way only one person brought their laptop... Surely you'd all install it...
- Rich
Oh yeah, sent out my party invites already. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
That's pretty sad.
- ronin
I never knew installing OS could be so fun.
- Micah
I want to know why the guy in the back isn't allowed to sit with the rest of them. Was he a little *too* excited for Windows 7?
- Mark Trapp
Darwin Poster: Very Gradual Change We Can Believe In - http://www.zee.me/blog...
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:D
- Ayşe E.
Sweet! My best lightning photo ever - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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wow, it's really awesome
- Melita
Good shot. One would hope, that friendfeed comments would be fed back into flickr comments ...
- Henner Zeller
That Mitchell and Webb Look: Proof of no God - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I just spoke with FriendFeed cofounder Paul Buchheit. Did you know that he promised family that FriendFeed would continue? More:
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He told me they messed up by not communicating better last week. The deal happened so fast that they didn't pay attention to everything.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I like how this is starting
- Robert DeBord
o0o0o0
- Mark
Promises ?
- johnpiercy
as its own service?
- Lee
you are the one who keeps proclaiming its death
- Mark
That's what Compaq said when they purchased DEC. (for those of you old enough to remember)
- RobinDotNet
A promise is not a guarantee.
- Amit Morson
Such a tease, Robert. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
More smoke-blowing. I don't care of Paul swore on the graves of his ancestors. Actions speak louder than words. Some vague promise to a group of people I'm excluded from doesn't do much to assuage my unease.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, you're right, but it's not smoke.
- Louis Gray
Okay, Louis, true. I retract that first sentence. The rest of it, however, I'm sticking by.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: well I feel a lot better about things today.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Continue just as it is? Or with key changes?
- Karma Martell
I would expect them to post more on this topic soon - on their personal blogs.
- Louis Gray
If that's what Paul wants to promise us, he needs to release some kind of official statement, not send a message through Robert.
- Rochelle
Soon.
- Louis Gray
I bet you as part of the contract, its in there not to shut this down
- Stephen Pickering
Rochelle: there are too many unknowns to make a definitive statement yet.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
keeping my hopes up. but i do remember working at a few radio stations that were bought, we'd get a memo saying 'the format is not going to change' about three weeks before we switched to spanish. i think there is just too much here for ff to vanish. keep the dream alive!
- michael sean wright
How can he when it`s lost all of its autonomy? Supplanted by Facebook, bought outright no?
- sofarsoShawn
It couldve been part of the deal not to let the site die
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, like you said, one can hope. However both of us know how corporates work and it takes one small decision from share holders to close down the service, no matter what.
- Nir Ben Yona
They want to get to Facebook and get those unknowns nailed down first.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Holden and Rochelle, etc., let's be patient. If you see the post I put up last night and add Robert's comments here, we should be feeling a lot better today than we did on Monday.
- Louis Gray
Robert, all right. Well, after my initial freak-out over this, I've gone into complete wait-and-see mode. More of these vague promises and 'coming soon' messages don't really do much for me. When someone say something definitive, then I'll be there to consume it. The rest of this just doesn't add up for much.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That was a great post Louis
- Stephen Pickering
Thanks, Stephen. I thought it was important.
- Louis Gray
Akiva, exactly, waiting for official word.
- Kol Tregaskes
Nir: the way it was told to me contractually it can't be closed down anytime soon.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I hope they don't change it so you have to have a Facebook account to use it. I have one, but share it with very few; I use Twitter and FF for everyone. I want to be able to use it the way I do now.
- RobinDotNet
Like any takeover/merger, some details just take time to work out. Hopefully FF can stay around in some form and help make FB better. We'll just have to wait and see. Thanks, Robert, for the info.
- Mark Edwards
I agree, we haven`t seen anything substantive in the way of contract etc but fingers crossed.
- sofarsoShawn
But doesn't mean it won't be shutdown at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
And, Louis, I didn't see your post from last night but I'll read it as soon as I get back from the store.
- Akiva Moskovitz
was Pownce a bit like Friendfeed? I never used it
- Mark
I can't get my hopes up when Facebook is in the picture. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I am very happy to hear that! I hope it gets bigger than Twitter. It's a much better service.
- Sam Guzman
Stable Door and Horse comes to mind.
- Kevin J Hatton
The fact that the FF folks haven't yet said "This is how we want it, so this is how it's going to be" is just evidence that they don't have the final say on the matter. If it's subject to some additional authority/approval, nothing is certain at this point.
- Ken Sheppardson
Kol: it won't be shut down anytime soon. He was quite clear about that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Kol, the truth is they work for Facebook now, and therefore, FriendFeed can/will change, and it may not change 100% how you and I want. It may be part of Facebook's site later, and it may not. But Facebook is changing from what we know of it now to something new where they overlap.
- Louis Gray
In other words that was in the contract. Makes sense, since they were hesitant anyway
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, OK but maybe at some point though.
- Kol Tregaskes
I sure would like it if FF continued indefinitely.
- Jason Nunnelley
Kol: nothing in life is guaranteed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Patience is a good thing. That said, if FriendFeed wasn't growing at a rate much higher than it has been, something would have to change. You don't bottle up such talent and experience and have it work on a product that was losing.
- Louis Gray
Robert, What about death and taxes?
- RobinDotNet
Good to hear. I am sure they will take time to decide what exactly to do with FF. How to integrate them together. What to do etc. FF the R&D for FB I think it could be
- Robert Anderson
Robert, true. All a bit vague still though.
- Kol Tregaskes
Scoble: encourage Facebook to keep FriendFeed as a premium brand. Let them tie it to Facebook data or whatever, but keep the system separate.
- Gary
Louis, right, this gives them legitimacy and exposure
- Stephen Pickering
Kol... if they wanted to grow they way they "deserved" to grow, this place would have changed underneath your feet to something you might hate. This is one way to put real capital and people behind the site as it is now.
- Louis Gray
So what? Do they continue try to grow friendfeed as an individual product? Or do they just leave it alive for those of us who actually use it?
- Sam Guzman
If this thing grows by leaps and bounds, FB is not going to close it
- Stephen Pickering
Mark: anytime a blogger says something is dead ALL that means is that it is less interesting than yesterday.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Over time, we will learn, Sam. It's a classical marketing/engineering decision. Do you build for the current user base, or the potential user base? With change. some were bound to leave anyway.
- Louis Gray
Louis, not arguing that at all. My point was about shutting it down or not. I'm at the wait-and-see stage, waiting for more news from FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
And any time I write a headline that says it's NOT dead... maybe I know what I'm talking about. :)
- Louis Gray
But this service grows more useful the more users there are
- Stephen Pickering
Something needs to happen. Twitter is useless now - maybe a new denial of service attack. I would love to see the Friendfeed technology spread to the mass user base that Facebook has.
- Frode Stenstrøm
Yeah, I understand. Maybe some of the extra publicity from the acquisition will lead to an increase in users...curious people signing up to see what it's all about.
- Sam Guzman
Well, at least he acknowledged they messed up.
- Rodfather
oh sweet, I just spent ages adding friendfeed people, setting up privacy and setting up FF to stream to my FB....now this might be a waste of time?
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Frode: that was what Paul told me too. He wants the tech here to be used by everyone.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I don't understand why Google didn't buy it instead.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Rod, FriendFeed has no PR or Marketing. Maybe if they did, this would have been handled differently. Some things come naturally, and others are hard. But I bet you will see a lot more soon.
- Louis Gray
I've heard the same from another founder, Robert.
- Anne Bouey
Franz, no official word, just wait for an announcement from FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
They didn't want to work for google again.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Makes you wonder about a due diligence ckecklist and the speed of getting this deal done
- courtney benson
Kinda why they left. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Right, look at Google Reader. They don't know how to do social
- Stephen Pickering
It's all wonky and hard to understand
- Stephen Pickering
But GR is going in that direction.
- Kol Tregaskes
Companies come and companies go. They can go by closing their doors or by being acquired. Only time will tell whether FriendFeed has come and gone.
- Jeff Sayre
Google Reader is nothing like FF. No one really uses the social features.
- Sam Guzman
GR is trying, but its all wonky and totally un understandable
- Stephen Pickering
Oh. I just don't trust Facebook at all and can barely stand using it after being here.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer, I think we have to look beyond the caricatures of people like Zuckerberg, and recognize that he too may want the same things we do. Facebook is growing up and I bet FriendFeed and its team is a big part of that.
- Louis Gray
Louis, hope so.
- Kol Tregaskes
courtney: Paul talked about that too. He said once the team made the decision they knew it had to be closed overnight to prevent it from leaking.
- Robert Scoble
Louis I think its a perfect marriage, genius engineers + genius Marketers
- Stephen Pickering
Real real time would be awesome in Facebook. I really hope it comes soon.
- Sam Guzman
Well, he didn't quite say "prevent it from leaking" but he said "it's important to do it all at once." I knew what he meant, though, that it had to be done fast to keep things from getting crazy, like they do once decisions like this get taken into public sphere.
- Robert Scoble
I am sure paul is truthful in that he would like for it to go that way, but this is a M&A situation, and even if it is written into the agreement, there are a million ways around it. At the end of the day, shareholders make the rules in a majority vote. If ff isn't integrated in fb somehow, I fail to see how it benefits fb.
- Erik Boles
from iPhone
Kol: Paul was emphatic that Facebook is a far more interesting company at this time in both company's history.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Somehow this doesn't sound too convincing. If Friendfeed has been losing a LOT of regular users because of their deal with Facebook, they'd be concerned. Friendfeed is likely to get you to speak on their behalf, since you are their most popular user. Maybe Paul is trying to convince you, so that he can indirectly convince others too. That might save an early end to Friendfeed brought on by the rapid loss of users.
- K N Ajit Narayan
I totally agree with Paul, by the way. Facebook is a much more interesting company to join right now than Google is.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook = Microsoft 2.0
- scott anderson
Robert: Did he mention anything about Mashable reporting an acquisition had been talked about since `07?
- sofarsoShawn
YAY! thanks Scoble for letting us know - i feel alot better today!
- Chris Clayton
Hey, Microsoft had a decent run
- Stephen Pickering
Louis: yeah, Zuckerberg is a lot smarter and a lot more down to earth than most of the press gives him credit for. He's always been straight up with me. Much better than other companies have treated me.
- Robert Scoble
And that's even including getting kicked off of Facebook for 24 hours.
- Robert Scoble
@ Scott, LOL Facebook = Microsoft 2.0! I see your point, but it far surpasses Microsoft Live attempt at a social network.
- Nakeva Corothers
Erik: technologies that have great audiences don't get killed. If anything will kill it, it will be us. By leaving.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, cool. Well if they can ditch a lot of their annoying features, like this FB Lite might be, then I might be interested in moving over with all the FF features implemented but I just can't work with FB in it's currently state. I had another go this weekend and still didn't like it. But I'd be even happier if FF stayed here. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
this is gonna be an interesting story to follow for sure. For now I am just using friendfeed the way I have been and see what comes out down the road. life is about changes.
- (jeff)isageek
sofarsoShawn: I don't know what you're talking about regarding Mashable.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe I missed it earlier in this thread but why can't they just come out and say something directly to the community? Obviously a lot of people are concerned and anxious about it... Why do we have to hear second-hand? And why has it all been so vague? No news is not necessarily good news in cases like this.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Robert, Leo called himself Leo Scoble today because he deleted his 5000 FB friends and moved them over to his fan page
- Stephen Pickering
jeff: yeah. Visiting Facebook is going to get more interesting. He also said that the first month at Facebook (which starts Monday) will be all about learning about Facebook's code. So, no new features will come quickly.
- Robert Scoble
Ok. I hope Facebook changes a LOT so it's more tolerable. Although I don't like it, I need to set up a good Facebook page for business so I can remain competitive.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I hope they do right by you. You brought them to the party. I hope that gets recognized somehow monetarily.
- Jim Posner
Saying that it might be shut down at some point doesn't tell us anything new, though; after all, any site might be shut down at some point due to going out of business etc.
- Tristan Seligmann
When anything comes out of this it was always going to be long term.
- Kol Tregaskes
Can i just add - Paul never said friendfeed was going to die in the first place... instead they said the complete opposite - "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team."
- Chris Clayton
I'm not sure why everyone dislikes Facebook. What's wrong with it?
- Sam Guzman
sofarsoShawn, yes, Facebook had been talking to FriendFeed since 2007.
- Louis Gray
Lindsay, I bet the FriendFeed team has a very busy week and maybe you hear from them on all this soon.
- Louis Gray
Robert: "technologies that have great audiences don't get killed..." oh, come on, you know better than that! My dad worked at IBM so I've been seeing tech companies kill great stuff that their customers liked for most of my life!!!!
- Fred Davis
Jim, Scoble has gotten no money from FriendFeed (nor have I). Neither one of us expects to, as that would change the relationship.
- Louis Gray
He said FF would continue operating normally "for now". That was what freaked people out. But I'm glad to hear that Paul and company have plans to keep the service running for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't want to wake up one morning and find my favorite service was shut down.
- Jason Huebel
Fred, right, the Innovators Dilemma, but in this case its cost of running a website is halving every year
- Stephen Pickering
Louis: yes, but Paul told me that when I last was in the office they hadn't yet decided to go to Facebook. Everything happened in the past two weeks. I think you even walked in on one of their key decision points. He said they worked all weekend long on the agreement.
- Robert Scoble
Fred: nothing in life is guaranteed, yeah, you're right. But there's no business reason to turn this off anytime soon. If we all leave there will be.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: e.g., consumer company changes focus to biz or gets acquired... new company direction leads to consumer products getting killed despite popularity... that's just one of many ways that good tech gets killed all the time!!!
- Fred Davis
No disagreement on that at all, Robert. I know I walked in on something big, and that was my mistake for not calling ahead.
- Louis Gray
Seems their valuation stood on Roberts shoulders to some degree. At the least, a public thanks would have been nice.
- Jim Posner
Jason: i know, thats what got me freaked out too - i just thought i would add it in incase anyone missed it :) and because im a little bored! lol
- Chris Clayton
If FF were Twitter, we'd be screaming bloody blue murder about how they don't "get" user communication, etc., etc.
- Chris Baskind
Fred, can you give any examples? Any software I used to use that is no longer available was replaced with something better.
- RobinDotNet
No business reason that WE understand... 'cuz we don;t go to Facebook board meetings ;-) Facebook may have their own agenda... in fact, I assume they do...
- Fred Davis
Jim: I do this because I love it, not because I expect thanks or goodies.
- Robert Scoble
Why even bring this up if they can't talk about it? Nothing has changed just more innuendo and smoke and mirrors and a lot of 'what ifs'. Wake me when there's something concrete.
- Derrick
Robert: when you talk to paul next, can you push him into doing a public announcement on it all? Just give him a nudge in the right direction! :)
- Chris Clayton
RobinDotNet... god, too many to count! First one I was bummed about was in '85 when Musicworks was the best MIDI program on the Mac... got acquired by some jerky game company that decided it wasn't a game and stranded all the users! Yeah, eventually new better stuff came along... but that didn't do the users of the current any good at that time...
- Fred Davis
Derrick: sorry, I totally disagree. I didn't know that contractually they can't kill the service anytime soon.
- Robert Scoble
Derrick, there is more than smoke.
- Louis Gray
It makes sense, they had leverage to make that deal
- Stephen Pickering
Fred -- Okay, so that was one that was 24 years ago. Have any more recent examples? If you can't think of any, then they obviously weren't that important.
- RobinDotNet
Because they were hesitant, they had the leverage to make that part of the deal. Makes total sense
- Stephen Pickering
Um, apple buys leading music sequencing package and kills of PC version because, um, they want to force you to use a mac... come on, the list is endless!!! Companies screw customers by killing good products for their own reasons all the time....
- Fred Davis
Sorry, things are moving fast in this thread. There's a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running?
- Jason Huebel
Fred, you keep saying the list is endless, but the only one you can name is one that came out about 2 years after the 1st Mac, 24 years ago. I'm just saying....
- RobinDotNet
Fred, but what if part of the deal was not to kill it?
- Stephen Pickering
This whole "Friendfeed is dead" mantra is, has, and always will be nothing more than an attempt to get attention. Friendfeed is successful and Facebook would never do anything to destroy that.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Derrick: believe me, Louis and I have been talking and concerned about the messaging coming out of this deal more than anyone. We both invested a lot of our time/careers here. Louis has been talking with the team too and that's where his post came from yesterday. I suggest you read it and read between the lines too.
- Robert Scoble
Understand Robert, Really not about your motivation, just good manners in my opinion for Friendfeed to thank you publically. Maybe they have and I missed it. I think you did more for promoting the service than the founders.
- Jim Posner
now, what facebook decides to do with friendfeed... who knows... Yahoo kept Flickr going... so far... but that seems like the exception... no one's really using jabber any more, but it lives on in the upcoming Wave and as XMPP at Google...
- Fred Davis
agreed scoble promoted the service in a big way
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Jim: thanks, appreciate it. Paul did thank me in the interview I did with him right after the announcement was made.
- Robert Scoble
If there is a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running, the obvious question is what does this contract state and does it give a duration. Hopefully we'll hear more later.
- Kol Tregaskes
Why? What would be the point? I respect you two enough and all that you do in the world of social media and that's fine. I want a place I can converse, post my pictures, air my gripes, and continue to establish the friends I've made via Friendfeed. Will I be able to do that or not? I'm so tired of the conjecture. Some of us, are just people who love the service and more than anything, very simply, we just want to be able to utilize it.
- Derrick
Kol: I call it the "Paul is sleeping on the couch for a month" clause. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
LOL, Robert.
- Kol Tregaskes
For a company like Facebook, I would imagine that the consolidation of branding advantage would lead me to suspect that even if Friendfeed is kept going in some way, it will be re-branded as Facebook... just like Longs, Wamu, and Wells Fargo are going through right in Facebook's backyard.
- Fred Davis
Derrick, this is the place to do that. :)
- Louis Gray
"For now". ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Throws sheep at Kol
- Louis Gray
Hehe, Louis.
- Kol Tregaskes
The other main issue I have is that, now we are creating content for Facebook. Facebook owns our data. For some reason I didn't mind Paul and his team, they were blacksheep. If I wanted to make Facebook richer I would type in Facebook in the URL. I dont want to make Facebook richer.
- Robert Higgins
What are the alternatives to FF? Isn't there Streamy, Plurk, SocialThing?
- Eric
Louis, I'll be counting sheep soon, need sleep. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Eric, we've been evaluating alternatives in the CloneFeed/OpenFF room. None of them really come anywhere close to what FF offers.
- Jason Huebel
Eric, none of those services are really similar. SocialThing is closest, but FF is still quite a bit different.
- Sam Guzman
Of course, since I'm hoping Grabbit will replace Friendfeed for most people, I'm more than a little biased, and that makes me care a lot less about what happens to Friendfeed... even though I love the service, and hope Facebook keeps it going. We're already planning to support Friendfeed in Grabbit, and the new Friendfeed API is awesome, so who knows what the extent of the disruption...
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- Fred Davis
So the word now is that FF will be around for a while AND Paul's mentioned the possibility that parts of FF might be open sourced. Any idea what parts?
- Jason Huebel
Sam, I know there is something. I am upset, because I wanted to buy FF someday! :)
- Eric
There has to be an alternative.
- Eric
Jason: too early to know that for sure. I'd start with the API. From what my friends are telling me who are good developers the API is actually very well thought out.
- Robert Scoble
Eric: Not really. Make one.
- Sam Guzman
There was an alternative, but I think it shut down.
- Eric
There is no need to replace FriendFeed. That there are options to decentralize our info is great, but I'm not going anywhere.
- Louis Gray
It was called SocialThing.
- Eric
Fred: I just don't like Facebook's service for WHAT I DO. For my wife? It's freaking awesome. And the execs there have always treated me very well (Zuckerberg walked around Davos with me, while every other journalist was drooling over the opportunity to do that -- he's a lot nicer and smarter than most people give him credit for).
- Robert Scoble
SocialThing got bought by AOL, and it wasn't as good as FF anyway. You could see people's activity, but there was no real interaction. FF is what it is because of the interaction.
- Sam Guzman
Eric & Jason: my new web thingie Grabbit, will do everything Friendfeed does and more, so much more... it's still in alpha, and the beta won't be out until next month... but already the alpha features better Facebook and integration than Friendfeed, IMHO... so, check out grabbit.net and ask to be on the beta list, and we'll keep you posted...
- Fred Davis
@Louis, I'm not going anywhere either. But this acquisition not only scared people that FF might go away but also that their data would go with it. So there is /some/ need for alternatives.
- Jason Huebel
It was called Rejaw, and it was shut down.
- Eric
Fred: can't wait to see more about Grabbit.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Hey dude, I TOTALLY agree with you about Facebook! I've been telling people for a while that I think Facebook is in the process of Yahoo-ing themselves... and that ain't no compliment!
- Fred Davis
FriendFeed family or real family?
- Mona Nomura
FF is crazy to sell. They should've sold to Google, what were they thinking?
- Eric
I think someone needs to create a web dashboard like FF, but that somehow integrates e-mail.
- Sam Guzman
louis i agree with you. i am not going anywhere either. this is the place i love and think is awesome
- (jeff)isageek
Robert, is Paul referencing his FriendFeed family or real family? (not expanding thread - too long)
- Mona Nomura
Mona: real family AND FriendFeed family. They are one and the same if you look at it the right way.
- Robert Scoble
Sam: what do you mean "intergrate email" friendfeed already has email features so it depends on what you mean...
- Chris Clayton
Same here, Jeff. If FF is still around I'm not budging. It it goes FB on us then it's bye-bye.
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Wave is like FF?
- Eric
Sam, got that in Grabbit... email, RSS, blog alerts, news alerts, and more... plus the coolest friend management stuff to help you sort all that out, not just the messages, updates, and alerts...
- Fred Davis
Mona: if you want me to do something for you, talk Maryam into it first. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Fred: Then I am really excited to try it.
- Sam Guzman
Eric: just like the others you mentioned, it has 1 or 2 similar features, but completely different!
- Chris Clayton
and twitter, facebook, friendfeed, etc., of course... we're starting a signup on grabbit.net...
- Fred Davis
I used to use FeedEachOther which was like FF.
- Eric
Chris: Like the friendfeed stream, you could login and see all your friend's activity, but also see your latest e-mails (Could be easily accessed with a sidebar link, like direct messages). By commenting on an e-mail, you could reply. Just like FF direct messages, but it would send a real e-mail response. Does that make sense?
- Sam Guzman
Now there is Google Reader.
- Eric
Google reader is improving, but still has a long way to go. On the social side.
- Bluesun 2600
That's the one thing I've always liked about FriendFeed - the founders (and staff) interacts with the community, as do their family members. The community members were treated like family, too. :) Whatever which way, hopefully Facebook will integrate FriendFeed's functions to carry on the "feel" over there as well. Personally, I have the more the merrier approach! BTW see you Thursday, Robert! Gnomedex sold out!
- Mona Nomura
I'm not up to speed with this discussion, but FB must have bought FF to merge FF tech into FB. FF for everybody, not just Scoble and tech friends.
- Zato Gibson
...would continue as independant application or as zombie inside "failbook"? ;-/
- Claude LaFrenière
Sam: i was actually looking for a way to have the subjects of my emails show up on my friendfeed dashboard awhile ago - do you mean like that? Because that would be awesome!
- Chris Clayton
i would love to see friendfeed get a killer mobile app...maybe improve on fftogo a little more
- (jeff)isageek
Google Reader is my current alternative btw. I've found the share box today and now using it like FF's share box. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Reader is great, but it's not built to replace FriendFeed. It's not an aggregator, for one.
- Louis Gray
one thing is I don't think you can share images from pages as easily as FF's share.
- Bluesun 2600
Life2front has anyone heard of it?
- Eric
Chris: Yes, maybe have a subject show up in your feed, and clicking would expand to reveal the full e-mail. Reply's could be generated by commenting on the e-mail. I'm sure FF won't integrate this, but I'm just throwing it out there. It's something I wish some social service would integrate. Either that, or make e-mail inboxes more social. Kind of like Yahoo e-mails new features, but better executed. How cool would it be to login to your e-mail and be greeted by a FF like social stream.
- Sam Guzman
i think you can look at two services that were bought up and never really changed all this time in flickr and delicous so hey maybe friendfeed stays around as it is...maybe just integrates a bit more or something with facebook
- (jeff)isageek
Well you can put your services into a folder then create a bundle and share it. But no not quite like FF. It lacks a lot of features and Comments view is awful.
- Kol Tregaskes
and look how long google had grand central before they really even started doing anything with it.
- (jeff)isageek
I guess what I'm saying is, don't keep e-mail so separate from the rest of your online social activity. It should be more integrated than it is now, in my opinion. Why not include it in a service like FF?
- Sam Guzman
So Friendfeed stays on as a side project instead of being abandoned. Does that really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? The service isn't going to grow by leaps and bounds either in audience or functionality now. I guess a slow death is easier for people to deal with than a quick one.
- Dare Obasanjo
Sam: i love that idea... email services dont have RSS (not that i can find anyway) i was looking for 5 hours for one afew months ago so i could put it in a private group to show up on my FF stream. but i ended up being dissapointed!
- Chris Clayton
I hope we all converge over to Google Wave and that some clever sod codes a FF-type service built on the Wave protocol. :-) GWave is great fun to use!
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: are you going to send me a download link? :P im still waiting for it from the 'sneak peek' survey i filled out AGES ago!
- Chris Clayton
Whhhhhhat how`d you try it already?
- sofarsoShawn
Dare: there are lots of things that don't get many new features but are still very popular. FriendFeed still has way more features and is better technology than anything else I've seen in the marketplace. Maybe someone will eclipse it, but that won't happen soon and, yes, a slow death is definitely better than a quick one. Why? Cause you can make plans and change your behavior.
- Robert Scoble
Download link for GWave? Don't work like that. ;-) Just wait until 30th September, Chris. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, yeah, and I think what I'm describing would take more than just RSS integration. But Kol is right, maybe Google Wave will be the answer :) I can't wait to try it! Especially if other services can be integrated like in FF.
- Sam Guzman
Kol: but september is too long to wait :( blame scoble for making me a social media addict! :)
- Chris Clayton
Hehe, it will fly by.
- Kol Tregaskes
Robert: if this is just about whether they'll shut off the servers or not then why is this even causing hubbub? Given the complaining of a vocal set of users I'm sure that even if they planned to shut off the site, it'll keep going for a while. However it seems obvious that all their innovative ideas and day time hacking should be filled with innovating on Facebook not here.
- Dare Obasanjo
As both Louis and I have said - these guys have been nothing but actions thus far and haven't let us down. I see nothing changing from that yet, so I suggest everyone continue that trust. They have done nothing to break that trust yet. And like I wrote about, Facebook needs them as much as they need Facebook - Facebook wants to change into something more of what FriendFeed is, from what I've seen and read.
- Jesse Stay
It's not about shutting the servers off for some (most?) folks, it's a matter of how you reconcile FriendFeed and Facebook's views on content licensing, ownership, and privacy; whether we'll continue to see innovation at a pace faster than what Facebook's user base has historically been comfortable with; and whether we'll see a continuation of Friendfeed's openness towards third party developers and the open source community.
- Ken Sheppardson
And as I've said over and over again, Jesse, I think most of us trust the FriendFeed folks as individuals, but that trust doesn't necessarily transfer to Facebook as an institution.
- Ken Sheppardson
I second Ken. Zuckerbergs plans/dreams are also a kind of wild-card here. They could be favorable to us FriendFeed users, or not. Up till now, Zuckerberg hasn't done much favorable for me. That sucks. I wish it were different.
- Meryn Stol
Say what you want about Facebook but Zuckerberg and/or Facebook has revolutionized the Internet by forcing people to be real. (not real-time) It even reflects on Youtube - the commenters aren't as moronic as they were say three years ago, since more and more people are using their real names and identities.
- Mona Nomura
It's always like this and it never turns out the way Paul says it will, though I believe his intentions are honorable. At some point you no longer work for the old company and you start working for the new one. My guess is this has already happened. Soon people from the old team will have their new assignments, and then one day the server will go down. They'll bring it back up, but...
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- Dave Winer
Damn, Dave. And I thought that *I* was a cynic.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I've been through it myself, and been in Paul's position.
- Dave Winer
Dave, I don't doubt that at all. It's just amazing from my perspective to see it put so honestly. Well put, sir.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Only when I was in Paul's position, I had a simpler situation cause we were developing shrinkwrap software and our mission was supposedly unchanged. We didn't have servers that had to be kept up 24-by-7. Even so, six months after the merger, the whole thing was turned upside down and the team had all-new priorities and tons of people had left, including the top guy (me!). I would get...
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- Dave Winer
Well put, Mona!
- Jesse Stay
Dave, I expect it to change, but I also expect that Facebook is doing this for not just the team they just acquired. I think Facebook really wants this technology.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, that may be true but they'll want it for Facebook. And if you're a fan of Facebook, that's great, Facebook's going to get better. But if you're not? If you're a a fan of FriendFeed? Then all you're going to end up with is a bastardized FriendFeed with lots of dipshit apps.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Jesse: I'm not so sure. The technology will need to be rebuilt for the Facebook infrastructure. That's one reason why Paul doesn't have good answers for us yet. He said he needs a few weeks to really dig into Facebook's code base before he even has a good idea of where he and the FriendFeed'ers can really add value.
- Robert Scoble
Akiva, I'm a fan of both. And you know you can ignore those apps - that's not something you can do on FriendFeed or Twitter. FriendFeed would have gotten just as bad as it grew.
- Jesse Stay
Dave: thinking back on why I joined FriendFeed, it was because I expected that the team would do something interesting in the future. That reason has now been fulfilled and now that these guys are at Facebook it'll be interesting to see what they do.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse, where is the button to ignore the apps? I want to ignore all of them, all the time. Instead, I have to click hide on every single bloody one of them and still get notifications from people wanting me to add apps. I'd tolerate Facebook better if there was a magic "no apps, ever" button.
- Rochelle
Somewhat selfishly, I have just gained a whole load of new friends on Fb, here and on Google Reader and have learned loads about sharing and subscribing for which I thank you all :-) I will just watch and wait now, but I do agree that if everyone dashes off somewhere else and deserts FF, it could well hasten its demise. Best to try and use all the services and interlink them if we can.
- Julia Ault
Rochelle: I want you to install the FriendFeed app. :)
- Louis Gray
I am sure that FB was not happy if FF was going into MS hands or Google hands ,they bought it and now they will be the most important live and live search player on top of the best social community,,I am happy for them and for us as well ,they will keep our home and thats great news
- Johni Fisher
Jesse, this is true. I guess my real point is—aside from the easy-as-punch Facebook app snarking—that the very philosophies on which each service was built are essentially different. I'm not saying that these divergent ideas can't be unified. I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. I'm sure the...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
Wish I was a millionaire like him :/
- Mark
"I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. " - very well put, Akiva.
- Meryn Stol
Akiva, who says they will become one site? Why not enable the two communities to remain separate if they want, under the Facebook brand? I don't think we know yet what will happen.
- Jesse Stay
Good news because I love friend feed in it's current format.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, yes, we don't know for sure, but then again we don't know for sure - I don't see reason to change too much of our trust until something actually happens. I do know Facebook wants to open up more, while still retaining your right to privacy. The privacy thing is something FriendFeed (or Twitter) doesn't have, and I think would be a welcome addition.
- Jesse Stay
Rochelle, you have to do it either by app, or individual (unless I've missed the option). That said, I would kill for the ability to do that on FriendFeed or Twitter. They don't even have that.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: FriendFeed doesn't have apps, so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to; if you mean the ability to hide posts aggregated from a particular service, that's already there.
- Tristan Seligmann
Last I checked, Jesse, FriendFeed didn't have MafiaWars or Superpoke.
- Akiva Moskovitz
(If you click on "Hide", and then "hide other items like this one", you get a whole list of options)
- Tristan Seligmann
FriendFeed has a finite number of things to hide ("all items from Bob", "all Flickr posts", etc.). That's much more easy control than the thousands of apps on Facebook. It's like playing whack-a-mole over there. It feels like the more I hide, the more they appear.
- Rochelle
Akiva, Tristan, it's only a matter of time before the auto-dm apps appeared on FriendFeed. So long as FriendFeed grows, they will come. So long as it doesn't grow, it *does* disappear. There's no "hide all from the app that generated this DM" option on FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, and, with all of the hide options already present on FriendFeed, you don't think the devs would have had the presence of mind to include something similar for any supposed FriendFeed apps?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I trust that they'll add that as much as I trust they'll continue to fight for FriendFeed at Facebook.
- Jesse Stay
They don't even need any extra options; you can already hide direct posts based on the application that created them. For example, if you hide this post of Robert's, you'll get the option to hide all posts by iPhone.
- Tristan Seligmann
Jesse, I think no-one doubts that *they* will fight. The question is if they win. They're just employees now.
- Meryn Stol
Again, I'm surprised that my own cynicism—legendary in its own right—is being beaten about the face and neck in this thread.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Meryn, I also know the Facebook team - they're just as competent as FriendFeed's. Their original audience started different than FF's, but they too have to expand.
- Jesse Stay
Holden: engagement.
- Robert Scoble
It's hard for innovators to stop innovating, and for entrepreneurs to lose the total freedom and self-reliance that drives them. Every entrepreneur that I know personally (only a few, alas!) who has sold for the big bucks has eventually gone on to create something else.
- Kathy Fitch
Jesse, as I said earlier, my lack of knowledge on the plans of Zuckerberg is the problem. Do you know Zuckerberg? In the end, he's gonna decide what appears on Facebook or not. Also, it's not so much a matter of competence than it is a matter of vision and taste.
- Meryn Stol
I'm sure the FB engineers are competent.
- Meryn Stol
And wouldn't it be fascinating to have a gander at the kinds of separation agreements folks who leave FB must sign? Almost as interesting as seeing the acquisition agreement in this case.
- Kathy Fitch
It's totally unclear if future conversations we might have on FB will ever be indexable by Google. (or any other search engine) That all depends on Zuckerberg's final say. I can't look in the guy's head.
- Meryn Stol
Sure seems like you're scrambling, Robert, to place yourself in the center of this when you were completely blindsided by the sale. Justs sayin'
- Mattb4rd
Louis, nope! Those are two separate worlds for me and I intend to keep it that way.
- Rochelle
Once you stop owning something you lose the ability to make promises about it. Good intentions or no. One hard headed business decision like FF is not earning its keep or we need the resources elsewhere and it's done. Been on both sides.
- Todd Hoff
The only thing that would make a real difference in this case would be an unambiguous statement from Mark Zuckerberg himself. Let him address the FF community and actually say what he will commit himself to. I suppose he's a man of his word.
- Meryn Stol
Good news. Doin' the right thing!
- Rob Schieber
Yeah sure! Promises Promises!!!
- Jose Luis Santos
Hmm. A whole lot of the sale was in stock options. Takes awhile to get fully vested. The next few years should prove very interesting.
- Kathy Fitch
How can you live up to that promises when you no longer own it?
- John D Reasor
....hmmmm, we got the wrong impression then?
- Mark Essel
Nevermind, I'd feel a helluva lot better with an unattached open social media where I could rely on keeping contacts and connections however weak for as long as I chose to continue using the service.
- Mark Essel
Actions speak louder then words, and the key is the final decision is no longer up to him. I am sure Paul means every word he says I just not sure he is going to be able to keep it.
- Kim Landwehr
I don't expect FF to go away right away. I just expect things will definitely be different. I do hope that FB does improve, but I am also branching out given the sale.
- Kevin Whalen
"Promises are a bourgeois invention and, anyway, they're meant to be broken." [V. I. Lenin quoted from inexact memory] by
- ianf ⌘
@louisgray's »If you see the post I put up last night...« <http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...> If you cared for others to read that post, you'd have included a direct link to it. It's the essence of hypertext, and any "Silicon Valley early adopter, tech geek blogger" worth the name would have done just...
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- ianf ⌘
It would make some business sense to keep FF as some kind of separate site/module, if just to stop another site taking it's place and becoming another competitor.
- Robert Littlejohn
Hi Ian! I get what you are saying, but sometimes, dropping links to my own posts in other people's threads looks like spam. I also believe a good number of people saw it, and know how to get it otherwise. That said, it's right here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Louis Gray
Robert - To say Facebook is more interesting to work for than Google may be a stretch. While Facebook is growing exponentially and has challenges, Google faces HUGE challenges just staying Google ... while exploring new areas of growth. Keeping the index relevant is a big challenge in itself. On the other hand ... the 'FF guys' have worked there already and know how they feel about what direction they wanted to go ... which .. I think ... makes a little more sense?
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie: remember most of this team already worked at Google. Facebook is pre IPO. Google is not. The potential rewards are much larger at Facebook and the potential to have an impact is much larger at Facebook too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Posting links (references) to one's other posts "looks like spam"? That's news to me, and a lame excuse. In any event, given main difference between worlds of analog and digital publishing being ability in the latter case to refer back to source in unambiguous and granular fashion (rather than, as in analog, to indicate issue, chapter, page, verse, line, etc - if at all), not including...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf, I agree, but it feels like spam when you're doing it. Encourage him nicely.
- Bruce Lewis
i suspect that, if FF were to survive relatively unchanged it will be through an open-source effort. i doubt FF will survive as a stand-alone site w/ Fb paying the freight.
- MikeAmundsen
Why don't the FF founders release an official statement saying how long the site will continue and what we can expect if we stay?
- Tomy Thomson
Keep in mind that despite the best intentions, nearly half of all sincere promises end in divorce.
- April Russo (app103)
Robert: I agree that the technology with great audiences don't get killed off, but the name of the game to the shareholders is money. It makes a ton more sense for facebook to integrate friendfeed into facebook, an already monetizable model, vs. leaving it as a de-coupled technology that has to have a new revenue model built for it.
- Erik Boles
like x1000
- Raphael, Raphael
With so much money still on the table in the form of stock options, there's certainly plenty of motivation to make FB stellar. If FF ends up being treated well, too (for whatever reason--a promise, a warm fuzzy feeling, its potential role in helping to make FB stellar), then I'm all for that.
- Kathy Fitch
There is a way to argue keeping FF going makes sense to FB: The important thing in social software ISN'T the software, it's the people who use it. If the people who use FF are sufficiently different to those on FB, then it could make sense to keep both services. Possibly they may end up using the same software, but have different brands. Think of VW group in cars (SEAT/Skoda/VS/Audi are...
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- Nick Lothian
Interesting thread. I think that Paul has the best intention and he will do everything he can to keep the existing service up. Dave Winer has a good summary of the forces he will have to fight against. Making a Facebook vs. Google vs. Microsoft decision was probably a hard one. I am wondering if Twitter was in the race too...Twitter + Friendfeed could have been a great team to go...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
Why the outreach now and not earlier in the week? Has something spooked the FF team? Seeing people looking for alternatives, and poking around Google Reader, Streamy, SocialThing, perhaps? Robert said it himself, if people leave here, FF dies, and the team doesn't have a whole lot to sell to FB (yeah, arguably) and that could scotch the whole deal. So I'm just wondering why the outreach now?
- Dominic Jones
ianf: don't you know, links are dead? ;)
- Tristan Seligmann
read it from the begining, I'm happy FF crew is beginning to acknowledge the questions, Dave definitely has a point, but all-in-all I thought death was near, it looks like it gets delayed for some time. The main thing is ppl are still here although reader is the new playground...unfortunately the communication with their team isn't all that good...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dobromir, "read [297 more comments] from the begining" is not a good advice for anything, least of all here, in the Kingdom of Perpetual Constant Fragmentary Attention Overload, where realtime fly-by comments are the rule.
- ianf ⌘
Robert, thank you for sharing this info. I hope everyone got the message clearly. Wonderful news!
- Michael Fidler
from iPhone
Ok, I hadn't time to read all the comments on this thread. But this sure sounds promising, and I do trust Robert and Louis when they're saying something. So I'm hopeful:)
- Patrik Johansson
It is not whether Friendfeed lives or dies. It's whether our free-wheeling, anarchic, community-driven approach will be replaced by the bland family-oriented guidelines of Facebook. Will we still be able to chuckle of Asian men on a beach, for example?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
hey all, we can't return to the past, what happen has already happened, now the question is this one, may a micro community survive inside a large community, the answer is YES, FF community can and may have the same social behaviour it has here, and when move to FB, we need just to preserve our connections, and to maintain the same behaviour. that all, but even ancients tribes don't survive without scarifying some of their tradition.
- abdellah
Will Friend feed just get - morphed into Facebook now? clearly they want to take on Twitter. I noticed that I tryed to remove my Friend feed from facebook recently because less techy friends complained that I take over there Friend feeds...! But I can't... mmmm
- PRBristolco.uk
FaceFeed. Nom nom nom.
- Marlin Forbes
My goodness, there needs to be a way to search comments...I scanned to see if Paul had chimed in, but didn't see that.
- Chad Gesser
Scobe: I hope he does chime in. I think he needs to since you broke that.
- Chad Gesser
Chad: I think he'll say more after he has a little time at Facebook and can give definitive answers as to what the FriendFeed team is going to do there. He told me that will take several weeks.
- Robert Scoble
no i didnt know that
- Chris Nwakalo
if so wonderful news
- Ronald
Facebook is genuinely interested in best in class customer experience. I can't yet envision what features or practices are incorporated or left behind, but it seems a positive move for users. There is always a die-hard loyal following that doesn't want to see their Freind (feed) go away. Heck, I still record The West Wing on Bravo.
- Jeff Marmins
Yeah i sure hope so robert. . i really rather not be on facebook.
- RamirezG
Chad, to aid in scanning, you can do a Ctrl-F (or equivalent) and search the current page for "- Paul Buchheit" and/or install my user script that adds a mini avatar to the beginning of each comment http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
Scoble, why do you think FriendFeed won't get sacrificed by Facebook management? Most sensible thing, to me, is to get FriendFeed integrated as a feature of Facebook, then eliminate the individual brand. Fact is, it's Facebook's decision at this point, unless the FriendFeed guys got something in writing to the contrary (which likely didn't happen). Sometimes you've got to go with your...
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- Jason Nunnelley
Jason: it doesn't really matter. I've been on Facebook all morning and they already have a lot of FriendFeed's features. Soon the rest will be moved over too. And the servers won't get turned off anytime soon, based on conversations with FriendFeed and Facebook. So, for now, use it and be happy. Me? I've already been spreading out my social networking time just in case.
- Robert Scoble
and before he disappears into a part of the web that I can't find.....how do you say his last name? Boo-Kite? Buck-heat? Really, I don't know and I wanna know. Just so I know, You know?
- Morgan Haley
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ah, the time before my exodus, ty for sharing, :) (i left the internet for @ 10yrs, just coming back online Jan of this year = my "exodus," :)
- chaz2b
Usain Bolt's 9.58 at world championships shatters 100-meter record (ESPN) — un.be.lieve.able! - http://sports.espn.go.com/oly...
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all kinds of wow. video - http://www.youtube.com/watch.... finally showed what he can if runs through the tape. wow.
- chrisofspades
Is he real? Wow!
- Michelle
I think Tyson Gay ran a really really good race - 9.71 is really really fast, I think it might even be the fastest non-Usain time. I really liked Usain's press conference before the races though, where he said 'I just wanna run, ya know? I can't wait 'til Saturday'. He's a freak. You don't just take .11 off the 100. Nobody since it's gone under 10s has taken off more then 0.05s on the previous record.
- Will Higgins™
unbelievable.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@Will ...to put this race in perspective: Tyson Gay's 9.71 is the second-fastest 100m time EVER... and he wasn't even close. http://bit.ly/1QXzkm
- .LAG liked that
9.71 is actually the 3rd fastest...Bolt ran a 9.69 before.
- chrisofspades
Chris... right, right. I meant that -- if Bolt wasn't in the race today, a race where he ran the fastest time and broke his own record -- Gay's 9.71 would be the second fastest time ever ...semantics, I know. ;-P
- .LAG liked that
He has to be on Steroids. When Ben Johnson ran 9.79 everyone said he was what about Usain Bolt. I am not saying what he did was not amazing but the relity is he took something somewhere.
- Rob Cairns
@RobCairns ...drug-testing is pretty rigid in track-and-field these days... but then, in these times, nothing will surprise us.
- .LAG liked that
right LAG. Tyson probably didn't wake up this morning thinking, "if I run a 9.71, I'll get smoked."
- chrisofspades
Chris... and yet, amazingly, he DID!
- .LAG liked that
this man is super and unbelivable run run run
- SERKAN GÜNEL
Eh, rob these days you can't trust anybody, that said, -- I don't trust those other guys and he's STILL smoking the field like it's nothing. What we're seeing is incredible
- Richard Lawler
Bolt is awesome...amazing speed and he's a riot.
- Jeunelle Foster
Amazing. He just obliterated the old record. Not even close. And he's got some showman in him too. Great for the sport.
- Hutch Carpenter
amazing.
- mjc
You have to feel a little sorry for Tyson Gay. I do think it's a good thing though that American track has been served a big fat slice of humble pie recently, as sometimes the attitudes of the athletes can be excessive. @Jeunelle - Seeing Usain win just makes you happy, doesn't it! And it's obvious that he really enjoyed winning yesterday, his 'Superman' pose was especially emphatic.
- Will Higgins™
And LAN: The wikipedia page has been vandalized. Aditya Dabas apparently ran a 9.48 yesterday at the Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, India. It's true. Fixed now.
- Will Higgins™
Gay's Personal Best prior was a 9.77, so he shaved 0.06 seconds off his PB. THAT is a great performance.
- Will Higgins™
@Willl....I usually root for the underdog and hell yes it makes me happy when I see someone from the poorest regions of the earth suck it to America. Roflmao Why should America have all the fame and glory? Don't we ALL strive to be great too? :)
- Jeunelle Foster
He's either on steroids - which seems unlikely to me - or Bolt is a mutant. :)
- Bill Sodeman
Bill if he was on drugs at that speed he would have a heart attack and collapse already. Now he may have smoked some weed and inhaled as any Jamaican would but I strongly doubt he's on drugs :)
- Jeunelle Foster
How long can records in these races keep on falling? It's just amazing.
- Kathy Fitch
Tyson wouldn't have probably run 9.71 if Bolt wasn't there ahead of him. Sprinters normally do better when there's someone ahead of them. You see a lot of personal bests for sprinters/swimmers who end up at no 2.
- Nikhil Dandekar
@Nikhil ...that's a good point. and maybe with Bolt competing, we'll start to see average times of the world's top sprinters start to drop as they train with him in their sights. i think he can probably go faster. he's already broken the WR three times in the last few years.
- .LAG liked that
@Kathy: They said on TV yesterday that an University (can't remember the name) released a study saying that the limit for a human being is to run 100 meters in 9.29 seconds. We'll see if he gets there. ;)
- Alejandro
UNREAL - THE TOURNAMENT
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Usain "Lightning" Bolt: man or machine?
- Dennis Jernberg
Usain: the quickest man of the world... impressive!! http://www.foldier.com/items...?
- Luca
Wow, that's fast!
- Mike Reynolds
LAG, most definitely he can go faster. he's only 22, and an athlete's prime is 25-28 or so, which is about the age other sprinters were breaking records.
- chrisofspades
The Flash!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
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Hieronomous Bosch here we come!
- StockC
nice.
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Paris pool bans Muslim woman in 'burqini' swimsuit - http://www.breitbart.com/article...
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"A Paris swimming pool has refused entry to a young Muslim woman wearing a "burqini," a swimsuit that covers most of the body, officials said Wednesday. The pool ban came as French lawmakers conduct hearings on whether to ban the burqa after President Nicolas Sarkozy said the head-to-toe veil was "not welcome" in secular France. Officials in the Paris suburb of Emerainville said they let the woman swim in the pool in July wearing the "burqini," designed for Muslim women who want to swim without revealing their bodies. But when she returned in August they decided to apply hygiene rules and told her she could not swim if she insisted on wearing the garment, which resembles a wetsuit with built-in hood."
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Ugh, speedos allowed in france but people who cover up not?
- Steve C
"hygiene rules"? Yeah, right.
- Andrew C
how's a banana hammock more hygienic than a full body unitard? stupid argument
- Felicia Yue
Is it wrong for me to feel a certain sense of betrayal? I didn't spend all my time here making connections, adding in interesting content and trying to get friends to join so that friendfeed would get acquired by Facebook.
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I guess I should be glad that I made a bunch of new friends here and have learned a lot, but I just wish that the guys at friendfeed hadn't sold out to a company that doesn't really need what friendfeed has.
- Alex Scoble
I think betrayal is the word of the day around here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
EXACTLY!
- Kandeezie
Damn. Just heard.... Not sure what I think yet, but I worry about the openness of my info and postings.
- Mark Aitken
You guys amuse me.
- Cristo
Meh
- Andrew Roche
Whatever, Chris, I'm not amused.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
@Alex: I completely agree... and I haven't been and won't ever be on Facebook...
- Harold
not wrong at all. I actually feel a little hurt.
- Jim Addz No Value
Yeah, I think betrayed is a good description...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
But let's be honest, they built this to make money and survive. Gotta say I'm pleased it's shown to be worth something, and I'm guessing a significant something for FB to acquire them. Wonder if they were offered shares in FB as part of the deal?
- Mark Aitken
I guess we are all betrayed - in certain terms.. but FB should have done its market research before it got this property. Most of the USERS are not happy with FB type of connections or that property , so we left and looked for something better, it was FF. Now a new hunt will begin !
- Peter Dawson
I think a lot of us feel betrayed.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
What did you do it for then?
- George F. Snell III
I think it's too soon to feel betrayed. This interview made me feel a lot better about the whole deal: http://bit.ly/PReef
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
actually, you kinda did. if users like you didn't create so much value, Facebook wouldn't have acquired (notwithstanding feelings of betrayal).
- jeffscott
Yeah. That's excatly how I feel.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Throws a sheep at Alex... Yeah, that wasn't much fun.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
I share your sentiments in many ways. I have been proud to tell others who had no idea that FF existed how good it is (lets hope not was!) Lets hope they keep the spirit alive. By the way the minute I see any target 'phorm' style advertising, I am off to find a new up and coming. I wont run to Tumblr yet but I do have one foot in already, just in case.
- Kevin J Hatton
My immediate reaction was Facebook will push ads onto their users. I think FriendFeed could be seriously screwed up with live moving ads, so that's hopefully out of the picture from a purely usability view. Friendfeed is all about realtime web information. I then wonder how in that case will the monetise the relationship. My guess? Facebook will show live conversations and hopefully they will rip out the poor IM implementation in Facebook. The purchase may be nothing more sinister, I hope...
- Mark Aitken
Feeling a bit of betrayal, or unhappiness atleast. Have a Facebook account but rarely use it since it's a walled garden. Preferred Friendfeed for better technology, organization, but even more so it's openness!
- LonelyBob
Betrayed is a strong word, but I do feel a loss of ownership. And it's not like I really 'owned' the community, or the content I put into it. All the same, I contributed, and the more a person contributes to something, the more they feel a sense of entitlement (?) or ownership. Now it's as if I've had someone just pull a rug out from under me.
- cecily
I don't give 2 cents if that's wrong or not but I feel betrayed.
- vijay
Peter, I doubt FB gives a crap about FF users. FB wanted the talent that worked at FF, not the product.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I understand the sentiment, but this is the way of tech apps;.nothing stays the same for long. Feeling betrayed is not gonna change anything. Either you roll with the changes and try to force the positive, or you quit.
- Rene Wirtz
I agree with Cecily that betrayal is a strong word. I have always understood that FriendFeed is a free service, thus I can't claim control over it. Though, really, I wonder what s going to happen to my thousands of likes, comments, posts, etc.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
:-) + :-(
- Majento
Completely concur with you Alex. Just goes to show maybe there is room for another platform...
- Arleen Anderson
As I said elsewhere, this was a talent + buzz acquisition. I sorta wish I could download my FF history and host it on my own server with SweetCron or something.
- Anthony Citrano
+1 Alex. EndFeed's the word... well, how about everybody grieves for 5 minutes, then gets the search for greener pastures under way. There was plenty to be improved about FriendFeed (been saying that since well before this announcement), so I just hope that someone else has the databasing/real-time wherewithal to build something like this, improved.
- Alex Schleber
Facebook doesn't even give a crap about their own users
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Do any of these sites give a crap though Alex? I understand what you are saying and how it makes you feel this way, but I realised a long time ago.. they are ALL businesses and the bottom line is NO they don't give a crap... because they are NOT depending on you to be ok..
- Rob Sellen :o)
friendfeed at least acted as though they gave a crap...at least until today. And there's nothing about being a business that says "crapping on your customers is OK". Business is business does not equal "screw your customers to make a buck".
- Alex Scoble
from IM
That and stunned. Lately I've been describing Friendfeed to the uninitiated as "a facebook without all the crap." Unfortunately, it looks like now it'll just be integrated into all the crap, if kept at all. That said, congratulations to the FF team - this is a big win for them and they deserve a lot of kudos. I look forward to the web apps they come up with in the future.
- Chris Rogers
"Is it wrong for me to feel a certain sense of betrayal?" - in an emotional sense, no. In a literal sense, yes, unless you can show me where FriendFeed made a commitment to you that they'd never change in a way that didn't fit your ideals for the service.
- Edward Coffey
i'm just hoping they will keep friendfeed separate and use it as a testing ground for new features.
- Edgar Rodríguez
They made a commitment to us when they built a service that wasn't called Facebook or Twitter. They made a commitment to us when they listened to our feedback and participated in our feeds. They made a commitment to us with their actions. A commitment that has been forever shattered with their deal with the internet equivalent of the devil.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Lindsey is right.. the thing is Alex... friendfeed is STILL here... ;o) YOU are still here...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Not for long, Rob. I give friendfeed a year tops.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And forget about any improvements to the site. You know that the team will be much too busy trying to figure out what the next iteration of Facebook should look like.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yep , definitely a sense of foreboding there ... "for the time being"
- Tom Horn
I can empathize with these sentiments, but Social Media is a set of tools--I appreciate the connections I make, but I'm not getting too emotionally worked-up about the tools changing.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
why? friendfeed.com is not going anywhere is it... no reason this place couldn't stay.. what if they LOCKED friendfeed users in now.. said.. we WILL reward you users for helping us, testing things for us etc... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob...did you not notice who bought them? Facebook is known for doing dick for their users.
- Alex Scoble
Absolutely not Alex, I feel the same way. About 18 months' collection of content, great friends, an open community all gone. We now are marched into an atmosphere of censorship and walled relationships where users don't amount to a hill of beans. Really, really sucks.
- jcunwired
I'm sure FF is going away one way or another; there's no way that the combined company is going to keep developing full steam ahead on both products. Is it wrong to feel betrayed? I don't know. I don't personally feel betrayed, but I guess I'm not nearly as invested in FF as you and others are. I do think the end result may be something positive though; the ability to interact with the larger FB community on this level is something that could be truly wonderful. Then again, it might just end in tears...
- Tristan Seligmann
Especially when we consider that while they built the tools, we as a community are what made it great - both with our usage, our dedication and our regular feedback to make the site better. As I said before, its our fault FB even looked this way.
- jcunwired
"...internet equivalent of the devil" - ohh-kayy...*backs away slowly*
- Edward Coffey
betrayal isn't the word i feel. it's just business. i do agree with Anthony Citrano: I wonder if there's a way to pull all of my stuff out of FF and put it on my own machine. the year I've spent here, and the 2+ years on Twitter and FB, have been to the detrimiment of my own writing and content creation. The thing about all social media is they depend on users to fill their cyber-vessels with content, and then they make a living off of that...but it's pretty difficult for you to reclaim your "stuff" later.
- .LAG liked that
If Google's motto is "do no evil" then Facebook's motto is "do whatever we want to our customers, even when it makes absolutely no sense"...yeah, I'd consider that to be bordering on evil.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I did Alex.. Facebook sucks in many ways, they treat users like shit... BUT does this deal mean the actual end of frienfeed.com < the domain etc... what about if this place is used like a testing place and kept here? who knows?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Ironic that! ToS & privacy & UCG & bandwidth & yet how much of that can be measured without actuarial measurements of packet flow? Not surprised based on much of the commentary the past 18 months. Attribution & authenticity matters.
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Get this out of your system soon, before time runs out :) https://friendfeed.com/jcunwir...
- jcunwired
I think betrayal is appropriate - the FB community is NOT the FF community. Even if they make it better, or build something completely new, they will at some point shut down or gut what they have here.
- Jennifer Dittrich
As long as my stuff is still indexed, I don't really care. I love Facebook - and I love watching my real friends interact with my Internet friends. :)
- Mona Nomura
FWIW TXT is a bigger "content" biz than music, movies, games combined ... Yet this was not a predictable exit? Come on ... Said many times - what is a fair split for UCG & those that skim the packet flow?
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Betrayal is definitely appropriate. So is apprehension and a little bit of anger.
- Mike Lewis
I feel the same way! I'm glad I'm not alone in that feeling. I have facebook I don't like it as much I like FF.
- Anna Lynn M.
I don't feel betrayed. I am, however, worried. And I know people will jump all over me and say that I am a fool for thinking that anything online can stay hidden. I wasn't naive enough to think I'd never be found, but I take steps to try to head that off. I don't use my full name, I don't link certain social sites to the blog, I don't let the blog be indexed, etc. And now, with one...
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- pea
I wouldn't worry about Facebook integrating your FriendFeed content into Facebook; that doesn't seem very likely to me.
- Tristan Seligmann
I feel you, Alex, and dread what is to come. But at the same time, seeing the reported terms of the deal, I don't think I would have turned it down either.
- Michael W. May
Alex - Think you'd have to agree (despite the fact we don't know everything) that they were smart. On the other hand, it's pretty obvious you're not alone in your sentiments (Funny - posted this to Robert's stream first by boo-boo :)
- Charlie Anzman
Alex, I feel your pain - but someone was going to acquire FriendFeed. It was inevitable. I'm just glad Facebook didn't buy Twitter.
- Bill Sodeman
I would rather that Google bought friendfeed and Facebook acquired Twitter. That would have been justice. This...this is a travesty.
- Alex Scoble
So would I alex..but it never happened..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Do you think Microsoft finish the job and eat Facebook?
- τorƍue
:(
- Martha
pea brings up an interesting point - pseudonymity is allowed by FF, disallowed by Facebook.And what of the FF groups?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
τorƍue, or worse - Oracle buying out Facebook. hehe
- imabonehead
follow the money
- L Stephen Cleary
I love the way FriendFeed works, I hate Facebook interfaces. I wish there was another FriendFeed-like service to jump to.
- Amit Morson
I've never found Facebook to be intuitive, and I just enjoyed the manner of connecting here. Not sure what to feel now.
- Rick Cogley
I don't think it's wrong to feel betrayed. If Facebook bought Twitter, honestly I would feel the same way. I think they're going to shutter the store here, which is kind of sad, but we'll see....
- matt singley
My fears are threefold. I fear unavoidable unwanted integration. I fear the addition of the awful Facebook TOS, and I fear the loss of the community. That last one is the big one.
- Joe Pierce
Joe, perhaps FB may change their TOS...
- Bill Sodeman
my sense of betrayal is so strong that I made this --->- http://bit.ly/A0jWq
- vijay
It's all about the money, It's all about the dum dum didudumdum, I don't think it's funny...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Bill, that is a nice thought but it is very doubtful. It would solve a lot of the problem I have with them if they did though. I seriously just don't want to lose the awesome community that has built up here. I mean without FF how would I keep up with Alex, its not like I live in the same town....oh wait /stalkermodeactivate!
- Joe Pierce
If you find any decent asylum, Ryo, please check a room for me, as well, please.
- Zackatoustra
from email
Guess we didn't read the Terms of Service carefully enough. :-(
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I wish it was Twitter, Google, even Yahoo but not Facebook.
- Jacque
Yes, it stings like a ...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Would you have not spent all the time here (etc...) if you were told that this is a start-up business and could get acquired at any time? Or could run out of money and shut down at any time? At least you had a chance to make the connections and share/consume that content...for free. Looks like you're better off than you were before you joined, no?
- Mohamed J
Yes, that's probably an accurate way to describe it, a sense of betrayal. Of course, we're not paying money to use this good service though we are paying time and good will, so it can be argued I suppose that FF did not betray us. I'm feeling upset myself, because I have never liked FB much. I did not want to be on there but got invited by old friends. I don't like the walled garden...
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- Rick Cogley
Rick: +1
- imabonehead
I am agree :(
- Janice
I especially feel crappy because I evangelized FF aggressively among my friends, most of whom are on Facebook.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
To Alex Schleber: if you build it, we will come. Seriously, what Rick Cogley said too - I love that I can interact with almost anyone, not just people I'd interact with anyway and, in my case, have known forever. I love that it's like a small, really fun cocktail party with your friends, some of their friends, and a few strangers - as opposed to a convention (or, for me, a high school reunion!). Sad.
- Amy℠
It's not wrong to feel betrayed, but everyone has their price - sadly.
- David Jagger
The way the transaction was done is a betrayal of trust. Facebook can buy FF but not the trust of FF users. How much user pay for FF pay? Nothings? The time we invest in this application worth somethings unless you consider users of FF like shit.... Who care that crew of morons (FF users)? Just sell FF and move them like potatoes, right? Wrong! Trust can't be bought even with $50 Millions FriendFeed? Call it FailFriend. :S
- Claude LaFrenière
Yeah, Claude, it's definitely a trust thing.
- Rick Cogley
I've examined the emotional reaction of Alex (and others) to the announcement http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009...
- John E. Bredehoft
Facebook says... "NOM, NOM, NOM!!!"
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This makes me weep.
- Brad Williamson
Why is everyone reacting so violently? You have no idea how it'll play out.
- Gus
Because, thanks to FriendFeed's inability to give a single clue as to what's up, the only thing we can do at this point is freak the eff out.
- Brad Williamson
Is that really all you can do?
- Gus
Yeah, a lot of things are being kept quiet, and I don't think that the original FriendFeed will stay the same. Chances are that it will either be changed to the point where we don't like it, or just removed completely--but with FriendFeed's real-time and search features implemented into Facebook. It's a big win if you want Facebook to become more like FriendFeed, but bad if you like FriendFeed itself.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Is everyone a prophet these days? sheesh...
- Gus
I like this!
- Eduardo
FB took the people behind FF and plenty of users are not terribly confident that FF will continue to be developed or maintained as it has been in the past.
- Joe Silence
If you want to know how the FB acquisition of FF will turn out, look at Google's acquisition of Feedburner. Feedburner is still a very useful service, but it innovation stopped once it was bought, and you can no longer get questions answered.
- ComicList
Comic: All they will commit to is not shutting down FF in the "near-future," or "near-term," or however it was phrased. FF is going to go away, so I don't think that analogy will hold -- this situation is even worse than that.
- Christopher A Carr
ComicList: the question is - how many services have facebook acquired? google aquired alot and learnt through trial and error what the best practice is - facebook hasnt had that expirience yet!
- Chris Clayton
make me sad
- 阿石
THIS IS EXCITING!! the only reason i joined FF in the first place!!
- Ann Okafor
@Ann - it may be exciting for you who have invested no time in FF to see it consumed but for those of us who've actually participated and cultivated friendships and relationships here, it is quite disappointing.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I'm going to kick in the crotch anyone else that uses "it's just business", to excuse the bad antisocial behavior of a business.
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Can you record the convo between yourself and your brother about this?? Cuz I would like to hear that argument :)
- Tim Hoeck
I was about to say the same thing, but regarding those saying people are only pissed because FF won't be the underdog anymore.
- Matthew Horton
LOL Tim
- Uncle CW™
And I will also give the old crotchkick to someone saying "They have to make money somehow." Whatever.
- Jim Addz No Value
well, depends what youre talking about..
- Terry O'Fee
you think this deal is antisocial??
- Terry O'Fee
This deal is EXTREMELY antisocial...they are giving the finger to their two million customers...it doesn't' get much more antisocial than that.
- Alex Scoble
Alex - It's free and you chose to adopt it just like I did. That's emotion posting ... not the Alex Scoble I know. (Covering important parts ..... )
- Charlie Anzman
it is the foolish internet business that doesn't take into account the emotional reactions of its core user base.
- Jim Addz No Value
customers??
- Terry O'Fee
"it's just business" :)
- Oğuz Serdar
i'd be pissed if i had some kind of subscription or something, but yeah it's free. who knows, this could make this better, with more people adopting better ideas into it..
- Terry O'Fee
Oh, no...this is the real me just as much as the "more rational" me.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
/me kicks Oguz in the groin
- Alex Scoble
from IM
It's just a business decision Alex. Companies are formed primarily to create wealth.
- Cristo
Let's see, I have 47,000+ likes, 27,000+ comments, almost 2000 subscribers and like 1600 subscriptions...I FUCKING was subscribed here...this site goes away (AND it is going away, that much I'm sure of) and all that work goes poof. So yeah, to me it is a big fucking deal. I spent a lot of time here. I in effect worked for free for friendfeed for a year and what did I get for it? I got screwed as did all of you.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
/me VIOLENTLY kicks Chris in the naughty bits.
- Alex Scoble
Any business formed primarily to create wealth gets what it deserves.
- Alex Scoble
I haven't seen any customers around here. Bunch of freeloaders, yes, but no customers.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Just because a company is giving away its product for free doesn't automatically make its customers freeloaders.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Alex, are you sure that your this site will go away? I think you seem a bit prejudiced about acquisition.
- Oğuz Serdar
Alex, I'm sure you will find someone out there to pay for your valuable content. *was wearing an athletic cup* :)
- Cristo
As sure as sure gets for the human brain. friendfeed is on its deathbed.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, so what *should* have FriendFeed done? Just curious.
- mikepk
Alex is heading into a depression.
- Cristo
Figured out a way to make a viable business, preferably without selling out if possible, or at least making a deal with someone who would care about the customer base.
- Alex Scoble
Akiva, no, not automatically. But a product that no one feels is worth paying for will likely cease to be a product after a while, no?
- mikepk
Let me put this a different way: Facebook's customers are its advertisers, not its users. Facebook's users are its audience. Big difference.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I'm actually finding myself agreeing with Alex here.
- Mattb4rd
Guess my important parts are safe ... thanks pal :)
- Charlie Anzman
Yes, that excuse is garbage; doing things that are "just business" is a great way to lose your business. Unfortunately, FriendFeed doesn't need to care anymore.
- Tristan Seligmann
Alex, figuring out a way to make a viable business is *extremely* hard. Twitter hasn't done it, Facebook hasn't done it, just saying it's possible doesn't mean it's easy. I know I'm going to get kicked in the nards for it, but this was absolutely the right thing for them to do. The other options are to try and raise even more capital and swing for even bigger valuations (like Twitter and Facebook), all the while diluting their own control and owenership and making a likely happy ending less and less likely.
- mikepk
It's easy to say 'business' is a garbage excuse when it's not your money or money from investors your accountable to. Since no one wants to pay for service, and ads are a collapsing market, and no one's found a serious monetization strategy that seems to work more often than not. I would argue it would be irresponsible to not have entertained this offer.
- mikepk
"Business" is a garbage excuse...especially when it's made at the COMPLETE AND UTTER expense of the customers that got you where you are today.
- Alex Scoble
Next time you should choose a social networking site that ends in .org
- Cristo
Next time I'll wait for Google to build a social media site
- Alex Scoble
from IM
just wait until Facebook runs out of cash. then you'll see some pissed off people.
- Nathan Rein
I'm going to bet Facebook goes public within the next year.
- Cristo
I seriously doubt Facebook or Youtube will ever turn a profit. I also notice that it's really easy to create a Wordpress blog on pretty much any web host.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason: Facebook already has $500 million a year in revenues. It is already doing very well.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Since when does revenue = profit? How many people do they employ again?
- Jason Wehmhoener
something like 800 + 14 now... and facebook will turn a profit... eventually... remember amazon?
- Chris Heath
Comparing Amazon, a place where people actually buy something, to Facebook, a place where nobody buys anything? Hmm...
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I love you Alex, but I agree with Terry on this one.
- Steve C
I completely agree. How hard is it to show some professionalism in business?
- Oscar M. Cantu
Advertising revenue trends do look promising http://www.iab.net/media... but I agree that comparing Amazon to Facebook is apples and oranges.
- Jason Wehmhoener
At least Facebook has much lower headcount than Yahoo. If Yahoo can stay afloat (sort of) I suppose Facebook should be able to.
- Jason Wehmhoener
i'm comparing the two in the sense that it sometimes takes a long time for a company to reach profitability, but once they cross over from the red into the black... watch out
- Chris Heath
Yogi says "hi"
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OMGZ I am being critically hit for 1201 Cute Damage!
- Geoff Schultz
holy crap. if only they stayed that small and cute.
- ::Kristen::
they are amazingly tiny. I feel really bad that they didn't get to stay with their mom longer, but we're going to do our best to take good care of them until they find forever homes
- Bren -- feeling merry
Way. Too. Cute. I want another kitty :)
- Penny
So cute!
- Vicki
O HAI YOGI!
- Steven Perez
Hey Hey Yogi!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Yogi is so sweet I just got diabetes!
- BEX
I liked that part where Yogi said "hi". :)
- Chris Luckhardt
Batman Cinema: Looking Past Christian Bale - http://www.inquisitr.com/28299...
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Pixar Confirms Monsters Inc Sequel | /Film - http://www.slashfilm.com/2009...
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"Mike Wazowski!"
- Dan Hsiao
from Bookmarklet
That'll make a lot of kids and adults happy. :)
- James Stratford
Hooray! My mom just asked me last week why they hadn't done a Monsters Inc sequel. She'll be happy!
- Felicia Yue
I wonder if Pixar would have done a Monsters sequel (or any sequels for that matter) if they hadn't been acquired by Disney.
- Jess Lee
Yay! Boo!
- ♥patricia♥
I <3 Boo! ^_^ What a cutie! By the way, will she be in the sequel? Curious to know what the story will be and which characters will return.
- April Buchheit
Jess - they did Toy Story 2 before being acquired. They've always said they weren't averse to sequels if they had a really great story to tell. And finally, Disney may have purchased Pixar but it seemed to me that it was so that Pixar could "take over" Disney animation and not the other way around. So in other words, maybe/maybe not :-).
- invariant - farewell FF
YESSSSS!!!!!!
- Jeannie Choi
YAY! I LOVE THIS!
- joey
Cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
w00t!
- David Cook
:D
- WorldofHiglet
It's been my favorite Pixar movie to date. I hope the sequel doesn't do something stupid with the lovely characters.
- Aaron D'Souza
Great movie for all ages. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Gonna be hard to top the original :)
- Bwana ☠
invariant - I sort of vaguely thought that they did Toy Story 2 because it was Disney's IP and Disney was going to do a sequel (straight to video) with or without Pixar.
- Andrew C
@Andrew C - That's how I read it in the book "The Pixar Touch". It was sort of a threat that Disney was going to do it by themselves and Lasseter came back and took over.
- Andrew Smith
I really hope this is done in Pixar's soon-to-be Vancouver studio and I have *anything* to do with it.
- Andrew Smith
But Pixar said the Vancouver studio would be for shorts. Ain't nothing wrong with that, "Partly Cloudy" was terrific.
- Andrew C
Casablanca vs. The Big Lebowski - http://www.flickchart.com/397A5ED...
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I think I'll probably choose Casablanca on this one. And I think The Dude would probably let that one slide and still be cool...I think.
- Joe Pierce
Lebowski. I think Casablanca's story is boring, but it's a pretty movie.
- Admiral Anika
lebowski. casablanca was some other generation's movie. this one's mine!
- docrivs
Casablanca really isn't my favorite of the classics but I've always enjoyed it quite a bit. One of the things I like about it is the slower pace. I'm weird like that. I could pretty much watch it any time. Lebowski, even though I do love it, I have to be in the mood for.
- Joe Pierce
Casablanca. :) One of my top five or ten of all time.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Jandy, I think your top ten and my top ten would be quite different but many of the years would intersect...assuming I was decisive enough to come up with a top ten list and not having it be 35 or more.
- Joe Pierce
Love them both. Agreed, the slow pace of Casablanca is what gives it its feel. But for me Lebowski's a top 5 movie.
- Jeremy Thompson
Big Lebowski.
- Kol Tregaskes
Casablanca
- RAPatton
Ain't no question about this in my mind. The BIG Lebowski
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Someone make a movie stat with The Dude taking Bogarts place in Cassablanca. I'd pay 10 bucks for that movie.
- Steve C
If they remake Casablanca, I'm swearing off movies for ever and ever.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The Dude.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Walter, WTF man!
- Bryan R. Adams
this agression... will not stand... man
- docrivs
I've got to go with Casablanca. I first saw it a few years ago in a film class, and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It's one of my favorite movies now.
- Tom Small
Casablanca
- Lu Liu
CASABLANCA.
- Steven Perez
Sorry, dude. Casablanca abides.
- James (!?)
Obviously you're not a golfer.
- Stewart Heys
that's right. nobody f*ks with the jesus
- docrivs
My new 2010 Prius - http://ourdoings.com/roberts...
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The new Priuses are in. I got one of the first three that got into this dealer (Marin Toyota). I test drove it. Tons of geek toys. The lane keep assist is a trip (uses a camera to keep you in the lane and wakes you up with an alarm if you go out of bounds).
- Robert Scoble
Congratulations
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Did you get the solar panels with it?
- imabonehead
looks nice
- Alfredo
Awesome, looks good
- Billy Fung
You didn't get the solar roof thingee?
- Derrick
Guess you decided not to get a Model S? The new Prius is a really nice vehicle.
- Ben Kessler
we are about to buy one too!
- Loic Le Meur
congrate
- Amir
such mixed feelings robert - happy for you to get something new that you are excited about, but bummed that you bought a new car instead of a used one... course I still want a ride. :)
- Jeremy Toeman
SO jeals! ^_^ drove a 2008 prius not too long ago and was pleasantly surprised: a great car ~ congrats!
- Kayce Maisel
I'm jealous!
- Kate
Derrick: the solar roof isn't available on top of the line.
- Robert Scoble
Congratulations. Do you know if you can put 3 car seats in the back?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Scoble: Have you checked out the Ferrari and lamborghini hybrids...LOL - http://kensingtonvictoria.com/...
- Mike Bracco
Nice!
- Anna Lynn M.
heads up, the batteries in that vehicle do a tremendous amount of harm to the environment when it comes time to dispose of them & the amount that you save at the pump is also going to end up going towards the cost of replacement batteries at a future date, you should have really purchased a Jetta TDI they get around the same milage and you have to deal with fewer downfalls & you can even run biodiesel in if you like
- Dave T
from IM
WOW... after that comment, I could just about write anything here :)
- Fred Garrett
you don't plan to use the "lane keep assist" to help you do emails on your iphone do you?
- Marcel LeBrun
Solar panels FTW! My next car after my current lease is up with be a hybrid. I'm sure we'll make great strides in hybrid and battery technology in the next 2 years.
- Alex Knight
@Dave T Volkswagens are known to be horribly unreliable cars, while Toyotas (including the Prius) have proven reliability.
- Ben Kessler
Dave: we better learn to deal with recycling batteries.
- Robert Scoble
What about nuclear powered fuel cells for vehicles?
- Alex Knight
The battery issue is such a myth. They know exactly how to recycle the batteries in to new ones.
- Alex Scoble
Cool!
- Mitchell Tsai
Does anyone know if the 2010 Prius has improved suspension?
- Alex Knight
Does the lane keep assist, keep the new one out of the fast lane?
- Fred Garrett
Robert, you said the solar panel wasn't available on the top model? What model is it available on?
- Alex Knight
Alex: yes, improved definitely but it is no BMW.
- Robert Scoble
Well that much is obvious. As long as it's more interesting to drive. The old ones are pretty squishy.
- Alex Knight
A wind powered turbine that spins and creates reusable energy to power things in your car would be cool. Could mount it in front facing vents sucking in mass amounts of air when you drive.
- Alex Knight
Looks great. Now you just need to lower it and change the rims :P
- Arnold Aranez
Lowering the car will improve handling, but may affect fuel economy.
- Alex Knight
Alex: the solar roof is available on some of the top models but not on ones with the advanced technology package.
- Robert Scoble
It's a nice car with nice gadgets, but I just can't get excited about them.
- Mo Kargas
What Mo said.
- Derrick
I'm jealous, mine's still on order - I probably won't get mine for at least another month. I have driven it and I agree: it definitely drives better than a Gen2.
- Paul Wilcox
Mo: gas prices are going up again. Makes me more excited. It is no Camaro in the looks department.
- Robert Scoble
That sounds like a car for me: "wakes you up with an alarm if you go out of bounds", 'cuz I'm always sleeping while I'm driving. No reazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
- Robert J Taylor
@Robert Yeah I know and I can see I'll have to buy one soon myself, I just feel Toyota has descended into a 'whitegoods' era of totally unexciting vehicles/appliances. Great at being just cars, but no passion/excitement or style for me. I quite liked the Supra, wouldn't mind one of those as a hybrid
- Mo Kargas
@Mike Bracco, LOL, nice...
- Amit Morson
Mo: the geek toys are very cool. Maryam hates the styling too (she likes the new Prius a lot more.
- Robert Scoble
Cute. Do they make those for men also?
- Marvin Price
Hmmm... things are suddenly in motion.
- Louis Gray
Robert: BMW suspension? I thought it's world famous for being crap... But anyways, how about some more photos?
- Kirill Bolgarov
love, love, love!
- Karoli
I think I've completely dissembled my urge to buy cars with an urge to buy bikes.
- Wirehead
ha 2010 Prius driven by 2010 Scoble :)
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
from fftogo
Re: a few comments about evils of the battery... absolutely untrue, those batteris are 98% recyclable just like regular 12V battery, they are not dumped. Looks like many people still need to get educated. I'll keep my 2005 Insight 2-door (65 mpg) until it drops dead.
- Deborah Strickland
Solar panels aren't part of the *advanced technology package*?
- chad calease
Yeah, several of my parent's houses ago, it was a 70s vintage house with solar panels... so I guess you gotta get the "old skool" package to get solar panels.
- Wirehead
Congrats Robert! Can't wait to hear more about the car. It looks like a sweet ride!
- Michael Bazzoni
chad: no, the sun roof can't be put on cars with the advanced technology package. Only so much can be put into these things, I guess.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I don't think that alarm is there to make it okay to sleep while driving. Although knowing you and your sleep schedule that may be a good thing :)
- Jesse Stay
+1 Marvin
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
My 2002 Prius gets 44 mpg steady everywhere, The TDI site claims 30-41. And the new Priuses get more like 50. They are great cars, if utterly unflashy.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Nice, but I pegged you for a Tesla Model S guy ;)
- dougcoleman
Cool car! Recently bought a Toyota as well, but the Yaris maxed out with gadet as well - Loving every minute of it
- Asgeir
Awesome :P
- Orhan Öğüt
I want one. Those and the Nissan Cube Mobile Device are made for geeks, by geeks.
- Danny Minick
from BuddyFeed
What dougcoleman says. A Tesla would have made this thread a lot more interesting. Prius? Yawn.
- Gilbert Harding
Prius is Latin for “to go before,” suggesting it is a predecessor of cars to come.:-)
- John Brazel
You learn something new each day..............
- Kevin J Hatton
A Prius will be my next car, I'm excited by the fact that it's enjoyable to see how much gas you can save. Everyone I talk to says it's fun, trying to get the most out of a gallon of gas!
- Tdubya
In 2020 -people will look back at the Prius like a bad 80's fad and laugh. Remember when? ha ha ha.. People drive the Prius because they want to be seen driving a Prius. Why did Honda switch from a civic hybrid to a Prius clone? Because they couldn't sell the civic because it didn't look like a hybrid. Nobody want to drive a hybrid if other people don't know they are driving a hybrid
- gfurry
gfurry Does the hybird Lexus's look like a "typical" hybrids? I don't think so :) haha
- Asgeir
I'd rather have the Honda, sorry. That is if I were going to ever think of purchasing a car like this, which I probably won't. Talk about trendy righteousness!
- Andy
Robert: Great Car! It has very similar style with the new Tesla Model S Coupe which is not even available until late 2011.
- Garin Kilpatrick
gfurry: we also own a Highlander Hybrid. It doesn't look like a Prius. So there.
- Robert Scoble
Bill Hill would drive one of these.
- David Lloyd
I'd totally agree with you, gfurry, if not for the fact that the numbers don't back it up. 40% or so of all hybrid owners drive hybrids that don't look like hybrids: http://www.hybridcars.com/news...
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ben Kessler: Strangely the only VW's with a bad rep are the ones in the US. VW and especially diesels have a amazing record in Europe. I have an Audi [same group/mechanics] A3 (diesel) that has only ever had standard servicing and it's coming up to 190,000 miles and still runs like a dream getting me 45+ mpg. Do US VW's get put together in the US? Maybe that's the difference.
- 1x29
Show OFF! But Uber Kewl!!
- Arleen Anderson
You know Robert, this would be the perfect car for a road trip across the Nevada desert ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Launch, the Sharpee Rocket!!!
- Mike Shields
I hate my '03 Jetta. I think it came from the Mexico plant. Trunk latch busted (fixed), arm rest compartment busted twice (didn't bother fixing it the second time). A/C borked (took my '92 Camry 10 years before the A/C died, Jetta was 6). But most of my frustration should be on the dealership 'cause they didn't fix an electrical problem until innumerable times of towing the car in due to battery drain. And congrats Robert! Nifty car and environmental conscious! Someday the Prius will look like a sportscar.
- Arlan Koizumi
aww i thought you were going to wait for that tesla sedan
- Paul Stamatiou
congrats on the new car!
- ashley rowell
Does this mean Louis gets an upgrade too?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
So, what are the top 5 geek toys on this car (in addition to the lane keep assist)?
- Paola Bonomo
Brian: yup! Louis just left our house in his new BMW.
- Robert Scoble
Paola: my favorite thing so far is the cruise control. My iPhone's contacts all imported, though. The parking and lane assist features are cool. LED headlights. Satellite radio. Cool display is geeky.
- Robert Scoble
And here in India the corolla is the "latest" car. I envy you guys!
- Venu Vedam
from Nambu
10 Even Better Wolfram Alpha Easter Eggs - http://mashable.com/2009...
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"Earlier today, we brought you 10 of our favorite Wolfram Alpha easter eggs. The much-discussed computational engine seems to have a sense of humor and a flair for the dramatic, and while we thought we found most of them, Mashable’s readers did some investigating of their own."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
After "are you self-aware?" -- the natural follow-up would be, Q: "are you skynet?" A: "Additional functionality for this topic is under development... Leave your email address to be notified when it is ready." http://www12.wolframalpha.com/input... ... it already has a clue where to find you by your IP address ;-)
- Adriano
Any chance we could have a 'switch to beta version' button on the non-beta version?
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Yeah, that would be helpful! Want it!
- ursi
I suggest, temporarily, the friend- part of logo points to classic, and -feed part to beta .... this is no big brain-dead corporation, unable to make any decisions whatsoever, much less the quick ones
- Petr Buben
I might also suggest to have links to Twitter and Facebook/customize at the top ..but that's just me :] .. PLUS, id run Twitter gadget, just like Gmail has - http://twittergadget.appspot.com/ .. on the left, bellow the Table of Content for the respective Group
- Petr Buben
I don't think the beta is going to be around for long (initially was stated it would be only a few weeks), would be nice but perhaps not a must-have?
- Kol Tregaskes
Can we please have a 'switch to non-beta verson' button?
- Isha (Marysia)
The Future of the Social Web: A Breakdown of the Five Eras - http://www.destinationcrm.com/Article...
Jacopo Gio, Steve Read, Kevin Tunis and 10 other people liked this
I can't believe I'm here to see this...from 2-0 down to 5-2 up in one half!! K support the greatest football team in the world.
Benton, Stewart Heys, Roberto Bonini and 2 other people liked this
wow
- Alfredo
yeah, i (begrudgingly) admit the glory of that comeback.
- ryan
That did us now favours though. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow.
- Roberto Bonini
I can't believe we lost. We was in complete control despite some shocking goalkeeping by Gomes.
- Nicholas James
Which IM account(s) do you oftenly use?
Kevin Pruett, Marko Saric, FarshadPix+ and 56 other people liked this
MSN Live / Google Talk
- Alp
AIM and Skype at work, GTalk at home. And I just installed Adium, which I like a lot. I have Fring on my iPhone, but don't really use it. Twittering is easier.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
msn, skype, google talk
- Eda Demir
gtalk.
- Jim Addz No Value
the ones in Digsby and skype
- Amber, Random Time Lord
AIM, GTalk, Y! and MSN at home. GTalk only at work.
- ♥patricia♥
Digsby
- Michelle McCormack
MSN Live,Gtalk,Skypr,Voipbuster
- Serkan Cura (XiLoNeN)
Gtalk's all I need.
- Ciaoenrico
gtalk skype
- krsnsk (Fatih)
Digsby gathers them all !
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir Ben, changed the question, not IM clients, I mean IM accounts ;-)
- Alp
Yahoo, MSN, GTalk, Skype
- Alfredo
Live Messenger, Gtalk.
- Enis Hürkan BURAKÇI
Skype,gtalk, MSN Messenger
- Pelin Ayan
Skype YM Gtalk
- Arash
Skype, Gtalk (directly from gmail panel)
- OmarCaf
I do what I can to find interfaces that put them in one place, sites such as http://meebo.com is one good site, but as standalone clients I use Pidgin, because I like the way it is setup. Not to mention the fact that Gwibber http://ubuntu101.raymondmarr.com/blog... is great to keep abreast of twitter from a singular client as well as feeds and more. All of which are Open Source even my Operating System is Jaunty. Maybe not the specifics you asked for but from my own experience.
- Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
Gtalk & MSN
- Arda Çetin
I can't remember the last time I IM'd. Seriously.
- Mattb4rd
Live - Yahoo
- Farshad
Gtalk
- Fatih Taşkıran
gtalk & skype
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
fring
- Furkan Tunalı
No idea actually. I use Digsby and it's whatever app the other person comes over on. I have accounts with pretty much every chat prog out there, so. :) I'm a chat whore. Shhhh, don't tell anyone!
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Amanda, are you kidding? :P
- Alp
I use GMail's interface, and thus GTalk and AIM networks/protocols.
- Brome
TokBox. It pulls in my Yahoo, GTalk and AIM people. I can even send them video messages. 100% more stable than Skype with a higher quality video.
- Admiral Anika
GTalk/MSN Live
- Alex Scoble
AIM / Gtalk.
- Mona Nomura
AIM (primary), Yahoo, Skype, Google Talk, fring
- Herb Hernandez
Gtalk always on + MSN sometimes.
- bnoise
GTalk and MSN/Live.com thingie ...
- Patrick Jordan
GTalk
- Peter
GTalk most, a few AIM, just got Skype (again). Have Yahoo, ICQ, and MSN for a couple of stragglers stuck in the '90s. Adium to rule them all.
- LogEx
Gtalk with AIM.
- Brandon Titus
I used to be big on AIM. I use Gtalk now.
- Mike Fruchter
Gtalk. Pidgin, was a fan of Miranda before, when I was using ICQ, back with ICQ98.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Skype on Iphone ,,, Gtalk
- johnpiercy
Gtalk mostly and sometimes icq/aim
- imabonehead
Gtalk and sometimes the facebook chat
- Stanislas Jourdan
Rarely touch them nowadays but it would be Windows Live or Gtalk.
- Kol Tregaskes
Skype, it's where my friends are
- Sally Church
google talk / yahoo messenger
- Duane
Google Talk and then Yahoo Messenger
- Tim Yonkers
G-talk, yahoo, AIM, MSN, irc, Facebook... I'm pretty much an IM whore too... I load them all up with Pidgin or Trillian (windows).
- Amy H.
GTalk, AIM
- Helen Sventitsky
MSN for my idiot friends, AIM for my internet friends.
- Larry Hudson
Gtalk, Facebook (through Digsby) & Skype,
- Glenn Slaven
Gtalk and skype
- Kevin Cearns
QQ
- 阿石
gtalk, skype, and barracuda (for corporate communications).
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Adium
- Eric Florenzano
Keep a close eye on Skype in the coming weeks ... just sayin'
- Charlie Anzman
I use *all* services - I'm never offline, that is. They remain open but I rarely chat. That said, in order of frequency (we're talking what, chatting with 3-5 people a day at most?): AIM, Gtalk, Yahoo/MSN (tie), ICQ. I use Pidgin for the most part, but I dedicate one screenname to a standalone version of AIM. I should really start using Skype again.
- Tamar Weinberg
I use pretty much all of them...some more than others. Just got QQ account. haven't installed yet...Love my fring :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Jason: how do you get spammers on any of them? I'm logged into most of them most of the time and Never get spammed
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
AIM, Gtalk rarely.
- Mike Nayyar
AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo on Pidgin, as well as Skype.
- Steven Perez
subbed to all of them, but most of the people I chat with daily are on AIM.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
GoogleTalk.
- Renchin(Reina)
Lindsey: I've had my yahoo addy for over 10 years, and post it all the time in public. Only time I got a messenger spam was wandering into a chat room, and got hammered by smutbots.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Skype.
- Paola Bonomo
gtalk skype yahoo
- browneyes
Mostly GTalk, but sometimes Skype and YM.
- Christian (Simply X)
GTalk. very, very occasionally, Skype, and AIM only if I have to. That account was for my old job, so if a former co-worker pings, i'll use it. But primarily, GTalk.
- Karoli
Gtalk .. hardly IM these days, though.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
msn, gtalk, skype
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
meebo with gtalk, facebook, msn, yahoo, icq and aim inside.
- Miketrevis
gtalk and skype
- Richard A.
msn,g-talk,skype msn i use most
- eric
MSN, Trillian and Skype, rarely gtalk
- Amit Morson
skype, msn
- Göksel Şirin
IM: Jabber[GTalk], AIM, Yahoo!, IRC sometimes ; CLIENT: Trillian Astra Pro ; Please STOP using : Skype, MSN !
- TiTi
MSN and Fring
- Joe Dawson
google talk, sametime.. via Pidgin.. I login to msn and yahoo but nobody really chats with me via either. oh, and facebook chat via Pidgin as well.
- Bill Rawlinson
Gtalk & WLM
- Müjdat Korkmaz
Used to use Yahoo when I was working and colaborating. Now I just find IM annoying.
- Kelly W.
Google Talk with icq connected via transport (icq.jabber.sk).
- Anton
I use digsby. I like how it handles twitter/facebook.
- Will Higgins™
Only Gtalk
- LouCypher
Gtalk and AIM through Gtalk. I haven't tried out Skype yet, but it's on the list.
- James Ferguson
I use gtalk the most then yahoo to talk to some friends who are still using it.
- (jeff)isageek
gtalk
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
Gtalk of course! :)
- Sampad Swain
Msn all the way
- Tiffany Hall
Gtalk!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
kopete
- Ehsanislav
Gtalk.
- Iain Baker
Gtalk, by far my fav. I haven't ever tried the video though.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
AIM and GTalk via Pidgin, but mostly use AIM account
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Windows live and skype for when i call abroad, be it to computer or landline abroad, much cheaper!
- Tatty Gibson
Gtalk
- sandhal
None of those.
- Morton Fox
i really don't use IM anymore
- Cee Bee
Google Talk!, WLM
- Tanju Yildiz
Gtalk,MSN
- Tunahan E. Bilgin
msn. fring ve gtalk arada..
- MiM~~
WLM, Skype.
- Can Yılmaz
Google Talk, had used AIM, but now that Gtalk integrates video it's primary client.
- Victor Ryden
Skype on a daily basis, GTalk sometimes and MSN Messenger even less
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
from twhirl
twitter (we can call it IM, can't we?), MSN, gtalk, yahoo!, skype, irc (channels like #ubuntu), icq... ordered by frequency descending.
- Volkan Özçelik
from twhirl
skype / gtalk / msn / jabber / irc
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
In relation to where I see the most spam at least recently seems to be on live chat via Pidgin, seems supposedly I have AIM Crush or some such thing. In relation to the activity on any of them mostly yahoo and rarely on others and yes I have also had these accounts for years even if they only sit there. Have not done much with Skype though.
- Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
Yahoo! Messenger
- Angga Satria
AIM, Google Talk, and Skype
- Bryan R. Adams
skype, google talk and adium
- Jaap Willem
none. I don't like IM.
- Rutger Blom
AIM
- Rodfather
Skype and gTalk, Jabber, Pidgin
- Susan Beebe
Gtalk, YMessenger, Skype
- Nimaa
Adium http://screencast.com/t... & Pigdin
- sofarsoShawn
Digsby: Which I use for FF, GTalk, Yahoo, Facebook, MySpace and Twitter.
- David Cook
MSN
- Gavin
MSN/Gtalk/AIM/YIM/Skype/FB
- Uncle CW™
gtalk, msn, skype
- John Serra
Pidgin and Adium. AIM, Windows Live, Facebook Chat, and 2 Yahoo accounts. Sometimes g-chat
- Brandon Ball
AIM, google talk, yahoo IM, and facebook chat too.
- Amani
Office Communicator. I kind of have to use it at work. I'd probably use it, even if I didn't have to.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I forgot about ICQ - haven't used that since the 1990's!
- Jim Connolly
Skype / Google Talk. Yahoo.co.jp IM / Yahoo.com / facebook im, mobileme chat with Adium or iChat
- hiro
Digsby holds my AOL, Yahoo, GTalk, MSN, & Facebook chat buddies in one unified list.
- Patrickometry
Adium on mac
- orionstarr
I use Google Talk most of the time. Skype every so often. And never MSN/Hotmail/Live.
- Roberto Bonini
Talk & skype
- Max Trisolino
Just Pidgin
- یک بابک
I have accounts with Windows Live, AIM, Yahoo! and GTalk (also a Skype account that I'm not using). I've used Meebo, Gaim (before it was Pidgin), Digsby and Trillian. These days I'm just in Gtalk (via Gmail).
- CAJ, somewhere else
Adium and Meebo predominantly with iChat, Messenger, and Skype on the side when I want to do video chat. The main IM services I use are Yahoo Messenger, GTalk, and FB chat.
- Steve Sill
MSN via Meebo, FB Chat, and Skype.
- Garin Kilpatrick
fring, gtalk and yahoo
- Rohit
skype and gtalk
- Foxarts
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- Alp
Gtalk only
- FarshadPix+
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"These are vanilla cupcakes with a chocolate cuppie in between, green coconut for the lettuce and frosting for the mustard and ketchup. Yum!"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
CUTE.
- cecily
Cute, but couldn't eat them. I need my cupcake, in paper, topped with icing and looking like a *cupcake*.
- Derrick
IBM tightens budget by cutting tea and coffee for staff - http://www.news.com.au/busines...
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"IN a move that would make even the most miserly budget airline operator wince, IBM has cut tea and coffee from the office budget worldwide to cut costs. IBM Australia sent an email to staff last week telling them it would stop subsidising employees' home internet connections from May."
- Johnny Worthington
from Bookmarklet
Unsurprisingly, worker productivity also suddenly cut in half.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I know, you'd think the one thing you wouldn't cut costs on in a tech company is caffine products.
- Johnny Worthington
from IM
I am so glad this got out into the public arena :-)
- Threepwood
++Akiva. I've seen the brain imagery; that will happen ;)
- Michael W. May
hol. bajoley.
- anna sauce
*backhands IBM* You don't EVER do that. Ever! Cut an exec instead.
- Mo Kargas
Just mindblowing. I've often wondered what would happen if companies like this set aside 5% of their execs' yearly compensation for a sanity/coffee fund? Assume average 5 million salary for top 20 execs (and that is WAY conservative), that's $5 million a year. Am I missing something or 1) would that not pay for coffee worldwide for IBM offices? 2) would not the increase in productivity likely increase the worth of the execs' shares by more than 5%?
- Adam Lasnik
Amazing. IBM doing something stupid, stodgy and not in the interests of employees or anyone else? Whodathunkit.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
"Employees who put in long hours of unpaid overtime to help push the tech giant's profits up 12 per cent to $US4.4 billion ($6 billion) during its final quarter of last year have received the news as a slap in the face. .... They'd put a coin slot in the toilet door if they could."
- David HC Soul
Actually, it's a smart move. They cut something they knew the employees would be willing to supply, themselves. It's likely that various departments will all chip in and send someone to Costco to get it.
- April Russo (app103)
Any strongly profiting company can afford a bit of bloody coffee.
- Mo Kargas
Smart? Maybe - The Highest Level Of Douchebaggery? Hell Yes
- Johnny Worthington
from IM
I think you're wrong, April. Somebody working unpaid overtime walks up to find a coffee vending machine to be reminded they have to pay for the benefit of working OT. I think the person looks at the machine... goes back & spends 5 minutes cleaning up and leaving whenever it is not a case of firing being directly on the line. If firing is directly on the line, then the looking for the first opportunity to defect is moved to the forefront. Times turn and guess how much loyalty has been strengthened? dumb.
- David HC Soul
April, doesn't matter how smart a move it is on the books. It's a backwards move. These people are busting their asses so the company makes even more money than before, and _this_ is what they get in return?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Nothing a minor office revolt won't fix. Question is are they united enough to pull it off?
- vijay
Were I in the position of these people, I would revolt. Hell, I'd probably lead my coworkers in a riot before giving my boss a full moon and walking out the door, never to return. That's just bullshit management.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
It just goes to show that numbers on a page isn't always the best decision markers.
- Johnny Worthington
from IM
Damn right, Johnny!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Another Australian news report highlights the cutting of company-funded home internet access: "Although home-based staff have been invited back to the office to work where internet access is available free, staff say office real estate is short. The problem with that is there is a severe shortage of desk and real estate space and prior to this directive it was almost impossible to find a desk to sit at," another IBM Australia employee said."
- David HC Soul
I have worked at a lot of places that didnt supply coffee, and never found it outrageous. I know people hate it when a privilege is taken away but isnt this better than another 200 or 2000 job cuts that could be yours?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle, even a very rough estimate puts the cost of company caffeine at about 0.2% of a worker's direct compensation. Probably less than that. Someone who cares more than I do could figure out the loss in morale and productivity as workers start having to go out for coffee... It really seems like a giant case of penny wise and pound foolish.
- Andrew C
Yes, I can agree this sounds very petty, (but 0.2% times 400000 is probably still 100 jobs... and i bet it doesnt count maintenance contracts etc. around coffee) but so does people talking of office revolt. Truly this cannot be the worst thing in working for IBM, and if you were going to organise to fight to improve your working conditions is coffee really the first thing that ought to...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
But IBM will still lay people off in the future. I really don't think this is being done to spare a few jobs. And the thing about cutting down IBM subsidies of home networking makes me think a while earlier down the line, some bright exec figured out they could cut the property and furniture budget by encouraging workers to telecommute. Now they'll all be heading back into the offices, negating the original savings, if any.
- Andrew C
And no, it's probably not the worst thing, but (1) people are very attached to their caffeine intakes, so I suspect they'll take it harder than a purely rational look at the economics would have it, and (2) an accumulation of slights piles up and finally companies that treat their workers so shabbily find that their "number one asset, their people" _really were their number one asset_, but only after most of the good ones have left.
- Andrew C
I do agree that it seems silly from the point of view of the company, savings in the wrong place. But it does also seem very frivolous to get so wound up about a few cups of coffee a day. PS: I suspect this will happen more, as a)not everyone drinks coffee b)there is always the fear that one day coffee will be shown harmful and people will sue their employers
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
so what? as long as they don't shut down the friday happy hour, I don't see the big deal. (wait, they did that already? no more happy hours? those sons of...) ;-)
- tim
I work for a small company and there isn't even a communal coffee pot in the office. But, the office is in Harvard Square, so there are many coffee shops to choose from close by. I wonder how much these 'coffee outings' ultimately cost the company. I bring my own tea in, because I'm a insufferable snob.
- stretta
from twhirl
I refer to Dilbert for my response http://dilbert.com/strips...
- Yant
That's a nice looking coffee.
- Mike Reynolds
ditto on the coffee.
- anna sauce
Nothing like a flat white
- David HC Soul
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