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10 Shoes Uglier Than Kanye's New Air Yeezys - http://digg.com/arts_cu...
"I dont see anything wrong with the Yeezy's"
- Gadiel Rivera
Thanks to @guykawasaki for linking to Ten Tech Predictions for 2009. Nice retweet army. Now getting Dugg. http://digg.com/mods...
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Dugg
- Hutch Carpenter
Dugg
- Susan Beebe
dugg!
- Sarah Perez
Dugg :]
- Gadiel Rivera
Just dugg it, for 56 so far. Good job Louis.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Lets see how much it take for it to be on the first page.
- Gadiel Rivera
I wish I could keep track of all of the Digg haters who end up digging this up.
- Josh Haley
Why hasn't anyone put on their list that Android will start been used has a PC OS..or is it that obvious that no one even bothers to call it a prediction?
- Gadiel Rivera
If You Are Really, Really Desperate For Cash, These Guys Will Give You $3k - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
I think that a $ 3,000 could really help anyone that's simply making a Twitter or iPhone app, because most of this developers can design and code not to mention this Apps need little to no marketing. So I don't see how $3,000 is too low for this kind of development.
- Gadiel Rivera
What is your first FAIL of 2009? Anyone?
tinypants - Hagitha of FF, PENGUIN: MAJOR CAPS LOCK, Kol Tregaskes and 17 other people liked this
Me? I already let my kids stay up past midnight. Oh wait, that's normal.
- Josh Haley
headache!
- Susan Beebe
Not going to bed before 1AM :/
- Michael Forian
We were so busy watching RoTK that we didn't notice the date had changed. The bubbly was, therefore, untouched.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
txt to wrong number, if that can be considered fail.
- Moushumi Kabir
COMMENTING ON THIS THREAD LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Crapping glitter. Puking unicorns. Leprechaun phlegm. and clear stripper heels. Ya, don't ask.
- Mona Nomura
being sober for the first couple of hours. maybe that's a win? but a buzz can come from different sources i suppose. hee hee.
- Morgan Haley
Mona: does crapping glitter hurt or does it kind of tingle?
- Morgan Haley
Watching TV. What a waste
- Jim Goldstein
Already shot ALL resolutions except finishing the book I've been writing for a year ...
- Charlie Anzman
I tinkle glitter, too.
- Mona Nomura
Trying to toss confetti, shoot silly string, blow my noisemaker and get some poppers off while trying to drink champagne and troubleshoot stupid Skype for my husband so he can talk to his Hungarian kin.
- Anika
Damn, Anika...you win, so far I think. That's pretty funny fail right there, hope you don't mind me saying. :D
- Josh Haley
I've been redeemed. The kid went to bed after the 2nd time I asked. And most of the confetti is out of my keyboard. I can live with the glitter. EDITED TO ADD: Well, she made a liar out of me. I just went inside and she's on Skype with Daddy. She can't even speak Hungarian, the little turd.
- Anika
Spent the first hour in the back of a police breath-test van - passed breath test and drug test. Not really a fail. But I should have been somewhere else.
- Chris Loft
I tried to kick something and fell on my back....my head hurts :s...ooh and im not sober :]
- Gadiel Rivera
Chris, you just took the lead. Gadiel, take care of that!
- Josh Haley
Still not having Animal Crossing for the Wii
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Kathy Griffin
- Morgan
I broke up with my partner last night, a fail because I wake up alone at my parents!
- Joe Dawson
I think Joe Dawson wins. I have the rest of the day to accomplish my fail.
- Janet
I was cleaning up a friend's pullover as the clock struck midnight. He had puked all over it! Cleaning up puke was the first thing I did this year.
- Rahul Das
France has been a huge fail so far (had to quit class because of childcare issues), which is still going on, so fail flail is still happening.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Letting my daughter watch too much TV this morning so I can recuperate... And I'm really not that bad off. Just tired. Not used to staying up past 10. :P
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
It's not really my fault but I experienced extreme nostril fail this morning at 4-something. Haven't slept since. Damn this cold!
- Jim Hearts FF
Weird one... While taking this pic http://friendfeed.com/e... I had to climb down onto the shore to get close to the wharf... In my haste, I had put on Rachael's pink flip-flops when I left home. After making the shots, I was walking back when I stepped in a soft muddy bit, sinking down to my knees... Rachael's pink flip-flops did not come back up with my feet. I sunk my wife's pink flip-flops while taking photos :P
- Johnny Worthington
+1 Johnny. If you're going to fail, fail with imagination!
- Jim Hearts FF
+1 to Jim for "extreme nostril fail." I feel your pain!
- Laura B.
Nothing so far.
- Shevonne
Josh, I lied. Stubbing my toe really sucked
- Shevonne
Getting the flu two days before and being confined to bed all day today. Wait, that isn't really FAIL, is it?
- Steven Perez
hangover:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Internet was down all day, thanks Freedom2Surf. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Nearly putting both contact lenses in the same eye this morning.
- PENGUIN: MAJOR CAPS LOCK
@Spidra: I did the same thing. We'll cry together when our PG&E bills arrive.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
My first fail of '09 was not realizing my bathroom was out of toilet paper until after I'd completed my task.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
None yet. I'm just that awesome. :)
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Amanda - LOL! Penguin - sounds like you need to slow down a bit? Kol - that's inexcusable! Shevonne - jinxed yourself with your first comment maybe? Johnny - dude...now you need to go get a shovel.
- Josh Haley
thinking that I should get ore onto the social media scene this new year :]
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- Gadiel Rivera
Do you find intelligence even sexier than looks?
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Yes
- AJ Batac
I always strive for a balance
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Yep. Far more useful and long-lasting.
- Kamilah Gill
Yep
- anna sauce
Absolutely yes
- Carmen
Beauty fades but conversation doesn't.
- Amani
God yes.. in fact the exact opposite happens on really attractive stupid people.. If they're pretty but have the intelligence of a mango, I find them much less attractive
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Moderation in all things... too extreme along any axis results in very high maintenance.
- LogEx
No but it is damn sexy ... and important to overall sexiness.
- ·[▪_▪]·
Yeppers.
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
I'm curious to see how gay men would answer this question. Lord knows, I've hooked up with some hot dumb asses.
- Derrick
People say yes in theory, but in practice, not so much.
- Todd Hoff
speak for yourself, Todd. I'm totally not kidding. (that doesn't mean my guy isn't hawt on top of being brainy)
- Kamilah Gill
I've never spoken for anyone but myself. Except for the hand puppet thing.
- Todd Hoff
Definitely sexier!
- Selma
Well I certainly don't want to date an idiot.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I've fallen for people without knowing what they really looked like more than once, but I would have to say it's a complete package thing when it comes to "sexy". But then, someone is always ten times sexier when already attracted to the other bits of them. Rambling... Derrick, you've hooked up with with pretty dumb asses, but you want a lasting thing with someone you relate to and can converse with, yes? That's true of many, most.
- Michael W. May
Yes
- Katie: Witch Of The West
No
- Vicky
Oh absolutely, MWM. Why do you think I'm still single? Noticed, I said hooked up, and not dated. The guys I've dated might've found me intelligent, but maybe not very sexy, hence the reason for the post.
- Derrick
just go with a librarian and you get the best of both.
- Thomas Hawk
It's interesting. Sounds like people ideally like a combo of the two. Intelligence enhances existing good looks. By comparison, there have been people who others have sworn up and down are super-foine, and when they open their mouths, the looks just fly out of the window for me.
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
Oh, hell yes. Thankfully my wife is both brilliant and hot, but intelligence is far more important than looks for me.
- Neal Jansons
+5 Thomas Hawk.
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
Intelligence? SEXY??? Boobs over brains any day.
- Michael Forian
It depends. Because for me personally she has to look "good" in order for me to get interested and start knowing her, later finding out if shes smart or not.
- Gadiel Rivera
I have a minimum threshold for physical attractiveness and a minimum threshold for intelligence, as well as a minimum compatibility of personality and interests. Someone has to meet all three for me to date them. I'm not sure how I'd even begin to say which of those three dimensions is "sexier" than the other.
- Eric P
@Eric Well put.
- Neal Jansons
Full disclosure: I tend to find nerdy and geeky guys hot. These pretty boy Brad Pitt types can't really do anything for me but get out of the way. But a guy with glasses, or a bit of a tummy, or someone embracing their thinning hair and into comic books? Marry me.
- Derrick
Hell, yes.
- Steven Perez
YES, Spidra. Sense of humor, FTW.
- Derrick
Why can't you have both?
- Mark Wilson
Well said, Eric P and Spidra.
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
I'm far more interested in a person's character than their appearance. Of course, appearance can be an indicator of character, but intelligence goes much further.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Interesting, this thread is. At the end of the day, I'm looking for my partner in crime: someone I can do incredibly naughty things to, and then go get ice cream and shop for ramekins at Crate and Barrel.
- Derrick
@Lindsey in Love Exactly! totally agree with you :) balance!!!!!!!!!
- Lora Lufark
Yes, Intelligence AND and a sense of humor--Kevin Smith, Jack Black...love them! but it only goes sooo far....the comic book guy from the Simpsons would be too far.
- Kelly W.
Hmm. I'd say Comic Book Guy is a good example of geekiness *without* intelligence.
- Michael R. Bernstein
100% yes.
- EricaJoy
+Spidra
- Anna Haro
Without question, yes!
- Chris Luckhardt
Definitely! However, it is wonderful when both are there.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Yes.
- David Cook
Here are the reasons people are giving me why friendfeed sucks:
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1. Tim O'Reilly said that he liked the news aggregation, but gets too distracted by the comments and likes. You can't hide those.
- Robert Scoble
2. Ross Mayfield said he gets overwhelmed. I figured out that friend-of-a-friend feature is bringing way too much into his view. If he follows just one person, me, he sees hundreds of items every week.
- Robert Scoble
Too much Gmail thinking in FF. They vastly improved e individual utility, but lost the ability to scale beyond a single use case
- ming yeow
3. Other people tell me that they don't know how to use it, the UI has too many choices. On further pulling what they really wanted was the "best of day" feature but it is hard to find and not very useful unless you've been very careful on following people.
- Robert Scoble
I find way more things to like about FF than I do with Twitter.
- Jeff P. Henderson
4. Other people tell me that they want more help in figuring out who people are before they follow them. They have a point. I just visited some people's pages and I have no idea who they are, or what kinds of things they are passionate about.
- Robert Scoble
I like it but I don't use it as much because I get overwhelmed by noise friend-of-a-friend introduces a lot of people that just don't fit in with what I want to see. I don't think I would care if I was seeing a lot of relevant information to me.
- Jimminy
If I could figure out how to feed Twitter's @replies into FF I'd be all about it.
- LA Snark
5. Other people tell me they want to do just see items that have lots of likes. I don't know how to do that for them.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter has first mover advantage. I have too many relationships in Twitter that are not on FriendFeed. No easy way for me to sync Twitter followed/followers with FriendFeed and use it as a Twitter client. Then I'd like clean way to dedupe the Twitter stream out of FriendFeed to see the special stuff in FriendFeed. Its not enough to just hide Tweets without likes/comments.
- Elliott Ng
It isn't about if it sucks or not, it just isn't for everyone, just like twitter. Twitter is simpler, I can use twitterific on my mac & iPhone. Actually, this does suck. Everytime I hit return to try and add a space, it posts the comment. Beyond 140 characters, you do need white space to be able to read text on a computer screen.
- Steve Rhodes
I like FF because it is configurable. You can see as much or as little as you want and you have full control (or almost full control). The other major plus with FF is that it is threaded so you can have actual conversations.
- Jeff P. Henderson
6. Other people tell me they want to see a strict reverse chronological view and that I can't figure out how to do that for them either.
- Robert Scoble
If I had to stack rank, this would be my #1 tool. Ahead of Twitter, Facebook, strands, and anything else similar
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
7. Ross Mayfield wanted an easy "share this item on my blog" feature. I know how to do that (use the "More" menu, copy the permalink, etc) but that's too geeky and not as nice as Facebook's "share" feature.
- Robert Scoble
7. I like how twitter reminds me of birds: cheep cheep
- sofarsoShawn
Twitter, like email and Google reader, has a nice "author"/"headline" format that is easy to scan...FriendFeed visually makes you work harder to extract meaning from the stream.
- Elliott Ng
It's too confusing because people are following the wrong people and don't know how to filter? As a 'Social Media Expert' you have no clue how sad this makes me...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Fascinating. I can be as negative as or more than anyone else, but I don't associate FF with sucking.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
ming: there are lots of people who tell me they try friendfeed and don't get the point of it and leave. If friendfeed solves some of these pain points in 2009 it will make evangelism of the service a lot easier.
- Robert Scoble
Format of the FriendFeed stream is not efficient...seems like a lot of scrolling to get infomation...less easy to scan, show/hide, tag, etc. than Google Reader.
- Elliott Ng
Not everyone is going to get every thing. I suppose, though, that it's significant when it's LOTS of people.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Is the learning curve for the UI and information flow really overwhelming for the tech-savvy group it's aimed at? I doubt it. That said it's not a perfect product, and I can see how some people may want their aggregation without a social media aspect.
- Mo Kargas
I think #4 has merit. You can somewhat tell what people like by what they talk about and what content they share on various services, but I think FF could allow for a quick "About Me" somewhere on the profile so people would know who you are, where you're from, and what your interests are (other than the internet).
- Mark Frost
MiniMage: I didn't say that I thought it sucks, but this is the feedback I'm getting as I show it to others and talk to other people about their experiences. I've heard this feedback enough now to know that these are the roadblocks to adoption.
- Robert Scoble
Ooh, I like the idea of a view with a strict reverse chronological order.
- Eric Florenzano
FF has great potential for the aggregator but needs a simple grid of feeds in and feeds out for everything. That way I could choose where to make updates and control the flows. Twitter is feeding more than one place for me. I could use FF in some of the same ways as TweetDeck but only if I could make it work bi-directionally with Twitter and as needed with other services.
- Lee Herman
Bottom line: if I choose to live inside of Twitter where my relationships are, and I have to go into Google Reader to check feeds, FriendFeed just doesn't add enough incrementally especially since I have my Reader set up with important feeds and it doesn't replace the need to go check Twitter anyway.
- Elliott Ng
I pretty much ignored Friend Feed until I saw you mention the live feed a few days ago. Now I'm hooked. Darn you Scoble! Darn you to heck I say! :P
- MarkCarras
#8: clients like Tweetdeck are non existent. Same for iPhone apps.
- Robert Scoble
You can't DM people. Heck, you can't even @reply someone directly, only comment on their post.
- Reuben Thum
I *really* dont like the Friend of Friend feature
- Sam Houston
Sam: you know you can turn it off, right?
- Robert Scoble
Recall I adopted FriendFeed before you. :) Still like the aggregated feed for myself but haven't become a Kung Fu Master of FriendFeed to make it really work for me. Maybe completely hiding Twitter, setting up more groups, hiding more media types, and adding more people, would make it work for me.
- Elliott Ng
So really, most of the complaints could be resolved if some of the folks making those neat Twitter applications made one for Friendfeed or if FF implemented these on their own. Sounds like a great 2009 for FF either way:-)
- Brandon Mendelson
This is a feature recommendation list for the FF team.
- Gadiel Rivera
scoble: I am just not sure if the world needs friendfeed. I am a big fan of reducing noise as the most direct form of value add (think google), aggregating and then recommending seems a little twisted. Hope I am making sense
- ming yeow
Until recently I had hard time understanding how to make good use of FF. It was too noisy and difficult to use as compared to Twitter. However, after seeing your video on 20 reasons for using FF on FastCompany, I am now able to understand it a lot better and making good use of it. Since seeing that video, I have not been able to stop using Twitter and FF. Thanks Robert for producing that awesome overview video. FF team should have created that a long time back.
- Amar Shah
So, basically, it doesn't suck. They just don't know how to use it. Everybody is not built to use everything. None of these points raised have much substance to me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
ming: the world might not need friendfeed but I sure do. Also, it's really the only competitor to facebook out there and facebook needs more competition.
- Robert Scoble
FF grew on me - it's organization is a bit off-putting for me but I've managed to wrap my oddly mapped out logic around it. It does help drown out the noise of Twitter.
- Renee Hendricks
FF is simply confusing. Not a friendly UI at all. Don't Make Me Think says Steve Krug. FF is making me think and I just don't have the patience for it.
- Bora Celik
1UP Rasheen. I do think having a small profile would be nice, but other than that, yeah, I agee with exactly what you said.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Robert, I guess my problem is..is that I can't find that option :P I'll go look now :)
- Sam Houston
Friendfeed has been a fairly fluid concept since I started using it, and the kinds of suggestions you're hearing from Ross and Tim get addressed and fixed all the time. The question is, even if the Friendfeed crew could get every nuance tuned to exactly the specifications people are giving you, would they actually come around and use it, or would there just be another excuse? Sure, it's not perfect, but it's a work in progress -- and they progress fast around here.
- Pete Delucchi
I can't stand Facebook. Totally different though. One is all about time waste pokes, super pokes, and other useless crap and Friend Feed is more about networking and sharing actual content and thoughts. Friend Feed is about actual communication.
- MarkCarras
Sam: click hide on an item twice. That will bring up the hide options dialog where you can select turning off friend of a friend. By the way, even if you turn off all that stuff you'll still be able to see those items at the bottom of the page.
- Robert Scoble
Pete: as friendfeed gets better it pulls more people in. Fixing roadblocks to evangelizing a product DOES pull more people into using it.
- Robert Scoble
Lets not forget there is no easy way to follow conversations that you did not originate, I should have the option of being notified when someone else comments on a thread I posted on. FriendFeed is awesome though
- Kelly Johns
Mark: I have 5,000 people on facebook and I never get my time wasted through poking or other useless crap. The news feed there is quite good and the social graph is way more advanced than friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Well, maybe I am missing somethings, but everything I have seen at Facebook just bugs me. Maybe I should look at yours and see what I am missing.
- MarkCarras
To me, FriendFeed isn't about being a social graph. It's first and foremost about aggregating items I publish irrespective of the source service. The ability to subscribe to a person is more comparable to subscribing to a news feed as opposed adding a friend on Facebook. In terms of subscriptions, FF is basically Google Reader with a proper commenting system.
- trextor
Bora, I found Facebook's UI more confusing than Friendfeed's. The difference for me is the more I use and discover the nuances of FF the more I like it, where as Facebook has flat-line. Granted, a component that's hard to factor out (for me anyway) is FB is people-I've-known centric and FF is people-I'm-discovering oriented + grappling with ideas.
- Micah Wittman
Contrary to Robert's opinion, I hope FF developers don't start thinking that they need to compete with Facebook. Subscribers != Friends. It's that simple. If anything, they're competing with RSS readers. For what it's worth, many of these same issues also plague RSS readers.
- trextor
FF does have an iphone app coming any day now (Friendly). And with some more options with the IM feature (like activating it when you comment on a post like this so then it notifies you when a response is made) then it could become even more conversational. I view this as more professional and higher IQ than Facebook personally.
- Amani
I'm with you on that Trextor. Friend Feed is more like RSS style of social networking. Facebook is not. Facebook just doesn't have a focus of info like Friend Feed.
- MarkCarras
I have to be honest that I don't use Friendfeed as much as I probably should. They have so much automated features that I don't even bother to login in weeks.
- Vlad Zabblotskyy
57 comments and 29 likes in 48 minutes. Interesting!
- Robert Scoble
I feel as if Robert is doing an evil (not really) little experiment with us and showing someone else to prove some point ...LOL.
- Amani
Amani: I just noted that because it seemed to have touched a nerve. Got a lot of feedback very quickly.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, many of those are very valid points and it's easy to see why a new user can get overwhelmed. I know that Brett keeps talking about making the service easier and friendlier for new users. I think they should perhaps offer a 'Lite' version for new users that hides a large number of features which can later be accessed by enabling the 'Advanced' features. Just a thought.
- Mark Krynsky
It took me 5 minutes just to figure out where my post was in this huge list of comments! Amani is right, FF will become way more conversational when it notifies you on additional comments on posts like this. Facebook is good at doing this when you comment on wall posts.
- Kelly Johns
The 'Send an IM when someone comments on my posts' feature has probably been my favorite of the year as it keeps me very engaged with people that comment on my items.
- Mark Krynsky
The 'date of post order' and some sort of basic profile are my 2 highest requested features for FriendFeed.
- Kol Tregaskes
Very useful list.
- Dave Winer
My biggest problem is that all my real world friends are just now getting onto facebook. a few are moving to twitter finally. it will be a year or more before my network migrates to friendfeed. you have to go where the people are! unless of course you could define a network on one platform and use the features of another platform to view/interact with that network. too much 'friend adding' duplication now. i wish you could treat these tools as readers rather than network definers.
- Jeff DiStanlo
UI has too much clutter. Customization support is needed. Post aggregation could use custom filters,
- anand
I consider FF the "heavy duty conversationalist". If I want wih a few folks I know for a little convo, FB is great. If I want a little convo with more folks I know a little less and make it public, Twitter is great. FF is about longer, tied-in conversations, holistic. FF needs a mobile client that works WELL with more phones than just the high-end ones else it will be in nichedom for a while."
- Patrick Moorhead
It mostly boils down to information overload. Friendfeed needs to invest substantial resources and effort in dealing with that problem before it can appeal to the masses. Friendfeeding is an activity for a small elite at this stage -- for people who can easily process huge torrents of text.
- Sean McBride
Robert, re: #8: clients that work with FF include Twhirl and PeopleBrowsr.
- Will King
I'm surprised there's not more of an outcry to be able to dynamically filter services in Friend list/feeds (home, list1, list2, etc.). It'd be a lot easy for me to scan these if I can a) filter-out 1 to many services (eg, don't display twitter, flickr, rss on list1) and b) filter-in 1 to many services (eg, display only twitter, only twitter and plurk, etc).
- Matt Albiniak
On FF vs FB: I think FB may be a competitor for FF ("ok, I can do this in Facebook" says the mainstream user) but FF is not a competitor to FB ("Facebook is much more fun", says the mainstream user) due to FB's app aggregation.
- santiromero
Kanye West can’t sing, blames evil spirits (http://www.inquisitr.com/13644...)
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He's always worried about the wrong things, the wrong things </voice class="Kanye West" title="paranoid">
- Jason Toney
Do these evil spirits ever perhaps tell him to rhyme a word with itself?
- Mitch
Maybe they will tell him to put up the autotune and get back to rapping
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
+1000 Rahsheen. That thing has to go. For everyone. Period.
- Michael Pardee
Not a fan of him and other rap "stars", Eminem and his ilk also comes to mind, for what it's worth.
- Tyson Key
I miss the "College Drop Out Kanye" -- songs like We Don't Care, Spaceship, Through the Wire, Get 'Em High and Jesus Walks are a thing of the past. :(
- Nicholas Kreidberg
He already said in hes blog that this is BS :] .
- Gadiel Rivera
You mean his album? Yes...definitely BS.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
No, the claims that hes blaming evil spirits and stuff. Ooh and you should give Kanyes new album a good listen, because the new album may not be hes usual rapping style but its good music.
- Gadiel Rivera
The music is good, the vocals can suck it.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Aaah but remember that not all music legends that are still talked about today had superb voices.
- Gadiel Rivera
Maybe, but I don't recall them hiding the fact with excessive amounts of autotune and studio hackery. It's not even artistic at that point, it's garbage. Especially for the WHOLE ALBUM to be that.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
oh dont get me started with this clown.
- Carlos Ayala
Apple's Jobs is (Still) Fine - Tech Check with Jim Goldman - http://www.cnbc.com/id...
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Never mind the Gizmodo report was flimsy at best. Never mind the blog seemed to distance itself from its own report. Traders and their hair triggers swiftly yelled "Sell!" — and rumor overshadowed reason once again. I spoke to Apple after these headlines crossed and the company, which officially doesn't comment on rumors, reiterated the reasons it offered two weeks ago: Apple was pulling out of Macworld because the company didn't see the need to continue its investment in the expo, which included Steve Jobs' keynote. I was told this morning (Tuesday) that nothing has changed since then. The same reasons apply today that applied two weeks ago.
- MG Siegler
from Bookmarklet
Jack Skellington wants his costume back.
- Derrick
If he's beta testing the new iDiet, I can tell you this: it's broke.
- Akiva Moskovitz
but gizmodo walks away with 100,000 pageviews for it - did one reader stop reading ? nope.
- Allen Stern
The tech blogosphere is so PR-whipped, they won't know if he's really sick until a memorial statue is erected in his honor. And, even then, a Twitter slap fight will break out about whether he's really dead or just keeping a (very) low profile.
- Sprague D
everyone wants the pageviews
- Allen Stern
Jobs as modern business version of Jim Morrison?
- Valeria Maltoni
Who to believe in?
- Gadiel Rivera
Valeria, I guess that means one day he could be the modern-day version of Elvis or Tupac or Kurt Cobain.... "Steve Jobs is in my basement, building an amazing new iPhone"
- Eric Eldon
Liked for Allen's insightful comments.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Eric - it will be really interesting to see what happens. Seems to have that kind of charisma.
- Valeria Maltoni
As somebody whose husband died of cancer, he does look like he's seriously ill.
- Dawn
Dawn I was just looking at pictures of my dad from his last Christmas and was thinking exactly the same thing.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Anyone else remember the 1980s with dying soviet leaders. Is apple the kremlin of the techworld minus the secret police and gulags? Secrecy and information control can get out of hand.
- Claes Krantz
So, Claes, you're saying that you think Apple does not have secret police and gulags?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
one anonymously-sourced blog post and AAPL loses $4 billion in market cap? somehow i don't think it's about pageviews.
- Karim
when Engadget did the same in 2007, CNet interviewed Brian Lam of Gizmodo, who said that "the important thing on the juicy stories is to be extremely cautious, especially with Apple." riiiiiiight. http://news.cnet.com/Welcome...
- Karim
I expect that any morning I will hear on the radio that Steve Jobs is dead.
- CW™
Their SEC filing lists availability of "key personnel", including Jobs, as a risk factor -- wouldn't it be due diligence for them to have an estimate of his loss baked into their financial projections? Especially when the brand is so identified with him. Or are they really at the mercy of rumors?
- Sprague D
Yuck. I find the whole death watch thing revolting.
- Hayes Haugen
Where are his sources? If he is so certain that he is correct, how come he's not quoting Apple's PR department? (Kattie Cotton, to be exact)
- Mona Nomura
If Gizmodo's report on Steve Job's declining health seemed "flimsy" (http://tinyurl.com/7gwc9k), Jim Goldman's post seems equally "flimsy".
- James Hoang
I just re-read the thread and Allen? Giz already gets 8923749283749283 gajillion page views, daily. I don't think that's the case. @Hayes: This is more than a death watch. Did you actually read the article on Giz? @James: A-MEN. FINALLY someone with PERSPECTIVE
- Mona Nomura
James, are you equating a report from journalist who has won several national journalism awards, who has worked for ABC, CNN, and NBC, who talked to a source at Apple -- with a blog post sourced from an anonymous tipster whose motives are unknown, and whose editor is a self-confessed rumor whore? Facts aside, are you claiming both sources are equally *credible?*
- Karim
Karim? After this award winning journalist published the post basically damning Giz, bloggers, and yelling at us "I KNOW BEST AND YOU DON'T" http://www.cnbc.com/id... he then writes a piece stating: "It's a classic case of "no news is good news." Stop the rumors. And stop believing them. Until Apple says something different, or I get my hands on something tangible and trustworthy,...
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- Mona Nomura
And in his first piece, there were NO quotes. If he's an award winning journalist then where are the facts? Where are the quotes? Why should I believe him? And WHY do I need to think about these things when turning to 'credible' sources? So where does that leave us (the readers)?
- Mona Nomura
Ok, sorry, you lost me :-D How is suggesting that people report *news* and not unsubstantiated *rumors* irresponsible? EDIT: or hypocritical, for that matter?
- Karim
He is not reporting news either and contributing to the noise...
- Mona Nomura
I personally just found a guy who majored in journalism -- where presumably they teach you stuff like journalistic ethics, how to source a story, fact checking, etc. -- and who has won awards for journalism, who has been in tech journalism since 1989, who has worked for several national news organizations, etc. ad nauseam, to be a *slightly* more credible witness than just some random guy on a blog. Am I too trusting? :-D
- Karim
Gizmodo had their one anonymous source. Goldman says he called Apple. Did he quote anyone at Apple? No. Again, I'm assuming that when a respected tech journalist says he called a tech company, he actually called them. I'm also assuming that a quote wouldn't have been useful in this case, since it is Apple's policy *not to comment on rumors.* All they did (according to Goldman) was repeat the previously-given reasons for pulling out of Macworld, and state that nothing had changed.
- Karim
Trust me, I want to believe that guy too. But he was wrong about the Macbook Air, iPhone, http://www.appleinsider.com/article... and the Zune phonehttp://www.google.com/search... (project pink). :(...
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- Mona Nomura
In addition, Goldman says he talked to anonymous sources inside Apple, and they told him nothing had changed. So (assuming he isn't making shit up) he is at least trying to corroborate what he's been told from MULTIPLE SOURCES. This also makes him more credible than Gizmodo and their one random guy. I'm guessing they teach that in Journalism 101.
- Karim
Ghouls and grave robbers hovering like vultures, Karma will find you.
- Phil Boiarski
If Goldman is lying, he is destroying his career, his reputation at pretty much every major media outlet in the country. Whereas Gizmodo's editor -- a self-confessed rumor whore -- is probably just going to say "oops, our source mislead us" and go back to blogging. Or better yet, they'll wait until Jobs actually dies and then run a "told you so" post.
- Karim
So even if Goldman was wrong he gets away with creating, spreading rumors because of his awards? And he's not a hypocrite for calling out bloggers for doing the same thing?
- Mona Nomura
You'd expect Apple to act in their own best interest and downplay whatever health issues Jobs might have. I expect Goldman to be honest because, as a "real" journalist concerned with ethics, he's not allowed to buy shares of Apple. That leaves the question of Gizmodo's anonymous source and whether they stand to benefit financially from tanking shares of Apple. Doubt you'll be reading about *that* in their blog.
- Karim
Mona, going back to reply to comments -- it *is* news to say that the reason why a major tech stock got hammered today was an unsubstantiated rumor. it is also news to report on the efforts you made to confirm or deny the rumor.
- Karim
Gawker's policies prohibits employees from trading stocks, taking trips on companies, invitations to events. Can you say the same for Goldman? Look, I don't work at Gawker, nor do I work for Gizmodo. But just because this guy has this award, that award, it doesn't mean anything to me. I look at the facts, assess the situation. I don't understand why this guy thinks he's better than the next when he's doing the same exact thing.
- Mona Nomura
Mona I'm starting to wonder if we're looking at the same story. lol What rumors were spread by Goldman? I was simply saying that the stakes are higher if Goldman is wrong than if Gizmodo is wrong. If Goldman is wrong, either he is lying and his career is over, or someone at Apple is lying and the lawsuits begin. If Gizmodo is wrong, they'll just go "oops." It's just a blog, right? ;-)
- Karim
That's thing that frustrates me!! Goldman has been wrong with the Macbook Air, the iPhone release and most recently the Zune phone and he's still a credible source? Wrong is wrong! And with the increase of digital media, it highly concerns me because I no longer know who or what to trust.... All I want is fact checking and not headline chasing and it seems like I'm asking for too much haha
- Mona Nomura
lol Mona, in the 2nd Goldman story you linked to, he says flat out, he's not allowed to buy shares either. And I am not talking about Gawker/Gizmodo motivation here (though *that* can be questioned as well), but rather the motivation of the *anonymous tipster.* If Goldman calls up Apple, we *know* what Apple's motivation is -- to not comment, to downplay concerns. But this anonymous tipster at Gizmodo -- what's his motivation? Does he stand to gain financially?
- Karim
But the same thing is said for the corporations - they're protecting themselves financially, too. LOL So is it now up to us (the readers) to be critical thinkers and not allow publications to manipulate us like this? What does this mean for people like me who's subscribed to a lot of these said "credible sources"?
- Mona Nomura
I'm honestly ignorant of how Goldman was wrong with the Macbook Air, iPhone etc. but honestly I have more respect for him picking up the phone and calling Apple, and getting confirmation from multiple sources, vs. Gizmodo's single tipster. Likewise Goldman managed to get Apple to say *something,* even if it was repeating what they had already said, vs. Gizmodo's "Apple did not comment on this story after being contacted."
- Karim
lack of direct quotes aside, what Goldman did, by calling up Apple and attempting to confirm the rumor, fell into the category of fact-checking. What Gizmodo did, by reporting a rumor from a single source, fell into the category of rumor-mongering. I honestly can't see how the two are equal.
- Karim
How do you know they relied on a single tipster Karim - because they didn't go into detail who and how many people they contacted? If this was the first time Giz leaked some Apple news w/ no history of being correct, I would not believe them. But they were right three out of the three times from one source, as opposed to Goldman's multiple sources that were incorrect. Not only that, he was most recently wrong about the Zune phone - a totally different company. How credible are his sources?
- Mona Nomura
the article implies a single tipster. it refers to "a previously reliable source" (singular), "this source" (singular), "our Deep Throat" (singular). there's no reason to believe they had multiple sources. again, i know *nothing* about Goldman being "wrong" about the Zune phone -- I don't know whether the context was a prediction, a rumor, a statement of fact or what. feel free to pass along a link...
- Karim
If you want to talk track record, last year, the *exact same* author at Gizmodo, Jesus Diaz, got pwned by some 16-year-old punk in his parents' basement. see http://www.smh.com.au/news... and http://www.stuff.co.nz/4154988.... how was Gizmodo convinced that they had a credible rumor source for Apple? The 16-year-old kid just signed his email with, "Tom Oliveri, Google Marketing Product Manager." That's all.
- Karim
they ran a story about Apple products because their so-called source *claimed* to work for Google. Guess that made him unimpeachable. Gizmodo then ran a half-assed non-apology (http://gizmodo.com/286511...) that basically said, welp, we got duped, shit happens.
- Karim
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- Gadiel Rivera
Help Colbert take the #1 spot from Kanye on iTunes - http://digg.com/comedy...
"Bah Kanye is the best in hip hop and his arrogance only make him more interesting to watch lol Digg me down :]"
- Gadiel Rivera
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- Gadiel Rivera
Giant spider eating a bird caught on camera - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth...
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"Photographs of a giant spider eating a bird in an Australian garden have stunned wildlife experts. The pictures show the spider with its long black legs wrapped around the body of a dead bird suspended in its web. The startling images were reportedly taken in Atheron, close to Queensland's tropical north."
- RAPatton
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awww
- saeedeh
رونوشت به تمامی رفقای فارسی زبان . اوه اوه اوه . چقد خفنه :
- mhmazidi
pretty cool
- Cee Bee
Shelob: The Early Years
- Great Scott!
I am officially creeped out. I would go buy a keg of Raid if I found one of those things in my back yard.
- Aaron Schaub
Whoa
- Rodfather
Ugh!!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
*bump* Hey, it was asked for, don't hurt me....
- Michael W. May
Holy fucking shit. Omg. OMGOMGOMG! *runs screaming* I didn't expect that!!!!!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
You guys are mean. :-(
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
This is freaking scary to look at, but hey...spiders gotta eat
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Just came back to say I am NEVER going to Queensland. NEVER EVER EVER.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
"Liked" to counteract all the boo-hoo whine whine icky spider stuff. Folks, this is NATURE, red in tooth & claw. BEHOLD! :P
- Kamilah Gill
*cries*
- Yolanda
eeeeeeeewwwwwww!! nasty!
- Susan Beebe
Am I the only one that think this is fake?
- Gadiel Rivera
hey, throw another one on the barbie
- Victor Ryden
there's some crazy wildlife down under...
- Trent Olson
Lots of good people in and around Oz, but damn they have some strange animals.
- Jack Lhasa
Kid rages in the middle of a WoW match - http://digg.com/pc_game...
"I hope he sees all this comments!! lol"
- Gadiel Rivera
Sega Returning to the Market with Vision PMP for 2009 - http://digg.com/gaming_...
"This is a joke....Right?"
- Gadiel Rivera
Halo Wars - World Exclusive Field Trip To Harvest Trailer - http://digg.com/gaming_...
"For some reason I cant watch the video on gametrailers page...So here's the youtube link for all of you that have the same prob http://www.youtube.com/watch..."
- Gadiel Rivera
Strange Sculptures From Around the World [Lots of PICS] - http://digg.com/odd_stu...
"The first one alone convinced me to digg this XD"
- Gadiel Rivera
Mortgage forgiven for woman, 90, who shot herself - http://digg.com/world_n...
"....Ironic?"
- Gadiel Rivera
Kindle 2 Leaked - http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008...
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From Boing Boing Gadgets: "Amazon's follow-up to the Kindle rounds the corners and smooths the keyboard, dropping the "crushed origami hat" look of the original for something that looks (sort of) like it came out of Cupertino."
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
I'm buying this. Glad they got the design right finally.
- Robert Scoble
Its too bad they need that lame keyboard. I would love to see a multi touch keyboard on this. Can you blog on it?
- David Jacobs
It looks cheaper than the original, but BGR says it feels sturdier than the original and has a metal backing. For the little I read magazines, and the convenience of books (also given that I only read or reference one book at a time), I still haven't figured out a personal use case for the Kindle.
- Mark Trapp
Bah - where's the larger form factor version?
- Internet's Tad
I'm not sure this is something that'd make me think about upgrading..
- Internet's Tad
MUCH BETTER! gen 1.0 looked lame to me, so old school looking
- Susan Beebe
I'm bummed... I thought it was going to be bigger (the screen). I don't know if I like the redesign much better than the original... and why the heck did they get rid of the SD slot?? That doesn't make sense.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I am surprised they left out the SD slot...bummer
- Susan Beebe
I'd have to disagree with what was said about it looking worse then the original. I think it looks better. Although, the screen does seem smaller to me.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
meh. did the screen actually get *smaller*, or is that an optical illusion from the larger bezel? the next sony reader has a touch screen + onscreen keyboard. the Plastic Logic device will blow them both away. assuming anyone can afford it :-)
- Karim
Where's the LCD side strip from the original? It was a brilliant way to compensate for the update latency of the main display. And the rubberized back of the original seems like it would be more comfortable to hold than the metal back. And no SD slot? I was waiting for 2.0 but I think I'll be getting the first one after all.
- invariant - farewell FF
I'm anxious to see if Amazon will do a decent trade-in deal. I bought the Kindle earlier this year and love it. But the 2.0 looks way better - clearly they took in all the feedback and improved the model.
- Mari Smith
I still don't see why - I can read books on my iPhone if I need to. Why do I need a Kindle?
- Jesse Stay
i love my kindle but the one problem I would really have with this model is the loss of the SD card. I have an SD card on mine and the thing is chock full of books right now.
- Justin Long
Invariant, the LCD stripe is the menu selector. When you rotate the dial a little light goes up and down the LCD stripe to pick the option from the menu or select the line of the text you want to highlight.
- Justin Long
I'm not fully convinced about switching to e-book readers in general (a larger selection of books would help with that), but this does look like something I could buy. It is a big improvement.
- Roberto Bonini
The loss of the SD slot is a real deal breaker for me right now with this version. The only thing that would change this is if this new reader was much cheaper. Unless there are also major software overhauls on Kindle 2 I'll watch for deals on Kindle 1 as 2 comes closer to launch
- Bryan
I don't know. Design is ... rounder, a bit sleeker. Still don't see a mainstream business for this though. A solution to a problem that doesn't exist. http://usedbooksblog.com/blog...
- AJ Kohn
Well, it's a solution for MY problem, which was how to get access to books where I live in Southeast Asia without having to buy and paying to have them shipped out here. Also, how to carry around a stack of books on planes. I love my Kindle. I rarely go anywhere without my Kindle. :)
- Justin Long
you guys should look into the sony reader. it's pretty nice
- Cee Bee
I love my Sony Reader.
- dkb
Yeah this "upgrade" is all kinds of terrible. That joystick seems flimsy and the design is super ugly but that isn't the really big deal. Loss of the SD card slot is the killer here. I'd like to see how Amazon will explain that one away.
- EricaJoy
Save the books!
- Jen
IPhone Steals Lead Over Kindle http://tinyurl.com/4rmqdt "It's official: The iPhone is more popular than Amazon.com's Kindle. And not just in the obvious categories like listening to music, browsing the Web or the other applications where Kindle barely competes. Now, the iPhone is also muscling into Amazon's home turf: reading books."
- Sean McBride
Love/Hate situation here hahaha.... I like the redesign but it just looks bigger and has a smaller screen, why Amazon ..why?
- Gadiel Rivera
while the iPhone I'm sure is a great and capible device for e-books, the battery life I would think would make it hard to use it for reading, music, and as a communication device. I see the iPhone handy for notes and quick reference, but a e-book reader as a chance to move from paper to digital
- Bryan
Are we sure this is real? Is it a final version? Cuz I'm just not seeing the value-added here over the original.
- Eric P
Eric: there are a couple usability improvements (like the rounded corners, redesigned pager, keyboard, and charger), but the biggest benefit is probably that it's cheaper to produce, which would lead to cheaper prices. If they came back with a Kindle that cost $50 to $150 less, that may be the biggest value-add feature of all.
- Mark Trapp
MySpace Music Launches Tonight and It Looks Very Cool http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
This looks really cool! I really enjoy Imeem, so it will be interesting to see how MySpace Music compares. Any word on if MySpace Music's player and/or playlists will be embeddable outside of MySpace?
- Frank Sinton
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Just checked out the site...and all I can say is wow...Every freaking artist is there and for free
- Gadiel Rivera
so I started building an iphone app and I still don't see a private jet outside. Apparently this isn't the key to insta-wealth. ;-)
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Exactly is all about getting it out there and the private jets will notice you
- Gadiel Rivera
Please, newbs. Everyone knows it takes a week before you get the jets. Duh. ;)
- felix
just one more follower and i hit the 1000 followers mark. this is exciting. who shall it be? it's like waiting for christmas morning.
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I hope I put you over the edge. Cheers! Unless you are talking about Twitter...
- Alex Scoble
Following now, kudos on the 1000 when you get there!
- Stu Andrews
Congratulations!..Now you must find a way to make money out of them...no? XD
- Gadiel Rivera
There's a Vimeo favorites eruption...
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Yeah. It's a good thing Vimeo doesn't allow soft core erotica like Youtube does. Don't want to go through that again.
- Mark Trapp
I like Vimeo...Lot's of creative videos there
- Gadiel Rivera
It's kind of fun to watch
- Bwana ☠
Mark - LOL
- Hutch Carpenter
too bad it doesn't run on the iPhone though :(
- Gaby K. Slezák
I'm laughing at all the geekazoids drooling over the Google phone. They reaaaaalllly want it to be good LOL
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I'm excited because it's the first really nifty phone that won't cause me to have to change providers. That, for me, is worth getting excited over!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
It need to be good.. The iPhone needs competition. :]
- Gadiel Rivera
Gadiel, agreed. I'm more excited over the Blackberry Storm personally
- Bwana ☠
I like the design of the storm...it just looks hot but the OS on the other Blackberry's is just meh...Is the Storm gonna use a new OS or something?
- Gadiel Rivera
It has a real keyboard, and there is no crazy Apple restrictions on apps. Plus, i'm willing to bet that it has features like copy/paste.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Wow, you can't use corporate email with it, and a Google account is required to use it http://tmonews.com/2008...
- Bwana ☠
Gadiel, many are speculating the storm to use a totally revamped OS. I guess we'll have to wait and see
- Bwana ☠
Honestly, this, to me, looks like the same wave of hype that happens when something tech-oriented gets really big and popular: everyone loves it for awhile but then they begin to cheer for any underdog that comes along and attempts to dethrone it. Otherwise, we'd never see exuberant '*-killer' articles every couple of weeks. It's more underdogism.
- Akiva Moskovitz
There will be corporate email available on the G1, iPhone didn't come with it out of the box either. I can get DRM free music from Amazon directly from the phone as well.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
"Gmail account required to sign in and use, no corporate access email available." So does that mean no general POP/IMAP? Only Gmail?
- Bwana ☠
@Bwana Yes but my hope is all on the 3rd party Apps that will surely fill all the missing features.
- Gadiel Rivera
I imagine it'll be available through a downloadable app like they did to get corporate email on the iPhone.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
What downloadble app provided corporate email to the iPhone?
- Bwana ☠
No tethering on the G1 according to http://www.slashgear.com/t-mobil...
- Bwana ☠
I agree with Tina. I am mostly excited because it will be offered on my provider. I can't stand AT&T so the iPhone was a wash for me anyway. And I'm a Google fan so having to have a Google account is no biggie for me (I use Google Apps for domains for my personal stuff anyway). And $179 is a pretty dang good price for the feature set!
- Her Lindsay-ness
Lindsay, I'm hearing rumors that existing platform customers upgrading an existing phone may pay less than the 179 price point. My fingers AND toes are crossed =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
It doesn't matter if this particular phone is good or not. That's not the point. This is the first in a long line of devices that will run Android. Like the move from Prodigy Online and AOL to the open internet, this is the breakout of cell phones and other small electronic devices from closed systems.
- Mark Radigan
Understood Mark, but lack of desktop sync is going to deter those who don't want their data in the cloud. If the platform is moving in that direction, it may be a slow adoption rate. Also, how in the heck could they forget a 3.5mm headphone jack on the G1?!?!
- Bwana ☠
Yeah, agree. No 3.5mm? That's just silly.
- Mark Radigan
I'll wait until Android is on a phone that isn't fugly
- Rodfather
No 3.5. No exchange. No-go.
- © b e e n s w a n k
They forgot the 3.5mm jack the same way Apple forgot to include a memory card slot, and 3G in their 1st gen, and a keyboard, and a replaceable battery, and true 3rd party development... can't you Apple lovers just leave this thing alone for a day? We always have to sit through the damn Apple events.
- Tim Hoeck
Tim, no one sits through anything. People have been complaining about those things on the iPhone since the day it was announced. You can't expect people to pick apart the iPhone's failings and the demand them not pick apart a competitor's failings.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I hope Sony makes a handset with Android on it.
- Rodfather
To be honest Android as a software platform seems really rough to me. However, so was the Atari ST community in the 80s and it was extremely awesome. So, in that regard, I will be following the news about practical Android use closely.
- Phil G
Lack of 3.5mm is the only omission that seems silly to me. The rest of the limitations are acceptable. If it had stereo bluetooth, I'd *kind of* understand, but they are severely limiting their appeal to music lovers. I'm talking about the G1, not Android. Contrary to what you may think Tim, if any phone has flaws, I will point them out. (I love Nokia and I constantly rip them apart)
- Bwana ☠
I believe you Bwana :) I think they goofed this launch.. but my excitement is for an Android device being made available.. I won't switch to T-Mobile to get this, so I am hoping for higher-quality, feature improved phones soon, on other providers.
- Tim Hoeck
I'm completely open to purchasing a HTC touch phone and installing Android (perhaps the Fuze.) Chrome browser mobile will also be outstanding...
- Czar
Let's see: I don't use my phone for music so the jack isn't a real issue for me. Data in the cloud isn't too much an issue IMO since I can use gears to back GDocs up to my PC. And since I'm already w/ TMobile: the order has been officially placed for my G1.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
The big reason why I would like A2DP on a smartphone is not especially for music.. bluetooth stereo quality is sort of crap.. but so that I can listen to program and game sound effects in the headset instead of the speaker.
- Phil G
So, Bwana, are you laughing at the "geekazoids" because you bought an iPhone? Do you see the irony? :-)
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
so a friend of mine who works at Google showed me his brand spanking new G1 and it's a lot more handsome in person. The screen slide motion is very satisfying and the keyboard, while not superlative, isn't bad. Android seems to work smoothly and I heard that POP/IMAP is available in a separate app. Data in the cloud is fine by me. I'll wait till it (read: Android) is on a good 3G network (read: Sprint) and has Exchange, then I'll probably make the jump (hehe, I almost convinced myself to jump to T-Mob).
- Chieze Okoye
Slippy, I also bought a Blackberry, and a Nokia E61 so no, I don't see the irony
- Bwana ☠
Today @ PC World Android Priced at $199: Can T-Mobile Mimic the iPhone's Success? - http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffbl...
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T-Mobile will announce a $199 price tag next week during a press conference for its much anticipated handset dubbed "Dream," according to reports. The phone, made by device maker HTC and that uses an operating system designed by Android/Google, is one of the most anticipated new phones since the release of Apple's iPhone.
- Leo Laporte
Ummmm... Leo - they said $179.
- Internet's Tad
I don't use phones, I use telepathy, more secure also :-)
- Denis
It has a real keyboard, and there is no crazy Apple restrictions on apps. Plus, i'm willing to bet that it has features like copy/paste.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
It's 179, though I believe existing customers upgrading a phone will pay a lower price (w00t!)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Jason Plus you can use the DRM free Amazon MP3 store to buy music directly from the phone :D
- Gadiel Rivera
How much space for mp3s/files? 8Gig?
- Les Zaldor
Yes 8Gig...But not sure if you can add space
- Gadiel Rivera
1GB built in.
- Jamie
I haven't kept up on Android news at all. Does anyone know when/if it will be available on Sprint?
It's Locked to T-Mobile...So you will have to wait until someone unlocks it.
- Gadiel Rivera
VentureBeat reported last week: "We’re now hearing from multiple sources that the Sprint Android phone will have “other functionality” than the Dream, and will definitely be out by 2009." meaning be out in 2009. http://bit.ly/sprintandroid
- David Vasileff
Android Community Live Event Coverage - http://live.androidcommunity.com/
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Live Blogging the T-Mobile Android Event (exciting and important)
- Internet's Tad
from Bookmarklet
Last thing I need is another gadget, but I'm guessing I'm one of the few people on FF already on T-Mobile, so I might have to consider getting one. You know, for the common good... =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
blah blah blah nothing interesting yet
- Internet's Tad
Yeah Tina - I'm on T-Mobile too, and I hate AT&T so this will be my iPhone!
- Internet's Tad
"Because of it's openness, you can modify or make the platform better. We think Android is future-proof. It has openness built in."
- Internet's Tad
WOOHOO!!! I hate AT&T too!!! =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tad, any idea what he means by 'gesture control'?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I've seen folks draw on it with their finger, make a pattern to unlock the phone, but i don't know if that's it...
- Internet's Tad
Live video feed here: http://announcement.t-mobileg1.com/ (wish I'd known about that earlier!!)
- Internet's Tad
I lose either way, T-Mobile has the worst coverage here, and I will not be going the AT&T route for numerous reasons. Verizon, while having flawless coverage, has either crap for phones, or cripples the hell out of them. :-(
- cmiper
Yeah, Verizon is evil. Back in the day I had a Verizon phone and asked a sales guy if they supported Java. He said, "Pffft! Java is so obsolete. Our technology is vastly superior." He had no examples or understanding of what he was talking about.
- Internet's Tad
Everything is consistently branded, but so much lower key than anything from Apple. It's super refreshing though to hear a company talk about how important open source software is. I still don't believe that T-Mobile is really going to let this new phone truly be open. Would be so awesome if so!
- Internet's Tad
And I just got a new phone from T-Mobile... I love T-mobile, haven't had any major issues with them, and I've been with them for almost 2 years. Wonder if I can trade in my T-Mobile Dash for a T-mobile G1... ?
- Les Zaldor
$179/phone - $25/mo unlimited internet, $35/mo unlimited internet and unlimited messaging
- Internet's Tad
$179 price tag...Pretty good price me thinks :]..
- Gadiel Rivera
@tad - same general price structure as BlackBerry
- Todd Jordan
Avail Oct 27. Can't have a data plan with no voice plan.
- Internet's Tad
I had Verizon but dropped them out of spite (they bought MCI then closed my center). Les, they're saying existing customers can order online starting today...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Simlocked to t-mobile. Does that mean you can only use it with t-mobile? I think so.
- Internet's Tad
No initial desktop synchronization.
- Internet's Tad
Also has wifi connectivity.
- Internet's Tad
omg - I'm live blogging.
- Internet's Tad
Yes Tad, it does. I don't know what T-Mobiles voice plans are like, but I currently have my original SunCom plan (split across 2 phones) and am pleased with it. Adding the $35 data plan would bring my bill to $110/month for the two lines.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
synchs to google, yahoo, msn, etc.
- Internet's Tad
Uses the webkit browser. "Chrome-lite"
- Internet's Tad
viewed as more of a consumer device instead of an enterprise device.
- Internet's Tad
Won't support skype as it comes out. I wonder how they'll block that if it's all open source?
- Internet's Tad
Google Founders Sergey & Brin are talking - no Steve Jobs these guys are. Blah blah blah. I'm expecting them to start singing or something...
- Internet's Tad
@Just A Tad- I don't think they will...Is just like the Exchange thing, it wont support it when it comes out but it will let 3rd party Apps support it.
- Gadiel Rivera
i haven't heard whether or not the browser supports javascript as well as the iPhone, but I'm prety sure it does. Surely they wouldn't ship a suckier browser...?
- Internet's Tad
@Tad we have Skype straight in the box ;)
- A.T.
Who's we?
- Internet's Tad
I would imagine, Tad, that 'chrome-lite' would support javascript. At least I'm hoping
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yeah - I just haven't seen a good video demo of the browser yet.
- Internet's Tad
JamLegend :: Music Gaming Unleashed - http://jamlegend.com/login.jsp
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That will be new hero of guitar lovers! Enjoyable guitar tool I have ever loved! THIS IS A HI-STARTUP!
- Erhan Erdogan
I watched the video on the main page and it looks really interesting...Anyone has an invite they could share?
- Gadiel Rivera
Gadiel: http://friendfeed.com/e... Paul S. reviewed it excellent, and has too many invites http://jamlegend.com/registe... ; )
- Erhan Erdogan
have been playing the game for a while...and I can say for sure that I love it... the multiplayer aspect is really good... One question, I have finished some songs and have gotten some major note streaks but I have not earned any achievements and in my profile it says that I have not played any songs yet.. does it always take a while to catch-up with your activity?
- Gadiel Rivera
Gadiel: I have no idea about scores. It will be classical - but you should try again IMO. ; )
- Erhan Erdogan
Apple’s Running Out of 8G iPhones - http://digg.com/apple...
"LOLOLOLOL 8G!?....LOL"
- Gadiel Rivera
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