Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- Renchin(Reina)Wang
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
علی حجوانی تو روحت، ای واسه چه موقعیه؟ :)))
- Mehran
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
But no one makes love like Neil Patrick Harris is dancing? FAIL!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
My brother in law in the Philippines can't be dissuaded from naming his son Elmo. I hope that unborn boy is ready to be tormented for the rest of his life. Why do parents do that to their kids?
- Bradley Farless
You know, in my heart I hope that people like NPH who seem just so damn awesome on the screen are just as cool in real life. Anyone met the fellow in person?
- Adam Lasnik
I'm sure he's a decent guy. Never met him, though.
- Josh Haley
But he sure can dance, just look at him go!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Love him when he's unicorn watching.
- Gabrielle V
Okay, I swear I am not just pimpin' good swing music, but I was looking at this GIF and listening to this song - http://lala.com/zPe9 ("Billie's Bounce" performed live by Buddy Rich) - and it matches! :o
- Adam Lasnik
Gross. I just unliked to be contrary. Yet another reason why I pulled back from FriendFeed. And why getting swallowed up by Facebook, the great leveler, couldn't make more sense.
- Rick Powell
That's right, all you horrible time-wasters you! Get back to talking about kernels and APIs! Have you no Protestant work-ethic? /sarcasm
- Neal Jansons
Ok, let's forget about the ACORN video sting for now. I still say ACORN should be thoroughly investigated before getting any further funding by the government - here's why.
Last week, 11 of its workers were accused by Florida prosecutors of falsifying information on 888 voter registration forms. Last month, Acorn's former Las Vegas, Nev., field director, Christopher Edwards, agreed to testify against the group in a case in which Las Vegas election officials say 48% of the voter registration forms the group turned in were "clearly fraudulent." Acorn itself is charged with 13 counts of illegally using a quota system to compensate workers in an effort to boost the number of registrations.
- Sharon McPherson
Marcel Reid is one of eight national Acorn board members who were removed last year after demanding an audit of the group's books. She notes that Acorn received $7.4 million in contributions from the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) between 2005 and 2008, but actively fights unionization efforts by its own employees. Ms. Reid also notes that Acorn was sanctioned by the National Labor Relations Board in 2003 for illegally firing workers trying to organize a union.
- Sharon McPherson
Wade Rathke, who founded Acorn in 1970 and was its long-time leader, was forced by the group's board to resign last year after it found that he'd engaged in a cover-up of a nearly $1 million embezzlement of Acorn funds by his brother Dale, then the group's chief financial officer.
- Sharon McPherson
UPDATE: ACORN, calling the actions of some of its employees "indefensible," has suspended advising new clients as part of its service programs and is setting up an independent review to see what happened. ACORN chief executive Bertha Lewis said in a written statement that she was "ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN's service programs until completion of an independent...
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- Sharon McPherson
Wow, and to think that just a couple of days ago Lewis was quoted as saying, "It is clear that the videos are doctored, edited, and in no way the result of the fabricated story being portrayed by conservative activist ‘filmmaker’ O’Keefe and his partner in crime.’ And, in fact, a crime it was—our lawyers believe a felony—and we will be taking legal action against Fox and their co-conspirators." Any guess on what OR who made her change her tune?
- Sharon McPherson
This is quite interesting actually (and there is still a question of video doctoring, that hasn't really changed) - and while I would wager Lewis (via ACORN) is still pursuing action against Fox affiliates (I haven't seen anything to the contrary; please correct me if you've found something on that - because I *do* think there is a very valid concern there, particularly given Murdoch's...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
For what it is worth, I can't remember where I read it, but James O’Keefe, the young man who filmed these videos, said that he and Giles paid for this out of their own pockets. He stated that the reason they took the videos to FOX News is because they figured they would be laughed out had they gone to any of the MSM organizations. Given the silence on this story until today by the MSM,...
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- Sharon McPherson
I say Citibank, Blackwater (or whatever they're calling themselves nowadays), Halliburton, Exxon, etc. etc. should be investigated. They've caused a hell of a lot more problems in the world than ACORN--and get a lot more of our money to boot. ACORN's comparative impact is about as big as, well, an acorn compared to the greed, vice, corruption, and sometimes pure evil being wrought on...
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- Steve Lowe
This from ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper's blog. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, asked by ABC News about recent government actions taken against ACORN, had a forceful response. "Obviously the conduct you see on those tapes is completely unacceptable," Gibbs said. "The administration takes accountability extremely seriously." He pointed out that "previous administrations" had awarded grants to ACORN either through the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
- Sharon McPherson
I agree that said companies should also be investigated. *shakes head* But it won't happen. I don't know that it's entirely because of conservatives in general avoiding the issue...I suspect it's more likely the pockets backing up said organizations. ACORN, as a decent organization at its core for going on 40 years, is not impervious to scandal (naturally) - and of course there is a...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
He's correct, ACORN's accountability and responsibility should have been a matter of concern during the Clinton administration when the mortgage problem first began. Since it wasn't, the Bush administration should have picked up the gauntlet when the problem turned into a full-blown crisis. Obama critics try to place the blame for our financial situation on Obama's shoulders, but it can't be done because the collapse began long before he took office.
- Sharon McPherson
There are a lot of things Obama's being blamed for that he isn't. Granted, when he voted aye on the bailout, I was just as pissed at him as the rest of Congress, but that is an entirely different subject - LOL
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Something that I'll bet not very many people know, is that Rathke and ACORN had endorsed Clinton when he was a 32-year-old candidate for Governor of Arkansas.
- Sharon McPherson
While it is true that President Obama isn't responsible for our current financial situation, if he doesn't put a stop to the wide-spread spending, I am fearful of the financial burden that will be placed on the backs of my children and grandchildren.
- Sharon McPherson
He can't do it alone. He needs the help of Congress...and that's a huge "we'll see"...
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I still don't think we should "forget" about the videos.
- Michael Forian
You're right Michael, I guess I should have said, putting aside the ACORN videos - for the duration of this thread - which is meant to show that there's more than just the undercover 'video sting' that warrants an investigation of the organization.
- Sharon McPherson
Louis, have you tried Skitch? I've found it to be much faster to deal with for blog post screen shot editing than Photoshop. I use Photoshop only for the heavy stuff.
- Jesse Stay
Thanks Louis. I think that the real credit should go to the quality of your share items feeds and your enthusiasm for Google Reader. I think that platform needs a few advocates like you and jenna to really flourish.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, you should do a series of blog post to recommend who to follow on Google Reader (like you do for Friendfeed). Mahendra (http://friendfeed.com/skeptic...) is trying to get the ball rolling on Google Reader people recommdation
- Andre P. Siregar
Well, to be fair, I think you found me first - but I don't know how? ;)
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
"By our count, Rangel simultaneously claimed three “primary residences.” The first is where he really lives, in three rent-stabilized Harlem apartments, for which he does not qualify, based on his income. He actually had four, but gave one up in the wake of reports that he was using it as a campaign office, prompting NLPC to file a Complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging that he violated election law."
- Craig Eddy
from Bookmarklet
"I just want you to imagine sitting across from an IRS auditor trying to explain how you failed to report: credit union balances, several investment accounts, vacant properties in New Jersey, stocks in your portfolio, rental income from a Costa Rican villa, etc. I dare say you and I would be treated slightly different than has this U.S. Congressman."
- Craig Eddy
from Bookmarklet
"This man who has consistently underreported his own income to avoid taxation is not only pushing for a 5.6% tax surcharge on the wealthiest of us but even declares that paying more is “the moral thing to do.” He is a leading figure in a government hell bent on expanding into many aspects of our lives, yet going out of its way to exempt itself both from the programs themselves as well as having to pay for said expansion. "
- Craig Eddy
"As quoted in the Wall Street Journal, FTC attorney Janet Evans said “this does not appear to be responsible activity.” What’s not responsible is the FTC wasting taxpayer resources wondering what color beer cans we are drinking out of."
- Craig Eddy
from Bookmarklet
Mayybe next they can form a comission to determine how many tines our forks should have.
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
It's good to live in "Nazi" France, right now. Have those people (edit: those who consider that a "socialized" healthcare makes a country Nazi) ) ever visited Europe? They should.
- Jérôme Flipo
"It's not your right to tell us that what insurance we can keep." Quite well said.
- Craig Eddy
Jerome: "those people", if you're referring to the Marine, are why you don't live in Nazi France right now. Please do not ever forget that.
- Craig Eddy
Wow that was a very passionate person speaking out for our country.
- Russ Jackson
personally, whatever side of the healthcare debate you may be one, I think it's great that we live in a country where this is possible.
- Thomas Hawk
I bet his speech was written by the same people who wrote Sarah Palin's speeches in the last election. He's an actor. He took acting lessons to be like that. And they tested those lines in focus groups and knew they'd work. You're being spun, Thomas. No it's not great that we live in a country where this is possible.
- Dave Winer
Happily living in Nazi England. Craig, the fact that the guy was a marine is completely irrelevant, you know, and I bet Jérôme does too. I imagine 'those people' are the ones dumb enough to equate a national health care system to the Nazi party.
- Paul Grav
Thomas, aren't you sad that a healthcare reform brings excessive references, so far from the issues? We had the campaign for a European constitution that brought stupid remarks, but it remained reasonable. It's great to have free speech, but it's very sad to use it this way.
- Jérôme Flipo
LOL the rhetoric people is ramping up over there huh, you know its a lost argument when people start evoking Godwins law.
- MarkEdmondson
Paul: it was a dual reference to Ms. Pelosi's assertion that those opposed to President Obama's plans were Nazi's, wore swastika's, or something like that. Basically throwing back in her face that what she was accusing those opposed of being, was actually more reminiscent of what she wants to do. So I don't believe he was "equating" the two, merely pointing out they did control the health care system (among other economic facets). And, Jerome, there was nothing unreasonable in what the man said.
- Craig Eddy
Why's he pointing out that the German health system was controlled by the Nazis? He didn't make a single argument against Obama's health plan, just dumb rhetoric. Why not stick to the issues and have an intelligent debate?
- Paul Grav
"The government should not control our health care choices" is not dumb rhetoric, at least not to this dumb American.
- Craig Eddy
That's a pretty cynical interpretation of his remarks Dave. Maybe he actually believes that way. The guy who sent me the link is someone I know personally who is not an actor, is a vet, and feels the same way.
- Thomas Hawk
WTF. Since when have the Nazis been leftist? They *define* Fascism.
- James Myatt
It would help the health care discussion immensely if those opposed to the government proposals would clearly state their position based on facts, and not generate fear with various rhetoric, half-truths or downright lies. Right now it just has the appearance that a vocal minority is trying to force their agenda on the rest of the voting public.
- Nils Sandin
That marine is an idiot: "The nazis were leftist"? Really? This man is in dire need of some basic history education. But yes, it is a good thing that he can say what he feels. Still does not make it true, though.
- Rene Wirtz
Craig, as a fellow American & supporter of our men & women in uniform - I can appreciate your passion on this subject - but if you actually are buying what "David the Marine Corps vet" is selling - then you're as in dire need of education of history as he is.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I assume this disabled Marine isn't relying on the VA at all.
- Rob Haas
The debate has become about if your left or right. This is exactly what the two parties want to see happen. They want us fighting among ourselves so they can continue to remain in power. We all need to stop acting like we're ignorant and uneducated and start working together as Americans, otherwise we'll be speaking Chinese and answering to them.
- Russ Jackson
Unlike many peoples opinion it doesn't take a speech writer to write what is on your heart. The man is a disabled vet that put his life on the line for this country. He expects the leaders to do what is right according to their oaths. Our leaders are supposed to be the voice of the people in the country not of their own agendas. When the two separate it creates a logical division and...
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- James Stratford
@Stephen M. Otto: I take that book with the same grain of salt (actually more of a salt mine) as the link between Al Qaeda and Iraq.
- Rene Wirtz
More pathetic fear mongering from the right. I'd really prefer healthy debate but fear and slander is almost always the recourse of those on the loosing end of an issue. Its not like the Nazis originated the use of fear, hate and intimidation to control a population. Concentration camps and genocide have absolutely nothing to do with the development of European socialism. This is all just frame play. http://berkeley.edu/news...
- Rafael Robayna
+1 Rafael. And Europeans know this, because they've lived through it.
- Rene Wirtz
@Stephen: Considering the author of that book, it's not a relevant source that anyone with half a brain would take remotely seriously. So the idiot tag would be appropriate in this instance.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Rene and Denise: Until you folks read the book, I don't think your comments are credible.
- Stephen M. Otto
@Stephen: that is your prerogative :-) And I will still defend your right to spout things that are far from correct :-)
- Rene Wirtz
And, since this book is a #1 bestseller with a whole slew of very serious, very positive reviews on Amazon, to persist in your evaluation of this guy as an idiot for calling extreme leftists fascists is ridiculous and shows that you are not being impartial in your approach. You risk being tagged an "idiot" yourself. :)
- Stephen M. Otto
Stephen, the fact that a book is a #1 best seller means nothing to me. I don't let how many millions of sales a book make change the fact that I think for myself. Simply following a "best selling" book doesn't make anyone any smarter for it. Look at how many diet books are out there. And not to put to fine a point on it, the #1 best selling book of ALL time happens to be the bible. Look at the idiots who follow that.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Denise, my point is that it is a credible point of view, worthy of rationale argument, and cannot be summarily dismissed as "idiotic". The Bible also presents a credible point of view. If you want to try to argue that the Bible is not credible, you will succeed in showing us that you are just as extreme as the gentleman in the video, with the difference being that you come from the opposite end of the spectrum. Neither positions are productive in this debate.
- Stephen M. Otto
I never said I was averse to reading views different from mine - that was your misguided assumption. My point is that I don't let the status of a book on the market sway my opinion - and that wasn't my point about the bible either. The point is, from my standpoint, ANYONE can make a point. Hell, Stephen, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Going back to the man at the mike here?...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
And yes, I do think that vet is an idiot. He, of all people, should know more about history, given his military career. I don't think Mr. Goldberg is an idiot, though. He's wrong, but that is just my opinion.
- Rene Wirtz
Free speech is not to be regulated like diseased cattle and impure butter. The audience that hissed yesterday may applaud today, even for the same performance. William O. Douglas
- Russ Jackson
ProsePetals (aka Denise): I don't need to "buy what he's selling" to believe as he believes about the proper role of government in the U.S. And I certainly don't need more education, but thanks for your mis-placed concern.
- Craig Eddy
*chuckle* Craig - the proper role of government is the protection of its citizens, in a nutshell. And you're welcome.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Protection of its citizens does not include asking (asking, nay, forcing) me or anyone else to pay for someone else's health care, nor does it include forcing me into a plan I do not want while making a better plan I could potentially afford unavailable. And some of the versions of the bills being bandied about do those things.
- Craig Eddy
Good thing you edited that last comment, because you would have gotten a very quick sarcastic response. As to this - you already *do* pay for others' healthcare. Or has that never occurred to you? And be thankful you and other tax-payers do - because if you are ever in a position to need it, you'll know that you paid into it as well.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Craig, we all, by virtue of taxes, pay into medicaid. Is the system abused? Yes. That's a separate matter. However, it is there for a reason. And guess what? The country didn't slip into communism back when medicaid/welfare became available state-to-state. And nobody's asking you to pull the plug on anyone's grandma, either.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Obviously I know about the Medicare taxes sucked from monthly incomes. Do you ever wonder why they won't tell you how much that system really costs?
- Craig Eddy
@Craig: And further to that, maybe if your house is on fire you should NOT call 911, because you don't want these government paid (socialists!) officials to come rescue you. (http://www.socialmedian.com/story...)
- Rene Wirtz
I will GLADLY pay my real estate taxes to pay for services to protect MY house from fire or burglary. I won't pay for you to protect yours though. Sorry Rene, your analogy is misplaced.
- Craig Eddy
Denise: I'm not a big fan of paying for someone else to enjoy services when they could do what I've done and pay for their own. I hardly think it's fair to ask me to do so.
- Craig Eddy
Craig, to your response to Rene, the magic number on your tax dollars is not solely for YOUR benefit. It covers you, your neighbors, your friends, and even people you dislike. You don't actually own a corner of the police and firefighters for yourself. Further, to assume that everyone is on state assistance because they're "just lazy" is a sweeping generalization that is grossly unfair...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
And Craig - since when do real estate taxes cover protections to your home in the event of fire or burglary? It's county/state level taxes that pays police & firefighters.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Regardless of WHERE exactly the tax $ come from, or whether we're discussing medicare or medicaid, my point still stands: I'll pay my share for my services; my government has no right to force me to pay for someone else's share.
- Craig Eddy
@Craig: then I really hope you don't lose your job, your house and your health, because it would kinda suck having no safety net.
- Rene Wirtz
Hey Rene, I made my own safety nets. Thanks though. And the great thing about free economies is that anyone else can do the same thing.
- Craig Eddy
Craig - technically the government doesn't have rights at all. The government is an institution. Perhaps you should look up the definition and application of rights. Further, I know that you feel safe and secure with your seeming MLM safety net...which is very nice for you and all, but your opinion on where your tax dollars are spent and how you view your role in the grander scheme of...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@Craig: so what about the rest of your extended family, all your friends and co-workers, are they all as secure as you are? Are you going to help them out if something nefarious happens to them?
- Rene Wirtz
@Rene: they all have the same opportunities I've had. Your question is way too hypothetical to answer with any certaintude. WOULD I help them out? I'll VOLUNTARILY help just about anyone and everyone. But I get to decide who my help will go to & how much. I'd prefer not to be told under the penalty of law. We all (in this discussion at least) want the same things for people, we just disagree on the best way to make it happen. And we'll never agree, so this discussion is a bit pointless.
- Craig Eddy
Denise: Not that it's any of your business, but no, never in the military or a government employee.
- Craig Eddy
Craig - you're right. It isn't my business. But it explains a bit about you.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I'm a pretty simple dude, Denise. With pretty simple beliefs. It makes my life easier to live. Not much explanation necessary.
- Craig Eddy
Further, Craig- do you REALLY believe that everyone has the exact same opportunities you have had? That honestly sounds like something straight out of an Amway "Go Diamond" guide - where they tell you that "being poor is a sin" and try to use the bible to justify it. You're probably an otherwise very nice guy - and on any other subject we'd likely get along...but quite frankly on this...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Wow Denise. Thanks. Have a great day, cause this conversation is over. Naive and self-absorbed? Right.
- Craig Eddy
Clearly, the truth stings a bit when it's stated that baldly. Cheers. :)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@Craig: I call BS on you helping out just about anyone or everyone. You realize full well that medical costs accumulate to extremely high numbers and quickly as well, so I appreciate the fact that you would help out (and I truly believe you will) but it really will only be a drop in the ocean, unless you are willing to go bankrupt, in which case you will have my undoubted admiration. Hence the fact that a "global" safety net is not a bad idea altogether.
- Rene Wirtz
Anyone or everyone in my life, Rene. I believe that's how the question was phrased. And I call BS that a global (or even a national) safety net will ultimately provide more net benefit than it will cause harm to the system as a whole.
- Craig Eddy
@Craig: finally something we can agree on :-) Yes, the risk is definitely there that it could cause harm, but to me that is not a viable reason to dismiss it altogether. You could say that an army can cause more harm to the system as well but you don't do away with that either.
- Rene Wirtz
The moment you say that your taxes should only serve to benefit YOU...Craig, no offense, but that's not what taxes are about. Of course - you *do* have a choice. You *could* choose to not pay taxes. Then you wouldn't have to worry about those hard-earned dollars actually going to benefit anyone except for you. The choice, however, has consequences. And not everyone, Craig, who is...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Yeah, whatever x 2. How about that one?
- Craig Eddy
I didn't say my taxes should ONLY benefit me. But if we're going to pay for public services, why should I pay more for the same service than my neighbor? If we went to a restaurant and ordered the same dinner, wouldn't you expect we'd each pay the same amount? Why should we have different menus?
- Craig Eddy
And it is a fundamental belief of mine (not one I "learned" from somewhere, or that needs "further" learning), that everyone in America CAN be an entrepreneur. Everyone CAN pull themselves out of their individual cess pools. If you choose not to, you choose not to. Naive? Maybe. But then I never really asked for your opinion of me.
- Craig Eddy
You shouldn't have different menus in a restaurant. However, taxes are income based - those pesky little things we call percentages. And just because I, for instance might pay a less or more than you, based on the percentage - we still drive on the same highways and roads...for example. If my income is higher than yours, wouldn't it make sense that my taxes might be a little higher...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@Craig: Good point. And that's where the opportunity comes in. You had the opportunity to get out of life what you wanted. Not everyone is able to, so in that sense it makes sense, because it is fair, that you pay a little extra towards those less fortunate.
- Rene Wirtz
But honestly, I rather have that belief than the belief that other people require my help or they're doomed. That seems rather demeaning to them.
- Craig Eddy
It was a fundamental belief only a hundred years ago that women had inferior brains than men (Victorian physicians pressed this). It was a fundamental belief a few hundred years ago that the earth was flat. No - not everyone has the same advantages...or the same abilities. You're discounting one group I can think of off the top of my head. You're saying that someone who is mentally ill should have your same aptitude?
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@Craig: I think you can turn that last statement into something positive: with my help people who may seem doomed may actually make something of their life :-)
- Rene Wirtz
@ProsePetals The government is not an institution. The US government is a Republic. Furthermore the constitution clearly defines the role of our government and even has a bill of rights built in.
- Russ Jackson
Russ - our government is a Constitutional Republic, yes. You & I clearly took the same history class. You're mighty smart there. However, the government, being a THING, cannot have rights. The individuals who *run* the government have rights. Thanks for playing
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Rene, there are probably examples of people from EVERY walk of life, from EVERY situation, from EVERY inner city project or backwoods hollow, who HAVE made it. They were no more special than the ones who didn't. And, "with my help people who may seem doomed may actually make something of their life" is a paraphrase of my personal mission statement (but then again, I am naive and self-absorbed, so, you know...)
- Craig Eddy
Ah Craig, you took my statement personally - and I meant no offense. There are some very DECENT, but self absorbed people out there. Televangelists come to mind. They mean well, but....
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Denise, "the individuals who run the government"? No, sorry, but the CITIZENS are the ones with the rights. The government employees do not have the "rights" (except for the ones they enjoy as citizens).
- Craig Eddy
Craig - thanks for underscoring my point. ;) None of those "individuals" are a collective. The government, however, is a collective. :)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Oh, and Russ? It's your (?) group, American Politics, is it? The one that states: "American politics is a place to share free debate, discussion and disagreement. A place for believing that if you speak, others will listen. A home for your political life, with the news, views, friends and foes that come with it." Correct? You won't mind if I point out to you that eliminating my threads...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Way to misconstrue what I said all together. I did not say the government was a thing you did by calling it an institution.
- Russ Jackson
Russ - it's not in any way misconstrued. The government is an institution in much the same way marriage is an institution, but not quite in the same way a hospital is an institution. You're busy playing semantics games - but the bottom line, the government is a THING, comprised of individuals who are elected into office by citizens. As individuals, the government officials have...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
The US government is not a collective either it is a republic. So which is it @prosepetals is government a republic, a collective, or an institution? Can't be all three. As for American Politics I don't tolerate people who comment and feel the need after commenting to also leave a snide remark. Case in point you commented and felt the urge to also personalize the comment at the end with Thanks for playing. You can comment without antagonizing others.
- Russ Jackson
@Russ, apparently, she cannot comment without antagonizing others. She's learned from her cohorts how to attack the messenger at least as much as the message. :) (<- added the smilie to make it all alright)
- Craig Eddy
Actually, Russ, a government CAN be all three. Our government - an institution - is (by definition of the founding fathers) is a Constitutional Republic. Any government, like any organization, like any institution, (et cetera ad nauseam) is a collective. If you have difficulty understanding that concept, think of the definition of collective, which is "done by or characteristic of...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
And Craig, that is actually entirely untrue. This is your first encounter with me, so you really have no call to accuse me of ad hominem attack at all, just because I asked you direct questions and offered up my (admittedly unsolicited) opinion of your answers...(oops, hit enter too quick). To be fair, Craig, I don't think badly of you at all. You seem like an otherwise nice guy. *shrug*
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Sorry @prosepetals a collective is the same as socialism and you can not actually believe that A republic can be the same as a collective. You are playing games with words and defining them the way you want to conform to your view of the world.
- Russ Jackson
You did it again @prosepetals you just had to antagonize @craig with *shrug* at the end of your comment.
- Russ Jackson
Russ - when using the term "collective" in terms of government TYPE, you would be correct. However, when using the term "collective" generically, it has nothing to do with government type. For instance, a baseball team is a collective. Further, my *shrug* had nothing to do with antagonizing Craig at all. That is your warped interpretation of a physical action that can be defined a...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
(Thomas, my apologies for my part in completely over-commenting in your post)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I do want to "pay extra to those less fortunate", and I do, through my personal charitable giving. The government would have you believe that paying taxes and charitable giving are the same thing. I beg to differ, strongly.
- Stephen M. Otto
Let's not forget about all of the hospitals that we have in this country that are affiliated with Christian groups and denominations. The American people are more than willing to supply care without the government middlemen.
- Stephen M. Otto
There is a major difference between charity and taxes: Charity is voluntary. I don't mind helping the less fortunate. I do mind being told that I have to help them or go to prison.
- Otto
I actually wouldn't mind if charitable giving were mandatory, provided I could give the money directly to the benefitting individuals or entities, and provided I could choose their identity, within reason. Let's cut out the unnecessary middlemen. For example, what if I just gave my payroll tax dollars to the local hospital?
- Stephen M. Otto
Stephen: You said, "Let's not forget about all of the hospitals that we have in this country that are affiliated with Christian groups and denominations." -- That is not a correct statement (unless I'm misreading your intended meaning *with* the statement - would you mind clarifying?)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
His statement seems reasonably straightforward to me. There's lots of hospitals in this country that are religious in nature. I would not want my charitable giving going to a religious organization, regardless of the purpose of the gift. I'd prefer my giving to go to secular organizations instead.
- Otto
Otto: I think I misread the statement, unintentionally, which is why I asked the question. I meant no offense whatsoever *by* questioning it - I think where I misread it was the word "about" - if that makes sense.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
My point is that there are, and always have been, alot of private charity dollars in the healthcare system. I'm guessing that the greater the role of the government in the system, the more scarce these dollars will become. What impact will this have on a system that the government thinks will be more economical due to government involvement?
- Stephen M. Otto
Why can't we lift current government restrictions on the insurance companies that prohibits them from competing across state lines? I think that whenever you have run-away costs, and whenever it appears that a player in the market is engaging in price engaging, it is because the government has done something to cripple the free market from operating effectively to protect the consumer.
- Stephen M. Otto
Stephen: You're referring to McCain's suggestion here about further deregulation. The problems such lifting of restrictions causes is less problematic on a government level - but *increases* difficulty for consumers/beneficiaries, because there are actually state-to-state regulations related to healthcare. It's less to do with the free market in action than it is to do with the...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Stephen: you said, "I actually wouldn't mind if charitable giving were mandatory, provided I could give the money directly to the benefitting individuals or entities, and provided I could choose their identity, within reason. Let's cut out the unnecessary middlemen. For example, what if I just gave my payroll tax dollars to the local hospital?" I had to ponder this - and actually, on...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Also, Stephen, when we're looking at this from a protectionary standpoint, it's *not* about the free market, beyond affording private insurers competition. Much of this debate stems from insurance companies fighting *any* competition from the government. People are up in arms because they think that if the government adds a public option to what's there, then there will be some sort of...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
(which, going back to the video that sparked this thread, is one of several points of contention I find with the "USMC vet's" position on the subject, even while I agree about the points of the 1st Amendment - I have serious doubts about the veracity of the man's identification as a former military servicemember because of the way I know how Tricare operates - and the reality that it is now subcontracted out to civilian companies for claims' adjudication.)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Interesting, I guess, but I don't comprehend the results. For instance, "management." Does that mean people think you are in management? That you manage things well? What does this search, and how does it decide what to include and exclude?
- Charles LePage
The application is pretty cool, but if you don't have a huge online presence or are not written about a lot, it ends pretty quick. Use Brett Favre's name and watch it go.
- Otto R. Radke
What is it with the Left and their disdain for people who don't agree with them? Are they that elitist that if you don't agree with their position, you must be a "retard" or a "conservatard"?
- Craig Eddy
He doesn't need "legal" authority. THEY play by different rules than you and I have to live by, and that happens on both sides of the aisle. That's why WE need to take our country back.
- Craig Eddy
Jenna is doing an amazing job here. Will she be the new Matt Cutts?
- Jérôme Flipo
I think she will be the next Jenna Bilotta. She has recently become more visible here, which is greatly appreciated, but I believe her role is much different than that of Matt's.
- Louis Gray
I feel like by using feedly I am missing the conversations. Am I wrong?
- Amani
Amani, if you don't see comments, yes you are missing the conversations. Feedly does have a great number of benefits though. You just have to decide what is important to you.
- Louis Gray
Amani: you are right: we only partially support comments: you can view and participate in comments when you open a article which includes comments but we do not currently offer the comments view which let's you know which comments have been updated, etc... Personally, I think that Friendfeed (and in some way twitter and facebook) offer a better social model for Google Reader this is why...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
There are now 43 comments on this article from a share I made in Google Reader. :)
- Louis Gray
I am probably missing something pretty obvious about making my shared items more accessible but I am going to ask anyway. Louis, you said you reorganisd your contacts and made sure each group could access your shared items. Was that just a process of allocating contacts to specific groups and enabling sharing access? Did you then go through your lists and manually locate their shared feeds and follow them or can that be automated once your contacts are organised?
- Paul Jacobson
What I've done, Paul, is added every single contact into a group called "Friends" and enabled Friends to see the items. Originally, I was not assigning people to groups at all, so they could see the shares, but not comment. That was my mistake. I had to go to "Sharing Settings", then People I follow and add everybody to the folder.
- Louis Gray
Ah, right! Thanks for the explanation. I just created a group for "Reader friends" and pretty much added the people I follow and the people who are following me to that group. I love FriendFeed and at the same time I am pretty excited about what is going on in Google Reader.
- Paul Jacobson
This morning I awoke to the sound of my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the Public Power Monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. http://www.matthewgood.org/2009...
A cheeky squirrel in Alberta's Banff National Park has gone viral after stealing the spotlight in a tourist's photo. Melissa Brandts, who was visiting from Minnesota, had set up her camera on a tripod to capture her and her husband, Jackson, in front of picturesque Lake Minnewanka in May. "We had our camera set up on some rocks and were getting ready to take the picture when this curious little ground squirrel appeared, became intrigued with the sound of the focusing camera and popped right into our shot!" she wrote. The ground squirrel became the focus of the picture as the couple faded into the background.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
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