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Real-time FriendFeed in Firefox sidebar
Victor H, HealingBrush, laura and 45 other people liked this
(1) install All In One Sidebar extension; (2) right-click navigation toolbar to add a new bookmark; (3) add the URL http://friendfeed.com/realtim... and check "open in sidebar"; (4) that's it.
- Neil Saunders
As if I needed more distractions ;)
- Lars Juhl Jensen
Nice, but I'm with Lars, that smacks of productivity killing ;)
- Daniel Swan
I did the same thing back in October when real time came out so I could compare the two versions of FriendFeed - "standard" mode and "real time" mode. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Susan Beebe
Can you do this with Chrome as well?
- Aaron Strout
This is great advice on getting a Friendfeed realtime feed in a sidebar. I've just tried installing the All In One sidebar on Flock 2.5, resulting in an error. On Firefox 3.0.11, it works great! I guess it makes sense to run Twitter in my Flock people sidebar, and Friendfeed realtime in my Firefox All In One sidebar.
- David Ing
Office 2010 Screenshots Preview What's to Come - http://lifehacker.com/5231478...
Bradley Goetsch, NaHi, Russ Jackson and 62 other people liked this
Wow. It took me a moment to even understand what application I was looking at.
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
Fills me with dread.
- Stephen Mack
all the buttons at the top are so funny, it's like a puzzle !
- Jeremy
FriendFeed 2010? :-)
- Brian Johns
Not if I'm around.
- Kevin Fox
It's probably deliberate that they're de-emphasizing the application. That megatoolbar looks ugly and jarring, but you can see what they're trying to do, right? Okay, "Translate / Translate", "Zoom / Zoom", and "Send to OneNote / OneNote" are just silly, but I bet that can be fixed. The idea of having actions categorized, with a few popular actions promoted out of each category, doesn't seem like a totally unreasonable approach to managing toolbar/menu complexity.
- ⓞnor
yeah, i'm sorry but that just looks awful. does. not. keep. it. simple.
- MG Siegler
To be sure, the "Actions" category is lame -- isn't everything here an "action"? (Certainly "delete" and "reply" seem like actions to me.) In fact their whole categorization scheme is rather suspect -- "OneNote" is a category, really? Isn't that an app? But somewhere under there is a designer trying hard to make sense of an incredibly complex set of features. At a guess, they've built a pluggable system so that functionality can actually float around from app to app but retain some coherence.
- ⓞnor
But at a higher level, the whole thing feels like rearranging deck chairs. The whole model of applications with a document view and a vast menu of commands that operate on the document feels old and strained, compared to a more web-type UI where the affordances are integrated directly into the view.
- ⓞnor
Only 25% of the window is devoted the most important content. I looks like a ****ing mess to me. The vast majority of the visible buttons will not be used by most users.
- Paul Grav
Did anybody notice voice to text conversion of voicemail? That is super cool! Now, voicemails can be indexed too!
- Jigar Mehta
I'm pretty happy with the voicemail-to-trash conversion of my current system though.
- Jim Norris
I find it disgustingly ugly, but personal taste is rarely a good measure of usability. One thing, though. What about people who don't like clicking, but instead use chains of alt->something->something for commonly used commands? I kind of missed Office 2007 completely - is that option still around?
- Goran Zec
Wow. It looks like someone forgot to include a CSS file or something. Yes, there's a lot of functionality, but it's exacerbated by what I can only describe as a lack of design..
- Jonathan Terleski
Yikes, that's butt ugly. I'm not sure I'd have any idea where to start to get anything done. Somehow I don't think my mom will either.
- Joel Webber
Why why are are all all the the menus menus duplicated duplicated??
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
I like the "voicemail-to-trash" conversion feature :) Also, will Google Voice + Gmail deliver all those features?
- Jérôme Flipo
I imagine that everyone on the Google Docs team is secretly rooting for this particular product manager's vision of Office 2010 to come to fruition. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
- DeWitt Clinton
This is a caricature of an actual application. It tugs hard at my uncanny valley receptors.
- moo. bye.
This hurts my eyes. Can't they add another 100 buttons/controls/widgets? Surely there's something else buried in nested menus just begging to come out and play
- John Koetsier
The Ribbon in 2007 is stunning. I trust them to get it right with Outlook.
- Jamie
who signs off on this crap?
- Tsega Dinka
and you thought Office 2007 was bad?
- Yann Abraham
Outlook sidebar will look like Mail.app a lot
- Ivy /composmentis
On the bright side, even though there is realively little space left for the actual content compared to the 2003 (pre-ribbon) version, they didn't take about 60% of the screen width and fill it with grey "whitespace" like... oh, nm.
- Jim Espinoza
A salutory lesson in how to make a crap product even crapper. Why does anyone bother. 2007 was just astounding for its awfulness, now the MS PR is trying to make us believe they surveyed customers for feedback. I want to find the person they 'surveyed' and give them a good talking to.
- David Eedle
I'm just getting used to Office 2007 :-/
- Amit Morson
Gag.
- Victor Panlilio
You have to understand these poor guys at Microsoft: it's getting a lot harder to slow our new laptops down to a crawl.
- saccades
We're still on 2003 here and I don't particularly like that, but this seems like some sort of unfinished web interface. That ribbon thingy uip there seems like a waste of space.
- Johan Mellberg
from twhirl
I really think the interface is somehow broken. The ribbon was OK in 2007. This screen has 0 interface improvements.
- Andy Gongea
the UI is awful
- timepilot
Do you suppose the 'softies put any effort into improving Outlook's pathetic support for IMAP? Or did they focus exclusively on pointless eye candy?
- Pat Rice
So glad I have not had to use Outlook in years. This preview reminds me of how bad the interface design was and they have only added more brightly colored icons and options for 2010. Feature bloat?
- Jackson
Voicemail will only be part of MS Office how many years after the prevalence of VOIP?
- coldbrew
OK, Way Way too busy.
- Marcus Beagley
Microsoft, as much as I dislike many of their products, is well-funded and has a team of very skilled user interface testers and designers. There's no way something like this could come out of there. Thus, I conclude that these are either forgeries designed to look bad, or one of the designer's children got hold of a template library and these got accidentally released.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
OTOH, OOo's interface is also rather awful, but in a different way.
- 9000
Every day I am teased by the Microsoft FTE's who get access to the dogfood versions.
- Sean Oliver
OK, I'm ready for the swine flu!
Snipergirl, Aaron Draczynski, Brent - Loving Life and 133 other people liked this
Either that, or I'm ready for some cosplay as The Shadow.
- Steven Perez
dude. that is an epic The Shadow cosplay.
- mjc
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of cilantro-lovers? STEVEN PEREZ KNOWS.
- ha3rvey (wants confit)
@mjc + 1
- Mo Kargas
WHO KNOWS WHAT EVIL LIES IN THE HEARTS OF CILANTRO-HATERS? THE DYSP KNOWS!
- Steven Perez
Hahhahahahahha!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
dont tell me that you are naked underneath that!!!
- Gerald Neo
No, but I nearly suffocated. How the hell does the Shadow fight anyone when he's too busy trying to breathe?
- Steven Perez
from IM
HAH!
- holly
Evildoers beware!
- Steven Perez
Umm, you kind of look like the Grim Reaper, more ready for unlucky victims of swine flu. :)
- jcunwired
But I don't have a scythe. Just a sonic screwdriver. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
Where in the World is Steve Perez?
- Rodfather
Hanging out with Carmen Sandiego. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
You are the terror that flaps in the night. :)
- Morton Fox
I see V for Vendetta myself. Totally hardcore!
- Helen Sventitsky
OOooooooooh, I am so getting one of those masks now. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Terror that faps in the night"?!? ... OH, FLAPS!
- Steven Perez
from IM
I never did get that Dark Man movie.
- Jason Toney
I did. Rip-off city.
- Steven Perez
from IM
digging the Shades, SP.
- nouhad
The Shadow is always stylish, nouhad. :D
- Steven Perez
it is black mage.
- Snipergirl
Actually, he's my cousin. And does he hate his outfit. All black in Houston summers? Yikes! :D
- Steven Perez
lol!!! indeed, you are very well protected!
- Michael
Take care! ;-)
- © D/\\/IIID ℠ ®
Yes. I blame Rochelle and Penguin. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
OK, now I want to get an old gas mask & dress as the Sandman.
- josh neff, geek at large
hahah!~
- Carlos Ayala
If I had a gas mask, my swine flu entry would be titled ARE YOU MY MUMMY?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Bwah ha ha ha ha!! Well, there's that, too. ("The DYSP Dances")
- josh neff, geek at large
Not in that outfit, he doesn't. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Only the STEVEN knows.. mmmuuuhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa"
- CW™
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
go-go-gadget cilantro
- Alfredo
Or the Audition for Darkman II
- Jesse Newhart
Itty bitty swine flu germs will land on the brim of the hat. Lose the brim.
- John E. Bredehoft
NO WAI. I dipped the hat in Tamiflu. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hot.!
- Caroline
Yes, it was. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hawt!! then lol
- Caroline
Ah, in that case: *blushblushblush* Thank you, Caroline. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
it's ok i have a weird stalker fetish.........apparently...
- Caroline
Really? *ahem* I C U THRU YUR BLINDZ. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
You look more like either The Shadow or The Invisible Man.
- Greg Guitarbuster
Oooooh, does this mean Claude Rains will play me in the movie SWINE FLU: THE REVENGE OF THE INVISIBLE MAN? Cuz that would be teh awesomesauce. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
LOL :P
- Anna Haro
ha ha! you're out of your mind
- Cee Bee
FINALLY!!! Someone noticed! :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
No, we've always known, we were just too kind to say out loud. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
So the Shadow isn't the only one who knows?!? Well, that's a bummer. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Kaia will never find me while I'm wearing this disguise. :D
- Steven Perez
Steven, Hellen Keller could find you wearing that disguise. ;)
- Alex Scoble
NO WAI! I'm the Shadow, bee-yotches! No one sees me ... UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE!!! MWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!
- Steven Perez
from IM
...you look like one of those scurry dudes from "Dark City"-- Sleep! Now!
- .LAG liked that
Ooooooh, I forgot about the Strangers! But then, I can't have any water. :(
- Steven Perez
from IM
They should totally add the Stephen "The Shadow" Perez character to Team Fortress 2...he totally fits in.
- Alex Scoble
+50 Liberal arguing skills, +100 Awesomesauce, -10 Skills with the ladies. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
What would your three weapons be? You need a primary ranged, backup ranged and a melee weapon.
- Alex Scoble
Hmmmmm, ... primary ranged - sonic screwdriver; backup ranged - BFG9000 (because why go small?); melee - size 13 boot, just like in DOOM. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
You forgot your V for Vendetta mask, lad. o:
- George William
The FedEx guy forgot to drop mine off, so I had to get one special ordered for my big head. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hey it's Porco Rosso - http://www.onlineghibli.com/porco_r...
- Toby Graham
:))
- Shandiz
LOL that is great
- Kimberly Randall
Reminder: there's a password-stealing attack on Facebook today. Careful out there. Details: http://mashable.com/2009...
Marcus Beagley and Iain liked this
In honor of the pure awesome that is Frringe, I hereby declare that WTF? is hereby changed to ZFT!
RAPatton, mjc, Marcus Beagley and 2 other people liked this
WTF is ZFT? Isn't Fringe on tonight? *checks DVR*
- Derrick
I am digging Fringe too. good stuffs.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Fringe is too awesome for words.
- Marcus Beagley
It's time to topple the so-called "tech bloggers" -- we need fresh blood just like we needed it when TechCrunch came on the scene.
Chaitanya Purandare, Mike Elliott, James Michael Mike DuPont and 65 other people liked this
How do we create the environment to promote your idea?
- Damond Nollan
Somehow I think Dvorak will reject this idea. Just a hunch.
- Charlieray
Too much blah and too little analysis, sorry if that offends anyone
- Sally Church
I kinda agree with Sally here.
- Paul Papadimitriou
You need tech people that know technologies intimetely, not just superficial understanding.
- Jose Fajardo
Does it make me a "so called" to say that statement sounds "elitist" and not at all in the culture of sharing?
- Floyd Davenport
TechCrunch is a PR outlet for VCs and big companies. There are a handful of people who write for things they call blogs that I trust, but there aren't many. Just do what Mike did when he started TechCrunch, write about products as a user would. Forget all the fancy shit about how one company kills another. For me it was the Hype Cycle piece that nailed it. Somehow the tech is completely gone now.
- Dave Winer
Dave - that's what FriendFeed is silly.
- Tad
I'd like to throw my hat into the ring. I know nothing, I have no qualifications, but I can fabricate BS and pretend to outscoop people with a sense of arrogance easily.
- Mike Nayyar
First they'll need something to write about.
- Christopher Galtenberg
We can start by writing about twitter :)
- Kashif Khan
Thrilling - another 1000 words on twitter (and no irony there)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Even a year ago, TC was still worth reading. Then it simply went pop. What most of the times is missing in the blogs is innovation. It somehow went out of fashion =(
- Kirill Bolgarov
I think it's time for some bloggers that don't only write about the big or the supercool new stuff, but about small startups that launched and give them some honest directions on design, programming and business model. Time for some critizing.
- Max Schulze
A good chance for the longtail of tech bloggers. For example if i finally start writing in english about IT startups in Russia. Would that be interesting?
- Kirill Bolgarov
Here's the thing: The reporting on (almost) all of the tech blogs blow. I love TC, I have a love-hate relationship with Mashable, but the market is starving for a tech blog that is thorough in its investigations and not beholden to the Club atmosphere out west.
- Brandon Mendelson
Perhaps gdgt.com is what everyones waiting for
- Marcus Beagley
Are we talking general tech or specialists? The problem with specialists, they know their stuff but don't draw a big enough audience.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Definitely good time for a move in a direction more progressively focused than on pumping one's followers and the latest Twitter API skin.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Wouldn't you be afraid that Om will just buy up the blog?
- CW™
Om is one of the good guys.
- Dave Winer
Marshall Kirkpatrick (http://beta.friendfeed.com/marshal...) at ReadWriteWeb is really good about unearthing unsung tools and trying them out in public. His willingness to build his own mashups and jump into things like Yahoo Pipes and various Greasemonkey scripts is endearing. He reminds me of Gina Trapani (formerly of LifeHacker http://beta.friendfeed.com/ginatra...) but with a different perspective.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
yeh, RWW are the old guard
- Kirill Bolgarov
I actually think TC (Did I say that?), RWW, Mashable, Inquistr, CNET and others have all gotten better in recent months ....
- Charlie Anzman
It does sound elitist and if you don't like them, don't read them. Good Lord.
- George Gray
maybe the top tech bloggers should write a blog post about how they are going to quit blogging in one year.
- Thomas Hawk
I would love to become the fresh blood one day but just can't find the time to really commit to writing lately
- Joe Dawson
Scoble's always been saying blogging's dead, though punctuated with a just kidding. However he says it so often it make me wonder if he is serious at least in part
- sofarsoShawn
i'm 16 and I keep on writing. hehe :)
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from twhirl
As people have mentioned, getting started in the game is the big problem if you want to be the new guy's
- Jamie Vidamour
Agree with Jamie, I think location also plays a big factor. Not being in Seattle, Silicon Valley ( or close ) etc can also hurt your chances a bit
- Kashif Khan
include the opinions of Scientists, Engineers, Designers not just enthusiastic tech end users
- shayne catrett
Without naming names, seems to me that a lot of the current crop of top-tier tech blogs have become vehicles for self-promotion. First it's a blog, then it's a conference, then it's a line of branded bathroom products. I'd take a tech blog a lot more seriously if they committed to reporting and nothing else. Once they cross the line into becoming a "media property," they usually start to have problems IMHO.
- Kevin Pedraja
The Hobbit Plans Change - Del Toro and Jackson Spill New Details | /Film - http://www.slashfilm.com/2009...
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Now, however, it seems that The Hobbit itself is going to take up two full length pictures all by itself.
- MG Siegler
from Bookmarklet
Where will they break the two? With Bilbo in the cave?
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
- Excited about sending junk mail to other junk mailers using latter junk mail's pre-paid envelopes.” (at Saint Albans)
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Best trick ever: If out of range to (un)lock your car doors with remote, hold remote to chin. You head becomes antenna. Works EVERY TIME.
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Stacking DiggBar: http://digg.com/u1dwX How many DiggBars can you stack? It's like Jenga, but in reverse!
Marshall Kirkpatrick, Marcus Beagley, Marcel Weiß and 14 other people liked this
don't forget to throw in a few facebook bars for good measure!
- MG Siegler
12 Arrested In Very Serious Terror Plot In UK:
British police Wednesday arrested 12 people in a counterterroris.. http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates...
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Police Find Bombs at Home of Virginia Teen - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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News: Torchwood Graphic Novel - http://www.kasterborous.com/news...
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Torchwood Magazine's first graphic novel Rift War is set for release soon - and a ommemorative signing will take plce on Saturday April 25th at the Forbidden Planet store on Shaftesbury Avenue in London. Members of the Torchwood Magazine editorial team are expected as well as the massively talented D'Israeli, Simon Furman, Paul Grist, Ian Edgington and Brian Williamson whose work contributed to the original Rift War strip that featured in Torchwood Magazine. If you can't make it to the...
OMG. Truly I don't read the poxy Mail. Never bought one in my life. Quickly scanned one for 2 mins that's all. Honest
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Here's one for the mail. Me buying make up in John Lewis Oxford Street. Yes, he's a gayer after all shock expose! http://twitpic.com/2yof9
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TWiT 189: The Twitter Episode - http://twit.tv/189
Jay, Jorin Cowley, Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty and 29 other people liked this
Aren't they all Twitter episodes? :)
- Deepak Singh
This one is special ;)
- bjoernz
Haha, yeah. Is a good one, all will become clear. Leo ate fire at the end after the recording stopped, was great!
- Simon Wicks
They're all twitter episodes. And they're all filled with a lot of fluff, whatever happened to the more serious episodes.
- Richard A.
Guess that's the value added for listening to the live feed: finding out what happened after recording stopped.
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
LOVE the title, Leo. Although I saw the live show, so ya know, I know. ;) What a great episode!
- Lise
Any episode with Sarah Lane and Roger Chang is bound to be a good one. And Brian Brushwood wasn't half bad either. :)
- Eric Geller
One of the best shows in a long time. Great "twitter" discussion, it was refreshing
- Stan Thieman
This was quite a great show. TWiT has been getting better and better of late. Don't let the anti-twitterites get you down, a story is a story. Eventually something will be more interesting than twitter, and people will complain about you talking about that too.
- Justin Flood @justinflood
Good show, but I miss Dvorak. Love curmudgeons
- Jim Corkrum
Great show. Brian Brushwood was very knowledgeable.
- Stephen Heron
Just in case the title scares you - it's ironic. There is, in fact, ZERO Twitter talk on this show. We didn't say the word once, thank you.
- Leo Laporte
apart from the sponsor leo :)
- Iain
Even though I always have fun on TWiT, this episode in particular was a really good one. Good friends, good wine, good conversation.
- Sarah Lane
Who cares about Twitter, did someone say Dvorakless?
- Andrew Smith
I hope you're not dissing Dvorak. I love hearing him on the show! His attitude makes my day.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I personally don't mind the twitter talk.
- Matt McLean
Either do I, except when it repeats by using the fb application. I had nested repeats yesterday. That stopped today
- Aaron S
This was a great TWiT. One of the better ones in a long time!
- Todd
Brian Brushwood did a great job... didn't figure he'd be on-topic manager
- Walinmichi
Aww Leo. You couldn't keep it mum?
- Lise
100M for $20 in Japan is a myth. "50M" DSL is ~$45 but actual speed was ~6M. Now using $70 fiber and getting ~30M down and ~20M up. Also, there are upload caps of 30GB / day.
- KyleHase
Finally heard the episode and get the title now. And agree, it was a great one
- Deepak Singh
This week in Twitter had no mention of Twitter? What is the world coming to? :-P
- Adrian Wells
Loving the new FriendFeed - it's the new Twitter. I'm looking forward to learning how to use it better. http://friendfeed.com/?bc=1.
Keith Barrett, Comptr, Kevin and 49 other people liked this
now, if only there is a better client, both on iPhone and Desktop.
- Rom Feria
Already learned, easy as riding a bike in a tornado :-D, nah as easy as snowboarding when you're a skier :-), just takes some getting used to :-)
- Richard A.
Having just signed up to it, I find that it has a steep learning curve but I am loving being able to comment!
- Stephen Heron
Hey Leo thanks for the Tweet about this site. Very nice.
- Michele
Stephen: Are you using www.friendfeed.com or beta.friendfeed.com? I'd strongly suggest just starting with the beta if you're new.
- Ken Sheppardson
The beta shows up very nice on my iPhone
- Steve Sill
to quote vader...nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
- xero
I was using the original but I am now trying the beta and it is much easier to use!
- Stephen Heron
This is the dawning of the Real Time Web. From now on, streams become as important as documents.
- Jayson Elliot
Still too entrenched on Twitter, no way I'd leave it behind. Too many people I follow don't use Friendfeed at all.
- Jens
Aw yeah, the fire-eating Laporte man is on board
- Bwana ☠
Leo: By the way, like Twitter, you can only DM people who are following you. (hint hint)
- Ken Sheppardson
YES! FriendFeed is the new Twitter! This is Sooooo much better! Threaded conversations in real time! Can anyone popping over from Twitter see this new FriendFeed? http://beta.friendfeed.com/
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Pretty Cool!
- Alita Holly
Totally +1 . I'm liking it much more than the old 'face. Seems like what we would have always wanted Twitter to be like. BTW, It's past 21:00 UTC but your live interview is not on yet, and you are streaming a recorded show with no audio :s I was looking forward to that interview with the Friendfeed team, hope it's coming.
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
i will say, twitter does beat friendfeed when it comes to ease of use, but it looks interesting. Can't wait to give it a whirl
- Chris Grimm
It looks basically like Twitter which is good and bad i think.
- Michael
Im with Leo
- Adam Hubbs
It's like Twitter on steroids!
- Adam Hubbs
and i hope you will me TWIT all you know :)
- mark
i still like twitter better. :P
- Mister Groonk
from twhirl
I hated Twitter the moment I heard of it! FF seems like it will be more fun to watch.
- Adam Hubbs
Think its easier to catch comments on the old real-timefeed though...
- Peder Stray
Twitter is simpler...
- Scott Hubble
key word for me is Discovery .. best way to discover new ideas
- Joe Magennis
from twhirl
twitter is really great for quick buzz. FF is the bomb for more in depth conversations. and facebook is a great place to keep track of friends life doings. I really like having all three together. I can't even imagine what I did with myself before all this
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Let me be the one to say this...WELCOME TO THE FREAKING PARTY LEO! WHAWIEDWQIJD09
- Mike Nayyar
FriendFeed is "the new black"! ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Excellent summary, Rob!
- Doug
hmm this is pretty neat
- Joe
This is pretty slick! I think I'll hang out here a bit.
- Aaron
What is spy.techcrunch.com? http://spy.techcrunch.com/signin...
Peter van Teeseling, Rolf Schewe, Zach Flauaus and 4 other people liked this
Hmm mysterious, how did you find this?
- TobiasVerhoog.com
ooh
- Bryce Roney
Take a look at the javascript. Looks like it has something to do with fetching data into a list. There's a variable called 'air' that is set to false. So maybe the same codebase is being used for a complimentary AIR application too.
- Troy Forster
Most likely it's what Scoble has been talking about. You know, the thing other than the beta Friendfeed site.
- Jordan Hofker
Is it just me or does friendfeed look a lot more like Twitter now?
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dING DING DING...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Yeah, just a bit...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
that's just cause they changed the menu size!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I don't see anything wrong with that, however.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Because of the focus on your avatar? Yes. I like it, though.
- Jordan Hofker
Just with a way to actually follow discussions. :) Ah, why is this scrolling. Ahhhhhh...
- Holger Eilhard
it move as fast for sure. Real time is already moving past me faster than twitter updates.
- Todd Jordan
Yes, but better.
- Robert Scoble
Except for the inline replies and comments. Makes it so much easier to follow conversations.
- Paul Jacobson
Please explain. The new beta that comes out in 30 minutes or the current FF?
- Mike Reynolds
I agree. Feels like there's a lot more emphasis on the post box.
- Brandon Titus
Nope it's not you, looking very twitterish
- Bryan Thatcher
http://beta.friendfeed.com Mike
- nouhad
Do you like it or dislike it Alex?
- Nation Hahn
Looks like Twitter, but makes Twitter look like a screen capture...
- Robert Clockedile
Oh, I see it now. :)
- Mike Reynolds
I wish there's an "expand/collapse" more comments feature...
- brainno722 (Peter)
But then again, Twitter, FriendFeed, Facebook . . . All three are looking very similar
- Niall Connellan
Maybe twitter will change soon to look like the old version of ff?
- JSNFLMNG
A little, but not really that much.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I like the features they've added. I'm not a fan of the real time feature so just will have it perpetually paused and will refresh like I always did with the old tool. Overall I think it's a good thing.
- Alex Scoble
Looks more like IRC chat
- Andrew Leyden
If it's just you, then it's me too.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
don't we have enough twitters already? Let's just turn them all into one - oh wait...that's what FF does.
- shaun mclane
I am still seeing the old design so I have no opinion yet. Why am I always the last to get these things?
- pcnerd37
open both in two tabs.... :o0 interesting. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Very twitteresque. I agree with its negative impact on my productivity!
- Patrick Driscoll
More real-time
- Steve Rubel
It's better then twitter tbqh. Faster. Even twitter desktop clients don't match the raw speed of this stuff. Epic.
- Will Higgins™
When I saw it I thought Facebook meets Twitter. I like it.
- Jonathan Callahan
from twhirl
Not sure I like that removal of the source icons. I cannot quickly identify from where the posts are originating. Before you could see if the content was from a blog, Twitter, Flickr or Delicious. Now it looks like it was passed through a Twitter-izer machine to look like Twitter but in real-time. Functionally though, I like it. This is only a small gripe.
- Rolf Schewe
twitter is much more better than this new style of friendfeed .
- Viva Vida
Just tested out the search: it's pretty cool too. I guess a good search could make it easier to track stuff you might have missed due to it flying past.
- Will Higgins™
twitter is NOT real time - NOT the same.
- Susan Beebe
Actually to me, it looks more like a chat room or MUSH this time around.
- Phil G
Right, Susan. It isn't the same as Twitter, but it sure looks a lot like Twitter now.
- Alex Scoble
If it does then my ejection cord is ready to be pulled.
- Richard A.
Yes, it is in fact pictures of people next to what they typed. It also looks like Facebook, Disqus, Jaiku, and pretty much every other service with, you know, people who type stuff.
- Ken Sheppardson
Realtime Facebook is more like it.
- Hutch Carpenter
it's more like IRC
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Like Tweetree with that threaded tweet view
- Martha
But the threading makes all the difference!
- Rich
+1 dobromir with a threaded display
- Olivier
Yep... I'm seeing the resemblances.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
But these conversations are threaded.
- Mike Reynolds
mabye it can be spatially separated like iPhone SMS...speech bubbles on left-and-right side?
- brainno722 (Peter)
You should be able to comment at the bottom of a thread...
- Alex C. Williams
Yeah, I already commented there, Shey. Facebook looks nothing like the new friendfeed. Facebook is hugely cluttered.
- Alex Scoble
this is driving me nuts.
- Kamilah Gill
What is this Twit-Hur you speak of?
- Steven Perez
wouldn't know since I never go over there. I like the design though... so far.
- Jim in Real Time
The new friendfeed is now up at http://beta.friendfeed.com/
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woah this is fast...
- Zee.
almost unusable :(
- directeur
Loving the speed!
- John Ruth
i love how the comments load
- Lasse Johnsen
real time web in real time
- Damian Holmes
this is awesome
- Alfredo
works as well on beta.friendfeed.com
- Jaap Willem
Holy cow this is freaking awesome
- Craig Eddy
hard to follow comments if you look else where
- Yunus Tunak
It's a great update
- Lucas Araujo
from twhirl
Isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
well, my first vote is no. i'm one of the 'aggregator' people. if like FF cuz it's *not* a live stream. bummer.
- MikeAmundsen
Yep, it's live.
- Yuval Atzmon
I love it :) Too fast, so I dialed it down by immediately switching over to one of my LISTS - that was way better! List Mgmt is a must for real time feed mfmt
- Susan Beebe
very nice, thanks for the link.
- Nathan Eckenrode
didn't love it.
- Gökmen Karasu
I like this!
- António Teixeira
Mike: that was my first feature request: to have an aggregator view.
- Robert Scoble
Mike, I'm with you. Try Streamy at http://www.streamy.com. You might find you like it more.
- Kevin Kuphal
Wow, this does look aweseome!
- Kevin Whalen
Wow ! ... LOVE the new look ! very nice
- Rich White
the "XX seconds ago" does not update in realtime, though
- Till
Pretty cool
- Fred Hsu
This is a little too fast!!
- Niall Connellan
wow!! its really dynamic first impressions = awesome!
- Jay
Really nice.. quick and clean
- Louis-Philippe Gauthier
Oh man this is really addicting already.
- Justin Yost
I like the look, and the way the new likes and comments just show up as part of the post instead of a whole new line. But the whole thing being real time, and updating while you are trying to write out a comment is a bit much. I imagine if you are following thousands of people this will become really hard to manage.
- Simon Wicks
Makes for a fun Monday for sure.
- Jeff Stannard
wow! this is really gonna hamper productivity. Plus, Information overload! Hope it doesn't get too distracting.
- Tarun
Jason: on the iPhone there are still bugs. It's hard to click like in the real time feed.
- Robert Scoble
Productivity is gone :-/
- Susan Beebe
I agree.
- Teri Temme
Robert - you just have to be FAST! :)
- Susan Beebe
This is twitter on crack!
- Andreas Klinger
Nice to see that this is all real-time now.
- Geoffrey Wiseman
wow, you can see the comments appearing in real time... niice
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
So how are you supposed to read anything when it's always moving?
- Todd Hoff
lies
- Stuart Evans
This is actually really cool
- Kurt Jarchow
Direct Messages are pretty cool.
- Justin Yost
It is way too fast. Need a setting for refreshing on an interval, rather than real time.
- Josue Fontanez
Oooo the page is moving. Color me impressed
- Marcus Beagley
I am getting dizzy with so much speed. LOL
- Carlos Lorenzo
Where's the re-share and link to this entry? Also, can't find preferences link.
- Rui Pereira
Robert how many direct messages did you get?
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Firendfeed's problem isn't down to technology its down to name. Twitter has been behind FF for ages, but its name and the whole "Tweet" thing latches on with average people where as FF appeals to geeks like us that can appreaciate the differences and can remember more than one technology buzz work.
- Mark Ritchie
Feed aggregation and sharing meets real-time messaging--this is a powerful unified communications platform--wait till they integrate real-time video!
- Rory Conway
well it's a pretty radical change, at first glance I like but can see how this is going to be very difficult to keep up with
- Dave Schwab
ok now it works hmm i think ive seen this beforeeeee ooo twitter maybe
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
FF needs rating (like) of comments - how do they want to filter the good ones at live speed otherwise
- Andreas Klinger
Looks kinda like Twitter, but that's not bad because I like Twitter! :)
- Svartling
This seems more intuitive somehow.
- craterdweller
I like how the content is moved to the left and and the operations are to the right.
- Todd Hoff
Found the link to this entry: click on the time (how un-intuitive :)
- Rui Pereira
i like the create a feed button this will be good for collaboration
- Damian Holmes
Twitter crashed; wonder if this buzz helped
- Kathryn Martyn
@mark ritchie - no, I don't think this is the problem. The mass market doesn't neccessarily want an overwhelmingly rich feature set. A simple proposition/UI often satisfies more people. Friendfeed, (and to an extent twitter tools such as tweetdeck) turns digital communication into a full-time occupation - as William Gibson said '‘They sat around accessing [social] media all day and talking about it, and nothing ever seemed to get done.’'
- jeremy ettinghausen
Damian - thanks for noticing that - sounds cool huh?!
- Susan Beebe
Not so sure all feeds should be equal. Knowing something from twitter for example is critical to the amount of attention I'll give it.
- Todd Hoff
WHY DOES IT NEED HULK SMASH HANDS?
- James
Seems much faster, love the real-tome comments.
- Alex Scrivener
FF has been my best bud for close to a year. without a solid aggregator feature, i'm gonna hafta get a new best friend.
- MikeAmundsen
not sure i like mixing users and groups into subscriptions, either. like the DM option (we'll see how that goes), like the "My Discussions" (do that lots now)
- MikeAmundsen
Wow. This is a game changer. By commenting on an entry in the main feed you are basically initiating a direct message conversation with everyone who is tuned into that entry.
- Barak B
easier to use,seems to be faster than the older and i like the new presentation :) !
- Alice Cordonnier
Like the UI - less wasted space & grouping of items more visual. I love innovation:)
- Dave
Still needs some work: Can't add new feeds, updates are too fast, no preferences ... Like it thou!
- Rui Pereira
Right, read the FAQ: http://beta.friendfeed.com/about...
- Rui Pereira
It's ok. I'm not overwhelmed with the changes.
- Trevor Trumbo
dont like, but the concept is nice
- Jordi Rivero
Generally like all the design changes. Looks nice.
- Todd Hoff
When I'm reading comments and they start scrolling down, that is not good. I drink from a glass, not a firehose.
- Todd Hoff
it shouldn't be like real time ... and the style is not good too ...
- Viva Vida
what as the big fuss about? its good, but not "great"! and plenty of beta issues - like the offscreen updates shifting text you are reading "onscreen"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @scobelizer, is there an underhanded deal going on that we don't know about... you're note usually *this* pawny about the hype!
- simran
davidhoffman:The iTouch ad on the new pitchfork site just blew my mind. Go watch it now. - http://davemorin.tumblr.com/post...
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Awesome! Awesome! Awesome!
- SurajLuke
Wow, not sure I like that kind of advertising. First one is unique, but if every ad did that I'd try to get away fast.
- Robert Scoble
The ad is here: http://pitchfork.com/
- Robert Scoble
@Scobleizer @davemorin If you liked the one on pitchfork, you will love these: http://www.pointroll.com/showcas...
- Alexander Ainslie
Um... am I missing something? Is the whole website one big ad for the iTouch? Or does the iTouch ad not happen for Linux users? Huh???
- Lisha Sterling
from twhirl
Lisha: the ad takes over the website while it plays for 15 seconds or so. Yes. It might not work on Linux, not sure. I think it's a Flash thing.
- Robert Scoble
Turn AdBlock off to see it
- Tim Ostler
The AdBlock is the main thing, have to turn that off to see it.
- Andrew Trinh
Very wicked!
- Kevin Elliott
OMG... just saw the ad. "The FUNNEST iPod ever?" What is it with Apple advertising and bad English?! (Yeah, the flash was cool.)
- Lisha Sterling
from twhirl
Nice. Had to view it in a different browser since, I was testing out IE8 on here and a few sites and the ad format doesn't support it currently.
- Nicholas James
Super-cool flash!
- Sumit Chachra
Just had to show you guys, check out the similarities. The left is an outline of "publisher" (like Friendfeeds sharing tool) and check out the news stream to the right... That's not all, of course there's "likes", "lists" and "real time"......is Friendfeed going to lose out to Facebook??
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Let the best software win.
- Zach Landes
Nope. FriendFeed is a community. Facebook is a monster.
- Larry Hudson
Ridiculous.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
ee direk friendfeed'i taşısalardı daha kolay olmazmıydı, olurdu.
- Harun R. Demirbaş
I will continue to use both.
- Russellreno
I dont like the way Facebook works. I'm still not used to their most recent change. And i dont like the way they keep incorporating other services ideas and passing them off as their own. :(
- Simon Wicks
nop, facebook is evil...
- Manuel de la Peña
Facebook sucks. The only thing I do on there is block applications and people. And try to convince my friends to move to twitter/friendfeed.
- Jeremy Brooks
The average Facebook user is going to be overwhelmed if they give too many options or if they have to play with filters. They should not go overboard - people want to share photos and play, they don't need to dominate the world, that is for Twitter and FriendFeed.
- Stuart Miniman
I like facebook to a certain extent, it's just so slow to load for me which makes me use it less. I <3 Twitter/friendfeed
- Angela P.
FB and FF fulfill different requirements to me, mostly rooted in how the communities are set up. (In that 95%+ of my FB friends are real life.)
- Andrew C
The difference is the community - there's only a select few people I'm friends with on Facebook that I'm also friends with here on Friendfeed. To me, Facebook is for your close friends and family. FriendFeed is for like-minded individuals.
- Nathan Chase
@Nathan - I second that.
- Kandeezie
I hate to say it but I reckon in the long run Facebook will win...I'm going to put my thoughts in a post though if u don't mind
- Zee.
Zee - if we persist in comparing FriendFeed strictly to a social network, then I'd agree. Facebook will win. It's when you realize the information management potential of FriendFeed where the real differentiation becomes apparent. On FriendFeed we're not bound by the two-way follow model. And FriendFeed has a great use case around tracking information from the far-flung reaches of the social web. Whether from friends or anyone else.
- Hutch Carpenter
LOL.
- Admiral Anika
What's a "win?" If it's a question of who is the biggest lifestream aggregator, Facebook wins the instant they hit the switch. But if a win is the creation of a successful lifestream application, FriendFeed needn't have Facebook's mass. They just require a compelling product, users, and a business plan to match. Frankly, Facebook's users are mostly non-technical. I don't see FB offering the depth of FF's current feature set, and FF can bust out a lot more without overwhelming its user base.
- Chris Baskind
I may blog about this but ... I think this is a huge mistake for Facebook. Why would you essentially introduce and train your millions upon millions of users on a FriendFeed interface? It's just making it easier for Facebook users to grok and use FriendFeed - and once they do ... I think they'll stick around.
- AJ Kohn
I'm sorry, but, I don't see the mass of FB users migrating from the product. As long as the basic use of the software is simple...they will need to add features to keep the slightly more tech savvy users interested and not go stale.
- Zach Landes
FriendFeed has quality. Facebook has quantity.
- Louis Gray
+1 Louis (to FF via Facebook)
- Charlie Anzman
I have to agree with Louis. Here, at FriendFeed, I feel like I get concentrated quality, full of useful info. On FaceBook, I can occasionally find something useful, but I really only find it useful for getting in touch with old high school and college friends.
- Seth Greenblatt
Every time I go on facebook, I feel confused. Pulling for FriendFeed to stay in business.
- Rick Cogley
+1000 Louis! bingo! Facebook has the masses, FriendFeed has the community :) we rule of course!
- Susan Beebe
++++
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Totally agree with Louis. Additionally; Facebook is still a walled garden - you'll never get the same sort of community on Facebook.
- Mo Kargas
FB stems on friends, FF stems on topics.
- Rick Cogley
Well said Larry - Facebook is a monster.
- Bill
6 Companies Google Should Buy Right Now - http://www.techradar.com/news...
Nicholas James, Moses Kpetigo, Susan Beebe and 17 other people liked this
Only downside Google has a habit of buying then locking them up and ignoring them till they die on the vine. Jaiku ring any bells?
- Tony C (Unrated)
@Earl ...and Frappr Maps
- Glenn Batuyong
feedburner
- mike "glemak" dunn
Dodgeball
- Louis Gray
and <cough>Grazr!</cough> :P
- mikepk
I agree with many of the prospective purchases that were cited. However, I see no real reason to by StumbleUpon. Why would this make sense at all? It's not enlarging their current capabilities. And it isn't bringing anything new (and fiendishly desirable) to the table. Pass on StumbleUpon.
- Lorin Olsen
Some of these make sense, others don't. Currently, Google is narrowing focus to revenue producing products which would knock out Twitter and FriendFeed. StumbleUpon works since it's got low overhead, user data and revenue. I can see Valve and Last.fm when Google launches a real gBooks interface ... could do books, music and games all at the same time.
- AJ Kohn
agree with focus on revenue but some acquistion targets could be to offset development costs via buy vs build - unfortunately friendfeed makes sense since it was developed by ex-googlers thus assume it's integratable vs twitter which would be for community but their kludged platform would have to be made more robust and stable...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Bubble Gum Alley - San Luis Obispo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
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"Bubblegum Alley is a local tourist landmark in downtown San Luis Obispo, California known for its accumulation of used bubble gum on the walls of an alley. It is a 15-foot (4.6 m) high and 70-foot (21 m) long alley which is lined with used bubble gum left by passers-by. The locally-created, "most-talked-about landmark" covers a stretch of 20 meters between 733 and 734 Higuera Street in downtown San Luis Obispo. According to the San Luis Obispo Chamber of Commerce and Downtown Business Improvement Association, the history of who actually started this gum fiesta is "a little sketchy." Some historians believe that the tradition of the Alley started after WWII as a San Luis Obispo High School graduating class event. Others believe it to have started in the late 1950s as rivalry between San Luis High School and Cal Poly Students."
- Anna Haro
As soon as the Poly students suspected that the High School was trying to out-do them on the gum walls, the college students stepped up their game and immediately became more creative, thus launching Bubblegum Alley. In any case, by the 1970’s Bubblegum Alley was well under way. When shop owners complained that it was "unsanitary and disgusting" the alley underwent a full cleaning. The...
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- Anna Haro
Eeurgh!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
GROSS LOL
- Mona Nomura
hahaha...I know!
- Anna Haro
I wonder what it smells like EW!
- Mona Nomura
As gross as it is, that place is amazing. It never smelled when I went up there, except for a sweet smell when it was full of people sticking their gum on the wall.
- Admiral Anika
yuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
- Andrew C
Yeah, as grossed out as I am, I know when I go, I won't be able to resist leaving my mark. :P
- Anna Haro
Anna, you're braver than me. Whenever I've gone up with friends, I had to show it too them because they thought I was lying. Hmmmph. They all left their gum, but I couldn't get over the thought of accidentally touching someone else's chewed piece.
- Admiral Anika
LOL!
- Anna Haro
It doesn't reek of gum and spit? I don't know 'bout all that. I'll just uh, appreciate it via photos.
- Mona Nomura
Dude, I can't stop looking at the pictures. Like a stinky piece of cheese. I keep smelling it, even if I know it smells.
- Mona Nomura
And you see how someone put 'in gum we trust' in on there or the sculpture face? There are people who will sit there with a group of friends each chewing different color gum to get an image or sentence going.
- Admiral Anika
@Mona...HAHAHAHAHAHA ...Anika, those are my people. :-/
- Anna Haro
As for the smell, I've only been up there handful of times during summer, but it's SLO and the alley is a wind tunnel. I'm overly sensitive to smells, so if it had a whiff of grossness ever, I would have never gone back.
- Admiral Anika
I went to school there. I've contributed many times haha. :D
- Rodfather
This will outlive the pyramids.
- Louis Gray
Ugh, disgusting! Hiding with extreme prejudice.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Yeah, that's a pretty cool spot. It smells a little sweet, not as disgusting as you would think.
- Jeremy Brooks
Ugh! Watch your feet. It might ooze down onto them!!!
- Rick Cogley
Will the gum melt in a summer heat wave? ... maybe if someone applied a heat gun?
- Andrew C
It's all dried up but the texture still remains. It's pretty much the same temperature all year round in SLO too.
- Rodfather
not sure if i should be grossed out or completely amazed
- Angela P.
Why do I imagine hungry street bums licking the walls of this alley.
- Tony C (Unrated)
eww
- stefan
That's gross!!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I have made numerous amazing contributions to that wall! Oh and best part... is when your friend shoves you into the wall as a joke! Ugh!
- Susan Beebe
Is that load bearing gum?
- Ralph Whitbeck
Prediction:- @finkd will buy Tweetdeck & Seesmic instead of Twitter - cutting off Twitter's "AIR" supply
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Finkd is Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg.
- Robert Scoble
Elaborating a little more, probably 2/3 of Twitter's traffic is through API usage - front runners in the desktop app department are Tweetdeck and Twhirl (owned by Seesmic) - also I feel video comments would work much better between friends and family on the Facebook timeline (I know FB has some methods already)
- Andy Beard
I am not sure it is sad, I doubt it would kill Twitter, but it might make Twitter just a public syndication channel for the content you want fully in public, at least for those who use Facebook on a regular basis. Also far better for Twitter than Facebook developing their own desktop apps where Twitter support might just be a feature on a todo list.
- Andy Beard
It really depends on access control - look at the lead they have lost to Yammer, but there are similar markets for instance I don't babble on about my son all day on Twitter, only my immediate family would be interested. My family however don't need to know which pub I am meeting friends at, my launch partners only need to see when they are meant to send emails, or if servers are running smooth, etc etc - Twitter currently is just a public stream - or multiple accounts
- Andy Beard
You are awesome Tweetdeck ... but seriously?
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Even Twhirl is being a resource monster
- andy brudtkuhl
All your RAM is belong to TweetDeck
- Louis Gray
welcome to the world of AIR apps
- Steven Hodson
the price you pay to use Adobe software
- Bill
A friend of mine started using DestroyTwitter instead, and likes it a lot. http://destroytwitter.com It's no TweetDeck at this point, but a number of features--including groups--are apparently in the works. I like it and am using it full-time now instead of TD (anxiously awaiting groups...). Does not have laconi.ca/identi.ca support (yet?). Developer is responsive, seems smart, app seems well written and is actively under development.
- abacab
It's because of my dislike of AIR that I've been thinking about writing a desktop client for Twitter. It would essentially be a rip-off of TweetDeck. Mac-only of course.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I meant to add that the resources footprint is ridiculously smaller than TD, despite still being AIR-based. That may change, but the difference is night/day, and reason enough to change from TD for me, for now.
- abacab
Beyond just resource mismanagement, I just don't like AIR-styled UIs.
- Akiva Moskovitz
What's the point of AIR, exactly. To keep things uniform across platforms? You still have to hope that Adobe supports your OS, right?
- Shawn Farner
I realized this not long after installing. As a result, I have moved over to a web-based app called peoplebrowsr.com. Give it a try! It has many of the same features a a few more that I think you'll like.
- Damond Nollan
@Damond I don't mean to be rude but that's bullshit .. as neat as web-based apps might be there are those of us that *want* *good* desktop apps. Sloughing the problem off by suggesting we accept this kind of developer lackadaisical coding and if not happy use a web app is screwed up.
- Steven Hodson
@Steven I don't suggest that you accept "developer lackadaisical coding," hence the reason to stop supporting it. I like good apps just like the next guy, but another issue that I had with it was the lack of mobility. As I move from one computer to another, there is little I could take with me. I found that I had to reset my user preferences on each computer. With a web-based app, I don't have too. If you like TweetDeck or Twhirl, by all means keep using it, but as an alternative...
- Damond Nollan
The solution is .NET, thanks to the Mono project. It's no slouch in the resources department itself, but it never goes to the extremes that AIR does, so long as you use WinForms or Gtk#. And the same executable! can be used on Windows, Linux, or OSX, just like that.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Do apps have native interfaces when using Mono or do they all look like Windows apps?
- Akiva Moskovitz
I wonder if it's that much of a hog on my Macbook
- andy brudtkuhl
@chris - yes i've thought about building a twitter app with winforms but probably not worth the effort... plus I hate developing WinForms
- andy brudtkuhl
@andy Yeah, WinForms isn't fun to work with, but it's certainly much more efficient, at least memory-wise, than dealing with WPF. As well, WPF doesn't work on Mono, and Gtk# doesn't come by default with Microsoft.NET. It's a lowest common denominator, though, which is enough reason for most people to use it for anything that exists on more than just Windows.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Akiva Mono's implementation of WinForms makes applications continue to look like they were run on Windows. However, the window frame (title bar, icon, min/max/close, etc) is platform-specific, so it'll look appropriate for each platform.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Josh - apparently it's a problem with Adobe AIR (correct me if im wrong). I had to kill the process to return my computer to normal
- andy brudtkuhl
Facinating insight josh. It wouldn't be an apples to apples comparison even for a complete re-write from the API up. But would be a mighty intesting data point.
- Roberto Bonini
We're still a while away from Silverlight's promise of cross-platform applications. Moonlight doesn't yet support Silverlight 2.0 applications, and is still pretty untested.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
right below the Tweetdeck line in @andy's screenshot above is Twhirl, also an AIR app...yet it's consuming less than 25% of memory in comparison. don't you think that suggests the problem is Tweetdeck, and not AIR, per se?
- .LAG liked that
TweetDeck leaks memory over time. Eventually, if left on, it crashes my computer. It's TweetDeck, not AIR.
- Robert Scoble
I run Twhirl all day, on WinXP, no problems
- .LAG liked that
wow...i'm gonna have to look at that task monitor closer...
- .LAG liked that
Every AIR app I've run on my computer has leaked like a sinking ship, not just TweetDeck. I'm prone to believe its a framework problem, although I won't absolve TweetDeck itself of all blame.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Chris... when you say my computer, are you a PC or a Mac?
- .LAG liked that
DestroyTwitter is very cool now .. I use it all the time and I love that they supported themes recently =) FTW
- Hisham Sadek هشام
Will look into DestroyTwitter ...I like Twhirl because it can also access Identi.ca, FF, and Seesmic, all of which I frequent.
- .LAG liked that
amazing, that people are FRIENDFEED looking for a better way to manage their tweets.... With some tricksing FF can do pretty much all of what Tweetdeck does.
- Matthew DeVries
@Matthew...that's true. FF has "real time" and search...it's all right here.
- .LAG liked that
yeah, tweetdeck has been slowing my computer down big time lately
- Robert DeBord
@LAG PC, WinVista.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
1G ram...serious
- ybs
@Chris... thanks. So, basically, all the complains about Tweetdeck, Twhirl, and AIR are coming from Windows users. hmm....
- .LAG liked that
Are there any Silverlight 3-based twitter clients?
- τorƍue
FF co-founder Paul Buchheit joins Gillmor Gang Saturday 3PM recording live on http://live.twit.tv/
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I wish live.twit.com worked on the iPhone, how about simulcasting onto ustream?
- Christian Burns
sound was a real issue today for me...I figured I'll download it later. as for the chat rooms, well..if I can't say anything nice, best not say anything. The Kevin Rose legacy lives on in Leo's fan base.
- Karoli
A Completely Unscientific (Yet Accurate) Look at Social Sites - http://brainz.org/complet...
Ahsan Ali aka. Slick, Jick Nan, Angela P. and 172 other people liked this
Myspace: "12% Proud owners of butterfly tramp stams 7% Club promoters 27% Bathroom mirror exhibitionists 11% Animated .gif birthday cake comment fairies 17% Investors who gobbled up virual glitter factories on the cheap 24% People that haven't found out about Facebook yet 2% People who can't afford match.com" LOL!!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
That's good stuff!
- Patrick Jordan
ROFL. That's hilarious.
- Admiral Anika
hahaha!
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Haha.. "Investors who gobbled up virtual glitter factories on the cheap"
- Rodfather
Change the 19% Live blogging their lunch to Live blogging their toddler and that is totally me. And I am very unapologetic about it :)
- Michelle Martinez
Those numbers are 150% accurate.
- Richard Lawler
Facebook: "15% People who have no idea what is going on, they just like to look at pictures" HAHA
- Mona Nomura
Thats great!
- Bluesun 2600
Scoble doesn't have a twitter %age of his own? Maybe that for FF analysis...
- Rob Kramer
great charts - hope they will add other networks
- Alexander Benker
What's Propeller? This is making me LAUGH "22% SEO Spammers 11% Nigerian Scammers 17% Viagra Spammers 50% Propeller Employees"
- Mona Nomura
ha...sounds like I am among the 14% for twitter.
- Midori
man i can relate to so many of these hahahaha
- Alfredo
Love it!
- sofarsoShawn
It's funny because it's true LOL
- Mona Nomura
That's hysterical!
- Shevonne
Whomever did this, just won the internet in my books!
- embee
I can't WAIT to see the next round!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Correction: it's funny because it's *extremely* true
- mike fabio
from twhirl
awesome. I should have browsed FriendFeed more before posting this one myself!
- Thomas Hawk
made me laugh
- Richard Akerman
hahhahahhhaha I love the Facebook 12% (or something) that has no clue what's going on but loves looking at pictures -- that's almost all my real life firends on there LOL
- Mona Nomura
from IM
so many damn truths there LOL
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
haha, this is cool. where's friendfeed?... aah, to small and geeky I guess
- Peter Efland
Funny because it's true!
- tomit
Somebody had to come up with a piechart for FF
- Jason
now this is FUNNY.
- michael sean wright
Facebook: 13% Our moms. Mom hasn't hit Facebook yet, but she is on Twitter... and followed my husband... and Britney Spears.... BUT NOT ME.
- Alix Whitmire
hahhahahhahahha!! Alix LOL!
- Mona Nomura
I guess I'm in the MySpace 12. :)
- EricaJoy
Yeah... and I cant block her mom.... :(
- Shawn Whitmire
I bookmarked this yesterday, hunted all over for copyright notice or authorship, because I want to use it in a presentation. Couldn't find way to attribute aside from URL! Generous folks ...
- Patricia F. Anderson
this is awesome
- Angela P.
I know Mona, the MS categories are hliarious! And what about divorcés on fb?
- fn (fairnymph)
Hey - Myspace is still useful for independent bands! I'm embarrassed to have its iPhone app (on my last page) so I can check up on my band's issues/shows/whining/etc. on the go... We do, however, get lots of friend requests from butterfly tramp stamps, and we deny them because there is no way they looked at our profile. But seriously, if a BAND denies your friendship on MySpace you need to re-evaluate your life.
- Isabelle
Awesome! This is two weeks old but I just found it today.
- Stephan Miller
from Friend Deck
Here is Why Facebook is not as Cool as FriendFeed and Why it Totally Makes My Head Hurt Sometimes - http://flickr.com/photos...
Jorg Jansen, Jens Christian Freund, deakaz and 283 other people liked this
No. Way.
- LogEx
-nuff said....or not said. I don't want any more snowballs thrown at me...PLEASE!
- Jennifer Windrum
Yeah, all that crap is pretty annoying.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
and you people complain about a little chapstick and lips every now and again. sheesh. I'd much rather see chapstick and lips any day of the week over getting a "crush jason alexmi" request or getting *two* sammy is sexy requests in the same day!
- Thomas Hawk
=O
- Shevonne
You know you can turn that off right?
- Eric P
hahahahhaa
- Shevonne
horrible
- andy brudtkuhl
OUCCCCH (E.T. Voice)
- sean percival
no doubt. i'm always blocking apps. i don't want play around with hatchlings or pieces of flair or get involved in any dang food fights.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
wow
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
That right there is the biggest reason I can't stand Facebook and I would dump it in a heartbeat if it didn't mean that all of my family and distant friends would instantly have a shitfit.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Also - Facebook = "Real life Friends". If you only friend people you're actually friends with it's actually a terrific application for keeping in touch. If you try to treat it like a Friendfeed/Twitter/MySpace then you wind up with a load of crap and its utility takes a nose dive.
- Eric P
PREACH!!
- Derrick
thankfully i've avoided this kind of garbage
- chrisofspades
I block just about every app invite I get. I'm glad some people like it, but I despise ANY application, social network, or whatever that the second step in adding the app is to SPAM all of my friends with it. This is a terrible process and needs to be done away with.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I didn't add them. They are invitations.
- Thomas Hawk
Totally agree with you. couldn't have said it better.
- Karoli
Sean hit it perfectly. It's why I use Facebook as nothing more than an address book for people from my past. That has always made me sick, screen 2 is "Tell me who to spam!"
- Matthew DeVries
@Haggis: Agreed. And I too block pretty much every app invite I get. The irritating part is when someone gets all uppity with me because I didn't return their snowball or superpoke them back. I'm like...srsly? You send me that ridiculous crap and then have the nerve to get mad at ME for not participating?
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I am blocking most apps, because things can get outta hand ...
- Rene Wirtz
@Amanda: I tell/have told all my friends that they can send those requests, but that I categorically deny all of them. It's surprising how that already decreases the number of requests.
- Rene Wirtz
I do get tired of all that crap. My bro sent me a video to watch on Farcebook a few days ago, but to see it I would have to download yet another silly wall. I don't need more than one, nor do I need to install multiple calendars so you can see when my birthday is. Go to my profile.
- Ian May
For every app invite i block, i seem to get twice as many the following day. Its better now their not all over people profiles pages when they do get added though.
- Simon Wicks
Thomas - I think you're really gettign confused between Facebook and these leeches trying to suck off the Facebook platform. Just ignore them and these requests would never appear. Or better yet - DEfriend anyone who would be so stupid as to include you on a list of requests. JUST DUMP THEM - and everything will be fine.
- Marc Canter
But seriously...you really should accept my Pirates vs. Ninjas request.
- Adam
You're just waaaay too popular, Tom ;-)
- Dave Fortheloss
Yep. I put a moratorium on adding apps and made that abundantly clear, but I still get all the cr@p.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
this is just one example of the silliness and boring nature of facebook. Frankly it's just not engaging. There's so much wrong with it and this is just the start. FriendFeed is a far superior platform for probably 100 different reasons.
- Thomas Hawk
I have found that blocking invites from certain users and applications is very helpful.
- Adam
@Thomas I agree with you 100%. I think FB is near unusable.. You're right it's not engaging - it's more of a distraction and there's very little value proposition for me to connect with people. I get the same with email/IM/flickr.. FF is far superior in my estimation
- andy brudtkuhl
that's just crazy! insane! crazy?...insane?
- .LAG liked that
Holy crap and I cry when I see 3 of them on my bar.
- Admiral Anika
Just looked at this and confirmed that I have no interest in joining Facebook.
- TranceMist
I'm not a fan of the tons of virtual goods and apps either, but I've got tons of friends who would qualify as "normal people" and cannot imagine living without FB. It's a rich way for them to keep in touch with people. I like FF a bunch but I also recognize the bandwagon effect that exists with FB.
- Cecyl Hobbs
A picture is worth a 1000 words.
- Eric Logan
*Brain cramp*
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
HOLY FRAKKIN' FRAK
- Josh Haley
Sweet baby Jesus
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've just been blocking all Facebook apps.
- Morton Fox
INSANE Bro!
- Francis Aldana
@Morton Fox: I do the same. Problem is that you have to opt out of each crappy app that anyone you know has managed to dig up. If you don't log in often and deal with these head-on, the simple act of opting out can be daunting.
- Keith McCammon
It's striking how many people hate Facebook who nevertheless for various reasons feel unable to abandon it -- not so much a virus as a fungus. It's depressing to think that due to network lock-in my daughter may be stuck on it for years to come.
- Tim Ostler
something will come along to replace it. it's the inevitability of things.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I don't get why people who don't like apps don't block them all, or why people who do like them feel the need to send invites to everyone, let alone whine that you haven't accepted. Most apps I use have a button that shows your friends with the app, and I only send to those.
- Alix Whitmire
@Keith IIRC there's a greasemonkey script that lets you block them all at once.
- Alix Whitmire
Yep. Stuff like that's why I get the heebie jeebies about 5-10 mins after logging into Facebook.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Ahhhhhh, the voice of reason! I'm so glad I'm not alone.
- Rob Fahrni
RT yourself from June 2008?
- ThePicMan
Sweet baby jesus on a stick!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Jebus Herschel Krustovsky! That's ridiculous!
- Abbas Haider Ali
You should make that your Twitter background. :)
- Pete Delucchi
This post is what made me finally deactivate my Facebook account. I've had enough.
- Rochelle
HUGE LOL
- Kamilah Gill
aw man, what happened to the flickr image?
- Kamilah Gill
yep, I just IGNORE these types of apps/notifications- I have SO many sent to me and I would literally need to quite my job to attend to them full-time. It's insane. I think 95% of them are a waste of time imho... there are always going to be those people who love to do the spamming but it doesn't mean you need to pay attention to them :) One part of FB that I also do not love.
- Deanna Belle Govoni
This is one of the big reasons why I try and limit friends to people I know in person, and a few others who I can trust to not act like invite-wielding idiots.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
that's crazy!
- K.D.
Why would you blame facebook for you having idiot friends?
- Richard Lawler
Who ever said Facebook is cool? It's a rambling mess suitable only for people with lots of spare time and nothing else to do with it.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
shit like that is what makes me hate FB. they need an option saying "please auto ignore all invites from everyone". i used to have a greasemonkey script which did it, but the bloody things are getting smarter
- Terry O'Fee
Richard: Who said I have idiot friends? Intelligence has nothing to do with people trying to share their fave FB apps with everyone else, especially before Facebook put in limitations to keep apps from spamming their users' friends.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Thing is, once burned, twice shy. So only people I can trust to not send me lots of invites get to be friended to me on Facebook.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
it's just some people. i know great people who forward every single email online. there's one person, ive given her an old yahoo email adress so i dont hurt her feelings :P
- Terry O'Fee
Smart people catch on to spamming apps quickly, they recognize when they've been spammed, instead of signing up and passing them along, or continuing to request you join (insert game of the week.) If your friends can't figure out what's annoying to you, how can you expect Facebook to?
- Richard Lawler
immediately block app requests as they come in! according to the picture there were not so many apps involved here, but blocking them from the beginning on spares you more invitations..
- Johannan Edelman
I thought my FaceBook was bad when requests piled up, but you definitely win! I don't feel quite so irritated about it, now ;o)
- Seth Greenblatt
Yeah, that's one thing I hate about FB, those cutesy apps. I almost never participate in that...
- Rick Cogley
Try Facebuprofen.
- david beckwith
Just say no to 99.9% of all facebook apps and your problems are solved... :)
- Walt Ruppar
Some of my friends are so annoying on FB that I have to permanently block all invites from them. Bloody Blood-sucking-vampire-stricken-greek-godish-monsters.
- Aman
ha ha
- Saravanan
Aman: Sad to see I'm not the only one who suffers so.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Chris: Indeed it is sad. I am in the process of forming a group called "People who hate people".
- Aman
WOAH! You know, I think it is funny, I removed ALL my apps the other day, AND told all my friends that I removed my apps, and they are STILL sending me app invites. If you keep up on it, it's fine. If you don't, it looks like this... /sigh
- Danielle Closs
Friends oh Friends.
- Aman
But FB is still better than the Google counterpart - Orkut. The sleaziest Social Website of all times. Their tag line : "Its so easy to get molested online, let us make it easier for you".
- Aman
Holy Facebook Crap Batman!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Some apps are good but most are just spam. Good apps are hard to find but there are a few nice ones out there, I like the ff app and the twitter app. I also use the slayers app and the compare people app. I'm a little shallow.
- Wesley Robin Guerrero
I hate the updates that I don't need. A large number of apps are useless.
- Palak Mathur
Urgh! So true!
- Vera
I just ignore pretty much everything that's not a message or a new friend request.
- Jim in Real Time
NADD
- bifurcafe
DELETE BUTTTTTOOOONNNNN!!!!!
- Susan Beebe
Mine looks almost as bad as that and I only have 8 friends (real life friends & family)
- April Russo (app103)
Use http://www.ignoreall.com/ Cleans up everything in a jiffy.
- Jauder Ho
I like FF for commenting on stories and seeing a discussion. I like FB for smaller discussions. FF bigest minus for me is the lack of a notification if someone specifically responds to me.
- ChiliMac
Agree with ChiliMac.
- Aman
That's a big list... I'm getting tired of hitting the ignore as well.
- Gary Gifford Jr
Believe me, even a good confrontation with those slimy friends does do any good. They keep sending invites even after that.
- Aman
I'd be a rich man if if I got a penny for everytime I click ignore. I'm just not making that much use out Facebook nowadays! That's why I decided to give FriendFeed a test trial.
- Vincent Nguyen
This is why they made the block function, I've blocked over 500 applications and I don't get many requests anymore. I promise, it works.
- Aaron Myers
It looks like facebook just threw up on your screen, IGNORE ALL!! And back away slooowly...
- Peter To
I don't get it. I have 600+ friends on FB (not crazy huge, but not an insubstantial number). About once a week, I do a combo of ignore-app's and ignore-all-apps from a few friends, and voila! In about 1-2 minutes, I'm all set. 1-2 minutes a week. How many friends do you have on FB, Thomas? And how many years has it been since you've cleared things out? While I think FB shares some of the blame, is this situation any different than not cleaning *anything else* out once in a while?
- Adam Lasnik
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