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I love FriendFeed but hate Facebook. Why are relationships always so complicated? Sigh.
Sebastian, Saeed Ashour, Daniel Dulitz and 11 other people liked this
#DONTSELLMYFRIENDFEED
- Sinem Co
I love FF's UI, the minute I'm forced to log into Facebook and use FF through Facebook, I'll quit.
- Ray Cromwell
Let's just all root for the FriendFeed team to bring some much-needed clarity and simplicity of design to Facebook.
- Joel Webber
UI design isn't FB's real issue one way or another. And FB's API design didn't lack clarity or simplicity. But I imagine part of the way FB got as closed as it is might have been its product vision, and this deal might possibly change that.
- Daniel Dulitz
Facebook Users - Here's What FriendFeed Brings to the Family - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Baard @ Pixum, Helen Sventitsky and Surferbill liked this
BIG NEWS today: "BREAKING: Facebook Acquires FriendFeed" - http://mashable.com/2009...
Svein Mork Dahl, Surferbill, Max Fernandez and 2 other people liked this
I thought for a minute that i was Aprils Fools day!
- Frode Stenstrøm
Haha...wait, it's August, not April. Boooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Christopher A Carr
FriendFeed 101: See updates by service from your friends (only blogs, flickr, bookmarks, shares, etc.)
Keith - @tsudo, Wayne Sutton, Jim Connolly and 52 other people liked this
You can enter service: and then the name to show a subset of the feeds.
- Louis Gray
For example: Blogs: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Flickr: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Delicious: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Twitter: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Google Reader: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Smugmug: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
And this works for any list, or you can search just your friends, or anybody else as an individual or their friends.
- Louis Gray
Blogs by Jesse Stay, for example: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Thanks for this.
- Sean Oliver
Internal updates from Robert Scoble: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Smugmug or Flickr photos from me: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Have a list called Favorites? Find blog posts. http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Louis, you need to add your own username in [friends:], otherwise it searches [who:everyone]
- Jérôme Flipo
I think Friendfeed should reserve the username "me" for such situation (sharing filters)
- Jérôme Flipo
Jérôme is correct - use http://friendfeed.com/search... ( +friends:me )
- Nathan Chase
Nathan, I didn't know but it works! Friendfeed is so intuitive :)
- Jérôme Flipo
Will you correct them all, Louis?
- Jérôme Flipo
Jerome, I will fix, per your note.
- Louis Gray
Building on Jerome's note, you can search for any of these services by other people's friends as well.
- Louis Gray
Blogs by friends of Paul Buchheit: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Flickr updates by friends of Thomas Hawk: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
Google Reader shares by friends of Mike Fruchter: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
GMail updates by friends of Kevin Fox: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
This is a nice list. There's no way to split internal to web and bookmarklet and email right? This stuff should be in a wiki.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
I'm still waiting for all Flickchart posts: http://friendfeed.com/search... :( They've got the hiding of API-services down, now just need to be able to search by them too.
- Nathan Chase
That's 11 services Louis - 60 more to go, and make them accessible by me clicking the service icon. Then ff will be totally fixed, and unborked from the upgrade.
- Matthew DeVries
Jérôme, yeah I commented about a "me" for URLs too awhile back, it would make things far easier when sharing links.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://friendfeed.com/search... This one I use to find Louis' latest children pictures. Sarah is less common than Matthew (would get a lot of false positives, like every time Louis replied to me), and since they're twins that search limits false positives and usually brings you all the pictures.
- Matthew DeVries
How'd I miss this? Would be a good blog post/reference for friendfeed
- Mark Essel
FriendFeed has been almost completely blocked in Iran as far as we can tell. We have a large number of very active Iranian users, and we noticed a steep decline in activity yesterday. Graph below.
ILLA, egza, Ozer Wrzl (EN) and 789 other people liked this
:(
- Paul Buchheit
:( :(
- Rachel Lea Fox
:-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Related to the election?
- τorƍue
:(
- Ross Miller
that's so bad...
- Eren Emre Kanal
:-(
- Kevin Fox
τorƍue: Yes, as far as we know
- Bret Taylor
این نمودار نشاندهنده افت فرندفید به دلیل بسته شدن آن در ایران است
- Mycaptain
Bret: Is this based on IP numbers located in Iran, or actual activity from those users? If it's IP based, it'd be interesting to see the activity on a user basis and see if they've been able to route around the blocking.
- Ken Sheppardson
:(
- Marina Remi
Could it be related to Twitter being blocked (and therefore the twitter traffic import being blocked)?
- Stephan Osmont
):
- Jim Norris
Some users are definitely going through proxies. This is total # of unique visits from IPs originating in Iran
- Bret Taylor
That tells it's own, sad, story.
- WorldofHiglet
:(((
- Oğuz Serdar
Wow.
- Rochelle
If Twitter were blocked and FriendFeed weren't, I'd expect an uptick in FriendFeed activity, not a 92% drop.
- Kevin Fox
I.e. given all the users who've previously accessed the site from an Iran IP number, how many have been active from different numbers in the past 2 days.
- Ken Sheppardson
Sad.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Instead of "liking" this, shouldn't we have an "unlike" button?
- Steven Melfi
:( Bret: According to Stephen fry, these are the iran proxies: 218.128.112.18:8080 218.206.94.132:808 218.253.65.99:808 219.50.16.70:8080 . Can you track these IPs?
- Roberto Bonini
I knew this day was coming. Too bad.
- Robert Scoble
Steven - same feeling here. I always feel weird "liking" bad stories on FF
- Mike Bracco
How does traffic from China look? Or North Korea?
- τorƍue
:(
- Helen Sventitsky
do not like :(
- Tamara
@τorƍue Twitter has been restored in China
- Stephan Osmont
Hey... we saw issues with blogfa.com as well: http://blog.spinn3r.com/2009...
- Kevin A. Burton
like for spread but not like for the situation
- Imprenditore
I wonder what the international community can do about stuff like this. Eventually the "bad guys" will lose.
- Michiel Sikkes
Hopefully, we'll never see a graph like this for Turkey...
- Onur Şentüre
that's because the government has blocked access to friendfeed,twitter,facebook,youtube and ... after election and after protests in Iran cities !
- Farshad
Man... :( That's really a corrupt government. Hope it gets better soon.
- Peter
That's horrible.
- Barış (beyn.org)
Kheyzaran mentioned over the weekend that both Twitter and FF were blocked for Iran starting I believe on Friday. He is using a proxy when possible to keep us updated
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Bret, any analysis about how many people unable to access FF directly are still able to access it via proxy?
- Daniel Dulitz
:-(
- bookmeister
:( Let the voices be heard!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
So sad...
- Luka
Sigh :(
- Havang
can you suggest a way in friendfeed to show the situation in iran to the world ? its very important
- Farshad
I doubt any regular North Koreans have computers τorƍue
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Daniel: Well, we are still getting a bunch of Farsi comments and posts. They may be Persians from outside Iran or from Iranians using proxies. We don't have a detailed analysis breaking those down at this point.
- Bret Taylor
The stigmata of evil.
- Tim Tyler
all cominucation devices are blocked .even phone & cell phones !
- MohammadReza
see this for example : http://abcnews.go.com/Interna...
- Farshad
Watching the "guerrilla cyberwarfare" aspect of the elections and reactions has been fascinating. Iran's universities are obviously full of resourceful, passionate geeks.
- John Craft
not good in terms of freedom
- Sheri Fresonke Harper
this is really bad. i hope there's some resolution to this. the people or iran have shown a lot of strength and courage to protest the illegitimacy of recent events. i don't think this will stop things
- Cee Bee
Is it possible that the same folks from Iran that are active on Friendfeed are the ones out protesting?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
please help us , we are under attack ,change friendfeed logo if you can
- فرزاد
we need a new way
- Semiramis
@MVB we all are Protests
- MohammadReza
That's sad.
- EricaJoy
:( Dislike.
- Ruchira S. Datta
:(
- © D/\\/IIID ℠ ®
P.S. Kevin should turn the logo green in support of the Iranian's being disenfranchised.
- EricaJoy
:((
- ramin
For those that are in Iran: Have you tried http://fftogo.com as a workaround?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
make a room for us, invite your friends we will fill it with latest news
- Farshad
I'm completely for having a fair vote, but I'm not sure that I'd want to try and align FriendFeed with a particular candidate, which is what a green logo would imply.
- Kevin Fox
Many iranians using proxies to access FF. and therefore their IPs changes to fake IP .
- آدمیرال
MohammadReza: Maryam's mom is still able to call her relatives and friends in Tehran, so they are keeping some voice traffic open, if not all.
- Robert Scoble
Farshad, I'm trying to post news here: http://friendfeed.com/world-n...
- Kol Tregaskes
No words for that...
- Frank
thanks kol :)
- Farshad
If Iran thinks they have nothing to fear, then why block Friendfeed?
- Frode Stenstrøm
Frode: because the government is like China: they believe that by retarding the flow of information they will reduce the threat of protests and governmental overthrow.
- Robert Scoble
Very reminiscent of the prelude to the fall of the Shah
- Alan Morris
I don't speak Persian, so I don't know all the searches, but there are still (luckily) a lot of Persian users posting: http://friendfeed.com/search.... If you are Persian and looking for updates, try our search engine to find the few users who still have access.
- Bret Taylor
Frode: and in Iran's case, they are run by conservative religious authorities and they don't like the fact that they are not in control of information flow like they used to be. They like to think they can still control information sources and, since they can't, they try to block places where their citizens can go to share information.
- Robert Scoble
is it a joke? iranian users seems the %90 of friend feed. it could not be real!
- Fırat DEMİREL
Firat: There are no units on the vertical axis of the chart.
- Ken Sheppardson
Firat: This is a chart of traffic from Iran, not of FF's total traffic.
- Kevin Fox
Firat, i doubt that this graph is a percentage graph... probably more likely that it's measuring hits, sessions, or total data transfered (mb, kb, etc)
- Chris Heath
Kevin: what impact did this have on FF's overall traffic?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Iran is the #6 country for FriendFeed in terms of page views per day.
- Bret Taylor
something is cooking out there...
- mehdi
Thanks all for answers. i told that it could not be real.. :) excuse me, i ve just read Bret's notice and looked at breaking point. i saw what i've missed before.. bad news for ff and iran.. :(
- Fırat DEMİREL
These statistics are incredible, especially the normally heavy useage of FF in Iran.
- Curt Mercadante
Bret Taylor, we can tag our pix and vids about iran election by an english keyword such as 'iran' or 'iranelection'. I think it will help to ff non-persian users to find out more about unrests in iran.
- آدمیرال
Iran restored cell phone service Sunday that had been down in the capital since Saturday. But Iranians still could not send text messages from their mobile phones, and the government increased its Internet filtering in an apparent attempt to undercut opposition voices. Social networking sites including Facebook and Twitter were also not working.
- Üstün Üzüm
Do *not* like. :(
- Pete Delucchi
:(
- Russ Jackson
:(
- Mitch
آقا یکی توضیح بده اینکه من(ما) لایک میزنیم! عملا دیسلایک ه ! :(
- younes
Younes says that our likes to this graph mean dislike to tehran's regime censorship
- آدمیرال
I can't find any evidence of Twitter being blocked in Iran. Anyone?
- Martin Bryant
TechCrunch just picked this up: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for the translation آدمیرال !
- Ross Miller
ممنونم آدمیرال عزیز
- younes
خواهش دوست من.
- آدمیرال
martin: those words are not mine actually from a news article from washinton post.
- Üstün Üzüm
On twitter people are retweeting the IPs and ports of unblocked proxies, can we do something like that here?
- Canageek
martin, i'm from iran. twitter is blocked. what evidence you wanna? screenshot!?
- آدمیرال
yes Canageek. we use proxies for tweeting
- آدمیرال
Authorities blocking the internet are just reinforcing solidarity between people, can't they understand ?
- Stanislas Jourdan
Stanislas: not to mention they encourage their smartest and richest people to leave (the ones who have technical skills). There's a reason why Silicon Valley has 10,000 or more Iranians living here. Their government sucks and the people are getting tired of it. Of course if their government was great I would never have met my wife (who grew up in Tehran). So, there is good to come out of a crappy government! :-)
- Robert Scoble
it has always seemed to me that the iranian user base is ENORMOUS here. wow. unbelievable.
- edythe
It is interesting how much civil unrest that is brewing across the globe towards their governments. The knee jerk reactions in attempting to block certain websites shows how much they didn't expect the net to become such a widespread conduit for cutting through the bs and informing those that wish to know. I wish those who take a stand all the best.
- alphaxion
:(
- Roberto
Another way for those that are in Iran is to access through Netvibes (but I don't know if it works or if it's blocked too), adding Friendfeed, Gmail and so on such as modules
- Roberto
Thanks for sharing this, Bret. It's valuable evidence of what's going on, evidence which wouldn't have been available even a few years ago.
- Michael Nielsen
sad
- Pedro Beltrao
Very interesting...so much for democracy and voting rights in Iran...
- freedom fighter mom
If anybody in Iran feels up to it, can you temporarily disable your proxy and run a traceroute to friendfeed.com and twitter.com then post the results here?
- EricaJoy
Bret and Paul, can you let us know if the traffic comes back, which would tell us they've unblocked FriendFeed?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: absolutely, we will let everyone know when it comes back up
- Bret Taylor
from email
Steven: You Like that it was posted, not the content of the post.
- Tanath
Bret, thanks for sharing the info about the dive. Shame, but what could we have expected from the Iranian status quo?
- Jon Osterholm
البته یه چیز هم هست اونکه بعد از فیلترینگ همه با آی پی غیر ایرانی می ان فرندفید و برای همنی آمارشون اینجا ثبت نمیشه ... وگرنه فکر نمی کنم از لحاظ تعداد نفراتی که میومدن کم شده باشه ... بلکه هم بیشتر
- HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ
Yes, it happend and we have to use proxy to access friendfeed. Look at democracy in Iran...
- Zahra (raoros)
The coversations and comments here are educational.
- Seek Ground
@بی بی, you might try https://friendfeed.com/
- Jim Norris
:(
- imabonehead
Damn.
- Steven Perez
http://mojipage.com register in this website and add ff widget! twitter is blocked in iran so I am posting twitts by a script or choqok(http://choqok.gnufolks.org/)
- ★amin.m★
from MojiPage
Good luck to all of you trying to get around the censorship. I hope the big sites are doing what they can to help out.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Looking at the potential of this event in the future for numerous causes is mind-boggling. Really amazing.
- Charlie Anzman
Come to think of it, does FF have a presence in China? I'd imagine it's blocked there. I've seen Chinese on here, but never sure if that's from China or speakers outside.
- anna sauce
Tnx Bret
- C o n f o r m i s t
Thnaks :)
- Exir
این چی میگه؟
- Lord hozeh
ببین شب انتخاباتی چکار کردیم با این فرفر. wow!
- ali
چه همه لااااااااااااااااایک!
- ali
:((
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Damn.
- Derrick
Expected.
- Michael W. May
Yes, Friendfeed is blocked in Iran. Right now the papers and TV channels here are controlled by the government and our access to satellite channels is blocked too. Friendfeed and Twitter are quite vital for us now. Our main source of exchanging information and news is Friendfeed. Via Friendfeed we let everyone know that where people need help and where to go and how to help them and...
more...
- Selma
Selma: does https://friendfeed.com/ work for you?
- Bret Taylor
Nope, they have blocked all https addresses, we have had to sign in to Friendfeed via anti-filters for the past few months.
- Selma
its a shame. it was one the main media we used to inform ppl. thats why they filtered it. now many users cant sign in
- Myri∂m
Can't we "help" in some way? Providing proxies, I don't know, the kind of stuff pirates do. Pirates, and people trying to make a Revolution happen....
- Zackatoustra
It may not be long before Turkey joins the party.
- Sarp Tüzün
It's very sad to see this happen
- Michael Fidler
tnx all of you...
- emin
internet was our last hope ...but it block...and we cant use it easily...
- Opium
:(
- Caroline
I just spoke with my friend Andres, the main BBC correspondent for the Middle East/Afghanistan, and he mentioned the web is being fire walled in Iran much the same as the the "Great Firewall" during last year's Olympics in China.
- sofarsoShawn
The Iranian websites that people used to exchange information about the election protests in Iran are under cyber-attacks by the government forces and from anonymous sources. Many of them are down right now. These Iranian websites were our few last remaining channels to inform people. What can we do about that? Is there anyone out there who can help us with this?
- emin
i was 53rd active user in friendfeed until this filtering. now i can open FF with proxies and if i can fine. a Vpn but many Vpn here come from companies that have relations with security services, i thunk they allow us to bypass filternig and then, they will arrest who has wrote against their goals
- خیزران kheyzaran
Can't we transfer the data/databases of the sites you, iranian guys, use to any new domain we could buy? I want to help. Not by throwing rocks to "security service" forces, but, at least, by making possible for what YOU have to say to go public, worldwide.
- Zackatoustra
FF is a useful website for Iranian People to get reliable information about demonstration against presidential election.
- پارسـا
so so sorry for iran people... I hope they will win...
- Tanaydin Sirin
and Now Yahoo messenger and google talk blocked in iran :((((
- پارسـا
Some amazing images from Iran - http://ff.im/42pgD
- Brent - Loving Life
Does http://fftogo.com work still?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Selma: 1- I don't use a proxy but clearing all but one (deleting them all logs me out) instance of each friendfeed.com cookie name and refreshing the page always solves this for me in Firefox. Has never happened on Lunascape or IE. Good luck.
- Alexandros Georgiadis
google block fftogo for iranian users!!!
- ★amin.m★
Friendfeedがイランでblockされているというコトらしい。いったいどういう理由でだか分からないけれど……もし、国内のゴタゴタの影響であればいずれtwitterも、ということになりかねないのかも。／でも、fftogoを使えば迂回できるのかな？
- Sakurai.Catshop
What about email, amin.m? Are you able to post to FF by emailing share@friendfeed?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I don't know about email. now I am using freegate or another site like http://mojipage.com
- ★amin.m★
Could http://dev.ctor.org/f2p, http://frienddeck.com or http://peoplebrwsr.com work for friendfeed?
- Alexandros Georgiadis
Very sad.
- Parth Awasthi
The reason I ask is because if you can email a post, then try sending it to share@friendfeed and also to YourUserName@friendfeed. Then when someone comments you'll receive an email about it and you can comment back to the thread via email as well.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
No wonder why !
- Pelin
+ don't use your ISP's DNS server, verify your Firewall, search for rootkits.. + If you really wanna use Tor, be 'mobile', check the onion's status, don't be too confident, continue to use encrypted protocols & 'mobile' ports. At least, read Tor's docs and articles about Tor & privacy/security..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
now chat like gmail or yahoo messenger are blocked too
- egza
I don't know if these can help but I put them here anyway http://www.noiseriver.com/ http://moopz.com/
- M F
Alexandros: Frienddeck could work for certain parts - posts and queries against user accounts are proxied through the App Engine, searches are direct against Friendfeed so they could probably not work.
- Paul Kinlan
Thanks :((
- مـهدی معتمد
:( booooooo
- Duncan Rawlinson
:o
- FKU
DAMN!
- Vicey
whoa, NOT good
- Susan Beebe
We wish the people of Iran well in these difficult times
- Marc
Not good at all. Best wishes to the Iranian FFers. I hope this whole mess gets cleared up quickly and with as little violence as possible
- Kamilah Gill
this is terribly wrong
- Francisco Costa
A government that takes away people's Friendfeed will not last long.
- Goran Zec
WOW CRAZY
- Matt Kaufman
I like that 667 people liked this, that's 667 people hoping it all gets resolved justly and peacefully.
- Steve C
now we are 676 people who liked that =) hoping too everthing gets resolved peacefully.
- Ibrahim Tarlig
Bret, is there any update on this? Is activity still low?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, we are still being blocked
- Bret Taylor
:-(
- Kol Tregaskes
:-(
- Arif Siddiquee
definitely DON'T LIKE this... >_< ...would love to be able do more than retweeting proxies
- Daniele
Best regards from Chile to all iranian people, we know a lot about bad government and human rights. Good luck, strength and courage to all of you.
- Roberto Arancibia
:(
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
It's to bad there is such attempts to block free flow of information, how long will it be before there is more amazing differences happening? Such limits, hmm.
- Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
They have to keep the militants in check. Thank goodness for the pipes that were broken.
- tony
بیا بالا ای فید من
- egza
Digg.com is block in Iran now.
- Sahandram
:-(
- Paolo Valzania
:((
- Mitchell Tsai
Interesting censorship- same can happen in America - I would like to talk to you abt Friendfeed and bringing over some large groups do you have time?
- JanSimpson
I've seen those censorship about FriendFeed (Iran). Do you know some interesting and objective blogposts about it?
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
:(
- Rachel Lea Fox
Do you have a similar graph as ff's been blocked in China?
- K.D.
And China now has a similar blockage. You should also check on it.
- Kenyth
Sometimes we forget how easy we have it than other countries. But until people revolt & I mean a HUGE revolution injustices will still go on.
- Gabriella Sannino
ای بابا این فید رو شخم زدن :))
- egza
پرلایک ترین فید فرفره این
- ramin
jeddi?
- HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ
from IM
آره حامد آمارشو قبلا در آورده ام
- egza
che jaleb , oonvaght por comment dartarin feed kodoome? bebinim mishe feed 2khtare mardom e farzad davan davan ro be oon beresoonim?
- HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ
from IM
حامد اینجا رو ببین http://friendfeed.com/amirsem...
- egza
ba mobile am ... to bebin bara manam tarif kon :D
- HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ
from IM
بعد از این فید که هستمی این http://friendfeed.com/funny-p... در رده دوم لایکه ,اینجا شش هزار و خورده ای کامنت داره http://friendfeed.com/ideali... این فید از فارسی زبانان فرفر همین نیما خودمون http://friendfeed.com/nimaa... در لایک 204 تا این هم از آیدا http://friendfeed.com/elaheye... بیشتر از 2400 کامنت داره
- egza
Apple won't let you use cool augmented reality iPhone apps -- yet - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol...
Daniel Rowley, Surferbill, Atul Arora and Robert Scoble liked this
That's why I prefer Android.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Facebook Status Messages To Become Publicly Searchable - http://www.nytimes.com/externa...
Surferbill and Philip Lei liked this
One of the most anticipated days in the history of social networking site Facebook has finally come: the company announced today that it has begun making status messages, photos and videos visible to the public at large by default instead of being visible only to a user's approved friends. Private by default has been a hallmark characteristic of Facebook, as high on the list as the lack of MySpace garishness. It's been key in making Facebook the biggest social network on earth. Now that's about to change. Facebook has been very careful to avoid the major backlash that it has seen in the past when making substantial changes to things like privacy settings, but it's hard to imagine there isn't going to be a backlash. From a web innovation perspective, the move could lead to some of the most exciting developments we've seen yet from the world of social media. Remember the News Feed? When Facebook launched its News Feed feature in September 2006, displaying all activity by a user's...
- Bwana ☠
Congratulations, Paul, for your creation, GMail, finally escaping beta. It was a long time coming and quite overdue.
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Tanath, Yant, Frankie Warren and 140 other people liked this
:)
- Bwana ☠
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome
- Andrew
*stands* <starts slow clap>
- CAJ, somewhere else
Used daily. Life's better with it. Indeed.
- Nathan Chase
hehe you can bring back the old logo in gmail labs with "back to beta"
- Alfredo
My logo still says beta... do i dare refresh and lose it?
- Chris Heath
Like Alfredo said, you can always get it back through a Gmail Labs toggle :)
- Bwana ☠
Woah! This is a day I never thought I would ever see. I had to jump over to Gmail just to confirm it.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
It is/was truly game-changing for the webmail world and we're all a little better off for it having been made. :)
- Keith Bourgoin
gmail beta2 'the quickening'... coming soon
- James Tenniswood
That was an EPIC Beta release :)
- Susan Beebe
What version of GMail are we on presently?
- Jorge Escobar
We should have a Coming Out Party!!!! Congrats Paul!
- Martha
I heart gmail.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
gmail...is how email should be. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
So, are there any real changes? What did gmail (or we) do to deserve this?
- TobiasVerhoog.com
no questions - !GREAT job on Earth ...... now, couple shortcuts are still missing, and lately I came to think it might be better to have subject box exposed by default ...
- Petr Buben
I'll miss the beta tag. :P
- Arnaldo M Pereira
good
- kang
I was hoping they'd have figured out how to let users delete chats by now.
- Rohit
I reckon they did it because its best as it is for using with wave.. not that I have used wave. ;o) I wish :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
If you check the "Labs" tab in Gmail settings, you'll notice the Back to Beta option: "Soothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Gmail logo."
- Amir Gharaat
That is pretty bad if you can't cope without the beta label!
- Mark O'Neill
Yay for GMail! I wonder how I lived without it, after using many inferior e-mail services over the years, before receiving an invitation from a friend in India, registering and forgetting about it for ages, before making it the only e-mail service I use.
- Tyson Key
Heh, is the "Back To Beta" option in Beta itself? ;)
- Tyson Key
11 Reasons why you absolutely need more sleep: http://om.ly/track/404.html AC
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Glad to be getting these valuable tips at 12:45 am
- Bret Rowe
Glad to be getting these tips after i got up this morning :)
- Roberto Bonini
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i was going to try and watch it live, but didn't get a chance. Hope you had fun.
- John Fogarty
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Why Dominos video response at http://www.youtube.com/watch... is going to be textbook:
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1. They did it in video. THAT is the way to respond. Not text. Video says MUCH MORE than text can.
- Robert Scoble
2. They went overboard with the response. They closed down the store and "sanitized it."
- Robert Scoble
3. The CEO did it and repeated that nothing is more important that our trust. He demonstrated he understood the issue.
- Robert Scoble
4. He thanked influencers for helping Dominos understand the issue and making sure that others knew about it.
- Robert Scoble
5. He responded while the issue is still "hot."
- Robert Scoble
6. He responded on YouTube, which is where the crisis started, not on their own video platform.
- Robert Scoble
7. He communicated that there was "immediate" action including arrest warrants, and people getting fired.
- Robert Scoble
Impressive.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
He didn't look straight into the camera, however - as pointed out by Steve Garfield.
- l0ckergn0me
8. He knows that the real problem is that they hired idiots and are "reexamining" all hiring practices. THAT is the best way to make sure you get a good brand.
- Robert Scoble
9. He used personal language "it sickens me." Not marketing speak.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting mix of being apologetic and totally pissed at the same time. Overall thumbs up from me.
- Mike Doeff
10. He is working to "regain our trust."
- Robert Scoble
Is there anything else he could have done to answer this crisis?
- Robert Scoble
He didn't offer us a coupon to make us feel better. I didn't feel condescended to.
- Kevin Fox
Good lead, Robert. Glad to see discussion around the response.
- Valeria Maltoni
Now if he could just work on making the pizza not taste so bad.
- Dave Roth
now is the best time to go to Domino's in Conover. clean as a whistle.
- nesman89
Fantastic job, I thought.
- Matthew Freeman
Ok, so how bout some back ground?
- Matthew DeVries
I don't mind that he didn't look straight into the camera. That shows he isn't "slick" or "overcoached."
- Robert Scoble
Yes, it would have been better if he had looked into the camera, but given that a teleprompter is an expensive item, and rigging a two-way mirror with a magnified view of a printed script is a hassle... I think the minor shortfall can be forgiven. All seven of Robert's points remain absolutely valid.
- David Muir
Matthew: Here's the background: http://beta.friendfeed.com/thomash...
- Robert Scoble
Textbook is the best way to go. Swift and done. Now in time, people will forget, crave cheap, fast, and delivered food, and it's over.
- Mike Lewis
Very well handled. I agree with you, Robert, this will make its way into textbooks alongside Tylenol's response to the poisoning crisis three decades ago.
- Stephen Mack
Matthew: I already posted a link to the background. http://beta.friendfeed.com/thomash...
- Robert Scoble
Or here if you wanna go straight to the source: http://consumerist.com/5210648...
- Stephen Mack
They just taught a lot of clueless PR people how to handle a crisis like this. Well done.
- Inside Alaska
I think theyve been handling this like pros from the getgo. Good job
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Pretty slick. Many can learn from it.
- Katie Dob
The woman is also a registered sex offender apparently: http://ncfindoffender.com/details...
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
so far this year, that's, what, rats in the peanuts, perchlorate in the babby formula, prescription drugs in the drinking water, snot in the pizza... what was safe to ingest again?
- Karim
Bravo, Dominos. Nicely done. Speak up or be spoken for.
- kevin j higgins
But he's using a teleprompter. He's evil.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
tehKenny: I don't think he was. I bet that he was looking at some notes, though. It didn't come across like he was reading. For someone not experienced with a teleprompter you can not use one and not come across like you're reading.
- Robert Scoble
Their response was appropriate and in a timely manner which is key now.
- Christi
Anyone who has ever used a teleprompter realizes how hard it is to use one and how hard it is to look natural doing it. I bet he had someone off to the side of the camera he was talking to who was holding notes up to remind him what to talk.
- Robert Scoble
I wasn't there, obviously, but watching the CEO look off-camera yet speak as if to a person made me think he was looking at a person to stay "real" and "personable" and not canned or offering a performance.
- Bloom Seed
It's just pizza
- Ari Braginsky
Carmen: "W" had a LOT of media training and a team of people to tell him how to do it. I doubt this CEO has had much media training.
- Robert Scoble
rewatching it makes it clear that he's reading notes (his focus starts at top, moves down as recording proceeds). Still, though, comes across as a real person. Not everything needs professional actors, producers, makeup, sets...imperfect may be the new perfect, as far as communicating genuineness.
- Bloom Seed
Comes across as very heart-felt, and almost makes me want to order with them (I'm not sure we have them here in this town)! Shouldn't they have added something like "We'll now be installing cams in all our kitchens streaming direct to Ustream, making us the ONLY food delivery you can trust to not mess your food"? :)
- Philipp Lenssen
Philipp: well, that would certainly be cool but would be way beyond something they could deliver on in two days.
- Robert Scoble
I mean, I'm not a big fan of Dominos, but this helps them establish themselves as giving a crap. Good PR move.
- Mike Nayyar
Great video response straight from the company president. As for watching food getting prepared, the Papa John's locations that I've been to are open and you can basically see them making your pie. Not sure if Domino's has stores like that...
- Doug
Carmen, it's the "polished" vs "timely" tug of war: http://fftogo.com/e...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
solid performance-- came across naturally and believable, blend of professionalism and good ole fashion ass-kicking anger. It was smooth but not overly slick; no suit or tie and shot in store surrounding. Content was solid too, assuring customers everything that could be done was being done. One minor tweak: he doesn't appear to be looking directly at the camera.
- mark ivey
I wonder if they thought about making it a response to "that video" on youtube to get the eyeballs needed to make this count..
- Tom Masiero
Ari - it's more than "just pizza" - it's the livelihood of 125k employees. We are focused here on a textbook response, but this is also a clear demonstration of the power of leverage that SM holds: two idiots can do major damage to the brand, the company, and by ultimately to the employees. Hat's off to Mr. Doyle and his advisers.
- Bill Sanders
good response for sure, way to go
- sean percival
Rewatched it and yes he is reading it. Regardless, I think it was handled pretty appropriately.
- Jay Neff
good job. small nit: next time they need to move the teleprompter (or cue cards) either over or under the camera.
- MikeAmundsen
Video is good if Good Messenger (which Domino's guy IS) But also put the incident on my radar screen, which hitherto I was unaware of.
- JimmyJet
Wasn't aware of the incident but sure feel bad for the independent operator..
- MiaD
The woman in the Wendy's chili fraud case ended up sentenced to 9 years in prison and her husband (who bought the finger off a co-worker who lost it in an industrial accident) got 12 years. http://www.bluemaumau.org/wendys_...
- Kevin Fox
I wish that he was looking at the camera instead of a telepromter. Just sayin.
- Andrew Baron
Andrew: he's not looking at a teleprompter. I bet someone is holding a notepad with an outline on it for him.
- Robert Scoble
I haven't had Domino's in a long time. But, I'm happy to see that they put up this Video response to the malicious destruction of their Brand and business practices.
- rob friedman
good job. that was a classy way to 'avoid the noid.'
- grant fox
Hey Robert, can I use some of your reasons in a blog post in writing up about the Domino's issue?
- Kenneth
Kenneth: yes, feel free!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert!
- Kenneth
"Everyone else is doing it right." Yeah, right. [What are the odds of that?]
- Craig Brownell
I kept hoping he'd actually look into the camera.
- James Miao
I agree with James. I was hoping that he would look at the camera like he's talking to his customers. I get that he needs to make sure he says exactly what needs to to said, but the way he kept looking away from the camera made it seem a little "stiff".
- Kenneth
like when dirk diggler looked into the camera during his documentary. that was powerful stuff.
- grant fox
Kenneth: that's a mistake someone who isn't media trained makes. I actually don't mind that because it makes it less slick.
- Robert Scoble
My guess is that they're multiple cameras and he's looking at the expensive one
- Bwana ☠
Robert: Really? If corporate heads are on camera, they should NOT look at the camera especially if they're not being interviewed? It looks natural not to look at the camera? You're definitely right...I'm not media trained. :) Looks like he was reading off of a script and didn't notice a camera at him.
- Kenneth
Who was he talking to? The sound guy holding the microphone to the right of the camera?
- Diego Barros
Kenneth: the only time you should look at the camera is when you want to speak directly to the viewer. You are right that he should have been speaking directly into the camera. Knowing where to look is part of media training. A good PR team could have helped (IE, one that had worked a lot with video before) but I can't really blame him. I still have trouble figuring this out. When I was on the BBC it was very difficult to look into the camera (it was aplate on the wall).
- Robert Scoble
i just have to say, that by him not looking in the camera, or really doing any of this before it seems adds to his character that he's a regular guy, not some PR trained monkey doing a dance for us.
- rob friedman
I dunno, I think it's more important that the response seem unrehearsed. I'll bet he did it in one take.
- Ken Morley
Well done Robert: not a surprise to see this crew recognizes excellence when they see it. Dominos did virtually everything right on this aspect of its response. having seen a few crises, this example is among the best. blogged it here: http://www.mediadeluge.com/post...
- Christian Anderson
Just to let folks know: the teleprompters I am familiar with allow the newscaster or talking head to look directly at the camera AND read the script. The result is like a HUD (heads-up display) for those familiar with video games or jet fighters.
- David Muir
Right David, but there are all kinds of "teleprompters" some low tech and some higher tech. the point is he was reading. It was okay, he did a great job in one take. It would have been better if he hadnt read it and looked directly at the camera, but because everything else was so well done, the reading gets a pass
- Christian Anderson
Not a fan of their pies, but kudos to Dominoes for the forthright reply and apology for the miscreants who brought this upon them. Hope they rebound well from this.
- JA Castillo
Definitely a canned response but still heartfelt and sincere. Plus we learned its a federal felony to stuff cheese up your nose on camera. Imagine what happens at McDonalds on a daily basis - now that's frightening.
- Chris Sparno
Very lucky that they had a CEO that even was willing to talk for YouTube in the moment; let's not now criticize him for his media training, or none will ever have the guts to do it again.
- Francine Hardaway
Rich: This is deadly serious for him. He's right to take it seriously and I'm sure he genuinely does.
- Michael Krigsman
So the real question is, who feels comfortable enough to order Domino's this weekend?
- Chris Bartow
I do Chris, even more-so now than before. This weekend will be the cleanest in the franchise's history :)
- Bwana ☠
@Karim: "snot in the pizza... what was safe to ingest again?" Years ago, I ordered a pizza (not from Domino's) and was surprised to see a piece of broken glass in it — and this particular glass shard had part of the pizza company logo on it! When I phoned them about it, they replaced the pizza in record time; of course, they asked for the broken glass back, too, so I couldn't keep the evidence.
- Victor Panlilio
Victor *shudder* i think i would have just given up eating pizza after that :-D
- Karim
The comments on You Tube are negative I don't agree with them, what is your opinion abut them? (They say Doyle is not sincere)
- Maurizio Goetz
Rule #0 - Youtube comments have the value of a single molecule of feces
- Bwana ☠
+1 Bwana!!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
His response was right on and pretty smart for doing it via a video. It's sad but we are at the mercy of people that prepare our food. :-( I kind of feel bad for the kids because what they did shows a complete lack of intelligence. It would be nice if they took responsible and apologized in some sort of public forum.
- John McCullough
@John McCullough "we are at the mercy of people that prepare our food" and people who pilot the planes we fly in, treat our municipal drinking water, etc. I daresay we only appreciate them when things go horribly wrong.
- Victor Panlilio
@Chris White "The founder of Domino's supports Right to LIfe and Operation Rescue, which IMO, is worse than putting farts on sandwiches" Really? Watch the video at http://www.abortionno.org/ and see if you can stomach the idea that we dispose of unwanted human beings so cavalierly.
- Victor Panlilio
Victor, your comment as well as John's above you, reminds me of that line in Fight Club: "We do your laundry, cook your food and serve you dinner. We guard you while you sleep. We drive your ambulances..."
- Aaron Kurtz
@Aaron - almost everything we take for granted in "civilized society" depends on the everyday goodwill (and conscientiousness) of anonymous others. I've always thought that we need to become more mindful of the benefits we daily receive from these enablers of our well-being. Count your blessings, etc.
- Victor Panlilio
Victor, I couldn't agree more.
- Aaron Kurtz
We all love to twitter - http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news...
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BARACK Obama does it. Stephen Fry does it. And now more and more people in Basingstoke are doing it.
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"Russian teens have now new fun. They dare trains. This is needed to be done fast, because if one is appearing before the train too long before and machinist could see him and start breaking, so they run on the rails just before the train so he couldn’t start breaking and fell down on the rails, then the train moves above the person at his maximum speed, just a few inches from his head and back. Russian teen girls seem to go for this too." Seems like a kind of bad idea.
- Paul Buchheit
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Death
- Mel Buckpitt
This is just crazy. Are Russians looking to take over the role of Japan as the source of the majority of the world's weird s***t?
- Andy Kruger
This is insane.
- Eric Florenzano
Daily WTF.
- Parth Awasthi
I believe this happens in Chico every year, except it's usually a drunk student who sleeps on the tracks because they are warm...
- Louis Gray
It looks like the most dangerous part is getting onto the tracks late enough that the engineer doesn't see you, but late enough that the train doesn't hit you.
- Gabe
Crazy Russians...
- Roberto Bonini
Never heard of it here in Russia.
- Alex Kapranoff
crazy ivan
- Toby Graham
Take some idiots from lowest percentile of 140+ million population, put a tag "Russians" and here you go - the image of the country is ready. Russian bears and balalaikas, anyone? :) Disclosure: I'm from Russia
- Boris Тylevich
Inventive, but crazy stupid. I still vote for the American that hopped onto the back of bullet trains in Japan and held himself there by the window seals for the entire ride as the craziest though.
- xero
hahaha the craziest thing about this is that the person under the train is a girl! :)
- BigBuckYeah
That looks like one of the most pointless things you could do. Now the train drivers are going to start suffering from emotional trauma in the long run as they start hitting more idiots.
- Richard A.
Ok, let's ask Russians if anyone knows about it ;) I've never heard about that!
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Boris, you are totally right! :)
- BigBuckYeah
Hahaha
- я думаю
A girl? It's an emo boy ;)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
adrenaline junkies with no money.
- stefan
@Sasha: Same thing ;)
- Jemm
Jemm, pretty much :D How's birthday going so far?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
@Sasha: Fine. Great weather etc. Currently consulting at a customer, so normal work so far :S
- Jemm
i think its ok to label it "russian teens". if its a trend in youth culture and it has its origin in russia. i would never asume that all russians do that because of the labeling. media works that way and most media users are used to these fake sterotype news
- Chris Hofmann
According to William Dear's book The Dungeon Master, students at Michigan State were doing this in 1979. (Not all of them. Just a few lunatics.)
- Pat Rice
cool (no one's said it yet)
- minus-one
Well, I suppose its better than shooting and stabbing each other, like Toronto teens do.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I love the "funny things todo" -tag at the bottom :D
- Jemm
: /
- Ideh
Approx quote: I want you all to take a moment to look outside at the beautiful sunrise. Life is a precious gift. I should know. I've taken 8 lives in my 38 years as a train operator. I almost took my 9th today, a passenger on this train. I don't want to be any angrier or sadder. Please be careful. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Bruce Lewis
You need a serious pair of balls to try that. Oh, and kids, don't try this at home.
- Yuval Atzmon
I just can't bring myself to like this. It's suicide.
- April Buchheit
O.O
- Jessie
In Soviet Russia, train rides you.
- Morton Fox
Not like there is a down turn of males in Russia due to overweight, alchohol issues, and doing some dangerous jobs, the new male population is daring trains? Nice.
- Santa CW™
These kids have too much free time. Give them something constructive to do and help them avoid these bad decisions.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I was looking for a new hobby too.
- Peter
Thanks for your comment Bruce. Very sobering.
- Roberto Bonini
I always wondered if there was enough clearance to do that. (I was more wondering: if you fell onto subway tracks, and a train was coming full bore at you, should you flatten yourself on the tracks, or squeeze in next to the tracks, or try your best to climb out, or flatten yourself against the wall, or...)
- ⓞnor
Always wanted to do that. I've noticed, however, that there are train engines in our country which have some very low parts. I'd have to measure myself laying down and try it with a cardboard box of the same height first... it kind of defeats the purpose when you take precautions before doing crazy things.
- Goran Zec
Goran, if you think about it, this stunt is not crazy just plain stupid: like watching a horror movie with eyes and ears closed, defeating the purpose. Real crazy would be if they lay on the track on their backs with the faces towards the the train underbody, eyes open. Just a bunch of kids wanting some rep points but ending up looking, and being EXTREMELY stupid.
- vijay
I don't know, I think it's still pretty intense, even without watching. But yes, it would be more fun to look up. However, it's certainly not fair to the people driving the trains.
- Goran Zec
Also, it probably releases a shitload of adrenaline when you do that and, as such, is a workable replacement for taking drugs.
- Goran Zec
Ugh - I can't like this. Grew up near train tracks, and about every three years or so some idiot tries gets mowed down trying to cross the river by using the RR bridge. There are so many other ways to get an adrenaline rush that don't make someone's job a living hell.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I get my daily train commute "interuppted" about once a year becuase of that :(
- Roberto Bonini
Goran, for the maximum effect you'd probably want to lay down *facing* the train (not like the person in the photo), and look forward. Assuming you had enough clearance to raise your head enough to look forward. Agreed that this is not actually a remotely acceptable thing to do.
- ⓞnor
@e3r: re subway: not sure about your part of world, but here in Soviet Russia (tm), we have a special kinda gutter running between the rails, provided there for such cases specially. Moving to the side of the track puts you in danger of getting in touch with the pin rail and being electrocuted before the train arrives
- onigiri
but... but this is "English Russia"... I mean, it is like The Onion, only they just write "complete nonsense and BS for English-enabled people who had never been to Russia" :) do you take http://www.theonion.com/ seriously? :D
- A.T.
oh, you are looking for real idiots in face of train, right? real ones are not necessarily Russian http://www.flickr.com/groups...
- A.T.
@silpol: :o Next you'll say that http://bbspot.com isn't for real :o
- Jemm
In Soviet Russia, Train Tracks You! /me ducks
- Tyson Key
I actually almost found myself in this position inadvertently once.
- Martha
Holy crap, that's scary!
- Josh Jenkins
OMG whyyyy this is too intense its like if you do it wrong. you die. ewwww
- *Tiffany Diamond*
XXI century Russian roulette game or last train to nowhere.
- Carlos Lorenzo
I've given Russian teen girls some crazy ideas in my time, but this one never occurred to me.
- Anthony Citrano
pretty sure in the background you can see Tyler Durden from "Freight Club," grinning.
- Karim
stupid idea sharing it...
- Rob Sellen :o)
There are a lot of other interesting photos on that site.
- TranceMist
Candidates for the Darwin Award.
- Jimmy Walker
Suicide much?
- Zach Flauaus
I look at this and think it's ideal for ogrish.com, when it goes wrong, silly girls indeed. Such a waste,
- Richard A.
Don't try this.
- Moses Kpetigo
Wow this is one of the most stupid ideas, I've seen.
- Nicholas James
I've seen this gone wrong in real time. One act that should be a joke to a few kids, left a mark on many people who saw it happening.
- Jorg Jansen
One word only. Name one of your weaknesses.
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amnesia
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coffee
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- Outsanity
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- Outsanity
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- Erin McMahon
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Chocolate
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Procrastination
- Chieze Okoye
Thinking.
- Rui Pereira
cuddling, maybe? :P
- mjc
Naming things in one word
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Escapism
- Robert
Spellink
- Robert Hafer
I will name it "Susan"
- Scott Loganbill
Comma use
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presenting
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Tatsumakisenpuukyaku.
- Chieze Okoye
Patience.
- Surferbill
Toolazytocomment
- Gaby K. Slezák
women
- Angga Satria
polls ;-)
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Monkeys
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- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
gadgets
- Brian Timm
Electronics
- David Cook
internet
- Bindu Reddy
Procrastination.
- Joey Gibson
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- Stan Scott
Dolls.
- Anthony Citrano
+5 Anthony.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Capitalization
- Scott Lockhart
Reading
- kamla bhatt
information
- Kevin Fox
Love.
- nakachi
connectivity
- Fa La La La Lindsay
patience
- Steve Lacey
Reliance.
- Louis Gray
suck
- j1m
Procrastination.
- Alexander Kucera
Shy.
- Kol Tregaskes
Piracy.
- bnoise
Distractions
- Mark Krynsky
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- C (dubya)
Sorry Mike ... Saw this Monday ... still workin' on it :)
- Charlie Anzman
Concentra... what was the question?
- Jorg Jansen
Cutest Little Kittens in the World (5 photos) - http://www.mymodernmet.com/profile...
dafire, 士慷, Jemm and 8 other people liked this
Awwwww!!
- Simon Wicks
from Bookmarklet
me want!
- orionstarr
Friendfeed Notifier: Get Real-Time Updates on Your Desktop - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Dee S., Rob Michael (Atmos Trio), Maryam and 18 other people liked this
"Friendfeed, the popular social media aggregator, just released an Adobe Air application that displays real-time updates from your friends right on your desktop. Whenever one of your friends posts a new item or leaves a comment, a message will appear on your desktop. Friendfeed is clearly making real-time updates a core feature of its service, as it already offers real-time updates in its web interface and through IM."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Who has tried this? I'm liking it! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm liking it, except links don't work for me. Only the Like link works. :-/
- Tanath
I have tried it, I always try everything and it's ok a further distraction on my PC, I can read FF even when I'm doing something else. Dangerous.
- M F
I'm liking it too. I can get stiff done AND keep up with FF! :) Chrome's speed works very well with this until they get the commenting feature done.
- vijay
Mine seems fine but some posts are coming up overlapped though. I'd like to see a next/previous button. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah, I was wondering how the several second delay would work with someone like Scoble. It would prolly work best with queue addition w/ next/prev links.
- Tanath
Oops, now the window to the middle of my screen. hehe. A few bugs to iron out methinks. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I think I'll wait a sec on this one, but if you've not tried it, updates via IM work great.
- Mr. Gunn
They should have employed a tester. ;-) Oh I'm free from April btw. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe. It would be cool if you could hover over the window and it pause, plus perhaps in-window comments and likes? Either way, very cool, good job guys!
- Kol Tregaskes
It seemed to have in-bubble likes, though the Like link seems to have disappeared after I liked something...
- Tanath
the pop-up started showing up in the middle of my screen as well. I had to go to Settings, move the window to where I wanted it. Log out, and log in again.
- Alejandro
Ah you're right, yes likes work, didn't seem to first few times I tried.
- Kol Tregaskes
Very cool
- Edwin Khodabakchian
The window is jumping left, right and everything atm. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I've had to turn this off, the window just doesn't want to sit in the bottom right. Ideally I'd like a drag-drop option when where I would it to site on the screen?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, you can move the window where you want in the settings, I think...
- Brad Brooks
OK, that sort of works. It must queue items as it took a minute or so to have the new pop-ups in the new place. This should happen straight-away really.
- Kol Tregaskes
Tanath, the 'Like' link should be there for all entries. Note that for comment notifications (or your own entries) there won't be a Like link.
- Dan Hsiao
Dan, I noticed yesterday that it didn't appear sometimes. Only occassionally was it missing but will keep an eye out on the latest version.
- Kol Tregaskes
Greg Rutters Definitive List of The 99 Things You Should Have Already Experienced On The Internet Unless Youre a Loser or Old or Something - http://youshouldhaveseenthis.com/
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Cool List....I must be a true web geek as seen most of them!
- Cool Stuff
New Twitter movement: unfollow everyone. Discuss why or why not this is a good thing:
Lisa, David, carl morris and 140 other people liked this
@loic started this with a script he had built. He unfollowed everyone yesterday and now only is following 22 people.
- Robert Scoble
@loic told me it feels like he took a bath.
- Robert Scoble
@loic says that having a small number of people he intimately follows lets him build real relationships online again.
- Robert Scoble
i just think people shouldnt take all of this so seriously.
- Terry O'Fee
Is there a way to do this (as in mass deletion option?) Thanks.
- hawk12online
@loic says that if you try to follow thousands of people there's no way to see all the tweets. That is true. If I refresh Twitter.com as fast as I can I can't see all the Tweets coming into my account.
- Robert Scoble
I have been actively unfollowing--not everyone--but anyone that seems not directly relevant or familiar to me on some level. Twitter has become a far richer experience since employing this technique
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Well how will you will you filter than or get to the things you like? A group of people you follow is in my experience one of the best information filters you can have.
- rick
I'm now following just over 100 people anyway
- VIVANO
there is more than one way to do twitter. both the @loic and @scobleizer way are right.
- Peggy Dolane
Oh, I'm sure it's an annoying mess with about 400 items per minute that mean absolutely nothing to you
- Dorian Muthig
Are you gonna unfollow everyone too, Robert?
- Reuben Thum
i have some really good friends i talk to on a regular basis. some i have conversations with. some proper celebrities because i cant help myself. the rest i suss out. if all they can talk about is ff and twitter, i may unfollow myself.
- Terry O'Fee
@loic and I see that there's something new happening. First, search like http://search.twitter.com is totally changing our inbound. Second, using services like friendfeed lets you group and manage large numbers of followers, so you'll still have the inbound, especially as more and more people join both friendfeed and Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
instead of unfollowing, I use FriendFeed to filter/group the tweeters according to their priority for me
- Alexander Benker
I agree Robert- following folks sometimes can be a total waste of time and waste of twitter. Quality over quantity seems to be the new movement of late and I have to agree fro the most part-I am tired of getting spammed and DMed by spam which we all have to delete. But I have always followed quality- and that is why I am responding to your tweet dude.
- DougFirebaugh
Sure when you have the amount of followers that you do and they will just listen it makes sense. But not for the average user of twitter. It's not about just being followed. I think you may have lost touch with the whole thing. You two are in the top 2%. Twitter is a completely different user experience than the other 98%.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
So are we calling this Follower Bankruptcy?
- Mike Doeff
This one of the reasons to have track, so you can follow your real friends and still discover new people
- Christian Burns
Robert, Twitter is a river of 140 char messages. Dive in when you feel like taking a bath. Get out when you had enough. Loic and you should stop whining about the drawbacks after you start following thousands of people ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
let's see robert unfollow everyone in friendfeed too. hah, that'll be the day.
- Terry O'Fee
Reuben: I haven't decided to yet, but @loic sure makes a good case for it.
- Robert Scoble
IMO, it's not a great idea. People will see this as a negative action toward them and unfollow you. If everybody were to unfollow everybody they know, twitter would become a meaningless array of nothingness. "If it ain't broke, don't unfollow it."
- Zerhynn
I have never bought into the mass followers approach and find that I have to find at least 2 or 3 tweets interesting within a page or two, in anybody I would choose to follow. I am interested in connection with people with similar interests and I don't think it makes sense to just build up volume.
- Kirti Vashee
There's certainly a buzz around this, we just talked about it on our podcast tonight. What sucks about unfollowing is losing the news-stream of information you're trying to capture--stuff you may not have notice/found. Maybe Twitter should implement groups, a'la tweetdeck?
- Paul Salzman
Although I do agree that you do not need to follow thousands of people.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
interesting concept - guess that is what I use tweetdeck, friendfeed and socialmedian for to allow me to focus on issues because I carefully selected the people I follow after reviewing their sites I see merit in unfollowing everyone just as I see in using third party apps - it depends on the individuals preferences
- Lionel Spearman
It's both good and bad. For one if your reduce the number of people you follow to a minimalistic amount you can build richer and more vibrant relationships with the select few. The bad however is that your world view is now much smaller than what it would have been. I'm actually thinking about unfollowing a mass of people to get back into a manageable range where I can read all of there tweets and then search for anything else.
- Jimminy Fuller
Why is it a new movement when SM gurus start doing it? I follow those that have similar interest or to learn different point of views. I have no goal to have the most followers or the best twitter grade. Twitter is about the relationships you build. Friends are relationships that I have built over years of trust and loyalty.
- Kyle
I would consider it, but I would have trouble shutting out that many. I am following 1000 and being followed by 1500
- Christian Burns
Having just decided to join the follow you movement I think unfollowing everyone is an unfriendly move, why not make a group for the 22 friends you really want to follow:)
- Suzie Cheel
Then there are some who follow then unfollow and follow again. lol.
- Carolyn Chan
One problem with not following everyone: only people you are following can send you direct messages on Twitter. That's one thing that's keeping me from running @loic's script. @loic points out, though, that most of my DM's are now spam. He's right.
- Robert Scoble
I've been speaking about that for a weeks, and applying it, glad it's finally trickling to the a-listers.
- Richard A.
So the question is, when will FF get DMs?
- Christian Burns
you still have email, robert :P
- Terry O'Fee
Not sure I agree. Even with a small "following" I get real nuggets via DMs. Besides - it is rude to mass unfollow :)
- Rob La Gesse
I kind of wish I could limit my follows to 150
- Christian Burns
I have been thinking about this a lot. Recently I blogged about how opening up my Facebook to everyone who wanted to connect was not really resulting in meaningful relationships. We don't have the time to be engaged with that many people. We can put content out and discuss when they respond, but to actually use the medium in the way I used to when I had just a couple friends on there is no longer possible with so many people. Likewise, with Twitter.
- AV Flox
I won't be sad or hurt if @Scobleizer unfollows me. Frankly, not all my tweets are that relevant to the guy. Just so long as he checks his @replies and answers me every blue moon, that still falls in the category of a good relationship on Twitter. @shelisrael has an unfollow/follow as you go motto described on his blog, it makes sense to me.
- Phillip
It was my script. I'm the new guy at seesmic. I wrote it for loic today. if anyone wants it, I've got it. kick this movement into high stream. If you look at the first person in loic's follow list, its me now :-)
- Zac Bowling
But Robert, I thought you couldn't check your DM's? I remember seeing quite a few tweets from you saying "DON'T DM ME - EMAIL ME INSTEAD" etc.
- Brandon LeBlanc
from twhirl
What a load of BS. Do the math.
- Stephen Grant-Jones
Since I run much smaller number that Loic & Robert, my systematic subtractive technique works--if I had thousands of spamming DM--I would run Loic's script.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Brandon: I tried getting people to not send me DMs. Doesn't work. People were trying to do business with them (and still are). It's probably the single reason why I won't run the script.
- Robert Scoble
I love the spontaneity and surprise of many friends. I would never give it up. I discover things every day that delight me.
- John Kremer
Besides, if I really need to send Scoble a DM I can just call his Cell phone
- Christian Burns
A lot of the conversations that are still happening are interesting but the relationships built are no longer as close as they were when I had only a couple of followers. It's funny that you tweeted about only having 150 followers on Friendfeed and that's more conducive to quality relationships. Isn't 150 the Dunbar number? Loic's movement is worth reflecting on. I've been making use of Tweetdeck again to scale down the groups. It's helped but Loic's solution is seductive.
- AV Flox
This can be very short sighted. A great way to send the message, I don't want your business or money.
- Sylvia Webb
it would almost be a good idea except for one thing - @reply can only be seen by followers. It would be great if this were not the case, and I can see the spam potential if it were, but limiting @reply to followers, if you;re not following anyone, means everyone is in a big room shouting over each other instead of conversing.
- Brian Benz
New craze for newbies to twitter, following a small number of people and filter the rest for useful conversations. Quantity is not quality!
- Carl Plant
People that I follow on Twitter, for the most part, aren't "friends" in any normal sense of the word. Most of them are unaware of my existence. I tend to selectively follow (previewing someone's stream before following) and actively unfollow (usually when I see a page full of "Welcome, @one" and "Welcome, @two" messages).
- Mistletoe Glen
i'm far more suspicious of those following me than i'm concerned about who I follow. I'm always looking to prune my Twitter follows and -- what can I say -- it's hard... lots of people in my twitterfeed tend to add value more often than not!
- Andy Sternberg
Also, does this approach not create a new A-list in a different place?
- Brian Benz
Just goes to prove that Steve Gillmor is always right, eventually you will see it his way :)
- Christian Burns
Do what works for you. If it stops working for you then make a change. I don't think there is any reason for debate here. To each his/her own.
- Katherine Druckman
@Robert it isn't possbile to say to people not to use DM. And if you feel like you should build up such a large crowd you follow or that follow you then accept the consequences. You get value because it lets you be an information hub and provides you overall sex appeal in the tech community. In return you will have to accept that people try to get access to you to get back some of that value for themselves or their products.
- Alexander van Elsas
if it ain't broke. don't fix it. i wouldn't unfollow everyone but i do find myself filtering more. being open and keeping channels 2 way has allowed me to meet some amazing contacts interested in doing business in China. to unfollow people would be to cut off these channels for me. a lot of these contacts are via DM. everyone's got a different way of using twitter.
- Christine Lu
Brian: why? Not sure what you're getting at there.
- Robert Scoble
It's not necessary to see all the tweets. You can use Tweetdeck and other services to make sure you don't miss your favorites. I still love the nuggets I discover -- like this post -- that I would not discover if I stopped following so many people.
- John Kremer
I can make it easy for @loic. Nuke the account and start over following the 22 people.
- Christian Anderson
Am I wrong to say that if you use Twitter search @yourusername you can't see @replies from people NOT following you? I tried it and it seems to work for me.
- Phillip
Christine: it's all broken, it's just that I have gotten used to routing around the fail whales and the stream flowing through Tweetdeck. I "media snack" and just sample from the stream flowing by. It doesn't bother me too much either way. I do find that friendfeed is a far better place and it's great to see more and more people discovering that.
- Robert Scoble
Phillip: bing! Oh, by the way, I'm following everyone on this thread. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Geez, Loic is like the drama queen of the web.
- Orli Yakuel
Christian: actually that's probably what I would do if I was tired of a high-flow account: just start a new account with only a few friends and lock down the followers. Maybe that's the solution for true addicts like me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm unfollowing everyone on twitter and friendfeed who I don't know personally or isn't local. Sorry peeps, Twitter and friendfeed works best like that. Once I get everything clean, feel free to let me know you're still following me and I'll follow back.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Orli: oh, if you can't have some drama what fun is social media? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I have a simple, less radical set of rules: 1) use groups, 2) un-follow anyone who spams you with direct messages and 3) move questions/conversations to friendfeed.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Robert, stay as you are, please.
- Orli Yakuel
Orli: don't worry, I'll always follow you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I too use FriendFeed's and TweetDeck's group functions to prioritize the tweets that comes in from my followees.
- Vinko
52 pages, 1025 people I follow on twitter. Each one was added by me for a reason. No auto-follow. First person ever followed was Jason Calacanis over two years agao.
- Christian Burns
My twitter name is @infoliberation. I find that Twitter is short and sweet and Friendfeed is for a much more robust conversation. I love the marriage of the two. I think Friendfeed is helped greatly by Twitter's jumping off point. What else can you say to that?
- Phillip
damn...right when my followership just started taking off. :-(
- Jason Salas
from IM
I agree with Katherine, to each his own. I've got just a wee 2000 followers, but enjoy popping in to respond to whatever random tweet catches my eye or relevant tweets I've found through saved topic searches. Hey, I even got a new client today - so I'm doing just fine with how things are now.
- Cheryl Allin
please people, let's try for tomorrow for a day on this where we dont talk about twitter or friendfeed. there's other stuff to talk about...
- Terry O'Fee
Robert, come on... this is not what I'm worried about. I think that you really know most of your friends, or for at least trying to communicate with people you don't know. With Twitter you get to know new friends & content based on the same taste/interests - to follow only people you know, is like taking two steps back. (and thanks for following me!)
- Orli Yakuel
Not sure why you would need to unfollow everyone to keep track of what your important people tweet. Just form a group of high-profile folks in TweetDeck and it'll do the same thing, plus you can still follow everyone else for when you want to jump in the stream.
- Cory OBrien
i just unfollowed a couple of folks, it's true, we can live without twitter,facebook and friendfeed. How about for lent we give up facebook, twitter and friendfeed?
- Dh'ennis Dömingö
Robert - Limiting followers = limiting DMs and replies and tweets you can see from others - In Loic's example 22 invitees (followers) that get to have a seat at the table while the rest of us can watch the action passively. TO me this would be as exciting as C-Span. :)
- Brian Benz
I cannot fathom following hundreds of people. I was in the 90s a couple of weeks ago so I pruned my list down to 78. Even that seems high but I couldn't go lower. I'm slow to follow folks, on Twitter & FF, because I'd rather follow a small group of folks I've a genuine connection with than a ton of folks I only have a vague sense about. Some folks tell me I'm doing social media wrong but I think that's silly. For me, social media is all about fun so what need have I of 1000s of followers?
- ♥patricia♥
I think everyone will find their own Twitter preferences. I'm following 606 right now. In a week or two I may clean out some of the driftwood - people who've gone silent or have switched to topics that aren't interesting, but then I'll add some new folks to make up for it. I don't catch every Tweet, but the stream keeps running. So long as it's populated with interesting folk, the Tweets that I do catch are more likely to be interesting as well.
- Heidi Cool
Orli: I've decided that @loic is wrong. But he's also right. Twitter, you see, is really broken for interacting with large numbers of people. Friendfeed is much better.
- Robert Scoble
I think Loic let things get out of control. Robert, considering how many followers you have, you seem to be able to manage your account better than anybody. If your truly are looking for a quality experience, you have to decide what works for you. I always thought it was about quality not quantity:-)
- Michael Fidler
@loic I think its cool that you rebooted who you follow
- Christian Burns
On Pownce I used to try to keep track of all posts (and followed fewer people) but Pownce was more indepth. On Twitter one can glean a lot from just a small percentage of what's there.
- Heidi Cool
Robert, with that I agree: FriendFeed is better for long and real conversations.
- Orli Yakuel
I agree groups in tweetdeck help you filter very well without missing some occasional random tweets. keeping up with your @replies is more critical than every single tweet.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Robert - you should unfollow everyone and see what happens. make sure that script stores everyone you are following in a db in case you want to re-follow after the test.
- Gerard
While I didn't unfollow everyone, I cut out a lot of who I was following. Might be rude, but it's not meant to be that way. i no longer have the time to follow so many people.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Gerard: it would cause too many messages to fly around. People get their feelings hurt if someone unfollows them.
- Robert Scoble
If I unfollow people, then I'd be digitally talking to myself. I can do that IRL
- Outsanity
My feelings wouldn't be hurt - I'd doubt if I'd even realize it - that's not what I'm using Twitter for - just silly to me.
- Cheryl Allin
Outsanity: that's not true. Who you are following is your inbound. You can get inbound other places, like http://search.twitter.com or http://www.twittervision.com
- Robert Scoble
Twitter is what you want it to be. That's one of the fascinating things. My own view of it has changed a dozen times since I started. Everyone has their own philosophy about how to use it, and they are all valid. As for me, I'm simply not going to follow anybody who doesn't follow me, and I will follow anybody (as long as they are real) I just unfollowed loic. The World is flat. Will I miss out? Perhaps, but if I want to know what the 'important' people are thinking I can just go to their sites.
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: You're currently "following" 69,188 people on Twitter. If one of those people has their feelings hurt because you unfollow them and they no longer have 1/70,000th of your attention, they have a screw loose.
- Ken Sheppardson
Twhirl gives you inbound with saved searches, each search a tab stream. I love it. Create a saved search for keyword 'RT' and see what's hot or a saved search like 'chrisbrogan' and follow him and all who @ him.
- Cheryl Allin
I say bite the bullet, clear things out, add some searches in Tweetdeck or one of the "track" services, and follow people manually as your real relationships warrant. You can alway run a script to just follow everybody later if you miss the noise.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: I unfollowed according to three criteria 1. Does the person follow more than a thousand 2. Does the person respond 3. does the person tweet links and RT rather than content, the fourth is whether you're unlucky enough to tweet when I'm in unfollow mode. Result: A more social timeline.
- Richard A.
Sounds like Loic needs to fix Twhirl to manage his followers better. He doesn't have to pay attention to every single one, but he does need a way to build relationships with those he wants to. Twhirl is horrible at this.
- Jesse Stay
@Richard Azia: I couldn't have agreed with you more on your criteria.
- Reuben Thum
@Jesse Stay, I use twhirl and it's fine for what I do, but that's because I culled my follow list removing all those that aren't active conversationalists.
- Richard A.
Reuben, My timeline is far more fun now as a result :-). Took a few experiments to find the right method though.
- Richard A.
@Richard Azia: I did the same thing like you did, too. Instead of auto following people blindly, I use an auto follow app, but manually unfollow spammers and users based on similar criteria you've mentioned.
- Reuben Thum
At a certain point if you had autofollow on you have no choice but to start over because a) you can follow the number of tweets and b) you will stress the Twitter servers out.
- Jason Calacanis
Reuben. I don't use auto follow, For me to follow someone new I want to see how converstional they are first. That's when I might consider them on twitter.
- Richard A.
Robert: Is this the flip side of what Jason and Michael were taking you to task on a few weeks back on GG? Is it time to do more meaningful *listening*?
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: I 'think' I was the first person with over 20k followers to do this. Though in my case, I totally reset my account - zero following / zero followers. http://jimsmarketingblog.com/2009... it has been a universally great experience to me and massively increased the value of Twitter to me.
- Jim Connolly
Ken: yes, I think this has a big part to do with addiction too. You keep trying to follow more and more until you snap.
- Robert Scoble
An interesting idea, as I have found I have followers but a very select few who actually respond regularly, I wonder if it is matter of depersonalization, losing what it once represented as a means to an end. Certainly it could be a good idea, but many of those who I have found were those who had spoke on something of interest in the wide swath of sea that is twitter. So I will consider it, but am not sure if there will be follow through anytime soon. Though I guess it would depend also on how effective.
- Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
As someone has probably already pointed out in a more eloquent fashion, Loic's company makes a Twitter client. Surely he should build tools into that client to make the overload problem more manageable and certainly not try to set a trend of "hey it's cool to unfollow lots of people now". That sort of sends the wrong message to people about your company and it's thinking.
- Pete Gilbert
I don’t see how this is even an idea to be considered. If we unfollow everybody and everybody else unfollows the rest, then Twitter will become a very lonely place. Boring place with no use what so ever… I strongly disagree with this.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
agreed @peter, it's nonsense, companywise, to promote that kind of message when you try to spread your twitter tool.Anyway, I think it's more a trend problem, the 2009 fashion is to unfollow everyone and @loic cannot do unfashioned thing because this is how he builds his reputation and his company notoriety.Dommage...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
There is no point being on twitter if your purpose is to broadcast. For broadcasting blogs and other platforms are more interesting. If you take dialogue away from twitter you undermine the most active members of the community because they will feel people are using the site too passively. Why do you think social networks fail, lack of involvment. At least by reducing the number of people you follow you increase engagement on a per person basis. It becomes personal once more.
- Richard A.
It's beginning to feel like the @1938media technique--in reverse--sans personality shift. Loic will now certainly be the topic of many blog posts in the next day or two.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Spyros: totally wrong. We'd still be here at friendfeed and http://search.twitter.com would still show us other people.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert and what is the criteria to detect people in such a huge stream? Come on, this is a network thing: you follow someone because someone else you share interest with has followed him, much more than picking up in twitter "all" stream...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
Jean: I am very adept at scrolling through a huge list of names and telling you something about most of them. Friendfeed is where I spend most of my time, though.
- Robert Scoble
GREAT idea Loic, way to prove your software really can't handle the numbers. This is a weird move from a very smart man.
- Jim Connolly
Understand, Robert, but I think that setting up filters (like you did) is a better way than unfollowing people, which seems to be a "2009 trend" with no real reason, even more when you promote a twitter tool.You barely say "my tool suck, so I can't do anything but unfollow you'.Bad move, IMO.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
I think Loic displayed a certain degree of immaturity in handling twitter as a tool. It is as overdone to follow everyone as it is to unfollow radically. Inspired by the debate, I felt a bit like Moses today ( ;-) ), and subsequently assembled bloggi's Ten Commandments of Twitter: http://bit.ly/ten-commandments
- Mark Jacobs
Jean: agreed. I like friendfeed as an answer a lot more. Just open up a list and put the people you want to really follow in there and keep everyone else out.
- Robert Scoble
If everybody unfollows everybody else then there is no twitter
- Mark Fletcher
@yann I'm also french and I don't understand too.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
As Twitter's user numbers have INCREASED it's usability (to me) has DECREASED. Is it just me?
- Jim Connolly
I can understand Loic's reasons, but I don't agree with it. I don't personally know 95% of the people I follow on twitter. It is however neither relevant nor important for that to be a pre-requisite to starting an interesting conversation. I don't auto follow people and i only pay attention to whoever I want to irrespective of the number of people i am subscribed to. Moreover, a large number of people have occasional sparks of interestingness. So if one can learn to ignore; the more the better.
- Parth Awasthi
@Jim_Connolly It is the old law of decreasing returns when new media trivialize. But usually, I am pretty untouched by it since (having been around since February 2007 in twitter) I only follow some 350 people to this day. So I get a good result from my circle of followees. Also, I try to give by helping out new twitter users who have questions.
- Mark Jacobs
@Scoble have you unfollowed everyone?
- Waldemar Schott
@Parth_Awasthi I think, lioc created a big mess by first auto following, and now seeing no other way out than to unfollow. Somehow, it makes me giggle a bit :-)
- Mark Jacobs
You guys have way too much free time on your hands with this nonsense.
- Wayne Schulz
Too much drama. It's funny how many social networks bemoan lack of users and with Twitter, the opposite problem is the subject of complaints - "there's too many bots and DMs! oh my!" Bleh.
- Eric Gonzalez
I really don't share opinion about Loic putting this on a personal way. This is a strategy mistake (company-wise), a trend mistake (2009-ish fashion)...But not a big head problem. Loic had thousands reasons to have a huge head issue before and did not, so I don't see why it would be the case now
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
Robert Scoble: What about the people that are using only Twitter? What about the ones that don't use FriendFeed? Ok, we might be crazy having many many accounts on most of all social platforms, but other only use one or two. By unfollowing everyone, there is no Twitter as Mark Fletcher said.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
I'd agree with someone earlier Loic wants to keep his followers but follow less bet he wouldn't have started that policy at the beginning otherwise he would have a few k followers at most! If he had real balls then he would delete his account like @jimconnolly did and start fresh but he wont as he still wants to 'use' the big following he has, talk about one way!
- roger byrne
don't have to start unfollowing anyone as i didn't start following everyone in the first place.. never really understood the auto-following of twitterers i started following.. you've got twittersearch to find people with common interests..
- Johannan Edelman
@scobleizer @loic So much as issues matter, people also matter. Unfollowing people because there is an alternative way to search for issues or interests is limiting the scope to generate them in the first place. Following more people signals belongingness and interests or issues heard. On the other hand, small followings signals selfishness and is the same as 'greed is good'.
- Moses Kpetigo
Interesting: so would @loic also encourage all his followers to stop following him? so he could stick with his few twitter fellows? If I remember, he was the one all about numbers and authority. It seems like, once you've reached enough, you're safe ppl will follow you no matter what, you have good "authority" and then you can unfollow all the mass and become a Twitter snob? It sounds too much like a strategy to me. In which he succeed, no doubt. Will he lose credibility? I wonder.
- May
I like Robert's snack analogy: I consider Twitter as a news source roughly tuned to my general interests via who I decided to follow. In this respect I could follow lots of people, since it makes sure that each time I go to Twitter, I will find something interesting to me. I know I won't be able to read everything, but I don't care, it's just like in a book store I know I can't read all the books, but I like to sample in the sci-fi shelves
- Antoine Bertier
@loic is becoming way too elitist lately. i didn't hear him complaining when he was following thousands of people to promote seesmic!
- Alensa
@antoine Exactly right imho most have never claimed and quite the opposite actually specified they don't/can't read every tweet but when they are on they are on and dip into the party! Loics party just got real small! ;)
- roger byrne
while search.twitter.com is useful, twitter puts you on the front of the wave not searching to catch up afterwards
- Mark Parssey
There are Wars currently on this planet, half of people dont have anything to eat, drink, there is a global economic crisis, but all that is bullshit compare to Twitter... Right? GrRRRrRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Didier Lahely
All in all, Twitter and FriendFeed are really nothing more than a Yahoo chatroom. Way too much noise and too many people that need to get over themselves.
- Charles Baldwin
i constantly wonder how you keep up with sooooo many followers. doesn't it drive you nuts????
- Francisco Kemeny
My twitterverse contains people I pay attention to, people that I have so I can search and some that I just follow for a moment and then remove.
- Josef Finsel
from twhirl
Human attention spans (and time) are limited. Twitter and IMing are a large 'experiment' , still a work in progress--the jury is out!
- JimmyJet
If you have so many followers that you have to unfollow because you didn't follow based on what the people were saying, but instead followed to up your "network", then Twitter probably isn't the venue for you. Check out MySpace and do that...
- Nicki Laycoax
*yawn* what's new here? nothing. @fidlr and others started the twexpire type experiments (look up the script if you care) long ago; not loic or scoble. i specified the #egosphere vs. #cognosphere usage scenarios long ago. @JimmyJet and @DidierLahely sum it up well. In another sense, all of this is IRC and Usenet for dummies.
- michael silverton
it's a good exercise to see how much you really miss the tweets of those you unfollow. And also see how many of them will remain followers after you unfollow.
- Mihai Secasiu
I'd argue that having 23k followers is 'doing it wrong' & you should unfollow and start over. I follow 329 right now and the signal-to-noise ratio is manageable. It's a mix of people I know intimately, casually and professionally, and that's where I have the conversations and relationship-building. Next is a handful of news and interesting/high # of followers people. Then, a few individuals with similar numbers as me I found interesting, which has allowed for Twitter-specific relationship-building.
- Laura Hall
I agree with @Johannan Edelman I have never used the autofollow function and have felt those I do follow provide value to me.
- Jill Howard Allen
As an additional note, if I were to increase my activity and wanted to manage those relationships, I'd start doing filtered lists.
- Laura Hall
Groups/filteting seems to be a more sensible and positive sltuion to the "too many followers" problem. eh.
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
It's nice that people find what works for them, but there is no "doin' it wrong" There is only "doin it with clue" or "doin it clueless" ... if one doesn't know WHY one is doin' it, no life coach, guru, or A-lister can help. Form your own experiments and execute them. You need no approval or permission from any seeming authority figure. Look up #cognosophere and #egosophere if you care. P.S. PeopleBrowsr breaks ALL these assumptions; it's a completely new kind of literacy beyond Twitter and Friendfeed.
- michael silverton
I guess I just like to see what people are up to. Isn't that what it was all about before the marketing types took over? Now it's about "getting value" and "managing relationships". I joined so I could tell people what I was having for lunch.
- Shawn Farner
I like being in your Twitter stream, I like the idea that thought leaders and influential people like yourself occasionally get to read my updates. You know, once in a blue moon I come up with a great idea, and it's cool to know that in turn this might just inspire Scoble, or Fry for that matter, too.
- Terje Fjelde
On the other hand I hate reading about strangers "spending the entire day in bed" or "being bored," so I only follow people who add quality updates on my own account
- Terje Fjelde
the main issue comes from the fact Twitter does not help users follow and decide efficiently on new followers. Robert if you are interested we have created a new service called Topify.com. if you are interested i ll drop you an invite
- Ouriel Ohayon
Twitter has provide me a way to build a network of people and experts very quickly in fields where I previously did not have contacts or experience. To blanket unfollow would be like cutting my nose off in spite of my face.
- Stephen Terlizzi
How will this help...what will it do?
- John Flynn
ouriel: sure, send it to scobleizer@gmail.com
- Robert Scoble
robert: you ll get it in a few days, just after we migrated servers. i am sure you ll love it :)
- Ouriel Ohayon
That's not new. Loic didn't start a trend. I've only bee using these services since May and I've done it on several occasions and not just on Twitter. Several people have.
- Admiral Anika
I did that for a while on my first (now private/personal) account, and found myself going to 5-6 follower's Twitter pages to read the news (ala RSS reader days) a couple of times a day. Now that I have a public account, I creeped up to 75-100 again but am consciously rotating folks in and out of my "Top 50." My Twitterstream is like a living, breathing being, I guess! But by intensely following different people at different times, I learn something new and can move on. It's quality, not quantity.
- Carolyn
Robert - the idea of reducing who you actively follow and relying more on search notifications is the premise of this post: "2009 Prediction: As Social Connections Reduce, Keyword Tracking Increases" http://bit.ly/hfQq
- Hutch Carpenter
My .02 I do wish twitter had an "inbox" feature so I could divide up those I follow into categories and then read tweets as I like. I know tweetdeck does this but I don't like having to rely on two pieces of software to make it work. Feeding people into my rss reader would take forever. The FriendFeed model of being able to categorize people as you friend them is perfect. Then you can check up on a particular category of people anytime you like. (i.e. politicians, Social Media nuts, writers, etc)
- Sid Burgess
I think a lot of the "unfollowing" noise is reaction to those who are gaming their follower counts on Twitter. It's upset the numerical dominance of the traditional A-listers, who were already stinging from the arrival of *real* celebrities to the service. So now there's a swing back to exclusivity. I'm not sure Loic is wrong, though: I'm planning on significantly downsizing who I follow on FriendFeed. This format seems more suitable for conversation. Twitter is fine for a big, noisy stream.
- Chris Baskind
Chris: on friendfeed just stick the people you want to rarely follow into a list, or do what I did: put the people you REALLY want to follow into a list and read that everyday. That way you'll still have the massive inflows somewhere else when you want those too.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: there is something to that, by the way. But you've only touched the surface of the breakage that happened the past month. Go deeper there and you will find the truth.
- Robert Scoble
Chris - Lists have answered this quandary for me. The bacon memes are fun, but I didn't want them filling up my main feed. And during the day, I have a professional need to focus on the world of e2.0. Lists really do serve the purpose Loic set out to accomplish.
- Hutch Carpenter
unfollow everyone on twitter, FB and every other social network. UK scientists sez that these SN sites actually rewires the nueural network within the brain and thereby making an individual more selfish and self centered. Thus cause pyschological damage to themselves.. :(- (p.s Link will follow- I just heard it this AM on FM while communting to work !!)
- Peter Dawson
You have to be damn special for me to follow you, without you following me, and I try to only follow people with a near 1:1 ratio. There are of course, exception. Sarah Crisman unfollowed me one day, I never found out why, but I didn't drop her cause I like her content.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert: I know that's an oversimplification. There are a number of factors upsetting the apple cart on Twitter, and not all of them are petty or nefarious.
- Chris Baskind
Chris: even the petty ones are deeper if you dig beyond the ego damage.
- Robert Scoble
Bad thing, and if you do it, you will confirm that you A-listers only exploited social media as your broadcasting tool for your own political agenda and not as a true conversation.
- Prokofy Neva
I got over the ego damage quickly cause # of followers never did matter. But what remains? Twitter has harmed its community. This is an easy mistake to make and it's one that comes out of @ev and @biz's arrogance. They rarely use their own tools, by the way. Look at @ev's account and tell me he's really a great Twitterer that talks with tons of people. He does not.
- Robert Scoble
What's even funnier is that the guy who actually came up with the idea for Twitter, @noah, is not one of the suggested followers while other people on the team are. I should write a book about how funny this all is.
- Robert Scoble
@loic seems to have quit over inane DM spam thanking for following, etc. Is there no way to stop automated use of the tools?
- Prokofy Neva
Prokofy: that's not really a good reason to follow everyone. But there are plenty of other good reasons, so I keep doing it. @Ryo you're off the rails. Get back on track. You're close to the track, but not on it.
- Robert Scoble
BS meme! the unfollowers just want to blast their mouths off and not listen to what others have to say
- DC Crowley
Prokofy: no. Twitter's DM feature really sucks. It always has. I just use it because everyone else wants to.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter's DM is a reinvention of a wheel named EMAILS.
- directeur
directeur: only done in the most lame way possible.
- Robert Scoble
Much like the FF comment system is a reinvention of vBulletin/phpBB, done in the most lame way possible.
- Ken Sheppardson
Lame? I like it.
- coldbrew
Prokofy: That is the same argument that went on for a few weeks back in November here on FF. @loic decided that unfollowing everyone was a better solution that to simply utilize the tools at hand to filter and refine his firehose. Instead of unfollowing everyone @loic could have taken these treasured 25 or whatever and put them in a tweatdeck group that brings only their DM's to him, with all the other DM's going ignored. DM's are NOT like email, there isn't an expectation of reply when you send a DM
- Matthew DeVries
Everything is a reinvention of Usenet or E-mail, or N. Just like everything on the Internet is a repost of a repost.
- Sam Levine
Let's play this out...if everyone unfollowed a significant % of those whom they don't care about...then it would INCREASE the ability to communicate with those they do care about without all the noise. I'm sure we would all agree this is a good thing. However, if we were to unfollow EVERYONE...are we little more than individual broadcasters that never allow for a two way dialogue? This would dramatically change the landscape of Twitter because a profound hierarchy would emerge: "follows" and "follow-nots"
- Drew Sams
Drew, I've been writing about that topic for a while now, but especially in recent weeks with the influx of new twitter users who don't attempt to converse yet.
- Richard A.
Don't you think it has incremental feature improvements each time though, Levine?
- coldbrew
Depending on how you use FF, it is much like IRC combined w/ Usenet
- coldbrew
Richard: most new twitter accounts I'm seeing lately are bots. Not real users and provably so. Real users display random behavior. The new accounts do not. Humans are never consistent.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe they had a falling out and Noah is no longer welcome?
- Tony C
Richard, thanks for sharing...this has been a topic I'm really interested in. I'll head over to your blog and check out what you've written. Cheers!
- Drew Sams
One way in which the FF comment system is lame: comments on Scoble threads move so fast that in the time I've typed this, there will probably be five other new comments. Yet FF will chose to hide some of them and instead say "20x more comments". When I click on that, the thread expands into 5+ pages of comments, and I have to scroll down and try to remember what I saw last. Lack of read/unread status and/or visible (non-mouseover) timestamps are pretty significant time sinks/inefficiencies.
- Ken Sheppardson
Enough off-topic. I think this is ironic on a number of levels:
- coldbrew
A way to think about Loic. There are a lot of gamers who follow huge numbers, then unfollow massively to look A-List. Loic is A-List. But even so, ask yourself what *you've* gotten from Loic. If you can't answer that question, your unfollow decision should be clear.
- Hutch Carpenter
Drew: That's like saying in 1890 to communicate better with your friends/family, you need to erase the rest of the country so the mail man can find your people easier/faster. There are tools to filter and refine your communication with Twitter and Friendfeed. It is wrong to choose the nuclear option instead of just using the tools to organize their communication streams, as these platforms evolve they're going to regret casting people out and then have to be in a position to regather them again.
- Matthew DeVries
Ken: The datastream is there, write an app to create what you want.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: Workin' on it :-) Coldbrew: Who appointed you guy who gets to decide what's off-/on-topic? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Sheppardson, not sure. Just using the convention of looking at the post title. Do you have another metric by which to judge objectively?\
- coldbrew
There's the 1st piece of irony, DeVries, " There are tools to filter and refine your communication with Twitter and Friendfeed." Le Meur's company, Seesmic, makes one of them, but it can't do its job ;-)
- coldbrew
coldbrew: I'd explain, but that'd be off topic :-P
- Ken Sheppardson
2nd piece of irony comes from the fact that Scoble is disseminating it, but he seems to be keeping a very objective stance, neither agreeing nor disagreeing with Le Meur's justifications for his actions.
- coldbrew
Scoble, of course, is "well known" for following so many people all over the ecoshpere [edit: and that is ironic to me]
- coldbrew
Coldbrew: Like a black fly in your chardonnay?
- Matthew DeVries
I find the trend puzzling especially (as @Jim Connolly pointed out) when it's someone like Loic who actually built a tool to help bring method to this madness. Robert, you make it seem so easy and I am in awe as to how you manage to respond to thousands of your followers, both here and on Twitter. It's obvious that not everyone can do it, it's probably getting overwhelming for some.
- MiaD
Matthew: TOTALLY agree with you. I probably wasn't the clearest in my comment above. While I choose to unfollow bots and spammers, I prefer to use tools like Tweetdeck and others to filter conversations. The second half of my comment is what I think will happen if we go the nuclear route: Social media will just become a marketplace where ideas are broadcasted but never sharpened through the dialogue process...I don't want another place where ideas and products are hawked at me without my ability to dialogue
- Drew Sams
Well played, Sheppardson.
- coldbrew
Anyway, promiscuity in public isn't good?
- coldbrew
Unfollowing enmasse isn't good business. GKawasaki "gets" Twitter. @Loic either doesn't get it or doesn't know what 2 do with it. I unfollowed him back.
- Now Voyager
first the morons were all bout braggin bout how many followers they had, now they realize "oh shit, I can't figure out who said what and when" so now they get to un-follow & that is news. Give me a fucking break, follow or don't follow for the right reasons.In reality at the most people can have 300 odd relationships with people and sustain it beyond that it is just Hello and good bye and that's about it.
- Baba
"I unfollowed him back" Oh did ya' now?
- coldbrew
This is like watching a movie about a young passionate teen as he slogs his way the the world, making mistakes, and learning right before your eyes.
- coldbrew
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Unfollowing is always an option, but why do it without criteria???
- Jorge Martins Rosa
I could clean up a little, but I like following several hundred. I started in 2006 by following the broadcasters and some of the people that followed them and that they followed. I've slowly increased the number I follow since then. Some days I add about a dozen and unfollow about eight. I like to slowly see what people are saying, participate a little and really meet people. I can manage following hundreds.
- Bill
this is you invite people in you're house and studently you kick everybody out without reasons, i remenber when L L M always ask to be followed on twitter . anyway i also kick out from every where and delete my seemsic account .................... some french people when they become famous they got big head
- Yann
from twhirl
Not sure I agree with @loic but have been thinking the same. The relity is you can only carry relevant conversations with a limited number of people.
- RicardoSilva
I think you should do it. Just look at that number. 69,394. It does no good to follow that many people. Wipe the slate clean.
- techky
I really think Twitter should have group and thread (at least one level)
- Jeremy Chone
I found the original mail on the twitter-dev list:So I have kind of weird request. My boss, who is following 24,386 people (and has 22,752 followers) came to me and wanted me to hack something to wipe out all the people he follows so he can start clean again for various reasons. I'm curious if there is any tools internally at twitter that could help with this maybe because this seems to...
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- Daniel W. Crompton
It's insanely easy to "follow" lots of people. With groups and search in Tweetdeck (sorry @loic) and filters plus tag-focusing services like Twitterfall, I can now focus attention on a "slice" (i.e., a window pane or dialog box). It is very rare that I look at an unfiltered stream. I am almost always looking at a refined view of the entire stream. It kind of reminds me of the Matrix. The "operators" were able to see small nuances in the unadulterated feed.
- Lorin Olsen
Nevertheless, I am intrigued by reducing the number of people I follow. I want to have "intimate" conversations and not just blast tones into an echo chamber. In fairness, that is one of the reasons I am doing more in Friendfeed.
- Lorin Olsen
I think it may be good if people with large followings and who follow a lot of people had two Twitter accounts. One for broadcasting and having the ability to DM many people in your network and the second one solely for listening to quality and engaging with your core network. Doing this may solve the problems referred to above.
- Bill Romanos
@Hutch is quite correct in saying "ask yourself what *you've* gotten from Loic. If you can't answer that question, your unfollow decision should be clear." Exactly!! that should be the criteria for everyone, A-list or not. I've unfollowed some "A-listers" who are focused on things which don't tickle my fancy. Nothing personal of course, the goal is to get focused.
- Eric Gonzalez
By the way, I don't mind an unfollow, but what's up with the "tell me why I should follow you back?" business. Doesn't that seem odd?
- Eric Gonzalez
what is this twitter of which you speak?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike, I assume you are not following anybody so you don't need not to take any action. The proposed procedures only concern people who follow somebody else on this thing called Twitter. :-)
- Tapio Kulmala
is there an auto unfollow ?
- Antoine Bertier
Antoine, No. There was once a rumor that they have tested auto-unfollow in their lab. The performance testing results were alarming. They noticed that they should get rid of 90% of their servers in 2 weeks. The CFO decided that they could not afford that kind of capital losses.
- Tapio Kulmala
I just went through my follows on Twitter and removed a bunch of people I'd never heard of before. I forgot I had signed up with socialtoo.com when Scoble mentioned it and it's all turned off now anyway. We'll see later if my own followers suddenly will now go away cause they're using the same type of tools.
- Paul Wade
People feel slighted when unfollowed - decidedly unsocial. And with tools like Tweetdeck and peoplebrowsr allowing you to create groups (i.e. 'core people', or 'people I know' etc), there's no reason why you can't continue to follow loads of people and focus in on the ones who matter to you. It's social to follow back, and helps build relationships, but that doesn't mean you can't focus on the people who matter to you - there are tools.
- Tom Beardshaw
I even had someone I'd met (and we'd made friends on Facebook) unfollow me then add me to a "<name>monitor" twitter account, saying "this is the account I use to keep track of a wider network" - which pretty much tells you they're not paying any attention to you at all. I promptly unfollowed him. Social is multidirectional relationships - I don't like one way relationships - they're bad for your health! I follow everyone who follows me unless they're trying to sell me something
- Tom Beardshaw
So that's what happened--Loic unfollowed and then refollowed me.;-) Someone constantly keeps doing that on my FB acct., too. I must say, the more followers I get lately who are trying to tell me about how to use social media and internet marketing to get rich, the more this option sounds good. Way too many spammers lately, or just folks who aren't bothering to find out about who you really are and how to have a conversation. Ugh.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Loic method may have been extreme, but I understand where it is coming from, at a certain number, its hard to follow who you are interested in and maybe starting over again is the way to go.. I actually created a second twitter account just for companies and organizations, because I was noticing they were taking over my original account.
- Kim Landwehr
Well - Loic simply has one big problem: He doesn´t use Tweetdeck and the Group feature! LOL
- Dieter Schwarz
Signal vs noise.
- Steve Rubel
OMG huston we have a problum
- Victor
I've already noticed a drop in my followers number. Doesn't matter to me though.
- Paul Wade
Drop in follower, but any increase in participation. That's why I unfollowed so many.
- Richard A.
Looked at who I was following and came to the conclusion most of the people I was following were unneeded, whether due to lack of interesting content or inactivity. Been unfollowing people for the last few weeks. Trying to keep it around 200
- BCK
With tools such as TweetDeck I can setup groups and searches for those tweets I care about the most. Makes number of following irrelevant.
- Robert J Taylor
I give me a chance. follow them for bit see if there interact post anything of value reply to my tweets . If not its just pointless.
- John Cusick
That may work for the twitter elite, but for users like me, it defeats the point of twitter, which is to build community by networking.
- Kelly
My comment is ...I have no comment :))
- SRivera
I semi regularly prune for my following list for relevance (for multiple values of relevance)
- Alec Clews
Terrible idea unless you want to experience true hermit status through the rate of being unfollowed prior to deleting your account.
- Roney Smith
I have always kept a limited number of people I follow. The noise level has been very manageable. T is only one of the conduits for info.
- Dave Ploch
thats retarded
- tommy payne
from twhirl
Like Dave, I'm careful about who I follow in the first place, and I've only had to unfollow a couple of people who got out of hand.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
I'm a careful user, and this realm showed me how people can react rapidly to certain things. I've been unfollowed more than I did unfollow. Note that I'm a curious type of guy and love discovering things in everyone. I think that can be a good thing for those whose critical to the point of stopping everything second to witness being too much analyzing those to unfollow. Else, why be that critical to the point of massive cleaning? Is digital managing difficult and tiring for some? Reminds me: GReader refresh
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
I got 0 value out of following @loic, so I lost nothing. I also unfollowed.
- Mike Lewis
I can do the same thing via a Favorite list in FriendFeed.
- Bill Bittner
my god the annoying post that never ends!! :P hahah
- Terry O'Fee
Time, there is not enough time to follow everyone. It has to be narrowed at some point to still be productive in your business. I do not mind visiting a stream and subscribing..just like I do not mind unsubscribing. Just doing a total following everyone or not following anyone is absurd.
- Brian McClure
At the moment this post has close to 400 likes plus comments. Which provokes the thought: rank Friendfeed posts by likes plus comments (for the total life of Friendfeed). Might be interesting.
- Sean McBride
I deleted 700+ people just two weeks ago and it was the most FUN I have had on Twitter in 6 months.
- Daniel Zarick
[∞][twitter needs to make an second time line to US [...] so, we got one to friends and other to network ][ I have 2 accounts to do this]
- dbalieiro
Similar to the concept of declaring e-mail bankruptcy.
- David Pappas
Then it becomes a broadcast, not an exchange. How about unfollow everyone that doesn't add value to your life.
- Martha
Wow, that is interesting timing. Is it spring cleaning time for everyone or what?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
At least once a week I go through several pages of twitter stream and take a look at everyone on it. I end up unfollowing at least five or six people. I still have hundreds, but it's much less than I would otherwise.
- Sandra Fernandez
as for me, good reasons for unfollowing are ppl following you then unfollowing you immediately, or people not posting in ages, or people where after a while you see having absolutely no exchange on any subject or no common interest. I try to keep my following list clear under these criteria to avoid a bloated following list
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
i prune my list every few weeks and add and delete, keeps it fresher
- susan mernit
I only follow a few people anyway. The "follow everyone you don't know" thing always seemed crazy to me.
- TranceMist
I have no plans of unfollowing any of the people I follow. My setup fits my marketing strategy just fine.. Don't need to jump on the bandwagon. That's the beauty of twitter... do what works for you!!
- Jim Turner
The best tool I've found for getting the most out of twitter is Tweetdeck. Set up groups to stay on top of the conversations generated by the folks you're the closest to.
- Jim Turner
I do a combination of things. I've always been selective about who I follow; if anyone gets to noisy I unfollow them; I filter it through my FriendFeed; I have specific lists set-up in Friend-Feed (even one for "chatter"); I grab the rss feeds for the Friend-Feed lists I want to focus on and have those directly imported into the RSS feed section of my email client (Thunderbird at the moment.) My email feeds have folders and message filtering rules set-up to move everything to the appropriate sub-folders.
- Gail Guy
... I can then quickly identify and scan my favorites, but best of all, I can use my email client functions to "tag" a message a certain color or "star" it as a favorite -- making it easy to find and review at a later time.
- Gail Guy
I think this is brilliant. Curbs the spammers, takes away some incentive from the fakes and keeps Twitter honest. More of my thoughts http://tr.im/gMZ8
- Chris Leonard
As soon as I got Tweetdeck I started following by subject instead of by the person.
- Carl Pruitt
An Easy to Understand Chart of the Financial Collapse (PIC) - http://dshort.com/charts...
Alex, Nilesh, Surferbill and 4 other people liked this
The iPhone app organizer I would love to see - http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2009...
tomit, Rob Haas, Johannes W. and 10 other people liked this
Oh for the love of god, yes. My iPhone is barely usable because every time I restore from a backup it dumps all my apps in there, and doesn't even care what screens they're on. They could even let you rate your apps and then sort by rating. Insertion sorts are a pain in the ass with a touchscreen across multiple virtual screens.
- Kevin Fox
I was expecting there to be something just like this when I first got my iPhone (just a few months ago), and I was kinda shocked that it wasn't there.
- Jasmin Patry
Oh how I wish this was real... 9 screens almost full its killing me
- Socom
Nice. While we're at it, folders would be nice (even if they were just shortcuts to other screens). Flicking screens is fun (for a while...)
- Alex Gawley
Who uses Google Reader and uses shared items? Share your ID/shared items here.
HealingBrush, Finney Kewa, news2me and 72 other people liked this
I've hooked up with a few of you already and find some great articles, thank you! Feel free to hook up with me at http://www.google.com/reader... and my Gmail is kolint at gmail dot com. I warn you though, I share quite a bit! ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Also, my Google profile is here: http://www.google.com/s2... - not sure when the photos wont' show the correct set in Flickr and why I have multiple 'my places on the UK map and one in the US, but there you go. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I do.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Use it lots - rarely bother adding notes though ...
- Patrick Jordan
I have used the feedly share button often in the past, just used the new feedly popup bar for the first time a few minutes ago. If I want to keep it for later, I'll use a bookmarking service. If I don't care about it sticking around, friendfeed directly. If I want something in the middle, an archive of it kept but don't need it organzed by tags, etc, shares work well.
- Michael W. May
Guilty as charged.
- Jonathon
What's your ID/shared items link?
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't use Google Reader but I slurp in other people's shared items into my Grazr stream. :)
- mikepk
My page is at: http://www.google.com/reader... - mostly iPhone-related, tech-related, and general funny / oddball stuff ....
- Patrick Jordan
I do, and it all aggregates here now.
- Richard A.
All the time though I've been busy the last week or so. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kamath (नमः)
Thanks Patrick, Kamath, added you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yup... Mine is here: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I pipe my GReader shares into FF, too, but sometimes they get overlooked because of the grouping. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Cheryl Jones
I do but more and more I use Feedly to share items
- niccolomagnani
I do. The feed contains mostly software development stuff. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Tapio Kulmala
I only use feedly now, but it's synced with greader.
- Richard A.
I haven't ever used this properly I think... this is mine: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Jorge Escobar
But how do I add people? I'm jorescobar at gmail dot com
- Jorge Escobar
AJ, already sub to you. Tapio, Roberto, added. ta. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
feel free to grow my filter base. I am IdoNotes at gmail and I am grabbing some of yours
- Chris Miller
from twhirl
Chris, you filter from Google Reader?
- Kol Tregaskes
IdoNotes ( shared by Chris ) is worthwhile. My 'shared items'; http://bit.ly/cOpJC
- Wallace
Thanks, Wallace, added you both.
- Kol Tregaskes
Subbed, ta. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Here you go: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Tamar Weinberg
I use it: https://www.google.com/reader... - Julie Gomoll
- Julie Gomoll
Here's mine: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Joey Gibson
I also pipe my GReader shares into FF, but just in case: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Mark Shoemaker
I notice that Robert and Kol both have a pretty banner graphic at the top of their pages, yet mine shows just my name. How did you guys get that? I don't see a setting for it.
- Joey Gibson
Joey, if you click Shared Items in GReader at the top you should have an option to style for your shared page. I guess that is where the banner has come from.
- Kol Tregaskes
I have a hierarchy of gestures that get pushed to FF. Delicious saves are things I want to refer to again. FF direct posts are interesting stuff that is of temporary relevance. Google reader shares are stuff that is marginally interesting but not important enough to go to the page and add a FF link with Shareaholic.
- Peter Kelley
@Kol, thanks. I looked everywhere but there.
- Joey Gibson
Didn't Mike Fruchter create a room? Here is mine: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Shevonne
I would use it more if I had more people in my circle there. http://www.google.com/reader...
- MarkCarras
Here's Mine: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Aaron Uhrmacher
My GReader feed: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Denise Howell
me is http://www.google.com/s2...
- qian
here's mine if you're interested in art and photography http://www.google.com/s2...
- Damien Franco
I'm a Kol fan. As a google sharer, I am no prolific but exact http://www.google.com/reader...
- Pat Kitano
I push mine into FriendFeed, but I should start adding some notes to them for more value. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kevin C. Tofel
I've recently switched back to Feedly again, but I get Kols shared items already anyway
- Ian May
@kol thanks for initiating this conversation. We created a virtual google reader account and imported all the shared feeds in this list: it will make the feedly recommendation that much smarter. Should be able to export the opml if people are interested.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I do and here is my (very politics heavy) feed: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Jamelle
I don't share a whole bunch of stuff, but here's mine: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Beau Liening
I do. Here's mine: http://www.google.com.br/reader...
- Peter Efland
Mine is in my profile. This can serve as a reminder so I'll add the actual link when I'm at a computer and not on the iPhone :)
- Robert DeBord
i found good feeds in this thread. keep your feeds coming! ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Here. Heavy on Philippine energy issues. Why would anybody want to follow that? http://www.google.com/reader...
- Nick in Manila
Why, oh why are you sharing it here? You're already feeding all of this into friendfeed anyway.
- Richard A.
True, but pick and chose your favourites. I'm liking the sound of this filter though. The major problem with Google Reader, for me anyway, is the lack of a duplication detector. OK, it's got to be pretty clever to know I've read this article in this folder already when I find the same article in another folder but some of of dup detector is needed.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader.... You'll find me here sharing internet/new media and tech related stuff I find interesting. I link to FriendFeed so you can get the same content there (plus more) if you prefer.
- Neill Adamson
Yep I use PostRank (used to be called AideRSS) for my main feeds, works very well.
- Kol Tregaskes
Edwin, I'll be interested to at least check it out?
- Kol Tregaskes
Cheers. http://bit.ly/5Mgmm
- Crutis
Everyday! http://bit.ly/q4LNp
- David Ward
Constantly! http://www.google.com/reader...
- andy brudtkuhl
Here's mine http://www.google.com/reader...
- Mark Krynsky
I use it... LarchOye is my username...
- LarchOye
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... but it's also available on Friendfeed ofcourse.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
BBC NEWS | UK | Photographers angry at terror law - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1...
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"Hundreds of photographers have staged a protest outside Scotland Yard against a new law which they say could stop them taking pictures of the police. The law makes it an offence to gather information on security personnel if that data could be used for a purpose linked to terrorism."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Americans should take it upon themselves to raise more hell too.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I hope they can turn this around. That is a very bad law for a free society.
- William Beem
+100000 Rob
- Anthony Citrano
They should have staged the protests BEFORE the law was enacted. This is what happens when you don't pay attention ahead of time--and act. We need to stay vigilant here in the US to stop this horrible trend.
- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
:-(
- Kol Tregaskes
This is the latest in erosion of civil liberties in the UK, namely ID cards, forcing ISPs to keep copies of every email and websites visited, forcing mobile phone companies to keep details of the times, dates, duration and locations of mobile phone calls, numbers called & a database system to access this data, having the largest CCTV surveillance system in the world. The UK population has sleepwalked into an Orwellian nightmare, all in the name of the 'war on terror'.
- Mel Buckpitt
Blimey. Mel clearly reads the daily mail... We don't have I'd cards and the rest are still on the table, not happening or common sense. The CCTV point is also irrelevant you can't have it both ways. As for Bobs point thanks for the hindsight there! And as for th Ive been trying to poke you about this for aaaages!
- Phill Price
Phill, I never have bought a copy of the Daily Mail. My source is the BBC and following the links on the article about the photo-demo. CCTV, both ways, dunno what you mean?
- Mel Buckpitt
@Mel.Buckpitt If you claim to have the right to photograph anyone visible from a public space who does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy, you can't complain that you're recorded by CCTV when you walk down the street in broad daylight.
- Tom Harrison
@Tom: The way I see it, the ubiquitous CCTV surveillance systems are a HUGE argument in favor of "if you can see it from a public space, you can shoot it".
- Jeremy Brooks
Tom, I agree wholeheartedly. My point was not about the right to photograph people in public spaces, it was about the erosion of civil liberties in the UK. The photography protests will be seen as a noisy bunch of rich geeks until the wider issues about democratic freedoms are aired and debated.
- Mel Buckpitt
Former Head of MI5 (British Homeland Security) Has Accused the Government of Exploiting the Fear of Terrorism to Restrict Civil Liberties. - http://www.reddit.com/r...
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Should Twitter Verify Celebrity Accounts? - http://mashable.com/2009...
Darren Heydon, Johannes W., tinypants - Hagitha of FF and 8 other people liked this
Yes. Think so.
- Roberto Bonini
absolutely
- Veronica
I think twitter should be very wary of entering into any sort gatekeeping or upsetting the playing field.
- Vidar Andersen
Twitter shouldnt, the user should. Im sure they can figure out some creative ways to do this
- Vin Turk
sure they should, would prevent a lot of confusion and also avoid senseless discussions about if somebody is real or not
- Johannes W.
from twhirl
who is a celebrity though? there are "online celebrities" that arent well known in the mainstream. Every niche has its own superstars. I dont see how this would be manageable. What about a challenge system so if someone does have your name you can claim it?
- William Kapes
you're right that there are many (niche) kinds of superstars/celebrities. But they could at least try to verify publicly known personalities like Steve Jobs, The Dalai Lama, etc. upfront and let the user's, lets say, challenge/question the identity of others.
- Johannes W.
from twhirl
I think there should be a badge Twitter gives to those that are verified. That way it puts it in the celebs court and Twitter doesn't have to have a P.I. department.
- MarkCarras
Define celebrity. Impossible. But anyone should be able to refute their own identity
- Derek Erb
No. twitter doesn't verify who YOU are, so why celebrities? But unlike you, celebrities have fan clubs, and PR professionals, and agents, and managers, and dozens of different ways to manufacture press coverage on TV and radio, and the media, generally, where they can tell you where to find them on Twitter, if they really use it... and you don't. keep the playing field level. it's just 140 characters. .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
If someone is compelling enough to follow or obnoxious enough to block, what matter that an alpha-numeric pointer represents an identity? Keep a healthy skepticism of everything on Twitter.
- randulo
You know you're addicted to FriendFeed when... - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
Jeremy Schultz, daniela_elle, Rich and 39 other people liked this
LOL! It's funniest when I'm reading the newspaper or listening to the car radio, and I can't find a [Like] button to click.
- Ladybug Heather
I find myself wanting to [Like] things everywhere.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I couldn't say. I don't use FriendFeed that much. -]
- Chris Loft
or you wish your blog integrated FF comments!
- Valeria Maltoni
Valeria: You could always use DISQUS third-party commenting on your TypePad blog. DISQUS now offers easy FF integration as well as slightly more complicated Facebook Connect functionality. Stowe Boyd uses DISQUS on his TypePad blog though he doesn't have the two features I mentioned switched on. http://www.stoweboyd.com/message... http://www.disqus.com
- Daniel J. Pritchett
You wish there was software specifically made for FF!
- Egyirba
have heard that lots of spam comes through Disqus and I already receive my fair share :) TypePad has not played nice with many applications, including the "share this" button. It was an innocent thing and it wracked havoc on the blog. Yes, Stowe Boyd and I had a brief exchange on Twitter on that. Thank you!
- Valeria Maltoni
Good point, V. I get plenty of spam to my blog and it's probably a lot less popular than yours. (edit: You have 40x my feedburner numbers!) There's a "report spam" feature but it still requires more effort than I appreciate.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
LOL! You gave me a good chuckle.TypePad has a very good spam filter and system (so far). 40x? Nah. I have so few comments :)
- Valeria Maltoni
How about this idea for viral marketing - carry stick-it notes to your local store? Likes and comments for the meat world.
- Greg Guitarbuster
thats a start to the day
- Richard Binhammer
@Greg (GuitarBuster) that's good! I'll have to remember to do it.
- Valeria Maltoni
@Daniel thank you for helping making the connection with this thread at my blog. That gives me an idea for a post next week :D
- Valeria Maltoni
You're quite welcome. I flubbed the like count and said 6 when it's at ~20 already. Whoops!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
#8 was very funny :-)
- Davide D'Incau
Hmm. A bit over a decade ago, I remember getting momentarily confused trying for the hyperlinks in a print newspaper on the 'continued on page B3' text. It hasn't happened since. I haven't yet had the experience of looking for the 'like' button.
- Michael R. Bernstein
OT ho risposto al tuo commento...ripeto se è un problema tolgo subito il post
- catepol
Nice List. I'm a friendfeed addict.
- Nicholas James
lol! ... hand in the air!, tho maybe somewhat still in denial....
- Gregg
#2 is the best, @scobelizer is everywhere!
- David Slater
from twhirl
I am in love with FriendFeed, Scoble's posts and Twitter! I have never in my entire life, loved anything like I like Social Media! I am TERMINALLY ADDICTED, with no cure in sight.
- J. D. Ebberly
Yeah, nice list.
- Chris Baskind
The other day I searched for the "like" feature on a blog... Then came back here and gave the like to the post in question ;)
- Sara Maternini
someone just left a comment on this post at my blog saying there's nothing to do on FriendFeed - thought I'd share with this group. You all seem to enjoy being here :)
- Valeria Maltoni
UK Terror Law To Make Photographing Police Illegal - http://www.prisonplanet.com/uk-terr...
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"New laws set to be passed in England and Canada would make it illegal to use bad language or take photographs of police officers, moving us further away from the idea of police as public servants and more towards the notion of cops assuming God-like status. According to the British Journal of Photography, the Counter-Terrorism Act 2008, which is set to become law on February 16, “allows for the arrest and imprisonment of anyone who takes pictures of officers ‘likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism’.” The punishment for this offense is imprisonment for up to ten years and a fine. However, even before the passage of the legislation, police in Britain have already been harassing and arresting fully accredited press photographers merely for taking pictures of them at rallies and protests."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
The naive will never get it so what shall we, the few who do, do?
- Internet Strategist
This is very bad for democracy!
- Jeff P. Henderson
One would assume it would cover Video as well, which would make the Rodney King and Oscar Grant tapes terrorist acts.
- david koblas
This is terrible, if only I had an MP to complain to (mine's Stephen Harper...).
- Kenton
The situation in the U.S. is already far worse than most realize. I personally know of ridiculous incidents including a man walking alone to the grocery store (in the town he lives in) with an empty backpack (to carry his groceries home in) being threatened with arrest and a woman (over 50, under 5'3" and under 140 pounds) being dragged to the ground by three police officers and handcuffed because "walking (between a convenience store and the strip mall next door to it) is not permitted" in that town.
- Internet Strategist
More examples 1) Highway Patrol tried to put the OWNER of a truck's wife out on the highway because the law prohibits anyone riding in a truck without some particular form.
- Internet Strategist
Another 2) Woman commuting to her job on a major highway stopped. Police claim they found something in her vehicle, never charged her with anything and kept it. She was still trying to get it back (at great expense) when I last heard. This happens all the time because police can seize and auction property without proving or even charging you with a crime.
- Internet Strategist
3) I was waiting at a tiny truck stop for someone who was running late. Even though I bought a meal, and then dessert and was talking to people who knew me the young girl who worked there wanted to call the police because I had "been there too long". Fortunately for me the older woman who worked there came and asked me why I was still there and then talked her out of calling. Are they teaching young people to call police any time someone they don't know is in a business "too long"?
- Internet Strategist
These five examples all happened in Texas but in five different cities involving different law enforcement agencies. Surely others have heard about similar issues?
- Internet Strategist
Ridiculous, in especially in regards to journalism & excessive police of which occurs frequently
- sofarsoShawn
We have to stand up to this rubbish before it goes too far. Maybe photographers should have a rally and just photograph every policemen along the way. They cant imprison every photographer in Britain.
- Pete Gilbert
@Pete - unfortunately, "we", are too often in the minority. Most do not see this in the greater context of censorship / free-speech (freedom in general) and is not something that really resonates with them.
- JA Castillo
UK government a bunch of assholes.....
- Rob Sellen :o)
UK is sadly weak on civil liberties. Like our American cousins. :-(
- winckel
you *must* be joking.
- MikeAmundsen
Hilarious, I'll have to look into this!
- Toby Graham
So, lets get this straight. Even the BBC can't use a pic of a policeman in thier stories???????
- Roberto Bonini
That's crappy.
- Justin Yost
WTF? They have to go and ruin things for everyone. "Yay" for the UK Government indeed. :(
- Tyson Key
So if you're protesting, are harassed, and photog the cops, you're a terrorist? When did "protect & serve" turn into "know your place, or else"?
- Pete Delucchi
I used to be an anglophile, but the way things are going, the closest I'll come to the UK is watching Top Gear on BBC America. Too bad.
- Steve Lowe
@Internet Strategist, I actually have a Texas story that's ON-topic, but no time to share it at the moment. @Pete D: 9/11/01. And to my British friends: what was done to fight this law when it was before Parliament last year? Actually it looks like it's been stricken, or dramatically revised, in the final bill.
- Anthony Citrano
Explanatory note from House of Lords committee report: "For the offence to be committed, [the] information obtained, published or communicated would have to be such as to raise a reasonable suspicion that it was intended to be used to assist in the preparation or commission of an act of terrorism, and must be of a kind that was likely to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism..."
- Anthony Citrano
Thanks Paul, this is what is great about FF from a blogger's perspective, so many good story ideas can be found here. Blogged about this based on your post here: http://thomashawk.com/2009...
- Thomas Hawk
Anthony, do you have a link for that explanatory note?
- Thomas Hawk
and like the meek, well-conditioned sheep we've become, the British people will simply bend over and take it. The French would be setting fire to cars in Paris if their elected representatives tried to get away with this.
- Andrew Terry
Cops, the whole nature of policing is corrupt power exercised corruptly. It brings into question the very mentality of *any* person who wants to be a cop and wield such petty power over their fellow humans. I'm sick of our elected representatives giving in to the "law and order" (laura norder) lobby's request for ever-increasing police-state powers at every turn. Frankly it's time to be militant about it. F--k the police.
- Scot Mcphee
I'm betting on a flash mob (pun semi-intended) of photographers going to London a few hours prior to the introduction, and taking a load of photos of CCTV cameras and police officers...
- Tyson Key
Love prisonplanet.com. Unfortunate to learn that it will be applied in Canada. In Quebec, we can take pictures of officers in a certain way (meaning if it's not to bother them). Obviously, someone who's taking tons of 'em targeting only one guy would be abusive but this?
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Police in Haverstraw, NY, took away a geocache and never returned my calls.
- Morton Fox
I call shenanigans on "Zu". prisonplanet is conspiracy profiteering, nothing more. The people in this thread are talking about actual events and proposed policy.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
If someone commits or prepares an act of terrorism commits a crime and this should be enough. Taking pictures should not be a crime if someone then break the law with those pictures by doing something dodgy then they should be charged for that crime. Next we might not be able to use the internet or Google Maps or whatever because we might have bad intentions.
- M F
Not good.
- Ontario Emperor
This a joke!! I'm now scared to go up to London and take photographs! Is there anything left that we can take photos of?? :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
a step toward social breakdown with a step toward public servant security
- GlennIsaac
Aren't I silly -- I didn't notice the link is prisonplanet.... which I am hightly skeptical of. The source is the British Journal of Photography, so I guess I have to call shenanigans on myself!
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
@Thomas - sorry for delay, I need to learn to check in on my comments feeds. Yes, I found that at the UK Parliament site. Here's the page for the bill and its progress, revisions, etc. The committee report is in there: http://services.parliament.uk/bills...
- Anthony Citrano
Thanks Anthony. I'm reading it now.
- Roberto Bonini
I wonder how they define bad language, and how they can possibly justify that that provision has a place in a "Counter Terrorism Act". It seems to be a far more dangerous proposition than the already absurd photography provision since there would not be any evidence, a policeman could always justify an arrest by claiming that the suspect used bad language.
- Robin Barooah
RT @dom: How Twitter was born. http://digg.com/softwar...
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Thanks for RT-ing this Robert. Fun to read.
- Craig Mische
I just gave a talk to about 30 top executives around the world (non tech) and almost none knew about Twitter, Qik, Kyte.
Adarsh, ClubEddy - clubeddy.com, myron and 91 other people liked this
Can you name some of them?
- Chetan Bhawani
This does not surprise me at all.
- Suki Fuller
I'm guessing they do now!
- Simon May
this does not surprise me. i have spent a lot of time in industrial companies and email is the most advanced tech that has traction. can't even get secure sharepoint sites to get traction with execs!
- Jeff DiStanlo
Spread the twitter-awareness :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
welcome to the analogue world ;)
- Sascha Pallenberg
Were you surprised? It amazes me how few people (in general) know about these....especially Twitter.
- Vinny
I am not surprised. The day these and other such folks get onto social media, social media will be passe ;)
- A. Prem Kumar
People don't know about Twitter?! What!
- frank barry
Ya i suspect by end of 2009 it will have hit mainstream consciousness, but still obscure now.
- Brian Carter
not surprised. even some of my friends in tech doesn't know twitter
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I just can't believe it. Do these people live under a rock?
- Happy
It would have been a surprise if they had. Good job Robert is on hand to spread the word.
- WorldofHiglet
There was a seminar on social media and communications in Toronto last night and a few people had never heard of Twitter, either. Is it really surprising or are we just to immersed in it?
- Bonnie Dean
It took me years to get around to wanting to use Twitter. I read about it regularly at Coding Horror (ex: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog...) for at least a year but I just didn't see the point. I finally registered because I wanted to reply to a friend's tweet. I think for a lot of people it's more of a reticence to join social networks than plain technophobia.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
that says something doesnt it?
- Richard Binhammer
This is not surprising. Recall that John McCain does not even use email. And I am sure most, if not all, of these "top" executives are part of McCain's generation.
- Joe Lima
I haven't touched Qik/Seesmic/Kyte because I can't work out the difference. Not surprised most won't have heard of them or Twitter
- Luke
Robert, send them an invoice for innovation consulting! ;-)
- masa media - Martin
Make a list of top execs who do know about social media.
- stefan hyttfors
Not Surprising, I'd consider myself fairly Tech savvy and although i've been registered for ages i only just started Tweeting. Although given the publicity it's had in the last few weeks i'm slightly surprised.
- Jamie Vidamour
but i guess they know about Facebook ? well, i think twitter is more for more tech people
- Junal Rahman
Do you think their assistants know about those technologies? My understanding of CEO responsibility is that they have to think on a super broad and strategic level. Many of those technologies are about integrating tiny pieces of information into something bigger. Since that's not really their job, I would think those services would be off the CEO's radar until they have an impact at that high level. Right?
- David Wynn
from fftogo
Our CMO @BestBuyCMO relayed a similar experience at a CMO dinner he was one or two of 10+ who knew about the tools and he certainly was the top user of them.
- Ben Hedrington
It's not surprising, if you think about it, but it's still unfortunate. Top executives are hardly "the mainstream" and if they're not in tech or marketing, those types of communication are not foremost in their minds. I know one chief exec. of a Fortune 1000 company who still has his "important" emails (as determined by his assistant) printed out and put on his desk every day.
- Robert Clockedile
from twhirl
This does not surprise me in the least. Yes, awareness is growing but anyone who assumes that our social media world has "made it' to mainstream is unclear on the concept.
- Cathy Brooks
from twhirl
I've never expected top executives to have a clue about anything. They're just a figure head for the company. They pay others around them to do the grunt work.
- Chris Luckhardt
What a surprise!! Here in Brazil I've asked to my friends and coworkers and nobody knew about Twitter. Well, some of my friends don't even check e-mails account daily...
- Flavio Knopp
it goes to show that twitter, kyte, friendfeed, etc... haven't really hit the mainstream yet... user adoption will always be a problem no matter what platform or software is out there.
- Dejim Juang
Most of them can't even use email....
- Stuart Murray Walton
What is the point of Twitter, Kyte etc when hundreds of thousands of people are losing their jobs and we are in global economic crisis? Don't these top execs have bigger issues at hand? Are we drinking too much social media coolade in these times?
- Andy Oliver
Dejim: I would not consider 30 executives not knowing about Twitter to equate to these services not being in the mainstream. It you ever worked with "top" executives, you'd be amazed by how much "mainstream" knowledge they really lack.
- Joe Lima
I'm doing a Social Media 101 seminar in a few weeks for entrepreneurs who haven't touched linkedin.com, facebook, or twitter. Seminar is full. We'll likely do 2 or 3 more. I'm not surprised at your group's ignorance.
- Shelley Cadamy
I'm a publisher in medical technology market data and I continue to be stunned at how much behind the tech curve my audience of medtech companies is. Their rate of adoption of social media, like their adoption of new information technologies, lags at the same rate as physicians, who are traditionally slow to adopt any new technologies other than medical technologies.
- Patrick Driscoll
Top *executives*? No surprise there, unless they're *tech* executives. Gates or Dell not knowing would be worrying, but should a boss at Exxon or Rolls-Royce (the aero engine company) know or care any more than we'd know or care about distillate refining or FADEC aero engine controllers?
- James
I don't think we are drunk on social media when we say that in spite of the downturn and maybe because of it, we need to look at the enormous possibilities of social media at the very least as a brand loyalty mechanism(ie I am more apt to subscribe to products from companies/ people that I have a more intimate relationship with).
- Phillip
The other issue with non tech executives not tuned in is their reluctance to accept ideas that don't have a direct and obvious connection to ROI. I have to admit (and I'm not blowing my horn) that during the pre-internet heydey, I felt like Tom Hanks in "Big" raising my hand to say, "I don't get it". Then, I couldn't understand why website traffic mattered more than revenue.
- Patrick Driscoll
Recently, I spoke with a colleague of mine, a university professor of linguistics known as geek. I asked if someone is studying tweets' peculiar language and style from a scientific point of view. "Twitter?" he said, "Microblogging? never heard before". A geek, they say. Well...
- PaperDoll
not surprised at all. You may try to ask if they know Firefox
- ClubEddy - clubeddy.com
There's a whole tendency in social media toward rapidly accepting what's at the front edge of development, while at the back end, product managers, sales/marketing and other grunts are just struggling to hit their numbers. They don't live and breathe the latest info tool -- they live and breathe their own product.
- Patrick Driscoll
OK, I'm hogging the airwaves, but one last point. When I look at new medical technologies emerging in the market, I have to bring in two very important perspectives: the opinion-leading early adopters (docs at universities or highly visible MD-consultants to industry) and the regular practicing physician working in the trenches of daily care. Social media evangelists would have me pay much more attention (I'm simplifying a bit) to the opinion-leaders.
- Patrick Driscoll
I can understand that they don't know about Qik or Kyte, even I don't and I spend a lot of time on Twitter and FriendFeed...
- Odi Kosmatos
You should get a hat!
- Freida Wolden
from twhirl
I don't think that social media is so important that everyone MUST take part in it. If I had more of a life (was a busy doctor or exec.), twitter and friendfeed would be the last thing that I would do in my spare time -especially twitter.
- BEX
Ok, twitter might be something they need to know, but Kyte? Qik? Far too early for both of them to be at executive level of a non-tech company.
- Steven Cains
Carol Bartz doesn't use Flickr and she's Yahoo's CEO. Her daughter does use facebook to post photos though.
- Thomas Hawk
Our organzation is doing well w/Facebook with more plans for expansion after receiving demographics that show a high number of professional level participants and 30 and up crowd. I always considered FB for kids.
- R. Ferguson
I can belive Qik and Kyte. But Twitter. That is tough. Of course my CEO doesn't know what SEO is.
- John Flynn
Robert, that does seem strange. But then I see smaller co's. and non-profits jumping into Twitter, FB,etc. faster. My theory is because start-ups and NP's are open to the pool of university student volunteer workers, interns, and beginners out there who are more saavy in this area.
- Melanie Reed
Maybe it's the name...? Maybe they would prefer using something called The TwitCorp Group
- Catherine Ventura
robert - did you talk to them about zoho, zocdoc, gomobo, freshbooks, etc ?
- Allen Stern
not surprised.
- anna sauce
They must not have any kids... or watch CNN <grin> Nice one, Catherine - love The TwitCorp Group
- Cheryl Allin
from twhirl
OMG there's a world OUTSIDE of Twitter and Soc Nets?! :P
- Mona Nomura
cmon mona you should know by now that in the valley there are only a few products that can be talked about outside the valley by those inside the valley - scoble just doing his job :) ha!
- Allen Stern
And to think, we just had an amazing tweetup in the Raleigh area last night of more than 200 tweeps. Triangle Tweetup was awesome.
- Angela
Mona - LOL - say it ain't so!!!!
- Susan Beebe
Yes, I agree with Freida, you should get a hat :)
- Michael Forian
Non-tech CEOs is not surprising. However, depending on the kind of executive not knowing at least 1 like Twitteer may be troubling. For example if they are media companies or telecom companies then that is a more troubling thought than say the executive for a manufacturing company. Ultimately the lack of knowledge is a reflection of the type of talent they recruit and how that impacts their corporate culture now and in the future.
- Altan Khendup
Did those same guys also show ignorance about Facebook- then we will know that we live on different planets - google,facebook,twitter are all helping to re-shape the way we communicate with each other- rgds- hiro bachani- http://www.merlin-me.com -Merlin Magical Gadgets
- hiro
Amazing how a generational gap can preclude users from a given technology. I bet none of their friends are on Twitter either
- Jameel
Unsurprising to me. I think the only interesting item might be how a company without a revenue model continues to raise money! In *this* economy, that is a story.
- AJ Kohn
The elementary school I work at has started to hear about Twitter. It is going mainstream very quickly.
- MarkCarras
Their on FriendFeed now are they?
- paul mooney
My fiancée has heard of Twitter and she does her damnedest to avoid all this high-fallutin' technology.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Not a good mood if you want to build up goodwill and awareness of your brand. I mean, unless you're McDonald's or something.
- Mike Nayyar
very small % of top exective in japan knows twitter either.
- Yasuyuki Goto
Do they need to know? Is twitter going to get them out of their problems? Maybe their marketing managers do know?
- santiromero
Why would they know or care about Twitter, Qik or Kyte? What's the business case?
- Francine Hardaway
did they know about facebook - for global mainstream business leaders that at least should be known?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Using our difficult economic circumstances to dismiss the tools of Web 2.0, be it Twitter, Facebook, or something else is to embrace the status quo. And if you hadn't noticed, the status quo isn't working. Web 2.0 offers a unique opportunity to reach out to customers, be they current or would-be customers, and engage them in a way previously not possible. As for me, I work for a...
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- Lee Allgood
did they know about computers? how about the internet? ebay? facebook? trying to quantify the time lag between reality and executives.
- Dino
not surprising....met an IT guy at Panera on Monday who never heard of twitter or microblogging...now that's scary
- Brian Appleby
does that say something? twitter and all these things are not the most essential parts of businesses. these things are fun but there's lots of people i know who have no idea about twitter. people who invest so much time and effort in these things have to realise this.
- Terry O'Fee
when things get really really tough these "social media experts" in the businesses will be the first to get the axe, sadly.
- Terry O'Fee
what is more significant/startling... that some do not know about twitter et al, or that some know and do not understand the value either personal or business wise? and believe me i know plenty people who know about twitter et al and just do not get the value. nor the point. which tells me social media is in its infancy still - we all know that of course. then again it took me 2-3 years to figure out email way back when ;)
- Pascal Bouvier
the value of twitter? i know lots of successful businesses who would never even look at this kind of stuff. it's not as important as a lot of you people think.
- Terry O'Fee
You people? Who you calling 'YOU people'.
- Chris Saad
Thats the problem. You NEED to look at it before you understand its value, both for personal use and as a corporate tool.
- jcunwired
you people = the people who think the world would end if twitter shut down tomorrow...
- Terry O'Fee
This post is a complete and utter déjà vu for me. Robert, did this happen another time upon which you posted a very similar statement. For a second there, I thought FriendFeed glitched and reissued an old entry. Maybe I'm just tired.
- Micah Wittman
seems that twitter will have 30 more users.
- pala
Um. I work under people who thinks blogging is new and uncharted territory. I'm in marketing.
- myron
nonsurprising.. some of my teammates don't know about twitter. none of them know about qik. and i never heard of kyte!
- Ihar Mahaniok
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