You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"?
- 0M0M
from email
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Franc, a rememberer
Potential Topics? Amazon tablets. Motorola phones. Nokia phones. Apple next week. Techcrunch Disrupt next week. I'm also now addicted to Breaking Bad. Since last week's show I've watched three seasons of it.
- Robert Scoble
Of course, All The New Kindle Fires Will Have Ads That You Can't Get Rid Of. Didn't really want to talk much about that, did they?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Danny exceeded his bandwidth with his long monologue so now his service provider is throttling every 50th byte
- Charlie Isaacs
Don't Google and Amazon threaten both Microsoft and Apple, because they can give both Software and Hardware away, at least eventually?
- Stephen Pickering
Assume MSFT pulls off the Kobayashi Maru -- where does this leave Intel -- failed low power processor family?
- clive boulton
Microsoft could charge "mob rate" pricing for four reasons: (1) It was a software suite; (2) They were usually bundled with computers so they offered a "solution" or "system"; (3) The software "spoke" to one another; and (4) There was some stability so businesses trusted it.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I think Bezos had it right. People care about services not just gadgets.
- Alex de Soto
I love the Amazon apps store. I gave my wife a Kindle Fire and she hated it. She wanted the iPad apps. I told her to "find them on Amazon" but 90% of the stuff she wanted did not work on the Kindle Fire.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
well, he's selling services, of course he says that. Apple will say they like devices
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Is this more about "PC's dying" or "PC sales saturating and tablet purchases increasing"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
So far, Apple has better "services" in the form of their apps and their licensed content.
- Alex de Soto
Same "mob rate" rational pricing for pizza boxes and garbage collection in NY/NJ - no choice monopoly
- clive boulton
I travel with my iPad + Logitech Ultrathin keyboard -- holds power for > 8 hr. flight, fits on Coach tray table while the guy in front me drops his seat
- Charlie Isaacs
Right you are Kevin about the books. I mostly read them on a Kindle and will be getting the Paperwhite.
- Alex de Soto
I want to get the Kindle Fire HD to play the movies from the Amazon Prime movies via their HD output to my HD TV (but them again, my Roku does that already, but not when Im waiting at my doctors office, etc) @SocialJulio
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Can Microsoft make money with a no-cost tablet operating system? Apple can, and Google can. Amazon can. I think they're selling something everyone's getting for free.
- Evan Prodromou
your doctor lets you plug your tablet into his tv?
- Kevin Marks
Navy Seals aren't using spreadsheets, composing large Word files, long e-mails (= Office). They are looking at pictures, maps, terrains, videos (= Tablet).
- Chien-Yu Lin
"Don't stand out in Kandahar" (Robert said that?)
- clive boulton
My wife is the Creative Director for the Western US of the top app developer. Trust me... nobody is asking for Microsoft or Fire
- Jerry Schuman
(Resigned sigh) Can't I wait until Apple announces on Wednesday before ordering my Kindle Fire? Or will I then lose my Early Adopter button?
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, your wife is a freaking dynamo. I want to be her when I grow up. Any cool new art pieces?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Clive @Scoble: One book written is not a trend. American in Middle East stands out already. Tablet does not make them camo'ed.
- Chien-Yu Lin
on the train is where I want the tablet to work
- Kevin Marks
@John -- what is the razor for the enterprise (any chances)?
- clive boulton
With Spotify, I don't think I'll every buy digital music again. I may buy a Physical Vinyl record for the object quality and the novelty aspect
- Stephen Pickering
Robert just voiced my major gripe. Content is not centralized. The closest is Apple
- Francine Hardaway
I use the Verizon 4g to WiFi adaptor
- Kevin Marks
I have to give Logitech's UE (formerly Squeezebox) Internet Radio some props on making Audio sources pretty centralized. Makes a solid Roku experience for radio.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Kevin ~ Sounder (Seattle commute train) has wi-fi. Always my Goog Galaxy tab 10.1 out.
- clive boulton
One problem with pulling together content from different apps is that it's hard to link them. Inter-app integration isn't as good as Web integration is.
- Evan Prodromou
If I were Microsoft, I'd drive the market this way: (1) Pair up with Dell (they've shown they have reach within business and will make devices cheaply, getting their money through service contracts and renewals); (2) Drive for a software suite that can be loaded into Tablets. Let's be honest: most people use less than 5% of all of the Word, Excel, PowerPoint functionality; (3) Establish...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
A universal notification client sounds like a great idea. Don't think companies will allow it to happen though.
- Alex de Soto
The issue is DISCOVERY. DISCOVERY is facilitated primarily through word of mouth. IOS apps KILL Android apps when they're discussed from end users
- Jerry Schuman
so Scoble, why wouldn't companies aspire to make universal apps that seamlessly move from device to device while taking advantage of all of the best features of each device? That was Steve Jobs' vision from making universally easy products so that every app could work the same across their iPhone, and move to the iPad, etc. I agree with Steve, you and John are both right.
- Charlie Isaacs
@Sponselli: 7" iPad is basically dusting off the Apple II marketing plan. Smaller hands, smaller devices. What will kids ask for come Christmas once they use it in schools?
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Sponselli: I'm kind of thinking that they would start more toward middle school. High school? I could get kids to buy a toothbrush that promotes tooth decay if I marketed it right.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I care almost nothing about Twitter anymore and everything about Facebook, which is exactly the opposite how I felt 2-3 years ago.
- Stephen Pickering
Does this gut some of Flipboard and Currents, or are they accessing Twitter elsewise?
- Denise Howell
'cos Dave Winer wants us to stop using twitter? (I don't know, he blocks me on twitter)
- Kevin Marks
@Chien-Yu Lin: Distinction of wanting and getting. Some parents, including this one, consider the amount of screentime their kids get and the parent monitoring time required.
- christina sponselli
So a "universal" browser for all of this stuff is unlikely.
- Alex de Soto
@Sponselli: Sure. Just saying many kids will go to college and there will be a time when being competitive as a student + school requirements + social pressure / status will create a situation where a purchase will be made. Bonding is pretty powerful, regardless of usage frequency and duration.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Robert, I can see some of your FB Favorites, via Incognito, not logged in
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
For Facebook, most are social loiterers who use the medium as a digital scrapbook and internet chatroom.
- Chien-Yu Lin
But since, storage, bandwidth and processing halve in price every 12 months, then something like App.net may be viable in 5 or so years
- Stephen Pickering
Go check out SylkServer from AG Projects. SIP/XMPP with presence support. Just heard they're going to release in the OSX app store. Light this thing up behind the firewall and get a complete message bus for the enterprise that includes, voice, video and chat.
- Jerry Schuman
ADS ARE ANTITHETICAL TO TWITTER'S ETHOS Twitter is about real-time information with little-to-no self-editing time between information and Tweeting / re-Tweeting. This is why Twitter is used primarily as a newsfeed and the SARG (smart-ass remark generator). And there's the challenge: (1) How Can One Monetize News? We consciously understand - or intuitively know - that news, unless there...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
My thoughts exactly. Probably the longest post ever, during the Gillmor Gang show.
- Nir Ben Yona
Chien-Yu -- you forgot about Twitter as a "social megaphone for horrible customer service" -- expressing negative sentiment about brands. I would also add that people help each other solve problems on Twitter, and help each other accomplish things.
- Charlie Isaacs
Fast typist for sure or great speech recognition!
- Alex de Soto
Chien-Yu Lin - fantastic and provocative posts
- John Taschek
@Scoble: You are absolutely right. Awareness vs. Closing. But I making the claim that Twitter has some very definite disadvantages compared to other social forums.
- Chien-Yu Lin
and don't forget - its a GOODYEAR Blimp as you noted. So Goodyear gets the product placement too - even though you are miles away
- studentforce
Chien: that's true, but Twitter has hundreds of millions of eyeballs.
- Robert Scoble
@Marks: When you talk to people on Twitter do you come back for the information or do you go somewhere else (as with all of the links)? Also, have you made more "friends" from Twitter or from Facebook?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Chien: I've made more friends on Twitter but that is quickly changing.
- Robert Scoble
there are many different ways that people find to make a universal message bus useful, and those individual people get to decide which ways make sense for them
- Jerome Hughes
many more from twitter than from facebook
- Kevin Marks
Chien-Yu: I often prefer the simplicity of Twitter versus Facebook, but FB is def. much more social.
- Alex de Soto
@Isaacs: Yes - Twitter is a fast response, complaint engine. But do you find that it is more of a "starter environment" or a "fostering environment"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Twitter has always been an Identity system. A tweet is nothing more then a Presence message
- Jerry Schuman
I'm nto invited to the apple event :(
- Kevin Marks
It's crazy that Twitter didn't build a business model around search, just crazy
- Stephen Pickering
@Alex De Soto: Agreed. Half the appeal of texting is not wanting the details and length of a conversation, but having the satisfaction of communication. We want acknowledgement, but not necessarily depth. We expect closure: that's why we have emoticons.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Grand Hyatt Union Square. Where's disrupt this time?
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Agreed. But do you think in the long term, will people buy from Twitter?; how will Twitter be able to claim advertising from its platform as effective (it is true mobile, but may have to create discount coupons that expire within 1 hour of setting off geo-fencing - granted, this is a challenge for all - but I see it more as a challenge for them since their transactions are so short).
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu: I see it is both, but I in my role I focus on customer service. It is a Starter Environment for initiating complaints, that are usually taken off line. It can also be a Fostering Environment; when an angry tweet falls on deaf ears it can foster collaboration (in some case "rallying the troops", in some cases others coming to the aid of the suffering Tweeter).
- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: But do you find the speed of Twitter is more helpful than the granularity and details of Facebook? I know each has its place, but in the long run, would it not be easier for FB to just mimic Twitter than Twitter to build a profile base and communication platform?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Sorry @Chien-Yu, got pulled off on a call :) That was a fantastic show, BTW. I like Twitter for its instantaneous activity capabilities -- you can Tweet something and get a response within seconds, whereas, FB has more of a delay. I know a lot of people who are always watching Twitter with one eye (because of what you said earlier about news feeds) and only check FB a few times a day. I...
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- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Agreed. I just think of the possible scenarios - and the underlying usage / "DNA" of each company - I am not sure that it will have the value we think it does. We will all have essentially a "stock ticker" of life that will quickly be ignored and commoditized.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu @issacs G+ has more delay than FB. But comes into its own talking-in-circles. {replaces email in the enterprise?}
- clive boulton
@cliveb @Chien-Yu Well, put on your "vendor filter" but of course I am biased towards Chatter, that replaces email in our enterprise, and many others... G+ is like Chatter in many ways but it isn't integrated into the other mission-critical apps in the enterprise. For example, you should be able to collaborate around any enterprise "activity" -- Leads, Cases, Interactions, etc. and it should feed into a common thread for you without having to cut and paste everything manually. You can't do that with G+.
- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Keep your "vendor filter" on. We're building a SAP/G+ app for nitty-gritty enterprise activity like chasing shortages.
- clive boulton
ok, will do, @cliveb thanks and good luck
- Charlie Isaacs
Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'm following the dog shame blog a lot these days. Cats are totally passe.
- Frank Paynter
That would get rid of all the news about that Russian punk band
- John Taschek
My problem with any social network to date. I've attempted to unmesh the social spaghetti in the past through algorithms, it's a very tough filter to crack.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
YES - gmail style filtering!!!! PLEASE :)
- Susan Beebe
If only we had such passion for more of the meta.
- Karoli
Don't we have the technology to do this already? If we can use Facebook's facial recognition program - and toggle a selection of "human" vs "non-human" images - couldn't we screen out pets, food and landscapes (three things that are usually noise for most users)?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I'm only 2 episodes into season 5, no spoilers
- Kevin Marks
Yes, Kevin... we are going to try to tweak Skype this week based on some new info someone pointed us at
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think he means "aggregating" for multi-plexing? not sure. I know what it means on an ethernet network though ;)
- Susan Beebe
It sounds like Keith Teare is trying to solve two problems at once: (1) For the publisher, a "bucketing" that creates a broadcast audience which also addresses an element of privacy; and (2) For the user, a pre-selected, filtered channel of information. But this is still "tagging", right? - even if it is by audience intent (rather than by keywords)?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I block spammers every freakin' day and we all must do our part ;)
- Susan Beebe
Agreed, Google Reader is my only real content source. Most other places are to output some and see some personal connection news.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
someone's phone just made noise and I thought it was mine. Yes, the mind is the first to go.
- Karoli
@Taschek - Did not know that: Thanks. I was kind of making a sarcastic social commentary about how sometimes democracy of publishing is a bad idea ...
- Chien-Yu Lin
what's robert showing? looks like facebook
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Kevin, I meant Robert's Google Doc page that he was showing briefly.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
susan, one of the things about app.net that I like is that there's a barrier for trolls.
- Karoli
@Chien-Yu - sarcastic but appropriate!
- John Taschek
Honestly, I see very few ads on FB, too.
- Tom Guarriello
@Scoble - But are the ads you are seeing more relevant to you? Could the ads be more targeted now?
- Chien-Yu Lin
there are plenty of ads on fb, but I don't see them
- Kevin Marks
if alot of my FB friends like a product, then I'd want to know about that product
- Da
Chien: yes, the ads are getting better.
- Robert Scoble
at some point we're going to have to either accept a different business model or else accept dictates of corporate influence. I'll take a different model.
- Karoli
@Scoble - That could be a sign that your faith in Z is paying off. Better targeting has to be a fundamental requisite to a more natural mobile experience.
- Chien-Yu Lin
'cos I don't use FB much, my timeline is techcrunch comments and pix of me standing next to people
- Kevin Marks
Facebook added Friendfeed's features to its system ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
most people only add friends and family in FB
- Da
I use Lists in Facebook extensively!!
- Susan Beebe
Is anyone drinking every time Robert mentions venture capitalists? :)
- Karoli
@Tina Chase Gillmor - Do you not think Timeline is specifically designed to remind you that Facebook is the multimedia scrapbook of your life? And in this way, is designed to bond to you through captured memories in a linear, chronological format? Isn't this the premise of Blade Runner?: What are we but an assembly of memories and mementos?
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Tina Chase Gillmore (TCG) - Sure, but I don't think you - or maybe any of the other people on this thread - is really "the targeted audience" for Facebook. I think the targeted audience is the person who would use Timeline in such a manner.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I was using the web browser instead of facebook app
- Susan Beebe
some of my friends are on Facebook. Most are on twitter.
- Karoli
or that's the conversion of those people that they're aiming for, start them talking with their friends, and then progress them to life sharing
- Jerome Hughes
the "smoky fire of Facebook..." LOL. Robert, the poet.
- Karoli
Twitter's notifications on android are shit. I need to update my nanoTweeter fork, clearly
- Kevin Marks
the billion folks that use Windows might disagree
- Da
imagine most will still want the best tablet
- Jerome Hughes
I'm pushing Mom toward the IPad instead of a new laptop. Whatever she gets, it won't be a damned PC
- Karoli
Did MS think Windows 8 was going to be their OS X?
- Tom Guarriello
they're moving the Motorola folks into the Merchandise Mart just outside the loop, from pretty far out in the suburbs… some say it's being done partly in order to shed people
- Jerome Hughes
"I think social media as a whole is in for a reality check. The hype is deflating and real business value is surfacing (or not!). This is where the smoke clears and we all see what remains... shall be interesting to see what is revealed in due time."
- Susan Beebe
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
I want a mac mini for my home theater since I don't have cable. I wanna watch netflix and hulu and listen to my music over the main speaker. sigh but I just bought my macbook. I keep wanting more! Leo, I'm jealous!
- Lise
This all started because I was fed up with the AppleTV. But it's ending up costing considerably more.
- Leo Laporte
It has DVI - easy enough to convert.
- Leo Laporte
you should have gotten the minidisplayport adaptor to HDMI monoprice sells it
- Comptr
Every computer has gigabit ethernet, and circuits are cheap. Always wished that graphics and sound cards included them for distribution
- Keith Barrett
Man, I was wanting to buy the AppleTV. what didn't work for you?
- Jim Williams
It's underpowered and it seems to freeze up a lot. I want to be able to do more, too.
- Leo Laporte
leo can you give us a review on the HDMI to ethernet adaptor when you get it. I have been in the market for one.
- Comptr
Leo, can a solo core run this system or do you think a new mini is requisite?
- Jason L Berman
Definitely looking forward to the full details on your blog.
- Mike Dotta
Sorry, changing this post (it's my first post here). The feeds go down, like a book, not up like a blog! doh! Anyway, I have no powering problems with my Apple TV and no freezes. Both the music and movies sound great on the Bose system! I wish I could set the Apple TV as a wireless base...
- Jay
Wii Remote, RemoteBuddy and Mac Mini = HTPC bliss.
- Jack Zimmermann
I really like Gefen stuff...I like how they seem to build no-compromises full force stuff. How are you going to remote control the Mini? With a hackintosh running Screensharing/ARD? ;)
- Mike Ma
Why not use a Harmony? I've been using a Harmony 880 with my macbook pro (dvi -> hdmi, toslink adaptor to receiver), and it controls everything, including front row, boxee, itunes, not to mention the tv and audio.
- Paul Ward
aah just what the doctor ordered, is there something which also extends the TOS link for sound?
- Jebu Ittiachen
A Vista Media Center computer and an XBox will give you HDMI and a whole lot more functionality, like cable card, dvr, etc. Windows 7 MCE is even cooler. I install this setup all the time for customers.
- Mike
any recommendations on a MCE config. I attempted to put together one with old hardware PVR-150, MCE XP, everything worked except IR Blaster with DirectTV STB (D11-500). Couldnt find a ir code that would work and MCE would not recognize the IR Blaster
- Mike McCrary
Check the Htguys podcast. They just did an update on the new macmini as a home theater component. I believe it was two weeks ago.
- james
@Mike McCrary, did you give thegreenbutton.com a try http://thegreenbutton.com/search...? Are you using a USB MCE remote with a green MCE button on it? Connect the MCE USB IR recvr to the PC, then connect an IR bug from the IR recvr to the DirecTV box. Now all you need is the codes. You can use a Global Cache IR reader to read the codes from the DirecTV remote then program the MCE remote.
- Mike
I wonder if he was inspired after the caller from last weekend needed one for his school?
- OFU
Looking forward to the information on the final build
- Kim Landwehr
Baluns came. Require dual CAT-6 cables for 1080p. I don't Jennifer is going to like this.
- Leo Laporte
Will you be using Boxee? XBMC? Do tell.
- Gunnyman™
I'm planning on trying Boxee, XBMC, and Plex - although Front Row with the EyeTV plugin (PyeTV) is also tempting.
- Leo Laporte
I could not get into Plex after using Boxee. The interface for Boxee works better but Plex looks nicer. I just wish Boxee would implement UPnP for my PS3 like Plex can.
- Mark Ogley
I skipped the AppleTV and went right for the Mini, more expensive but haven't looked back. Jumping out to use Safari (with zoom) on a plasma TV is great, especially for community surfing with friends and family. I tried Plex, Boxee, XBMC. Like Boxee features but keep going back to Plex - it just looks so much better.
- James Nobes
Building a linux htpc based on ubuntu, running xbmc, maybe boxee, whichever ends up being better. Looking for ideas on a remote control. Any takers?
- Josh Haley
I'm also putting together an htpc. I'm a Linux guy, but I keeping considering a Mac Mini because most of the software I have in mind runs on either. I ma end up with a Linux backend and a mac mini front-end
- Keith Barrett
My Ubuntu MythTV backend and Mini frontend works well
- James Nobes
Last friday I taped an iPhone to my head and ran around Paris capturing the most famous sights in a single (somewhat shaky) shot. Here's the video: http://vimeo.com/12906858
that explain other FF posts, looking for tapes and where can one upload large video files ;-).
- Tzury Bar Yochay
Yeah, I never did get the duct tape though, so I had to use clear packaging tape instead (with a sock stuffed between the iPhone and my hat to get the correctish angle).
- Paul Buchheit
this was perfect, I opened up my Paris map and followed you :)
- İpek Aral Kişioğlu
I'm surprised you were able to follow. I didn't have a map (my iPhone was taped to my head!) so I made a number of wrong turns, though the high-level route was pretty basic.
- Paul Buchheit
Saw the vimeo on your stream and watched a little of it. Great stuff! Cool to see new iphone vid quality. (er 3gs? quality, hmm) Oh yeah, and enjoy Paris!
- Jay
It's actually a 3GS, not an iphone 4.
- Paul Buchheit
I think I might tape a photo of Paul with an iPhone taped to his head to my head because I want to get arrested for being a menace.
- Akiva
Ahhh this explains the "ducktape in Paris" stuff LOL :D (that picture is full of geeky win!)
- Susan Beebe
@Paul just curious how much battery did you have left after you were done recording?
- BRҰANSAҰS
Something like 22%, as I recall. I had put the phone in airplane mode to reduce wireless consumption and also because I'm concerned that an incoming call would stop the video or something.
- Paul Buchheit
Not bad. I guess you could get at least 2 hours of recording on one charge.
- BRҰANSAҰS
from BuddyFeed
If so, it'll just be transitional until smartphones are replaced by glasses-phones. Or smart glasses. Do we have an official name for those yet?
- Andrew C (✓)
I'd agree with that. I like the look and feel of FriendFeed, but if I don't want to discuss tech and social media then at the moment there's not a lot here for me :)
- Mike
just subscribe to geeks and you feel that you are not alone! ;)...via feedalizr
- Dieter Schwarz
I actually find Friendfeed to be even harder to explain to the uninitiated than twitter, which is saying something. Anyone got a good elevator pitch? :)
- Brad McCrorey
Brad: just like Facebook's news feed but open to all the Web instead of just the stuff Facebook approves of.
- Robert Scoble
will only come if they forget that they are only ever as good as their user base
- Duncan Riley
friendfeed is the river, where all the streams of information from individuals meet.
- Allison
Brad: "Experience first-hand the artistic process of insightful journalists." or " Get ahead. Hear the news behind the news." or "Easily & quickly hear the fragmented conversation of technology journalists."
- Mitchell Tsai
It's not a bug, it's a feature @Peter Dawson
- Thomas Frütel
lack of a good mobile client and no SMS
- David Jacobs
@Cyvros/fyc: Once communication reaches a critical mass, it needs to be fragmented. Imagine everyone on watching the new Indiana Jones gathering up and discussing the movie in a single place. Won't work. Also, try to have a meaningful discussion in the comments area of some major newspaper's website. Fragmentation gives you a spot to discuss stuff happening with your peers, and not with the whole world at once.
- Thomas Frütel
@davidjacobs: Thinking about it, if FF had SMS, it will be very noisy unless they found a way to send summaries in 160 characters or less
- Tim Akinbo
from Alert Thingy
Scoble, I have no idea who you are, but I have heard your named mentioned more times than my mother's name in the past week. Do you give out free money?
- Howard O'Berry
I'm going to sound like a real fangirl here, but I haven't seen FriendFeed's downfall. This is the most fun I've had online since 1999. I've met more people on FriendFeed who just *get* me than anywhere else. Also, the conversations have been wonderfully intelligent and funny. And it's made me try out new services that I've heard about but haven't had the need to try. If you think FriendFeed is a tech echochamber, you're not subscribing to a diverse enough slice of folks -- we're out there, just look.
- Ginger Makela Riker
A mobile client would be perfect i believe. Besides this if we can name the problem with social aggrerators, it would be better we keep it secret for business.:)
- doruk tokçabalaban
from twhirl
has any of you tried PLURK yet? its like twitter yet 100 times better!
- Live Crunch Blog
from twhirl
I haven't tried it, was waiting to see what the majority opinion was like!
- Joe Dawson
FriendFeed needs more micro-communities -- the Tech comm is strong, of course. There's also a visible Photography community. But it will need more niches. FriendFeed does not need to go mainstream in the traditional sense, kinda like Mixx
- Shey
What's this I hear about Robert Scoble giving out free money? But seriously, I suspect one of FF's problems is that it can seem overwhelming for new users. Until you learn to hide posts that don't interest you, it can be a little weird.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
NO MOBILE VERSION! Notifications are not that great either ...
- Jonathan Greene
Is the lack of being able to filter out comments and (friend of X). Sometimes I just want the content from my friends.
- Mark Interrante
@mark, I feed back to FF, it would be good to have categories/tabs to select where a subscription should display. e.g family, colleagues, interest groups etc. - I think that would go someway to helping clear the clutter sometimes.
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
It needs lipstick & makeup to be attractive to more people.
- shelisrael1
No SMS and can't directly import my Twitter friends.
- Brent Logan
I may be too sensitive to this point, but I think it would be messing with the formula too much and too quickly. Friendfeed has buzz and a growth curve, don't want to mess with that too much. :)
- mikepk
I didn't have time to read the 30 other hidden comments, but in response to the very 1st one, I think geeks are what make FriendFeed worthwhile. I've never felt compelled to comment so frequently, nor have I found so much good content so quickly anyplace else on the web. I hope the geek quotient will always remain high. If the wider world finds out about it, it will become nothing but cat photos and re-recycled net memes. There's enough of that.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
in a just world, friendfeed's real downfall would be the resurrection of Google Reader (sort of a friendfeed+++++)
- McLoughlinPost newsfeed
I use twhirl, but it keeps moving the screen while I'm typing if there is an update. Hence these random bits of comment you get sometimes...
- Rahsheen?
from twhirl
Using twhirl also. Just not enough screen space there, and things to roll off. Web page is easier.
- Todd Jordan
Well said Robert, good article on why FriendFeed will go mainstream.
- Mike Reynolds
FF is definitely gonna need a better interface if it IS going to be useable by non-geeks
- Rahsheen?
I was thinking the same thing, Jason. I don't think my mom would ever be able to handle FF, but I'm sure most geeks/social media addicts will love it and it will be a success
- Rahsheen?
my mom is not a good design test case i doubt anyone's mom is- the person who wants to be highly digitally connected, is.
- Nathan Eckenrode
Robert, I know you didn't intend it, but your two part piece is a great friendfeed newbie tutorial. Thanks. Also, again don't know if it was intentional, but you forgot to include this friendfeed user: http://friendfeed.com/hillary ;-)
- Robert Stevens
Robert Stevens that user needs to engage people with the tools as adults who vote not speakat them like children who must be contained.
- Nathan Eckenrode
Well, my mom is a programmer and uses online communications to coordinate her team, so I guess she is not the most common "mom" example :)
- Rahsheen?
from twhirl
Nathan Eckenrode absolutely right about that user needing to engage. Check her friendfeed page. Not a single subscription.
- Robert Stevens
and not everyone's mom is theprototypical bumbler that frequently gets assigned t that architypical user group
- Nathan Eckenrode
it does make a good friendfeed tutorial, but I don't think it's going mainstream without a serious interface improvement. Its ass ugly!
- Justin Flood @justinflood
from twhirl
It's not even that it's ugly, it's that it's not really useable. I think it was created to provide as much as possible, but with the understanding that someone would create decent filters/clients for it for regular consumption.
- Rahsheen?
I this that whether FF goes mainstream depends mostly on us.
- funkyboy
@PatrickJordan - using Twhirl client.
- Todd Jordan
Well said. Not entirely certain I agree or disagree with your thoughts, but either way you do present a compelling argument for FF. I think the number one reason that will hold back adoption of a mainstream FF is the benefit to the average user. Unless that is articulated so the *average user* can understand, they will not see the desire to attach themselves to another service. The question at this point is what can, or should, FF do to attract average users?
- Scott Jarkoff
@ScottJarkoff - well, partnerships would help. When you sign up for a service, if that service had a check box to add that feed to Friendfeed, it'd be a done deal.
- Todd Jordan
@Todd: Agreed. But that begs the question, how would such a partnership benefit the service you're signing up for? There has to be some mutual benefit to a partnership like that. The obvious benefit is for FF, but what does everyone else gain through such an arrangement?
- Scott Jarkoff
Scott: I'm not so sure that FriendFeed should worry TOO much about that right now. Instead, make the system of great utility to advanced users like me and you. If they make it easy for me to get rid of the noise and present it to everyone else, then it'll take off.
- Robert Scoble
Why FriendFeed WON'T Go Mainstream: 1.) in the mainstream, people don't want to be THIS informed. That's probably equally good for them, and good for those of us who do want to be this informed! 2.) Steve Case subscribed, friended some people and then...didn't engage at all. He's my go-to guy for what the mainstream will eat up like ice cream.
- Robert Seidman
Robert: But how does such usage translate over to the average user? Just because us mega-geeks can use FF, and more importantly we can understand it, does not mean that the average user will comprehend why it is useful to them. _Something_ needs to bridge that gap, no?
- Scott Jarkoff
Last night I tried to explain FriendFeed and even Twitter to my friend the cop. While he has a Facebook profile, He Just. Didn't. Get It. The harder I tried to explain, the more he just looked at me like I just landed from Venus.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
FF can't go mainstream and I said as much in my comment on your blog post, which is awaiting moderation I guess :(. Main point - I could never explain FF to any of my non techy friends...never
- Jennifer Van Grove
from twhirl
Alert Thingy helps with the interface 'issues'. I think it has really helped with adoption / holding onto users
- John Duff
from Alert Thingy
@Geoff Longman - we are from Venus! ;-) welcome to my planet!
- Susan Beebe
No doubt FF will go mainstream. It must over come the too many sites back lash, but over time this is a winner.
- Russellreno
#humdaybumpday "5. It is freaking fast and much more reliable than Twitter. Today I’ve been putting dozens of Tweets into Twitter and they show up in FriendFeed BEFORE I can refresh the page. It is amazingly fast at gathering new stuff from Twitter. I have not found any other service as reliably fast." So true!
- Ahmet Yükseltürk
"Congratulations Tim! I think this is a wonderful opportunity for you! Smart move for Edelman to stand up a VP role dedicated to Mobile. This is a fast growing area which has so many things tied to it. Knock 'em dead!"
- Susan Beebe
I think the reason Apple is so successful is that they have the best product but also this time around their prices are the same as competitors
- Stephen Pickering
schools are handing out iPads to students as they arrive as freshmen (Seton Hill University; Albeline Christian University, etc.) ...... http://chronicle.com/blogs...
- studentforce
Francine... JP is fine, when I saw him at SXSW.
- Hugh MacLeod
I have Paper on my iPad. It's phenomenal. Even I can illustrated using it
- Francine Hardaway
Scoble just justified why Rackspace pays him the big bucks.
- Hugh MacLeod
(Apple in the background chain sawing down the competition...)
- Aron Michalski
Francine, I'm still waiting for a decent stylus for iPad.
- Hugh MacLeod
I have muted. I think I shoudl go indoors
- Kevin Marks
I bought a Stylus in a Verizon store that seems okay.
- Francine Hardaway
The only weakness I see with Apple is data, like I can't get my Garageband projects from previous iPad to the new one or to the desktop, that's the place where the cloud has an advantage, but it will take time
- Stephen Pickering
It's because Apple charged to much for their PCs back then, whereas back then the Windows PCs were just as powerful, but Apple has their pricing right on the mobile, that's why no one can touch them
- Stephen Pickering
oddly just watched the last show on tc hello from a londoner in, erm, poland
- Scott Jones
I just downloaded the most gorgeous Audubon app. It will soon be in HTML5, so it can have a social component.
- Francine Hardaway
I am SO IN THE MARKET for a new tablet I can actually draw with properly. iPad's styluses are a BIG limitation. Waiting for the Galaxy Note 10.1 to come out.
- Hugh MacLeod
io12 sold out in 20 mins, student tried for academic tix, came up sold out after 30 seconds (same old, same old)
- clive boulton
Apple is gonna screw themselves however with their iBook strategy
- studentforce
Hugh, is the Note 10.1 Android or Samsungs?
- Aron Michalski
Samsung tablet, powered by Android.
- Hugh MacLeod
there are so many OHTER and better distributors of eTextbooks
- studentforce
Apple has been training people on iOS UI for a while. First the phone (training wheels), then the iPad, followed by Lion, new Apple TV, etc. MS has a long way to go but can eventually achieve this if enough businesses buy into Windows 8.
- Alex de Soto
I'm so old I can remember when Steve Gilmor used to talk about whether Facebook will become more open or not.
- Hugh MacLeod
The browser is the engine for many apps in the Android. It's actually brilliant as a single engine so that apps are not as bloated. Everything is just a tab to open.
- Aron Michalski
easier to charge for an app via itunes (despite their 30%) than it is to do with an html5 mobile app/site. obviously there are existing subscription/access/paywall models for access to the app, but Apple did make that shockingly easy.
- kosso
they're (the computers in our pockets) sort of like the PS/2s that ran only terminal emulators, plus a little word processing and spreadsheets, 'cause there wasn't yet better stuff around
- Jerome Hughes
Browsers is a transitional technology, incubated Apps, UX and high perf JavaScript
- clive boulton
Apps are for creating and consumption and the web is for communicating
- Stephen Pickering
Apps are for electrons and the web is for photons. We need both to work together
- Stephen Pickering
Someone will have to develop a Mother App to keep track of all the millions of apps that will be available. The Mother App will probably function pretty much like the Web does today.
- Alex de Soto
Chrome or a chromy browser is the platform that all the Google stuff works off of. I used to be miffed about it until I saw that one single engine was steering the functions through a central point. Saves space and lets the cloud feed the device.
- Aron Michalski
Oh well at least the guys are getting a point in befroe the show ends. not like last week where they saved all their insight for AFTER the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wow that is amazing... Microsoft did not innovate beyond core OS. I suspect they will continue to dominate in Enterprise, but lose their consumer base.
- Susan Beebe
A lot of people like to eat at information social buffets. It's not surprising those people don't see the need for fine dining at RSS feeds.
- Todd Hoff
If you use the FriendFeed Facebook application make sure you've configured it properly. We are switching to a new method of publishing in the not too distant future. If you see this message at http://apps.facebook.com/friendf... just click on the link to provide the proper permissions.
I disabled Friendfeed wallposts a while ago to avoid duplicate aggregate streaming there.
- John Lam
Orpheus' music was so powerful that no one could resist it—not even the fairest maiden. He chose the lovely Eurydice to be his wife. But their joy was brief. As Eurydice walked through a meadow shortly after their wedding, a poisonous snake bit her. She died, leaving Orpheus alone and deeply saddened. Overcome by grief, he decided to travel to the land of the dead to get her.
- Azeem Baloch
It looks like people are solving it, so hopefully I'm not spoiling it: Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Tab, Return. It's a variation of the Konami code (which nets you 30 lives in Contra) adapted for the keyboard. Figured out the first part from Paul's clue, but it took going through the minified Javascript to figure out a) that they didn't use the original Konami code like Google does and b) what they used for keyboard equivalents for "select" and "start."
- Mark Trapp
AWESOME! but didn't the code net you 99 lives?
- Keith - @tsudo
In Contra it was 30; not sure what it was in other Konami games.
- Mark Trapp
hahah man that's intense. i guess they know their audience :)
- Frankie Warren
The Legend of the Mystical Ninja: U U D D L-Button R-Button L-Button R-Button Start. 30 lives. I'll never forget that ;p (there also was that B A B A variation too..) GG Mark.
- Zu from AOD
"I love seeing stories on SM listening command centers... Personally, I am proud of the one we launched at Dell as I was on the core launch team. It's still evolving in terms of capabilities and scale. I wish there was a master list of all the command centers with a comparison of key strengths and best practices. Susan Beebe Corporate Social Media Strategist Dell, Global Comms/PR"
- Susan Beebe
In Pic #3, I am holding my youngest brother (picture in 1984). In pic #4, I am with my younger brother who was a year behind me. He is sporting one of our Superman capes.
- Louis Gray
These remind me of Chris Pirillo's kid pics. Do glasses predestine you to become a geek? :) I think I'll ask the government for millions of dollars to study that question. Fascinating.
- Dawn
Adorable !! Thanks for sharing :) I wish I had more pics of my childhood (they're all at my Mom's house!)
- Susan Beebe
It took me 1.5-years to get RSS after Dave Winer first showed it to me. So, I am getting faster. Took me just a few months to get friendfeed. Glad you kept after me.
- Robert Scoble
So how do I access it? <---I take that back. Didn't realize what I was looking at when I went to the site.
- Mattie Kenny
Josh: it was a seasonal thing last year at this time, so it is no longer possible. We may have to bring it back by popular demand, but for now the entries you see are all from last year.
- Bret Taylor
Bret - bring back those cute little red icons next to the FF posts! easy seasonal "flair" feature!
- Susan Beebe