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Raphaël—JavaScript Library - http://raphaeljs.com/index...
Cool javascript library that does vector based graphics.
- Susan A. Kitchens
More stories of Brother Blue: http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambrid.... +this surprise: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog... -He played Merlin in movie Knightriders, w/ Ed Harris
Knightriders is my favorite film of all time & Brother Blue is the moral center of it. All I know of him.
- Dave Slusher
Wow! Well, Brother Blue is reason enough to look for the film and see it; your "fave film of all time" adds to its lustre and appeal (tho it's yet a site unseen)
- Susan A. Kitchens
Pet peeve of the week, people who call my number and say "Who this?" When I answer, "Hello?"
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That's when you say, "Who did you call?"
- Admiral Anika
I'm with Anika. That's what I say, too.
- ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
For the occasional telemarketers that get through (I usually block them), I have fun with 'Yes'. Just say Yes to everything, and no other word. I can play that for quite awhile when I'm in the mood and have time. They always get pissed before I get bored.
- Ian May
I refuse to say my name in those situations. Feels unsafe.
- Rochelle
To be serious for a minute, if I get a call, and don't recognize the number, and Google Voice doesn't either, I'll usually let it go to VM. If their call is genuine or important they'll leave me a message meaningful enough for me to call back.
- Ian May
I always ask who they are trying to reach, or if they ask me for the phone number I say, what were you trying to dial? It annoys me when I am polite and then they just hang up on me though.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I refuse to be a slave to the phone, so if I'm busy doing something else, I don't answer it anyway.
- Ian May
Usually if my cell rings, it's important. I don't get that many phone calls so it's not an every day thing. It always throws me though.
- Heather Solos
I do the same as the folks above, I ask who they were calling and then ask what number they were calling. I screen all my calls though; the only time I answer a number that I'm not familiar with is when I'm job searching. :) Otherwise, those go to voicemail.
- pea
I'm with the above. I say "You called me, dude, so you should know." It is practically always a wrong number caller who wants to compound the problem by being both wrong and high maintenance.
- Dave Slusher
When that happens, just ask for a credit card number and expiration date. They'll usually hang up.
- Derek Coward
Please. That's when you hang up.
- Derrick
agree w/ all the above except the one time it was my 8-year-old niece. I think caller ID clued me in to the household that was the source.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Usually that is the point where I pretend to be the some random business. This usually makes them call back several times to confirm, and I do. I have no idea why I enjoy doing that.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I'm guilty of this. It's when I'm expecting a certain person to answer, but it's someone else. Or when I can't recognize the voices of my cousin's kids
- Rodfather
My old boss used to do that, it was very funny though. It was a bit mad. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I do the same as Amber, and if they're persistent, I ask for a credit card number stating I'll have to begin charging them for our conversations, that only the first minute of the first call is free.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from fftogo
I ask "who's that" out of habit when I call someone because almost everybody in my family sounds exactly the same on the telephone, and accidentally asking for motherly advice from your niece is embarrassing to say the least.
- Slappy Line
Slippy, you don't say Hello or Hi first?
- Heather Solos
Caught! Okay, more often than not I actually say "hello, is that <insert name here>?"
- Slappy Line
Thanks everyone for the kind words. One of life's passages. When a big tree falls, room for growth, But first you gotta deal with the loss.
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My condolences, dave.
- Roberto Bonini
My prayers tonight will be with you and your family --Joao
- TechFuga
Peace be to you and the family.
- michael sean wright
Dave, send my thoughts to your mother as well. So sorry for your loss.
- Jesse Stay
So sorry, Dave. Glad you got to prepare in the time of his decline. My dad is right now at home, receiving hospice care, so I will soon be in a very similar place. Treat one another well, take things slowly, and take walks. Peace and love and solace to you and yours.
- Susan A. Kitchens
I'm so sorry for you loss Dave. My thoughts are with you and your family.
- Cindy Current Griffin
my condolences
- Jamie
My thoughts are with you and hoping your journey is safe and the time in NYC a time for good memories. Always when you hear about the passing of someone else's parent you are reminded of your own. Reflection is yours to greet, and an experience we all face.
- Sheryl
My deepest condolences
- Lora Lufark
Sincerest condolences Dave. Wonderful that he brought a tech legend into this world.
- Zee.
Sincere sympathies to you and your family.
- Ciro
I'm sorry for the loss of your father, Dave. Yes, it takes time to mourn. Take your time. I will keep this in my prayers.
- Melanie Reed
5 Easy Steps to Stay Safe (and Private!) on Facebook - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Damn, but there's some great info in there. Thanks for posting the link, Hal!
- Susan A. Kitchens
Your News Content Is Worth Zero to Digital Consumers - http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp...
"Do I even need to tell you what to do next, Mr./Ms. News Publisher? Create an iPhone app (followed by apps for Blackberry, Android and Palm Pre) that offers a better news experience than viewing your news Web site on a phone's browser, and offers other valuable features. Charge for it."
- Susan A. Kitchens
Fueling Up - http://grrl.wordpress.com/2009...
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Yay Fremont Fire department!
- Susan A. Kitchens
xkcd - A Webcomic - Tech Support Cheat Sheet - http://xkcd.com/627/
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best part is the intro "dear family and friends..." ZOMG! it's like we have sekrit powerz of computer mastery and now this xkcd dood is blowin all our sekrits. Oh, wait. I WANTED those minutes and hours back that went into volunteer tech support. KTHX. It's a win.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Twitter's new fail whale: http://images.scripting.com/archive...
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seriously... this is getting old!
- Monica Brady
Yeah, just as I'm in the midst of trying out http://backupmytweets.com/ -- how meta can you get? Herein is the reason why you MUST back up yr tweets, and it's currently impossible to do so because of 503 message....
- Susan A. Kitchens
That one is amazing. Great find.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Popular Icons | Download Internet Icons PNG icon pack | IconsPedia - http://www.iconspedia.com/cat...
a good source of icons
- Susan A. Kitchens
The Definitive Guide to htaccess Techniques: Do’s and Don’ts | Noupe - http://www.noupe.com/php...
Bunch of good ideas for working in htaccess files.
- Susan A. Kitchens
7.8 - OFF WEST COAST OF THE SOUTH ISLAND, N.Z. - http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcente...
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Yikes, that's a big one.
- Beau Liening
you love reporting on the earthquakes
- Allen Stern
That had to hurt.
- Brent - Loving Life
Tsunami warning for NZ and AU: http://www.bom.gov.au/tsunami/
- Susan A. Kitchens
Nothing heard here yet(I am in Wellington), though it is too early to tell to get the media to get to it. Trust Friendfeed to give me instant information straight away too!
- Wei-Yen Tan
Thank You - http://grrl.wordpress.com/2009...
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That story of Blanca and the three always brings me to a complete. Full. Stop.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Digitizing old vinyl & remembering 70s, 80s: Paul Simon's Graceland, Pointer Sisters, Fleetwood Mac Rumours, Chuck Mangione Feels So Good.
23 mins/side seems so! dang! short!
- Susan A. Kitchens
Nice, the friendfeed staff just upgraded the email/IM/desktop notification settings!
Mona Nomura, Kol Tregaskes, Adam Turetzky and 6 other people liked this
Awesome! Off to look at this now! :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Don't see anything new here -- what has changed?
- Brian Sullivan
I just looked too, and don't see anything either.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I dunno, it looked like it changed to where you could change the settings for individual lists. Plus they switched it so that email notifications for your own threads were on. Had to turn that off.
- Alex Scoble
yeah, and they inadvertantly are sending tons of unwanted email to me. Figured out that I had to go and re-check my email/IM settings for main account ...and for each room I administer.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Yep, I got a ton of unwanted email too. They need to rethink their default settings.
- invariant - farewell FF
Hey Alex, I'm not seein' this. The settings in the tray app look the same as they've looked for weeks. And I've had per-list filtering options via the web also for at least 2 weeks :)
- Adam Lasnik
Yeah, probably just a case of "hey cool, I haven't seen this before" syndrome due to the problem they had with that email setting accidentally turning on for a lot of people.
- Alex Scoble
Did FriendFeed just do something different? I'm now getting emailed contents of FF posts or something.
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Anytime anything gets posted to one of my rooms I created, I get emailed about it. Now looking up information on FriendFeed help.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Second report I've heard of this. I'm going to check my mail...and then perhaps my FriendFeed settings.
- John E. Bredehoft
Same here. I'm getting emails from ONE of my rooms (empoprise-bi), but not from the others. (I'm just glad I'm not getting emails from lastfmfeeds.)
- John E. Bredehoft
Time to email tech support; they were helpful the last time around. I got emailed both your comments to this post. Time to also set up a friendfeed folder to shunt all emails too; looks like my inbox is gonna get really noisy really fast.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Susan, here's the answer. http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- John E. Bredehoft
Just got an email from friendfeed apologizing for the misconfiguration in the system. "it caused a serious error, whereby we sent emails to group admins for each new entry and comment in that group." Yep, that fits the description all right. Glad they're working on it.
- Susan A. Kitchens
We pushed a change to send email by default whenever somebody comments on your entries. You may turn this off from the notification settings page: http://friendfeed.com/setting...
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Note that we're only doing this for people who haven't already set their email notifications (if you went to the notification settings page and clicked "Save changes", we'll continue to obey your settings as you saved them)
- Tudor Bosman
This change was primarily aimed at users who don't check FriendFeed every day, who would like to know when somebody has taken the time to comment on their posts. I'm sorry if this is causing a huge volume of email for you active folks :)
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks for the explanation, Tudor.
- Anne Bouey
The notification setting isn't intuitive. It doesn't indicate to me that FriendFeed will also send notifications for every item that is posted, comment or not, in a room that I administer.
- John E. Bredehoft
John: that is actually a bug and will be fixed soon.
- Tudor Bosman
From what I can tell, for rooms I have to visit not just the email notification (look: I am not signed up to get notices) but the longform/advanced/detailed pref for email notification and re-save 'don't send me anything!' settings. So, agree w/ John Bredehoft: non-intuitive.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Ironically, I had been involved in a blog/Disqus discussion earlier today in which I noted that FriendFeed didn't give advance notification about changes, while someone else noted that FriendFeed gave plenty of advance notice. Now tonight I find out that FriendFeed automatically subscribed many of us to receive emails when there are comments on our entries. As Leather ♥ Donut said, "Some heads up would have been nice." http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009...
- John E. Bredehoft
Our apologies, this change has been more problematic than we thought. We discovered a bug with entries imported into rooms that caused the room owners to be spammed. We reverted this change and we'll roll it out again tomorrow -- more carefully and hopefully without bugs :)
- Tudor Bosman
Not funny. I suddenly have a load of emails from feeds that are imported into my private rooms. There's nowhere to turn it off in my http://friendfeed.com/setting... - here's a screenshot of my settings notifications page:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323... Please reverse the default so that I can get some work done.
- Isha (Marysia)
cool - i got the room spam and came looking for cause, problem answered - moving along now ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Problem not answered. Someone please point to where on my notifications page is checked that I should uncheck http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323... Bug report submitted.
- Isha (Marysia)
yeah, I noticed that my email got flooded with 'spam> like notifications.. I had to reset and turn off all notifications. This is not a good change mngt policy. As a user , I had never asked /set up notifications from FF via email. FF nearly got my email a/count locked in for spam attack.. I strongly advise FF to revisit their CM policys. !!
- Peter Dawson
There's two issues here - the bug regarding the rooms, and the decision regarding comments notification. I can live with the bug - bugs happen - but I'm concerned that there was no advance notice (or if there was, it certainly wasn't publicized) regarding the change to comments notification. While I appreciate the safeguards that were taken (people who had already changed their settings were unaffected), to automatically subscribe people to comments without advance notice is a really bad idea.
- John E. Bredehoft
Why were "people who had already changed their settings" unaffected, and why should that be a "safeguard"? Why should I have changed my settings - I have them to email me when I get a DM and to email me when I get a new subscriber, and that's all, & that's exactly how I want it.
- Isha (Marysia)
List your questions that people ask you all the time that really annoy you.
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When I tell people that I was in the Air Force for 7.5 years, invariably they ask if I flew planes. I was a computer operator and this question is stupid...less than .1% of the people in the Air Force fly planes.
- Alex Scoble
Why doesn't my email work? (I'm a developer, dammit)
- Brett Kelly
Did you get that e-mail I sent you? [which appeared in my inbox a mere 30 seconds before they asked me]
- Akiva Moskovitz
You don't drink?!?
- ♥patricia♥
why aren't you smiling?
- Violet Mae Lim
Is that tattoo real?
- ♥patricia♥
But you don't wash your hair do you? or Can I touch your hair? And the one that makes me cockpunchy: Biracial kids are the best looking, huh?
- Admiral Anika
Ew. Why would you like the Cowboys/Lakers?
- ♥patricia♥
You don't like cheese?!?
- ♥patricia♥
"Is this stuff safe for dogs?" (Whilst standing in a pet bakery) Will also allow: "Is that chocolate? I thought chocolate was bad for dogs" (Again, in a pet bakery)
- Paul Reynolds
How can you NOT like mayo?!?
- ♥patricia♥
Why would you want to put your life out there for people to see?
- ♥patricia♥
Is your baby sleeping through the night yet? (No, she's not. She's a baby.)
- Rochelle
You don't use unit tests?? (Not in a pet bakery)
- Paul Reynolds
"How's your day going?" I mean, if I'm having a bad day, do they really want to know about it?!
- Rick Kaiser
Actually, yes, Rick, I do want to know how your day actually is going when I ask that.
- Alex Scoble
On phone, typing, shuffling papers, walks in... "Are you busy?" [no space for response] Sits down begins talking...
- SAM
Oh yeah, "How could you marry a white man?"
- Admiral Anika
Your baby is so small! She's about a month old, right? (No, she's four months old. I know she's really small. Yes, she's getting enough to eat. Leave us alone about it.)
- Rochelle
"Did those [tattoos] hurt?"
- Brett Kelly
Damn, Anika...how could you? We're WHITE and pasty and WHITE and stuff!
- Alex Scoble
Alex, I get the same question. My answer is that I fly a desk. It gets a funny look until I have to start explaining how many people it takes to support pilots (and each other) in the Air Force.
- CAJ, somewhere else
will you be able to make a payment in any amount this month?
- Morgan Haley
Is that your real name?
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
Not to mention the people who don't even support pilots. I was stationed at Onizuka Air Base (now Onizuka Air Station) in Sunnyvale, CA. We had no flight line and no pilots. We supported the military's satellite operations.
- Alex Scoble
New one: Is that your Grandson? btw the answer is: no, it's my son and no that's my nanny, i'm only 31 (as of today).
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
How many kids do you have?
- Janet
Can you fix my computer?
- Rodfather
"Wow, you are tall. Do you play basketball?" "No, do you play miniature golf?"
- Alex Scrivener
Wow. You're pale! You don't like to tan?
- ♥patricia♥
Damn! You're short! How short are you?
- ♥patricia♥
LOL @Scrivener. Good comeback.
- Admiral Anika
Oh you're in Political Science, so you're going to be a politician?
- sofarsoShawn
LD, :D. 5'2"
- ♥patricia♥
Short girls are The Cuteness. It's true. I saw it on a tee shirt.
- ♥patricia♥
The most annoying one ever: 'Will you please stop having sex with my wife/girlfriend?' The answer is always, of course, 'No.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
And basically any question that shows very obviously the person hasn't tried to find the answer him/herself. More work related than anything else. Wishing there was a "Let me Google that for you" for real life situations.
- ♥patricia♥
Why must I drink all this water, can I pee yet? *no*, give me five minutes and you can pee, I promise.
- Janet
You really have your hands full, don't you? Usually as my kids are being obnoxious somewhere.
- Heather Solos
Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?
- Glen Mistletoe
In a mall when people ask if I need help finding anything my first thought is "No thank you, I don't need remedial shopping lessons."
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
"Glen Campbell: do you get kidded about that a lot?" — "No, but every single person asks that question."
- Glen Mistletoe
When my hair was different colours, I was always getting asked "Did you know your hair is (colour)?" and "Why did you do that to your hair?" and "Does your mother know you did that?" ... strangely, m9m was almost always with me when I'd get asked that and she'd say "Are you kidding? I picked the colour!"
- Nine
You know, I am presently realizing that I'm so obnoxiously talkative that I don't have any questions that people ask me all the time that annoy me. The questions that ought to annoy me just provoke long lectures directed at the person asking questions. That'll learn 'em fer shure.
- Wirehead
"Which part of Australia are you from?" (I'm South African)
- Philip Tomlinson
Dad, can I borrow your debit card?
- Lorin Olsen
So, where are you from?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Are you gay?
- sofarsoShawn
Do people wear shoes in Mississippi? When did you people get electricity in Mississippi? Did you have a pet alligator when you were a kid in Mississippi? Can you teach me to play banjo? Are you in the Klan?
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
Did you grow up in Mississippi, Tad?
- Alex Scoble
Jandy? How do you spell that?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yes, Alex. Grew up in Vicksburg, population 25,000. The Gibraltar of the Confederacy.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
T - H - A - T - you did just fine, Yandee!
- WorldofHiglet
do you have more than one wife. *cringe*
- Joshua Schnell
And the answer to Lorins Q should always be NO! The Idea gives me nightmares, I have enough trying to keep track of my hubs and I n our finances... UG!
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
I think every Mormon man must get that question outside of Utah. That's pretty old and played out. Better stereotypical questions to ask Mormons: How often do you watch Lawrence Welk reruns? Do you like to put mayonnaise on everything? Is your other car a minivan too? Would you like a beer? A coke? Cup of coffee? (certainly no offense meant)
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
What does Lawrence Welk have to do with the Mormons?
- Alex Scoble
Alex, I was at Oz from 94-98 working on the second floor of the Blue Cube. Small world. :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
I was there in the AF from 89 to 95 at the Base Com SCIF and as a contractor in the LAN shop from 96 to 98.
- Alex Scoble
The location based ones remind me of this conversation I always have: "Are you from Jamaica or NYC?" No, I'm from Kansas CIty. "You're from Kansas?" No, Kansas CITY. "So, did you like live on a farm with corns and cows?" SHOOT ME.
- Admiral Anika
Alex, do you shop at Whole Foods?
- Cristo
Edited because Chris ruined the organically created joke.
- Alex Scoble
No pesticides were used in his joke.
- Cristo
1. tell me what questions people ask you all the time that really annoy you.
- Jim Hearts FF
Edited because Chris ruined the organically created joke.
- Alex Scoble
Is that near London? (When telling Americans I'm from Portsmouth, England.)
- Mark H
Alex, do you prefer organic cucumbers or zucchinis for that usage?
- Cristo
People who don't know me but start emails with "How are you?". That said, I do it to people I don't know too...
- Martin Bryant
Cristo, sounds like he has a firm grasp on it.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Are you Kiefer Sutherland?
- sofarsoShawn
Oh, lately, all variations of baby food questions are irritating me. "What is her favorite food so far?" (Breastmilk. She hasn't had food yet.) "Are you going to make your own baby food or buy jars?" (We're not feeding her any baby food.) "Why haven't you given her rice cereal yet?" (Uh, no. Just no.)
- Rochelle
"Do you know who you look like?" No good ever comes from the conversation that follows. Also, agree on the Air Force / Pilot question. Especially as I tell people I was *enlisted* in the Air Force.
- The Letter M
"Where are your pants?"
- CAJ, somewhere else
How short are you?
- YoYo_P
Do you work here?
- ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
from fftogo
"We did WHAT last night?"
- Steven Perez
"What´s the matter?! Tell me!" (my mother, any time I pause for just a moment during a conversation)
- Thomas Bøhm
"What?"
- Josh Haley
I had my nose pierced in 2001 when I first moved to the Bay Area. People who have known me since then occasionally ask me if I just had my nose pierced. Sheesh.
- Lisa L. Seifert
You don't eat pork at all? Are you Jewish? How can you not eat catfish/shrimp/lobster?
- ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
from fftogo
the internet is down. can you fix it?
- Carlos Ayala
Do they speak English in the land of What?
- Alex Scoble
Did you get a perm?
- Rodfather
"Have you read all those books?" nah - I buy 'em by the truckload because I want my floors to collapse.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I can't connect to the network, what's going on? I can't print. Can you fix it? The printer is out of ink, do we have more? (the last one kills me because it's not a question of whether we have more but whether I will go in and change it. and they know the answer is No but they still ask)
- ♥patricia♥
Alex, my dad did the satellite stuff in the Air Force from Sunnyvale, too! A lot earlier than you did, I'm sure...during Vietnam.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Nice! My dad also worked across the street at Lockheed for 28 years.
- Alex Scoble
what was life like back before the internet?
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
Jandy! You're stepping all over my special Alex-Alan bond. :P
- CAJ, somewhere else
"I know you hate drive-bys but..." (said to me peering over my makeshift wall around my desk in the corner of a room that's at the corner of the building)
- metalerik
Did you know that there's a David Cook who won American Idol?
- David Cook
I hope you act surprised to hear this question David!
- Janet
Two: "Did your tattoos, hurt?" (as pointed out by others) And, "Are you sure you're gay" or "When did you know you were gay?"
- Derrick
"You're not going to eat all of that, are you?"
- Aron Michalski
"What are you doing?" (when they're looking right at me)
- Karoli
"You're tall, aren't you?"
- matthew
@jlt-Janet, I have done that a couple times. =D It's funny because then they start explaining who he is. The best one I got was almost a direct quote from Office Space. "David Cook??? You mean like that singer guy?"
- David Cook
Oh, the other one is "How is your name pronounced?" I know it's weird, but you'd be amazed at the convoluted things folks come up with. Standard response: "rhymes with merrily", I say, as I glare. :)
- Karoli
And now I have the song "Keroli, Keroli, Keroli, Keroli, life is but a dream" stuck in my head, thanks!
- Alex Scoble
Are you Santa Clause?
- Brent - Loving Life
You're sweating; were you in a hurry? Does it rain outside?
- Ton Zijp
Are you my dadddy?
- Steve C
Alex: trust me, you're not the first. :)
- Karoli
"Why do you look so angry all the time?"
- Michelle Martinez
what are you/where are you from?
- chrisofspades
You know Coke is bad for you right?
- ♥patricia♥
How do you like being "Mister Mom"
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Not a question but still bugs me: "You know you really should try to get some sleep." Really? You think? And here I thought it was a good thing to be up for 24 hours every other day.
- ♥patricia♥
"How tall are you?" "Do you have to buy special clothes?" "So where do you get you clothes from?" (Because, obviously, average height people need to know where to buy clothes for tall people. Maybe it's for gifting reasons - damn!) Oh - and of course - "Can you fix my computer?" "I think I have a virus and I can't find any of my files, will you find them for me?"
- Andy Bold
What nationatlity are you? Are you part japanese or Hawaiian? Why don't you have an accent in English or Spanish? Why are you always standing up for a cause? Your implants look great, who did them? Do you get botox? (The answer is no I'm not part Japanese or Hawaiian. I don't know why I don't have an accent. I don't have breast implants and I don't do botox. And as for why I stand up for a cause? Because the world isn't just about YOU and you have to look out for others). ; )
- Adriana
Brother, calling me on his cellphone: "Are you on the internet just now?" followed by a request to look something up on a map, do his flight checkin. It wouldn't irritate so if I actually heard from him in, you know, other contexts.
- Susan A. Kitchens
"You left California to move here!? Why?</indignant>" ~Just tell me what you want to hear so I can get this over with.
- Micah Wittman
Is your middle name "Lee" ?
- Dave Roth
Why do you talk white?
- Bwana ☠
Is your wife white?
- Bwana ☠
Do you have a job?
- Bwana ☠
How did you get that computer?
- Bwana ☠
Need I go on? lol
- Bwana ☠
Do you play football?
- Bwana ☠
"Where are you from ?" - Irritating, because I've lived outside my 'home' country all my life, and the place where I live as an expatriate considers me just that - a foreigner.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Some of those are just awful! As background, I'm Caucasian and my wife is Japanese. I get: "Oh, you speak Japanese so well!" Me: "Thanks, I get by." Them: "Are you married to a Japanese?" Me: "Yes... (here it comes again)" Them: "Ohhhhh, _that_'s why you speak Japanese so well!" $%%&$%##!!!!
- Rick Cogley
A couple of times when our kids were small, we got: "Oh, those kids are so cute!" Then, looking at my wife: "Are you the nanny?" JEEZ!
- Rick Cogley
Why isn't my computer working?
- Hugh Ashton
When are you two having children?
- Russellreno
Ah yes. "But don't you *want* to have children?"
- ♥patricia♥
My name is Carlton. When I meet people these 2 questions are inevitable: "Like on the Fresh Prince?" And..."Can you do the Carlton Dance?". Yes, like on the Fresh Prince...and NO. I cannot.
- Carlton Hackett
"Mind if I let the dogs out while you conduct our land survey?"
- wyclif
"Is that a real tattoo?"
- Dawn
"Why would they do that?" When someone is told the '19 hijackers' story does not cover the bases and obviously some other powerful group - more powerful than guys from the desert, had to be the true criminals....Another one, not too informed or well thought out: "But what happened to the passengers?"
- Marg Uerite
"You read comics/watch cartoons?...how old are you?" As though comics are meant for children (think Watchmen, Y: The Last Man) or cartoons either (Family Guy, ATHF, Dethklok).
- Carlton Hackett
"Why are you a vegetarian?" and "Don't you have deficiency problems?" The first question sometimes sounds like "Are you a crazy hippie or did you have to quit eating meat for health reasons". And I'm perfectly healthy, thank you.
- Brome
Don't you want to be a grandmother? (Like it's my decision.)
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
When are you going to make us a grand baby? ;o)
- Paul Reynolds
"How do you get your hair like that?" <-- this question doesn't bother me. It's the follow up questions that come in rapid succession and are usually asked with a measure of disbelief: "So you don't do anything to it?" (No.) "No texturizer?" (No.) "No chemicals?" (No.) "No nothing?" (That's what I said the first 5 times)
- tiffany
"Where are you from?" "So, you don't speak Spanish?" "Is one of your parents white?"
- tiffany
Would you do me?
- sofarsoShawn
"Why don't you speak Spanish?"
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Where are you from?" "What kind of name is that?" "Why don't you speak____________?" (I get Spanish a lot as well). "Why don't you do something with your hair?" "Do you believe in God?" "Are you _________?" (Italian, Mexican, Jewish, et. al.)
- Helen Sventitsky
"how do you get so skinny?" - I''d never ask you how you got so fat so zip it!!
- Charlotte M
"Can you fix my webmail?" Double Annoyance Score when asked by a pretty girl I'm talking to in a bar. Also see "Can you change my grades?" Inevitably she gets turned off and I go home alone to be left to my Thunder in Paradise episodes and Weather Channel music.
- Jared Smith
Why aren't you married yet?
- Amani
And this is one i get living in California --> "Where is Maryland"? SMH
- Amani
Why are you such a gorgeous specimen of man?
- sofarsoShawn
"When are you going to find a nice girl and get married?"
- Steven Perez
from IM
"When are you going to lose some weight?"
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Why do you spend some much time playing on that computer?"
- Steven Perez
from IM
Why are your farts so putrid they make me want to vomit in my mouth?
- sofarsoShawn
"Can you take the dog for a walk?"
- Steven Perez
from IM
When are you going to graduate and what are you doing when you graduate? What do you do all day on the computer? What is Twitter?
- Justin Yost
"Are you still watching those Japanese cartoons?"
- Steven Perez
from IM
Why do you keep commenting on that frigg'n drama llama post?
- sofarsoShawn
Are you OK? Do you want me to pull out?
- Sparky
Sparky, Sparky, Sparky.....
- WorldofHiglet
lol, I'm with you on that one Higlet - Sparky Sparky Sparky *shaking my head*
- Kim
"What's for dinner?" ...dont know, what you are cooking?
- Kreg Weiss
Is that real? Did it hurt? Is it still there under your hair? Do you regret it?
- Head Ov Metal
"What are you?" in regards to my background.
- *Tiffany Diamond*
Are you really asian? So do you know martial arts then?
- imabonehead
Oh another one: Are you THE Bwana?
- Bwana ☠
live look difficulties | ExpressionEngine Community Forums - http://expressionengine.com/forums...
Discussion thread that unlocks the secret of how to implement livelook templates for closed entries; you need to make another template (copy of current one) that can display closed or open entries... and then set that in preferences Weblog/Section > Particular weblog > Preferences > Path Settings (select template from pop-up list)
- Susan A. Kitchens
I'm demoing friendfeed to a bunch of people at Kinnernet. All sorts of tech industry leaders. Say hi. Oh, Jimmy Wales says he'll join friendfeed here. Watch the video we recorded here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel... interesting conversation.
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We're on live video on Steve Garfield's site. http://bit.ly/3XlXa
- Robert Scoble
You are now on the screen. Tell us whatever you want.
- Robert Scoble
Best Buy employee is here. Swear at him, if you want. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Hi Jimmy et all! Nice to meetcha!
- Jorge Escobar
Well, for one thing it is a lot easier to engage in a conversation on FriendFeed and I especially like the idea that you can create a conversation based on any entry or content type posted to FriendFeed. Twitter is touted as more popular but the fact remains it isn't always that easy to track a conversation and the content types you can have a conversation about are severely limited to text and perhaps an image via the likes of TwitPic.
- Paul Jacobson
Waving right now!
- Bill Heslin
Hi folks! People from all over the world are having fun, conversation and a good time on FriendFeed. Like me. From The Netherlands.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Or me from Germany.
- Markus
hola
- Laura Norvig
Hi Robert, Hello Jimmy!
- Tony C
Had no idea what Kinnernet was -- went to the website. Is it deliberately ugly?
- Brian Sullivan
brian: yes
- Robert Scoble
Hi, folks! Please give generously to libraries! People rely on libraries for internet access & technology assistance, among other things.
- josh neff, geek at large
Hai! to the bunch of people at Kinnernet! \o/
- John Rubier
Hey there!
- Carmen
One of the guys speaking is Bill Janeway. Go see what he started.
- Robert Scoble
hey everyone! friendfeed is an amazing piece of technology.
- Trey Philips
The other guy speaking is Yair Frindlinger. GO see what he started. ICQ.
- Robert Scoble
Welcome. Come join us and get direct responses from the real people that use your services.
- CW™
Hi everyone! I have just started actively using friendfeed, and the real time updating blows me away. It's so strange to see comments appearing, and seeing my own tweets instantly appear is always surprising. Friendfeed is incredible!
- Sam Guzman
Robert: there are definitely some really smart and talented people there!
- Paul Jacobson
Scoble... in real time... ftw!
- .LAG liked that
Hi Kinnernets. What is that? going to google
- Charbax
That's Michael Parekh talking.
- Robert Scoble
Peter Hirschberg is speaking now.
- Robert Scoble
Hi ! FF is the way to go : share-discuss-connect !
- Jim Braux-Zin
Kinnernet is a private by invite only event done by Yossi Vardi (the VC who started ICQ).
- Robert Scoble
friendfeed is like ICQ for 21st century
- Charbax
You are still on the screen here. Get involved!
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed = smart crowd source. Engaged thinkers- un-compacting discoveries, sharing ideas and working out the future.
- michael sean wright
okay, look. you guys can join, but don't tell your friends. let's keep this small and speedy. haha kidding!
- Trey Philips
friendfeed could improve their real-time stuff, but it's already pretty cool
- Charbax
Kinnernet is comin around!
- Markus
Hey Kinnernet, Israel is calling...enjoy !
- Nir Ben Yona
FF is the best way to get instant feedback from lovers of all sorts of subjects. This the the cream of the crop in users of technology.
- CW™
Hey all :)
- mjc
With clever filters, friendfeed real-time could support thousands of people chatting about the same topics at the same time, and filter it to have a meaningfull real-time overview on all topics and all people
- Charbax
Yo Charbax, have you tried FF on Archos 5 yet?
- Nir Ben Yona
@Charbax: I like that: "friendfeed is like ICQ for 21st century" ...that's a good start, but it's more than that and has more potential. just one opinion, of course. ;-)
- .LAG liked that
Yup it works fine on Archos, also the realtime ajax stuff
- Charbax
I would say is the Usenet/mix AOL chat rooms of the 90's.
- CW™
Are you all listening to this? Interesting conversation: http://bit.ly/3XlXa
- Robert Scoble
I'd like on friendfeed to type in any topic that I like and get some real-time chat/updates going on in that.
- Charbax
Thanks for sharing this with us Robert. Great conversation to listen in on.
- Bill Heslin
friendfeed is to social media like ctrl-alt-delete is to windows! - indispensable!
- Ryan Gerritsen
Ummm, Robert - I don't know if you follow me, you used to, but I kinda just cursed in a post, so if your demo people are the sensitive type, ummm, yeah, make em look the other way?
- Matthew DeVries
Ha. It seems Kinnernet guys just had an ice cream break http://bit.ly/hRsEq [via Jay].
- Nir Ben Yona
Matthew: I follow you.
- Robert Scoble
Nir: free ice cream, yum!
- Robert Scoble
is steve garfield at kinnernet?
- Charbax
Sorry if my cursing post makes them run away then :)
- Matthew DeVries
@Charbax Yes, I'm here and streaming this.
- Steve Garfield
Cool thanks for letting us listen in
- Charbax
Time to wipe out the Copyright laws and rewrite them for the good of the consumer. Keep the Copywrite owners out of the discussion.
- CW™
...please, guys, no "topless" memes... .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
LOL won't hire someone can't find on google? OMG
- CW™
Good thing I'm all over the net.
- CW™
FYI: Kinnernet conference is named after Lake Kinneret in north Israel, where Jesus is claimed to be walking on water.
- Nir Ben Yona
I have to scroll up and click comment to add a message here. I think friendfeed should have the post message box stay there at the bottom by default
- Charbax
Hello
- Bryan R. Adams
So should there be a company that provides Personal Brand management on the internet?
- CW™
Hello, hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello Hello, hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello
- Susan A. Kitchens
Charbax: you can open this live wall on a different window, should be much easier.
- Nir Ben Yona
@Charbax, click the timestamp then click it again to get a pop-out window of it
- mjc
Ah yeah cool
- Charbax
friendfeed should perhaps provide chat embed type of feature so this friendfeed "chat" can replace the IRC thing on http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- Charbax
Howdy!
- Herb Hernandez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Just set my stopwatch for seeing the Wiki page on Kinnernet expand further than a modest few lines...
- Jan Simmonds
how about real-time wiki
- Charbax
You can't search or skim video well enough
- mjc
I wonder though if that real-time searches/filters will consume too much bandwidth for it to be free.
- Charbax
real-time is over?
- Charbax
Not yet, just a lunch break :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Whose red macbook was that? gorgeous :)
- mjc
In a few days, there might be $100 Android laptops unveiled
- Charbax
@Charbax... source?? Link??
- CW™
Computex, Google I/O, gigaom
- Charbax
Dell, Asus, MSI, Acer and cheaper ones
- Charbax
Don't think $100 laptops can be made out of quality materials.
- Nir Ben Yona
@Nir, they wouldn't be considered quality. It would be throw away machines which is where everything is going.
- CW™
@nir, I don't think netbooks scream quality either
- mjc
Disposable computers. Easy to buy then burn. Kind of like prepaid cell phones.
- CW™
Friendfeed induces behaviour change. Eg, "Kinnernet who? Friendfeed search..." http://friendfeed.com/search... A few days ago, "Kinnernet who? Google..."
- Andy Bold
Michael: you should have seen my Asus N10 ;) but seriously, there's a big difference between reasonable stuff and crap. Arrington realized that with his tablet device.
- Nir Ben Yona
The major cost of the Android laptop is the screen. The rest is electronic peanuts
- Charbax
@Nir, I just don't see 1024x600 as usable for a non-mobile OS. also failure rates for netbooks are still pretty much unknown
- mjc
Michael: Very usable, besides video editing I literally do everything with this kind of resolution and have no probs. BTW, the N10 community has found a way to upgrade this resolution to 1024 X 768, but it really doesn't matter (except when it comes to games support).
- Nir Ben Yona
@Nir, what about the huge number of crappy windows apps and some Linux ones that assume you have at 768 or more vertical lines? there is a lot of that...
- mjc
yo!
- MikeAmundsen
Michael: I totally agree about the Linux issue, way too annoying. On the other hand, the number of windows apps that support X600 resolution is increasing and more adjustable than before, still a lot to improve though.
- Nir Ben Yona
The only thing about Israelis is that once they figure out friendfeed, Robert, they'll show you how to do it better.
- George Hall (Australia)
I wish friendfeed had its own version of "@" -- instead if I want to send you to Doc Searls I have to paste his URL in: http://friendfeed.com/dsearls -- he has a house in Santa Barbara and is doing some great coverage of the fires there.
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I also wish that friendfeed would take the "@" character and point it at the same person's friendfeed account, if one exists. That's a tough problem to do, though.
- Robert Scoble
Since FF is suppose to be more conversational, one would think an @user or similar would be a given.
- Brian
They could make it so that clicking on an @name would get you a popup menu with a variety of choices. It could know that I am "davew" on Friendfeed and "davewiner" on Twitter and "dave" on identi.ca and "scriptingnews" on Flickr.
- Dave Winer
Problem with doing that is people will mistakenly @ the display name rather than the username (what's in the URL). Honestly, I couldn't tell you the actual username for a lot of people I interact with on FF.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Brian: one reason I think friendfeed is resisting doing that is because they don't want to piss off Twitter (Twitter gives them a real time firehose feed and if it gets cut off friendfeed will dramatically change). Another reason? They are very heavy on ex-Google superstars and they know that by putting URLs (and forcing the same) they help the Google page rank of the whole system. Already I'm seeing some of my friendfeed items show up higher on Google than similar Tweets.
- Robert Scoble
I know if you click,drag and drop from a person's name (anywhere) to the comment box you get their FF url dropped. Not sure if that helps or not in this situation?
- Brian Sullivan
However it can be done it would be nice to have the ability to 'reply' to a user. Then those 'replies' could be on a separate page and we wouldn't need these not-so-perfect vanity searches maybe? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Brian: that's cool, I didn't know you could do that.
- Robert Scoble
Brian, I didn't know that. Very cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Robert: interesting, good points. Didn't think about that. Maybe FF will come up with an easy way to autocomplete our friend/subscriber list in a "To: user" box, and shorten the link.
- Brian
the URL referencing a user looks strange, I'd think they could hyperlink the user's name so it looks better
- Mark Bockenstedt
Brian http://friendfeed.com/briansu...: nice find! That is a good solution for now.
- Brian
Hmm and you are able to search by URL too, very interesting. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Mark: yes, that is what I would like to see as well.
- Brian
As there is no 140 character limit to posts here a drag'n'drop url solution that is only slightly worse that the hyperlink solution, could be the ff.im/username format instead.
- René Clausen Nielsen
that seems to be a firefox thing, it's not working in IE8 for me.
- Ben Reierson
If FF could tidy up the user URLs in some way to make it a little more presentable then that's a pretty good solution.
- Kol Tregaskes
René, yes definitely.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ben - I am using Chrome.
- Brian Sullivan
It works in Chrome.
- Kol Tregaskes
Working a bit in FF3.1
- Roberto Bonini
Robert, surely the best way of doing this is just to use the FF share function from the post in question? FF will then put the links in for you. I do agree with Dave though about some form of display on the username.
- Keith Bennett
from Nambu
Another thing -- we really do need one place -- each of us -- where we want to be seen and contacted at. I have a single address in the physical world. I have a bunch of email addresses, but one "main" one. Twitter is becoming that, unfortunately -- because who wants a company to own us. I don't. And I think eventually that has to blow apart. I dread the day. It would be great to have a...
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- Dave Winer
I agree, I think it's necessary to allow people to easily refer to their or other user accounts
- Jan Ole Peek
I agree something like that is needed... I always cringe when @ is overused though...seems so Twitterish
- Bwana ☠
I 27th that movement.
- Malcolm Bastien
make it so
- andy brudtkuhl
That would be really helpful, I have been wondering how to track and continue friendfeed conversations off-site and that would make life a little easier.
- Abhimanyu Chirimar
I 28th it.
- Varun Mahajan
I like René's idea that it should use the ff.im but the display text should be the user's name to make it look tidy. So you drag the user's username into the comment, it links to your profile page and displays as your name (e.g. "Kol Tregaskes" instead of "koltregaskes"). #betakoltag-sg-postscomments
- Kol Tregaskes
Actually I'd just might prefer ff.im/shevy over a hyperlinked René Clausen Nielsen. A hyperlinked René Clausen Nielsen should preferably point to my home (ie. my personal blog). THAT is me. ff.im/shevy is my ff home. Just as @shevy is my Twitter home. I like the easily distinguishable pointers.
- René Clausen Nielsen
I'd say it should definitely link to your FF user page.
- Kol Tregaskes
Dave: for most people Facebook is that place. I have been spending more time over there and it has more things that will keep pulling you back in. For many people it is their rolodex now. It's amazing the quality of people over there and what they put into their profiles.
- Robert Scoble
why not take back the "!" that Pownce has now given up?
- clarke thomas
Robert - Didn't one of the more known tech names, may have been Loic, or someone post a friendfeed thread last month telling people to stop using @ and # on Twitter, because it wasn't needed any more for some reason?
- Matthew DeVries
Whatever the ff version of @ will be; yes it should definitely point to the ff user page. No doubt. I'm just saying that in the great big web pond I'd like a hyperlinked my name to point to my web home as often as possible. And I like it when every service has it's own self-referencing standard.
- René Clausen Nielsen
Matthew: I said that about the # sign, but there are some use cases for that, even if technically we don't need it anymore to group things together. The @ sign, though? Nope, I didn't see someone say that.
- Robert Scoble
Matthew, yep Robert mentioned the # symbol only.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ok, well, this (for me anyway) came after that thread where I saw it, the # is nice for me, because I have a facebook app that hooks off the # fb hashtag and puts that post on facebook for me. I like that a lot, but I'm pretty sure that didn't exist at the time that thread happened.
- Matthew DeVries
this is my fundamental problem with FF - the lack of @ means within one conversation tracking who is responding to me requires me to scan the whole lot - that frankly sucks.
- Nick Halstead
Nick, yep. We rely on everyone using our names or usernames so we can track 'replies' with our vanity searches but it's wholly unreliable of course.
- Kol Tregaskes
Nick: agreed. We are all self interested and need much better alerting when someone talks about us. We already have that in "Direct messages." I hope they rethink this for something like "Discussions about me."
- Robert Scoble
Kol: and it sucks that I can't join vanity searches for my name on friendfeed with those that I do outside of friendfeed too. That's pretty lame.
- Robert Scoble
If FF added anchors to comments and perhaps a DM/CC for comments that might be interesting, though perhaps complicated and untidy?
- Kol Tregaskes
I see this as a matter of infancy, not of policy, I don't think it something Paul et al are keeping from us by design, it's just something they haven't gotten to yet.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert, also, vanity searches only really work well if you have a unique-ish name (thank you Mum! ;-)).
- Kol Tregaskes
Matthew: I agree. Can't wait to see how they add new features. Kol: true, but I can see a world where you could filter based on your friends. "Find items written by Joe Smith, but only display those about the Joe Smith who is friends with Louis Gray and Robert Scoble."
- Robert Scoble
Man that would be sweet.
- Drew Lucas
Robert, yep.
- Kol Tregaskes
Why not add the person you're mentioning in the "To" field? Pings the person just like an @ mention and it adds a link to the person you're talking about so we can all check out the person, too.
- Mark Trapp
Mark - that's fine for posts, but they're talkng about in threads.
- Matthew DeVries
Dear Friendfeed, please copy the @replize feature as implemented by SocialMedian last year: http://mashable.com/2008... XOXO, Daniel
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Socialtext/'s Signals app has a type-ahead find in its @reply feature. They use an AIR client though.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
I think FriendFeed should implement something far more intelligent than simple @-username. It could scan for the mention of a name of a person you are subscribed to anywhere in a message, then make a hyperlink of it. I think I'd rather type someone's name in full than be forever stuk with @username. Also, I think name resolution within comments should be local to the conversation. In...
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- Meryn Stol
Meryn: good idea but what about if someone mentions Martin Bryant, the infamous 1996 Australian mass murderer? It'd link to my profile!
- Martin Bryant
Martin, good point. I had not thought about that. Indeed there are situations when people want to talk other people with the same name as a person they are subscribed too. Maybe very hard to make a good UI for this. Local name resolution within comment threads is more realistic: You just make a hard rule that when someone mentions a first name, he is assumed to be referencing a previous participant in the conversation.
- Meryn Stol
I really like Kol's idea: "it should use the ff.im but the display text should be the user's name to make it look tidy. So you drag the user's username into the comment, it links to your profile page and displays as your name (e.g. "Kol Tregaskes" instead of "koltregaskes")." so http://friendfeed.com/meryn would be replaced by "Meryn Stol", linking to my profile. This combined with a fast way to look up these urls ("find as you type") would greatly improve over the current situation.
- Meryn Stol
OTOH, @meryn could be replaced with "Meryn Stol" as well. I just don't like seeing these @'s displayed.
- Meryn Stol
Nick makes a good point that it's irritating that you don't know when anyone mentions your name inside conversations you participated in. I wish I'd be notified if anyone use my first name inside a thread that I have commented on earlier.
- Meryn Stol
this is a time for the tricky higher ascii characters. ƒ (mac, option-f) is one possible way... ƒ ƒ ƒ are other ways to write the character, according to this page of glyphs http://www.ebyte.it/library... (1st under Symbols and Greek letters). So I guess the proper use for it would be ƒsusankitchens or ƒscobleizer
- Susan A. Kitchens
Susan - those things are IMPOSSIBLE to type with a notebook, cause you need a number pad to pull them off. Was most infuriating when WoW people use them.
- Matthew DeVries
Meryn, it was really taking from René's point but yes sounds good. Once you drag and drop the username into the comment, it changes to a hyperlink displaying the user's name. Not sure how technically possible that is though?
- Kol Tregaskes
Meryn, yep I don't like @s either, name of the user (not the username) please. :-) I know user's by their names not their usernames.
- Kol Tregaskes
Isn't this just the classic namespace problem? Kol et.al. have it right - FF should simply be it's own namespace, and figure a simple way to refer to users. Then display the user's display name with an href to their FF page. No need to point to whatever your *real* homepage is, cause why wouldn't FF want to continue capturing stuff? 8-) But better linking to FF users would be key, as would threaded comments. (Heck, I'd rather have threaded comments and let some client-side apps do the live streaming...)
- Shane Curcuru
I would be very happy if there was some common, linked way of identifying my FriendFeed identity in a conversation. Ideally, it would happen automatically somehow, but this is certainly problematic. One way might be to pick a special character (easily typed) and have FF drop down a list of commenters in the thread. Then it would be easy to identify even in the case of multiple Robs...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
but the click and drag thing is cool. I think it should come up with my hyperlinked display name (not my URL) I find that I can drag another person's name from another conversation into the coments from another post as well. If that just caused me to be notified of a mention it would be cool (BUT training ALL of the FF users to do this might be a challenge)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Since @ is more appropriate for location than person, I'm glad they don't use it.
- Cristo
Agreed. @ = "at". That's always driven me crazy about Twitter. Makes some sense with email if you think of a domain as a physical location, but you're not talking "at" someone - you're talking "to" them or "about" them. I always thought ">Mike" would work better as a way of expressing that a message was directed at me. Maybe ":Mike" or "~Mike" if someone was just referring to me...
- Mike Hartman
But don't you like the slang "yo, at me later - I'll be online" lol!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I had to read that a couple times before my brain could parse it into a thought.
- Mike Hartman
how about using another character rather then @ could that work?
- (jeff)isageek
me too - that would be really useful
- Sharon Hurley Hall
I'm pretty sure the @ functionality needs to just to be standardized across the web at this point
- Zaki Manian
I'm pretty sure the @ functionality needs to just to be standardized across the web at this point
- Zaki Manian
friendfeed should just copy socialmedian's @reply feature. go for it. take it. seriously. you need it. we'd all love it.
- Jason Goldberg
Scoble in the shower
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awe for the love of....
- jeneane sessum
Do. Not. Want.
- Glen Mistletoe
.... uh...
- Johnny Worthington
HAAAAAAaaaaahhahahahahaha!!! This and the drinking pic NEED to be paired together!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
For the love of ... oh, man. Now I have to go wash my eyes out! :)
- Tim Hoeck
My eyes are burning!!!
- Jeff
Why? Why would you do such a thing to the friendfeedosphere...it now looks all warped and raggedy.
- Alex Scoble
do...not...want...
- Helen Sventitsky
OHHHHHH MY EYES!!!!! *LOL*
- Mol, Santa Claws
Reboot.
- Russellreno
HIDE!!!!!!
- AJ Batac
Seeming a little needy, maybe?
- Oldengrey (Jay)
what the frick!? This is why sometimes social networking is just TOO MUCH sharing.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
oh no, I'm scarred for life! the horror!!
- imabonehead
OMG!! Happy wet drunk! Ok so what will be the "story"?! And how did you go from Fenway to Cab to Shower!! LOL
- Susan Beebe
Thankfully, blessedly, tame. *brain crashes anyway*
- Mo Kargas
At least he's clothed sitting next to me now!
- David Recordon
now you have gone to far, Robert. ^^
- ※Fu※
Oh, weren't you bitching about FF stupid posts not making you smarter last week? Well, here ya go. No more bitching. We get to talk about bacon again.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
new Meme?
- anna sauce
Clay Shirkey: the problem is a failure of filters. Indeed. ;-)
- Sprague D
*cough* TMI *cough cough*
- Steve Isaacs
TMI!
- Lindsay
What on earth. I swore shower was some kind of metaphor - why is this taking place?
- Shawn Farner
Wha???
- Mike Doeff
anna - yes! we need shower pics of everyone! LOL
- Susan Beebe
uhhhhh okay
- Alisha
MY EYES!!! @_@ Meme?!? Just a sec...
- Ron
Bacon :-)
- Robert Scoble
well we know what tomorrow's caption contest will be on Valleywag :-)
- Duncan Riley
Yeah, I don't care how many people take pictures of themselves in the shower, I'm not gonna join in that memefest. No thank you. Besides you've already seen my brother in the shower...Remove some weight, adjust the nose a bit and you've got me too...ugh...that's just so wrong.
- Alex Scoble
Nooooooooooooo!
- WorldofHiglet
the goggles, they do nothing!
- Mark Wilson
I don't even want to know.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
Wait, a shower meme? Oh, ain't no WAY ya'll are getting a picture of me in the shower. EF NO!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
"I'm a PC!"
- imabonehead
Wow. lol
- Jennifer Leggio
Tina: Why not? It will be fun. lol :D
- Ron
Hilarious!
- Chris Luckhardt
My eyes!!! TMI
- Paul W. Swansen
scoble bullying the irish spring
- Cee Bee
Whiskey tango foxtrot, Oscar?
- Susan A. Kitchens
someone get this man a hairdryer NOW!
- thomasrdotorg
from twhirl
Tina: I hope they don't do a shower meme. I'm not going to take a picture of myself in the shower, no matter how drunk you get me. *lol*
- Mol, Santa Claws
Is this your entry for the bitch face meme? It's a very disappointingly happy bitch face.
- Pete Delucchi
Why do you hate America?
- Jason Carreira
For the love of God, PLEEZ don't drop the soap.
- Dawn
I've been Scobelized. And I'll never be the same.
- ComicList
Shower blogging is barely one half step above bowel movement blogging.
- Rob Sterling
DISlike! DISlike!
- Joel Bennett
Scoble for VP!!!
- Sean Kelly
why you do me like this Scoble?
- James Neal
*hide*
- xero
Click on "best" and you will see all. Oh my!!!
- Robert Scoble
lol! you just want to start a shower meme so you can see all the ladies pics, don't you? Nice try mister! :-p
- Maria
TMF. Too much flesh :)
- Jonathon
eww no FFing in the shower.
- rob friedman
Hide
- Grant
It's times like these that make me wish real life had a undo button. :)
- Grant Bierman
hahaha! wow Bob.
- Ryan
rough morning, first my head screams and now this!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
way too much information
- Kim Landwehr
I like it - extending to a new audience. You know where the real hits on the Internet lie. Marketing genius.
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
from twhirl
can't I have my morning coffee first?sheesh.
- You.
Really Naked Conversations
- Brendan Cooper
from twhirl
With all that flyin' around, Twittering, and Friendfeeding, he's gotta need 3 or 4 showers a day. The question is ..... Which soap is he plugging ? :)
- Charlie Anzman
I hope it's lever 2000 messing with Valleywag :)
- Anthony Farrior
Here's the link to the Valleywag site with this photo! ha, ha! http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Susan Beebe
Way too much information!!
- Alex Hammer
I knew I started the topless meme eight months ago.
- Robert Scoble
Just with a bit of a time delay.
- Internet's Tad
You're forever the innovator!
- jcunwired
topless meme!!
- anna sauce
Eww. Where's the "don't like" link? ;-)
- Brent Logan
I always thought Robert was more a bath man. I stand corrected.
- Derrick
Gah! How did this pop up again?
- WorldofHiglet
GIGGITY GIGGITY.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Man I didn't need to think of that . gag!
- Allan Bunt
The one time I want the BSOD.
- Danny Minick
we all such idiots :-)
- N.G. Gordon - RadarSync
aahaha.
- Gökmen Karasu
please dont let there be a sequel to this...
- carol alvarez
This picture when viral.
- Keven
Easy Contact Form Validation in Expression Engine - Random Jabber - http://www.randomjabber.com/blog...
notes for validating forms -- in conjunction with Solspace's Freeform module
- Susan A. Kitchens
I wonder if anyone uses the new FF for any serious purpose. Before I finish reading something, it's scrolled off, replaced by the next thing. Feeding the whole write-only-ness of the medium. I anticipate even more mindless comments based on not having read the thing they're commenting on. Now they have an excuse.
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Q is your friend. Also, use lists. And make your lists not too big.
- Meryn Stol
And you wonder why newbies don't get FF. :-)
- Dave Winer
I'm using FF all day long, and very seriously.
- Meryn Stol
Lists are your friends. And FoaF makes subscribing abuse hurt ... and bad.
- AJ Kohn
FF is serious bizness...iono what YOU talkin about.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
iono -- ???
- Dave Winer
I use it to bash Apple products.
- Alex Scoble
indeed Q is your friend - but that requires you to read the help files
- Bart LePoole
iPod/iPhone UI is more usable, no boring unrequested scrolling/updating features
- cyb
Agree with Meryn; you can just toggle off real time with the play/pause icon in the upper right of the content window. But I agree with Dave: the quickened pace of even a paused feed doesn't lend itself to thoughfulness. Brings to mind the whole Nick Carr "Is Google Making Us Stupid" idea.
- Tom Landini
I've almost replaced all my twitter usage with FriendFeed. (which was mostly serious) The realtime just makes it easier to skim thru more posts. I use the permalinks quickly on things I want to spend time on
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Dave, iono is teenage slang for I don't know. Mr Rahsheen was making a joke about the seriousness of FriendFeed.
- Cristo
Tom, I'm not missing any thoughtfulness on FF! I get very good comments, at least on my feed.
- Meryn Stol
But I wasn't joking. For me, FF represents some part of the future of "Enterprise 2.0". That's serious business.
- Meryn Stol
Dave, in seven minutes you've got about 15 comments here ... not sure how 'readonly' that is... do you're blog posts get that much response this quickly?
- Chris Heath
Meryn, I always take what you say as jokes. ;)
- Cristo
The flow is above normal levels right now - same thing happened when the beta first came out. But AJ is correct, there is not replacement for using Lists to manage your main feed into a stream content and frequency of one's liking.
- Micah Wittman
Pause button in UR is our freind.
- Melanie Reed
it's like google reader... but you don't have to push 'n'
- Andrew Davis
So let's assume FriendFeed has changed design to drive more people to its service and grow – what other reason may be, right? Now everyone from the 'pro' camp comments that you need to learn to use the 'Q' key and pause the stream, and organise your subscriptions in lists. Or, to put it in another way, that the default organisation is not suitable and everyone needs to customise it. How does this match with the desire of drawing new, inexperienced people to the service?
- Alessio Bragadini
Alessio: The UI is only busy for those with a large amount on subscriptions. Most new people don't. *Unless* they import all their Twitter friends... So indeed, it could be a problem. And if they import their Twitter friends, they might not know how to use lists yet.
- Meryn Stol
Actually, that's just an option you have. I pretty much stick with the primary live feed until it gets boring, then I dig deeper. Just like I kept telling people with the old layout...the good stuff will get bumped. If it doesn't, you're subscribed to the wrong folks.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Alessio: The point to me is that everyone can customize the UI to their own liking. I'm more comfortable watching stuff scroll by and then pausing when I spot something that interests me.
- Tom Landini
What might be interesting is for some FFers to make some screencasts of how they use FF.
- Tom Landini
I don't get the point of a new release if everyone is trying to customize it to look like the old one. Now FF is basically a chat.
- Carlo B. (brodo)
I was reading the comments to Dave's post and then poof the page refreshed. Heh. I forgot to do one of two things to get the feed to pause: 1) explicitly hit the pause button or 2) scroll back up to the top of the comments and quickly click on "Comment" before the page has a chance to refresh. My favorite is to pause the page using this latter technique. This will cause the edit area to appear at the bottom of all the comments and freezes the page. You'll still get to see new comments appear.
- Loren Heiny
Loren, just hit Q. It's the "quiet" keyboard shortcut. Also, you can freeze the stream just by moving your mouse over it.
- Jérôme Flipo
I think the shortcuts are great, but not easily apparent to new users.
- kilbuda
Because I push all my friendfeed posts and comments onto twitter, I really think twice before the mindless comments. I always try and ask "Am I adding value?"
- Christian Burns
Yep - Everybody. Find that old joystick. Fast ... slow .... stop
- Charlie Anzman
Jerome, I'll give your suggestions a try, but sometimes when I'm using my Tablet PC I don't think about where the cursor is or if I should have pressed the letter 'Q' to quiet things down. Not bad suggestions, but as more and more people browse like I do with a Tablet or CrunchPad or Apple iPod Touch SuperMediaDevice, I think the FF team needs to do a little bit more work.
- Loren Heiny
Dave: I pause the interface. I don't like the scrolling. Oh, and I'm doing everything else recommended here too.
- Robert Scoble
Dave, the "p" key will pause the interface if you need a shortcut. I just use lists and filters
- Jesse Stay
I think there needs to be a "Pause" button closer to each post, instead of just on the top.
- rob friedman
from twhirl
Gosh, I was just going to say that too. I pause the interface and refresh manually. I hate seeing stuff that I'm reading disappear down the page - and get lost somewhere on the next one.
- Chris Loft
I'm not a big fan of pausing - if I see an interesting conversation I just open the permalink in a new tab. You get a dedicated page that does nothing but update the conversation in real-time, with a comment box at the bottom. I think it's odd that the permalink is hidden as easily-overlooked "X hours ago" info, but other than that I think this interface works pretty well.
- Edward Coffey
You don't have to pause. I tend to start scrolling slowly with the mouse's scrollwheel when reading. When doing this, the screen and contents don't jump around. No need to pause.
- Diego Barros
What about if you click on a link? The contents can still scroll before you can read whatever was linked to and then decide if you want to comment about it. Outside of pausing the feed anything else you can do in this case?
- Loren Heiny
Loren - I click on the posting date/time link ("4 hours ago"). That gives you one thread in one window. Bottom of the thread still refreshes in realtime, but you can read everything at leisure.
- Eric Johnson
Out of the box the next FF can be frustrating. I also hate how, if I use the rollover from someone's name and subscribe to them, I then get redirected to the top of the page, and have to try and scroll down and find my spot again.
- David Eedle
Have to agree with you there. There were so many options for filtering content with the old UI. That's the main thing I loved about it, being able to cut through the noise.. I could see Best of Day from different lists (which I haven't yet found a way to do on the new UI). If there's no way to do this and get to the posts within those list with the highest engagement it takes away a lot of the value of those lists.
- Mike Elliott
Dave, newbies won't have tons of people that they are following so they won't have this problem that you are having before learning about pause. It will feel better to them to see some sort of action on a page.
- Thomas Hawk
It's like the FF Developers spent the last month obstinately refusing to read what people were saying they wanted and needed and what they thought of the new UI. "Nope, not reading what you're saying, got the time to read it, and it's right there, fuck that. Not gonna read it."
- Matthew DeVries
I find the best way to "stop the madness" (or pause the feed) is to move your cursor over any post -- that stops the scrolling until you move your cursor back into the grey. Not really obvious at first but works well. I rarely use the q key or the pause button.
- Brian Sullivan
it's a use case issue, I open new tabs for involved items I want to read and then possibly comment on - but I also use pause a lot - realtime was avail in previous version it just wasn't default
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike is right. Tabs and pause work like magic.
- LeighaB
This is a pretty cool thread - I wonder if Dave has read the pile of comments that keep trickling in?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes
- Dave Winer
I agree there has to be an easy way to pause to be able to read or comment. I also don't like it if I have opened another tab with the contents, I return to FF to comment or like and the item has scrolled of to the sunset.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
why do we have a fear for new patterns?
- Phil Smirnov
I feel like whatever I do here is very short-lived and will ultimately be lost.
- Angela
Lists help a ton in terms of being able to control the noise.
- Louis Gray
Where's the UI equivalent for the keyboard command Q. Why isn't it obvious on the web page? It's just bad UI IMHO.
- J.D. Deutschendorf
J.D.: at the top of the page, in the blue bar, is a 'pause' button. UI equivalent to q
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Using the Q button isn't exactly the same as clicking pause. Clicking pause is permanent and will keep friendfeed paused even if you refresh the page. Q does not make it permanent.
- Alex Scoble
one reason I prefer using FF on the iPhone.
- ~C4Chaos
Wow! I'm just beginning to learn to use FriendFeed. I've had this account for, I'm not sure, 7 months to a year and I'm only now starting to dig into it. These comments where very helpful in showing me that this tool requires work and a learning curve. I like that!! I can't wait to learn more.
- John Michael Cannon
People can always press the pause button
- Euan
Real time is king in my opinion.
- Drew Lucas
from BuddyFeed
Interesting Drew - In that I've always thought the Real King was time.
- Matthew DeVries
@Mike Elliot's old FF's good UI for slicing and dicing: Amen. I'm looking for (and not finding) the ability to read feeds by type, i.e., by delicious, or by blog posts, or by tweets alone. Old UI had it. don't know if new one does. I miss those little kind-of-feed icons of the old UI. Especially for some rooms I created where I have a whole bunch of incoming sources -- they're all IDd w/ Room's icon (or default icon). Do not like.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Susan: new FF definitely has that option. Create a filter, include service:twitter (for example) and you're done. All tweets from you, or the people you follow, or everyone on FF.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@FFing Enigma: How do you create a filter? I went to Help link, @ bottom of page, did an in-page search for "filter." not found.
- Susan A. Kitchens
@FFing Enigma: Oh. I found it. I should NOT have clicked "help" to find the answer to a "how do I?" question. What I REALLY should have done was click "blog" -- how obvious! Sigh. Userbarriers++
- Susan A. Kitchens
@FFing Enigma: Before: open Friendfeed, find icon on left. Click. Watch page refresh with results. [Total clicks =1] After: Go to search. type in something, click Search. Page refreshes to see results. Click Advanced option. Read all the Advanced How-to. Browse the many text boxes for the one marked "service." Do not find. Read directions closer. Oh! Type that in main search box. Type service:blog and click results. [Total clicks: 2, plus about 2 minutes of close reading]
- Susan A. Kitchens
Yeah that kind of obvious, already had filter function should have shipped with new FF, rather than having to build the filters de novo. There's a hundred services out there, and I need to build every single one of them, and those filters aren't stored in a nice filter library, the guild haphazardly spread among the menus.
- Matthew DeVries
The new interface works well for me but maybe I just don't participate on enough high-speed discussions to see the problem? The biggest thing I love about the new interface is that it establishes an interaction model that can be optimized and improved over a wide range without feeling too "different." The FF team will be able to tune its responsiveness based on how you use it, as well as how everyone uses it. It seems to me that they already have?
- Daniel Dulitz
What are you talking about, Winer? Pissing off conservatives and libertarians is hard work, and do I get paid to do it? NOOOO. I do it for love!
- Steven Perez
try this userscript : http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Jammy Lee
I am having a very hard time with the new FriendFeed interface. Since this was available at beta.friendfeed.com can I go to an old place to do it the old way? oldschool.friendfeed.com ?
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Some of my quibbles (what took 1 step now takes many more steps) are elaborated in the comments of this FF thread http://friendfeed.com/davew...
- Susan A. Kitchens
by the way, I tried both http://oldschool.friendfeed.com/ and http://old.friendfeed.com/ No joy.
- Susan A. Kitchens
WriteGirl in Pasadena - http://grrl.wordpress.com/2009...
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kewl. thanks for the shout out for writegirl. (btw, weirdness; 2nd time I've tried to comment on your blog, with no effect. Mysterious akismet spam gremlins?)
- Susan A. Kitchens
Ruminations - http://halrager.org/WordPre...
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sitting zazen. nice. (this goes w/ all the sympathy of the logistical craziness you're in)
- Susan A. Kitchens
Twitter needs a philosophy beyond "What are you doing?" -- It must explain what Twitter is and why celebs are BigMedia treated specially.
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Dave, the philosophy is "what are the people you are following doing?" That is consistent, and explains the focus on the famous.
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt, that doesn't do it for me. And even if it did, you aren't one of the principals. So what you think and they think might be very different. BTW, Google did this pretty early-on, they said their goal was to bring people the information of the world. And they added "Don't be evil," which was believable for a few years. Twitter, a very young company, hasn't said what they do. Is there a vision? I have a vision for it. I'd like to hear theirs.
- Dave Winer
Interesting reference, Dave. The "ten things" letter was published back in 2001, I believe. Long, long before my time here, though some FriendFeeders remember it. Interestingly, Twitter now is about the same age as Google was when that was written.
- DeWitt Clinton
A dangerous question, because the answer might be "we don't know" :)
- Ray Cromwell
DeWitt, here's the piece I wrote to explain what I was doing with blogging in 1999. http://www.scripting.com/davenet... The vision part begins with: "Writing for the web is too damned hard."
- Dave Winer
How about "Twitter is SMS broadcast gone horribly awry"? :)
- Joel Webber
Maybe a new Twitter motto: What is your company/celebrity/app doing?
- Armando Alves
Or a more sexual motto: What celeb are you doing? :-)
- Dave Winer
"Twitter: when *real* stalking is just too much work"
- Bill Seitz
why does Twitter have to create its own identity? I am perfectly happy with them allowing us to create the identity for them. No marketing required. If it fun and interactive, I will join and bring my friends with me.
- Bob Blunk
Dave, thanks for that reference to vision for blogging: "Writing for the web is too damned hard." That sparked a lightbulb moment for me. I'm working on another problem that's "too damned hard"
- Susan A. Kitchens
A dollar bill taped to the floor of friendfeed's offices: - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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This is a dollar bill taped to the floor of FriendFeed's headquarters. It's a bit of social engineering. They figured out it kept people from tripping on the cord cover because people noticed the money on the floor.
- Robert Scoble
Hahaha, now that is brilliant stuff. Awesome.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
This is a fantastic idea.
- Jeremy Botter
Wouldn't last long in my office.
- Ralph Whitbeck
Amazing.. think I could use this idea in a few places.
- Roberto Bonini
Clever! i love it.
- Kurai (ff)
from twhirl
Simple, clever, great idea. That FriendFeed crew is a bunch of smart fellers!
- Brandon Wood
My employer is too frugal to do that.
- Jonathon
Inexpensive risk management.
- Dave Pelland
Ha! Very clever.
- Brent Newhall
brilliant
- mjc
Wow! I'm speechless.
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
nice
- Mike Collett
The dollar bill trick doesn’t work with strippers though ;)
- Moved to Facebook
@Earl: Consider it a stripper-filter, then. You know someone's a stripper if they trip over it.
- April Buchheit
for some reason i expect a "stripper filter" to be something coded using regular expressions. sad, i know.
- Karim
The message here is that Web 2.0 companies are so ignorant of money and revenue that they even step over a dollar on the floor
- Jason Carreira
from twhirl
Genius!!!
- Joe Dawson
Interesting. The photo has been viewed more than 500 times, but has only earned 62 likes and 19 comments. So, for every 1 thing we can see here there's another 9 people hanging out lurking in the shadows.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble the old 90-9-1 rule :) (well almost)
- Naor Mark
You could always just superglue some road kill to those things. Nothing gets people's attention more than a dead opossum.
- Andrew Leyden
wow, that's funny smart!
- Susan Beebe
I stubbed my toe on that dollar.
- Michael Muller
Heath And Safety in the UK would not approve....but I do!
- Toby Graham
"but has only earned 62 likes". This currently stands as the most-liked Flickr photo of all time.
- Vezquex: God of FF
I forgot about that photo. It does work, though. Everytime I visit friendfeed's offices I see the dollar and I'm careful not to trip over it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
That's dumb. Why couldn't they afford to run the cord somewhere where it wouldn't be in the way in the first place?
- Robert Peña
As an IE I can state that's definitely not something to publicize. Definitely not OSHA Kosher.
- Adi
Great idea will have to remember this.
- Laura Gonzalez
Reminds me of the deli counter in grocery store in Scotts Valley across the street from NorCal offices of MetaCreations (the Fractal Design arm of it). Local companies'd go there for lunch daily. PROBLEM: Deli counter pencils (for marking your sandwich menu) disappeared at frightful rate. SOLUTION: Deli affixed pencils with price label. Price: $100.00. Pencils stayed at store. :)
- Susan A. Kitchens
Haha I like that trick for keeping Pens from going missing Susan!
- Garin Kilpatrick
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