"Disk Images Helper" was taking 90+% of CPU for the last few days. No wonder I couldn't get Office to work at all and was getting the spinning wheel of death on so many sites. *facepalm*
- Louis Gray
And here I was thinking of switching 100% to Google Docs or reinstalling Office or using my wife's new MacBook. Stupid.
- Louis Gray
Days? Consider using iStat Menus or similar tools so that you can see the CPU is going nuts immediately. (Or memory is in heavy use and the Mac is paging to disk.)
- Hiro Asari
I did not mislead Matt Cutts. The idea that I could replace many of my apps and experiences with Google is very real. I am excited about what they are bringing to market and Android is very cool. My mention of Google Docs above meant that as Office was failing, I was going to work around it.
- Louis Gray
Maybe, secretly, diskimages-helper _wants_ you to use Google docs. If you were storing your documents in the cloud, you wouldn't need help from a disk imager, now would you? And diskimager would have more free time.
- Andy Bakun
You know, the whole point of the savvy style is to get you to detach yourself from your fellow citizens and look at them as objects of (savvy) technique
Isn't the Los Angeles Times violating copyright law and/or Creative Commons terms by using people's photos commercially *and* without attribution *and* without a link *and then* asserting their OWN copyright thereon? http://www.latimes.com/news...#fuckinglame
That's very lame. Almost as lame as looking at the fullsize pic and then trying to click onto the next image....
- WorldofHiglet
They have a very creative use of the term copyright.
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
And now they're using several of mine (screenshot: http://www.citrano.com/pix...) -- I've e-mailed their editorial staff and am eager to hear the explanation.
- Anthony Citrano
They just pulled it right off your Flickr? That's lame. (without attribution and slapping their copyright on it.)
- Gus
Sounds like it's the MSM doing the pirating this time.
- Dennis Jernberg
Depends how they are doing it actually. If they are only pulling off Creative Commons licensed photos then they'd be ok. If they are pulling of all rights reserved photos and creative commons non commercial licensed photos they'd be in violation of these licenses. In either case they are violating Flickr's terms of use which require them to include a link back to the original image on...
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- Thomas Hawk
Perhaps they intend the copyright to apply to entire content of the page versus the specific content of the photo. In any case, I agree quite lame.
- Khürt Williams
FWIW their attribution link is hidden behind that 'i' at the bottom. They do this *all* the time and each time they get more and more clever about hiding the attribution from the pictures they pull from Flickr. Still, they need to stop pulling in photos by keywords and pay attention to the CC license. Too time consuming? Then don't do it, LA Times.
- Admiral Anika
"Do link back to Flickr when you post your Flickr content elsewhere. The Flickr service makes it possible to post content hosted on Flickr to outside web sites. However, pages on other web sites that display content hosted on flickr.com must provide a link from each photo or video back to its page on Flickr." Per the community guidelines at Flickr. the L.A. Times is not linking back.
- Thomas Hawk
Well, it looks like today they added the "LINK TO OWNER" thing within the "i" button. This was *not* there last night - I looked, very hard (and much harder than 99% of LATimes readers would look). But they're still ignoring the main issue. I've seen several today and last night with various license settings, including many marked "All Rights Reserved".
- Anthony Citrano
I am just trying to get my mind around how this is much different than if the pictures where posted on FF.
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian - (non-stolen) pictures on FF (such as flickr favorites, etc.) are always linked back to their creator and are (ostensibly) being used noncommercially. Further, a user is not asserting their own copyright. Yet further, I have long howled about FF users who steal images and then upload them directly to FF without credit - not because of the money or lack of respect for the artists but because they (the FF user) essentially orphan the work by doing that.
- Anthony Citrano
The linking back is the only issue I can see. Here it could be said it looks like FF is asserting copyright -- much the same as LA Times put a copyright notice on the page.See http://friendfeed.com/briansu... where I used the bookmarklet to post pictures from your Flickr site.
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian - sure, for my stuff, which is CC, but if you did that with someone's images that were marked "All Rights Reserved" then what you did there would be illegal. That is to say, it would not qualify as "fair use" (but I'm no lawyer) and the creator could pursue remedies against you and/or FF.
- Anthony Citrano
But almost every use of the bookmarklet would then be deemed illegal and FF would the most copyright offending organization on the planet - the LA Times would be rank amateurs-- but maybe that is where this is all headed?
- Brian Sullivan
Just for kicks, I marked one of my uploads "All Rights Reserved" just now. A few minutes later, there it was on the LA Times site. Brian - to your point about FF, let's set aside the general rule that just because other people do it doesn't mean it's not wrong - and think about commercial use. Say what you will about FriendFeed's future profit potential, but it's a hell of a lot more...
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- Anthony Citrano
Is the "commercial use" thing real though -- "all rights" would include even what happens on FF.
- Brian Sullivan
Anthony, take a screen shot of your image and send them in invoice for $1,000 and see what happens. If nothing else it would make for an interesting story as you followed the progress of it all.
- Thomas Hawk
@Thomas I want to see what they say first. They deserve a chance to respond. If I do send them an invoice, it will only be to make a point - and if the invoice is honored, the money will go to a non-profit.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony -- my name is Sean Connelley. I am the one who created the Flickr widget used on the LA Times. I wanted to just explain what happened from my side, in hopes it clear some of this up for everyone. The CC issue was an honest mistake on my part and in know way was I just trying to hijack or steal anyone's photo. When retrieving photos using the Flickr API, there is a parameter...
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- Sean Connelley
Interesting to see what Anthony says but good to see Mr Connelley giving an explanation.
- WorldofHiglet
Sean, thanks for posting here with the explanation, but can you explain why both mistakes you detail were left up and running for more than a day before being corrected? I understand the point you made about wanting to rush out your widget, but even a few minutes of testing after launch should have revealed both errors to you.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen -- All I can say is they slipped through. After initially finishing the widget, I debugged it for about an hour or so, for various problems. So I guessed I overlooked those. Also on the CC issue, I had no real reason to believe it wasn't working, I thought I was doing it right. I was alerted to the problem this morning and I fixed the link back to the user and I thought I fixed...
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- Sean Connelley
Sean, thanks for being forthcoming and posting the details.
- Stephen Mack
Hi Sean - thanks for explaining what's going on here. We all make mistakes. I didn't think you guys were being intentionally malicious, just careless. And it appears you still are - I just went over to the widget and you are *still* using photos marked “Noncommercial” and “All Rights Reserved.” Are you asserting some kind of fair use claim with select images (which I really don't think you can legitimately do here), or is it still just coded incorrectly?
- Anthony Citrano
For example, the first photo the widget is showing at the moment is this one by Theron Trowbridge: http://www.flickr.com/photos... which is marked with a CC Attribution-Noncommercial license. Images 4-17 are by Clayton Bruster, and all of Clayton's images are marked (C) "All Rights Reserved." (e.g. http://www.flickr.com/photos...) And to...
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- Anthony Citrano
A great reason to establish your social media plan of attack parameters long before a crisis, so as to eliminate (or at least reduce) opportunity for error. This realm of reporting will continue to extend its reach into territories that continue to test the scope and spirit of traditional media. An editor must also wonder at which point does the life of a reporter (photographer) transfer to and from personal and professional.
- FidelGonzales
interesting. Good to see the L.A. Times chime in, but it does seem pretty sloppy that it would appear that *still* all rights reserved photos are showing up in the stream. I just looked at it and the first photo that was pulled up was an all rights reserved one: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Thomas Hawk
Guess people need to start sending invoices. Maybe we should post onto the photo's comments that 'did you know the LAT is currently using your image?'
- MikeDeal / ZoneDancer
I thought photos were "free like the air". Invoices would certaily be the way to go
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
Not to be obstreperous here -- but again I ask -- how is LA Times use any different than what happens on FriendFeed?
- Brian Sullivan
oh, my nightmare continues... I assumed the widget was taken down. I have now corrected it, with a version that should eliminate any of your photos from being grabbed please check in a few minutes, also might need to clear cache and reload page. I apologize for these series of mistakes.
- Sean Connelley
ok, I just checked... it does not appear to be loading any "All Rights Reserved."... Anthony to your question of why I didn't just check. I should of and I didn't, I wish I had a better answer. Can I ask this group a question. Seeing as you all seem to be passionate flickr user's and photographers. Do you see any value and/or need in a widget like this? Of course, a widget that worked correctly and respected copyrights and provided links back to the owners
- Sean Connelley
side note - the power of FF! This would have not gotten visibility on FB due to the way privacy works over there
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Sean, Yes this is a very cool idea, as long as you respect copyrights. It is a great way to croudsource news, as long as your not outsourcing your photographers.
- MikeDeal / ZoneDancer
@Jeff: truth is, this has nothing to do with the power of FF. @Brian: asked and answered. @Sean: it looks to be fixed now, if a bit sparse.
- Anthony Citrano
Sean, absolutely see value in a widget like this and am actually impressed by the ways that the L.A. Times is embracing social media. You guys are ahead of the curve in that regard.
- Thomas Hawk
Anthony -- I'm glad that it is now working correctly and again apologize for the inconvenience I caused you and other flickr users. Unfortunately, the results now are a little discouraging but I what can you do. I'm just happy that it is working correctly now and learned a pretty good lesson from this. I'm going to try to expand my search tags to see if it helps bring in more content...
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- Sean Connelley
Crikey Dave, I think that's the first post of yours I've 100% agreed with in ages :)
- Ian Betteridge
Ian -- I've noticed we're agreeing more and more. Something weird is going on. :-)
- Dave Winer
we have a rule .. at the firehall ,, never call someone an a--hole ... until they prove it too you ..
- johnpiercy
I wish this could fit on a bumper sticker, I'd put one on each of my vehicles (and I hate bumper stickers!). Well said Dave.
- jcunwired
It was my understanding that the Obama Hitler signs were from the LaRouche PAC folks
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Dave, if we carry on agreeing it will be like matter and anti-matter meeting - could be the end of the universe! Let's find something to disagree on, just to keep everyone safe ;)
- Ian Betteridge
best part is the intro "dear family and friends..." ZOMG! it's like we have sekrit powerz of computer mastery and now this xkcd dood is blowin all our sekrits. Oh, wait. I WANTED those minutes and hours back that went into volunteer tech support. KTHX. It's a win.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Almost like clock work at this point...
- Patrick
from iPhone
Yeah, just as I'm in the midst of trying out http://backupmytweets.com/ -- how meta can you get? Herein is the reason why you MUST back up yr tweets, and it's currently impossible to do so because of 503 message....
- Susan A. Kitchens
I love it when Shari asks me random questions unrelated to the share. :) Google Talk is a fine, light, chat program that works within GMail. I don't use it for stand-alone IM or calls, but can see why some people would.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I have this mole on the back of my left buttcheek...
- Johnny Worthington
You're not related to Lewis Black? How about Louie White? You three could go on tour: the Monochromes !
- DGentry
@DGentry LOL; Louis - how was he - any new material?
- Stuart Miniman
Stu, he was quite good. It's interesting to see him in a full 45-60 minute stint, compared to the "Back In Black" stuff he does on Comedy Central. While he touched on the healthcare debates and mocked Democrats and Republicans, he didn't get overly political. He joked about aging, following Vince Gill and Amy Grant at a previous stop, and told everyone who used Twitter to go F off, saying that if you're chronicling your life, you're not living it.
- Louis Gray
Lewis Black has these crazy wiggly fingers. I can never tell what he's doing with his hands during his shtick.
- Phil G
Saw Cindy Lauper there. Its a beautiful event.
- Santa CW™
Leaning Into the Wind. A stunning oral history of women who "work the land." Found amid rubble of huge PSU book fair. It's on google books! - http://twitter.com/carolin...
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