That's wine-soaked shitake and red onion, on a hickory smoked turkey patty covered in pepperjack & sharp cheddar, on a sesame seed buN (LOL @Amanda) slathered in garlic tahini. My inspiration: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Admiral Anika
I totally did and snorted coffee LOL
- Mona Nomura
Next time forget Five Guys...I'm headed to One Gal.
- Mark Krynsky
Looks nummy. I miss turkey here in France. I don't know whats up w/ the french, I can get turkey in India, but not France ;-(
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Lindsay
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah Wittman
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy>
- Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81)
- Micah Wittman
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah Wittman
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah Wittman
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF?
- Jason Huebel
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is.
- Jason Huebel
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too.
- Jason Huebel
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Thanks Paola, Michael, Artemko, J. and Daniel!
- Micah Wittman
1.09 (9990/9105) From and including: Saturday, April 26, 2008 To and including: Thursday, November 12, 2009 It is 566 days from the start date to the end date, end date included Or 1 year, 6 months, 18 days including the end date to reach 10,000 comments.
- Christopher Harley
Serious answers please! I mean comments like "freetards!" or "We HAVE to pay for software" aren't serious — Also, gentle discussions between commenters are very welcome! Please be nice, cool and helpful - I'd really appreciate it :)
- directeur
I tried it. It had a horrible learning curve and very little community support for those trying to run Linux on Mac hardware.
- Spidra Webster
Spidra, I run Linux on macs :) Can I help? Also, I actually think that you probably tried some years ago, didn't you?
- directeur
I do is certain situations. For example, I have a service offering that integrates the Asterisk PBX. I am mostly MS on the desktop.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
from iPhone
I did for a short time. I had no compelling reason to stay with it.
- Internet's Tad
Thanks, Erid, I'm editing my post for "Desktop" and "Workstations"
- directeur
Yes - I use Linux and Open source for all my backend servers at the school I work at. Its all LAMP and its all AWS. This includes blogs, moodle, streaming media (a and v), and other support systems I need to run my section of the school. I can't imagine using anything else right now.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I do from shitty FAT flash drives that die after awhile. It was also on the home computer until my dad demanded his Micro$oft back. If I'm allowed to keep this laptop I'm using now, I'm going to do a format C:/ first thing and get some Debian on
- Schadenfreude
I thought linux was open source (bows out cuz i'm clueless.)
- MicahBear78
Yeah, I was trying back in 2000 or so. Before OS X. I think people who like tinkering are fine with Linux. I just want my computer to WORK. I used to be a Mac power user back in OS 9 days and troubleshot stuff and did tech support. I'm tired of it. I just want to get shit done.
- Spidra Webster
Micah, duh! I meant other open source softawre beside Linux, Like BSD and other apps (not kernel)
- directeur
Linux because that's what I'm used to.
- Bruce Lewis
I use gnu/linux/open-source-software for my work and personal needs. Linux is awesome. Especially it's fast and stable for my development needs. (PHP, Python/Django.)
- Emre Yılmaz
Linux is great and all but it is still too complex for the average user,
- Hunter
It just didn't do anything for me. I'm more comfortable in Windows and OSX. I make a living writing software on the .NET framework. I toyed with Ruby on Rails for a while, and learned a lot, but I also learned that I could only make about half of what I'm making as a c# developer... I just have no need for Linux.
- Internet's Tad
I don't use Linux on the desktop because I don't consider gimp to be a sufficient replacement for Photoshop. That's the deal breaker. There are also other similar reasons that are less important.
- Jason Wehmhoener
On the server I am quite fond of BSD, debian, and Solaris.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I haven't found anything lacking in my OSX experience that I thought linux would have. I had considered a mythTV box for a while but boxee and plex have negated that need too.
- dthree
Yes, everywhere...except my macbook pro at home
- Bill Scherer
Yep, always, I use Linux on two flavours, Suse and Ubuntu. Unices in general are for people who value more broad networks and sharing to personal station and copyrights.
- Thierry Lhôte
Not on the desktop. I like playing games.
- Rodfather
i use for some reason like most security softwares (offensive security) work perfect on linux. and the desktops of linux? extremely cool =] on the other hand, i love graphical design stuffs and it's kinda meditation for me but most softwares i need does not work on linux yet. at least, not properly. also my graphic tablet does not work on linux. i can use it as a mouse but as a drawing tool i need pen pressure sensitivity and it does not work on linux. too bad =\
- emre dede ve haremi
I downloaded Ubuntu and installed it as dual boot with Vista, on a new Dell PC (with 2 hard drives). no issues.
- Mike Nencetti
Of course. It's the only environment I've seen that I can optimize to my workflow, rather than vice-versa. It's simpler, better-engineered, and far more customizable. Sadly, the graphics stack is sub-par as are most of the games, so for play I still have to use Windows.
- i80and
Mac is cool, Windows 7 is cool, but not fresh because overloaded with things and blahblah design we do not need for communication. Linux is still staying "fresh" even after hours of use. So LInux is best for intellectual work I presume.
- Thierry Lhôte
I use Linux Mint almost exclusively at home (I only boot Windows to sync my iPhone, my kids' iPod Touches and my Zune - the iPod Nano and the Creative Zen get synced from Linux). I boot XP in VirtualBox occasionally to check things in IE6 or to use MS Office. I use quite a bit of other open-source software (free and paid). I am a big advocate of open-source and Linux. As long as I can...
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- Curtiss Grymala
I love me some Linux and Open Source. Why? Transparency, mainly. Plus the software is usually super streamlined and as a consequence is not very resource intense. And I really love running at like 5% processor power.
- Miss Elle
Doh! My own answer! :) I use Linux (Debian Lenny) - I'm a kind of minimalist, I don't like to have to use gazzilions of apps (though linux haz dem too) But what I like more is that I am _aware_ of what's in my machine. I can do mostly anything that people do on other OSes (Now by anything I mean: do not compare apps, compare how we work and results of apps uses) And often I'm more...
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- directeur
Results aren't the only thing that matters. Efficiency is important as well when you are being paid by the hour. So is the ability to share files with colleagues. You can't completely dismiss the importance of apps.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, that's it actually (Posted my edit before) Sharing is easy for me. Why would it be hard?
- directeur
I like the Apps and U/X on OS X desktop much better, but you know that already.
- Cristo
directeur, I have some pretty complex PSDs. Can you edit them and send them back to me without messing them up?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Yes, I know Cristo :) yet you still have the power of the CLI too on OSX
- directeur
Yup, I use both, and ssh into a Linux server too. It's all good. I can imagine wanting to run Linux locally if you wanted to perfectly emulate your server on your desktop, but BSD on OS X is good enough for anything I need to do in that respect.
- Cristo
Jason - you're absolutely right about the fact that Photoshop is much more powerful than any alternatives. However, you've also contradicted yourself by using PSD files as an example. Can you share those complex PSD files with your clients? Most likely not. You said being able to share was most important for you, but then you cited a proprietary format that is not available to the majority of computer users (no matter their operating systems).
- Curtiss Grymala
Curtiss, if Jason and I wanted to work on the same PSD file, that would be sharing too, no? Giving files to clients is what Exporting and Save As is for.
- Cristo
Cristo - If directeur and I wanted to share the same XCF file, that would be sharing, too, no?
- Curtiss Grymala
I'd also like to answer for my Mom -- She loves Linux now that I've installed it on her desktop. I know her reason would be, "Because it just works." as the Puppy Linux LiveCD worked right off the boot-up and came with all the apps she ever wanted (well ... minus Skype ... but Gizmo was a good replacement). Also, she doesn't have to worry about malware, which consumed too many of her brain cycles.
- Miss Elle
Cristo, I think he means openness. Why would you expect everyone to own a copy of photoshop or whatever? Moreover, I think the Gimp can import PSD files too
- directeur
I did say "colleagues" and not "clients". I frequently share source format files with colleagues. (Colleagues who would laugh if I suggested they open an XCF using Gimp in order to do hourly paid design work)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Curtiss, not many design shops not using Photoshop or Fireworks. directeur, I'm pretty sure Jason and I are on the same page with this.
- Cristo
Jason what's laughable about it? I run a business and we all use Inkscape and the Gimp :/
- directeur
The Boyfriend does not line OpenSource. He's a total MacFanboi. His reason against the FLOSS were that he wanted the perceived status that comes with owning Apple products. Well marketed, Apple. Well marketed, indeed. Especially since OS X looks an awful lot like Ubuntu. (I assume it is different under the hood.)
- Miss Elle
Lots of gimp forum posts about errors with PSD files. directeur, you aren't working with my teammates.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@directeur - GIMP can import PSD though some of the blends don't import quite right.
- Miss Elle
Heh, thanks for the input Miss Elle! Linux doesn't have that kind of marketing, alas (or not?)
- directeur
The fact of the matter remains, though, that a lot of the "shareability" depends entirely on what you do for a living. I can share PHP files with anyone, no matter what system they're using or which editor they're working with because it's an open standard. However, you can only share PSD files with other colleagues that use Photoshop. For that matter, if you have CS4 and you use all of...
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- Curtiss Grymala
You know what's interesting? OS X includes a LOT of open source code.
- Jason Wehmhoener
If you think Linux looks like OS X, or that design shops use GIMP, then you aren't doing any pro design work.
- Cristo
Cristo you're definitely wrong! That's a genral statement by someone who apparently doesn't use this app a lot
- directeur
This is really kind of a silly discussion.
- Cristo
The GIMP is terrible at importing PSD files (especially with layers). However, PhotoShop isn't even capable (at least, out-of-the-box) of importing an XCF file. For that matter, it can't even import a PSP file, but Paint Shop Pro can fairly reliably import PSD files (it will rasterize vector elements, though - not implying that PSP is open-source, though).
- Curtiss Grymala
I really like the BSD license, because it allows open source code to live in harmony with commercial efforts. And ya, the conversation is kinda silly.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Well, let's be productive :) :re the conversation
- directeur
No...You can't run Office on *NIX and for me that's a non-starter.
- Alex Scoble
directeur, point us at a sample design of an entity that does most of their work in GIMP.
- Cristo
Alex, we're not talking about apps, but about what you want to do and how to do it
- directeur
I agree, directeur. Here's something productive for you - What does Adobe inDesign offer that's not available in Scribus? Very little. In fact, AFAIK, the only thing it doesn't offer that you can find in InDesign is a PMS matching system.
- Curtiss Grymala
I also think the BSD/Apache licenses are vastly superior to GPL and it's copyleft offshoots.
- Cristo
@Cristo - Though a LinuxLover at heart, I'll be the first to suggest that designers should use Apple. Apple seems to really nail the creative niche with its power to support graphic design, music, and movie softwares. I think there is enough room in the software world for a right fit for every need kind of thing and I'm not sure that Apple is always the right fit. Nor is Windows. Nor is Linux.
- Miss Elle
Cristo, I bet any opensource community does... anyway. I'd like to focus of what people need to do and how they achieve it, comparing apps is well, just silly
- directeur
Open source community projects generally suck at U/X design, particularly in the visual area. Sorry to be harsh, but it's the truth.
- Cristo
You put MacPorts on OSX and you can build and run most open source apps. You can run X11 on OSX as well though its not exactly blazing fast. I have Mac, Linux and Windows boxes, Mac is best of most worlds so its my desktop now, Windows is for games, still have a Linux box I use remotely. I grew up on Unix and fled to Linux very early. Just got tired of Gnome/KDE nonsense, drivers not working right, especially audio. Open source just struggles doing desktop, GUI, Audio and consistent apps.
- Ed Millard
There are actually a lot of design firms that use open-source tools to do their work. The overwhelming majority of artwork for major open-source projects (linux builds, etc.) is done with open-source tools. They don't all suck, Cristo. If they did, Windows and Mac wouldn't steal UI elements from Linux (yes, it works the other way, too, I know).
- Curtiss Grymala
Miss Ellie, I agree. Linux is particularly good as a server OS or as a desktop that is doing server development.
- Cristo
Why? because they don't look eye-candied à la Apple? Cristo?
- directeur
I always thought X had something to do with UX issues in unix-land. programming for X seems complex compared to UI programming on windows and OS X.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Although there are toolkits that would seem to help...
- Jason Wehmhoener
Cristo, heh :) We will never agree, I think.
- directeur
I use linux for my main computer. I also use Android for my mobile. I try and use open sourced projects whenever possible too.
- Kevin Mohr
UX stands for user experience. UI stands for user interface. UX has nothing to do with the X window environment.
- Curtiss Grymala
Seriously, guys, let's be productive tell me about usability. Not how cool apps look, My desktop (I don't have an actual desktop) is a black screen, no panels, no buttons, no menus, not even a wallpaper, nothing! and I do everything I need to do
- directeur
Android is Apache 2, the superior license.
- Cristo
I always thought the Windows 95-esque GUI for Linux was because most of the apps are written by coders who, as code monkies, aren't very visually oriented individuals
- Miss Elle
Miss Elle, I agree, and I wondered "why aren't some visually oriented individuals improving the situation?" and I think it's because it takes too much damn code to make a Linux UI.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Curtiss, I'm not sure Jason was implying there was a connection, other than the X windowing server may be used to implement the Linux user experience.
- Cristo
Miss Elle - what desktop environment and window manager are you using with linux? Not everything resembles Windows 95. In fact, KDE has a very slick look, especially when combined with the right window manager.
- Curtiss Grymala
directeur, i do a lot of things that cannot be done via CLI. Sorry, it's just a fact.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Linux UI? Please stop these idées-reçues! The Linux desktop has changed since the 90's a LOT! @Jason, I'm using X with ratpoison, not only the CLI :)
- directeur
I'm never going to use an acronym for "user experience" again. gah.
- Jason Wehmhoener
directeur, you're correct. I'm not going to switch from using OS X, which I love to use., to using Linux which I find amateurish from a U/X point of view. I'm not suggesting anyone stop using Linux as their desktop either.
- Cristo
Cristo, that's your right and you have answered your and this thread's question :) — "amateurish" is not an answer. It's a statement. Don't expect me to agree, think whatever you want :)
- directeur
Nothing I say is ever meant to be anything other than my opinion, unless I claim it as fact. :)
- Cristo
I use windows and some open source software. Why because I'm familiar with windows tools,and used visual studio for years- I got sick of makefiles for complex library builds, dependencies, etc
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Sorry for the misunderstanding, Jason. I thought you were implying that the "X" in UX was the problem, and relating that to the X graphic environment. My fault. Also, as I mentioned, I agree with you guys about PhotoShop (and I feel the same way about MS Office), but I was just trying to point out that you can't dismiss things out-of-hand just because you don't use them.
- Curtiss Grymala
I am using Gnome one one machine and KDE on the other. And while I've found ways to apply beautiful themes, that still doesn't save AbiWord or Blender or Gxine or Mplayer or a host of other apps interfaces which are stuck somewhere between Win95 and Win3.1. kPDF, on the other hand, does a good job, I think.
- Miss Elle
Curtiss, I actually think it's really cool that some folks use open source exclusively for design. I'm actually a little jealous, but my priorities are such that I can't get hung up on it. I use the tools I need to use to work with the people I want to work with.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Not sure I would say its amatuerish, inconsistent is probably a better word. There just aren't good standards and its to easy for open source coders to wander all over the map designing inconsistent UI, inconsistent hotkeys, drag and drop integration not working right etc. Apple has Interface Builder which is a dream to develop UI in, its why their apps tend to be consistent and good. If you stay within in Gnome or KDE apps the inconsistency isnt so bad but its just not as good as OSX.
- Ed Millard
For a really long time (pre vista) I had a dual boot of xp and freeBSD. I used windows for school projects where i was just too busy and lazy to work with programs that said they were Office/win compatible, but came out garbled on my un-computer friendly professor's pc. But I also remember every time I had a final paper due, win would crap out and I'd have to go into the linux partition...
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- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
That I understand, Miss Elle. As Ed just mentioned, it's more about inconsistency, actually. Depending on the apps you use, you can find the same phenomenon among closed-source, paid applications in Windows.
- Curtiss Grymala
Someone should make an open source Interface Builder like app.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I don't know enough about Glade to compare it to IB. Has anyone else used both?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason - I completely understand. I am fortunate enough to have CS4 for work, but if it wasn't provided, I'd have no choice but to use free, open-source apps, as there's no way I could afford to buy CS4 out of my own pocket. That's why I try to keep up to date with those apps (in case I ever end up at a different job without CS4 at my disposal). Granted, I'm not a designer, but I do have to work with designers regularly.
- Curtiss Grymala
I think Qt/KDE has an interface designer but I haven't used it enough to say how good it is. Apple did just about everything right in Interface Builder. As long as Linux has so many different desktops, window managers, audio API's, GUI toolkits its just not going to be very friendly to app developers or your average end user. The whole KDE versus GNOME thing really messes it up as a desktop OS and makes it too fragmented.
- Ed Millard
@Curtiss -- I've noticed that, too. Again I think it is a case of "good coder, bad at GUI", but that OpenSource seems to encourage everyone to code it if they can think it. Whereas for the closed source operating systems there is typically a team working on the software and one member of the team is usually a GUI designer. When it is a volunteer team, as I've seen often with FLOSS, there is not that guarantee of a GUI designer having an input.
- Miss Elle
That's absolutely true, Miss Elle. As independent coders/developers, it can be extremely difficult to find designers that are willing to work for free. If we can't monetize our product (which is entirely possible with open-source, it's just extremely rare), we can't pay a designer. That's why we generally end up designing things ourselves (note - I am not a desktop application developer, I am a Web app developer, but the principle still applies).
- Curtiss Grymala
I had a flirting with Unix/Linux when I was in high-school. Then I got my first programming job and it was on Windows... And from that point on it was Windows. It's just what most corporate businesses environments use for the kind of applications that I write. So it makes sense for me to use Windows and not Linux. And I'm more comfortable doing so. I see no reason to switch.
- Lindsay
(Should be inserted into the discussion, above.) In all fairness to Scribus, when I was Yearbook Adviser (I'm a teacher), we did our entire yearbook in Scribus and it looked just as good as the Adobe InDesign books. I turned out a whole staff of 30 kiddos trained in Scribus who are still using Scribus to this day. (I left that school for another that already had a Yearbook Adviser.)
- Miss Elle
Lindsay, why "switch"? Why not use and exepriement, maybe you'll be able to do different tasks better on an OS or another — I mean, give things a try. Or aren't you interested at all? :)
- directeur
Yes. I use Crunchbang on the Old Beast (desktop). I have used Linux Mint and Ubuntu previously. Linux seems to work better on the older machine than XP does.
- Steven Perez
I don't use Linux, but I do use a lot of open source software (esp., Firefox, GIMP, OpenOffice).
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I do enjoy some of the shared freedom of open source, and web programming. I'm not trapped by 14 years of libraries and portability issues with scala, php or other platform independent tools. I've heard scala/java is actually competitive with c++ for some numerical applications but I have yet to witness this first hand (it's always been slower in my experience)
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I use Ubuntu on most machines - my PC and HTPC at home, and my laptop at work. At home I mostly use Firefox, Pidgin and GIMP with UFRaw (which I find perfectly adequate for my personal photography). At work I do software design and development, with Evolution for accessing email from Exchange, and Java and Eclipse as the dev environment. Most of the team has switched over to Ubuntu in recent months because it's faster and more stable than Windows for the work we're doing.
- Edward Coffey
Thanks to this thread, I'm going to check out Scribus.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@directeur -- Not that you asked, but one of the things I'm doing to help the FLOSS movement is writing non-technical guides or tutorials for how to do basic functions on the software I use. I find that there is a general lack of 8th-grade-level documentation for programs which is why most people aren't adventurous. And it is a small way of giving back since I am not an artist nor a...
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- Miss Elle
Glad it helped, Jason! Folks, I really appreciated that this thread didn't turn into a flame war. Thanks a lot! :)
- directeur
I started using Linux around '98. It was fun. I tried a lot of different distros. However, I ended up working in a Microsoft world and began to focus on just using MS. While futzing around and rebuilding my OS was entertaining, I stopped doing that when I also got into gaming. Didn't have the space or money to run dual boot or multi-machines and by the time I did well... my only foray...
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- Arlan Koizumi
Yay! As someone who started out using Pagemaker 4 (and then onto 6.5, then to InDesign), I can say that Scribus is extremely impressive. Also, I felt I should clarify my statement about MS Office earlier. MS Word is really the only Office component I think is much better than open-source alternatives. The rest of Office is either matched or exceeded by open-source software.
- Curtiss Grymala
Miss Elle, I HIGHLY respect people like you! Code is a good thing, "educating" people is better IMHO. Thanks for all your work!
- directeur
That's awesome and enviable, Miss Elle. I've been tempted to do the same, but never really had enough ambition to follow through.
- Curtiss Grymala
StarOffice was awesome. I loved it. I tried getting into GIMP but man, it took a while (and still does >_>).
- Arlan Koizumi
I like Eclipse too. That is a great open source app. Doubt many Windows developers use and it unfortunately doesn't do Objective C yet so its not good for Cocoa development on iPhone and Mac yet. If you do Java or C/C++ its awesome across Linux, Mac and Window.
- Ed Millard
@Arlan -- StarOffice was awesome. I actually really like OO.o 3.x series. I feel like it is getting back to what I wanted from an office suite. Have you checked it out lately?
- Miss Elle
Open Office is great, it just fails too often if you have to exchange writable docs with people using Word, or at least is has every time I've used it, the formatting always gets mess up, though maybe I'm a bad doc writter. If you just need to produce PDF's it is great.
- Ed Millard
Miss Elle, I might have but it would've been in the Neo Office conversion for Mac. There were a few things that bugged me. I haven't installed much on my Eee PC since getting Ubuntu on there as I mainly used it for social network monitoring, but I'll be sure to give it a looksie.
- Arlan Koizumi
For docs, call me an idiot, an old guy or anything, but I think that LaTeX is a very good choice. It's the perfect app which clearly separates content from the form/style. OpenOffice and MS Office do that too, but I really do think that documents rendered with LaTeX are superior in quality. Let alone the ease of exchange, we're talking about simple text files which can be edited anywhere with anything
- directeur
I had problems in Neo Office with docs with complex layouts (like my resume) but regular letters translated perfectly between NO and Word. Oh yeah, heard good stuff about LaTex but never tried it.
- Arlan Koizumi
Until OOO properly supports comments and tracked changes, I will still not be able to use it regularly (we use tracked changes for everything at work, and they are an extremely useful feature). I would love to, but I just can't without support for tracked changes.
- Curtiss Grymala
Holden, I guess your professor expects a printed doc, right? Also, if you can make your professor smarter, do it! You know in almost any good university some profs often require thesis rendered with LaTeX :)
- directeur
As my last word on this subject for the night, you guys should check out http://zwopper.deviantart.com/gallery... While they are all wallpapers, Zwopper does all of his artwork exclusively in the GIMP, and actually does a pretty nice job with quite a few of them.
- Curtiss Grymala
@directeur -- My problem with LaTeX was that I never could get it to render into PDF and could never find useful documentation written for my understanding level.
- Miss Elle
Miss Elle, that should be easy actually, do you have pdflatex?
- directeur
I don't have nearly as much patience for dicking around with my computer as I used to. Windows works, and when it doesn't, I know how to make it work. i've taken time to learn some linux things, but I just don't have time/patience
- Richard Lawler
I've been using Linux as my primary desktop and development environment for a decade now. I could never use Mac OS X or Windows as my primary environment any more. They just don't feel right to me. Linux installs are easier than Windows installs for me and trouble shooting is easier. Some things don't work for me now that I wish did (like using my bluetooth headphones), but everything...
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- Travis B. Hartwell
I use Linux on my home workstation. At work, I use it also as my main workstation, OSX on my laptop, and centos/redhat for the production servers. I'm a big supporter of open source.
- imabonehead
Mac OS X didn't really exist a decade ago (unless you used a NeXT machine). It's more honest to just say you're not interested in exploring it or that refined U/X is not the most important issue for you.
- Cristo
U/X is not good for me on OS X. There's something -- hard to pinpoint -- I don't know, "fussy" about the UI. I don't like it. I don't care how "refined" it is, or how much usability testing it's a product of.
- Christopher A Carr
No argument that it's not for everyone. But using it doesn't mean you don't appreciate Unix or open source either.
- Cristo
Ed: I've spent many hours on OS X. I'm used to it. To be "used to" OS X isn't necessarily to love the OS X UI, as Cristo might assume to be the case...
- Christopher A Carr
I do Ubuntu. Plus I run a whole lot of open source software on Windows. I even like how the Wine compatibility layer allows me to run my Windows programs under Linux (there's a script called winetricks that imports your existing Windows programs' settings into the Wine registry, allowing you to run them without having to reinstall). I was going to triple boot my Dell with FreeDOS, but it (the Dell) is powerful enough that I can just run it emulated under either Windows or Linux.
- Dennis Jernberg
Cristo: I get the impression that you suppose that OS X's UI is so wonderful, that if one doesn't care for it, they must simply not be familiar with it. ...just a guess on my part.
- Christopher A Carr
This is a linux house for everything but the direct-tv dvr (which may also be linux for all I know), and we are using Ubuntu as the distro of choice. Well, more like that's what I installed, so that's what everyone is using.
- Grant Bierman
Christohper, no, I don't assume that. You might have mistaken my response to another commenter as meaning that though. I've seen UI disagreements since the early 80s, so I have no illusions about people having different tastes and biases. In fact, arguments for or against things like the menu bar at the top of the Mac desktop vs menus on windows as many other UIs have grown very...
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- Cristo
Yes, I use FLOSS. No, Linux is not my primary OS
- LANjackal
I use GNU/Linux because my work is done on a computer and I need a reliable operating system for that. Another reason is that my OS (I'm using ubuntu) is out-of-the-box, everything works (internet, printer, etc). Third reason, I can adapt my OS to my needs. Fourth reason, I like to keep my options open and GNU/Linux allows me to have all my contents in open formats, this way I feel more secure about accessing those contents in the future.
- paula simoes ☃
Everything I've heard tells me that macs are great,I'd love one. But I simply can't afford one that's recent enough to have the capabilities I want. So I dual boot Windows and Mint. Similarly I'm sure Photoshop CS4 is better than GIMP, but for a home user it's ridiculously expensive. The latest versions of Elements and PSP also cost more than I'm able to spend (it's that or prints). It's all as simple as that. As WINE improves the advantages of paying for Windows are decreasing as well.
- grraargh
@grraargh I had a mac, some years ago, I had so many problems (mostly hardware) I decided to never have a mac again
- paula simoes ☃
well, i've been running free software only, specially gnu/linux for about 11 years,since i get in touch with it when i was working on Lisbon Expo98 world fair; they were using it as mail and web server and it really worked so well that i thought that i had to try (they were using red hat 5.0/5.2) since i like to be different ;) i choose to install SuSE; but what i really liked was it's philosophy, since than i'm a huge fan of Free Livre Software. My favorite Distro, Debian :)
- ovigia
Sometimes..! I like Microsoft Applications usually.
- ★ Soner Gönül
I do. GNU/Linux is simply the most powerful OS out there, and that's the main reason. Besides, I prefer free software because it's the best software model there is :-)
- Marcos Marado
I have been using it for the better part of 9 years. When I first started using it I loved that you really had to get your hands dirty to make every thing to work just right. At the time I thought of it (FreeBSD 4.6) as the most stable programing platform and things like writing my own CVS file and compiling a Kernel for sound were a lot of fun. Later as I started playing with Linux...
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- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Linux is my primary OS. It's the PC that runs my Livingroom entertainment center and my family has adapted to it very well. My wife uses it to surf and handle business and my kids uses it to play games and watch movies...I use it to blog :)
- Anthony Farrior
Use Ubuntu and test out its alphas/betas almost every day.
- Manuel Mas
My HP laptop has some horrible WiFi problems that lead the machine to lock up. I successfully fixed it on Vista and I haven't been able to make it work on Linux yet. I run a Linux VM for development so I'm happy enough.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes both at work and at home - Ubuntu for desktop and laptop. We use as much open source software as we can - Firefox, Opera, DeskNow, OpenOffice.org, Gimp, Joomla and MaiaCMS (our programmer wrote & release to os community), Our close to 300 public computers are also running a version of Linux (http://groovix.com/) - why? Because we believe in giving our customers the best but also...
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- Mlibrarianus
@Mlibrarianus little correction: Opera is not open source, as well as DeskNow.
- Artemko
started learning linux years ago after finding webhosts were cheaper than winnt, and got some personal servers running with debian since it seemed compatible with most any old hardware. now using ubuntu for desktop since it includes recent software versions, and installation and upgrading are a breeze. for anyone that thinks linux desktop looks bad, check out screen shots of the latest visual options http://personal.utulsa.edu/~stuart...
- Mike Chelen
I use linux at home and work. Ubuntu on my desktop and laptop.
- Necati Demir
I use Ubuntu on the desktop. Have been for several years now. The latest releases have smoothed out most of the user experience glitches, and hardware support mostly just works (it is now frequently the case that Linux supports hardware out-of-the-box where Windows requires a dodgy driver). I find OpenOffice sufficient for most of my needs re: an office suite, but frankly I don't use it...
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- Michael R. Bernstein
Again thank you all for your comments, folks! Really nice to see people with different OSes discuss this subject in such a civilised way! (Which -won't we all agree?- is a rare thing) :)
- directeur
I don't use linux because of software compatibility issues (most of my mission-critical apps would have to be reinstalled and there's no compelling reason to do so). I use tons of open source stuff in Windows XP, though. Probably 70% of the software I use is open source, just not the OS.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Don't remember if I commented or not (and I'm too lazy to dig through 150 comments), but I use Linux mainly on servers. I do have a desktop environment on most of them that I'll use on occasion (I'm partial to KDE). But for the most part, I don't use Linux on the desktop. I run Mac OSX primarily, with a bevy of Open Source apps: Adium, Firefox, Cyberduck, Colloquy and OpenOffice are just a few I use regularly.
- Jason Huebel
I always do a Ctrl-F search for "- You" to see if I'm in on a thread ;)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Jason, you'll know if you commented or not if it shows up in your My discussions, or if you liked it, whether it shows up in your comments.
- Cristo
I'm browsing the Best of Day list. I didn't "Like", but sometimes I forget to.
- Jason Huebel
I run an Ubuntu VM on my macbook pro, but OSX is the primary desktop. On the server, it's Linux all the way. Love open source, but like OSX more.
- Deepak Singh
@directeur - just saw your response to my comment and to answer your question: I have so many side projects and things going on with Windows development I don't have the time or energy to devote to the learning curve of another OS. Basically I can't even stand OSX and get majorly frustrated whenever I have to do anything on Tad's or Avynn's Macs, so I figure Linux is out of the...
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- Lindsay
This question is very much like asking why you live in a brick apartment building in the city rather than in a log cabin in the woods. My first computer ran Windows 98 and I got used to things being a certain way. My second computer ran WinME and had a very short life, so i took my WinME and installed it on the older computer (it's still running it, and quite stable, although painfully...
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- April Russo (app103)
April: thankfully though there is a standard method to install most any software in linux within a few minutes, for free, then have it automatically updated if you like it, or uninstall and move on to the next. there is a lot of good software available, gedit is one example (check out all the useful options if you haven't already), though finding which is best suited to you can take time
- Mike Chelen
None of the special purpose signmaking programs like Flexisign run under Linux, thus my workplace uses Windows. I tried Linux on my desktop, it offered me no advantage, and couldn't run the Hipihi, Novoking, or uWorld, or hardly any of the interesting software I read about. Inkscape, probably Linux's best vector illustration program, can't even use an eps file.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Why is twitter a better platform? Most of your followers only have one tweet, which means they're _listeners_. Finally, you can get a word in edgewise, and your ideas will be heard.
No other platform has as many documented listeners on it. Other sites claim it, but you can get up to 6 emails per day, or more, showing you that someone else with just one tweet has started following, bringing another obvious hardcore listener into your flock.
- Andy Bakun
you know, I haven't paid much attention to twitter lately, because, as I was discussing with a friend earlier; I once wished I could read minds, then twitter came along and told me what people were really thinking... Now I'm just glad I can't read people's minds because listening to people talk about themselves is annoying at best....
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
I wonder how many one-tweet bots are subscribed to other one-tweet bots.
- Andy Bakun
"It's been a Monty Python world lately -- and we're not even talking about the absurdity and silliness of current events, such as balloon boys and confessional celebrities. No, it's a Python world on TV, with the lads being showcased in an multipart IFC documentary -- which started this week -- and re-airing of their classic TV episodes and movies."
- Nurse Katie
from Bookmarklet
gunz, youz haz dee brewz. nowz youz gotz two choicez of whatz youz can dooz. itz notz a tough decision az you can see, i canz blow you awayz or youz can ridez wif me.
- Morgan Haley
So I am trying to figure out the best way for me to stream TV/Movies from my laptop to my TV wirelessly. How can I do this? I have a MacBook Pro, XBox 360 (wired to the router so far), PS3 (wired/wireless), Samsung TV (will get model # when I get home), as well as a Sharp Aquos TV in vicinity as well and a Wii. What can I do?? Help me. The most...
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- Amani
from IM
hmm...perhaps a network hard drive that streams? such as this: http://www.wdc.com/en.... FYI I zero experience with these things but I've been looking for a solution myself and also have a macbook pro.
- chrisofspades
that is ok chris. we can learn together. Alex - any ideas?? Where is carlos or Josh??
- Amani
from IM
first I need a new TV hehe. but I have a few more requirements out of a settop box than you do. also I don't a gaming console.
- chrisofspades
Hi Amani..here are two very simple choices for the PS3 + Mac..one is free...the other costs money. Free: PMS...give is a shot : http://code.google.com/p... the other is to use the NAS that i am using...WD ShareSpace..i have the 4TB model: http://www.wdc.com/en...
- Carlos Ayala
If you are just streaming movies off your MBP and they are h.264, the AppleTV is fine and relatively cheap. Plus, it basically sets itself up. The podcast was wrong.
- Kevin Pedraja
Carlos - wow, that is a nice looking machine. It doubles as a hard drive as well? Does it matter if I don't have a PC and just laptops? Also, what if I wanted to stream something to my TV upstairs (A Sharp Aquos TV) what else would I need? I am wondering if I have Direct TV DVR in my living room, can I stream something to my TV upstairs?
- Amani
from IM
careful with those external hard drives / "Home Network Storage " devices, even from WD...if they dont say DLNA certified..dont bother.
- Carlos Ayala
yes,,its a much more than a hard drive. its smart. its a true network storage device....it will automatically backup files...it comes RAID 5 out of the box for true redundancy...which means if a drive fails....put in another and it will rebuild itself.you mark a folder or folders on your computer and it will automatically back it up 24 hours a day. all your devices on your network can talk to it.
- Carlos Ayala
What is UpnP? (I am learning on the fly here). Carlos - Could my 360 and PS3 read things off the same device?
- Amani
@chrisofspades i plugged my WD into the network...ran the cd for the backup program....mark one folder for backups...turned on my PS3...and there it was. 5 minutes total. only because i decided to run the cd.
- Carlos Ayala
i can speak about the 360. i dont have one.
- Carlos Ayala
Upnp is Universal Plug and Play. Its designed to do what DLNA does. PlayON, for instance, is a upnp server. ive had issues with upnp. never with dlna.
- Carlos Ayala
sounds like WD has a couple of options: Sharespace that Carlos linked to and My Book World edition that I linked. only difference seems to be capacity.
- chrisofspades
@chrisofspades see my note above about DLNA and "Home Network Storage " devices
- Carlos Ayala
$800 for that device Carlos posted. Hmmm ... Seems like a nice one. I would love if this one could stream stuff to all my TV's in my home. Is that possible?
- Amani
from IM
Amani....give PMS a shot...its tricky to setup..but once its going its good. i stream stuff wirelessly from my macbook and mbp to it when i dont feel like turning on my windows workstation and running playon or tversity.
- Carlos Ayala
shop around for it Amani. i paid 450 for it.
- Carlos Ayala
@chrisofspades "TwonkyMedia" is just that twonky. i did not like it at all. the other two are $20 and $40 respectively. PMS works and its free. your mileage may vary
- Carlos Ayala
as far as streaming to all your TVs Amani, if you have a game console attached to each one, then conceivably it would work since they all seem to support DLNA/UPnP. except maybe the wii.
- chrisofspades
@Carlos haha. I'm just using google here. no personal experience with any of this.
- chrisofspades
$450 ... hmm... that is pretty good. Carlos - can it help me with all my TV's?
- Amani
from IM
only if you have a ps3 connected to it as far as i know Amani
- Carlos Ayala
@chrisofspades i know i am just putting it out there. not dissing you or anything. its all good man.
- Carlos Ayala
i need to go take care of a few things..i will try to make it to tonights show..we can chat then if not DM me whenever you want or just post here and i will follow up. Good luck fellas.
- Carlos Ayala
who said anything about dissing? *looks around* I just mentioned that cuz your view is more valid since you have experience w/ it
- chrisofspades
thanks carlos. i will do more research and get back to you. Anyone else other there with ideas/tips.? this is great so far
- Amani
from IM
Amani, video of the WD My Book World Edition working on the 360: http://www.wdc.com/global.... I *think* that you would get the same thing out of the ShareSpace.
- chrisofspades
and Carlos says it works flawlessly on the PS3. sounds good to me.
- chrisofspades
so in addition to this, it sounds like I need to have a device hooked up to each TV to stream to it, right? Can a device be something else besides a gaming device?
- Amani
from IM
yes, you would need some type of device, and I assume any device that supports DNLA or UPnP would work. not sure what other devices do, though.
- chrisofspades
gotta run but I'll be back in here later.
- chrisofspades
I have Connect360 installed but haven't tested it out with the 360 yet, But both EyeConnect (have had it installed a long time) and PS3 Media Server (just installed and tested it) run fine on the Mac and access is clean from the PS3. You'll get better quality going direct from your laptop to TV (and less software and protocol hassles). With the little testing I've done, PS3 Media Server (free) is more configurable and less finicky than EyeConnect ($).
- LogEx
In general, the PS3 will be more friendly to the Mac due to the emphasis on MPEG4 / h.264 support on both platforms. But you do need to consider where your content is coming from, i.e., what format(s) are your movies in? Mac Handbrake is great for converting movies into h.264, with settings for AppleTV, PS3, etc. One drawback to a network disk is that you'll presumably process movies on...
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- LogEx
I don't know about TV. But to stream movies to the TV, I stream movies/music to my PS3 through Vuze. Works like a dream. Sorry if somebody already suggested this.
- Kamath (नमः)
My older macbook came with an adapter that I use for my projector and my TV. Did they stop including this? It works for streaming and anything on my mac. I just went through this for a friend I sold my monitor and tv to, I'll see if I can dig up the links.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Here is a link to the TV I have. http://www.samsung.com/us... Samsung LN 52B750. Says the tv is DNLA certified if that helps. Any other ideas?
- Amani
An AppleTV will work with all kinds of content if you add Boxee
- Robert Hafer
So Robert if I get an Apple TV say for my TV in the bedroom(upstairs), could I stream stuff that is on my Network (Direct TV DVR, or my MacBook Pro, PS3 or Xbox 360) that is all downstairs? And Josh - sweet TV, no? Do you stream any stuff to it?
- Amani
Yes, the Boxee hack (a very easy hackhttp://forum.boxee.tv/forumdi... ) lets you identify where your media is and the play it. A fast wireless connection is required for smooth playback of HD content.
- Robert Hafer
Yeah the tv is amazing. I have been playing with DLNA options recently and the first thing I noticed is that the tv doesn't like to playback files hosted by anything but it's own Samsung dlna host software (on the disc I'd downloadable for free). Once I had that installed the treaming was not bad at all. BUT the whole playback interface and system that is built into the tv is pretty mediocre compared to the likes of xbmc. BUT it is a quick way to get things up and running, for sure.
- Josh Haley
unless Apple tv has changed to be able to display full 1080p, I don't think our podcast was wrong about it.
- Josh Haley
I am also wondering if I get the NAS Carlos described above and then use my old Acer laptop for upstairs with my bedroom TV, could that take care of streaming to that TV. That would avoid me having to purchase apple TV. Then I could use the PS3 to stream to the main Samsung TV and the X360 to stream to the Sharp TV in the adjacent room. Hmmm ... and now for the TV in the kitchen.......
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- Amani
Any dedicated computer directly attached to a TV will give you the best results / most options. Many free open source options are available.
- Robert Hafer
Chris (or anyone else), any other ideas? I have a Laptop I am getting reformatted to use with my upstairs TV. I am going to get the WD Sharespace for my entire network. Then I have PS3 for one TV, Xbox 360 for another TV and laptop for the 3rd tv. Makes sense right?
- Amani
Part 1 is complete. I have the laptop that has been successfully reformatted. Now I have to get the NAS (for cheap) and then tie everything together. Also need to figure out how to get my HD Direct TV DVR on this network.
- Amani
PS3 will give you the best HD picture of the equipment you mentioned above. I use it with a Buffalo NAS to stream to Samsung TV. It works great. Buffalo NAS also has direct BT download capability and I can stream movies from my NAS to my iPhone.
- Todd Bouey
Todd- How much space does your NAS have? I am trying to find a good deal on a 4TB one but have had bad luck so far ...
- Amani
I got the 4TB Linkstation Quad and although I bought it on sale at Fry's, out the door it cost about the same as it would have online. Ease of return however was a good thing since the 1st model I brought home was faulty. It works fine as a server and has an interface for both PC and Mac, some of the "features" don't work as well as one might like, but then I guess these are not core server functions so I'm not overly disappointed in this respect. Customer service is pretty spotty though.
- Todd Bouey
Looks like I am going to have to break down and pay $700 for mine. Can't find it online anywhere for cheaper. Maybe I can find a 10% off best buy coupon.
- Amani
It has arrived. I will be installing it shortly. Wish me luck.
- Amani
Right now - iPhone 2.somethinorother. I have OS X 10.5, Windows XP, Windows 7, and Ubuntu 9.04 all at my disposal in the other room.
- Aaron Hood
from BuddyFeed
Windows XP, but only because that is what came on this thing and I'm escared to completely format the drive.
- Joe Pierce
XP on netbook. Ubuntu 9.04, Android, and Windows 7 RC1 in VirtualBox on netbook. Windows 7 on desktop. Vista on work laptop. OSX on Macbook.
- Rodfather
ingilizce sormuşsun ,türkçe cevap vermişim :)) yorumları okuyunca farkettim ingilizce sorduğunu ,bir de diyorum ki içimden niye herkes ingilizce cevap vermiş :)
- ♪♫ halilinho de souza ♪♫
xp at work, vista and 7 at home, apple notebook. Windows CE on my phone, and I have an Ipod. Right now I am on XP, later on tonight I'll be on 7 and Apple.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dual-booted ubuntu and Win XP on the desktop. On the laptop is Ubuntu. I'm running Jaunty right now on both.
- Amy H.
One Ubuntu 9.04 32-bit, one Vista Enterprise SP1 64-bit
- Andy Kruger
Running Mac OS X 10.5.6 on a 2004 PowerBook 12" G4 - Have 10.5.6 on a Mac Mini, and MacBook as well
- Pilgrim Five
OS X 10.5.6 on my Mac Pro. OS X 10.6 on my MacBook. VMware ESX 3.5 with multiple VMs running Windows Server 2008 R2 RC, Windows 7 RC, FreeBSD 6.2 & 7.0 and FreeNAS 0.69. FreeBSD 7.2 on my colocation server.
- Peter Kruit
Let's see..computer #1; Windows Vista , Computer #2; Custom Windows Vista , Computer #3; Windows XP, Computer #4; Mac...something or other. I never use the Mac.
- Candace
Tiger. I think XP at work ... not sure.
- Laura Norvig
all 14-15 ubuntu except for 1 lone vista
- John Serra
TO many win xp users :) Though does virtualized o's count? :) Primarily Jaunty 9.04 but also have a previous windows server 2003 setup. @donor why upgrade to windows 7 at all look at the open source possibilities :)
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
EEEPC 900 Pardus, Toshiba A210-19D Win 7(vista upgrade), Desktop PC Win XP
- Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik
Windows Vista, but with many RDP sessions to Windows 2008 servers where I do most of my work.
- Pete Gilbert
OSX 10.5.6, Win7 and iPhone OS(X) 3.0.
- Thomas Bøhm
OSX 10.5.6 on 5 machines and I think we still have an Amiga 500 in the loft. Oh and an Acorn Electron. But we don't use those last two. Much. There are also a couple of XP machines gathering dust in the garage.
- Gilbert Harding
W7 RC, XP SP3, many flavors of linux. screw the mac os. I'm moving away from MacOS for coding/development. HATE DRM'd HW too. I will NOT be buying another product from Apple for a LONG LONG time I think.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Ubuntu 9.04 at work, Arch Linux at home, Windows XP on both laptops. Planning on upgrading to Win7 on the 'tops.
- Daniel Bruce
At home, Vista laptop + Gentoo server
- James Myatt
XP, but I miss Win98SE. Loved it. Would like to explore Linux. btw, I have an old Mac that works if anyone's a collector. Pay UPS (or whatever you choose) shipping and it's yours. DM me or email me @ infolode.com@gmail.com Keyboard, mouse, unit all there and working last time I booted it up.
- Molly
OS X on my Laptop, dual booting XP, Ubuntu Linux on my server, Android on my phone. :D
- Evan Travers
was quad booting osX 10.5.3, win vista, slackware linux, and backtrak3. and I just wiped and installed windows 7. and in a few months I will reinstall Slackware.
- Charles Rice
Jaunty Jackalope Ubuntu 9.04 with customized staff desktop menu (on work's laptop) - home still running Ubuntu but not Jaunty think it's still on 8 something
- Mlibrarianus
Home - Win Vista/Ubuntu (laptop) Win XP/Win 7 (desktop) Work - Win XP, Server 2003,
- Charles Dick
Windows Vista 32 and 64-bit SP2 (I have TechNet), Windows XP Pro 32-bit, Ubuntu 9.0.4 64-bit, OS X 10.5.6. Oh and Windows Home Server PP2. Need to check out Fedora 11 Preview. :) Forgot to add Windows 7 64-bit (on a laptop).
- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
W2K - Windows 2000 pro. It does all I need. Next will be some *nix + virtual machines.
- Markus Merz
Windows XP (upgraded from Windows Vista)
- Brian Massey
OS X Leopard with virtualized XP, plus a Vista box.
- Eric P
XP home and work - Could someone (Alp?) please turn this into a graph/chart of some form - would be really interesting to see this given the data in thus far.
- Graham Steel
OS X Leopard. It's the only way to fly. ;)
- Meryn Stol
Windows. I want to use Linux but not without a dedicated hard drive for it. I am not ever installing a boot loader on my primary hard disk's MBR again.
- Zed Darkman
XP and OSX Leopard, both home and work
- Sean O'Brien
Interesting that this comes up to the top again. Now I'm using OS X 10.5.7, funtoo (instead of gentoo), Ubuntu, Win7(rc), and the Vista that will not die. and about to try OSx86. :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Ubuntu Linux on my personal laptop, work desktop, home server, and my VPS. I'm running Debian Linux on the many thousand servers I help manage at work.
- Travis B. Hartwell
OS X Leopard on MacBook Pro and Ubuntu 9.04 on HP Mini netbook
- Travis Smith
Xubuntu and XP dualbooted on laptop. Xubuntu on 2 other desktops. Vista on another desktop and a laptop. ChromeOS, DSL, and Crunchbang on USB.
- Schadenfreude
I'm not very good at it either, but I am amazed by what I've picked up in just an afternoon. I can now read a lot Hindi. Something I never thought would happen to me. Still learning the double letters and dipthongs, but it's pretty straightfoward. Gonna practice more this weekend. I should feel comfortable enough for vocabulary words next week.
- Admiral Anika
i'm decent at romanic languages, and evidently I am decent at speaking Bengali (what I know) because I can copy accents pretty well, but the Sanskrit based script languages throw me for a loop. And yes I do know its perfectly phonetic, I just can't determine where one letter/concept begins/ends.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Whoo-hoo! Just got an email from my local library that this is in and waiting for me to pick up! Man, I wish they opened before 10am.
- Admiral Anika
I want to learn the ancient languages - Sanskrit and Pali if I can some day. I can read both but can't understand much.
- Kamath (नमः)
I had a religion's professor who knew Sanskrit. He was a go-to guy for translations and interpretations. That had always impressed me. Oh and he was hot. <shallow> Here's his wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Admiral Anika
lol I'm sure u found him hotter because he was a language geek. On my mother's side, most of the family is fluent in Sanskrit. An uncle would try to teach me when we visited but I never really paid attention at the time plus he would get me to wake up at 5 to do yoga and learn Sanskrit. I wish I had paid attention now though.
- Kamath (नमः)
LOL No, he was truly a hot man. And a surfer. *swoon* Anyway, I can see how being woken at 5am would make your resistant to learning. BTW, I just picked up this book from the library and it's TINY. It's like a little pocketbook.
- Admiral Anika
Hmm...that is tiny but it's a start! Maybe most of the lessons are delivered via the CD?
- Kamath (नमः)
My fluent Hindi speaker is leaving work today :( I've been thinking all during the time that I should learn.
- anna sauce
Anika this is v. cool btw. After Arabic I'll hit up the Hindi.
- anna sauce
Most ambitious young padawan! Now for extra credit (and if you want the ultimate linguistic challenge) try ancient Sumerian or Akkadian. Cuneiform FTW!!
- Adrian
The green squiggle is a dragon. rawr.
- Kamilah Gill
Kamillah - I remember playing those games. Youre NOT OLD. :P
- Internet's Tad
Sorry. I guess old is remembering when you played Tennis for Two on the oscilloscope back in nineteen hundred and fifty eight. THAT'S old. My parents were young children. Tonight, Kamilah de-evolves video games before your very eyes!
- Kamilah Gill
OMG I so remember this! Finding those keys! LOL
- Adam Turetzky
I think I might have played that. I don't quite remember. I do remember playing Pong (I'm older than you).
- Katy S
This makes me think of Temple of Apshai. (Introduced to me by Homestar Runner). I think I did play something on an Apple IIe that used Greek symbols or something for the characters. I do remember my uncle's IntelliVision that we weren't allowed to touch, that had graphics akin to these and controllers that looked like remote controls.
- Kamilah Gill
I used to play Temple of Apshai a lot on a Commodore 64.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Why is the answer divorce? Why isn't the answer "Cancel the TV show, Move to rural Canada away from the damn cameras and paparazzi, and try to work on our marriage"? - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
Agree. You are less likely to put in any work when you know there is an out waiting at the nearest law office.
- Alex Scrivener
gotta keep the gravy train rolling. The marriage? Fuck-it, their only time to make money like this is now, and that's what they want.
- Matthew DeVries
Thankfully they're able to put their own fleeting emotional horseshit above the emotional stability of their children. Otherwise they'd have to actually act like adults. Screw these people for what they're doing to their children.
- Brett Kelly
Don't get me started.. What kind of emotional retard lets themselves carry sextuplets to fruition? Come on, don't feed me that "god's little miracles" crap then use science to fiddle with the whole process. Some people should never be allowed to procreate, and that includes a moratorium on scientific fertility too.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
One outlier family having a litter is not going to affect the population problem at all, and really isn't the topic here. And Suzanne is right, sometimes divorce is the best answer, BUT whether that is the right answer or not cannot be tested with cameras everywhere and papps chasing you every where. By choosing to salvage the show, they are taking a crap on their wedding vows, which makes them hardly a vow at all.
- Matthew DeVries
This is basically a shortcut recipe that still delivers all the great samoas flavor without some of the more tedious parts of cooking making. These bars have a buttery shortbread base that is topped with the caramel-coconut samoas topping and chocolate. It is made in three stages. First, the shortbread is baked and cooled. Then, the coconut topping is applied. Put the coconut on while it is hot, so it will be fairly easy to push it around. It’s a thick mixture, but a spatula is all you need to press it into an even layer. The bars should be cut after the topping has been applied, and even though the shortbread has a melt-in-your mouth quality to it, the topping holds the bars together well. I recommend using a large knife or a pizza cutter to slice up the bars easily and neatly; small knives don’t work quite as well.
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
from Bookmarklet
Thank you, Gina. I am glad to be your hero :)
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Let's put those little bitches out of business.
- James Ferguson
@James - hey, they only sell those cookies for like 2 mo. out of the year. I'm happy to buy from them then, but where am I going to get my cookie fix for the other 10 months? Right here, I tell you. Those look awesome.
- Jennifer Dittrich
These looks good, but here is another one in case you prefer the peanut butter cookies. I've made these before and they are to die for. http://allrecipes.com/Recipe...
- Davis Freeberg
Mona, I am all for learning new things, but constitutional law seems like a stretch. Or are you actually a closet law geek?
- Rob Diana
LOL I'm turning into an American history geek and fascinated by the Constitution, especially with the various ways it is interpreted. This book is is apparently the best hornbook around. :)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I studied a ton of this in my Undergrad (Us Politics course) and in particular the constitution
- sofarsoShawn
Con law is fascinating -- if I win the lotto, I'd go to law school.
- Mona Nomura
Enough to get me through law school + living expenses. Scotch included. :)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
So you'll need $100-$200k for Harvard, depending on the quality of the scotch, plus a really good GPA. :)
- Cristo
Ok I'm coming out of the closet, I love two subjects; Anthropology and Law. You Go Mona.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Oh and PS, in washington state, you don't have to go to law school to sit for the bar exam, or practice law, though you DO have to have 3 years working in the legal field.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Mona, now I am confused. You are a geek who likes shoes, music AND scotch? It sounds like you are my twin :)
- Rob Diana
You forgot waffle fries! This is hilarious because we actually had a very heated office debate on Friday about which was better waffle fries or tater tots. Waffle fries won out.
- James Poling
I would have to say oldskool fries (done properly), which are called "Pommes Frites" here (and in France I presume). Especially since I haven´t seen "Tater Tots" before, but they look somewhat like our round "Pommes Noisettes" or maybe like a miniature "Rösti". Anyone know ?
- Thomas Bøhm
Tots > Onion rings > Waffle fries > Regular fries. The thin/short tots are especially good.
- Alix Whitmire
Fries > Waffle fries > potato wedges > tots. You can keep the onion rings. ick.
- ♥patricia♥
Texas toothpicks may trump them all, but it's hard for me to get them (and no, I will NOT try to make them, myself!). Potato wedges are also nice.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Depends on which fries and which onion rings. But hardly ever tatertots.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Tater tots would never win with me. Tough call between fries & onion rings, depends where they're from. Tony Roma's brick onion rings FTW above all other fries, but typical fries vs typical rings I'd go with the fries.
- Robert DeBord
I like all of them. Bring them on. :-)
- Raoul Pop
McD's fries, or Arby's curly fries. Onion rings are good, too, but most fast food places have crappy ones (Sonic's are pretty good). I hardly ever have tater tots even though I like stuff like hash browns.
- Cheryl Jones
Fries > Tots > nothing > Onion rings [OK, that doesn't parse right. I mean that I'd rather have nothing than have onion rings, but one could read that in part as "nothing is better than onion rings". What a crazy language.]
- Fred Yankowski
Fries. Tots are really good too, when they aren't grease-soaked. Onions should get naked.
- Wade Dorrell
Sweet Potato Fries. If that breaks the rules, onion rings.
- Jeanine W.
Bleh, I hate this post. I'm broke ... and I want some onion rings! Lovely, batter that melts in your mouth, nice and hot onion rings. :-P
- Matthew Horton
Jeanine W, I was about to say that sweet potato fries are the bomb!!! especially with a little butter.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Matt, right there with you. It keeps popping up and making me NEED to go get some chili cheese fries. But I'm being strong!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I've gotten no end to the grief from various girlfriends about my love of tater tots. Apparently, I am not alone!
- Seth Blank
i have slowly moved from fries at most places and gone rings or tots.
- (jeff)isageek
To clarify on everyone's request to add chips, we must keep our British friends in mind here... I think everyone is referencing "potato chips" not what we Americans call "french fries"...
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Ooh, love this question. I'd want to learn book conservation/restoration. That just seems so damn awesome. Wish I'd known that existed when I was little.
- Ayşe E.
Learn Japanese - in Japan. Full immersion course. Set us up in a small Japanese town with no English speaking people and provide us with the Pimsleur course and a good course for reading Japanese characters. In a year, we'd all be close to conversationally fluent.
- Internet's Tad
I'd go intensive into novel writing, with hired editors, writing coaches, and a research staff at my disposal. I'd need quite a bit of classes to do it, though, Anthropology, psychology, astronomy, Mythology, and of course writing.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
At this point, I probably want to hone my photography skills and become a fulltime professional photographer, for a magazine like Wallpaper. (Then again, I also want to finally get a book published, so I may try that instead ...)
- Rene Wirtz
Hmmm, maybe cooking school, or a language, or photography. Digital technology has changed the work flow SO much.
- Derrick
Six months of a crash course in Effective Bribery for the Amateur Emperor. And then I'd put those unlimited funds to some really good use...
- Andy Bold
Xeriscape gardening and farming. I figure that'll be useful in the coming years, and I like gardening anyway.
- Amy℠
Definitely music theory. I can pretty much bang away at any instrument and make it sound kinda good, but I would be a beast if I actually learned scales, modes, etc.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Architecture. No question about it. What I should have done the first time around. But nooo, "You should go with business and economics".. My ass. EDIT: Ah..only one year.. a crash course in sailboat design (if not proper naval architecture) then.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
I like to learn how to live off the original funding giving me the means to learn any and everything I wanted at my leisure.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
skill? I'll have to go with piano as well.
- Alejandro
It's a tie between learning to be a top chef, and spending a year doing strength and stamina training so I can finally hike the full length of the Pacific Crest Trail. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I think B-boying. DJing would last me longer -- I'm 32 and my knees know it -- but my heart is with breaking first.
- Andrew C
"egg-carton-atema-architecture Atema Architecture’s “Auto-Cannabilistic Table” is made out of egg cartons, flour paste, soil, and seeds. When water is added, the seeds germinate and the table literally eats itself."
- Bren, Not Grinchy
from Bookmarklet
Monkeylectric is a system of LEDs that attaches to your spokes and displays patterns and even words as you ride. If you hadn't guessed its target market, the FAQ includes an assurance that yes, it will work at Burning Man. It's essentially a AA battery-powered 256 RGB system that straps to a bike's spokes and has a sweet spot of between 8 and 20 mph: At 8, you'll just start to see the patterns in the center, and at 20 the light show will have taken over your entire wheel. It's customizable, but only to a point, as you have to use the on-board buttons to alter the patterns rather than loading images via USB or whatever. Monkeylectric is available now for $60, which seems a fair price to have the best bike at your acid-tripping festival of choice. [Monkeylectric via Boing Boing Gadgets]
- Bluesun 2600
Tomorrow I'm going to wake up at a reasonable hour and create an evil concoction of boiling water, a bit of soap, and something plant unfriendly. I'm then going to take said concoction outside and pour it on some English ivy and listen for little plant screams as it dies an agonizingly painful death.
Ian, it's invasive here. I think I'm going to add vinegar to the mix, and possibly a bit of bleach. I don't want to use ammonia because that provides available nitrogen which is actually a good thing (GAH!). If I use bleach I'll keep it at 10% and will have to be careful to apply only to the leaves and not get any on the ground.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
that's all wayyyyyy too confusing for me.....if it wasn't near the house I'd just say torch it :P
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
If you're successful at killing it, let me know how you do it. I've tried for 5 years to get it off all my trees and various other places and there's still some left in my flower beds.
- Trish R
LOL! Mike, it's near EVERYTHING. The thing with ivy is it has a wax coating on the leaves, so I'm thinking boiling hot water + soap + vinegar = dissolves the wax coating. Sensible, no? Oh, I know! I'll pour the boiling surfactant mix on them willy nilly and then spray them with the 10% bleach solution I keep for sanitizing. Do it in the morning and then let the sun bake it in.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I only asked as it looks so pretty growing up the side of old English cottages. Actually though it's not always a good thing there either, as it promotes dampness into the walls.
- Ian May
Before I moved into this house, I loved the stuff. Evergreen, low growing, cute leaves. But I've got it everywhere and if left unchecked it'll choke out shrubs, kill full grown trees, and cause damage to houses it climbs upon. Actually, there's a dead and ivied tree that straddles the property line here: perhaps I'll brave the snakes and take a picture of it tomorrow.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Trish: do you have any left in the trees? You should be able to cut the vines at the base and the tendrils in the trees will die off.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
http://www.nps.gov/plants... I spent about a half an hour looking for a natural way to kill it to no avail. I'm wondering if a black ground-cover cloth might work? After all doesn't it need light to live, that would seem to be the least chemical way to attack it, though prob the most expensive.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
No, I was able to get rid of all of that crap growing up my trees. I also killed all of it growing on the side of the house and up the beams on the patio. It is back in my flower beds, though, I noticed today. I used to think it was so pretty and now I hate it. It's worse than weeds.
- Trish R
Between the ivy and the periwinkle, I'm up to my eyeballs in 'quick spreading groundcovers'. My fingers are crossed that tomorrow's experiment will prove fruitful.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
BWaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahha!!! I've just posted something about using alcohol to stunt plant growth, and concentrations over 10% are supposed to be toxic. So tomorrow's tonic is a bath of boiling water + soap + vinegar to dissolve the wax coating with a follow-up spray of a bleach and alcohol mix.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, be careful, that by the time you finish, you don't end up with a mixture that's explosive... literally. LOL
- Ian May
Dave just said the same thing! As long as I'm not putting ammonia in with my bleach, I should be safe.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
The results page I'm getting just shows the properties of the two and doesn't show the resulting compound. And I'm seeing where bleach disinfection is often directly followed by ethanol disinfection in hospital environments in order to prevent corrosion of the stainless steel.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, another great place to check mixture. The msds page is required by all healthcare facilites for their workers exposure information as well as other things: http://hazard.com/msds/
- Janet
just put any qualms to one side and use Round Up on it.
- John Hardy
Sounds fun, I suggest a Nine Inch Nails soundtrack to enhance the experience
- Ryan Miller
from Nambu
@John Hardy, I can attest to the fact Round Up feeds ivy, makes it stronger and harder to kill. I even injected the stuff in the main root system and the stuff didn't die.
- Janet
wow. I've only used it on out of control bamboo and it did the job but I'll defer to your experience there, Janet.
- John Hardy
I'll tell you right now...normally I go for the hot vampire, and I don't particularly care for blondes (I love dark hair/dark eyes) but Sam turns my crank far harder than Bill. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Oh srsly, there's a room? I like the show, but I'm pretty sure I don't like it THAT much. lol That being said, anyplace where I can openly bitch about how irritating Sookie gets or how much I want to punch Tara in the neck sometimes, I'm in. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
OK, I have to admit I don't know who either of them are
- Ian May
I think what kills it for me with Bill is his hair more than anything. I realize he's supposed to look like he's from the 19th century, but the sideburns make me want to give up sex entirely.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Bill, w/out a doubt, but I'd make him shave the elvis off the side of his face first. But then the fact that they are into sookie stackhouse, kinda turns me off.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
The actor who plays Bill looked much better in Quills. My mom says she doesn't care about either one, she digs Sookie's brother.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Amber, (no offense meant to your mom, just the characters on the show) she likes them young and dumb? Oh, it's based on looks. I'm a brain person.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Thanks, it's all un-styled right now. The front is just trimmed up but the back is much better. It has been POURING rain and then getting sunny so my hair is all a mess. At least it is not all in the way anymore!
- joey
Yeah... that is a nice avatar..not that the old one was bad... just darker.. this is nice and bright. :o) just gotta turn the corners of ya mouth up ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Haha, yeah. I need to take one where I'm smiling. I was trying too hard to find a place where I could keep my eyes open...the sun was blinding me!
- joey
Thanks CW, Anna, and Jim! Alex, haha. I'm surprised I didn't combust (though I guess I've been preparing for sun at home). Rochelle, it's good! Ben is working on a puzzle and we're about to go for a photo walk.
- joey
It's fascinating. I'm alternately drawn into Joey's eyes and back to the table in the distance, like I'm expecting to see something there. And then back to the eyes. :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
For the last time interwebz, FTW! means "For the win!"...It usually connotates that something is good/great (cheesecake FTW!)...can also be used to mean the opposite in a sarcastic manner (unemployment FTW!)...That is all...
If you have to explain, it's just not as fun. Defining FTL!
- CAJ, somewhere else
I love PSAs! Service that is Public and Announcer-y and not just a test of the emergency broadcast system are fine indeed. Alex FTW! (not Brian's version mind you)
- Micah Wittman
WHAT! Cheesecake not FTW?!?!?!?! Oh man you are so not invited to my next party Wirehead...
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Interesting. According to the 1970's pre-disco party-trippin' Book of Beginnings, FTW is "F**k The World" as in "F" the status quo zombie herd conventional empire group think of the day. E.g., "cheesecake while high. FTW!" or, as you indicate, the sardonic inverse literal form, "cell phone carrier cartel 100X price-per-bit sippy-straw speed splinternets, FTW!" So I'd submit, "1970's retro-trip-hop FTW ... FTW!"
- michael silverton
Wow I though for sure, sharing that my dad was in a science fiction movie, aboard the USS Nimitz, and had movie stars barbecue over at our house would get *some* kind of reaction FriendFeed.... I mean family, personal stuff, sci fi, jets, the navy, and the USS Nimitz... it's got all sorts of WIN no?
I declared today anti-drama day in honor of Tina, so I won't say what I would like to, but instead I bring you visions of sugarplums dancing in you head (bump).
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
It doesn't have catz in it though, that would have totally kept it at the top of the feed for a week.
- Kenton
Damn, true, if there was a LOL cat and a picture of some food it would have reached FriendFeed Critical mass. Maybe that should be a meme? A post with as much win as possible?
- mikepk
sci-fi LOL cat, eating something with a delicious looking picture of the food, and then a DYSP thrown in for fun?
- mikepk
"Many of the real-life stories are intensely painful to read because war, violence, poverty or abuse in the home turns childhood into a battle for survival. And then novels - such as The Wasp Factory, Flowers in the Attic and The Cement Garden - have been criticized almost as much as they have been praised because they challenge taboos about how youngsters should behave. Enjoy, or endure, our selection of 20 books about shattered childhoods."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet