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Michael Fidler
These are all done in Pencil.
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Impressive - M F
Great work! - Neya
I'm sorry but this is unbelievable:) I'll give credit to the artist upon more convincing proof! The photogenic look of the tiger and lion really helps the artist's case though:) - Roney Smith
I'm with Roney... I find this hard to believe... or maybe I'm just jealous that I can't even get stick people right! - Jasmin Smith
I don't believe it. Too amazing. - Rah-PM 2012
I'm with Rah - Shey
Only the lion looks like its drawn - embee
The bear and rhino look drawn, too. - Chris Charabaruk
very very talented. Wow they look like B&W pics you know photography. - Gabriella Sannino
These are amazing, were they done by you? - Angelo Rodrigues
Nice photographs - Rafael Robayna
@michael, if they weren't drawn by you, at least tell us who the artist is and the link - LouCypher
Link please? - Jason Wehmhoener
wow - Carolyn Chan
being slightly skeptical, i'm going to say these were done with pencil by a printer of some sorts... #justsayin - Enrique Gutierrez
they're beautiful, but skeptical as well - Jennifer Van Grove
Would need to see higher quality images to see if they are pencil or not - too many jpg artifacts to tell. - Luke Addison from twhirl
Stupefied. - Parth Awasthi
Wow!! Yeah it's pretty amazing what they can draw with a pencil nowadays, deviantART has lots of great pencil art. - Kol Tregaskes
Michael, who is the artist? - Kol Tregaskes
wow, cool! - Sarah Perez
I'm really happy everyone liked these. They're my most liked entry to date, Thanks! There also seems to be some question about whether these are actually Pencil Drawings.I can assure you that they are.When I get home, I should have the links. I have more drawings, too. - Michael Fidler from fftogo
O_O WOW...Stunning - Anna Haro
Wow, these are stunning!! - Susan Beebe
Yes, especially the tiger. Reminds me of that "Tiger, tiger burning bright." - Melanie Reed
Alright, Mike - I believe you. These are awesome. Good job! - Enrique Gutierrez
HOLY CRAP. - Chieze Okoye
no way! - Mister Groonk
Thanks Enrique, I'll post some more soon. They are a little more obvious than these ones. As Luke points out; without being able to look closely it's impossible to tell. He's right; but up close it's more obvious. I'll upload the originals to Picasa later, and then you'll be able to zoom in with any photo viewer and see for yourselves. I can't believe how many people liked these. A few people have reposted them already. Thanks! - Michael Fidler
Absolutely awesome, Michael. You are extremely talented. Everyone should repost these pix and help to make you famous. You should be doing this full time - you obviously have some passion for this. Bravo. - Chris Loft
These are really beautiful, Michael. Do you sell them? - Shannon Jiménez
Chris, I would love to say they're mine, but it's not true. I've had them for a while, but I'll find the artists names. It will just require a little backtracking. Besides, they deserve the credit; all I did was find them:-) - Michael Fidler
Cut the bullshit! :) Photos are very good. - Burçak Çubukçu
I draw alot in pencil, but they are amazing, the best for me is the girl, that is the most photo-like one. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I agree Rob, the girl is amazing. My favorite by far! Wait until you see it close up! It's really had to tell, even up close! - Michael Fidler
Burçak Çubukçu If these were photographs, they would be very good. As Pencil Drawings,(which they are), they're amazing. - Michael Fidler
Wow, amazingly realistic - Threepwood
@Michael Fidler did you draw them? How can you so sure? - Burçak Çubukçu
dont look like it - Prakash
@ Michael Fidler don't push so hard :) - Burçak Çubukçu
@Burçak Çubukçu I can't tell if your serious now or just kidding around. I hope your just having fun! If you are serious, I've never given you a reason to question my integrity, nor do I ever intend to. However, the second set is up now, so judge them for yourself, but don't judge me! http://ff.im/1BJh5 BTW, I messed up and reposted the shot of the women again. Oh well. Hope you like them:-) - Michael Fidler
@Michael: try deviantART, not Picasa, to submit your artworks - LouCypher
WOW "I can't believe it's in pencil" - The Real sofarsoShawn
LouCypher, I know it well, but I don't see why I would want to do that. I hope everyone knows by now that they're not mine? I'm sorry, but I can't say it any clearer than that. - Michael Fidler
nah, i don't believe it is done in pencil. i am sure it is photoshopped :) - hasin hayder
These would be great even for photos. - Sullivan
i'm not able to comprehend - Varun Shenoy
I'm finding this both interesting and humorous at the same time. There's a separate message board where this post is being discussed and it has another forty comments on it already. I think its great how this has created some lively discussion, considering that when I posted this I was doubtful if anyone would even like it. When I went to sleep last night there was only had 3 or 4 likes... more... - Michael Fidler
Very interesting. I would like to see them up close and in person...just to make sure. Bill said it's real and possible. Your 2nd set of picts look like pencil. Nice work in finding these! - LaFern Cusack
Kol, I can't thank you enough! Kol found another post which helps to prove that these are done in pencil. I had my doubts about a few of them because I collected them from several different sites over time, but the site Kol found has done a great job pulling together an impressive collection of these drawings and more. Take a look - http://www.flickzzz.com/2009... - Michael Fidler
Actually there are more than what this site shows. There's an entire set with the cats(little cats), which I have, and there's a new portrait set. - Michael Fidler
Found your post here, Michael. :-) I tried my best to find the artists. - Kol Tregaskes
Amazing and very very very good.... Very impressive ... - Linda Zeek-Bobinski
fake. http://lenscratch.blogspot.com/2009... Even if your not claiming to be the artist, these are photographs, well except the woman, thats pencil - james foor
Yeah we know, thanks though, James. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Excellent pictures - how long did it take you to scan the photographs into Photoshop and then edit them? The only pencil that has come into contact with these "drawings" is the Photoshop pencil. A tip - stop trying to fool people into thinking you are a "real" artist, because all you are doing is cheapening proper artist's works whom have spent hours creating real pictures as opposed to a few minutes on a graphics editing package. - The Wimp
A bell does ring here. And I am remembering why I was so attracted to the tiger...and the lion for that matter. These are exact replicas of prints I had in our bedroom when I lived in Dallas. I had bought the prints (in color) at a department store, - Melanie Reed
Actually, I have learned quite a bit about these drawing since I made this post. Not only have I discovered all of the artists, but I've learned more about how they are created. They are always copied from a photograph or painting, but usually a photograph. It is extremely time consuming and detail orientated work. There are many other artists besides the ones featured here who practice... more... - Michael Fidler
Most of them have portfolio's on deviantart.com and their work is truly amazing even if they are copies of other artists work. I suppose with this level of detail, they have to start with something. Nevertheless, I'm still in awe of their talent. Melanie, the animal prints you refer to are from a very well renowned photographer. The originals are B&W I'll look it up later but I do have... more... - Michael Fidler
wow; they're unbelieavably beautiful. - liladreams
Has anyone ever corrected the record and pointed out, with the exception of the Charlize Theron drawing, that these are indeed photos by Alexander Von Reiswitz? - erik weisz
Erik, thank you for bringing this up again, but I think I already mentioned something about this in my prior comment. However, since it appears that you only signed up to friendfeed to leave a single comment, (ok, why?) I will try to summarize what I wrote previously. In brief, I learned after doing a little research that all photo-realistic drawings like the ones that I shared here,... more... - Michael Fidler
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I can assure you that what are claimed to be drawings of animals, in your post here, are photos. I used a website to that allows you to do an comparison of the Von Reiswitz photos and the images you have posted here. There are no differences. Every hair matches up. As a pencil artist myself I can tell you that it's pretty much impossible to get that kind of accuracy and have it look... more... - erik weisz
but... it has to be real, i saw it on the internet - Iphigenie
Eric, it doesn't matter to me if you just joined, and I apologize if I made you think otherwise. If you have any questions regarding friendfeed, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them. At this point, I would be happy if we could find someone who is an image analysis expert, and finally point this thing to rest. Every time that I look into this, all I find is a... more... - Michael Fidler
the site spammed above must all be done in pencil too, right, thats why you posted it? - Iphigenie
I'm amazed that people are still posting these photographs of animals and calling them pencil drawings. This is at least the third case I can remember (and there are probably more) of this happening. The myth about them being drawings was debunked long ago. It's also funny that whenever they get posted the person posting them doesn't make it clear that they aren't the artist, exactly as you have done. - canadianmaple09
@canadianmaple09 I posted these back in March, 2009 when I was beginning to use FF regularly. I ran them through TinEye hoping to find their source, but it returned no results. When I ran through again yesterday, TinEye returned over four pages of results. If I had it to do over again, would I? Yes - Michael Fidler
The people you refer do don't join "just to slam" someone, they are concerned members of the online art community that want to see real art appreciated and fake art or photos being passed off as drawings revealed for what they really are. Artists such as Brian Duey, Armin Mersmann, Paul Lung, Zindy Nielsen,and many others do not receive the appreciation they deserve because of scams like this. - canadianmaple09
canadianmaple09, the worthiness of your motives notwithstanding (and they are worthy, definitely) you could definitely have approached Michael completely differently by say, giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than attacking in a highly accusatory tone. - Chieze Okoye
When you've seen these same pictures posted multiple times by people that just find them on the internet and claim they are pencil drawings, when it has already been established on multiple occasions that they are not, the "benefit of the doubt" approach seems a little too generous. People post these images and claim they're drawings to get views for their own site or blog or page or whatever it is they post it on. It's wrong and it needs to be stopped. - canadianmaple09
I can understand that, but you should also keep in mind that everyone is not as well-versed in the issue as you are. All I'm saying is that you would probably be more effective in this case if you weren't setting this up as a us-vs.-them, "must destroy with the validity my argument!" attitude when talking to a guy who's been actively having a discussion on the issue in what seems to me (having been around when he first posted the images and the follow up thread and what not) to be good faith. - Chieze Okoye
Look at his first comment here. People clearly thought he drew them. He doesn't set the record straight. He also claims that they "are actually pencil drawings" and that "I have more drawings too." Later he claims that you need to look at them closer to see they are drawings and that he will "post the originals". Once again, this makes it sound like they are his. This follows the same... more... - canadianmaple09
Greg and Chieze, thanks for your support. I really appreciate it. @canadianmaoles09, for what it’s worth, I share your concerns about giving proper attribution when sharing also. However, I admit that I'm more conscious of it now than I was at the time of this post. Nevertheless, I have never taken credit for anybody's work here other than my own! - Michael Fidler
BTW, I didn't realize it before, but I just noticed that you're new here too. I hope you like it so far and spend more time here. IMO, friendfeed is still the best thing around! - Michael Fidler
I would probably qualify as an image analysis expert, but there's no way to prove that online. One thing we can do is look at color. Even though the images are black and white,they're actually RGB images, meaning they contain cyan magenta and yellow. If you look at the image of the rhino you have posted then look at the photo of the rhino at the photographer's site you can see they both... more... - erik weisz
Mark Krynsky
FriendFeed User Locations - Google Shared Map (4 days & 75 users later) - http://maps.google.com/maps...
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A smashing success! Thanks to everyone who has participated. This is very cool. If you haven't yet, go ahead and do so. Original post here http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mark Krynsky
Added. Surely I'm not the only FF'er in Africa? - Neill Adamson
@Neill, that's great. You just got us to the 6th continent. I highly doubt we can hit 7 as there surely can't be someone from Antarctica that FriendFeeds. - Mark Krynsky
The Antarctica challenge: OK, here's the plan: we need to contact Eli Duke (http://twitter.com/elisfanclub) he's tweeting from McMurdo Station, Antarctica. We have until February (some background I just found: on his 1st stint in the Antarctic he was a dish washer. In 2006 he wrote a functioning RubyOn Rails site, got burned out and tried to give it away on Craig's List...unsuccessfully--it's back online now http://listyourlist.com/ . McMurdo Photo: http://is.gd/8Ltk) - Micah
I reshared to the Translation room to help boost your international participation. - Shannon Jiménez
nah, friendfeed isn't a niche play. it's got dozens of users! ;) - Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy: you are such a comedian! - Robert Scoble
Alrighty then, I just sent Eli a tweet (http://friendfeed.com/e... ) with a plea. I hope I'm not taken for a crazy. Hmm, I know that could be my first reaction. - Micah
@Robert: caught up with an old buddy over a cigar, bottle of wine, and a few glasses of quality bourbon. and i have to be up at 6. so i'm having fun. ;) sorry we didn't get to catch up more at the 12seconds/uservoice party! - Jeremy Toeman
WTF!!! Nobody from India... ??? Am I the only one..:) - Devakishor
Well I was late to this party. Great idea Mark. I have all of New Zealand to myself! - Alistair (alpinefolk)
Turkey is on it must be. Anyhow, and Anyway, they'll be more Balloons One Day All Around Our World, BTW Thats a Great Daft Punk Track ain't it ;-D, Shall We Play it, and what Room shall we doeth Such? It Big enough for All. That is All. Time For Work Now, See You Laters, FriendFeed and Have A Nice But Try Not To Be too naughty Day. :)) - Jason
Reshared in my feed! - Flavio
Ditto. - Kol Tregaskes
Wow... I am the only person in VA. I expected a lot more people around DC. - Aram Zucker-Scharff
Ah... Aram, I'm in Virginia Beach, but I don't think it added me properly. - Ladyepiphanybug
we have someone in the middle of the Atlantic - Alejandro
How did I miss this? Off to add my pin! - FFing Enigma
same here! Ok just added mine a while ago (Irondequoit Bay near Rochester, NY)... look for sailboat! - Susan Beebe
Pin added. Great idea! - James Ferguson
2nd pin added in Italy! - Alessandro
Pin and 1m snow added in Helsinki. Great idea! - udo
pin added at OHSU in Portland, Oregon - Maureen
+1 pin at Debrecen, Hungary - Berci Mesko, MD
Why is Erhan Erdogan in the middle of the atlantic ocean on the map? Is he in the Bermuda Triangle or something? lol - Alan Le
@Micah, great job on recruitment. Eli has added himself and we now have all 7 continents filled. - Mark Krynsky
Erhan probably got moved accidentally. When I got to the page, and was moving the map, I accidently grabbed someone and moved them to the middle of the Atlantic. Thankfully, it was someone who used a special icon, so it was easy to search and put them back. - Anika
I put my self on the map... - Aline
Added, in the Norway. :) - Daniel Bruce
Added me in Texas! - Phil Glockner
Added myself in the west Chicago suburbs. :) - Cheryl Jones
@Mark Such Coolness! And thanks Eli (http://friendfeed.com/elisfan...) - Micah
Bump for Leather Donut. - Rochelle
Hmm, apparently I'm just up the road from Haggis. - Rob H.
I just added myself. Curious - how do you get different placemarks? I like the Google-looking ones that aren't quite raindrops. - Tamar Weinberg
Just an addendum to Spidra's explanation: To go back and edit, click the pushpin then click the "Edit" button (look waaay to the left on the page). Then you can click the icon to change, and you'll see Save button next to "Edit" - Micah
Oh cool. Nice job reviving this guys. Hopefully we get another good round of users to add themselves. - Mark Krynsky
Added! :) - AJ Batac :)
Wow Jess. That must be so great to see your work utilized by others. It's definitely been a smashing success here. Thanks for sharing. - Mark Krynsky
+Jess! - Micah
Kind of frustrating to see how much time I spent on this map and then to find out someone had probably saved their changes over mine - hence mine was gone this entire time. Others should also check for this. In any event, thanks, Spidra, for the tip :) My other pet peeve is Google Maps scrolling incessantly out of nowhere. (Hi Jess.) - Tamar Weinberg
Added myself yesterday. I notice, thought, that you have to flip to page 2 ... Can't we show all the FFers on one map, regardless of the page ? - Ahsan Ali
How do I get myself added to the map? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
@Alex Scoble click the link in the main post, search your location, and add a placemark (the blue mark on left top of the map) - Eric Reboisson
done - Orsan Erksoy
bump... - Bren
double bump. - Mark Krynsky
Taylorsville, UT - Jesse Stay
Yo Derrick...almost time to move your pushpin eh? - Mark Krynsky
Yes indeed, Mark. :) - Derrick
That's very cool. Just added myself. I thought there were more of us in South America. - Juan Pablo González
Neat. Added myself. - Otto
Mitchell Tsai
is posting some pictures from Sacsayhuamán, Peru on Facebook, but it's taking forever on this slow Internet connection. http://facebook.com/album... Facebook exporter keeps breaking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Sacsayhuamán is a walled complex near the old city of Cusco, at an altitude of 3,701...
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Sacsayhuamán is a walled complex near the old city of Cusco, at an altitude of 3,701 m. or 12,000 feet. The site is part of the City of Cuzco, which was added to the UNESCO World Heritage List in 1983. It was built by the prehistoric indigenous people of the Killke culture about 1100 AD. They were superseded by the Inca, who occupied and expanded the complex beginning about 1200 AD. - Mitchell Tsai
The stones are so closely spaced that a single piece of paper will not fit between many of the stones. This precision, combined with the rounded corners of the limestone blocks, the variety of their interlocking shapes, and the way the walls lean inward, is thought to have helped the ruins survive devastating earthquakes in Cuzco. The longest of three walls is about 400 meters. They are... more... - Mitchell Tsai
On March 13, 2008, archaeologists discovered the ruins of an ancient temple in the periphery of Sacsayhuaman. It also is believed to have been built by the Killke culture, and scholars believe this indicates the site was a ceremonial center for religious as well as political activities. These people built structures and occupied the site for hundreds of years before the Inca, between 900 and 1200 AD. - Mitchell Tsai
Andrew Terry
Mass drug overdose – none dead - New Scientist - http://www.newscientist.com/article...
Mass drug overdose – none dead - New Scientist
"No ill effects were reported by hundreds of volunteers who took part in a mass-overdose stunt around the world to demonstrate that homeopathic remedies are nothing more than sugar pills. "There were no casualties at all, as far as I know," says Martin Robbins, spokesman for the "10:23" campaign, created to highlight the alleged ineffectiveness of homeopathic remedies. "No one was cured of anything either," says Robbins." - Andrew Terry from Bookmarklet
I could have told them that. That's not the way homeopathy works. It is the way drugs take effect. They work on two different methodologies. Try again. - Melanie Reed
I also expect things like this now. Watch your history. Every time money is tight you will see big money making industries release "studies" that counter argue the benefits or undermine their competitors in order to get a bigger piece of the economic pie. - Melanie Reed
Melanie - that was the point of the stunt; to illustrate that homeopathy doesn't work, for good *or* bad, and yet they're marketed as "remedies".... - Andrew Terry
Andrew, Homeopathy does work but not on single dose. - Melanie Reed
Ummmm, they're sugar pills; they're no more remedial than a Polo mint. - Andrew Terry
No here's the deal. Homeopathy does have a market and the drug makers want it. And they are doing the same thing they did years ago to under mine the market and yet it came back. Hmmmmmm - Melanie Reed
Now if you want to drugs for everything, that's fine. If I choose to take this, that is my choice and others. But the drug companies don't want you and I to have choice. - Melanie Reed
Just because it has a market doesn't make it legitimate. You can buy spray-on hair, too. - Akiva
It was legitimate before drug companies came in. Please read the history. - Melanie Reed
Does the term "snake oil" mean anything to you, Melanie? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's not a matter of history, Melanie. It's a matter of science. Homeopathy has been disproven time and time again. - Akiva
I'm with Melanie on this one, they do work on somethings and if people want them, why can't they? - Faraz Mullick
No one's saying you can't eat sugar pills if you want. - Akiva
@Faraz - I think the opposition is mainly to homeopathy being treated on equal footing with other remedies. (I also think there's a lot of confusion over the term homeopathy, as a lot of people just think that means all natural medicine, which it is definitely not.) - Jennifer Dittrich
Jennifer, good point. I'm a big fan of naturopathy but homeopathy is hogwash. You might as well as believe in some mystical being in the sk... HEY WAIT A MINUTE HERE - Akiva
iirc, the point of the stunt was to prove that homeopathy is a placebo effect and that NHS money (tax money) should not be spent on it - Chris Heath
And just for some good ol' laughs: http://www.b3tards.com/v... - Akiva
Homeopathic medicine is the practice of administering highly diluted quantities of substances that are suspected of causing the same effects as the illness they are intended to treat. So in theory they should have exhibited the symptoms of whatever their medicine was intended to treat. Since they exhibited none, it appears their medicine treats nothing. Thus, a fool and his money part swiftly. - Geoff Schultz {TF}
Wouldn't OD'ing on homeopathic 'remedies' be achieved by diluting it even more, though? Natural remedies are fine when they can be proved to work, Akiva. I don't think that's what people generally mean when they refer to naturopathy. You can still be a fan, of course - Eivind
Eivind, you don't think that naturopathy is what people mean when they refer to naturopathy? - Akiva
Perhaps, as Joel, presented on another thread this is a terminology problem. It's not that you are saying natural remedies don't work its that the term to many of you of homeopathy has lost credibility according to your perception of it. - Melanie Reed
Um, no. Homeopathy has a very specific definition in this case. Homeopathy != Natural medicine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Jennifer Dittrich
Homeopathy, as it is defined, has no credibility not because of my perception but because of scientific studies on it. Naturopathy and homeopathy are not the same thing. - Akiva
But again, this is about money.And were all "homeopathic/naturopathic" remedies were removed, the drug companies would begin to devour each other. - Melanie Reed
At this point, personally, let the will of the people take place. If I and others who want different have to pay or do without, I accept that. - Melanie Reed
I seriously doubt the drug companies are all that worried about homeopathic products. If they actually worked, they'd produce them themselves. But since they don't, they know that people who take them will eventually get sick enough to need proper pharmaceutical medicine in the long run. - Akiva
Uh? Why would they consolidate even more than they already do. I have a feeling the board member that brings up the word Homeopathy in a discussion regarding competition gets laughed out of the room. - Geoff Schultz {TF}
As far as I can tell, no one on this thread is actively calling for naturopathic remedies to be removed at all (some are singing its praises). The two terms are not interchangeable, even if that has become common usage. - Jennifer Dittrich
Akiva, I meant I don't think naturopathy is just about proven natural remedies. If that was the case you could just call it medicine. No one is trying to use as much synthetic medicine as possible. - Eivind
Eivind, there are many types of medicine, each classified according to its kind: natural, antibiotic, et al. They're all medicines. Now, having written that, I certainly don't believe that all natural remedies are worth a damn and some may have an effect but not enough. My argument here is that there is science that backs up the effects of naturopathy and there is none that backs up homeopathy. - Akiva
I agree on science based medicine, Akiva. This is what I'm thinking of when I hear naturopathy, though (you may just think about science based natural remedies like aspirin): http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quack... - Eivind
Akiva, I respect your argument. But Science doesn't always tell the truth. It has a percentage rate of arriving at something that appears to be true as far as it is known at that moment. That is why you will have problems with medicines that are scientifically founded but have to be recalled later. Alex, Yes, I do know the difference between something that has worked for me and "snake oil". :) - Melanie Reed
Naturopathy is in the same psuedo-science league as homeopathy; nothing that can stand up to scientific testing and scrutiny. - Andrew Terry
And then the inevitable: "We're sorry but we didn't know as much but then please trust us now because we know so much more." - Melanie Reed
Anecdotes "doesn't always tell the truth" either, Melanie. What has worked for you sounds like the placebo effect, and that can be achieved with snake oil. - Eivind
Eivind, If it goes on for three years or more with no change but they are made worse by the doctors and their drugs what should we do? - Melanie Reed
I would do some research into other proven treatment methods, but of course medicine can't fix everything. - Eivind
Bingo! Eivind. That is why people turn to alternative medicine. Why did you not consider that I and others have been doing that? - Melanie Reed
"But Science doesn't always tell the truth" - no, but unlike pseudo-science, Science is built upon the framework of change. Once a theory is proven not to be sound it is discarded. Homeopathy is NOT Science, because even in the clear light of being shown to be a hoax, its adherents continue to support it. - iTad from fftogo
Melanie, the key word there is "proven." Homeopathy has been proven to have no effect at all besides the effect one gets from sugar pills. - iTad from fftogo
Tad - great point. That's an important, and often overlooked, aspect of science-based medicine - chemists and doctors *know* they don't have all the answers and that's what continues to drive them forward, with research and testing. - Andrew Terry
I think what is not being said as well is that until you have been in the situation and been sick that long, its hard to see the other person's point of view. - Melanie Reed
And my guess is that Homeopathy is pretty static... because it's a hoax. - iTad from fftogo
Melanie, I agree with that statement, but it has nothing to do with the efficacy of homeopathy. - iTad from fftogo
Thanks Tad and as I said, I am willing to forgo anyone paying for what alternative medicine I choose to take. And if I can't afford it then I'll do without. Because I never want to go back to the mess I got into going from doctor to doctor and being made worse. At some point, logic kicked in and saw my finances being drained and I wasn't getting better but only worse. And the ironic... more... - Melanie Reed
Well, while I'm no fan of homeopathy, the blanket statement that it does not work is not specifically true. There are instances where it is very effective. Case in point: I live in the boonies where poison ivy is rampant. I start each spring taking small doses of poison ivy extract, and can then roll naked in the stuff without an outbreak. Before I discovered this, I could walk by and itch for a week. - JCunwired
Alternative/natural treatment is a different story altogether. There are many, many areas where the natural alternative is more effective than medical treatment. But then, that's not the argument here. - JCunwired
Melanie, same situation here. I spent a year and a half with serious disruption of bodily function, and at the end of it all drs said they couldn't help. Two weeks after seeing an herbalist highly regarded for her alternative methods, I was cured. Details via PM only. - JCunwired
You're not describing homeopathy there, jcunwired. The homeopathic remedy would be water that 'remembered' being in contact with the poison ivy extract. - Eivind
Eivind, I appreciate what you are saying and you and I must have different homeopathic reference books. I think mine must be "old" because none of my homepathic books use that description or even advocate it. - Melanie Reed
You don't believe in "potentization", Melanie? Maybe we are talking past each other then. - Eivind
Eivind, I think its the latter conclusion. :) - Melanie Reed
Most allergy medication that's administered in a doctors office (subcutaneously) is small doses of the allergen, and I have had doctors recommend that I eat honey from a local beehive to help with spring allergies (because the local flower pollen gets in the honey), but those are NOT Homeopathic remedies. Homeopathic is when they take something that causes an ailment, run water over it,... more... - Lindsay
Lindsay, it appears that it needs to be said again that apparently homeopathy is a general term that many of us (for the past 20 years I know of and during the time I was the editor of Southern Indiana HEAL a part of the national HEAL(Human Ecology Action League dealing with issues related to chemical sensitivities and complex allergies) in Atlanta and wrote about this) have understood... more... - Melanie Reed
Recently someone I know posted something that seemed interesting about water memory, the idea that water can retain some chemical properties of a solution regardless of how dilute the solution had become. This is supposedly the mechanism at work with "mother water" and its dilutes that makes homeopathy possible. Apparently a skeptical scientist named Madeleine Ennis conducted an... more... - Jason Wehmhoener
Melanie, are you talking about something other than Homeopathy, as described on Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... That seems to be what everyone else is talking about, and it certainly seems to be a complete and total hoax. - iTad from fftogo
Tad, there appears to be a difference between ancient homeopathy and modern homeopathy. One seems to have the jury still in somewhat where the other feels certain the jury is having dinner at Denny's. ;) At any rate, the real argument is about money and where it should go in health care. The sub argument is about the efficacy or non-efficacy of homeopathy. We are treading difficult... more... - Melanie Reed
I'm sorry Melanie - you totally lost me on all that. The original discussion was centered around whether or not Homeopathy was a fraud. As for money in healthcare, especially tax payer money - certainly none of it should go to proven hoaxes. A hoax alternative is NOT an alternative. - iTad from fftogo
Tad, that is my point: would you really feel that strongly (and did you before?) about homeopathy if it were not for the health care debate and the possibility of your tax dollars going to fund it? Would it not really be just a minor (if that) annoyance that it existed? - Melanie Reed
There is no debate about the efficacy. There is not, and never, in the entire history of the universe, has there ever been a double-blind peer-reviewed study that showed any efficacy of homeopathy beyond placebo effect. Whether it's public or private dollars, it's still fraud and should be prosecuted as such. - I like big Botts
Of course I would Melanie. I hate when "psychics" dupe people out of money in their frauds as well. Anything that masquerades as science which clearly isn't gets on my nerves. However, to your point, I suppose I'd be willing to allow Homeopathy to exist as long as its practitioners are required to clearly state that its effects are placebo in nature and that no taxpayer money ever go to it. - iTad from fftogo
I'm with Glen. This stuff is pure nonsense. Just because fools and their money are easily parted doesn't mean it should be legal. - Matt M (inactive)
Blind allegiance to "science" is hogwash. You might as well as believe in some mystical being in the sk... HEY WAIT A MINUTE HERE - *misquotes Akiva* - Laura Norvig
By Melanie's reasoning, I can take advantage of the poor choices of seniors and start bilking them out of their retirement savings. I'd hate to see the nanny state get involved in the personal choices of seniors. - Matt M (inactive)
Laura N, That is another concern I have: blind allegiance to science. It is coming to that and I find that very disturbing as they have been wrong so many times with dire results to many. They certainly were in my case as they were when they convinced my parents to remove my tonsils. As they were when they misdiagnosed me for a number of years. As they were when they misdiagnosed a... more... - Melanie Reed
There's nothing wrong with gambling on unproven alternatives when the statistically beneficial solutions aren't working (though not with tax dollars), but alternative solutions should be properly labeled, with no false claims. But the pure modern definition of homeopathy is BS and should be illegal to claim benefits beyond placebo and entertainment value. - Tinfoil 2.0
Melanie, you make it sound like "science" is one hive mind with *one* opinion on every subject. I'm sorry about your friend, but your anecdotes doesn't prove anything else than that doctors aren't perfect. People have been misdiagnosed in the past and people will be misdiagnosed in the future. Misdiagnosis are nearly always human errors made because doctors don't posses all the... more... - Eivind
Eivind, I would like to respond to this more fully but I have an apt coming up that I need to prepare for so I'm going through things quickly. With respect, my concern is that over the past few years, science has raised her self into thinking that she is the "mother of all disciplines" and her mistakes which are at times tragic and gargantuan are often glossed over and blame shifted.... more... - Melanie Reed
science is a process, not a tool. i think you're projecting a bit melanie (science as god?) - any mistakes made by man in pursuit of truth using science are just that - mistakes made by man. the scientific method is a process that has been proven to be the most reliable and successful method of thinking in known history. if a doctor doesn't make the correct diagnosis that's not... more... - Chris Heath
It is interesting to note that "New Scientist" is reporting on this event that is essentially a stunt, hardly a controlled and repeatable experiment with verifiable results. - Jason Wehmhoener
Wow, New Scientist, welcome to the present. - Akiva
Hmm, say what? - Jason Wehmhoener
A homeopathic treatment for AIDS: 1 drop of AIDS tainted blood in the ocean. Everyone infected person the world takes a sip. No more AIDS (now does that seem even slightly credible to you, because it sure doesn't to me) - April
Melanie, for matters of fact and reason, there is no other basket in which to put our eggs. - Tinfoil 2.0
LogEx, After a time, you may too find, that when facts don't always add up and reason alone can wind us up in circles, we always have a higher wisdom to which we can appeal if we want to. The relief one finds is that we are not stuck with only one fragile basket of our own making. So that when there is something we can't see or understand, we don't always have to grope for it in the dark where our instruments crude or sophisticated could miss it, we could ask. - Melanie Reed
Zee.
Tell me this isn’t the one of the coolest buildings you’ve ever seen. - http://www.zee.me/blog...
Tell me this isn’t the one of the coolest buildings you’ve ever seen.
cool - Mike Nencetti
where is it? - Coƺla
haven't got the foggiest. - Zee.
BOOYAH! http://gizmodo.com/301101... (It's in China) - Chieze Okoye
oh, awesome, thank you - Coƺla
Cool it is ! - TrafficBug
شاندیز - Vicey
worst architecture ever :D - Shandiz
یادمه حسین دقیقا اینو یه بار بهم رونوشت داده بود - Shandiz
just a little bit too analogical? :D - shannafra
Kol Tregaskes
Morten Prom
Bret Taylor
Happy holidays from the FriendFeed crew! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
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Thanks to Kevin for another great logo... - Bret Taylor
YAY! Snowmens! - Yolanda
Cool logo! :) - AJ Batac :)
I think they need scarves. They look cold. - Yolanda
Great logo! Simple and fun. - Brandon Titus
great :) çok sevdim bu logoyu :) - Burak Budak
Cool :D - Pedram
Kevin - that is an awesome logo!!!!! - Susan Beebe
+102 for Bill Waterson references in picture Kevin or words Sinterclas - SteVe C
cute but what happened to festivus this year? - Laura Norvig
Merry Christmas to the FriendFeed team. You guys rock! FriendFeed reacts quickly and you're adding wonderful features all the time (Thanks soooo much for the "edit" feature.) - Mitchell Tsai
Happy Festivus! - ◄ani625Ξ ಠ_ಠ
Happy festive season to you all as well :) - Niki Costantini
Happy Holidays!!! - David Cook
love it~ - Sunny
Love!!! - Bee
Glad you like it! (And glad people picked up on the Waterson influence :-) - Kevin Fox
Merry Christmas! :D - Ron
Happy Holidays FF crue -- you've made this an excellent and memorable year for many of us. Facebook couldn't have done it without you! :) - Christopher Galtenberg
w00t you gave me the best online year in 15 years!!! ;p Thanks a lot, everyone, for what you've done here XD - Zu from AOD
Merry Christmas to all - Craig Eddy
Merry Christmas! - Svein Håvard Djupvik
Haha! I love horrified snowmen. Merry Christmas to FriendFeed! - Chris Lasher
Joyeux Noel a tout le monde! - Mathieu Ayel
Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! - Anne Bouey
Feliz navidad a ti! - JA Castillo
Thanks! Happy Holidarys! Merry Christmas! - Bill Romanos
happy christmas, chanukah and kwanzaa. - D. Eda Goze
happy chrismas and a happy new year!!! - ethan meccage
Awwwww sniff - Kevin Fox
Happy holidays! Take good care of yourselves and... enjoy those days off! <o> \o, - Zu from AOD
Merry Christmas! - Ian May
Tks and love you all !!! - @Renchin@
ahh, the good ol' days. - MikeAmundsen
Happy Holidays FriendFeers! <superbump /> - AJ Batac :)
cool!! - Ferzvladimir
*bump* - imabonehead
Sigh. Sometimes it is the little touches, like seasonal logos or easter eggs, that mark a site as a living project, and that you really miss when the developers have all moved on to something else. - Michael R. Bernstein
ای جان چقدر خوبه این - WALL.E
1 yıl geçmiş üzerinden bretim taylorum vay anasına dimi.. - Taylan GERDAN (Tylolhot)
Chris Farrugia
Raoul Pop
Emma
End of British Summer Time marked with autumnal glow | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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Chris Nixon
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Leaping wolf snatches photo prize - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Leaping wolf snatches photo prize
Talk about a lucky shot! - Chris Nixon from Bookmarklet
Amazing. - Roberto Bonini
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You have good taste. Love the second shot specially. - Ricardo Liberato
Chris Nixon
Take a view - Landscape Photographer of the Year award - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs...
Take a view - Landscape Photographer of the Year award
The winner was taken on the Isle of Skye by Emmanuel Coupe and is titled: Sunrise over the Old Man of Storr, Isle of Skye, Scotland. - Chris Nixon from Bookmarklet
Overprocessed crap Delete - Ricardo Liberato from iPhone
I strongly suspect that this would be deleted in DMU. But they've deleted many of those considered the world's finest photographers in the past so no surprise there. - Thomas Hawk
It's so...uhhh... shiny... :S - Stephanie Keating
LOL delete. Everything interesting is on the right. - Ryan MacLean
Why Thomas, do you think that this is anything but a corny piece of crap? - Ricardo Liberato
It's been proven time and time again that "good" photographs aren't necessarily popular, and that works from famous artists don't always hold their own outside of a collection. - Ryan MacLean
That said, this might actually get saved. - Ryan MacLean
i like the one with the joggers, pretty good b&w shot. - Mo Tabesh
I suspect the judges like HDR... - Adam Harrison
Chris Nixon
PhotoSketch is an internet-based program that can take the rough, labeled sketch on the left and automagically turn it into the naff montage on the right. http://gizmodo.com/5374890...
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In this case I'd have stuck with the original, but the idea is pretty amazing. - Chris Nixon
I tried to get into this a little while ago but it seemed offline. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas Hawk
anna sauce
I have a ton of photos of this place, but this one stuck out at me. The interesting thing about this building is that it was owned by the same family from The Netherlands for like, 100 years or so, then sold maybe 10 years ago to the Francis Ford Coppola franchise/business. Zoetrope magazine is on one of the floors, as is his wine restaurant on the first floor. It's withstood gentrification and remodelling- compared to all other buildings around it, because it had the same remote ownership (aka slumlords). - anna sauce
Yes I am a local history geek. - anna sauce
Yes, that is an exceptional photo of that building. - Jeremy Brooks
Architect friend last night gave me an interesting factoid about this building: FFCoppolla poured vats and vats of horse piss on the copper to prematurely age it. - anna sauce
That, at least, is what she thinks when she looks at it: horse piss. - anna sauce
Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu
I really missed the word "cloud" alone. i.e. without "computing" or anything related to computers besides it. Thanks. - directeur
beautiful! - comix aka martha
muhteşem... - Delfina
Eirik H. Urke
Skuffa over at myggspray-appen for iPhone ikke funker på mygg. Men er tross alt kulere enn myggstiften som heller ikke funker.
Thomas Hawk
7 Ways FriendFeed Could Better Engage the Flickr Community - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
7 Ways FriendFeed Could Better Engage the Flickr Community
My friend Robert Scoble has a blog post out talking about the reasons why FriendFeed is not seeing the sort of growth that Twitter and Facebook are. Personally I consider FriendFeed to be a vastly superior platform to both Facebook and Twitter, but it is interesting noting that it does not seem to be getting the traction of these other services. That said, I think that there is a huge opportunity for FriendFeed to better engage a very large existing community that is Flickr and to offer power user sort of tools for Flickr’s most active users. I’ve already written in the past about how I think the existing version of FriendFeed represents a superior way for people to browse Flickr than Flickr itself, but I think that FriendFeed could go a lot further and could definitely attract more (and super active) Flickr users if they improved things even more. So this list represents seven ways that I think FriendFeed could build a better way to engage with the Flickr Community. It should be... more... - Thomas Hawk
I gave up browsing Flickr when I found FriendFeed well over a year ago. I have many, many groups for browsing photography on FriendFeed. In particular my Flickr Photography group: http://friendfeed.com/flickr-... - Kol Tregaskes
Agree about importing your Flickr contacts, been asking for that for eons. Similar request for importing non-FF Twitter friends would be cool too. I've manually added my favourite Flickr photographers, a chore, so an automated feature would be most welcome. - Kol Tregaskes
Freind Feed is great at being Freind Feed and Flickr is great at being Flickr - Kevin J Hatton
Quick tip if you do import your Flickr streams as a custom RSS into FF, use Ivan's Feed-Buster: http://feed-buster.appspot.com/ to get larger thumbnails. - Kol Tregaskes
Kevin I disagree. Both are great services for what they are. But Flickr no longer innovates. They are a static service sort of on autopilot. There's a need for power users to grow beyond what Flickr currently offers and fortunately Flickr has a robust API where these users can flock to things like greasemonkey scripts and FriendFeed to improve their Flickr experience. People like Kol... more... - Thomas Hawk
Agree with point 6 too. That would be cool. Also the ability to separate Flickr user's favourites and their own photos would be most welcome. I like to have a group for each separately. - Kol Tregaskes
I actually wish FF would not import Flickr photos in batches. They wouldn't do that with any other kind of imported media, and I think it makes it difficult to have any sort of engaging discussion around photos on FriendFeed. - Michael Hocter
how would you suggest they import flickr photos instead Michael? - Thomas Hawk
Point 7 sounds interesting. The saved searches are OK but the Best of Day/Week/Month feature would be great for this if it worked on searches. - Kol Tregaskes
One at a time, just like they do any other feed item. I understand why this would be a pain for Flickr favorites and people who post in huge batches at a time, but most of us only post a few photos at a time. - Michael Hocter
I like being able to see the Flickr favorites of other FFers since I find new and interesting Flickr users that way, much more than I do through Flickr itself. I don't mind having them come in batches. A particularly interesting photograph can always be given its own post. - John (bird whisperer)
Michael, I'm OK with that, what annoys me though is when it imports a batch, you go fave more then it reimports them and removes the old import with all the comments and likes. I'd like to fave a batch of pics, force a redresh, then fave some more then force another refresh and have both these come in as separate batches. - Kol Tregaskes
I guess I think showing photos one at a time would be super noisy. For someone like me who imports about 300 photos into Flickr a week this would mean 300 separate entries on FriendFeed. I think that would detract from the overall FF user interface and experience. I think they are doing the batch posting fine now, but it's just that they are doing it backwards and opposite of how flickr shows photos on Flickr. - Thomas Hawk
Michael, use an RSS feed of your stream with he Feed-Buster service, that's exactly what you're after. - Kol Tregaskes
Having Flickr photos come one at a time would be really annoying, at least for me. It would crowd out everything else in my feeds. - John (bird whisperer)
Thomas, like my stream from vi.sualizue.us? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Another feature I'd like: In search, I wish I could separate Flickr uploads from Flickr favorites. I prefer to talk to the people who actually take and upload the photos, but when you search, the majority of photos you see are from Flickr favorites. - Michael Hocter
Kol, your vi.sualizue.us stream rocks! - Thomas Hawk
Michael, agree. I've never been able to separate the two. - Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, thanks Thomas. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Michael I agree with that idea as well. I think maybe the two can be one by default, but give users an option to split them if they want. I'd much rather be able to view the two independently. - Thomas Hawk
@Michael - yes! I prefer to know which are faves and which are posts. - JA Castillo
There are many ways FF could be improved to help us photo-happy people (and most features would benefit the community in general), such as the ability to search for entries with pictures *only* (on it's way I believe), search by date/time, be able to search by selective imported feeds, e.g. I cannot search for my vi.sualize.us images only, etc. - Kol Tregaskes
FF could even go further and let you sign into flickr and then you can like and comment and it flows back to flickr - Phill Price
hear hear Phill - Thomas Power
It would be pretty slick if I could hover over a photo on FF and fave it on flickr. I think that would take more than basic API stuff though. - Thomas Hawk
@Phill - that would be too much!! I would never leave FF! :) - JA Castillo
For me, FriendFeed needs to improve for new users. For instances the suggested users list is not the way to go and the lack of introduction to the service's features upon registration is virtually non-existent. When a new user has completed registration it needs a quick and simple Flash anim to demonstrate FF's basic features (an adapted version of one of Ross' videos would be cool),... more... - Kol Tregaskes
Faving a Flickr photo on FF would be super!! - Kol Tregaskes
JA, exactly. ;-) But that lies the problem, Flickr perhaps wouldn't want that? - Kol Tregaskes
The suggested users list on FF definitely needs to incorporate activity and not just popularity. That's a whole other subject though. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, yep. Sorry going off in all directions. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I suspect Flickr could be resistant to some of these ideas. After all, attention on the internet is a zero sum game and making FF that much better for hardcore flickr users could siphon off traffic from them. Still, I bet a bunch of this could be done through the API as it stands now. - Thomas Hawk
I prefer to see at least a medium-sized version of a photo before I fave it, so I doubt I would fave through FF if such an option existed. Agreed with most of Thomas's seven suggestions. - John (bird whisperer)
John, yep, bigger versions of the pics are needed, would that watch in the current batches? - Kol Tregaskes
bigger versions would indeed rock. It would be nice to have a user setting though to either see small thumbnail photos are larger photos. This way the people who are not as interested in the photos as some of us could still choose to see them small. In fact small should probably be the default with a user option to view them larger instead. - Thomas Hawk
I kind of like the thumbnail batches, and being able to choose which to click through. My comment was specifically about faves – it's hard to pick favorites from just thumbnails. - John (bird whisperer)
Another thing I'd like to see changed (or at least be toggleable) is the feature what hides entries under 'more form <service>' on lists. I have lots of photo-related groups in one friends list and having them hidden like this is annoying. Also the hiding of the Flickr photos in the batches is annoying too. Personally I'd like this expanded all the time but a toggle would be nice. I appreciate this might be set-up as it is because of performance. - Kol Tregaskes
Thomas, agree. - Kol Tregaskes
More user options for controlling the display of Flickr photos would be helpful. - John (bird whisperer)
I'm kind of disappointed in Friendfeed. Too much focus on competing with Twitter, and not enough on what was originally the core idea of aggregating services. And sadly they've de-emphasized service integration so much that I wonder if they'll even keep doing it, let alone improve the integration. And Flickr, for that matter, sucks too - Thomas hit the nail on the head above, Flickr has... more... - Eric P
Eric, I think you're right about Flickr. Flickr's mostly been laying people off these days. They laid off designer George Oates, Engineer Rev Dan Catt, and lots of the other original talent there has left, Cal Henderson, Stewart Butterfield, Eric Costello, Kakul Srivastava recently left the helm of the site as well to work on other things at Yahoo. The last innovative thing that they... more... - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, thanks for taking the time to write this up - Bret Taylor
Bret, you're welcome. I think you guys have the best opportunity to drive a lot more Flickr users over here. - Thomas Hawk
Hey TH, as always, great ideas from you about improving FriendFeed. I've always felt it's a great adjunct to Flickr. Personally, my social community isn't here (can't get them to join), so FF isn't as useful for me as I'd like it to be (or as it is for people like you and Scoble, etc). Friendbinder is what I've been using to navigate my Flickr contacts (it auto-pulls them all in, and... more... - Criz
Hey Criz, thanks. I'd obviously love to see more innovation via flickr come through FF and especially directly at flickr. Good to know that you guys are working on more than just new buttons. In terms of hiring, the only hire that I'm aware of Flickr announcing in the last year or so (unless I missed it somewhere) was zycster in the "abuse" "customer care" "censorship" bureau vs. the... more... - Thomas Hawk
Rutger, I suppose, adding video was a feature, unfortunately though I think that it was a feature at odds with the flickr community that many in the community saw as more of a negative than a positive. There was a pretty strong and vocal group opposing adding video on Flickr. I've only ever used video on Flickr once (ironically yesterday). Here again, videos are crippled to 90 seconds... more... - Thomas Hawk
I think FF on the other hand has offered us already fairly substantive improvements to the Flickr experience. Being able to see *all* of your flickr contact's photos vs. only the most recent 1 or 5 is huge. So is letting us see our contacts faves. Ideally though we'd get continued innovation from both Flickr AND outside developers like FF building on the Flickr API to best improve the... more... - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, I am zyrcster, and I am not on abuse :) And I think you'll enjoy what's coming down the pike. I hope so, anyway. - Criz
Ah, ok, zyrcster. Hopefully it's something good. I thought you were part of the moderation/customer service / abuse/ censorship dept based on the thread in flickr help. I should re-read that thread. Hard to know who's who on the flickr staff when flickr codes the public "about flickr" staff page to purposely hide staff members from me personally. I hope that coding project didn't take much time away from all that innovation going on over there. - Thomas Hawk from iPhone
Rutger, Flickr RSS feeds only contain public, "safe" photos... definitely not all of my contacts' photos - Michael Hocter
Hmm, never knew that, there should be 2 versions of the feed then so we can choose. - Kol Tregaskes
In fact, I can't even get a decent RSS feed of my own photos out of Flickr because many of them are not "safe" - Michael Hocter
Or is there an issue from Flickr's point of perspective having such content go outside it's site? - Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I think it's because they can't authenticate who you are or what your preferences are through RSS - Michael Hocter
I see. They could have a password protection/authenticated feed but FF doesn't support such feeds. - Kol Tregaskes
LOL, Mrsth, that's over censoring stuff! - Kol Tregaskes
that is actually a problem on Flickr's end. They've been censoring your RSS feed now for years. They won't allow any content deemed "adult" to be sent out of Flickr via RSS. It's incredibly stupid in my opinion. I'd love to be able to subscribe to Merkely's nudes (which very much are fine art) for instance and even though I've checked on Flickr that I'm an adult and want adult content... more... - Thomas Hawk
haha, actually Kol that was me. I was accidentally logged in as my wife though, just got home and was using the home computer. - Thomas Hawk
What happened there? Posting from your wife's acount? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Ah, hehe!! - Kol Tregaskes
Now the thread reads oddly. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I don't know about you, but I really wish vi.sualize.us would implement FF's SUP or FF spider those streams more often. I end up having to manually get FF to pull them in after I've favorited a bunch or it takes *forever* for them to finally be pulled into the FF stream. - Mark Philpot
I've not really checked my vi.sualize.us groups, is there a delay in importing? - Kol Tregaskes
you certainly can easily add a photo as a favourite through the api - all you need is the photo id and the user to have given ff a token by signing in... http://www.flickr.com/service... - Phill Price
Ah, I did have an issue with my watchlist from vi.sualize.us. I notified them and they checked it and it started working. Are you having problems, Mark? - Kol Tregaskes
How recent was this? I've just been in the habit of manually refreshing my vi.sualize.us feed. Next time I'll try letting FF get it on it's own and see how long it takes. - Mark Philpot
Mark, a few weeks ago. I'd buzz them on their site and let them know you are having problems too. Works fine for me atm but they said they are keeping an eye on it. - Kol Tregaskes
BTW, people on this thread might be interested in this group for vi.sualize.us most popular entries feed: http://friendfeed.com/visuali.... It seems to import dups a lot, which is a problem but it's not a huge issue. - Kol Tregaskes
So I can now check vi.sualize.us on FF too. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thomas, could probably do something similar for your Zooomr too. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I just added six to my vi.sualize.us favorites... I'll see how long it takes for them to get imported. -- And a note to any FF developers on this feed -- Please implement a "Comment" link at the bottom of the comments. Especially for long comment streams, it's a pain to have to scroll up to the top to add a new comment. - Mark Philpot
Mark, OK, any issue go to the vi.sualize.us, they'll help you out. It's their feed after all. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
If you authenticate with the Flickr API you can get at the "unsafe" photos, FYI. But that would require a deeper level of integration that Friendfeed offers today. - Eric P
+1 faving a Flickr photo on FriendFeed - Thierry R. Andriamirado
FF is not seeing the growth other services are seeing because it is not designed for the casual, non-technical user the way flickR, Twitter, and Facebook are. An average person can "walk up" to any of those three services and get them almost immediately. By "get them" I don't mean that they understand deeply/optimally how or why to use them but that they can readily get their heads... more... - Anthony Citrano
Mitchell Tsai
Crab Pulsar Wind Nebula [APOD: Astronomy Picture of the Day - 12/27/08] - http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod...
Crab Pulsar Wind Nebula [APOD: Astronomy Picture of the Day - 12/27/08]
The Crab Pulsar, a city-sized, magnetized neutron star spinning 30 times a second, lies at the center of this remarkable image from the orbiting Chandra Observatory. The deep x-ray image gives the first clear view of the convoluted boundaries of the Crab's pulsar wind nebula. Like a cosmic dynamo the pulsar powers the x-ray emission. The pulsar's energy accelerates charged particles, producing eerie, glowing x-ray jets directed away from the poles and an intense wind in the equatorial direction. Intriguing edges are created as the charged particles stream away, eventually losing energy as they interact with the pulsar's strong magnetic field. With more mass than the Sun and the density of an atomic nucleus, the spinning pulsar itself is the collapsed core of a massive star. The stellar core collapse resulted in a supernova explosion that was witnessed in the year 1054. This Chandra image spans just under 9 light-years at the Crab's estimated distance of 6,000 light-years. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet
Nice to have you back, Mitchell! :) Missed your quality shares. - Jemm
Thanks Jemm. I've been trading the stock market & posting lots of boring world news & economics articles... :-) Nice to have time to surf photography sites again and see what everyone at FriendFeed is discovering. I just subscribed to another ~50 people here at FF. It's an amazing community. - Mitchell Tsai
Slightly larger version [792x792] http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod... - Mitchell Tsai
Devon Campbell
Review: Incase Power Slider battery backup case - http://arstechnica.com/journal...
Review: Incase Power Slider battery backup case
"The accessory market has responded to Apple's challenge of getting an entire day's use out of the iPhone 3G with a range of external batteries. Some function as "dongles" that attach to the bottom, while others are built into protective cases that, upon first glance, look as though their designers were drawing blueprints while under the influence. Incase's Power Slider is neither of these things." - Devon Campbell from Bookmarklet
sexy! Best one yet, props to the team who came up with this :-) - vijay
Looks stunning. This would make a nice case, let alone that it's a battery back up as well. Nice! - Fox Tucker
$99 they say but it adds .4 inches to the width. - Amani
Looks great! Am I just seeing things or is that a standard USB B port at the bottom as well? Useful for just charging with more available cables and other secondary charging sources. Amazing if it enables syncing via that port as well! - Jamie Dool
@Jamie I believe the port either charges the battery or syncs. There is a button on the case that you hold for a few seconds. After that, the data is passed through. - Devon Campbell
I held it today at the Apple store in SF. It's extremely light and has a good fit and finish but it does add a noticeable thickness to the phone that I'm not sure I want in my standard front pocket carrying location. - Jamie Dool
Just bought it and LOVE it. Don't mind the thickness. Much better than carrying around a dead brick! - Ryan Brack
I could NOT use my iPhone without this; otherwise, with all of my "pushing" and surfing and music-ing, my phone did not last past 5PM, and that is no exaggeration. Thus, when I saw this and some positive reviews, it was a no-brainer. Now, I run my phone in the same way I did before but with the brightness cranked to the top, the wireless on at all times and at 5PM I'm usually still at 100% battery. Fantastic product (although I did see some pictures of new, thinner ones out or coming out...)! - Brandon Blattner
I wonder when the new thin ones will come out. I just got a case today but I would spring for the newer thin ones. Any idea? - Amani
Just picked up one of these today as a result of needing to go to the genius bar for something else... can't wait for it to finish charging!!! - JR
Tested the device on the 3GS and it works fine. Actually it will work on all three generations. Prior to OS 3.0, I used to get a message on the 2G when connected 'not made for this device' or something, but haven't seen it again since upgrading to 3.0. However it doesn't really fit the 2G design, as it is really made for the 3G/3GS forma factor, but it will work in a pinch! - JR
Robert Scoble
Maryam's relatives In Iran tell us they hear chants of "God is great." here is why that is significant:
They are yelling that because that is the same chant they would say during the revolution 30 years ago. They do that to make it clear their protests are aimed at the leaders, not at Islam. - Robert Scoble
Commercial break. - Blake
Who needs CNN? I've got Scoble on my radar. - Jason A. Nunnelley
i agree, God is great - joebrooks
they've been saying God is Great all week during the night. - geoff hines
"Allaho akbar" is what the cries say throughout the city. - Robert Scoble
it also helps people let others know they are all in it together. the loader the chants, the more people feel support among their countrymen. - Shayan
This is a way of telling the Supreme Leader that god is great but you are not. - Robert Scoble
Shayan: yup. Are you in Iran? - Robert Scoble
Robert, it's a defiant chant? - Jason Nunnelley
Jason: very defiant. - Robert Scoble
btw robert thanks for making CNN realize how much their were failing us.We appreciate it very much that you brought attention to the situation when it was starting to pick up - Shayan
islamic govt certainly cant ban ppl from shouting god is great; also carrying a koran might prevent you from being beaten in the streets... - Miko Matsumura
They are saying (from their subconscious): I can call on the bogeyman (that we both know doesn't involve himself in our petty issues) just as much as you - Greg Marlin
Miko, I'm not sure about the Koran protecting you from a beating. - Jason Nunnelley
These events are quite different than those we usually hear about coming from mideast. They tend to be about sunni vs. shiite, but this is people vs. government - Blake
Shayan: my voice was one of thousands. - Robert Scoble
yes I think it's reasonable to be skeptical of it, but possibly worth a try... - Miko Matsumura
they can't ban ppl from chanting GOD IS GREAT as they are doing this on roof top so its kindda uncontrolable/ and holding Quran is not that helpful as police or guards and plain cloth forces don't care - Shandiz
Robert: no. i wish I was there now. kinda feel helpless not being able to do much from here. I was there during the last student uprising (1999) and many died in vain last time. hope it's different this time around. - Shayan
Shayan, I think it's different than 99 this time. I hope the outcome is, and hope the government avoids bloody conflict -- I should say continued bloody conflict. - Jason Nunnelley
Shayan: I remember that. That time we didn't have YouTube. - Robert Scoble
Firk God / Santa Claus if you want to know how to make mayhem, message me and I'll give you the plans we should have implemented when Kenya rigged the elections (Zimbabwe and Iran only exist because the world let Kibaki steal) - Greg Marlin
the main benefit of the chants is that folks can express their support for the cause without being identified. most families would turn the lights out and start chanting. if you are identified, it doesn't matter what your chant says. you are still in danger. so is your family. - Shayan
It is such an amazing indication of how incredibly powerful social media is now. If this doesn't open the eyes of traditional journalists, I don't know that anything will. - Erik Boles
FriendFeed needs a troll button. :) - Jason Nunnelley
Robert, Shayan: what roll do you expect international attention will play in the conclusion? - Jason Nunnelley
Jason/Robert/Erik: exactly. I was telling some writer at San Jose Mercury the other day. last time something like this happened all the government had to do was shutdown 3 newspapers to kill the news. this time they are fighting thousands of citizen journalists. This is absolutely amazing... - Shayan
Shayan -- the peoples voice cannot be oppressed any longer. You hit the nail on the head. it used to be a one way statement, it is now a two-way conversation. - Erik Boles
there was a video of a woman reciting in the dark "where is this place?" also talking about the volume of Allahu Akbar chants on different nights - Eleanor Wynn
Jason: the international community's attention helps in many ways especially by putting pressure on the regime's friends such as Russia and China. It also gives people on the ground hope that somebody is hearing their cries. Human solidarity always helps those in peril and gives them more conviction. - Shayan
Jason: Iran's leadership has lost all respect in the world. Not that it had much but this will have deep impacts for years to come. There will be more resolve on nuclear issue now. Today Neda. Tomorrow YOU. - Robert Scoble
they are risking their lives, we are just watching intently, it is all we can do - Eleanor Wynn
Technology is a huge force that tyranny has a difficult time defending against. - David Damore
because it comes from so many hidden places - Eleanor Wynn
I believe the informational freedom (note people: freedom is taken, not granted) is most powerful in its ability to spark action in Iran. If the Iranian people stand together, they may create change. It is harder to kill a very large crowd than a single person. However, until recently, my fear was that the few brave Iranians were exposing themselves as targets for the government. With the numbers growing and continuing, they appear more hopeful for real change. - Jason Nunnelley
they just don't stop or go away - Eleanor Wynn
Jason: I would suspect you are correct. Initially it was just a protest, then as govt. operatives started killing people, it brought realization to the people of Iran, and they realized they had to stand together, for as long as it takes. - Erik Boles
Have you read the Peggy Noonan article in the WSJ yet? "Whose Side Are We On? You Have to Ask? - With Twitter's help, the youth of Iran take on the ayatollahs." - David Damore
David, technology is a tool that catalyzes other forms of action. Talking doesn't topple regimes. At some point people have to develop a plan of action and execute it. What they do, that is a big and scary question. This regime isn't going away any time soon without a big fight. - Jason Nunnelley
Quoting for the WSJ article: "Half the people in Iran are under 27." - David Damore
the videos are extremely compelling, more than still, you are there with the person filming and the people being filmed - Eleanor Wynn
and so many points of view, unlike news where it is the same clip over and over - Eleanor Wynn
Eleanor: I think that is the really powerful tool here. So many raw, unedited, unrehearsed video's directly from the streets. We have been at the mercy of big news post production for so long. - Erik Boles
that is the video, in the dark, the woman reflecting with the chanting in the background - Eleanor Wynn
Erik: I agree, after Twitter, going to the TV set seems lame - Eleanor Wynn
Eleanor, TV is lame. Diddo on that. - Jason Nunnelley
Funny, CNN is talking about this now. Sounds like lots in the city were chanting this last night. - Robert Scoble
Robert, what are the objectives of this revolution - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Aaman: to be heard. - Robert Scoble
To be precise, it might be too soon to call this a revolution, but in its nascent form, are there any signs of a leadership emerging, or stated principles? FWIW, I feel Mousawi cannot be the true face, unless he is seen as representing the principles of the original revolution - Aaman (Clone of FF)
The only thing that matters in Iran now is, will the military stay loyal to the govt. Everything else is irrelevant. - Bob Morris (polizeros)
Robert, Aaman: I'd assume there's some element of justice here as well. The people were granted a vote, told the election results would be respected, voted, and believe now that the government defrauded them. They have a moral standing, even under the most strict of loyalist perspective. At this point, since the government established elections in law, the government broke the law. Now... more... - Jason Nunnelley
It's one thing to be angry with your government. It's quite another to know the law of the land is on your side and your government is in violation. - Jason Nunnelley
http://su.pr/1Oufcn What is happening in Iran is not happening to just Iranians but to all of us. It is happening to the world. - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Perhaps I don't understand FriendFeed...I see "Here is why that's significant:" but I don't see any link or text after... - Tony Zito
@Tony Zito: The reason is in Robert's first comment. He posted the topic, then continued with the immediate comment to explain. - Mark H
The great thing about this whole episode is that it shows that Iran is a country of normal people - makes it very difficult for any future US government to bomb the hell out of it under the 'enemies of democracy' card. - Martin Bryant
A Prayer for Iran: Out of chaos Thou dost create divine beauty; amidst dire disorder Thou dost plant the seed of harmony that blossoms into sweet Peace. May you be Free. May you be happy. May you realize all that is good. - Meryl Steinberg
Free spirits cannot be chained - by any force of arms. The forces of tyranny may silence voices but they cannot silence the spirit. - Lorin Olsen
Well Said Lorin. - Garin Kilpatrick
Thomas Moen
Robert Scoble
I like the new Tweetdeck iPhone app for Twitter. What is your favorite Twitter app for iPhone and why? Tell us here:
My personal review is here: http://www.24100.net/2009... - Ralf Rottmann
tweetie - Roamlog
And here is why I continue to stay with... Tweetie! http://www.24100.net/2009... - Ralf Rottmann
twitterfon - simple and it works. - Taavi Uudam
Wish @atebits would do a FriendFeed client though. None of those available is half as good as what we've got for Twitter. - Ralf Rottmann
It was Tweetie, but now it's TweetDeck. - Nathan Chase
Definitely TweetDeck for me. - Nir Ben Yona
Tweetie is my favorite right now, but TweetDeck's cross-platform and now-mobile syncing is getting my attention. - Julio
I'm holding on to TweetDeck, even though it's a bit "crashy" right now. Have confidence they'll fix that. - Mark Traphagen
I just love the new Tweetdeck app ! - Jean-François Amadei
Julio hit it on the head - the syncing between platforms is the killer feature to beat - Nathan Chase
Love TweetDeck on iPod Touch! - Bob Starr
The sync between iPhone and desktop on TweetDeck is a cool feature - rshore
so far my favorite is Reportage. I have tweetdeck installed, but i find it difficult to read, not so with any other twitter client. TweetDeck remains on of my 2 favorite desktop clients, the other being the web client TwitZap.com - Guess Who
Tweetdeck if they can squash the bugs because the syncing is good news. Tie between Tweetie and Twittelator for now. - Warner Crocker
TweetDeck. Syncing to cloud, free. - Ben
Tweetie is favorite for best duplicating the desktop experience. But Tweetdeck has great potential with the syncing feature. It crashes too much right now. - Curt Moss
I've been happy using twitterfon, but I've been playing with tweetdeck, it looks like I might have to switch, syncing is a killer feature - Ken Power
I use Tweetie. The reviews I've seen of Tweetdeck make it seem a bit too much for the iPhone. Are those reviews wrong? - Curt Mercadante
Tweetdeck is the only iPhone app for twitter - planetMitch
I'm still sticking with Twitteriffic. I moved over to Twitterfon because it started lacking with features, but moved back when it finally got the update it so needed. Don't really know why i like it so much, just always have. Just wish they'd update the desktop version too. - Simon Wicks
Curt: it hasn't crashed on me yet. - Robert Scoble
Photogene because I can brand my photos with a text bubble before I upload. - Craig Shipp
Twittelator Pro: myriad of features including URL inline minification/expansion; configurable RT format, pic provider, URL minifier; copy&paste; saving drafts; tweet URLs from Safari; and many more. one of the best apps I have purchased. - Dennis Homann
Has crashed when using its browser feature - Mark Traphagen
My must have iPhone Apps are: > Tweetie > TwitterLink - Allows Safari URL Shortening via bookmarklets > TweetDeck Hopefully TweetDeck can incorporate a few of the missing compenents which are keeping me from dropping the other two apps. - Josh
Still tweetie. Tried others as they emerge, but the familliar interface to a desktop client, search, find user, favorite, trends all make it very powerful. A rework of the RT vs. Via is in order, but I can live with that. - Erik Boles
Definately TweetDeck since it's been launched - Michiel Sikkes
TweetDeck on the iPhone looks great, but I think it's pretty buggy. I constantly get the same notifications displayed and my groups got messed up (and then synced back to the desktop). But I'm looking forward to the next version. - Oliver Bouchard
Twitterrific without hesitating. Tried TweetDeck but still a little buggy in my opinion. - Nuno Ferreira
I use Twitterific and I'm pretty fine with it/ - Parth Awasthi
Tweetie. And, judging from the desktop client, it's only going to get better. - Justin Hileman
Twittelator. No other iphone app is as feature rich as this one. It also works well with backgrounder (from cydia). - Rohit
Twitterrific has to be the best with UI. - Rohit
I went from Twittelator to Tweetie and now to Tweetdeck on iPhone. Tweetdeck is the best thing out there right now IMO for hardcore tweeting, However, Tweetie still rules as a simple, elegant, beautiful UI, client for everyone else. - Dean Kakridas
Tweetie. TweetDeck for iPhone is nice and is a smooth port from desktop to smartphone, but Tweetie is cleaner to me, not as dark or cluttered. - David Price
Alex: yeah I use friendfeed a lot more than other Twitter clients, even on my iPhone. - Robert Scoble
i tried tweetdeck but i like Twittelator Pro more - Crusader
Switched to Tweetdeck after using Twitfon and Twitterific - Jim Haw
Tweetdeck, recent convert from tweetie. It crashes when you add someone to a group column is all. - Jay McCormack
TweetDeck needs Ping.fm integration for selective posting..it feels the lightest of the iPhone Twitter apps and feature wise I think it may now be the most complete..2nd fave is Tweetie. - George Dearing
I'm liking Tweetdeck also but I bounce around from Twitterific to Tweetie also. Like the multiple columns in Tweetdeck. - Jeff Gamble
Definitely Tweetdeck.. I wish I hadn't paid for tweetie.. - Can Koklu
TweetDeck after using TwitterFon for a while. Never used Tweetie and probably won't now. Background notifications on the iPhone would be cool. I can use it for @replys or DMs. - Rolf Schewe
Sadly, I don't have an iphone. Anyone know of a good free symbian app? - Pranav Bhasin
still using tweetie - have tweetdeck if I need to reference through my groups. but when i am mobile i usually only have time to pay attention to replies and directs - so speed and such is more important. Tweetie wins for me. - Tony
I like Tweetie. Nice streamlined interface. Although Tweetdeck is nice, I just haven't used it as much since it came out. - John Fox
Twitterfon, but I might try Tweetdeck now - Paul
I am still using Tweetie but just installed TweetDeck.. seems cool. - nickgs
Love new tweetdeck on iPhone but it's too crashy, darn it! - Susan Beebe
No mention of Nambu here. I use that on MacBook. Anyone use their iPhone client? What do you like/dislike about it? - Larry Hawes
I have tried Nambu but use Twittelator Pro and occasionally Twitterific. Tweetdeck would have to be exceptionally good to be better than either of those. - Gilbert Harding
Tried Tweetdeck (which is my desktop app) on iPhone for a couple of days. Too fiddly. Went back to Twitterfon. Really compact and streamlined. Now trying out Flock on desktop instead if Firefox/Tweetdeck combo. - Narain Jashanmal
it seems to crash every so often. - Francisco Kemeny
Although I have been playing with tweetdeck these past few days, I would still vote for tweetie - Thomas Chai
@Pranav Bhasin: Gravity is a good twitter app for symbian. - Hugh Macdonald
I'm using Tweetie, but edging closer to trying Tweetdeck. Tweetie does do everything I need right now. - Martha
TweetDeck! Used to be Tweetie, but TweetDeck is far better! - Farrell Kramer
I use TwitterFon (nonPro), but have been trying TweetDeck out. It is a little buggy as so far it has crashed out everytime I have used it, but I know this is v1 so am sure it will get better. I actually really like the interface as it is very well thought out. My only other gripe is that you need to go into a tweet's detail to go to a hyperlink, as opposed to twitterfon (and tweetie... more... - travispuk
Twitterrific 2.0 (The $4 Premium version). The UI is just spectacular. Combining all your replies and DMs in one stream, but still allowing them to be viewed separately, makes it really easy to interact with Twitter as a stream. Plus, more often than not, I find myself using the multi-post window to easily switch a DM to a reply, or vice versa. It's just great. - David Chartier
Twitterrific 2.0 , tweetie and Tweetdeck in that order - Wayne Sutton
TweetDeck, despite the occasional crashing, is my favorite right now. - Paul Maez
Tweetdeck for sure. I like the feel and look of it. - John Ford
Twitterrific and twitterfon for picking ppl across tweets to thank. - Dave Blankenship from BuddyFeed
I think I'm still partial to Twitterific - Matthew Vaughan
I use Tweetie. I tried TweetDeck but it crashed when doing what should have been simple operations. - Michael Koby
Reportage has a very refreshing approach. I love it - Guillaume Thoreau
oh Robert Robert... you should really add a poll to your threads from time to time :) as for your question: I have to say that TweetDeck is not my fav until someone new will launch a better app. - Orli Yakuel
I use Nambu because of Friendfeed integration, but if TweetDeck gets this I would definitely switch - Alberto Saavedra from Nambu
Had Twitterific and TwitterFon for seperate accts, but TweetDeck is the best of the bunch. - Dave Martinez
I bought Tweetie, but it seems limited after using other Twitter apps. My favorite is SimplyTweet, lots of features that work well and is being updated often. - Brandon from BuddyFeed
I was a Tweetie guy, but Tweetdeck may be replacing it for me. - Joey Gibson
I played with TweetDeck and liked it, but I simply don't use all of the custom panel stuff that it does, so Tweetie does the job for me just fine. The UI is awesome, responsive and (above all) simple. It does exactly what I want and, more importantly, what I expect it to do. - Brett Kelly
Tweetie : very stable and reliable. Does need a refresh but nice customization options make it for that. - Ashish
TweetDeck is my favourite app for the iPhone, although Tweetie is a close second. The sync feature and what I think is slightly better navigation through the different columns put TweetDeck ahead. TweetDeck is also free, which if I hadn't already bought Tweetie, may have had some importance. - Antoniu
I like Tweetie because if I get behind or want to see older tweets, I can just click "More" and it loads more of them. Can't figure out how to do that on the desktop version of TweetDeck, so I'm assuming teh iPhone version doesn't do it either. - RobinDotNet
I like Tweetie. I tried the new TweetDeck and couldn't get into it. So my combo is seesmic on the desktop and Tweetie on the iPhone. We'll see what happens when seesmic introduces their iPhone app, though. - Josh Asbury
Was twitterfon fan but the Tweetdeck groups sync is a winner. - Gregory Go from iPhone
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Cee Bee
THE REMOTE SETTLEMENT of Burketown, in Australia’s northern Queensland, is not the sort of place you’d expect people to travel thousands of miles to visit. With a population of just 178, Burketown sits in one of Australia’s most remote shires. But every September and October, a small group of individuals journey from all corners of the country for the appearance of a remarkable and dramatic cloud called the Morning Glory. Clouds don’t usually have names, nor are they normally linked to a particular location, but then the Morning Glory is no normal cloud. - Cee Bee
Looking like a huge white roll of meringue, it stretches up to 600 miles (about the length of Britain) and sweeps over Burketown at speeds of up to 35mph. The visitors who come to marvel at this beautiful and awe-inspiring meteorological phenomenon are an intrepid group of glider pilots, for whom the cloud promises the most unique and thrilling flying conditions of anywhere in the... more... - Cee Bee
WOW fantastic - Mahdi Ebrahimi
Amazing - Anna Haro
Pretty freaking cool - Jim Goldstein
Wow!! - Kol Tregaskes
Woeoeoewwweooowwew!!! - Susan Beebe
Great jobs on the photos - Patrick from twhirl
Neat !!! - Susan Beebe
love it - Manuela
OMG How did I miss this? Thanks. These are outstanding! - Anika
Steve Rubel
The Friendfeed gadget works in Gmail!
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whao sweet! - Zach Landes
I know. I am commenting on this from Gmail! - Steve Rubel
I don't know if a could deal with that tiny width, but it's cool nonetheless. ;) - Brandon
Lovely! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
should the url: http://friendfeed.com/embed... :) - Hobbes
I have successfully added - Hobbes
I can't find the page,it shows nothing when I open it up. - Steve Chou
But..how use this xml? - enrico
The links are not working anymore - just gives me a blank page? - Oyvind Solstad
How do I do this? - David Cook
Is there a real-time gadget? - Rolf Schewe
You need to go to Gmail | Settings | Labs | Add any gadget by URL | Enable - Carlos Granier-Phelps
i'm using it from months. It's really useful - Ikaro
Added! Thanks - Micah from twhirl
I wish I could add this gadget, but when I enable the Gadgets from any URL thing in Labs, I don't see the form to enter the URL under the Gadgets tab. Apparently several people have this problem (went to the Google Groups to add feedback that it's not working correctly), and no one has offered up any solution. :( Sucks! - Cheryl Jones
Finally get the idea,it is cool though,but not very practical. - Steve Chou
The URL tab is added to your settings area, not the Labs area. That was confusing for me. - Yolanda
That is so cool! For me, the only problem is the width which is not appropriate but it works fine - Rémi Fayolle
@Yolanda: I know. The description for the Labs item that you enable says that a Gadgets tab will be enabled on the Settings page, but clicking on that Gadgets tab doesn't show the form where you can enter the URL like it's supposed to. Bah. - Cheryl Jones
@cheryljones I'm having the same problem too. I just get a blank page on the gadgets tab. Let me know if you figure out how to import. - Al Stevens
@Al: Just for fun I went back to the Gadget tab in my Gmail settings, and the URL form box is there now. Just added the FriendFeed gadget to Gmail, yay! - Cheryl Jones
Hmmm. The FF gadget is less useful than I thought. First of all, there doesn't seem to be a way to manually refresh it without refreshing Gmail as a whole (perhaps I'm too impatient waiting for updates). Also you can't post an original post through the gadget. And the number of FF updates shown by the gadget is limited. I thought I'd be able to see older posts. Oh well, it might be good for occasional use. - Cheryl Jones
Nice, but wish the tabs in Gmail had replacing options.. - Reza
It's not enough wide for me. - Smeerch
A while ago it stopped refreshing properly so I stopped using it. - Cheryl Jones
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