According to Hitwise (not a particularly reliable source) Yahoo maps share was 41% in July 2005 and 13% in Jan 2008. Above link is for 2008. 2005 data is here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/ITFacts... - Simon
I'm astonished that Mapquest's market share is still > 50% - Ole Begemann
Typo in the heading: should be 41% not 40%, not that it really matters given the precision of Hitwise data... - Simon
Surprised at the popularity of Mapquest - site is pretty rubbish in comparison with competitors. - Richard Bradshaw
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Ever since Lazy Sunday declared that Google Maps was the best, the others were doomed. Double True! - Andy Roth
Can someone please explain the mapquest market share to me? And why are the numbers on marketingcharts.com (who also get their data from hitwise) slightly off? http://tinyurl.com/3prphn - sdfx
I guess it comes from all the Google maps mashups - Merrill
Do people still use Mapquest? Isn't that the internet map of 1998? - Keith Bilous
Mapquest is the epitome of Web 1.0 versus GMaps at 2.0 - Elliott Plack
I'm always amazed when I see someone still using Mapquest, but it happens more than you would think. - Bryan Clark
The last time I tried Mapquest, it was easier to read than Google Maps, and occasionally more accurate. I still use Google Maps most of the time, but I don't see much wrong with Mapquest's current product. Could you Mapquest haters enlighten me? - Amit Patel
I'm with Amit. There was a time when Google Maps' routing algorithms were so bad that I would have to tell people to use MapQuest to find my house. - Piaw Na
It's only hyper compared to the rest of the population. This is what should be normal. We're just ahead of the curve on the way to posthumanhood. - Tad - the Fresh Maker
if Scoble had written the study it would have mentioned FriendFeed ;) - Thomas Hawk
The actual study, which I downloaded, says " Not only is 16% of the global information workforce already 'Hyperconnected,' more significantly, another 36% will be joining them soon!" That 36% must be Scoble's followers! - Steve Rubel
By reading it here, all it means is that we've subscribed to Steve Rubel or one of his friends. If you were my only contact, would I still be hyperconnected? - Louis Gray
I made her list of devices, sites, and tools look weak. I must be Hyper-hyperconnected! Woo-Hoo! - Brad
Without seeing the site I can comfortably say yes - Elliott Plack
If I am, can I get a badge or sticker or something? Oh look, another update on Twitter.... - Bwana McCall
Louis: How many FriendFeed or Twitter users have only one contact? I'm asking seriously. - Brent Newhall
Ok, back. Someone make a logo or something. I want a t-shirt with this :) - Bwana McCall
@Brent, my guess is very few. I have no insight there. - Louis Gray
Most definitely I am... with the exception of a landline phone. Completely unnecessary. - Vince DeGeorge
DirecTV is also unnecessary. Canceled that 2 months ago. A media center PC with a dual HDTV tuner for network OTA programming and a Netflix subscription gets you better content for less money. - Thomas Hawk
At least their forward thinking. Now lets see if @leolaporte can beat Obama on there! - Elliott Plack
Facebook really needs to do something innovative soon... it has become a bit boring as T Hawk suggests - Ron Emrick
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Oooh goodie, now Scoble can accept my friend invite! ha, ha!! - Susan Beebe
I will accept all of them as soon as they turn this feature on. - Robert Scoble
And that's going to bring the excitement back to Facebook? - Morton Fox
No. I still am very concerned that Facebook kicks people off with no recourse. But this gets rid of one of my problems with Facebook. I hear a ton of new features are coming, too. - Robert Scoble
I haven't been on Facebook in probably 4 months. Deactivated my account after Beacon & Scoblegate broke. Shouldn't be that hard to delete your personal data. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
dropping Java support is quite telling - Dave Hodson
lol! And by early adopters you mean, people who were on it long after college students? We still use it. - Shawn Farner
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That explains why I don't understand the sudden disdain for Facebook. The cool kids are taking their ball and going home... no wonder it was a mystery. - Bwana McCall
Shawn: good point. OK, early adopters who were not college students. :-) - Robert Scoble
I've noticed a definite trend amongst college students, they'll hang out on Fb for about a year, and then they steadily use it less and less. Fb is geared for college, lots of people use it here and there, but kids currently in college are on it A LOT. - Shawn Kirsch
I never bothered with it to begin with... so cluttered. - TranceMist
I've stopped using facebook as well. It started feeling like MySpace. - Beau Liening
I just don't feel like I'm on the internet when I'm on Facebook. - Michael Turro
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To FB: turn off the firehose of app spam and vampire biting and we might come back - Christian Anderson
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While Friendfeed has many advantages over Facebook, Facebook has others over Frienidfeed. Facebook has a better developed repetoire of friend capabilities (before but also including chat). Friendfeed profiles pale in comparision to Facebook. The Friendfeed threaded conversations is a major advantage for them, witih the feed including many popular services. - Alex Hammer
but you get sucked into some of those apps with the returning of plants and eggs and superpokes and it starts to get painful and obligatory... - edythe
The developer issues for Facebook is centered around that their is now competition for the developer's resources at a time when the new rules are being enforced and the low hanging fruit has been picked. For users, the issues are that there are too many repetitive apps, too many apps that require use and propagation to get value and an interface that has issues under the weight of too many applications. - RAPatton
Facebook apps managed to spam out the early adopters... - engtech
Yes, the Facebook apps spammed me out. I now use Facebook like LinkedIn: I politely answer friend requests and occasionally post stuff. - Francine Hardaway
Facebook might get interesting again if Microsoft makes a play for it. - Rafe Needleman
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Facebook just functions as an address book for me. They squandered the opportunity to make newsfeed useful. Which is why we are all here. :) - Christopher Sacca
I use Facebook to reflect my friendfeed. That's it. I login once a month from the iPhone to see what's going on. - Magnus Jonsson
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e things in other places, as well. I've moved on certainly. - Rich Palmer
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I think tech savvy early adopters are moving off it, but a lot of the rest of the world is staying on it and moving onto it. Everyone I know knows what Facebook is and can understand what they get from it, even if they don't use it. No one I know who isn't a tech person knows or even understands what the point of twitter or friendfeed is. Different strokes and all that... it doesn't have to be a zero sum game, not yet at least. :) - felix
That's what early adopters do, they come, look around, and eventually move on. I still use Facebook to be social with the regular non-geek people that don't know about the other 5000 ways to be social on the web. - Shey
In a way it is such a shame that facebook has lost its momentum because that's where I was starting to find all my old friends, taking them elsewhere after that. If they don't register at the least techy site - will they register at all? - Alex von Halem
i completely disagree, robert. the early adopters of facebook were college students. "early adopter" bloggers didn't join until a year or two after facebook started from what i've seen. and facebook -- as far as i know -- is still dominating colleges. also, it's grown to more than 70 million monthly active users. in other words, early adopters in the tech world have never mattered to facebook, and they still don't. - Eric Eldon
It is sad that a consumer focused site is losing so much momentum, especially after picking up all of that Google tallent. I am beginning to believe that Yahoo has it right, here: social networking is a feature that should be implemented in a suite of services. The opposite--social networking is a platform on which serivces should be built--is bound to fail the test of time. Even with LinkedIn, I hate that my network is a destination rather than a useful resource. This will hopefully change with LinkedIn's developer tools, however. Could be LinkedIn make the same mistake... - James Urquhart
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Facebook needs to start providing content and become a true portal. Even your frinds get annoying after awhile. - Alex C. Williams
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I'm enjoying Facebook because ~90 of my dance friends have moved there from Tribe.net (fears of Tribe.Net collapsing due to lack of critical mass outside SF, and lack of funding). My 227 Facebook friends average age 37 (age 17-72+), so it's not quite the college set. I play rock-paper-scissors with an old Orchestra friend who's now a history professor in Texas. I can listen to my MSR friends "status" about their kids winning skiing awards or their surgery issues (and these MSR guys DON'T use Twitter). - Mitchell Tsai
My "geek friends" from 1976-2008 are 99% not on Twitter, much less FriendFeed. These guys mostly run MSR research areas, CTOs/CEOs of companies, CS professors, Internet lawyers... Many were major hackers in their day, & most of our population would call em "geeks". Only 1 out of all those geek friends uses Twitter, and he's a very light user. Facebook & LinkedIn statuses are great because I can hear if they are "feeling sick", see new pictures of their kids, or hear a blurb about their latest projects. - Mitchell Tsai
the comment that sums it all up? "I think everyone is just incredibly bored" nail/head. - Iain Baker
I'm reduced to playing with Brightkite. The humanity... - David Bisset
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FriendFeed has never gone down. Or even gotten slow. It's like the guys who started it worked at Google or something. Oh, wait, that's right, they did. - Robert Scoble
@Scoble: True enough. I wonder if they smuggled a HP Superdome out when they left the building. Or maybe 87 Linux boxes was their leaving present :-) - Andy C
@Scolbe: Watch it Robert, or you're going to jinx it. - David Bisset
Twitter out here, also. Good thing, because I have to get some work done. Hoohoo. - Cesar Cardoso
I didn't know about this until I saw this message. I tried going to m.twitter.com on my phone and got a 500 Internal Server Error. Didn't even get a birdie. - Ontario Emperor
@Scoble do you want Jaiku invitation? it is more reliable than twitter and some time ago moved to Google's infra... - silpol
silpol I've been on Jaiku since the first days. I like FriendFeed a lot better. - Robert Scoble
Robert, I'd love to see a demo of how you use FriendFeed - I keep trying to move over but just can't figure out a productive way to use it. - Jesse Stay
@Scoble i wish FF gets sms mechanism for push one day, as twitter or jaiku - silpol
Jesse, I'm writing a blog post right now about one aspect: liking and commenting. - Robert Scoble
I'm excited to see it - I'd also love to see how you browse your feeds. When do you use Twitter vs. Friendfeed, Reader, etc.? - Jesse Stay
Jesse: I don't have a set routine. I watch FriendFeed the most, though. I also use Google Reader quite often, watch Twitter on either Twhirl or Google Talk or Tweetscan (not to mention FriendFeed), and still look at TechMeme too. I just posted the thing about listening on FriendFeed on my blog at http://scobleizer.com - Robert Scoble
I've started watching both friendfeed and socialthing - playing with both trying to work out which best suits my needs. It is quite possible that both will, but it also means seeing duplication. - Mick Adams
i watched frienfeed, socialthing, and twhirl and kept refreshing twitter. all this after working 12 hours. maybe i have a problem. - lisa church
reminds me of a display I saw at the guggenheim a few years ago showing a stream of lines off of websites and IRC based on a word like Love, Hate, etc... interesting - Sean Reiser
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Try bTT! the ultimate FriendFeed-Twitter client :-) - PlaTyPuS
Hmm, both 7.9 and 8 have a problem displaying new tweets after a few minutes. scrolling down then up makes them magically appear... - Rick Mahn
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@Rick Mahn Noticing the same and it's irritating me - Corvida
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its good, still needs filters to remove double tweets from people in friendfeed and twitter, and I should be able to see all the comments without needing the browser. Isn't that the point of a desktop app? no browser usage? - BCK
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Using Twhirl Version 0.8... It's great! The only thing I would like more is the ability to use one feed which would push FriendFeed and Twitter into the same stream and allow me to post to both from the same stream! - Dustin Mooney
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Good stuff - nice addition! I would love to have it in a single integrated window with some nice filtering, but the addition of FF is a nice start. - Kevin Johnson
Can I suggest to make it an option to combine the windows? I would want the feedfriend to be separate to my twitter - I also want to be able to decide to have one open and one closed. Like you can now for different twitter accounts. Sure make it an option to do so but also not to. - Dave Gray
Working well most of the time. The friend feed window sometimes locks up when I try to navigate between friends and any of the other view buttons. OS X 10.5 Intel. Anyone else have those problems? - Jeremy Kunz
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Yeah, seems that there must be a fair load on the servers - Dave Gray
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I like Alert Thingy's UI better but if twhirl goes single-window, it'll be hard to beat. - Akiva Moskovitz
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I must say, I do prefer Alert Thingy (still). It looks prettier and i like that it expands comments in its own window instead of going to the FF site like twhirl. If I wanted that, I'd be using the site not twhirl. Still, the first client to integrate twitter/FF into one stream, and eliminate duplicate tweets will get my vote - David Adam
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If you follow too many Twitters and FriendFeeds, there is a need to have two windows to sort out everything. How about having the option to use one or two windows. Two windows works for me. - Freddie Avalos
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Interesting point Freddie makes. Perhaps remove the Twitter messages from FF if you allow merged Windows. That way you only see the Twitter messages once. - Richard Giles
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Perhaps the combined window could be an option. I don't know which I would prefer. Right now, I think I like the two windows. But, as others have said, it will be great when we are able to filter out Twitter messages so they don't show up on FriendFeed window as well as the Twitter window. - Gregory Pittman
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Loic, please get Twhirl to open links in a new tab, not a new window. Skype can do it. - Mick Liubinskas
Why does Twhirl insist on using IE instead of my default browser (Flock)? is it only me? gngngngn - Metta (Kamath)
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Thanks for the release! I wish it has "per web service" filtering just like MySocial 24x7. That would make the thing much more useful.. :) - Leon Ho
Not sure if this is the best place to comment about this, but on MacOSX 10.5.2, there's some weird kerning issues in the FF comment box, specifically with the 'w' eg where is that space coming from - http://skitch.com/jordanbrock/... - Jordan Brock
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would also be great to collapse a FF notification, because this particular one looks like it is going to consume the top of my FF window for a while, and I'd like to see others :) - Richard Giles
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So what's it gonna be, thwirl or alert thingy? both have pretty much the same features now I guess.. - Leo Koivulehto
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Hidden entries integration keeps me with Alert Thingy for the moument. I'll also add my voice to having the option to combine windows, auto removing the dupes, and expanding comments in the client. - Tony Miller
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And I really hope one or the other lets you sort by service soon. - Tony Miller
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Great ! I'd like to filter some services... You know like Twitter that appears twice (Twitter and FriendFeed window)... - Sanji (Jean-Daniel S.)
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Also, both clients are missing an in client player for the things like YouTube favorites and Seesmic posts. Come to think of it, the only reason I end up keeing either client running is for the desktop notifications. Other than that the Friendfeed website itself is still a much better experience. But I guess its all still new and will be sorted out over time. - Tony Miller
Not a lot of luck getting this to work. Comes up fine but doesn't update the screen, unable to open anything. - 2WheelTech
Thanks Loic, now go to bed! PS your comments about.. comments reminded me of an idea. It would be cool to be able to post comments on twhirl back to twitter, when replying to a twitter comment, as you can in the FF web app. ...via twhirl - Elliott Plack
Elliott, yes, I already suggested this to Marco who created Twhirl - Loic Le Meur
Great news! Thanks for the quick reply! ...via twhirl - Elliott Plack
c'est très sympa de penser à nous Loic ;) j'espère bientôt avoir la possibilité de lire les vidéos Seesmic directement sous twhirl ... c'est dans les cartons ça ?? ...via twhirl - Denis COUTURIER
I agree with your suggestion that they do not Michael. While I'm no lawyer, I believe that free speech only applies in the public realm, as companies are free to censor email and the like. It is funny however when people cry foul when forum and blog comments are censored. ...via twhirl - Elliott Plack
While they don't have such right, it should be transperant what kind of comments are not welcome. ...via AlertThingy - Vinuth M. Madinur
That's pretty cool. I stopped using Jaiku since twitter is so easy to access, why'd you continue? - Elliott Plack
It is all linked... i post to twitter and Jaiku, facebook, my blog, my gtalk away msg... everything gets updated. jaiku also reposts my google reader feeds. - Matthew J. Targarona
