You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Friendfeed's Francisco
This morning we changed the format of FriendFeed subscription email messages to include more information about people who subscribe to you. Please let us know if you see any problems, and keep an eye out for more email improvements in the future.
I'm all for improving the format of notifications, but wonder (aloud) if it is such a smart move to include the Approve/Reject link right at the top (unless it only appears in private feeds to which someone has requested access). Right now we have the option of blocking/ rejecting a subscriber at any time but presumably not at the very outset. This may lead to more of a walled gardens' mentality, already very prevalent at FF.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: approve/reject is only for private feeds. Public feeds just have a link to subscribe back :)
- Benjamin Golub
I noticed this one! Such informations about people who subscribe to me on FriendFeed are useful, and makes it easy to quickly get in the conversation. Thanks for the good job!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Gmail automatically showed me the images in a subscription email, even though I never told it to (you know how gmail has the 'display images below' option). further, it doesn't give me the option to hide the images. not that I'd want to, but how are you bypassing gmail's security feature to hide the images?
- chrisofspades
Chris, we don't do anything special. I'm not sure how gmail decides what images to show, you'd have to contact them or check the gmail help.
- Casey Muller
Casey, you sure FriendFeed's founders didn't use some of their "we created Gmail" mojo? ;)
- chrisofspades
Chris, the "show images" only applies to external images hosted on other sites. Gmail doesn't show those by default because doing so would allow people to "bug" email. We include the images with the email so that they can be displayed immediately.
- Paul Buchheit
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- pb:
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- pb:
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Iphigenie
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- SteVe C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- The original Kevin
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- The Real sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Just remember- this is not a competition, just an exhibition. @Kyle - ever been to Culver, IN? Grew up there before moving to Chicago.
- michael sean wright
Nice: I have been to Culver! You are in Chicago now? I will have to let you know next time I am up your way.
- Kyle Lacy
Not sure about that, but: "Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future and time future contained in time past. If all time is eternally present all time is unredeemable." - Swatch, Always Now, 1997 (and yes my lunch, at 1:42am local, is consisting of a double martini so that actually makes some sense to me)
- David HC Soul
are you saying that time "now" has no meaning? i (obv.) reject this but toast your willingness to acknowledge the wisdom of a dean martin martini. now, for you sir, on to the work of most importance. focus on the permanent.
- michael sean wright
Well, I will grant that the sentiment of French Marshall Lyautey has some merit (he asked his gardener to plant a tree and when the gardener objected that the tree was slow growing and would not reach maturity for 100 years the Marshall was said to have replied, 'In that case, there is no time to lose; plant it this afternoon!').... So I am off to plant some trees....
- David HC Soul
you, i like. and will point you to Hermann Hesse before he won the Nobel Prize for 'The Glass Bead Game' in which he wrote in in the idyllic poem "Hours in the Garden" (1936)- 'I hear music and see men of the past and future. I see wise men and poets and scholars and artists harmoniously building the hundred-gated cathedral of the Mind." - (forword to Glass Bead Game by by Hermann Hesse by Theodore Ziolkowski.)
- michael sean wright
Thanks for the pointer - I'll go search it out.
- David HC Soul
I hope so. The thought is consuming much of my waking hours these days.... But I have to be up in 5 hours... so will have to return to the 'nightcrew' tomorrow night. One thing about time is it does seem to age one....
- David HC Soul
sleep perchance to dream, a wise man said. Billy Shakespeare.
- michael sean wright
Then pause now to ask yourself the following question: "Am I dreaming or awake, right now?"
- David HC Soul
man, most of the ppl who liked this i haven't seen on FF in ages. maybe i'm doing it wrong.
- Joe The Sausage
for most of us we met here, stayed loyal here but the sun set long ago : ( what a rush of a time that was! now we find ourselves over at g+ telling stories of the good ol' days!
- michael sean wright
Meme-inless no more! always been an interesting world with you!
- michael sean wright
oh and... i do have some google+ invites left - email me nicefishfilms at g ma i l dot co m
- michael sean wright
I'm curious now - did google + make you come back to FF? Because that is v interesting.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
yes, we did the podcast when ff was acquired by the book of face.. watched them absorb the real-time elements and i check in from time to time usually through this post as it brings back very fond memories. google + reminds me of the early days of ff - haven't felt that way about any of the social nets that have come since the facedbooked swallow up. heaven knows we've been on them all and they seem so ancient now -- quora anyone? google got it right with +. think it marks the next era for them.
- michael sean wright
Google + right now does remind me of the FF glory days and I am curious to see what happens next.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
"According to the figures, the jury is in: men will choose a Rubenesque size 14 over a stick- figure size 8 when it comes to their ideal woman. Admittedly, the science could be seen as somewhat superficial. It is based on an online survey – not the most accurate means of obtaining information – of 60,000 men conducted by laddish men's magazine FHM. The mag found that when shown pictures of three bikini-clad models, four out of five men said they were more attracted to the size 12 and size 14 models than the model who was a slimmer size 8. The majority of votes went to the size 12 woman, with 41 per cent saying that she had the body shape of their "ideal girlfriend". Almost as many men voted for the Nigella Lawson-esque size 14 model."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Hating to be the party pooper here, but: how tall were their size 8,12, and 14 women? Someone who is 5'10" size 14 likely has a very different body shape than a 5'4" size 14.
- FFing Enigma
Smart men like curvy women. I am a smart man, therefore I like curvy women. QED.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
i am a smart woman i like curvey man ;)
- samantha
I'm lazy to convert inches to meters (that's my unit) but one thing's for sure: I really am not into what they call "hot" women. You know... the kind of pics that are often posted here on FF.
- directeur
Speaking only for myself, I don't care what your height is; 4' 11" or 6' 6", if you've got the curves, then you've got my attention. I have not the slightest interest in stick figures.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Well that explains a lot. *has second serving of dinner... alone*
- Penguin
From what I hear, UPS drivers love women in stripey socks. Especially under medical scrubs. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
If you're comparing three different women, you could choose specific women to prove almost any point. But I still think it's true that ultraskinny is naturally unattractive to others.
- Lo the Baker
here is a good article by nigella lawson on this http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment... it is such a pity that women spend their entire teens and most of their 20s struggling and getting upset over a few extra pounds (which is often not even "extra") and only somewhere at the end of their 20s find out that men actually like those curves that they've been...
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- grizabella
آقا به خاطر فیل تر و استفاده از فریگت قابل مشاهده نیستن. لایک را هم با اعتماد به رای این خلقالله دادیم :دی اگه بشه جایی آپلود کنید و لینک بدین خیلی خوب میشه...
- Mostaf@m
آقا مصطفی محبت کردین. بعد از اینکه فری گت رو بستین میشه به صورت عادی عکس هارو دید آدرس عکیها با آدرس خود فرندفید فرق داره و فیلتر نییست. بازم اگهنشد بفرمائین جایی دیگه میزارم
- Nimaa
اوا نیمایی این همه کامنت و فید چرا خورده زیر این فید ناموسی؟ :))) پاکش اصلن :دی
- I /-\li
علی این همه لایک و کامنت سیخی هست در چشم تو :D
- Nimaa
من که عکس ها رو ندیدم.اما لایک می زنم بقیه ببینن به قول نیما شاد بشن.
- elmira
المیرا برات ایمیل میکنم ببینی با فریگت دیده نمیشن
- Nimaa
دومیه خیلی گوگولیه!نهمیه هم خیلی بانمکه!آخریه هم که تهشه!=))))))))))منم مستندشو توی بی بی سی دیدم!حس انسان دوستیت منو کشته!بعدشم من 16 رو برمیدارم به خاطر اسمم و هاله ی نور و این حرفا و اینا!کلا خیلی گوگولین دیگه بازم تعریف کنم؟:D
- Fereshteh
یه چهار نفر دیگه بیان لایم بزنن بشه 200 تا لایک خیلی خوب میشه!8->
- Fereshteh
Roll call...this can be great if we all participate. Add yourself to this shared map. I created a placemark on the 2 major intersections near where I live.
- Mark Krynsky
Mo, I'm a newb to the shared maps stuff, but I turned on collaboration and allowed anyone to edit the map. There should be an edit button and then you can add a placemark.
- Mark Krynsky
Robert bought me a new house in the northern suburbs.
- Andrew Trinh
@Bec...nice. You are the first brave female on here.
- Mark Krynsky
Cool idea, Mark! I was thinking something like this would be fun the other day. Duly added myself - or at least the nearest big intersection. ;)
- Jandy
Mousing over the usernames shows your Google profile info...cool.
- Mark Krynsky
I marked a bus stop near my house. But not TOO near. :)
- Nine
If you haven't yet...go add FriendFeed to your Google Profile...it will then auto-discover and allow you to add a ton of other profiles you have.
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks for the profile tip - I hadn't updated it since I moved here!
- Jandy
Thanks guys. This is coming along nicely. It's great to have as a resource to see where everyone is from. Hopefully this can become a standard feature on FF one day.
- Mark Krynsky
Canterbury, Melbourne, Victoria added
- Duncan Riley
Current count: 13 US, 11 Europe, 3 Australia, 1 Middle East. Happy to see many others add themselves overnight. Hoping more will continue this.
- Mark Krynsky
I've read the instruction and still don't see the button thing to add myself. I'm feeling pretty stupid right now.
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@Jill, make sure you are logged into your Google account and then click on the edit button above the list of names already on the map. You will then see the pushpin in the upper left hand side of the map.
- Mark Krynsky
Added. Seems like there are a lot of us in the Bay Area...we must do a get together at some point.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
@Neal yea, we really need a FriendFeed meetup. I might be up there for Web 2.0 in March...or we can have one at SXSW if a large number of us are going. Let's plan and get the Upcoming page going.
- Mark Krynsky
@Mark Not gonna make SXSW, but am definitely down for working on an FF get together. March is long enough away to make sure plenty of people have time to plan ahead. I added you on Upcoming so we can start coordinating it. Anyone else interested/want to help set this up?
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Maybe we can talk Paul & Bret into letting us invade the FF offices for a meetup in conjunction with Web 2.0? That would be sooooo cool!
- Mark Krynsky
Pinned! sheesh this just cost me 1/2 hour of time as I scrolled thru all the folks :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Except for Bret, there are no FriendFeeders on the penninsula between San Jose and San Francisco. So much for Silicon Valley early adopters.
- Ryan Kuder
Cluelessness alert! I'm not seeing how to add my pushpin!
- Hutch Carpenter
For some reason whenever i use google maps in creation-mode, it defaults to some other maps I've used, not the one I'm trying to access - ah, figured it out. Had to de-activate some other collaborative maps
- anna sauce
Added. What a great way to see who's on FF in Austin, TX!
- Carter ♥ HTML5
Har! I remember when they were prepping us for it in the '70s. Gas pumps all had gallons and liters on them for a while. Then Reagan was elected...
- Spidra Webster
Great.....Nice way to call us out. Haha
- Shevonne
Do the other three all use the same system or each their own?
- Skyler Call
I think the U.S. and Liberia use the same system, but Burma has their own
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
So, America, we Brits have something of a confession to make. We might SAY we're all "kilometers" and "kilograms", but we all still think in pounds and miles. We teach our kids about both systems because their parents still use the old ways. Personally, I use whichever comes nearest to a whole number when I'm working. This means that I'm often building stuff that measures "6 foot 3 inches by seventeen-hundred millimetres"
- Slippy
I wonder why Alaska is marked in as a country !
- Peter Dawson
Have any spacefaring nations besides the U.S. ever lost entire spacecraft due to using the wrong system of measurements?
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
Victor, technically the British. Weren't they on the other end of that debacle? (And, for the record, it's why F# introduced a syntax specifically allowing for the specification of units of measure as a strong type against any numeric.)
- Akiva
Peter, it's part of the United States. Note too that Hawaii is in red.
- Akiva
Lately, the most important unit of measure for me is PIXELS.
- Micah
I still use a weird mixture of the two, even after so many years. Indoor temperatures are °F and outdoors °C. My gas consumption is mpg yet I measure distance in km. I weigh 200 lb but buy steak in kg. And if I'm cutting lumber I still work in ft and inches. My kids though are pretty much all metric. Maybe it takes a generation?
- Ken Morley
It definitely takes a generation, in my opinion. If we'd started in the '70s, I'd be doing that conversion thing but my youngest siblings (about 20 years younger than me) wouldn't know much else. Same way they don't know how to use a record player or dial style phone.
- Spidra Webster
The Imperial Empire: The US, Liberia, & Burma LMAO; time for change
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Hmm, I hadn't remembered about the 1999 orbiter mission http://articles.cnn.com/1999-09... and it's strange that they talk about 'English' units. England used the 'Imperial' system but metrication started in 1978 and with pre-packed foods being sold in metric amounts. Then in 2000 all loose...
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- WoH: Minding her Steves
Burma has their own indigenous unit system.
- Victor Ganata
Canadians use a mixed system too. Gasoline in liters, milk in liters, fish often (not always) in grams, human dimensions (height, weight) in feet and pounds, housing usually in square feet, distance in kilometers...
- Andrew C (✓)
"Plastic takes thousands of years to decompose — but 16-year-old science fair contestant Daniel Burd made it happen in just three months. The Waterloo, Ontario high school junior figured that something must make plastic degrade, even if it does take millennia, and that something was probably bacteria. The Record reports that Burd mixed landfill dirt with yeast and tap water, then added ground plastic and let it stew. The plastic indeed decomposed more quickly than it would in nature; after experimenting with different temperatures and configurations, Burd isolated the microbial munchers. One came from the bacterial genus Pseudomonas, and the other from the genus Sphingomonas. Burd says this should be easy on an industrial scale: all that’s needed is a fermenter, a growth medium and plastic, and the bacteria themselves provide most of the energy by producing heat as they eat. The only waste is water and a bit of carbon dioxide."
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
So why is carbon sequestration a good idea when it's all complicated and expensive, but bad when it involves burying plastic bags in landfills?
- Paul Buchheit
I think it's better to sequester carbon as dirt than as bags.
- Gabe
But if it's already in plastic bag form, why not leave it that way instead of turning it into CO2?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: that's exactly what I've been thinking. Particularly since the City of Seattle no longer allows residents to sequester food based carbon in landfills and instead requires us to burn it into compost.
- Hayes Haugen
Dirt is useful because you can grow stuff in it. Most waste products are not so useful.
- Gabe
Yes, but the choice isn't between dirt and plastic -- it's between plastic and CO2.
- Paul Buchheit
I have to agree with Paul on this one: atmospheric CO2 is much more of a pressing concern at the moment than landfill space. Though I do admire the kid's scientific spirit.
- Louis Simoneau
Concur with Louis and Paul. Here's an interesting Penn & Teller bit about landfills: http://www.youtube.com/watch... (from their Bullshit episode on Recycling myths).
- Stephen Mack
It doesn't say what the process actually produces. They mention the feed material (plastic) and the waste material (water, CO2), but not the real products. I assumed it produced globs of carbon. Am I wrong?
- Gabe
Has nobody considered this for an artificial ecosystem? Compost your scraps for fertile soil, and compost your bags for the CO2 for the plants growing in it. Sure you'll need an airlock on your greenhouse (and an oxy mask whenever you enter it) but you'll have the best damned tomatoes on your street.
- Chris Charabaruk
You don't want to leave it in plastic form as it screws up the ocean large! Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... I hope they can use this to make something that would eat the plastic in the ocean rather than the sea life dying from it.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Since it said that the waste products were CO2 and water, I assumed there were also non-waste products. The good thing about landfills is that they can later be mined for all the great things that were too cheap to recycle.
- Gabe
Yeah, I think landfills have an unjustly bad reputation. When properly managed, they are a great way to deal with garbage that our technology can't yet efficiently recycle. (we're saving for the future!)
- Paul Buchheit
that's great news. now i can really finish my threat to all my damn *invincible* plastic bags! (waves fist)
- ed fry
The two biggest problems with landfill are the leachate seeping into groundwater (or contaminating local soil) and methane (a greenhouse gas). Even if you can mitigate those problems, they're difficult to eliminate entirely, making the land almost useless once it's full.
- Gabe
Gabe, not to minimize the problems, but I live right next to Shoreline Ampitheather in Mountain View, which is built on landfill is proof that the landfill land is hardly useless.
- Stephen Mack
It's not just landfills, though. Take the large floating trash gyre of the Pacific, and its effects in the ecosystem. So the tiny little plastic balls in water are fake food, and animals eat them, and then die in various ways, lowering populations and making species even more fragile. Landfill may be a good way if it's contained and monitored more closely, or CO2, in various areas- such...
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- anna sauce
@anna at least he is coming up with a solution rather than just finding more things to complain about
- Chris Johnston
anna's right -- the problem is when the stuff ends up in the ocean. Landfills are a good way to keep the stuff out of the ocean.
- Gabe
Stop speculating and start experimenting!
- Dane Deasy
"Plenty of religious believers believe in God because they've had some personal experience of a 'miracle'; that is to say, they've been confronted with something that (in their own minds at least) could not have happened by any natural means, and so they take this 'mystery' as evidence for a transcendent explanation. That's what I call water-tight logic :) As we all know, it is impossible for anyone to win the lottery, for a football team to win the Supberbowl, or for people who may have been misdiagnosed to be cured of their non-existence disease... just as it is equally impossible that our judgments may be clouded by cognitive biases, by the power of expectation and by our uncanny ability to reinterpret data to fit in with our beliefs. So, when some bloke by the name of Sam told Tim Minchin that God had cured his mom's cataracts, Minchin had to admit (with an awesome song) this proved not only God's existence but his benevolent awesomeness :)"
- Eivind
It's Tim Minchin, The Ginger-singing mate, An Australian awesome comedian... Who is extremely talented. Thanks so much for posting this, Eivind :)
- mina_sydney
I've watched everything of his since I first watched "Storm" a couple of years back. I think that's still my favorite. Very relevant to the type of people I'm often exposed to at parties :)
- Eivind
I mostly like Tim Minchin, but I saw something of his recently that took things a bit far.
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
I was listening to a programme on the radio a few mornings back about Gilbert and Sullivan. They were discussing the cadence of their tunes and use of words, and remarked - and I agreed - that Tim Minchin is probably a very close modern equivalent. Wonderful style, great song.
- Mark H
This is great stuff to start my day with. :D
- Meryn Stol
http://www.indirmedenizle.org/monica-... - O bir Tanrıca : O Monica Bellucci ... Malena , Buram Buram Erotizm Kokan Tarihsel Bir Başyapıt Olan Filmin Konusu ; Ergenlik çağına her geçen gün daha çok yaklaşan psikolojisi bozuk bir çocuğun hikayesini dile getiriyor. Ergenlik çağına girmesine an kala güzel bir kadın onun bu duygularından...
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- Anarşalı
So I picked up a Galaxy Tab @ the local Best Buy surprisingly easily today. Um, now what? Being as this is my first Android device, any tips/recommendations would be greatly appreciated. =)
Nice. You can take a look at the apps I installed on it. I'd switch to another browser right away. The stock browser is slow for some reason. I'm using Dolphin HD. http://www.appbrain.com/user...
- Rodfather
Sweet, I'll have to go through your list, thanks! Still haven't had time to actually unbox & play with it yet.
- ronin
Uh, what is this "Roaming capability update" thing in the Wireless and network settings? Should I be activating it?
- ronin
Hm. I don't know. I don't have that on mine. I grabbed the AT&T version.
- Rodfather
ronin, how are you liking the Tab so far?
- imabonehead
@Rodfather Oh, ok. It actually made a phone call when I went into it and I listened to elevator music for awhile before canceling. =p I assume it called Verizon customer service for something.
- ronin
@imabonehead Eh, just turned it on like a half hour ago so haven't really done much with it. ;-p Plus now I gotta hit the sack so I'll play around w/it more tomorrow.
- ronin
Whoa that's weird. I assume it updates the preferred roaming list.
- Rodfather
Yeah I don't know what that was all about. I'll probably google up on it before I try it again.
- ronin
As a first impression though, the UI in the apps are definitely not as finely polished as on the iPad.
- ronin
Yeah, that's for sure. It'll take some time to get used to it and customize how you want it.
- Rodfather
You may be surprised along the way how flexible it is compared to the iPad. The iPad is still a whole lot easier to use.
- Rodfather
Hm, do you know if you can unlock yours to work on any GSM network? Since it's AT&T I assume they locked it by default.
- ronin
There were some thread talking about it in the xda forums. I'm not sure if it was pulled off yet. There is a hack to enable voice calling, but that involves flashing other ROMs.
- Rodfather
Hm, don't care so much about voice calling, just curious if you can take the AT&T one overseas.
- ronin
I assume 3rd party sites will offer the service like with phones. Not sure if AT&T or T-Mobile are ready or willing to give unlock codes away.
- Rodfather
Is there a quicker way to get back to the top of a webpage in Dolphin browser besides the gesture thing?
- ronin
from Android
No which sucks. I'd be nice if you could tap the top bar like in Safari and Tweetdeck.
- Rodfather
The gesture doesn't seem so bad using my thumbs in landscape. The button gets in the way sometimes.
- Rodfather
Still can't get over how bad the default browser is. Scrolling with it is downright horrid.
- ronin
And are there any app that makes use of the front cam besides I assume fring?
- ronin
I haven't tried fring yet. Tango works. The camera, by changing the shooting mode. I don't think Qik supports it. Maybe the the one made for the Evo will work.
- Rodfather
Does the Tab not fast charge when plugged in to a computer? When I have it plugged in to my USB hub or directly to a computer the battery icon has an "x" next to the lightning image. For awhile I thought that meant it wasn't charging at all but it is.
- ronin
It doesn't charge at all on my laptop. The iPad doesn't either. Probably need 1 amp. It works with the Tekkeon battery pack.
- Rodfather
I don't know. Maybe it was trickle charging on the laptop but I was using too much power. When plugged into the ac adapter, there's an animation on the battery icon though.
- Rodfather
Oh really? My iPad charges fine through my powered USB hub or MBP. Surprising that the Tab would need more juice than the iPad.
- ronin
The Samsung charger is 2A. It does charge relatively fast. It probably charges at 500mA for anything else.
- Rodfather
What do you think of the default launcher? I only wish widgets were resizable on it.
- ronin
from Android
Oh and does the AT&T version allow 3G Hotspot functionality?
- ronin
from Android
Officially from AT&T, no. There's no option for it. Technically yes. On my phones, I have this installed and it works great. http://code.google.com/p... I haven't attempted to get it working on the Galaxy Tab since I haven't hacked it to allow sideloading yet.
- Rodfather
Not surprising I guess since it's AT&T. With Verizon it's supported.
- ronin
from Android
Any reason I would want/need to root this thing?
- ronin
from Android
For screenshot apps, although you can take a screenshot by holding back and then the power button. For installing Titanium Backup to backup your apps with settings. To run Terminal/gScript to mount a Windows share on the sdcard, to get Rockplayer to play video files directly. Evenually, to run ROM Manager to backup the ROM. WiFi tethering.
- Rodfather
I guess there's no point in replacing my Verizon model w/an AT&T one?
- ronin
It depends. I grabbed the AT&T version since you don't need to sign a contract and I have the iPad 3G grandfathered unlimited $30/mo plan. I took out the SIM card included with the Galaxy Tab and replaced it with iPad SIM card. Works fine. The downside with the stock AT&T Galaxy Tab is it doesn't allow sideloading without a hack. Also, the AT&T version has 16GB internal storage + an...
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- Rodfather
Did yours come with 16GB internal storage? Or is that the included microSD card? Mine has 16GB internal storage, but with an empty external microSD slot to add up to 32GB more.
- Rodfather
The Verizon version doesn't have a camera flash?
- Rodfather
That article got the part about flash only being on the T-Mobile and AT&T model wrong. There's a flash on the Verizon one too. According to the Task Manager I have 1.23GB of internal space for Program, 81.26MB for Personal data, and then 14.73GB on external SD card.
- ronin
I guess there is a difference with storage. Mine is the same for app storage. There's 2GB for user apps. Then 16GB internal for storage (like for photos, etc), and then I put in another 32GB microSD in the external slot.
- Rodfather
So if I switched to the AT&T model I'd basically be paying $100 more for larger amount of maximum space. And I'd have to root it to be able to do 3G Hotspot and sideload (both which the Verizon already does out of the box I believe).
- ronin
I kinda like the 2GB/$25/month AT&T plan more than the 1GB/$20/month Verizon plan but Verizon signal is definitely better here.
- ronin
Yep. Well, $50 difference if it's unsubsidized. I don't think Verizon charges extra for tethering, but Sprint does.
- Rodfather
$100 diff. I got mine @ Best Buy w/their Black Friday deal where they had it for $50 off. And yeah, Verizon doesn't charge for tethering.
- ronin
Another thing to consider is AT&T is a bit more flexible. It's treated like a pre-paid plan. You can cancel and start a plan whenever you want, just like the iPad plans. With Verizon, I think you need to pay a $35 reconnect fee if you cancel and want to start a plan again. http://www.zdnet.com/blog...
- Rodfather
It seems Verizon is probably better suited for you. The main reason I went with AT&T is because I already had the iPad SIM card.
- Rodfather
Oh as for the launcher, I went with LauncherPro right away. I'm just used to it on my Evo. If you purchase it, you can have resizable widgets, but it doesn't make much difference unless it's like a Twitter feed or something. The widgets you get from the paid version isn't all that bad.
- Rodfather
Hmm... how do I copy files from internal to SD card?
- ronin
from Android
I think for you the internal storage is the microSD card. On mine the internal storage is /sdcard and the external slot is /sdcard/external_sd. I'm using ES Explorer for a file manager.
- Rodfather
If you mean moving apps to the microSD, go to settings->applications->manage applications and click move to sd on the app. Or download MoveToSD. You shouldnt need to though.
- Rodfather
Mm, no according to Settings->SD card and device storage, I have 14.64GB of available space on the external SD card and 1.03GB available space on internal device storage. I just created two video clips that I want to make sure is saved on SD but when I launch the My files app I think it only shows me the internal space. I guess I should download ES Explorer or MoveToSD or both?
- ronin
The 1.03GB is for apps. You can't even view that. It's somewhere in the microSD. Just get ES Explorer.
- Rodfather
If you used the camera, it's probably in the DCIM folder.
- Rodfather
Yeah I found the vid files already, just wasn't sure if they were saved on the SD already.
- ronin
'k, looks like My files was showing me the SD content already. So I don't need to move the vids anywhere. Cool.
- ronin
Is it currently possible to root the Tab so that all carrier-provided restrictions are removed?
- ronin
Well, it seems these days people are flashing the European ROMs. I'm staying away from that until there's an easy way to backup and restore the ROM (preferably through ClockWork Mod). It's easy enough just to root it though. Download z4root from the Market and press the button. You can unroot just as easily. From there, it depends what you want to do.
- Rodfather
Hm... I guess in order for the European ROMs to work I'd have to first start off w/a GSM-based model (AT&T or T-Mobile)?
- ronin
Sorta. I think people have been extracting the modem bits from CDMA versions and the rest from the European ROM. It all seems too sketchy to me. I don't want to end up with the bricked tablet.
- Rodfather
Yeah that's sounding much too advanced for me at this point. I want everything all neatly packaged up for me. =)
- ronin
Yeah, I don't think Verizon released a factory stock firmware yet. There's one for T-Mobile and AT&T floating around. Still, using a custom flashing tool on the PC (Odin) is too sketchy. I'd rather be able to do it all from the phone/tablet and have a reliable way of restoring to another ROM just in case.
- Rodfather
One thing I still find puzzling is why the CDMA models don't come with the 16GB internal memory that the GSM models have. Bah.
- ronin
Yeah, that's weird. Maybe the radio takes more space?
- Rodfather
"With pro-atheism ads rolling around on buses worldwide for the past two years, how could the nonbelievers still get a rise out of the righteous? Comparing Jesus and Allah to Bigfoot and Zeus is one way to go. Canada's atheistic Centre for Inquiry plans to start a new Toronto bus campaign in January with the headline, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," followed by this list: "Allah, Bigfoot, UFOs, Homeopathy, Zeus, Psychics, Christ." Campaign coordinator Justin Trottier says the ads aren't about "knee-jerk debunking" and adds: "We're interested in a genuine debate, a conversation about so-called extraordinary claims. We're not here to mock people who believe in these claims." Riiiight. Who could possibly feel mocked when their messiah is put on par with psychics and Sasquatch?"
- Jessie
from Bookmarklet
It seems that with ads like these, atheistic organizations are becoming more and more like the evangelists they hate, and I don't see how that's helpful for anyone.
- Jessie
This month I got some literature from the Jehovah's Witnesses warning me that atheists, or the "new" atheists as they're calling them, were now dangerous since they're proselytizing. I'd just like to have my opinion in peace, and they can have theirs. (I did chuckle at the lit though. Pot-kettle-black.)
- Jennifer Dittrich
LOL@ Jehovah's Witnesses complaining about proselytizing. That's awesome.
- Jessie
Yeah, the irony killed me. I think I saved the pamphlet somewhere. I hope I did. Apparently "The Athiests are on the MARCH!"
- Jennifer Dittrich
Liked for the "Jehovah's Witnesses complaining about proselytizing" anecdote.
- Chieze Okoye
At least they could have used a logical statement for the ad. Claims require evidence. Certain claims do not require extraordinary evidence- just real evidence. Laying out a moving standard for particular claims is illogical. Sigh.
- Jenthemum
Is this really proselytizing though? It's a sign on a public bus. They aren't coming to your home or standing on street corner handing out pamphlets. There's no lecture here, or unwanted phone call or stuff in the mail either.
- Soup in a TARDIS
It's proselytizing in the sense that they're actively looking for adherents - they're asking people to question their beliefs, rather than simply waiting for people to come to them. I don't object to their right to put the ad on a public bus, I just wish there were a less obnoxious way for them to get the message out than "Jesus=Bigfoot!"
- Jessie
Nobody should ever ask anyone to question their beliefs!
- Eivind
Eh, honestly I feel like this is the same as the passive advertisement many religions engage in. If you're searching for something, it might pique your interest. If you are secure in your religion/belief/whatever, than it wouldn't rumble your faith.
- Soup in a TARDIS
As far as feeling mocked, I think that might have more to do with the individual's biases against the other items listed. I do find it interesting that many of the complaints about it being dismissive fail to notice Allah and Zeus are both listed and both deities.
- Soup in a TARDIS
There is a good comment on the article somewhat related to that last point where the commenter brings up "cognitive dissonance."
- Chieze Okoye
I wonder if this has created an outrage in homeopathy circles as well...? Plenty of people who believe in that. I guess poor Zeus is the least believed in item on that list :/
- Eivind
I'm very much against proselytizing in any form and I don't see this as proselytizing.
- Akiva
that's what America is all about folks .Freedom of speech
- just ZONED
Eivind, he's also listed last in the Divinities Phone Directory.
- Akiva
@Jessie: Okay then. What is a valid and non-offensive way to tell religious people that their beliefs are nonsensical? And to that point, what *actually* differentiates those who believe in the divinity of Jesus from those who believe in the existence of Bigfoot? Especially since there's more evidence for the existence of Bigfoot?
- Otto
@Otto, is it necessary to tell religious people that you think their beliefs are nonsensical? Many people who identify as religious are aware of the logical discrepancies but find other benefits in faith. From a marketing perspective, I don't understand why they took an approach that would alienate potential supporters. They could have gone with an ad that emphasized atheists don't need...
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- Jessie
Isn't religion or no religion just about what you believe to be true? I find how you talk about selling benefits you get if you stop believing in god(s) to be odd. Do you think one should pretend to believe in the deity/religious variant with the best deal?
- Eivind
@Jessie, I don't think the ad makers were interested in validating atheism, or selling it in any way. I think their point was "There is no proof, so why bother believing?" If you need proof, this ad would be compelling. But for believers in ANY of these other items and/or people they know that proof isn't necessary for their belief, so the ad would (should?) have a null-rate impact. I...
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- Soup in a TARDIS
I think Jessie's point is valid: nobody likes to be made fun of. Whether you're calling me godless because I don't share your faith, or delusional because I have any, it is still fairly insulting.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I'm still not sure anyone is making fun of anyone though, Jennifer. I think the call for extraordinary evidence isn't mean spirited in the least. In fact most people would say there already is extraordinary evidence for most of the items on those lists (except, perhaps, for Bigfoot). Miracles, sudden healing, and communication with the dead is all pretty extraordinary, and many feel there's plenty of that to go around.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Thanks Jennifer! Yeah, I guess it depends on what their goals are. If I were establishing a nascent social presence for a given community, I would have gone with validating the community first before criticizing those outside the community who might otherwise support mine. But maybe that approach didn't fulfill their aims.
- Jessie
I would think if someone was a Christian (or religious) it would be front of their mind that their belief system is based entirely on faith. Withdraw the Bible from the discussion (which is no more evidence than me and a few friends writing a good story about the guy at the pie shop being a god) and essentially Christianity is a declaration that you believe God exists without a piece of...
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- Johnny
I don't see how it's insulting. There is no value or judgment put on any of the things listed. And listing them together isn't the same as saying they are equivalent. I see a lot more harshness coming from the religious in how they select Bible passages to put on billboards. (One of which I see on the way to the mall and another coming back.) Plus, atheist organizations have done "Good...
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- <3Heather<3
To be fair, I stated that waving either position in someone's face can be insulting - I'm all for people believing, or not believing, whatever they want. I see equating god to bigfoot, or telling me I'm going to hell because I don't believe in god to both be pretty obnoxious - in the same way that I'd find it profoundly rude to have a stranger walk up and critique my haircut, or see ads proclaiming that blonds are ugly. They might be free to do so, but I feel free to call that impolite.
- Jennifer Dittrich
What if the list had been "Allah. String Theory. Evolution. Christ." They all fit the big claims, but the middle ones have evidence. Would people still get the point and not be upset?
- <3Heather<3
How do you quantify the evidence Heza? How much evidence is necessary?
- topernic
That has nothing to do with the point. The point is that Allah and Christ fit the category of extraordinary claims, but fail on evidence. Which is why I think Bigfoot and UFOs are an appropriate association.
- <3Heather<3
Something you can demonstrate to me in person that I can then go away and replicate myself
- Johnny
Basically a bunch of people get together and say we have discovered a way to interpret our experience. One major element of this interpretation process is to be objective as possible so as to not introduce bias into the result. How can the observer not be a part of the observed? We'll ignore that for now because we can replicate the results really well if we stick with matter.
- topernic
So what you're saying is that something like a demonstration of Newton's law is just an observation of a shared experience?
- Johnny
Yes, so would you also agree then that the evidence proving something as ethereal as the existence of a being that created the whole of existence but there is no way to tangibly confirm that inside of our shared experience would require a higher level of observation than the standard testing methods... say... extraordinary?
- Johnny
@Jessie: Well, religious people seem to LOVE to knock on my door early in the morning to tell me about Jesus, so why not? I just don't get why it's okay for religious folks to annoy us with their beliefs all the time, but somehow turnabout is not fair play, eh? Okay, so maybe you don't get friggin' Jehovah witnesses or Baptists bothering you a lot, but for me it happens twice a month....
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- Otto
For the record, not all religious people are the same. When was the last time some Hindus knocked on your door to sell you on Shiva? When was the last time Jews showed up to get you to put on tefillin? Buddhists bothering you about bodhisattvas? Please, stop trying to paint all religions as if they were all like Christianity.
- Akiva
What Akiva said. Take it up with the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Baptists - I've had them at my door too and I don't like it any more than you do. There are plenty of religious people, Christians included, who object to such an aggressive approach. So why not make an ad that criticizes proselytizing instead of criticizing others' beliefs?
- Jessie
@Jessie: Because those people's beliefs is the source of the problem. Your beliefs are the source of the problem. The very notion of "belief" itself is the source of the problem. You think that belief and faith is a good thing. We don't. And maybe you don't agree with their tactics, but you do agree with what they're selling, no? Religion itself is the problem, it's not just its followers.
- Otto
It's exactly that point, Otto, at which an aggressive atheist and an aggressive religious person start to sound the same to someone who just wants to live their life in peace.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Jennifer: Well, yes. What can I say? Life is conflict. Pick a side. ;)
- Otto
I'm an atheist, and I don't support the tone of the ad, but I agree with the idea of provoking a fair and tolerant discussion about the nature of belief, claims and evidence. So let me start with this one. Is it fair to say that belief in Zeus is somewhat similar to belief in Bigfoot?
- Stephen Mack
Jennifer- a bus ad is the same level of aggression as knocking on your door to judge you and make claims about the one true way of life?
- <3Heather<3
I think Jennifer's already made the point that ads that mock other people's beliefs and door-to-door proselytizing are both disrespectful and not the best way to open a fair and tolerant debate.
- Jessie
I don't think a passive bus ad and door-to-door harassment are on the same level at all. And I don't see how the ad is mocking.
- <3Heather<3
Ok, so from my point of view this ad is a win-win. If you are religious and believe in Zeus, Allah or Jesus (same if you believe in big foot) all this ad does is make you question your beliefs by putting your leader on the same level as someone you personally would not equate them to. This is a good thing. By questioning your beliefs you have the ability to personally ratify them which...
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- Ross Miller
Hey ya'll! I am excited because I am officially down 50lbs today! And I have an awful can't-wait-till-I-get-home-to-share-so-ran-to-the-bathroom pic to prove it!
It is so nice to be able to wear stylish clothes again. Fringe benefit is that I can finally wear some of my designer friend's awesome clothes (wearing in the pic) that I covet every time I work on her website (http://joyli.net).
- Lindsay
Well, hello there lady! Good work! :)
- JA Castillo
Having attended a memorial service over the weekend, consoled my wife as she attended one yesterday, and heading to a family hour tonight, I would be inclined to agree. Hell, my 77 yr. old mother would agree.
- MoTO Bott
I do not view the DMCA as a Constitutional law. In my opinion, it's yet another corporate end run around Copyright, Trademark and Patent limitations that were meant to be in the Constitution. It turned fair use from a right in to a weak defense and is a huge subsidy for media corporations. Instead of having to focus on creating quality new media,
it instead gave them far too much power to protect existing revenue streams. It's patently anti-consumer and should be repealed or seriously curtailed.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And yes, I know that nothing about this has anything to do with the real problems of the world or the US, but there it is. One more brick in the wall to death by corporation.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I know a few librarians who would say that this is a very real and important problem since it affects access to information.
- Katy S
I've always felt that it was against the constitution and the wishes of the founding father. Section 8 of the constitution uses the key phrase "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries" and I really feel that both the DMCA and the endless chain of copyright...
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- Wirehead
I've been writing pieces for years about Section 8 vs. the way Big Media thinks of copyright. The good news is that it hasn't gotten worse in most post-DMCA years. The bad news is that it's so unbalanced already that it would be hard to get much worse (other than to do away with first-sale and fair use rights altogether: First sale is REALLY important here).
- Walt Crawford
First sale is (a) why libraries can lend books, etc. (b) why you can sell a book (CD, DVD, etc.) to a used whatever store and they can sell it to someone else, (c) etc., etc., all without paying additional per-use fees to the copyright holders. With DRM, digital media can wipe out first sale rights entirely.
- Walt Crawford
Ahh, yes! Completely agree with you there that it's important.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble