"...a phenomenon in quantum game theory resulting in anomalously high success rates in coordination games between separated players. These high success rates would seem to require communication between the players; however, the game is set up such that during the game, this is physically impossible."
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
I'm personally of the opinion that empathy (something most of us who are not autistic to some degree have experienced) is similar to telepathy and that we may someday discover physical evidence for a continuum of empathic -> telepathic function. I realize this will sound totally bonkers to a lot of people, which is one reason I think fMRI studies are so cool.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason: Kin selection. Theory of Mind. Mirror neurons. No spookiness required.
- Christopher A Carr
What's really interesting is that entanglement can work across great distances. I think some experiences might cause a greater degree of mirror neuron entanglement than usual.
- Jason Wehmhoener
The empathy thing doesn't sound weird at all. Especially to the observant. I think most have experienced empath's on some level. e.g. with your kids when they are young.
- Eric Logan
Jason: Mirror neuron functioning has nothing to do with quantum entanglement.
- Christopher A Carr
@Jason: i like the empathy <-> telepathy angle, very interesting
- Anthony Citrano
"I realize this will sound totally bonkers to a lot of people..." *raises hand* ;-)
- Christopher A Carr
Yep. Doesn't have anything to do with mirror neurons.
- Christopher A Carr
How do you know? Or more specifically, what is the physical mechanism for mirror neuron function?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Roger Penrose does think that quantum phenomena are involved in the mind, though as far as I know his ideas have not been widely adopted. See _The Emperor's New Mind_ and _Shadows of the Mind_.
- Ruchira S. Datta
I love to read Penrose's writing. I find myself nodding along with even the most controversial bits. I'll have to dig into the Max Tegmark papers, et al.
- Jason Wehmhoener
You'll find few neurophysiologists, and even few fewer physicists, who think the Penrose/Hameroff hypothesis something other than total nonsense. Physical mechanism for mirror neuron function? Seeing. Why would anyone think that quantum entanglement is necessary?
- Christopher A Carr
So, how do you explain the magic square game that started the thread?
- Jason Wehmhoener
This is quantum game theory. "Alice and Bob" are not actually people who share an entangled quantum state. How the heck would that happen in the first place?
- Christopher A Carr
good question! ok, so, completely bonkers, maybe that's the conclusion for today. ;-)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Don't fret Penrose is good company, Jason
- Eric Logan
I don't really see it as a reason for a sad face. "Crazy" is sometimes just a step on the way towards a good (or occasionally even a great) idea. Thanks Eric. ;-)
- Jason Wehmhoener
"Starting in 2010, an international crew of six will simulate a 520-day round-trip to Mars, including a 30-day stay on the martian surface. In reality, they will live and work in a sealed facility in Moscow, Russia, to investigate the psychological and medical aspects of a long-duration space mission. ESA is looking for European volunteers to take part."
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Actually, I don't like this, but I agree with it. At least, it seems to hold for my life, as of late.
- Craig Brownell
I wholly concur, Craig. It's an unquantifiable, unverifiable, subjective observation that can nevertheless evoke an emotional resonance similar to a common reaction upon first learning of the very real and measurable phenomenon known as entropy. Heh-heh ... perhaps we could coin this one the theory of Existential Entropy. We don't like it, but sure as hell see far too much of it. Hang in there! ;-)
- michael silverton
There is a critical JavaScript vulnerability in the Firefox 3.5 Web browser, Mozilla has warned. The zero-day flaw lies in Firefox 3.5's Just-in-time (JIT) JavaScript compiler. Proof-of-concept code to exploit the vulnerability has been posted online by a security research group, Mozilla said in a post on its security blog on Wednesday. Security company Secunia rated the vulnerability as "highly critical" on Wednesday. The hole could allow a hacker to launch a "drive-by" attack, according to Mozilla. That means an attacker may be able to execute malicious code on a target machine, if the victim visits a Web site containing an exploit.
- Leo Laporte
"The new source HLX-1, the light blue object to the top left of the galactic bulge, is the ambassador for a new class of black holes, more than 500 times the mass of the Sun. It lies on the periphery of the edge-on spiral galaxy ESO 243-49, about 290 million light years from Earth."
- Michael McKean
from Bookmarklet
A lot of my FB friends are still not aware that wall posts are for everyone and carry on rather lengthy (and personal) conversations in the "open"
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Another one I'm only sharing with you guys (on FF) "Did you see X? She was so ugly in highschool and look at her now."
- Mona Nomura
Wow, I'm looking through my feed, some of thse are so mean and catty. "Omg X has x# of kids. No wonder she's so unhappy." ... I mean seriously, people? I'm starting to delete some of my high school friends LOL
- Mona Nomura
It reminds us of what I consider the overriding flaw of social networks like FB. They assume that all friendships (what a bastardisation of the word 'friend' as well) are equal. They are not. I never use FB to communicate with my real friends. That's what the telephone and a night at the pub are for.
- David Eedle
Off topic but related... Private accounts on Twitter still appear in Twitter Search. So they are not private at all.
- Mike Reynolds
Mike - you are so right. I don't understand private Twitter accounts anyway. Why do people feel the need to privatize their megaphoning? LOL
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Not only that, but if they delete it, it remains in your feed, and any application has access to that information if you add the application :-)
- Jesse Stay
Mike, don't go saying that too loudly. I blogged about it a while ago and got torn a new hole. :(
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
LOL! MONA! This is so true! My mom was on Facebook and saw a whole conversation between one of her girlfriends and someone else. Her girlfriend (who shall remain nameless) publicly announced that she was on anti-depressants because of the stress she was getting from going on the Somersizing diet. She though that she was sending private messages to her friend. *facepalm*
- Michael Forian
Mona, my twitter feed is public, but I understand why some people opt for a private feed. They just want to have an option to vent or share private info / feelings with a group of friends they trust. Kinda like a private e-mail list, I guess.
- Adam Lasnik
I'm lucky that practically all of the people I know from high school (and earlier) act sensibly on Facebook. I don't think the same could be said of the people I knew in college, though.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Adam, sure, but in that case, why not use a private email list? Why limit oneself to 140 characters?
- Brome
Because there's less a feeling (from the sender) of imposition. If you invite your friends to follow you on twitter, they may feel some social obligation to do so, but you'll never know if they actually *read* what you write. So you can feel free to rant about even the most trivial things or ask the most silly questions, justifying to yourself, "Well, it's not cluttering anyone's...
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- Adam Lasnik
Sounds like cheap entertainment, don't stop the candid lifestreams.
- Will Higgins™
"It wasn't long ago that some physicists said that optical invisibility cloaks would be impossible to build. This week, two teams are claiming to have built cloaks that work over a wide range of optical wavelengths and the extraordinary thing is that both designs are almost identical (see pics)"
- Jeffrey Marsh
from Bookmarklet
"It was only a matter of time. Naked Pizza, a uniquely healthy pizza joint in New Orleans, has replaced its “call for delivery” billboard in favor of something a bit more unorthodox: its Twitter handle. The restaurant now features a large Twitter bird above its storefront, inviting passersby to follow ‘NAKEDpizza‘ for special deals. Aside from being among the first brick and mortar businesses to so prominently feature its Twitter handle, Naked Pizza is notable for a few other reasons. Its menu was created to offer the “world’s healthiest pizza”, with each slice only weighing in at a fraction of the calories and fat of standard pizza, while still tasting delicious, according to Yelp reviewers . Oh, and Mark Cuban just partnered with the company to turn it into a national franchise."
- Neal Jansons
from Bookmarklet
The Poseidon Resort, which is nestled in a 500 acre Fijian lagoon, is the world's first one-atmosphere sea floor resort. It's cantilevered over the sea floor in 40 feet of water. The resort has twenty-four 550 square foot luxury suites. The Poseidon features a 100 seat bar and restaurant (350 m2) and another 350 m2 unit with an undersea library, a Presidential Suite, two spa treatment rooms and a wedding chapel/conference room combination.
- Cee Bee
The world’s first undersea residence has 3600 square feet of uncompromising elegance situated in 40 feet of crystal clear water surrounded by a magnificent coral reef, where the ever changing view is fascinating and absolutely unique. Your H2OME is in Belize, in a protected private lagoon connected to land by your private pier. Floating above and accessed by elevator is a cluster of...
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- Cee Bee
"How's this for crazy?: A company files a patent to destroy hurricanes as they form by beaming them with energy from a space-based solar plant. Maybe it is crazy, but that same company, Solaren, took a first step in that direction this week when it inked a deal with the northern California utility, PG&E, to provide 200 megawatts of power capacity transmitted from orbit in 2016. Apparently, sending up billions of dollars worth of solar collectors and using microwaves to send the energy onto two square miles of receivers in the desert is a little ho-hum to Solaren's wild minds. "The present invention relates to space-based power systems and, more particularly, to altering weather elements, such as hurricanes or forming hurricanes, using energy generated by a space-based power system," Jim Rogers and Gary Spirnak write in their 2006 patent application."
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
By heating up the upper and middle levels of an infant hurricane, they say they could disrupt the flows of air that power the enormous storms. Air warmed by tropical waters flows up through a hurricane and is vented through the eye into the upper atmosphere. Theoretically, you could heat up the top of the storm and lower the pressure differential between layers, resulting in a weaker...
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- Cee Bee
I was reading up on this and the real crazy part is that their plan (at least to me & my limited background on the subject) actually seems plausible...coupled with the idea of a space-based solar power plant and the next 10 years is going to be a fascinating...
- Jeffrey Marsh
But do we want to kill hurricanes? Isn't this going to be like the stopping of forest fires in the 50 and 60's leading to extinction of plants that require fire to open their seed pods, and accumulation of tinder dry leaf litter that created the monster fires we've seen over the last decade? A wiccan friend of mine once told me "Never call forth anything you cannot put back down"
- Matthew DeVries
supposedly some governments already have the ability to alte cloud patterns in their quest to provide them with better military options
- Cee Bee
for as much damage wreaked by a hurricane, to do this to them would have massive environmental consequences. I hope they fail in their aims. Nature does its own tweaking of the weather, let it do the work.
- alphaxion
Hadn't heard that, but not surprised either. Pretty sure I read the Chinese government 'altered' the weather to help ensure the opening ceremonies wouldn't be rained out...
- Jeffrey Marsh
alphaxion - I agree, not sure what kind of unintended consequences this would have...hurricanes are an important atmospheric valve and without them i'm not sure how the built energy would be released...almost like pushing economic bubbles from sector to sector with allowing for a real correction...
- Jeffrey Marsh
here's one interesting article about the us military's foray into this new form of "warfare" - http://www.theecologist.org/pages... - i've also read about russians doing something similar
- Cee Bee
cee bee: wow...that is pretty insane
- Jeffrey Marsh
@jeffrey Aye, it's just you don't screw with your home in this manner. These processes are fundamental to life, remove them and you'll destroy it. People scream about genetic modification killing us off, this holds far greater chances of doing the same. But then, maybe this will solve the problem of too many humans? Anyone looked at their agenda/financial backing for doomsday cultists? ;)
- alphaxion
I'm curious to know what the difference is between this and the space-based scalar weapons Reagan tried to put in place?
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
yeah. I think of the two-edged sword. Though hurricanes are dangerous, there may be something that they provide in our environment. Hindering them may cause something else.
- Valley
Probably more of a hammer. I think the weather-manipulation potential is a strain to find a way to justify putting directed energy devices in orbit. Control is certainly on their minds, but it seems it would be a lot more directly applicable to things other than weather. Unless, of course, they've been fooling around with it without telling us. No, they wouldn't do that.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
@llYa remember that crazy JamesBond flic where they had a satellite with diamonds feeding a lens, you could of course use it to be a weapon or disrupt dangerous weather patterns (nice excuse). You could also just toast people or eradicate anything on the surface. If it were a real approach to generate energy you could just use the constant stream of EM energy coming from the sun, or tap the photon belt like Tesla did, or do something more green like earth batteries, even the egyptians had 'em. But waever :)
- Roland
You can see all of Edison's patents here. "Edison executed the first of his 1,093 successful U.S. patent applications on 13 October 1868, at the age of 21. He filed an estimated 500–600 unsuccessful or abandoned applications as well. Unfortunately, the names given Edison's patents are too irregular to make simple word searches an accurate means of finding patents for particular technologies. His issued patents are presented here in three lists—by execution date, patent date, and subject. The execution and patent date lists are each presented in six parts to make the files less cumbersome."
- Bill Romanos
from Bookmarklet
"America's colleges and universities, says Wiley, have been acting as if what they offer — access to educational materials, a venue for socializing, the awarding of a credential — can't be obtained anywhere else. By and large, campus-based universities haven't been innovative, he says, because they've been a monopoly."
- Meryn Stol
from Bookmarklet
"But Google, Facebook, free online access to university lectures, after-hours institutions such as the University of Phoenix, and virtual institutions such as Western Governors University have changed that. Many of today's students, he says, aren't satisfied with the old model that expects them to go to a lecture hall at a prescribed time and sit still while a professor talks for an hour."
- Meryn Stol
"Higher education doesn't reflect the life that students are living, he says. In that life, information is available on demand, files are shared, and the world is mobile and connected. Today's colleges, on the other hand, are typically "tethered, isolated, generic, and closed," he says."
- Meryn Stol
Universities aren't just job training, they are for shaping persons. That's hard to do hiding behind a terminal.
- Todd Hoff
Todd, shaping people *like what*? Ethics can be learned on the job perfectly. Indeed, people need to be socialized, but that doesn't mean people need to be "college students" for some part of their life.
- Meryn Stol
The wildcard in the equation is Tenure. Universities will be hard-pressed to adapt with legions of Union / Tenured professors who have a vested interest in maintaining the status-quo. The Boards and Regents are typically closed to change, and will fight for every dollar. In the end the customer (students/parents) will be penalized, with ever higher tuition for a degree that is worth less as time goes by. Competition may be the best thing to happen to Higher Education in many years.
- Robert Kenney
Shaping as exposure to the recapitulation of all of human history and experience. Certainly you don't need to be a college student, but the university as vocational tech is a very limited view of person hood.
- Todd Hoff
Todd, I'm not sure about what you're saying here. "he recapitulation of all of human history and experience. " - such as? "The university as vocational tech" - What does that mean?
- Meryn Stol
Robert, I think that smart companies will start to hire directly from high schools, and offer facilities for personal development. Maybe like Google's 20% time. Of course, companies have to adapt to the lower skillset of high school graduates, but I think this can be done profitably. This is how *I* would run my tech company in any case.
- Meryn Stol
Vocational tech means job training. Recapitulation means exposure to things you would never normally be exposed to because it's not immediately necessary for your job. This includes most everything that has ever occurred. It would be nice for example when people discuss politics that they have some idea of the history of the republican form of government through history and not just what is said over talk radio.
- Todd Hoff
Todd, regarding government, what should they know then, according to you?
- Meryn Stol
It's a very long list Meryn. That's what I mean by recapitulation though. It's telling the human story to every human so they can start from a firm place and head out some where new instead of repeating the past. And that's what I mean about person hood.
- Todd Hoff
" It's telling the human story to every human so they can start from a firm place and head out some where new instead of repeating the past. " I kind of like this phrasing. Couldn't we do this better earlier, like in, pre, mid and high school? The earlier a child knows "the human story" the better I think.
- Meryn Stol
In my lyceum it starts from the beginning of life and is an integrated curriculum that evolves, reveals and builds over time.
- Todd Hoff
Todd, you think it's better to have this story spread out across many lectures? How many weeks? Why not give a summary up front?
- Meryn Stol
Do you think this is the sort of thing that can be learned from lectures or summaries?
- Todd Hoff
Todd, I actually was assuming that you thought it did, because you said it in relation to schooling. You had something more "interactive" in mind?
- Meryn Stol
Also, you brought up the term "the human story" (which I really like). With story, I immediately think about storytelling. You might be more for the "visceral experience"?
- Meryn Stol
Wouldn't a broad number of techniques be needed? Simulation seems important in that allows practical application of knowledge which better fixes learning. So if you want to understand history in 1776 why not re-live it?
- Todd Hoff
Hmm... There's something to say for that. Gaming industry could help with that. They have quite realistic historical environments already, for their WW2 shooters and such.
- Meryn Stol
The school I attend (a state university, btw) has a complete eCampus program that offers over a dozen baccalaureate degrees, several dozen minors, several dozen certificate programs (both grad and undergrad) and a handful of post-baccalaureate degrees. They charge an inexpensive, flat per-unit tuition regardless of state/country of residence, and have made huge strides in finding...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Professors are now trying to select textbooks that are available via Kindle or other e-reader. A class I took in the fall had a downloadable interactive program that delivered my lectures and then allowed me to interface with the diagrams and models. One of my professors this term is working with some students in the IT department to develop an iPhone application for delivering even more interactive content. I love it, if you can't already tell. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Could very well be, but there are many great suggestions here, the problem will be in implementing them across the board. Colleges that do this will win, there will always be a need for mentored education, that goes back to Greece, possibly further back. Schools might be more interesting that way.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I'm doing a masters at the U of Phoenix - not only is it cheaper than the U of Arizona, it meets state requirements for licensing and U of A doesn't - textbooks are all online, paper are submitted online, classes are evenings, and teachers are working in their field - traditional campus can't compare anymore
- William Harryman
Meryn, game and simulations are great. How about a large scale reenactment along the same lines as ontology recapitulates phylogeny? How about physically setting up towns and houses etc and let people reenact? Like those BBC reenactments? Creating a series of these over 18 years could be quite powerful.
- Todd Hoff
"In an operating room at the hospital, the technology can keep a pair of human lungs slowly breathing inside a glass dome attached to a ventilator, pump, and filters. The lungs are maintained at normal body temperature of 37 °C and perfused with a bloodless solution that contains nutrients, proteins, and oxygen. The organs are kept alive in the machine, developed with Vitrolife, for up to 12 hours while surgeons assess function and repair them."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
(1) The placebo effect (2) The horizon problem (3) Ultra-energetic cosmic rays (4) Belfast homeopathy results (5) Dark matter.....
- Jeffrey Marsh
from Bookmarklet
You need tech people that know technologies intimetely, not just superficial understanding.
- Jose Fajardo
Does it make me a "so called" to say that statement sounds "elitist" and not at all in the culture of sharing?
- Floyd Davenport
TechCrunch is a PR outlet for VCs and big companies. There are a handful of people who write for things they call blogs that I trust, but there aren't many. Just do what Mike did when he started TechCrunch, write about products as a user would. Forget all the fancy shit about how one company kills another. For me it was the Hype Cycle piece that nailed it. Somehow the tech is completely gone now.
- Dave Winer
Dave - that's what FriendFeed is silly.
- Chrimmus Tad
I'd like to throw my hat into the ring. I know nothing, I have no qualifications, but I can fabricate BS and pretend to outscoop people with a sense of arrogance easily.
- Mike Nayyar
Even a year ago, TC was still worth reading. Then it simply went pop. What most of the times is missing in the blogs is innovation. It somehow went out of fashion =(
- Kirill Bolgarov
I think it's time for some bloggers that don't only write about the big or the supercool new stuff, but about small startups that launched and give them some honest directions on design, programming and business model. Time for some critizing.
- Max Schulze
A good chance for the longtail of tech bloggers. For example if i finally start writing in english about IT startups in Russia. Would that be interesting?
- Kirill Bolgarov
Here's the thing: The reporting on (almost) all of the tech blogs blow. I love TC, I have a love-hate relationship with Mashable, but the market is starving for a tech blog that is thorough in its investigations and not beholden to the Club atmosphere out west.
- Brandon Mendelson
Perhaps gdgt.com is what everyones waiting for
- Marcus Beagley
Are we talking general tech or specialists? The problem with specialists, they know their stuff but don't draw a big enough audience.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Definitely good time for a move in a direction more progressively focused than on pumping one's followers and the latest Twitter API skin.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Wouldn't you be afraid that Om will just buy up the blog?
- Uncle CW™
Marshall Kirkpatrick (http://beta.friendfeed.com/marshal...) at ReadWriteWeb is really good about unearthing unsung tools and trying them out in public. His willingness to build his own mashups and jump into things like Yahoo Pipes and various Greasemonkey scripts is endearing. He reminds me of Gina Trapani (formerly of LifeHacker http://beta.friendfeed.com/ginatra...) but with a different perspective.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I actually think TC (Did I say that?), RWW, Mashable, Inquistr, CNET and others have all gotten better in recent months ....
- Charlie Anzman
It does sound elitist and if you don't like them, don't read them. Good Lord.
- George Gray
maybe the top tech bloggers should write a blog post about how they are going to quit blogging in one year.
- Thomas Hawk
I would love to become the fresh blood one day but just can't find the time to really commit to writing lately
- Joe Dawson
Scoble's always been saying blogging's dead, though punctuated with a just kidding. However he says it so often it make me wonder if he is serious at least in part
- sofarsoShawn
As people have mentioned, getting started in the game is the big problem if you want to be the new guy's
- Jamie Vidamour
Agree with Jamie, I think location also plays a big factor. Not being in Seattle, Silicon Valley ( or close ) etc can also hurt your chances a bit
- Kashif Khan
include the opinions of Scientists, Engineers, Designers not just enthusiastic tech end users
- shayne catrett
Without naming names, seems to me that a lot of the current crop of top-tier tech blogs have become vehicles for self-promotion. First it's a blog, then it's a conference, then it's a line of branded bathroom products. I'd take a tech blog a lot more seriously if they committed to reporting and nothing else. Once they cross the line into becoming a "media property," they usually start to have problems IMHO.
- Kevin Pedraja
If it is possible for the activities of a human brain to be emulated by some other computing device, then it is possible for a human mind to be copied to a computer - "uploaded", in current sci-fi parlance. The computer can then run the human-mind program indefinitely. If it runs the human-program much faster than a normal brain can do, then from the point of view of the emulated brain, thousands of years could go by per real-world minute.
Because of real-time commenting, each post on FriendFeed is a potential chat room. A "throwaway" chat room in fact. You only use it for one discussion, then leave it forever. But unless you delete it, it's archived for eternity.
Johnny I know, I glanced over the log. I experienced it for the first time yesterday in a chat with Robert and a few others. I'm really impressed by it. I do think a thread could use a marker if it's intended to use for realtime or for slower commenting. But the versatility underneath is truly wonderful.
- Meryn Stol
Unless I'm wrong, last night's Ffundercats thread is a FriendFeed record. But a collection of 1600 comments seems unwieldy under the current UI.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Also, I think that in retrospect, "chat rooms" where never a good model. It is a metaphor taken directly from the real world. A "conversation" or "meeting" is a more natural basis. In this regard, FriendFeed has a real edge over other group chat systems (like IRC and Skype).
- Meryn Stol
I think the UI should be more adaptive to different use cases. A thread that's marked as a "chat" might get some slightly different presentation than a thread that's marked for regular (longer, slower) comments. I think both conversational styles have their merits.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn, FF now gives the ability to do both. A wide open chat on your mainstream is rather like IRC. A chat posted to a room is in theory a smaller, cozier environment. Even smaller still: DM a small group of people and chat in that message: it's almost like group IM. One platform lets you do all of them.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yes Tina. That's what I'm so impressed about. The versatility. But at the same time, this might confuse people. For example, I'm now using this thread for "slow" commenting (, relatively speaking, because this is still much faster than blog commenting). Other people might want to start "chatting" in this thread. This would result in an odd mix of content. This problem can be solved by pure "etiquette", but some UI support could be handy.
- Meryn Stol
A good temporal solution would be to clearly state expectations about the type of commenting up front in the post. Maybe explicitly announce a "chat". Default would be the longer comment form.
- Meryn Stol
Gray: Are you spamming the link to itunes all over FF? Please stop.
- coldbrew
Coldbrew, I think the link by Louis is appropriate here. In general, I consider cross-linking helpful. Helps put everything into context for people who do not read everything on FF. Also, I hope you let me be the one to moderate comments on my posts. You don't have to play "FriendFeed police".
- Meryn Stol
Perhaps, but for whatever reason, every post on my screen at that time had the link to itunes. I was annoyed, and simply chose the last post in my view on which it appeared. I don't consider myself some sort of "police", I was simply making a request.
- coldbrew
Coldbrew: One tip for you: Don't post when you feel annoyed. I regret the things I posted when I felt annoyed. Everything you say brands you. Better keep it positive.
- Meryn Stol
Not really concerned about 'brand' and people will pigeon-hole as they see fit. I know what to expect as I do this IRL as well. To the casual observer it comes across as rude, but I have little interest in casual conversation making.
- coldbrew
"I have little interest in casual conversation making" - what is your interest then?
- Meryn Stol
Non-casual, non-commercially driven, and non-gossip. Ideas and concepts, rather than people.
- coldbrew
Tx for this Meryn. I am more impressed with FF. I enjoy the way a discussion is kept together like this. Will be using this much more in future.
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
"We are living in a period of punctuated equilibrium". 13:34 - We've had information overload ever since there were more books than one person could consume...what we have now is a failure of the existing failure model to keep up.
Josh: friendfeed to Twitter? nope. But Twitter to Facebook? Yes.
- Robert Scoble
i find the facebook crowd to be more sedate - i have many more family interactions there though which is cool...
- mike "glemak" dunn
I find it annoying when people auto-post everything everywhere. IMO, each service has it's own purpose, audience, and expectations. Very rarely does a single message fit everywhere.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel: that might be true, but when I pushed my friendfeed likes over to Twitter I gained 15,000 followers. So someone must like them. And, now that I'm pushing stuff over to facebook I'm getting both engagement (good) and complaints (bad). I will figure it all out and report back.
- Robert Scoble
When there's not enough context, sometimes it gets annoying. Example: FriendFeed only autoposts to Twitter every hour or so (big avalanche after sharing 6 or 7 items in google Reader), and sometimes the comments are disconnected from the initial conversation. And mirror posts are weird (although you can fine tune them).
- Jorge Martins Rosa
Ok, since I follow you on both places, which would you rather have me pull back from, FriendFeed or Facebook? That way I only have one scoble feed.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
dedealusjmmr: weird. My friendfeed posts everything instantly over to Twitter (I don't post Google Reader items, though).
- Robert Scoble
It just seems like it could backfire, when people refuse to follow you on individual services because it's too hard to pick out content specific to that service. ... What we need is an app/plugin/goggles that hides anything you have seen before, regardless of where you saw it.
- Daniel Sims
Dan: I'm pretty sure most of my original stuff will be on friendfeed, since the UI here is far far far far ahead of the other social networks.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - Done, if it gets too much I'll drop you from Facebook, I am glad you chose FF, this is where I spend my Social Networking dollars lately. Cheers/r/d
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dan: I turned off the importer over on Facebook. Too many complaints.
- Robert Scoble
That happens to most of my messages that I post on Friendfeed. Except they do get nearly as much attention as yours do.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Robert: I think many non-tech-savvy people aren't ready for an update explosion yet. However al of my "normal" friends are getting more and more interested. I discuss a lot of things about beer, having fun and politics over on Facebook
- Michiel Sikkes
okay, but is there any way to get my facebook status updates back to FF?
- Bob Blunk
Also, non-tech people are obviously getting the hang of twitter. FF is about 1 year away from hitting mainstream.
- Bob Blunk
I think that with the advent of the new beta, it might be less than one year. Assuming they keep streamlining FF.
- Chris Parton
The only use for doing that sort of thing would be to add content to a fan page. My friends on Facebook would block my newsfeed if all my FriendFeed or Twitter comments were piped in.
- Rolf Schewe
Two sides of the real coin: when will we have truly easy-to-use (for normal humans) filtering aggregators / readers; and: what social networks do we each choose to use, understanding everyone else is free to make the same choice. Which audiences do you want to respect&engage?
- Shane Curcuru
I bet the response was far higher on FriendFeed
- Nicholas James
FriendFeed is more useful now posts on Twitter appear instantly here. And the Beta FriendFeed takes good parts of Twitter and combines with FriendFeed. I like it.
- Jalada
Bob: yes, Facebook is one of the services you can import from into friendfeed. It works great, except you've gotta worry about duplicate messages. That's why I don't import from Facebook here. I might change that now that I've turned off the Twitter to Facebook link.
- Robert Scoble
I used to have my Twitter tweets piped into Facebook back in February and early march, during the Aussie bushfires...but it was a real pain, afterward, clearing out most of the tweets. Even had one of my Facebook regulars ask about something in the twitter stuff, because she could only see one-half of the discussion. Now, with Tweetdeck, I can pipe over a specific update once-off and make sure it doesn't drown everything else out over in FB. It does get a bit hectic in FF when I have stuff duplicated.
- George Hall (Australia)