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What We Saw Never before-released video of the WTC attacks - http://www.google.com/url...
except it was released three years ago. i've seen and it is compelling videom ust a few people's instant reactions Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
@templestark So I should cover PodcampAZ and put up a Twestival one :-) Or should I just cover up my pic up and have both represented
Condundrum. I say both, with, for you, PodcampAZ dominant. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
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A Different Take on The Kelly Clarkson Retouching Controversy - http://www.scottkelby.com/blog...
I didn't know there was one - first I'd heard of it. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
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Digital Blackout: a poem about social media burnout: http://www.globatron.org/choken-...
Seriously i have to ask - why do you keep on posting this poem, which I have yet to go to b/c if you're burned out, great but it doesn't seem like it. Trying for a self-fulfilling prophecy? Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
If Jason Calacanis is against Apple, who can be for it? - http://www.crunchgear.com/2009...
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um 100s of millions of people? What kind of question's that. ?It's one fucking person i don't care about. Never heard of him until yesterday and billions of people who never will. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
If I waited for someone like JC to like things before jumping on, or followed their every whim, I'd have dropped nearly all my twitter followers and wouldn't even be posting on FriendFeed by now. Meh.
- Brad McCrorey
This is why I stopped reading "tech" sites and listening to "tech" podcasts. It's all navel gazing and caring about a small group of peoples' opinions that don't matter at all in the larger community.
- Rob Haas
Agree completely with Marco Arment concerning JC's commentary. A few good points buried in rants: http://www.marco.org/159321665
- Craig Michael Patrick
Sigh. It's not a question of "for" or "against". Apple is just a company, it's not a religion, not a crusade, not some intellectual movement. I buy its products because I like them. Jason doesn't like them, because he doesn't like the lock in. That's cool, I'm fine with it. I'll carry on buying them till it becomes an issue for me.
- Ian Betteridge
I don't buy their products because I'm against them. So there.
- jcunwired
Ian, a couple of points. No one suggested it was religion, crusade, or intellectual movement. It's a debate with two opposing viewpoints. The Internet is a great venue for just that sort of communication. Jason DOES like Apple because, according to the article, he dropped about 20K on Apple-related stuff. Jason obviously feels passionate enough about their devices to WANT to spend the time to craft a rant. Hopefully, all parties (including Apple) walk away a little wiser as a result. We can hope, anyway.
- Craig Michael Patrick
Craig, the headline is "If Jason Calacanis is against Apple...". That makes it sound like "you're either for them or against them". As you rightly point out, Jason likes Apple. The idea that simply because you are critical of someone's business practices you're somehow "against" them is too common when talking about Apple, and it's not productive or helpful. Using words like "against" virtually guarantees that people won't walk away from it wiser - just more entrenched in their positions.
- Ian Betteridge
Ian, point taken. Well said.
- Craig Michael Patrick
Do we really need Favoriting AND Retweeting on Twitter? Combine the two like this: - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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I agree that retweeting and "favoriting" per se are redundant, and think your workaround is kinda cool, but I think a lot of people (like me) use the favorite function more as a flag for later kind of thing. Maybe favoriting should just be repurposed? Twitter could finally embrace the retweet on their web site and rename "Favorite" to a simple "Starred" (whatever one then wants that to mean).
- Grey Drane
Agree with Grey Drane. Calling it "favourite" has loaded it with too many subjective values
- sjjh
The use of Yahoo Pipes isn't necessary since you can add prefix on Twitterfeed. In fact, Pipes only gives you delay.
- LouCypher
@Lou, unfortunately Twitterfeed inserts a space between the prefix and the actual title...so @mentions dont work
- Zee.
@Zee, you're right
- LouCypher
I use the twitter "Favorites" function as a quasi bookmarking tool (very handy). I see re-tweeting more as a "re-publishing" function. Maybe it's just a naming issue?
- Martin
I use favouriting when I'm on my iPod touch or school computer and I want to save a link to visit later. Retweeting is for sharing a tweet with others
- Bryce Roney
from iPod
I guess for me, I can't see why you would want to save a link but not retweet it...but hey, each to their own
- Zee.
I used to do it for sites that were hard to read on the iPhone, but now SimplyTweet and its landscape-aware browser (and Instapaper support) eliminate that need. Now I just do it for multimedia content that doesn't work on the iPhone (like Flash content) or for the odd really interesting tweet that I'll need time to ponder.
- Grey Drane
from IM
U can always retweet 2 different sets of audiences on Twitter or favorite 4 your own use 4 future reference.
- polou/indigo_bow
Great idea, giving it a go!
- MLx
Nah, favorites are for me, I can retweet them later or share them using Google Reader. Retweet is more immediate, especially when you are retweeting emergencies or time sensitive information.
- Gabriel
http://favstar.fm/ can show you favourites from all your friends - it seems pretty neat.
- Richard Cunningham
The only time I *ever* favorite anything on Twitter is when I see a link to something interesting, while accessing Twitter on my iPhone, that I want to read later when I'm on my netbook/laptop/desktop. I don't use it to indicate a feeling about the tweet one way or another.
- Joey Gibson
I also use Retweets and Favorites as completely different tools. RTs are for tweets I find worthy of reposting to my followers, while I use Favorites as a poor man's bookmark-for-later system, specially while using Twitter on my iPhone. When I have time, and am back on my desktop, I go through my Favorites -deselecting them after I check them out. If I find one of them is worth retweeting, I'll do so too.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
I with the favorite mark as a save for later crowd, like when there is a link that looks interesting but I don't have the time to look at it now. I use retweet to send out a message I see to everyone
- Kim Landwehr
I use "Favorites" as a way to bookmark items I want to come back to later.
- Steve Sill
I'm with Steve, Favorites are my way of bookmarking and just keeping track of tweets that I never want to forget or see gone from Twitter search at some point in the near future.
- Corvida
I agree with commenters that say RTs are for everyone but favorites are just for me. I don't use it just for URL bookmarking, though. I use the Save to Instapaper feature of my mobile twitter client (Gravity) to read URLs later.
- dthree
some reasons might include consideration for others, noise pollution or the simple fact that it merely amuses you or likely applies to only your own interests. They're completely different animals. Retweets AREN'T just links, Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
I have to admit I don't favor many Tweets unless it's something that interest me. I would like to see a retweet function on the site since it's in evert Twitter client except Twitter itself
- Outsanity
"OBAMA is such a class act. Love that he invites Professor Gates & Police Officer to White House. Use it to show that both over-reacted." ~ meryl steinberg [I think he's modeling virtue and compassion to the nation and world.]
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What do you think? Is he a good role model for listening, compassion and reaching out in difficult situations such as this?
- Myrna
Hm, I am sorry Myrna but I am not an expert (I did not observe him carefully enough - just few speeches and shows...) But from what I could observe he has a great talent. Perhaps he's slightly too perfect and slightly too cold - on the other side though it is good to be sober in the crisis situations, don't you think so...?
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Yes, I think what you call 'sober' I call boundaries, knowing when to speak, how to speak and to whom as well. He is not perfect as a human but he's perfect now in his role of president. He knows how to gather the best minds to work together for the common good. He knows how to reach out and build bridges. Isn't that what we're all wanting to do in our lives?
- Myrna
Frankly after the swagger of Bush anyone in the shoes of a president would seem restrained;)
- Deepti
Deepti, Obama is much more than 'anyone after Bush'
- Myrna
i just saw thru Boston Herald that Gates has accepted, communication is the first step to resolving all misundersatandings.
- chaz2b
Obama has the unique ability as president to bridge some of these discussions and experiences.
- Myrna
of course Myrna America couldn't have suffered more bad karma after 8 years of Bush- Obama came as the much needed respite. He is quite popular in India. I was just kidding:)
- Deepti
Can you believe if Gates and the officer meet in the White House for beer and discussion
- Myrna
Deepti, when you mention swagger, last night an English director/humorist was asked if its more difficult to poke fun at Obama and he said he has a cute walk getting off air force one, sauntering from side to side down the steps.
- Myrna
Myrna, never really noticed, been too busy thinking he cuts a fine figure. Loved his ninja technique when he killed the fly.
- Deepti
LOL that's a real haha to you
- Myrna
it's not class it's saving his ass. people let it pass, but it's just photo-op crass Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Temple, were you trying to communicate something worth noting or simply advertising your links?
- Myrna
Now if only single payer health care was on the table........
- Joe
Deepti, I would not say that Bush had swagger..... I would say he had stupidity though.
- Joe
J, let me meet you midway - how about swaggering stupidity?;)
- Deepti
Deepti Would someone that stupid know what swagger is? You must remember we were dealing with an idiot.
- Joe
Joe, you're not going to leave the last word 'idiot' are you :)))
- Myrna
no. :)
- Joe
Myrna, one of the Iranian Journalist requested for an interview with Obama. but Obama rejected her. i want to know why they have discrimination between journalists?
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Mahdi, I can assure you its not 'discrimination' in the usual sense. Obama has to be careful on Iran issues. Just as an aside I'm watching huge rally for Iran in NYC right now. Can you get me more info on that Iranian journalist and was that for a private interview with Obama?
- Myrna
She is Masih Alinejad one of the strong journalist that she could find many documents about salary of Iranian parliament members and reveal that they are liar. Now she is in United state and she is insist to have an interview with Obama. i hope she can access to white house. her weblog is here : http://masihalinejad.com/
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
i don't know about the detail of interview. if i find more detail i will tell you
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Is she based in U.S now? She should try to write something for Huffington Post. Clicking her blog now. Thx
- Myrna
Well, that's not good for me Mahdi. You will need to translate, is it parsi?
- Myrna
she is not based in U.S she living in England. she had some interview with famous journal in U.S during last week. i will suggest her Huffington Post too.
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
the last post in her blog is about her interview. she complain and she would like to meet Obama for interview. her writing is so fluent and effective in Persian.
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Does she write in English? Wonder if they have a translator.
- Myrna
she just write in Persian but i will suggest her to run a English weblog too.
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
you can ask her in face book Masih Alinejad
- mahyar
mahyar, why didn't you request her friendship on fb? I did now. http://www.facebook.com/s...
- Myrna
CBS censors "Big Brother' slurs, shields bigoted contestants - http://www.365gay.com/news...
Good morning Natalie. This story referenced below got me wondering a question. You're likely just presenting the info, but it seems odd that 365Gay seems a little upset that racial slurs were NOT aired. An ironic twist, it seems. If the shows really in in any way reflected reality, I'd be upset, too. But we all know they're packaged more than a Christmas morning; I expect nothing but...
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- Temple Stark
from email
Yes, just presenting an interesting story. Personally, I am of two minds about it: One, I agree with you. Two, again like you, it would be interesting to see how the nation dealt with seeing these housebound jerks truthfully. Early on, I used to watch sometimes on the 24/7 feed (tho not 24/7, natch). Saw one incident where a contestant who almost won the whole ball of wax made an...
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- Natalie Davis
Lou Piniella is awesome... excellent fundamental baseball coaching in the top of the 9th #cubs
Louuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. I have favorable Mariners memories, as well. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Can you guy give me some feedback on on my website http://emailforhelp.wordpress.com and you can follow me on http://friendfeed.com/emailfo... and join my group on friendfeed too http://friendfeed.com/e-mail-...
You're just taking other people's posts from across the Internet and reposting the content here. That's plagiarism and it's also pointless. Who would come to your site to read these articles when they can just go to the original site?
- Eric Geller
It doesn't look to bad, but a different theme would do. And Eric, what do you think the point of TechCrunch is? Or Google, or any search engine? Or Yahoo news, or a local news cast that replays CBC? How about a news feed such as an RSS imported to a website. Or Twitter? RT's? That would be called plagiarism apparently, to you that is. Try a little harder when thinking of a comment, or make your own website full of useless information and comments, ok?
- Zachary TG
Zachary: TechCrunch adds content to the excerpts it provides. And this guy isn't TRYING to be Google or "any search engine," he's trying to be a blog. News organizations that replay footage do so because they can't provide their own content. Twitter and RTs are not plagiarism because there's fair use involved in that. But the stuff he's copying and pasting is copyrighted work. I tried very hard when thinking of a comment, and judging by your use of self-defeating points, I'd say you didn't.
- Eric Geller
Richard: You do not understand the point of blogging. If you can't produce your own content or add value to something pre-existing, then don't blog at all. You shouldn't start by stealing other people's stuff and saying, "Maybe I'll write something unique if others help me."
- Eric Geller
do you know eric geller you do not liike me or my blog then keep you month shut and not post on my stuff thank's for you point but no want to help write my blog so yes i do have to use some other conent
- Richard Thomson
and you what i am at less try and your the one be rude
- Richard Thomson
Why do you have to use other content? How many readers do you even have? That's not your content to use. You don't have the right.
- Eric Geller
Eric, good job on pointing out the challenges with taking other people's ideas. You'll find, though, that this is common. The key to avoiding plagiarism charges would be to provide attributions and include personal opinions. Common blog entries link to several sources and combine them into a perspective for others to consider. Scrappers - on the other hand - deserve to be sued.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
hey i give them the creit i link to the site and page and you guy sound you like you be good write if you want to write your own post i would be happy to let other people write for my blog
- Richard Thomson
and i know no one in the tech company's so what am i going to do then??
- Richard Thomson
You're just so oblivious it's pathetic.
- Eric Geller
from iPod
The obvious - write about what you know, join a group blog to build contacts, learn- and THEN strike out on your own. Remember, you ASKED for feedback - don't expect it all to be positive, especially if there's not much to be positive about - yet! Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
your right and thank for all your feedback
- Richard Thomson
Show a Folder's Full Path in Finder's Title Bar - Mac OS X - http://lifehacker.com/5102717...
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If I were running on a Mac, I would never want to see anything related to that SOB OS we call Windows.
- Stephen
Or since you don't need to see path that often (and they can be long and ugly across the title bar) just click on folder icon in title bar while holding Command down and the path pops up in a drop-down menu and you can go to any higher-level folder. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
@templestark Bingo has less salt than Lay's chips!! There!! Frito Lay here is called Lay's
lol - i meant if you write lays less too often isn't not really the porn erotica writing that you aspire and perspire to. Cut off before the get off, so to speak. :-) Temple Stark (not a grammar Nazi lol) Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Temp, thankfully lays less has nothing I perspire or aspire about:)
- Deepti
NOVA | Musical Minds | Watch the Program | PBS - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh...
A couple of people were just talking about his yesterday when music came up - told me to watch it. And dAnI the queen comes up with the link!!! Woo-hoo Celebrate the best of America is how I phrase today. Salute what the flg means to you. Have fun ;-) Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
I've been wanting to ask this for a while, and considering Mike Arrington is a web celeb now - i'll just ask publicly. Why do SOME of you dislike/hate Michael Arrington? It's not a rhetorical question btw - i'm genuinely asking because i've thought hard...and can't think of anything that that he's specifically done.
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have some of you had personal bad experiences with him? Is it just that you think he's arrogant. I've personally got no issue with the guy aside from the fact that he's technically competition for TheNextWeb and I think he & his site make techmeme way too often! :)
- Zee.
My personal interactions with Mike have all been good. (E-mail, phone, F2F) His positions no doubt occasionally disagree with mine.
- Louis Gray
Well, I for one do not hate or dislike him. In fact, I think he's brilliant, but he also tends to think out loud (or think while posting, I guess) and therefore comes across as abrasive. He is frequently wrong too, but has real trouble thinking that there may exist other viewpoints besides his own, especially in the midst of a discussion. At times like that he just goes on and on, and eventually just makes a bore of himself.
- Jim Is Not Smart
@Louis and that's what i seem to hear from most industry professionals who have encountered him...So i'm stil left confused. Is it mainly because at times Techcrunch has broken embargoes and so the majority of haters are PR folk and entrepreneurs? Or is it mainly other competing bloggers? I mean where the heck does some of the hatred come from...
- Zee.
He didn't really pop up on my radar till that thing with Leo Laporte (which apparently was the result of a big misunderstanding?) I was subbed to the TechCrunch account here on ff and thought that a lot of the stuff that popped up was pretty interesting. If anything I "hate" that he's gone...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I think he's a savvy guy and he's opinionated. I don't know the guy personally but it seems like he takes things *way* too personal, but perhaps that's what drives him to be great. Lately it seems like he just doesn't want to listen anymore and that's a dangerous place to be for any profession IMO.
- AJ Kohn
@AJ I would normally tend to agree but then again - when someone spits in his face and he receives death threats...surely that's personal no?
- Zee.
My initial personal interaction with MA was when I was at Mashable - given that, it's not surprising that it was particularly negative. He seems to have softened on me as an individual since I've left there.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
1st of all, I don't *actively* dislike him = I don't seek out opportunities to tear him down or flame him. I even empathized with him when he wrote about being publicly spit on and considering restraining orders in the past. Then the Last.fm episode happened. After the dust settled, it was clear that MA had spun whatever actually happened in the most accusatory manner possible. I...
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- LANjackal
He is the Perez Hilton of tech. He made an ass load of money only by hurting people. He loses his freakin mind if ever the camera looks back at him and calls him on his fuckery. He horribly over-reacts to perceived "danger" and threats and "violence" (he was spit on, that is not violence).
- Matthew DeVries
@Mark - can you reveal any details publicly about the interactions with him at Mashable?
- Zee.
Zee - I can say that I do appreciate your objective review of this subject. Good on you.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
@Zee.: Few people deserve that type of abuse and surely Mike doesn't. But ... he shouldn't be surprised by getting negative reactions. One should have a real understanding that the masses are full of loons. (I've received hate mail at my home from editorials I had in newspapers.) So, the more you instigate, the more you should expect to incite the loons. It's not fun, it's not fair, but...
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- AJ Kohn
I've know Mike for some years now, and I think he is one of the smartest and nicest people I've ever met. The way he looks at businesses and technology is remarkable, and it has been nothing but an honor and pleasure working with him. Imagine getting pitched 30 times a day by entrepreneurs for one story, spat on the face, and more. That's why Mike has to deal with, and no one gives him any credit.
- Daniel Brusilovsky
Well said, AJ. It doesn't make it right, but it's reality.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I consider what he pulled on Leo Laporte a personal attack so mark me down in the MA=hate category. He might not have known Leo for a long period of time, however the people that have followed Leo for a long time as I have, know his credibility and integrity are above reproach.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
@Matthew DeVries but death threats is another story altogether...And personally, I would take being spat on very seriously (probably because I'm half iraqi...but still)
- Zee.
@Zee I'm probably not supposed to, and it might come back to bite me, but I will anyway. I had posted a blog entry up at Mashable that had some youtube video of a leaked product demo or something - we had gotten a tip on it in our Mashable inbox, and I ran with it before doing my due diligence. Turns out someone downloaded the TC video before the blog post went up and uploaded it to...
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- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Zee: Just to make it clear, I don't support death threats or spitting on people. That's wrong. But from my observation of MA, he brings a lot of that on himself by his own actions. He makes a conscious decision to be an ass, and people are ... people, not computers. Your laptop won't get mad at you, but people will.
- LANjackal
from IM
I don't think folks hate him - though many really don't like him. From my viewpoint, he seems opinionated - and somewhat intransigent. Of course, that is true for most insightful people (even in the tech community). In many ways, he reminds me of Dave Winer, Adam Curry and even Robert Scoble. Each of these people have important things to say. Sometimes, the way they say it can alienate people. As for me, I like Mike's self confidence. But it's a fine line to walk.
- Lorin Olsen
@Mark - thanks for sharing, very interesting - and yeah he probably did overreact but i guess you can see why he was pissed off eh
- Zee.
Zee, with respect, what you're doing by starting this very thread is giving people yet another platform to people who would like to say why they dislike MA without knowing him. Apart from Mark (ex-Mashable), who is telling the story from one side obviously, I don't think you'll find a lot of people who are going to tell you why they dislike because of something he said or did to them...
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- Robin Wauters
@Zee I can see why he was pissed, but he could have handled it better. That's just from my side, though. The feuding between Mashable / TC was a little nutbar-ish, in my opinion. I know that the only reason I soured on TC at all was as a reaction to the hate from the other side of the table. I have no idea where the emnity started (probably goes back as far as the Jewish-Arab conflicts), and has as much basis in logic as that conflict does as well.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Robin I know what you're saying...but to be honest, I hope for the opposite. There have been a number of occasions when I've posted something written by Arrington and people automatically launch into attacks on him & his character. I raised this (after some debate in my head about whether I should I might add) because I wanted to provide a platform for people to calmly and rationally...
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- Zee.
Rather than something specific, wasn't the original criticism that Techcrunch was making & breaking web-startups back in "the day?" Which may or may not have lead to the amount of trolls commenting on Techcrunch, which may or may not have lead to the death threat, which may or may not have lead to the backlash at his comment on Laporte's Pre? Who really has time to keep track of it all, he's public so some people will hate him.
- Vincent van Wylick
@Vincent i agree with the "he's public so some people will hate him" but there's no doubt in my mind from the time I've spent online - that he is targeted more so
- Zee.
@Robin: "nothing but a blog" I'm sorry, but I'm someone who has nothing but a blog. Mike was named one of the 100 most influential people by TIME in 2008. I don't dislike Mike for what he does, he's a smart guy and a savvy businessman. But I do dislike his *reaction* to events that unfold and the idea that he's nonplussed that he could be targeted in such a way. Here's my analogy. I'm...
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- AJ Kohn
the wikipedia criticism section of techcrunch is very, very sparse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Vincent van Wylick
Having not read a single response above all I can say is watch this video where he accuses Leo Laporte of giving biased reviews because he had a loaner unit which had to be returned and all will be revealed http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Paul OFlaherty
@Paul - yep, but he has apologized outright for that. I've done worse.
- Zee.
@LANJackal http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Zee.
@Zee An apology is all well and good after the fact, It still doesn't change the fact that he was an asshole and if past behavior is anything to judge by he will be again.. Just listen to Laportes reaction, he's pissed not just because of that one event, but because of how Arrington has been for as long as he's known him..
- Paul OFlaherty
I don't hate Mike Arrington or like him either, I don't know him, I can only go by what he writes and what I've seen of him on line. He does like to stir things up, but I not sure if he is always ready for the reaction he gets, when he is not he comes across as self involved. Saying that I certain he would be both fascinating and hair pulling guy to know
- Kim Landwehr
@Paul - yeah i thought the same..but its one person losing it. What i mean is, as much as i like/resppect him, Laporte isn't God - disagreements happen all the time at work and that doesn't make one person bad and the other good. Look, i'm not necessarily standing up for Mike here but I just want to try & put things in perspective. That argument on air is no where near enough for the targeted attacks I've personally seen online directed at him.
- Zee.
Mathew: Arrington has helped MANY people and startups. You are wrong when you say he only hurts people. Absolutely wrong.
- Robert Scoble
@Zee Laporte is by no means god.. LOL He's made his share of cock ups too in the past, but for all that Arrington has done good, he has a habit of rubbing people the wrong way if you know what I mean. He is deliberately abrasive because it brings him attention. When you're that abrasive you become someone that people love to hate.
- Paul OFlaherty
I like Mike. I like Pete at Mashable. I have huge disagreements with how both of them report the news,but that's just my perspective on process journalism. That said, I think it's unfair to judge the guy (Mike) based on what we read online from his media outlet as many of us seem to. Unless you've met the guy in person, it's no use in making an assertion one way or another I feel.
- Brandon Mendelson
Why do I get the feeling that the original question will not get answered in this thread? :) Based on a brief Google search, you can write a whole thesis on why people love/hate Arrington, and how justified it all is.
- Vincent van Wylick
@Brandon - exactly. Deliberately controversial posts are part of what makes Techcrunch a success. It's entertainment, pure and simple. People take it far too seriously.
- Martin Bryant
The problem is that it's not just entertainment. Techcrunch has a lot of voice and what it publishes can make huge waves on and off the internet. Whether such power should be wielded by a single person/editor, I don't know.
- Vincent van Wylick
TechCrunch has more than a dozen employees at this point.
- Robert Scoble
That's true, it's an organisation, which is great. But take today, he compared Friendfeed to a virus like Syphilis. I personally don't mind the comparison, but I'm sure other people will. It's provocative blogging and he's using a powerful platform, Techcrunch, to state a personal opinion. It's the nature of the internet that this is happening and I don't know where it's all going, but many little (potential) needles can make for a sharp object.
- Vincent van Wylick
@Paul - guess what, the Leo thing was a mistake, a misunderstanding. It was cleared up inside an hour by the two people involved on the dispute and it was over. You are barney fife and are not allowed to have an opinion because you were not invovled in the dispute and the people involved were finished with it. Leo said it was done and forgiven, so be done with it and forgive it and quit...
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- Matthew DeVries
from fftogo
Lol Abby...
- Zee.
@Matthew DeVires, The questions asked here by @Zee is "Why do SOME of you dislike/hate Michael Arrington?" The incident with Laporte is a perfect example of why people dislike Arrington. The fact that the settled things between them afterwards is immaterial.
- Paul OFlaherty
@Matthew DeVires I also suggest that instead of bitching at me for not reading what everybody else wrote in the thread, you go and read the question that started the thread!
- Paul OFlaherty
@Paul it is material only to people who are dumb enough to believe that incident characterizes either Michael or Leo.
- Robin Wauters
well said Robin
- Zee.
@Robin, I don't believe it does. It was certainly out of character for Leo to explode like that. Again, it was an example of how Arrington rubs people up the wrong way. How being deliberately abrasive make you the person people love to hate, which I believe I said earlier in this thread.
- Paul OFlaherty
i'm not a fan of Arrington. mostly because i find his mean-spirited behavior little more than link-baiting to promote his own self interest. i've watched from a distance (not a subsriber, etc.) and over the years i've seen him grow more and more strident in his posts - a typical pattern for someone on a personal downward spiral. in the last year this mean attitude has folded back on him...
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- MikeAmundsen
@Paul - That incident is not an incident, therefore is not relevant to the proceedings. You should delete your post and read the thread next time.
- Matthew DeVries
Every industry has its Limbaughs and Hannitys.
- Eric Rice
linkbaiting at its finest Zee, crawl back under a rock, you should be ashamed
- Patphelan
I'm ambivalent - that means I don't give a shit! :P
- Yuvi
@Pat - ashamed of myself?? Linkbaiting to what?
- Zee.
Not called for, or accurate Patphelan....
- Matthew DeVries
When I was in college, there was this kid who claimed to like hockey, and we were watching a game. We called the goalie a "Sieve". He thought it meant asshole, and started calling everyone that for like 2 weeks. It showed that he didn't know jack about hockey. You seem to have just learned the word "Link-baiting" think it just means asshole and you're tossing it where ever, though it doesn't even remotely apply.
- Matthew DeVries
Who?
- Alix Whitmire
His name was Dave Roy.
- Matthew DeVries
I don't dislike/hate Michael Arrington, he's been very helpful to me on a couple occasions, gotten me in contact with the right people right-away.
- Brandon
@Pat: This isn't baiting in any definition of the word. Zee asked an honest question which probably should have been asked a looong time ago before things got to this stage. The OP doesn't link back to anything anyway. Careful with your accusations, please.
- LANjackal
Heh, I read this thread before the current 'Friendfeed/Syphillis' post on TC. Annnnd that about sums it up. Makes me wanna go kill kittens.
- Eric Rice
I feel out of the loop on this, too.
- Fossil Huntress
I don't actually dislike him, I mean...I mentioned him in one of my songs. He does express strong opinions and usually a lot of people disagree with those opinions. I also think he does it on purpose to drive traffic, but I obviously can't prove that. Maybe he does believe all that stuff he writes :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The dude was right, this is a Mob here. You would think all you California dudes would be surfin' or eating mushrooms, but here you are picking on each other!
- ZuDfunck
I've delete a bunch of the last few comments from here - no i've never really done that before but the discussion was going completely off track...
- Zee.
@All: I think the main question here has been answered. MA's internet presence is how most people know him, and many of those people get a negative impression from that, myself admittedly included. On the other hand, those who know him in person or follow him very closely have a more neutral-to-positive view. Character judgments will always be subjective and therefore will always vary...
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- LANjackal
@Zee: Good call
- LANjackal
@matthew apples and oranges mate apples and oranges....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
No you didn't Zee, there were never any posts there. They were annulled from the proceedings and thus never happened. And now Paul and I will make up and no one gets to take either side, cause we're both hunky and dorry
- Matthew DeVries
Zee - excellent! That is exactly what comment moderation is for!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I started poking around the internet 12 years ago, and I spent a lot of time in political blogs, where feelings can run quite raw and grudges can be held forever. I've seen all manner of people and places, and I think I dislike Arrington for two reasons: (a) he runs his mouth without thinking far too frequently for someone who purportedly runs a "news" website and (b) I truly believe...
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- Steven Perez
ding ding ding. We have a winner here folks. Thanks Steven. People can hope all they want about a person's "good intentions" but ignoring your own powers of discernment and judgment in subservience to that hope is actually hopeless. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
For me, he falls into the same category as a lot of pundits: he has some very good, specific knowledge that he conflates into declarative statements of dubious provenance. While I can appreciate some of what he says, his often confrontational stance (before being questioned) is a turn off.
- Jennifer Dittrich
After 6 yrs managing the same store, I'm now moving to a new store. My current team is so upset. Hope they can make the transition. sad day.
Missed this. Kinda sucks but could be diff. city / state or ... Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Luckily, I will only be 4 stores away (about 8 miles). But it is still hard as most of my customers, live within 1 mile of my store. Very tough.
- Warren "WO" Owen
@PerezHilton & consider this: when you're not being mean, you're actually quite entertaining.
nope @perezhilton is never entertaining and a big IF on "when you're not being mean" I don't mind saying in limitation, the world would be better without him or others like him. He feeds the surface nasty garbage need of people who could spend more energy actually benefiting someone and something - you know the energy you're trying to foster with so many other great causes. Temple Stark...
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- Temple Stark
from email
Pop Quiz, Hotshot: And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!" Name the actor .. http://www.torontosun.com/enterta...
When i can get a movie question you know it's easy!! Samuel L. Jackson Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
@PerezHilton You are not a monster, but the vast majority of what you do... what you put into the world... is monstrous. I pray for you.
Nice. I like to not talk to sick mofos like @perezhilton but pity is a good response. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Why is it that, the more I read, the more I find out that most of my English teachers were completely and utterly full of shit?
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After getting into some good literary criticism courses in college, even as an undergrad, I noticed that my jr. high and high school English teachers were just not as strong as my profs were. I had a good grounding in writing, but not so much in reading and criticism.
- Ladybug Heather
...amen to that, from someone who has an bachelor in English Literature.
- .LAG liked that
Probably because they were? English teachers in high school in particular tend to be not very forward thinking, and just try to get their lessons out there and go. Obviously all of them aren't like that. College was better, and grad school was way better (M.A. in English Lit over here).
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Don't got down that road, Dan. English is used for a lot of reasons, from creativity to technical to the free flow of information. English teachers set a solid framework so you know what you're doing when you "break the rules.' As to your other message, people don't "regularly" use but to begin sentences. People should use it sparingly because it still acts, often, as a conjunction,...
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- Temple Stark
from email
I see where you're coming from, Temple. But more than anything, I'd say at least a third of what I was taught back in school is quite literally wrong now or it's changed so much that it may as well be wrong. Take a proper possessive noun. I was taught that if the noun ended in S but was becoming possessive, you added the apostrophe at the end like "Bess' coat." See that? I also did...
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- Dan Messer
Dan, I don't think we were taught things that were "wrong," but I do think writing styles have changed. Journalistic styles vary from 8th grade English styles, too. I've noticed the change in how apostrophes are used, but I still do it the way I was taught. (And I was blessed with a terrific English teacher from 10th-12th grade who taught us on a college level.)
- Laura Lou Who
Heather - I'm the opposite. I'm not confident in my writing but I can critique the hell out of a book (at least orally). Also, I think the books we're required to read in high school build a good foundation. I would've never read some of them on my own and they introduced me to authors I love. My college literature classes were amazing and some of my favorite books were read there: i.e. Marriete in Ecsatsy and The Book of Daniel.
- Lis Miller
It's less that high school English teachers teach is wrong than that they teach it as the only right way. They don't tell you that the Oxford comma is standard in academic English, but completely eschewed in journalism. They don't tell you that the five-paragraph essay is a useful place to start, but that your college professors are going to show you many more, and more interesting,...
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- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The more I live and learn, the more I realize that most of my teachers (in every topic) were full of it.
- Curt Mercadante
I am so sad, I alphabetize my Dock... - http://friendfeed.com/e...
I have mine on the left side and have it in order of use with most used near bottom, lesser going up. 22 items there. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
just passed a traffic accident..i have a ton of camera gear in the trunk..i always feel conflicted about stopping & shooting.
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why, don't. Do it, if you have a purpose in mind, a worthy reason....
- Temple Stark
it be very interesting to have a convo on thats fact versus fiction on shooting a 'scene' for a paper..
What do you mean. You mean "making the news" or posing people to catch a moment. And i'm assuming paper = newspaper but it might not ???
- Temple Stark
So far it is @naum @Stang5_0 @transmatrix @thegeekswife @TInkFan with a big nod for Carumba's for #WVFN. Any other ideas out there? @kspidel
bit of a delayed response but if i'm not going to a film preview party that day i'm there. Can't remember exact day at the moment Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
there's this odd grammatical mistake I've noticed more often in Indian English of late - a space before the punctuation mark
don't get me started :-) Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
id be there at midnight. ilove Denny's from dusk to dawn. Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
End of my dock.. 6 cranes in reeds.. Sunset gently begins.. - Photo: http://brightkite.com/objects...
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You gotsa some views there Elta. I've clicked on a few of the other ones, too. Where are you again? Michigan? Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Got laughed at and honked at while riding bike on streets in downtown Everett. Come on people. Gimme a break.
fuck em rude, as.., er, that is ride your bike - you're burning calories - they're not! Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Games Workshop Chaos Lord of Slaanesh Box Set - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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Crystal - if it's the same O'Hara - i didn't think you'd be into anything Games Workshop -like. you put my brain back a few years to the Talisman RPG series Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.com http://twitter.com/templestark http://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
Unofficial Official Live Thread - LA Lakers vs Denver Nuggets - Game 4 @ 9:00PM EST/6:00PM PST on ESPN
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Game on - Starts in about 25 minutes - See you all here!
- Bwana ☠
hey people
- Kenny
Go Nuggets. Go George Karl. Lakers need to sit down to a superior team (maybe not superior talent - but a superior team)
- Temple Stark
from email
Agreed
- Kenny
hopefully this one will be exciting
- Kenny
GO KOBE JAMES BILLUPS!
- Bwana ☠
I wonder if Bynum will answer to Phil jackson's plea to play better D?
- Bwana ☠
My prediction: The Nuggets win by 5
- Bwana ☠
Should be an exciting game. If it's a blowout either way, I'll be surprised.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Side note: I hate Denver's jersey colors
- Bwana ☠
Bwana, I hate to say it, but you're probably right. Nuggets by 5.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
This year has revisited the notion of "home court advantage"
- Bwana ☠
i think they will win by 2
- Kenny
the nuggets
- Kenny
Wow, I turn, take a drink and Kobe's on the line
- Bwana ☠
Hey Bwana!
- David
Hey David, welcome to the thread
- Bwana ☠
They're not calling push-offs....good!
- Bwana ☠
Thanks. Looking forward to a good game
- David
Nice
- Kenny
ouch!
- David
There's that "awesome" Laker D
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Kenny
Good foul
- Bwana ☠
yep
- Kenny
Fish has got to come out of his slump
- David
they need farmar
- Kenny
And Bynum wants to know why he doesn't play much?
- Bwana ☠
there's one reason
- Bwana ☠
I don't know what's wrong with Bynum. Maturity?
- David
Injuries for one, some lose their edge after they come back
- Bwana ☠
Example: Grant Hill
- Bwana ☠
I'm afraid he's going to be "injured" his whole career
- David
lol
- Kenny
poor acting Kobe
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Bwana ☠
awsome d
- Kenny
Terrible shooting continues
- Bwana ☠
On both sides
- Bwana ☠
yea denver should be sinking most the shots
- Kenny
Hey Bwana did you get the cupcake update yet?
- David
No :(
- Bwana ☠
I'm liking that samsung ich7000 (or whatever it is)
- David
LOL ...Bank!
- Bwana ☠
go Fish
- David
oh good grief
- Bwana ☠
everybody just stood there
- Bwana ☠
do somethin Bynum
- David
I hate poor D, no matter who it is
- Bwana ☠
Maybe he's afraid of fouling out
- David
Gasol's been doing his job all year. Get on the other guys!
- David
dumb foul, agreed, but he spun right into him
- Bwana ☠
at least he HELPED
- Bwana ☠
which others don't want to do
- Bwana ☠
Gasol can do that all night
- Bwana ☠
afraid of fouling
- Bwana ☠
Man, what's going on tonight
- Bwana ☠
If they shoot like this vs the Eastern champion, it's going to be a 5 game final series
- Bwana ☠
Orlando beat the Lakers both times during the season, didn't they?
- David
they had a favorable record...yes
- Bwana ☠
dont' know if they swept
- Bwana ☠
I know we swept Cleveland! Go Cleveland!!
- David
Although Cleveland would have home court
- David
Live feed FTW!!!!
- Amani
Hey Amani
- Bwana ☠
where a live feed?
- Kenny
right here!
- David
?
- Kenny
Gasol needs to inject Bynum with defense juice
- Bwana ☠
That didn't sound right
- Bwana ☠
lol
- David
wow
- David
Hi Odom, welcome to the game
- Bwana ☠
Man if someone hit some shots, they'd be up by 20
- Bwana ☠
Love how everybody boo's Kobe
- David
haha
- Bwana ☠
They don't get that that fires him up
- David
see
- David
Poor Martin
- Bwana ☠
I don't know about this "LeBron is better" stuff!
- David
LeBron maybe younger and stronger, but tougher? Na
- David
Speaking of Lebron, I love those commercials with he and Kobe as puppets
- Bwana ☠
And the baby powder....yeah, LOL
- David
Birdman!
- Jed
ouch
- David
*does the bird dance*
- Rodfather
I haven't seen him flap his arms all series.
- Jed
Why is Odom shooting jump shots?
- David
BerrrrrrrrdddMaaan
- Bwana ☠
oooooooooo.
- Jed
Haha awesome
- Rodfather
There's the flapping!
- Jed
lol
- David
kok
- Kenny
ol*
- Kenny
lol*
- Kenny
get it to Gasol damnit
- David
That awesome Laker D
- Bwana ☠
T him up!
- Rodfather
Birdman
- Kenny
RT @lakersnation: Birdman is re-enacting the scene from Angels in the Outfield with his flying motions . . . looked stupid in the movie, looks stupid on tv!
- David
I would take him on any team, unless it was for a slam dunk competition.
- Jed
a little biased?
- David
what a stupid ass twitter name
- Rodfather
lol
- Kenny
birdman is the man
- Kenny
He reminds me of Bo Outlaw in all the right ways
- Rodfather
He needs goggles!
- Jed
That would complete the birdman image.
- Jed
lol goggles
- Kenny
thats why they need farmar
- Kenny
fish would have missed that
- Kenny
Don't worry, Farmar will blow a few layups to make up for it.
- Rodfather
Lakers gonna have to make a comeback
- Bwana ☠
a big one
- Bwana ☠
like in game 3?
- David
yup
- Bwana ☠
Bynum still looks out of it. What's wrong with that guy
- Rodfather
no way
- Kenny
(praying)
- David
and they better now let ariza do the same thing at the end
- Kenny
They're doing this with Billups and Anthony on the bench.
- Jed
Who hijacked JR Smith's body?
- JKidd5
sheesh
- David
i know right
- Kenny
That awesome Laker D
- Bwana ☠
Bynum...
- Rodfather
And Bynum wonders why he doesn't get playing time?
- Bwana ☠
LA is getting molly wopped
- JKidd5
There's another reason
- Bwana ☠
NOOOOOO
- Kenny
not melo
- Kenny
Damn.
- Rodfather
Injuries suck!!
- David
Damn it
- Kenny
Why is Anthony Carter defending Kobe? Did he grow 5 inches
- JKidd5
Lol
- Kenny
I don't think he'll miss much playing time
- Bwana ☠
he tried
- Kenny
I love Van Gundy
- David
they should bring in bullups in for kobe
- Kenny
Nuggets should be up by 18
- Bwana ☠
which may turn out to be the difference in the game
- Bwana ☠
Take out JR. He's due to do something idiotic
- Rodfather
Why would you make that pass?
- JKidd5
Does he think Nene is Dwight Howard?
- JKidd5
kik]
- Kenny
lol*
- Kenny
I thought it was jr
- Kenny
Yeah, someone with a brain and applicable basketball IQ has hijacked Smith's body for the moment
- JKidd5
And AMani JR Smith doesn't deserve a "Mr" for the record
- JKidd5
;)
- JKidd5
lol hopefully the old jr smith doesn't come back
- Kenny
Carl's been in the sun
- Bwana ☠
He makes a three for every other mistake he makes.
- Jed
or he had one of them burritos
- Bwana ☠
The Old JR Smith will show up eventually, that is a given
- JKidd5
lol @bwana
- Kenny
booo
- David
*bwana
- Kenny
I have no idea how LA is within 13
- JKidd5
Denver is smacking them around
- JKidd5
like that
- David
omg
- Kenny
nice
- Kenny
Holy crap!! Fisher knocked one down!!! There goes those pigs outside my window
- JKidd5
haha
- David
Denver wants it more
- Bwana ☠
who has a virus?
- David
wow Lakers don't look like they want it
- Rodfather
lol
- Kenny
LOL @ Smith arguing
- JKidd5
Lakers don't want it
- Bwana ☠
You only kneed him in the head JR
- JKidd5
*back
- JKidd5
He climbed the ladder on that one
- Bwana ☠
Give him a T and get it over with
- JKidd5
Van Gundy is awesome,
- Jed
lol @ "not a foul"
- Bwana ☠
cmon Van gundy...it's a foul
- David
Van Gundy is entertaining
- JKidd5
wow
- Rodfather
they should be up by 25 at this point
- Bwana ☠
Who is the guy wearing the Smith jersey? Im utterly flabbergasted
- JKidd5
hahaha
- David
lol
- Kenny
LOL
- Bwana ☠
Hot potato!
- Bwana ☠
luck never hurts
- David
Let's do it!
- Carlton Hackett
Somebody tell Odom he's not a point guard
- Bwana ☠
Wow, Melo.. Phil Jackson must've sent some strippers up to his hotel room
- JKidd5
Odom wants to be point forward like Anthony Mason
- Rodfather
who has a stomach flu? melo?
- David
Ankle?
- Jed
bwana didn't you see terminator salvation?
- Kenny
no
- Bwana ☠
oh
- Kenny
i thought you did
- Kenny
...
- Bwana ☠
you gonna see it?
- Kenny
If Lakers can keep it within 10. we got a chance.
- David
if it's a 10 pt lead at the half, Nuggets may lose
- Bwana ☠
what was that?
- David
I don't know Kenny
- Bwana ☠
how did fish get that jump?? lol
- David
Nene defense = nonexistent.
- Jed
It's not even halftime hah
- Rodfather
6 points
- David
Is LA ever going to crash the boards?
- Bwana ☠
Nobody jumped
- Bwana ☠
my goodness
- Bwana ☠
this is where Denver shows their inexperience
- David
Melo is hurtin
- David
with a look like that, you better have energy
- David
I'm glad he's effective after being out of the league for 3 years
- Rodfather
This is the one of the ugliest games I've seen in the playoffs
- Bwana ☠
Yesterday's game was pretty ugly.
- Jed
Actually, it was 2 years
- Rodfather
Every time.
- Bwana ☠
Kobe...win or die tryin
- David
Thank you Walton for stopping that back door nonsense
- Bwana ☠
Lakers look asleep
- Rodfather
I can't believe it's not a 30 pt game
- Bwana ☠
If the Lakers play a C game, while the Nuggets continue sleepwalking... watch out :)
- JKidd5
Nuggets in trouble I think
- Bwana ☠
I bet the Nuggets win this one
- Cristo
They still have to win 2 in LA
- David
Lakers will make a run
- Bwana ☠
Isn't it just one?
- Jed
The question is
- Bwana ☠
I'm not saying Nuggets win the series. I think they win this one though.
- Cristo
Will Denver match it
- Bwana ☠
I think their 3 point shooting is bound to pick up.
- Jed
Bird man is going to take over.
- Cristo
If the Lakers would play defense, they would win easily.
- David
Seems like both teams are asleep
- Cristo
Laker's never play defense
- Cristo
They did during the regular season
- David
Michael Jordan's Chicago Bull's would have beat their asses so hard, they would have been swept with their tails between their legs. Kobe can't defend.
- Cristo
It's sad that a team as flawed as the Lakers are still the NBA's best
- JKidd5
Dunno why people compare Kobe to MJ. There is no comparison. Kobe can't hold MJ's jock
- JKidd5
endless debate
- David
David, only endless because Laker fans are not living in reality. And I say that as a Laker fan. MJ and the Bulls were the best of all time, and you can suck the Bulls nuts if you don't agree.
- Cristo
whatever
- David
It's an argument no one can win
- David
Check out all those Laker teams that beat the Bulls in the 90s. Remember, they ended both Magic and Karreem careers. I bet all the Laker fans thought the Lakers would roll over the Bulls.
- Cristo
On paper, Lakers should be blowing out games. They are so deep.
- Rodfather
This is how the Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain fans felt when we called Jordan the best
- Bwana ☠
oops hit enter too early
- Bwana ☠
Every generation will have their best... this upcoming generation didn't witness Jordan live
- Bwana ☠
There's no question Jordan was the best ever, I just can't stand the debate because it never ends
- David
Current generation should just watch some Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen YouTube. They would beat any team today.
- Cristo
I can't stand it because it has no merits
- JKidd5
I would have loved to see Oscar average a triple double or Wilt go crazy. Too bad there's really no archives of that
- Rodfather
Kobe can't touch Michael
- JKidd5
The Magic era Lakers would beat any team today also. so what?
- David
There would be no Kobe without Jordan. Kobe tried to emulate Jordan in every way. Even how he talked.
- Rodfather
Yep
- JKidd5
I think Jordan's legacy is timeless. The fact that the Jordan brand exists is proof of that. It's like Gretzky with hockey.
- Jed
David, I disagree with you on the Lakers. They couldn't even always beat the Celtics. The Bulls played defense, and Jordan was one of the best defensive players ever. The best Bulls team would have beat the best Lakers team. No defense equals no win.
- Cristo
The Celtics of the 80's could beat any team today also. it's a lame argument
- David
Comparing current players is hard enough, there's no point in comparing eras/generations.
- Jed
Exactly
- David
You can't compare different era's. The Dream Team was the best team ever though
- Rodfather
The Bulls were the best team of all time. They could have beat any team. Michael Jordan was the best player of all time. There as been no better.
- Cristo
in your opinion
- David
And that's where I can't agree
- Bwana ☠
I'll agree to disagree and move on
- Bwana ☠
hence the reason I hate these debates
- David
lol
- Bwana ☠
Yup, in my opinion. Nobody won like the Bulls. Last minute shots. They defeated everyone. I would love to see them play the best teams, like your Lakers and your Celtics.
- Cristo
time for a snack
- David
I refilled my iced tea
- Bwana ☠
so I'm ready
- Bwana ☠
Go Carmelo. I used to be a Lakers fan, but I went to Syracuse. ;) Hey, how many championships have the Lakers had without Shaq?
- Cristo
Bynum! Defense! Wow!
- Bwana ☠
:)
- Bwana ☠
haha
- David
maybe he got scolded in the locker room'
- David
Ooooohhhh
- Bwana ☠
Gasol went Dr J.!!!
- Bwana ☠
here they come
- David
Gasol is so nasty
- JKidd5
That was Dr J! Van Gundy is right
- Bwana ☠
Anybody else here rooting for the nuggets?
- Cristo
WOW TRAVEL!
- JKidd5
Holy shit
- JKidd5
me
- Kenny
LOL - Travel...NBA rocks
- Bwana ☠
Or just a bunch of rapist cheerleaders?
- Cristo
I root for anyone playing against the Lakers :D
- Rodfather
???
- Bwana ☠
wow cristo
- David
Don't ruin the thread...that was...uncalled for
- Bwana ☠
Time for another CW comment delete in 3..2..
- Rodfather
Melo is doing his best John Starks in the 94 Finals impersonation
- JKidd5
Yeah, you remember when Kobe Bryant raped the Denver girl a few years ago in Denver?
- Cristo
Nice finish
- Bwana ☠
nice 3
- Bwana ☠
wow...that shut the crowd up
- Bwana ☠
Denver will start taking badshots
- David
Gasol is serious
- JKidd5
Will Denver answer the run?
- Bwana ☠
There will be another one in the 4th
- Bwana ☠
wow
- Bwana ☠
Dohntay Jones taking 3s lol
- JKidd5
Good foul
- Bwana ☠
Nene should have just dunked it
- Rodfather
Nice move
- Rodfather
dumb foul
- Bwana ☠
nice
- David
Hey guys! missing the chat, at my parents house, 1:30 away, need to leave but don't want to miss the 4th qtr
- Wayne Sutton
Lakers going to pull it out
- Wayne Sutton
:)
- Bwana ☠
See you in the 4th Wayne
- Bwana ☠
may miss it, need to hit the road..hmm leave now & miss the game or hit I-40?
- Wayne Sutton
How was the 1st half?
- Wayne Sutton
Ugly, but Lakers are staying close
- David
It was ugly...uglier than last night's game
- Bwana ☠
money
- David
Denver answered the first run
- Bwana ☠
wow, glad I missed it, worse than last night, ok i'm going to hit the road and hope the lakers can pull it out. chat with you tomorrow.
- Wayne Sutton
Lakers getting killed on the boards man
- Bwana ☠
yup
- David
woo
- Kenny
will someone crash the boards
- Bwana ☠
Nope? ok
- Bwana ☠
Denver wins by 20 then
- Bwana ☠
heheh
- Bwana ☠
get a freakin rebound
- David
Shaq isn't there....
- Jed
Denver is in a groove
- Rodfather
should have been a no-call
- Rodfather
Odom can't throw a pea in the ocean right now
- David
lead about to open
- Bwana ☠
may get up to 18
- Bwana ☠
Odom should be under the basket, not shooting 3's
- David
Lakers miss Turiaf
- Rodfather
Kobe's mad now..
- JKidd5
that's a foul
- David
Look for him to shoot 90 more shots for the rest of the game
- JKidd5
i don't like the 7 technical rule either
- Rodfather
take Odom out
- David
Dohntay Jones is a dirty little prick. I hope one of the Lakers "accidentally" puts him on his ass when he comes to the lane
- JKidd5
where? where?
- David
Biiiiiirdman!
- Rodfather
sheesh
- David
that right
- Kenny
Good feed Luke
- JKidd5
this looks just like game 3
- David
Birdman. I guess Shaq would have kept that out.
- Cristo
Shaq? Shaq has been to two teams since LA
- Bwana ☠
GO Denver .... From Blazer fan
- Michael Holzinger
lol
- Bwana ☠
Exactly. Laker's suck without Shaq.
- Cristo
It ain't shaq, it's lack of Bynum
- Bwana ☠
Gasol can only do so much
- Bwana ☠
I think Kobe and Wade may live with that stigma for a while.
- Jed
Lakers wish Bynum would show up
- Rodfather
I wish Bynum was in the game. Can't show up if you don't play
- David
Are you guys betting on the Lakers winning the finals? Lol.
- Cristo
I didn't think the Nuggets would be this though
- Bwana ☠
Originally I thought the LAkers would skate to the finals
- Bwana ☠
lol, so did I Bwana
- David
I was hoping Houston would take out the Lakers. Denver started looking really good toward the end of the season
- Rodfather
Dirty
- David
I'm sure it happens in every game. (Yes even Kobe does it)
- Jed
bad shots
- David
more bad shots
- David
He's a dirty player now
- Rodfather
"Hes not a dirty player"
- JKidd5
Lakers wouldn't beat almost any other Laker team in history.
- Cristo
he's a dirty player with that
- Bwana ☠
that's just wrong
- Bwana ☠
Apparently Van Gundy has been calling the game with his eyes closed
- JKidd5
*games
- JKidd5
Van Gundy needs to calm down
- Bwana ☠
What wrong is the officiating
- David
That was seriously low.
- Admiral Anika
They wouldn't beat the team that got slammed by the Bulls in 1990.. They suck.
- Cristo
Fire the sweat boy
- Bwana ☠
:)
- Bwana ☠
VIP lady apologizing to the person who spilled the drink
- Bwana ☠
Finally.
- Jed
"Sorry your spill stopped the game"
- Bwana ☠
Walton got dish skillz!
- Bwana ☠
HAHA you see that pass
- Bwana ☠
Great shot selection JR
- JKidd5
I saw him thinking it.
- Jed
You guys need Magic and Kareem to get into the game.
- Cristo
keep Bynum in the game
- David
my 5 point prediction may hold
- Bwana ☠
I love these puppet commercials
- Bwana ☠
LOL
- Bwana ☠
They'd probably still play better than these guys
- Cristo
the one about the rings is my favorite
- Bwana ☠
havent seen this one, lol
- David
hilarious
- David
hahahaha
- Bwana ☠
Phil Jackson should define defense to these guys.
- Cristo
"Have you seen my 3 CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS!?"
- Bwana ☠
I've only seen the powder one
- David
Have you seen the 3 championship rings Shaq got me.
- Cristo
To youtube!
- Bwana ☠
Amani - too late
- Bwana ☠
I wouldn't mind seeing an Orlando/Lakers final. Laker's bigs are soft
- Rodfather
3 championship rings - v
- Bwana ☠
Another great decision by Smith... Geez
- JKidd5
Still anyone's game
- Rodfather
OMG that's funny
- David
the cookies man...hahaha
- Bwana ☠
the display case...lol
- David
Will Gasol win another
- Bwana ☠
All signs point to ..nooo
- Bwana ☠
rebounds
- Bwana ☠
bynum!!!!!
- David
Is this the 4th qtr run?
- Bwana ☠
Will Denver answer?
- Bwana ☠
This is the JR Smith I know and love
- JKidd5
too early
- David
wow
- Rodfather
omg
- Bwana ☠
yeah, fuck the lakers.
- Cristo
yup, stepped on his foot
- Bwana ☠
Only down by 10. I'm sure they can come back.
- Cristo
oh my
- Rodfather
bibibibibibiblups!!!
- Cee Bee
nice 3
- Bwana ☠
nice
- Kenny
:(
- David
It's called karma
- Cristo
So far, Lakers haven't showed me they can close a 10pt lead this game
- Bwana ☠
Timeout lakerrs
- Rodfather
Wow.
- Jed
why are Kobe and Gasol out?
- David
White flag?
- Jed
Cookies and Milk time
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Bwana ☠
jr smith has been playin real aggressive all game. at times a little too much, but the energy is appreciated
- Cee Bee
lol
- Kenny
hahah
- David
did you see that slow mo of smith
- Kenny
Kings of Comedy
- Bwana ☠
comical
- Kenny
Laker's should be booking their vacations.
- Cristo
Nice move Bynum
- Rodfather
There's the Bynum we're missing
- David
strong move
- Bwana ☠
aannd misses the and-1
- Bwana ☠
pop
- Bwana ☠
Can't forget about Linus
- Rodfather
Yeah, go Lakers!
- Cristo
it's gettin...it's gettin...it's gettin kinda hectic
- Bwana ☠
Someone enlighten me on something real quick
- JKidd5
Lakers might be done now. Luke Walton is the best player on the Nuggets right now
- Cee Bee
I think that was meant as an alleyoop
- David
8 mins left in the 4th, game 4 of the west finals, why is Kobe on the bench?
- JKidd5
Wuhhhhaaaallleee
- Bwana ☠
That's what I'm wondering Jkidd5
- David
I bet daddy Walton is proud of his Son's performance for the Nuggets
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Kenny
Walton has the look of a major dbag
- JKidd5
Tell him he sucks next time you see him
- JKidd5
He owns a bbq place somewhere around here
- David
WTF
- JKidd5
Kobe is STILL on the bench
- JKidd5
He called Phil a punk
- Bwana ☠
I guess Phil is conceding the game
- JKidd5
You don't call Phil a punk
- Bwana ☠
who called phil a punk
- David
I'm kidding
- Bwana ☠
Talking about Kobe lol
- Bwana ☠
ahh
- David
lol, sorry
- David
bonk
- Bwana ☠
lol odom wink
- Kenny
time to put kobe in
- Rodfather
Well, the benching of the starters is a surprising move...I'm sure it'll be talked about
- Bwana ☠
LMAO @ Smith
- JKidd5
nice shot
- David
really smith?
- Kenny
JR Smith makes Kobe's shot selection look great
- JKidd5
lol
- Kenny
Good foul shooting on the Lakers.
- Cristo
he makes almost everybodies shot selection look good
- Kenny
man Kobe is going to have to re-stretch
- Bwana ☠
he's been out for...what..6 minutes?
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Bwana ☠
Jackson has Kobe out for next season.
- Cristo
LMAOOOOOOOOO @ Smith
- JKidd5
YAYYY
- Bwana ☠
JR Smith is BACK
- Bwana ☠
Wow
- Kenny
Seriously, that guy is the definition of 'Low IQ basketball player'
- JKidd5
at the worst time
- Kenny
bonk
- Bwana ☠
doesn't matter
- Bwana ☠
Nice technical shot.
- Cristo
Lakers are deciding what to watch on the ride home
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Kenny
Melo is hurting
- Rodfather
late whistle
- Bwana ☠
Kobe is sleeping.
- Cristo
bring Kobe in now please
- David
Kobe in
- Kenny
boo
- Kenny
Lakers actually closed the lead
- Bwana ☠
while he was on the bench
- Bwana ☠
With bench players
- David
bad shots
- Rodfather
Kobe, it's legal to pass
- JKidd5
Kobe in take over mode
- Bwana ☠
Get it in to Bynum
- David
and I bet Phil told him to
- Bwana ☠
oh cmon
- David
Not a flagrant.
- Jed
Nope
- Bwana ☠
But what isn't this playoffs.
- Jed
Oh fucking please on that call. Geez
- JKidd5
bad call
- Bwana ☠
*these playoffs.
- Jed
They are way to trigger happy with flaygrant fouls
- David
Can we put these guys in skirts, knee highs and heels already? Good grief
- JKidd5
Brrr Brrr http://i41.tinypic.com/2zs4k68...
- Cee Bee
You brutish Lakers.
- Cristo
LOL amani
- JKidd5
Pumps were awesome.
- Jed
The lakers are already in skirts.
- Cristo
lol
- Kenny
Was it Kemp who pumped it?
- Jed
Thought it was grandmama
- David
Larry Johnson
- Bwana ☠
ding ding we have a winner
- Bwana ☠
I don't see how a "bird" is beating up the lakers so bad
- Matt Bebich
loved that nickname
- David
Except they're going to lose.
- Cristo
Dee Brown. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Jed
The Lakers should be tearing up Denver in the inside they should just give it to Bynum and Gasol and let them go to work
- Matt Bebich
Naturally one of the commentators HAS to agree with the refs no matter what
- Bwana ☠
lol
- David
Lol
- Kenny
The refs need some love from someone
- Matt Bebich
Do their jobs properly and they will get love
- JKidd5
Melo needed that
- Rodfather
Yeah, it's the refs fault the Lakers suck.
- Cristo
tell em Van Gundy
- David
that shouldn't have been called a technical on bynum, but still http://i40.tinypic.com/5x8xgo...
- Cee Bee
No, the refs usually give the Lakers all the call
- JKidd5
*calls
- JKidd5
I was not insinuating the refs have impacted this game
- JKidd5
wow tough shot
- Bwana ☠
Thats because it wasn't a good shot
- JKidd5
Take over mode
- David
Bynum 6-7 14 points he should have like 20 attempts just give it to him he'll do the rest
- Matt Bebich
The problem is, he doesn't know what to do.
- Jed
I agree Matt
- David
man, these fouls are coming from lack of footwork
- Bwana ☠
Bynum is a great player he is just trying to get the flow of his game back
- Matt Bebich
dayum
- David
Bynum's head isn't straight
- Rodfather
Kobe may get 50
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Bwana ☠
Or he may put up 50 shot attempts
- JKidd5
they aren't going to win with 3 pointers
- David
Kobe should just focus on D
- Matt Bebich
I'm telling ya Phil is telling him to do it
- Bwana ☠
Kobe forgot how to pass when the playoffs started
- Rodfather
Talk to Phil about it
- Bwana ☠
Off topic, but I'm assuming @DickBavetta isn't really him?
- Jed
you might be right Bwana
- David
Kobe never knew how to pass
- JKidd5
Walton needs to move his feet
- Bwana ☠
that's a sad display of D my friend
- Bwana ☠
They should be going inside out though
- David
LOLuke Walton
- Cee Bee
lol
- Kenny
embarrassment
- Bwana ☠
:)
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Kenny
I'm out of players!
- Bwana ☠
Put me in Phil!
- Bwana ☠
Phil just tell the ref about his momma and get ejected
- JKidd5
:O
- Bwana ☠
nice headgames phil. that will get you absolutely nowhere
- Cee Bee
Radio's talking about a staring contest.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
time for 3s
- Bwana ☠
About time Phil shows some emotion
- Matt Bebich
another technical
- Bwana ☠
the officiating is a joke
- David
wow a foul and a T on Melo? stern putting in that phone call late in the game, i seee
- Cee Bee
that wasn't a t
- Kenny
No delay of game but give Melo a T?
- Rodfather
it was the hack after the whistle
- Bwana ☠
here come the Kobe sucks chant
- David
Just call it a game already...
- Jed
which was minimal
- Bwana ☠
hardly worth of a T
- Bwana ☠
come on
- Rodfather
LOL @ this
- JKidd5
HAHA
- Bwana ☠
WTF
- Kenny
oh jeez
- David
Everybody climb into a car
- Bwana ☠
I think the refs have a quota.
- Jed
And put on a clown show
- Bwana ☠
Denver is absolutely a boneheaded basketball team
- JKidd5
Cue Benny Hill music
- Bwana ☠
lol
- David
refs are on some bullshit right now. ridiculous. refereeing has been the worst it's ever been.
- Cee Bee
Martin is just stupid hahahaha
- Bwana ☠
What was that?!?!
- Bwana ☠
you're winning
- Bwana ☠
and you do that
- Bwana ☠
Kmart is not the sharpest tool in the shed
- David
How much are the Laker's paying the Refs?
- Cristo
Hopefully a lot
- Matt Bebich
Yes, it's the refs fault the Nuggets are boneheaded
- JKidd5
Bwana, he would do it if they were losing. At least he's consistent.
- Jed
did he ever "take care of" Mark Cuban?
- David
Um, I watched both plays Those weren't fouls.
- Cristo
Why are they fouling?
- Bwana ☠
stern wants that Kobe vs Lebron final. you know it's the truth
- Cee Bee
I'm a bit confused
- Bwana ☠
You're winning
- Bwana ☠
Clock is creeping
- Bwana ☠
inexperience
- David
jesus Christ
- JKidd5
They're trying to artificially create a "Where amazing happens." moment.
- Jed
I think they want to lose Bwana
- Matt Bebich
The FF live feed is about 15 seconds ahead of the interwebz radio feed I am forced to listen to tonight
- Steve
You mean 'Where Fouls add 2 hours to the game happens'
- JKidd5
amazing the game is this close
- Bwana ☠
Steve, watch it here: http://www.justin.tv/big_bad_1
- Graham English
denver fans need to be careful or they'll catch a technical too
- Cee Bee
you all need to work on your color commentary
- Steve
FriendFeed chat may get a technical...
- Jed
lol
- David
NBA refs: Where inconsistency happens
- Cee Bee
where is the ff live feed?
- Kenny
Technical foul on Dwight Howard!
- Bwana ☠
owait
- Bwana ☠
LOL
- Steve
Kenny - it's here! Live feed = Live chat
- Bwana ☠
ha.
- Jed
NBA refs: Where Tim Donaghy and obvious fixing happens
- JKidd5
oh
- Kenny
thanks @graham
- Steve
let's see if there are any MORE mental breakdowns
- Bwana ☠
that's the only way Denver loses
- Bwana ☠
Brain deadness
- Bwana ☠
I think Dick Bavetta just called a technical on me during commercial break
- Cee Bee
Lakers are out of time
- David
There's your mental breakdown hah
- Rodfather
Farmar was open
- Bwana ☠
We need some Ariza steals
- David
Kobe is like MJ, minus the winning
- Cristo
Dagger
- Rodfather
Brown has hops
- Matt Bebich
JR SMith with the dagger!
- Cee Bee
Lakers are giving up
- David
now see
- Bwana ☠
Lakers didn't show up tonight
- Rodfather
They called those other tit for tat, and they didn't call that one
- Bwana ☠
nice defense
- David
DANG, Denver is bringing it.
- Admiral Anika
Denver still has to win 2 in LA
- David
they'll do it
- Kenny
Nene doesn't show up on the road
- Matt Bebich
Bite your tongue KENNY
- David
Lol
- Kenny
First blowout of the conference finals
- Bwana ☠
Chauncey Bibibibbblups!
- Cee Bee
I hate blowouts...glad this is the first
- Bwana ☠
biggest problem...effort!!
- David
lol
- Kenny
Lakers were still in it until the end. Not a good sign for Denver
- Rodfather
nice one
- Kenny
I just dont get how Kobe who was building houses, has thrown up 26 shots while Gasol and Bynum are shooting a combined 77% throw up 18 combined. It's really baffling
- JKidd5
Right now in Denver Billups>Elway
- Steve
Answer: Phil Jackson
- Bwana ☠
Lakers aren't even pissed. Give a hard foul. They already gave up
- Rodfather
Yeah, look at Denver. Oooh. Scary. Slam that ball home
- Cristo
phil needs to break out the Zen books
- David
The Lakers need to play D
- Matt Bebich
Kareem should go an suit up
- Matt Bebich
How do they let Petro go coast 2 coast. Ridiculous. Lakers deserve to lose the series.
- Rodfather
oh well
- David
lol
- Kenny
Both teams stunk it up... Denver made half their shots which is why they won by 20 and not 40
- Bwana ☠
120 Lakers. 120. You are so good.
- Cristo
Wooo
- Kenny
I think this isn't good for the Lakers. They won 2 games by the skin of their teeth over two dumb inbound Denver plays & they got dominated here despite the ticky tack fouls from the refs
- Cee Bee
Playoff teams that went home are like - Why you didn't play like that against us?!?!
- Bwana ☠
Refs sucked both ways
- Bwana ☠
inconsistent
- Bwana ☠
Bwana, yeah Lakers stunk it up and proved they don't deserve to be in any top 30 list of teams.
- Cristo
yup
- David
lol
- Kenny
lol yeah right
- Matt Bebich
Smith did good in this game
- Kenny
Lakers are still one of the best teams
- Matt Bebich
Nobody on the Lakers are showing they are pissed for getting blown out.
- Rodfather
Best teams of what? The last year? They would get so blown out by any good team in history.
- Cristo
Nice talking to everyone...Bwana, thanks for the thread!!
- David
see ya David
- Bwana ☠
lets hope he isn't back to the old smith in next game
- Kenny
seeya david
- Kenny
Till next time
- David
What was the final again?
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Bwana ☠
101 120
- Kenny
Denver wins! LAL 101 DEN 120
- Bwana ☠
Thnx Kenny, I looked it up too :)
- Bwana ☠
np
- Kenny
haha nice one Cee Bee
- Rodfather
Lmao at ceebee
- Kenny
lol!!!
- Bwana ☠
what the heck!?!
- Bwana ☠
that one gets a spot on my hardrive
- Kenny
I wish you could add images to threads after the fact
- Bwana ☠
Stuart Scott needs to go away
- Rodfather
Bwana thanks for the thread I forgot about it until late in the game :(
- Matt Bebich
2 ugly games in a row. I hope it gets better.
- Rodfather
Nice Mexican launch with most of the family out in Wellington. @jinfinite8 should just drop me back off at the gym tho!
So what's a Mexican launch? :-) And are you in New Zealand
- Temple Stark
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