FYI to Twitter Users: If you follow me and you use the default Avatar, I will never follow you back. Also to spammers, at least you could make a little effort and come up with a fake face.
+1. Actually I don't automatically return follows on Twitter because Twitter's lack of specialized feeds like FriendFeed means my home page would rapidly turn into the noise nightmare that my FB home page currently is. Filtering is key to any such service being usable, and Twitter has no such native feature. Thus, returned follows on Twitter are reserved for people who *really* interest me
- LANjackal
A friend of mine, serial entrepreneur, crack programmer, etc missed the Twitter boat until yesterday when he signed up. I immediately DM'd him to change his avatar away from the default for exactly the reason you stated.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
metagoeff - yeah I would def recommend anyone to do that before they follow anyone. :)
- Mike Bracco
Also people who have no profile or one with no real information in it, don't get followed back by me.
- Todd Brunner
I always wonder why one eye is bigger than the other.
- david
David, I always thought it was two birds on a wire or something, but I could be wrong of course. By now there are actually more actual newbies without an avatar/photo than spammers. The spammers are getting cleverer by the day in terms of creating semi-realistic profiles (including importing tweets from a number of other peeps). Some newbies can benefit from a friendly DM asking them to fill out their profile + photo for better results.
- Alex Schleber
i'm asking primarily because i have questions...but there's no forum really for them on the CulturedCode site. Was wondering whether it would be worth setting up a group for the app - if there are enough users out there
- Zee.
I do, have done for a while. What's up?
- Keith Bennett
although it's probably the best task management app i've come across...I'm confused about things like postponing the date on a task...that doesn't remove it from the "today" list. Why not? And I can click on "not today", that will do it but does that mean it wont appear in my today list ever?
- Zee.
ive got more questions btw, but thats one of them :P
- Zee.
The Today list doesn't have anything to do with due dates. It's just a list of things you'd like to get accomplished today. In other words, the Today list doesn't care which day it is and has no concept of overdue tasks. If you have a due date, or if you'd like to postpone something and have it automatically reappear later, you can change it to a scheduled task which will bump it back into Today on the day you choose. Otherwise, it'll camp out in the Next list.
- Akiva Moskovitz
by the way if you haven't bought a copy yet, give "the hit list" a try... I've used all the GTD-apps out there, but this one is really making your life easier, especially with its unbelievable keyboard shortcuts. You won't regret it. http://www.potionfactory.com/thehitl...
- msevim
Ah i see Akiva, that makes things much clearer! @Chris - thank you, i couldn't find the damn thing.
- Zee.
Yeah, The Hit List is really good too. In fact I use both. One for work, one for private stuff..
- Chris
@muhammetsevim I did actually try thehitlist (and loved it because of the outliner like features) but if there's one thing that nearly every todo list app i've every tried has been missing is reordering of "today's tasks". Things is the only app I've come across that allows for in depth organisation as well as reordering of your today list.
- Zee.
I've been looking at this. Currently using remember the milk. Wondering what the benefits would be of Things over RTM?? Anyone used both?
- Robert DeBord
Yeah, i've used RTM - and frankly my biggest gripe with it was the ordering of lots of lists. I ended up with about half a page of lists before i could reach the actual todo list. I didn't like the fact that there wasn't any manual reordering of tasks either...
- Zee.
Thanks Zee, I can definitely see where that would be a problem. So far I don't have more than a dozen lists, but even that gets a little much.
- Robert DeBord
Also, Things has such an attractive interface, it makes it a pleasure to use. Personally, I can't stand web-based software (which is why I don't use stuff like Gmail or Hiveminder). Give me a nice-looking, fully-featured desktop client that can sync with my phone over anything else any day of the week.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Akiva, for sure, although i wish Things had a better syncing mechanism. Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you spend an hour organising your todo's in the morning...then leave home forgetting to sync it - you're screwed right?
- Zee.
Yeah. That's the one place where OmniFocus wins; it allows you to use WebDAV. I'm hoping that Things allows this in future versions, too. In the meanwhile, I've just trained myself to sync Things when I'm leaving the house and I know I've made changes.
- Akiva Moskovitz
right, yeah - think i'm going to have to learn to do the same
- Zee.
Another idea is to sync immediately after you're done messing with it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
what happens if you make changes on the desktop, forget to sync, make changes on your phone during the day, then come back home and sync?
- Zee.
Things is really smart about merges. I've never had a conflict that didn't work out logically.
- Akiva Moskovitz
things does look as the best desktop app. but.. syncing via web makes much more sense.. I will not (tested and proven :)) will be able to remember doing the sync when i leave.. i keep using RTM just because it's always there for me.. so.. i'll wait to see what they'll do
- Naor Mark
Just started using Things quite heavily. It's been pretty awesome so far.
- Arlan Koizumi
For those of you looking for web-based sync, you should e-mail the developers and let them know. The more they hear about it, the more likely they are to include the feature.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Tried but never got used to it. Mostly because there's no way to use it crossplatform...
- Ralph
i reckon there are enough users here to justify a group, I'd join and prefer interacting with friendfeed than a standard forum
- Franz Sittampalam
just hesitant in case the devs would be against it
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Just an idea: syncing via MobileMe would be just perfect. Like Wallet from Acrylic sw does (unfortunately I cannot use it, since not available in the european app store).
- ialla
I would join a group too. I don't use the desktop app so syncing isn't a bugbear for me but I adore the iPhone app which keeps me sane and involves less time organising and more time doing!
- Nico
great app! I'm still wating for its online version. ;)
- Serkan Unsal
i wish they synced with Remember the Milk
- Ouriel Ohayon
@Ouriel, that would be great although RTM's data model is much simpler (at least it looks so), yet with some smart mapping to lists and tags...(one of these moments i wish i was still coding and could try that :))
- Naor Mark
Used and liked it all though the beta, but moved over to RTM when the product finally launched. I think its WAY too expensive for what it is, especially considering that RTM is just as good and free.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
do RTM fans miss out on an inbox for when they don't have an internet connection? An ideal inbox needs to be omnipotent for me...
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
@shedali It's not a problem for me because I work at home, so I don't spen a lot of time away from my computer. Plus you can tweet tasks to RTM from your phone, so if you can send an SMS you always have an inbox.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Flash is about the only adobe software that I use - I moved to foxit and/or nitro after version 7 of acrobat reader came out
- Chris Heath
What I hate is the fact that when I got CS4, I had to install the useless program that is Bridge! You can't uncheck Bridge unless you also uncheck and don't install Photoshop...grrr
- Mike Bracco
Sharon, looks interesting, will try it later.
- Kol Tregaskes
Sharon, have you received your confirmation email yet? I'm still waiting. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Unfortunately Kol, I'm unable to use this because of my archaic Windows 2000 OS.
- Sharon McPherson
I'm just downloading and trying it. Looks interesting although it requires .NET 3.5 so it will likely be as much of a memory hog as most AIR apps.
- Kenton
tried this today, and my biggest complaint is that it seemed to insist on using IE to open items.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
second complaint was the response time...very slow. - I Did like the RSS feeds in it. but that's not enough to give up my PeopleBrowsr.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Installing now. On the face of it, this looks like exactly what I'm looking for.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Kol: yes I played with it for a while, and didn't see the means to change it (and IE is certainly not my default browser!) Though this app looks like it could be cool, the .NET and Microsoft reliance are not for me. I thought on first run that the interface needed work. I liked the design layout and the multi-network connectivity, but it seemed to have been missing a lot of the features...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
wow that demo is really impressive but from what rob has to say i have to agree that id stick to peoplebrowsr for now. need to read up more on this, looks exciting
- Freddie Benjamin
I retried this app, and it did not use my IE. Very weird. I haven't figured out what makes it use the one browser instead of the other. It was a pretty nice app, but I still think that it needs some work to be ready for the big time. Basicall there's nothing in sobees that's not in PeopleBrowsr BUT it's considerably less complicated than PB's advanced mode. The sobees response time was still not very good on my second run.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
IMO, For more casual users this application may be a nice solution. If you aren't a power-tweeter, and want an integrated "social desktop" application, give this a try. If you're more of a power user I would recommend PeopleBrowsr.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Finally gave PeopleBrowsr a whirl on the strength of Rob's endorsements. Wow. It's TweetDeck done better!
- Kathy Fitch
Kathy: In Lite mode it is exactly that. In Advanced mode, it's a complete "Social Desktop" (And Thanks! )
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Kol - Switched from Sobees to BDule ... Much more stable under Win 7 here
- Charlie Anzman
bdule is only a small part of the sobees application. useful, but not the full experience by any stretch.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Hmm. Guess I am too old to figure out how to make it all work...Seems a bit overwhelming!
- John Apps
The light version is faster, more stable and no log-in necessary
- Charlie Anzman
Tried it for a while, but stopped. I found it way too slow to be useful.
- Kenton
Charlie: When you say light version you mean the bDule version?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
i install this but is giving me an error because it won't start (application say that there is one process that needs to be made...) how can i solve.
- Laurentiu
my suspicion is that you don't have .NET 3.5 properly installed. I've also noticed that exiting the application once running will not necessarily clear all of its processes out of active memory. A false start may leave the partial set running. You may need to use the task manager to end any associated processes (or reboot if that is easier)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Hmm. I must have missed something. I just thought it was weird and incomprehensible.
- Leo Laporte
Leo - Did you like Blue Velvet or Wild at Heart? some people just plain don't like David Lynch. And I found Mulholland Drive to be weird and incomprehensible as well, but brilliant.
- Tad
I liked Blue Velvet a lot. Twin Peaks, too. Mullholland Drive is much less coherent than his earlier stuf.
- Leo Laporte
I saw Blue Velvet at too early an age. :(
- Derrick
Anthony. What makes this movie brilliant? I use the term movie loosely because it was originally a pilot for ABC which is one of the reasons it's narrative is horribly incomplete.
- Gregg Scott
The scene I just posted is absolutely brilliant.
- Tad
Leo, just wait until you see INLAND EMPIRE. Mulholland Drive is like the most coherent movie ever made in comparison. :) MD is actually very coherent, you just have to watch it two or three times first.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Apparently Leo's never seen Eraserhead. Or Lost Highway. Both make Mulholland Drive look like There's Something About Mary.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Watching Eraserhead is like having your brain pulled inside out and then set on fire.
- Tad
I think Eraserhead and Wild at Heart are the only two Lynch films I've never seen. Oh, and Fire Walk With Me.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Jandy - you totally need to get with the Wild at Heart. wow - Can't be a Lynch fan if you haven't seen that!
- Tad
It's on my DVR, actually, unless it deleted it. *checks* Nope, still have it. Ooh, also have Diary of a Chambermaid, which is Bunuel, so it's probably trippy. And Blowup, which is at least mod London... I should watch some of these.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Dunno about that, Tad. Wild at Heart is, by far, my least favorite Lynch movie. It's the closest he ever gets to losing it and going straight into accidental self-parody.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I've seen them all and am a big Lynch fan. @Gregg - at a very high level I found the multi-layered storyline brilliant (while challenging), esp. with regard to human delusion and fantasy; I found the film's visual landscape incredible; and there are countless moments in the film that are touching in some way (sometimes more than one way.).
- Anthony Citrano
also called, "backstabbing prop8 protesters vs. little tiny old people"
- Noah David Simon
Gregg, yeah, it's incomplete - you're right, when you know the history of it as a TV pilot, you can see those seams, but even in general it's incomplete because it's a dreamscape. I've never had a dream that was complete. Not everything ties up absolutely, but that's okay...it doesn't have to. It works thematically and emotionally.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
the best part about this movie is in the end the little tiny old people bring the lesbians to hell. am I wrong here?
- Noah David Simon
elaborate. I see the little tiny old people punish the backstabbing lesbians. maybe you got lost in the metaphor but I'd say it's a pretty right wing take on gay relationships. those big city LA people punished by humble old conservatives and their family values. not exactly flattering for the Janeane Garofalo set. by the way Swine Flu? http://ff.im/1hqgl
- Noah David Simon
It would have made agreat TV series but as it is, it's still my favourite Lynch film. And I'm a big fan. If you want incomprehensible check out Inland Empire, which is amazing but probably not for everyone.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
I get that you ass kissers like the movie... but don't you think about what it is about? what are you afraid of? there is a message here and I don't hear any of you saying anything beyond "surreal".
- Noah David Simon
Mulholland Drive is my second favorite David Lynch film (Lost Highway is my favorite). Naomi Watts performance in MD blows me away. I haven't been able to get through Inland Empire though.
- jbrotherlove
@Noah There are no messages in Lynch films. They are just surreal journies that leave you wondering. Some of us like that kinda stuff.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
@Noah, the message is that Hollywood is a soul-sucking hell of a place that offers you dreams and gives you nightmares. If there is a message.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
and what was the lifestyle reflected in the movie Jandy? were they Muslim Conservatives? there was meaning here. you just don't want acknowledge it. the fact that it was chosen to reflect a Hollywood Gay relationship was no coincidence. keep in mind the context of when the movie was made!!! when Ellen Degeneres relationship was a media story. Todd. you are very wrong. I assure you the reason you like it is because it is able to say things you know, but are afraid to articulate
- Noah David Simon
For a minute I was wondering WTF is Noah, then I realized it's the Noah I blocked a long time ago.
- Anthony Citrano
I know it is hard to think Citrano. but I'm asking about the movie... not your attempt to libel me. what is the meaning of the movie? is the context of the people of any implication? I refuse to buy that you people are looking for a meaningless film. and btw... sometimes writers articulate feelings subconsciously as well. subconscious is still within context. also the fact that the...
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- Noah David Simon
within the context of this thread your hostility is a smoke screen, that is also obvious. yes... we all know you don't like to debate... forget the gay issue. in the story written: can we agree that someone because of the choices they made, ended up badly based on the writer's intent? or is that not arbitrary enough for you? you can argue that maybe the criticism was not her lifestyle,...
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- Noah David Simon
I'm not understanding Noah's point. are you suggesting that Lynch is homophobic in some way or wants us to believe lesbians & gays should be punished?
- jbrotherlove
I'm saying that many great writers and stories reflect bigotry and bias. it has no effect on the value of the media. there is obviously a criticism of a lifestyle in this movie. are we saying that gay people could not possibly collectively reflect a narrative? is this not what writing is all about. to create a reflective context. I refuse to see this movie as arbitrary
- Noah David Simon
I don't think anyone would doubt "many great writers and stories reflect bigotry and bias". it's how you are applying that idea to Mulholland Drive and Davind Lynch that doesn't compute.
- jbrotherlove
the woman's desire is to take part in a gay relationship and a Hollywood dream. instead of recieving her dream she is punished by the narrative. you say it doesn't "compute" but you don't elaborate. I didn't write the story. I believe the details of the woman's life are related to her outcome
- Noah David Simon
@jb i think you're feeding the troll, as they say.
- Anthony Citrano
I didn't get any statement from the narrative of a meaningless nature of the plot. Anthony Tu Quoque. You are the troll because you give nothing. I'm sharing my thoughts. this is sad. I didn't write the movie. I'm just articulating the plot. I'm still waiting for an alternative explanation as to why the woman's explicit lifestyle was such a large part of the film.
- Noah David Simon
jbrotherlove, you are spot on. any attempt to review this film as anything other than a semi-surreal Lynch romp is misguided. And I find the attempted pointer towards homophobia laughable at best.
- Cathy Brooks
from twhirl
@Anthony well I saw a lot of words but didn't get where he was going with them. and since Lynch is one of my favorite writer/directors, I was curious. btw, I'm no longer curious.
- jbrotherlove
Michel Foucault kiss my ass! surreal? that implies a subconscious to objectify! what are you afraid of @Cathy Brooks? this is the problem with academia these days. Analysis Paranoid! I'm still waiting for an alternative explanation as to why the woman's lifestyle took such priority in the story. sexy? yes.... but the implications of narrative cause and effect are glaring. also the...
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- Noah David Simon
the old people are indeed punishing the main characters. there is a definitive plot. why must people abuse the word "trippy" or "surreal". as if something complex had no context.
- ❁ⓟⓘⓝⓚ❁ⓖⓐⓡⓓⓔⓝ❁
cowards are afraid to look into their subconscious. this film indeed had a plot and an intent. the outcome and resolve is meant to reflect an existential truth. it isn't that it is beyond comprehension it is just that the collective will around friendfeed is afraid of their own minds. indeed the backstabbing lesbians are punished by the heterosexual older couple! libidinal desire led them down a dark path. couldn't be more conservative a concept
- Noah David Simon
why is it when people around here block they always have to proclaim it to the world?
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passivity phobic? your elders in a paradoxical cycle will bring you down
- Noah David Simon
The thing with her is I find her crass and vulgar as soon as she opens her mouth, and it would the same could be said of me I said that I only find her attractive when she is not speaking
- RAPatton
I don't really know who she is either, but they talk about her a great deal in the british papers. I think she is on the original American Idol in the UK
- RAPatton
wow, she's 13 years younger than her bf
- anna sauce
She says, "I'm not the marrying type" Sure, who is at 22?
- Jess
she has a very long torso- not bad looking, but on a short person, kind of odd
- anna sauce
She's a member of the band Girls Aloud, who are awesome.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
@anna That's like saying you wouldn't date the handsome and successful guy because he wore the wrong shoes. Seriously, every single guy on the planet would get with her as would 90% of taken ones.
- Ben Parr
yeah, seriously Anna...you're on another planet
- Zee.
I think she's actually American, not Australian as the article says...
- Charlotte M
Patricia, that is Megan Fox from Jonah Hex and Transformers
- RAPatton
Oh ew. I don't like her at all. Though I'd be happy to be as attractive as she is, she looks average to me for how "hot' the media tries to portray her - I think it's all spin, angling by her PR and what not
- Patricia
@Anna -- My wife is half my age...is that not good in your book? Just curious...neither of us object to it.
- Douglas Hopkins
The neat thing about Megan Fox though, is that crazy up close HD slow motion shot of her face being panned around in Transformers, and you could see she actually has pores, acne scars, and some oil. I can't believe she agreed to that shot.
- Matthew DeVries
@patricia I think I like her for that reason! I don't know if I'd say average, but she seems more human...with real body proportions. Unlike the surreal look of models like Gisele Bündchen, Naomi Campbell or Daniela Pastova.
- Jess
To all my naysayers- it's the diff. between being attracted to her, and not. As someone who is not, I notice weird things like long torso... I could point to a hot guy and you would be like "his hair looks slimy" etc.
- anna sauce
Why would I not use facebook? Of all the websites it's the one with the most real life friends, genuine friends who I've had drinks with, barbecues and more. I know a lot more about the people on FB than any other social network out there.
- Richard A.
Easily, it's giving up Twitter that's the challenge :)
- MiaD
What makes them even stronger is that I've known these people for years. And my friends know them too. It's got many more connections.
- Richard A.
Twitter is for the older generations. Younger generations already have more easily accessible solutions.
- Richard A.
"Over the weekend, SeesmicSeesmic reviewsSeesmic reviews announced their own desktop application for Facebook, as well as plans to integrate Status Updates into their own TwitterTwitter reviewsTwitter reviews client - TwhirlTwhirl reviewsTwhirl reviews. Today, popular Twitter client TweetDeckTweetDeck reviewsTweetDeck reviews is beginning testing on a new version of its software that includes integration with Facebook as well. In a blog post, TweetDeck describes the functionality offered in what for now is an optional test version of the software: “You can click on the Facebook icon at the top and, once you have signed into Facebook and given TweetDeck authorization, this will add a new column full of each of your friends most recent status update which updates automatically once a minute.""
- Amani
Friendfeed indeed. Facebook is not a network, it is a way of life. If I want that way of life, I'll go there. Microblogging apps need to fit into YOUR life. It seems that no one other than Twhirl understands the importance of other networks. This is just a bandwagon jump on the part od tweetdeck. Pah!
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
above shows us how much variance there is in the term "cup"... generally a "cup" of coffee is supposed to be 6-8 oz. I probably consume 20 ounces or so in a day (at most)
- Anthony Citrano
Usually 1-3 triple shots a day (which I guess equates to 3-9 cups?). BTW, Robert Hafer should have signed an endorsement deal with Folgers...15-20 cups/day?! That's impressive.
- Thomas Tracey
I usually have a mug of about 10 oz for a cup
- Robert Hafer
I try to limit it to 2. End up with 3 or 4. I used to be up to 7 to 8.
- Helen Sventitsky
I drink about 12 cups (as in the measurement) of espresso ground, dark Sumatran in a 24hr period. Some is drip made, some is espresso machine made. I'm a freak.
- Michael W. May
Usually 2 espresso shots and 2 cups of the dark roast at the local coffee stand. Not nearly as bad as I used to be.
- matthew john ernisse
Couple of espressos - maybe a coffee here and there.
- Mattb4rd
About 8 to 10 cups a day. Just regular fresh ground coffee, that I , or my wife, makes ourselves. A dash of milk, no sugar. None of that expensive fancy stuff.
- Ian May
allot, like a pot a day (a pot is what 12 cups?)
- chaz2b
I have one coffee drinker: my wife, and that's enough for me ;)
- Jemm
2-4 cups every morning before I leave the house for work. No more. No less. LOL
- Sean
2 cups every morning and on very rare occasions a coffee in the early afternoon. When the in-laws visit we have decaf after dinner.
- Heather Solos
I have an obsession with my Keurig KCup brewer and will have a minimum of 2 8 oz. cups each work day. When I'm more tired, cold, or enjoying a particularly good coffee blend I'll drink more.
- Sally: ice cube
3 in the morning; maybe another 1 or 2 in the afternoon, but not always; sometimes a decaf in the evening.
- Steve Lowe
Three not really big mugs. I really need the caffeine. Might be a little bad...
- Meryn Stol
I have 2 cups at home and if I have time I stop for a 3rd on the way to work. If not, I will sometimes have a 3rd midmorning if someone is going to Stabucks
- Alan Simpson
It depends on the kind of day I'm having. At work I will tend to have anywhere from two to five cups in the morning and at least one more cup post-lunch. I would say 90% of the time it's just two cups in the morning, one in the afternoon. On my days off, I don't usually have more than whatever my French press can make.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I don't drink coffee because I don't like having it, may be I am the wrong one to comment here !
- Jayavasanthan J
IM FINE I CAN STOP ANY TIME I LIKE THERES NO PROBLEM HERE
- Mistletoe Glen
1. The coffee at work is like gasoline. I hate it but it keeps me to one a day which I think is good.
- Nurse Katie
one to two pots - black only, dark roast preferred
- Janet
I'm starting to wonder if FF users have a propensity to drink large amounts of coffee.
- Thomas Tracey
Usually 2 Starbucks medium extra shot cappocinos.
- Roberto Bonini
around 10 cups give or take, starting early in the evening if I have some thing to do. 3 or 4 cups if I am hanging out at home or kicking back with friends
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
It's 3am, has anyone seen my ZZZZZZZZs? I blame coffee.
- Carolyn Chan
Increases with my stress level. These days only 1-2 cups (very relaxed) of strong, black coffee: never ruin good coffee with sugar or milk
- Kristine Lowe
I think Leo Laporte would have a major problem with them being called Twits. :D
- MarkCarras
What makes them think they are "pro". Are they getting paid for tweeting? Are they sponsored like pro atheletes? Does it affect the eligability in the tweetlympics?
- KyleHase
from twhirl
That's hilarious! Reminds me of ppl who put "Java: 5 years of experience" on their CV when Java was only a public language for 3.
- Kevin Elliott
A profession usually nets one some sort of financial compensation. Who's paying these "professional tweeters' for all of their time spent tweeting?
- Jeff P. Henderson
I need some names and output to judge what they're up to. I might be interested in supplementing my income :)
- WorldofHiglet
Whatever happened to all the Professional Friendsters?
- James
And I appreciate that "meeting the dictionary definition" is short-sighted, but the point is, how do they do it as a job? How do they make a living out of it? Assuming they mean that they're "experts", then who defines the criteria of "expert tweeter"? Crazyness.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
with the influx of celebrities into twitter, it was only a matter of time before people started taking advantage of the situation. These celebrities are probably more than willing to shell out a few dollars for individuals who can manage their twitter accounts for them. More importantly, I wonder how much longer before the lawsuits start over misuse of someone's name or persona.
- Bob Blunk
@Bob Blunk: Sure, I hadn't thought of people *employing* people to Twitter on their behalf. Strange world we live in.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
and you people complain about a little chapstick and lips every now and again. sheesh. I'd much rather see chapstick and lips any day of the week over getting a "crush jason alexmi" request or getting *two* sammy is sexy requests in the same day!
- Thomas Hawk
no doubt. i'm always blocking apps. i don't want play around with hatchlings or pieces of flair or get involved in any dang food fights.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
That right there is the biggest reason I can't stand Facebook and I would dump it in a heartbeat if it didn't mean that all of my family and distant friends would instantly have a shitfit.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Also - Facebook = "Real life Friends". If you only friend people you're actually friends with it's actually a terrific application for keeping in touch. If you try to treat it like a Friendfeed/Twitter/MySpace then you wind up with a load of crap and its utility takes a nose dive.
- Eric P
thankfully i've avoided this kind of garbage
- chrisofspades
I block just about every app invite I get. I'm glad some people like it, but I despise ANY application, social network, or whatever that the second step in adding the app is to SPAM all of my friends with it. This is a terrible process and needs to be done away with.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I didn't add them. They are invitations.
- Thomas Hawk
Totally agree with you. couldn't have said it better.
- Karoli
Sean hit it perfectly. It's why I use Facebook as nothing more than an address book for people from my past. That has always made me sick, screen 2 is "Tell me who to spam!"
- Matthew DeVries
@Haggis: Agreed. And I too block pretty much every app invite I get. The irritating part is when someone gets all uppity with me because I didn't return their snowball or superpoke them back. I'm like...srsly? You send me that ridiculous crap and then have the nerve to get mad at ME for not participating?
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I am blocking most apps, because things can get outta hand ...
- Rene Wirtz
@Amanda: I tell/have told all my friends that they can send those requests, but that I categorically deny all of them. It's surprising how that already decreases the number of requests.
- Rene Wirtz
I do get tired of all that crap. My bro sent me a video to watch on Farcebook a few days ago, but to see it I would have to download yet another silly wall. I don't need more than one, nor do I need to install multiple calendars so you can see when my birthday is. Go to my profile.
- Ian May
For every app invite i block, i seem to get twice as many the following day. Its better now their not all over people profiles pages when they do get added though.
- Simon Wicks
Thomas - I think you're really gettign confused between Facebook and these leeches trying to suck off the Facebook platform. Just ignore them and these requests would never appear. Or better yet - DEfriend anyone who would be so stupid as to include you on a list of requests. JUST DUMP THEM - and everything will be fine.
- Marc Canter
But seriously...you really should accept my Pirates vs. Ninjas request.
- Adam
Yep. I put a moratorium on adding apps and made that abundantly clear, but I still get all the cr@p.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
this is just one example of the silliness and boring nature of facebook. Frankly it's just not engaging. There's so much wrong with it and this is just the start. FriendFeed is a far superior platform for probably 100 different reasons.
- Thomas Hawk
I have found that blocking invites from certain users and applications is very helpful.
- Adam
@Thomas I agree with you 100%. I think FB is near unusable.. You're right it's not engaging - it's more of a distraction and there's very little value proposition for me to connect with people. I get the same with email/IM/flickr.. FF is far superior in my estimation
- andy brudtkuhl
that's just crazy! insane! crazy?...insane?
- .LAG liked that
Holy crap and I cry when I see 3 of them on my bar.
- Admiral Anika
Just looked at this and confirmed that I have no interest in joining Facebook.
- TranceMist
I'm not a fan of the tons of virtual goods and apps either, but I've got tons of friends who would qualify as "normal people" and cannot imagine living without FB. It's a rich way for them to keep in touch with people. I like FF a bunch but I also recognize the bandwagon effect that exists with FB.
- Cecyl Hobbs
@Morton Fox: I do the same. Problem is that you have to opt out of each crappy app that anyone you know has managed to dig up. If you don't log in often and deal with these head-on, the simple act of opting out can be daunting.
- Keith McCammon
It's striking how many people hate Facebook who nevertheless for various reasons feel unable to abandon it -- not so much a virus as a fungus. It's depressing to think that due to network lock-in my daughter may be stuck on it for years to come.
- Tim Ostler
something will come along to replace it. it's the inevitability of things.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I don't get why people who don't like apps don't block them all, or why people who do like them feel the need to send invites to everyone, let alone whine that you haven't accepted. Most apps I use have a button that shows your friends with the app, and I only send to those.
- Alix Whitmire
@Keith IIRC there's a greasemonkey script that lets you block them all at once.
- Alix Whitmire
Yep. Stuff like that's why I get the heebie jeebies about 5-10 mins after logging into Facebook.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Ahhhhhh, the voice of reason! I'm so glad I'm not alone.
- Rob Fahrni
aw man, what happened to the flickr image?
- Kamilah Gill
yep, I just IGNORE these types of apps/notifications- I have SO many sent to me and I would literally need to quite my job to attend to them full-time. It's insane. I think 95% of them are a waste of time imho... there are always going to be those people who love to do the spamming but it doesn't mean you need to pay attention to them :) One part of FB that I also do not love.
- Deanna Belle Govoni
This is one of the big reasons why I try and limit friends to people I know in person, and a few others who I can trust to not act like invite-wielding idiots.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Why would you blame facebook for you having idiot friends?
- Richard Lawler
Who ever said Facebook is cool? It's a rambling mess suitable only for people with lots of spare time and nothing else to do with it.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
shit like that is what makes me hate FB. they need an option saying "please auto ignore all invites from everyone". i used to have a greasemonkey script which did it, but the bloody things are getting smarter
- Terry O'Fee
Richard: Who said I have idiot friends? Intelligence has nothing to do with people trying to share their fave FB apps with everyone else, especially before Facebook put in limitations to keep apps from spamming their users' friends.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Thing is, once burned, twice shy. So only people I can trust to not send me lots of invites get to be friended to me on Facebook.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
it's just some people. i know great people who forward every single email online. there's one person, ive given her an old yahoo email adress so i dont hurt her feelings :P
- Terry O'Fee
Smart people catch on to spamming apps quickly, they recognize when they've been spammed, instead of signing up and passing them along, or continuing to request you join (insert game of the week.) If your friends can't figure out what's annoying to you, how can you expect Facebook to?
- Richard Lawler
immediately block app requests as they come in! according to the picture there were not so many apps involved here, but blocking them from the beginning on spares you more invitations..
- Johannan Edelman
I thought my FaceBook was bad when requests piled up, but you definitely win! I don't feel quite so irritated about it, now ;o)
- Seth Greenblatt
Yeah, that's one thing I hate about FB, those cutesy apps. I almost never participate in that...
- Rick Cogley
Just say no to 99.9% of all facebook apps and your problems are solved... :)
- Walt Ruppar
Some of my friends are so annoying on FB that I have to permanently block all invites from them. Bloody Blood-sucking-vampire-stricken-greek-godish-monsters.
- Aman
@Chris: Indeed it is sad. I am in the process of forming a group called "People who hate people".
- Aman
WOAH! You know, I think it is funny, I removed ALL my apps the other day, AND told all my friends that I removed my apps, and they are STILL sending me app invites. If you keep up on it, it's fine. If you don't, it looks like this... /sigh
- Danielle Closs
But FB is still better than the Google counterpart - Orkut. The sleaziest Social Website of all times. Their tag line : "Its so easy to get molested online, let us make it easier for you".
- Aman
Some apps are good but most are just spam. Good apps are hard to find but there are a few nice ones out there, I like the ff app and the twitter app. I also use the slayers app and the compare people app. I'm a little shallow.
- Wesley Robin Guerrero
I hate the updates that I don't need. A large number of apps are useless.
- Palak Mathur
if your notification board looks like this, you just seem to agree to all those useless "send xyz a flower/pet/other crap"-applications. ignore those and you'll have your personal internet-operating system based on your friends and your life
- natadd
from twhirl
Mine looks almost as bad as that and I only have 8 friends (real life friends & family)
- April Russo (app103)
Thanks for the pic Thomas, you've reaffirmed my decision to ignore all the app requests I get from friends with too much time on their hands.
- pitlord
from twhirl
I like FF for commenting on stories and seeing a discussion. I like FB for smaller discussions. FF bigest minus for me is the lack of a notification if someone specifically responds to me.
- ChiliMac
That's a big list... I'm getting tired of hitting the ignore as well.
- Gary Gifford Jr
Believe me, even a good confrontation with those slimy friends does do any good. They keep sending invites even after that.
- Aman
I'd be a rich man if if I got a penny for everytime I click ignore. I'm just not making that much use out Facebook nowadays! That's why I decided to give FriendFeed a test trial.
- Vincent Nguyen
This is why they made the block function, I've blocked over 500 applications and I don't get many requests anymore. I promise, it works.
- Aaron Myers
It looks like facebook just threw up on your screen, IGNORE ALL!! And back away slooowly...
- Peter To
I don't get it. I have 600+ friends on FB (not crazy huge, but not an insubstantial number). About once a week, I do a combo of ignore-app's and ignore-all-apps from a few friends, and voila! In about 1-2 minutes, I'm all set. 1-2 minutes a week. How many friends do you have on FB, Thomas? And how many years has it been since you've cleared things out? While I think FB shares some of the blame, is this situation any different than not cleaning *anything else* out once in a while?
- Adam Lasnik
I use Remember the Milk. Not that I'm helping at all.
- Araceli
Have not used either one. I use Omni Focus. Things seems to me a polished version of that. If you have used Omni Focus and liked it then you may like Things.
- walterh
I tried Things, but didn't like that it resides just on my Mac. RememberTheMilk is online and supports adding tasks via Twitter. If the tool isn't easy and convenient, you're not going to use it. RememberTheMilk wins on both counts.
- Brian Shoemaker
I’ve used both but I prefer Things. RTM is better for integrating into things like google calendar, etc, but I like Things for the interface (shortcut keys, tag filtering, etc.)
- FiZ
from Nambu
Remember the milk has tag filtering (smart lists) and shortcut keys
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Hmm I have to try it out, I have been using RTM
- Fee501st
I use Toodledo thru Todo iPhone app which can also do RTM. As it's on back end, doesn't matter which I use.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
Things is good, but overpriced for what it is. Stick with RTM.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
I use rememberthemilk and I am hapyy with how this works
- Alberto Gómez
As Things is Mac only - and I'm cross-platform, I have to stick to RTM. I still think it's good and don't see anything out there to better it
- Stuart Webb
I forgot to mention Toodledo publishes to various formats including iCal. Too bad Google Sync server doesn't seem to support vTODO objects.
- Paul Reynolds
I use Protopage. I create tabs for different projects and each of those tabs have their to-do lists, sticky notes and related bookmarks. I keep one master page for my every day to-do's and what not.
- ChiliMac
I started using the GMail's task features... suited me fine for a while. I just shifted to doing all that offline on Microsoft's OneNote
- Siddharth Mitra
When I would search for things, FF posts from the History of Blogging profile would always turn up in my results. I joined so I could follow that profile, and hated it for the first month or so.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Someone I had met once at a conference and followed on Twitter talked about it there. He has since canceled both his Twitter and FriendFeed accounts
- Alan Simpson
Probably other twitter peeps. I resisted for many months though since I was happy with my lifestreaming solution. I gave in and was pleasantly surprised with the community
- Rodfather
Got a new BB Curve and started searching for social media sites out there.
- Nurse Katie
A friend suggested FF to me as the better option when I queried him on how he liked Pownce (obviously it was good that I came here instead of going there!)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
My brother, Robert. Maybe you've heard of him? Hehe.
- Alex Scoble
Katie got me hooked! She introduced me to Twitter too! In fact I think it is pretty much ALL Katie's fault that I have become such an internet whore and am no longer productive at work!! It ain't my fault! LOL!!
- Meredith
Scoble Tweeted about a conversation he had going on here which I joined. I blogged about it right away at http://www.growmap.com/robert-... and have been promoting FF ever since. I'm still waiting for you all to add your FriendFeed Friends Lists at http://www.growmap.com/friendf... - that post gets promoted every time someone asks about FriendFeed and provides dofollow links back to your site.
- Internet Strategist
Still finding my way around...but then, I'm still a novice to this sort of thing
- Terry Jones
Via facebook, before I found twitter, but only now learning the value of FF
- Yant
Can't really remember, but Scoble inspired me to pick it up and use it more.
- frank barry
It must have been a blog somewhere I don't remember precisely but for the first eight months or so I used it nearly exclusively for its private rooms where I set up different feeds
- M F
I found it quite entertaining and full of verve.
- Morgan Haley
TC blog post (can't believe I'm the only one), but I still wasn't interested. With the release of the real-time feature, I bookmarked it. When time allowed, I registered. Finally, I started using it a couple months ago.
- coldbrew
via netvibes (one of the feeds on my tech news tabs) then bookmarked it on del.icio.us .... to rediscover it months later
- travel20
FF user Nine invited me last summer. As someone who likes to register at new sites, and who would follow Nine just about anywhere (except into the bathroom), I signed up immediately. Took me a bit longer to start actively using FF, though.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
Dave Winer blogged about it being better than Twitter
- Tim Ostler
Rafe Needleman & Dan Farber did a video about it for Webware
- Marcus Beagley
personal friend (nice robot) turned me on
- Kelly W.
I saw people talking about it on Pownce. At first I thought the idea was totally obnoxious. That I would want to re-add friends all over again in an effort to aggregate my social networks was just too burdensome. I was convinced that socialthing would be a more enjoyable experience. And as is usually the case, I was very wrong. :)
- Andrew
And is that "nice robot" cheaper than a Roomba, cause it could make a killing on the singles scene at bars.
- Steve C
Lisa L. Seifert invited me. I used it as an aggregator and fed it into GReader for months. Then I kept seeing interesting conversations on Lisa's feed and got sucked in. DYLS!
- Jeanine W.
I found it a while back and never really used it, got back into it when I saw Mona start getting into it.
- Andrew Trinh
...blurb about it in one of my RSS feeds; have been addicted ever since.
- JA Castillo
Louis Gray and Robert Scoble raved about it on Twitter so I came and never left
- Sally Church
Related to one of the founders through marriage. ; ) @Steve: Going for the all-time comment record, eh?
- Michael Scarpelli
It was mentioned as a good Facebook app when I said the FeedHeads app was the best in a comment back in October of 2007. See it here: http://scobleizer.com/2007...
- Louis Gray
Jessie's is a repeat, her brother also made me do it. He's a pusher.
- Steve C
they threw me off twitter and I needed a way to make sure people weren't libeling me. I looked for an aternative. Plurk sucked... so...
- Noah David Simon
Chris Brogan told me about it on Twitter, when I was looking for a life streaming service that could support everything and consolidate all my activities into a single feed.
- April Russo (app103)
Appeared in a feed I monitored as part of my coverage for Lifestream Blog. Don't remember exactly from where though.
- Mark Krynsky
Bret & Jim showed it me an early version of FF on an iPhone in a coffee shop in Cupertino in the fall of 2007.
- Jess Lee
Recommendation from a friend and social-media guru.
- Kol Tregaskes
+1 Michael, Steve's such a comment whore....must be rooted from him not being Norine's favorite.....
- Kelly
Can't remember, word if (social media) mouth. Probably Scoble, Arrington, Loic or Duncan Riley.
- jjprojects
Scoble mentioned it on Twitter or his blog. Loved FriendFeed's freer form and threading. Nambu for iPhone recently cinched it.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
Jerome Flipos made me crack up, and yes Michael & Kelly everything I do is a desperate failed attempt to win the blessing of my mother in law.
- Steve C
I'm just jealous that this is more comments than all my posts will ever get combined. : (
- Michael Scarpelli
@Michael, at least you have the love of our shared mother in law to comfort you while I wallow in tears in my pile of comments knowing that magic still eludes me.
- Steve C
is okay, sometimes good, sometimes so so, and at other times great! but really it's the shit
- sofarsoShawn
I don't remember "forcing" anyone to join, but aren't you glad you did anyways?
- Jim Norris
@ Jim I was drunk and don't remember clearly I could have sworn there was a gun involved i'll ask Drunk Norine and Drunk Pam for confirmation.
- Steve C
the need for a second feed that I couldn't get thrown off of. I joined every social net out there. my plan was to run feeds into all of them through hacking twitterfeed. this ended up being unneeded because someone created ping.fm and hello.txt. my guess was that I would need as many social nets as possible because I wasn't going to play nice. I knew that from the get go. it became more...
more...
- Noah David Simon
I gave birth to one of the founders.
- Sheila Taylor
Sheila - I presume some other stuff happened between the birth and the founding though? ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
Sheila - serious comeback! Isn't that the best way to find FF? :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Saw it mentioned on Mashable in a sentence saying something about "DeviantArt is the FriendFeed of" something that I can't recall now. And I was like, What's FriendFeed? The rest, history.
- Kamilah Gill
I think this is hysterical too. There really is an app for everything. Now, if someone could get this going in real life (other than earplugs.)
- Martha
If you turn it on, you'll lose 99% of the Internet.
- l0ckergn0me
I tried it but then I couldn't see my comments at all... I wonder why.
- Jemm
"KeepHD is a sweet tool that lets you download HD videos off Youtube! Not only can you download HD copies of your movies, you can also download the mobile 3GP version for your mobile devices plus the standard MP4 and FLV format. Just enter your Youtube video URL below, and KeepHD will automatically grab each version of the video you want to download."
- Seth Greenblatt
from Bookmarklet
I like tweetdeck for monitoring multiple streams but everything is too big, requires so much space. twhirl is a little rough around the edges but everything works the way it should. url shortening plus analytics API key and access to multiple twitter accounts + friendfeed + laconica + seesmic + ping.fm? Wow. Twhirl has the upper hand.
- Glenn Batuyong
Glenn, the observation I made in the post: as a Twitter client, Tweetdeck rocks, but for multiple service support, no contest it's Twhirl. I'm running Tweetdeck now, but I may switch back. It's really a hard call
- Duncan Riley
until Tweetdeck can let you change the font size it is a no go plus I don't know why but AIR apps for Twitter all want to open links as a text file in notepad - that makes no sense
- Steven Hodson
I prefer the Tweetdeck interface but use Twhirl because of support for multiple Twitter accounts, FriendFeed, etc.
- Herb Hernandez
Steven, Im a reformed Windows user as you know, but I'd guess there's a file association issue somewhere in the Windows settings. You should be able to tell we it opens somewhere there
- Duncan Riley
very weird .. for the past while I have had the link problem but now I just tested with both again and it works fine <shrug>
- Steven Hodson
I have used both and I have switched to TweerDeck full time
- Rob Cairns
Duncan, I've gone back and forth forever for some of the same reasons. I'm pretty sure I'm staying with Tweetdeck this time (each time it grows on me a bit more). FF on Twhirl kinda sucks, and I'm not using Seesmic at all these days, so the multi-service utility just evaporated over time.
- Jennifer Van Grove
Jennifer, my issue as well. I'm not using the sub-services on Twhirl, particulary not FF because it does suck in Twhirl. Still, I'd like multi-account and Ping.fm support in Tweetdeck, what make it a killer.
- Duncan Riley
The last time I used twhirl it didn't support groups. Until it does I'll continue to use Tweetdeck.
- Keith - @tsudo
Louis, I think it's ahead as a Twitter client, but it misses stuff. Like play a sound on a @reply or DM only. Or simply an archive option. But in everything else directly Twitter related, yes. cleaner, more friendly. If I wanted something more, Twhirl still wins.Reality is besides multiple account support, I didn't use Twhirl for other services (I had them there, but didn't actually use them)
- Duncan Riley
Having used Twhirl for some time, I found Tweetdeck to be a breath of fresh air, as it makes it easier to track different conversations. I don't feel the need to aggregate everything into one app either, especially if separate apps serve my needs better.
- Sam
i'm with tweetdeck. it's changed how i use twitter and has made it a lot easier to scan
- Snipergirl
from Alert Thingy
i like tweetdeck but it takes too much estate. i would love twhirl adding groups and different window colours for groups/search/account
- Ouriel Ohayon
Hate way Twhirl scrolls one story at a time rather than smoothly - makes it unusable on small screens because you can't ever read the whole entry!
- Rich
DestroyTwitter: more compact than TweetDeck, less annoying interface than Twhirl.
- Ian Betteridge
DestroyTwitter can put lots of information in its clean interface without looking cluttered, I like Tweetdeck but it only shows a few tweets at the same time
- João Almeida
I use both! Tweetdeck for catchup first thing in the morning using the groups (pals group for instance), and then twhirl thereafter during day. Tweetdeck hogs a fair of memory I found out to my cost.
- bairnpunter
from twhirl
i use neither - i use the twitter.com site
- Allen Stern
DestroyTwitter is brilliant, and gets better with every update. A very nice clean interface.
- Chris Nixon
I love TweetDeck, but I'd love it even more if I could have columns stacked on top of each other, as well as miniaturizing columns temporarily (instead of having to delete and later recreate them).
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I'm stuck with twirl because it supports multiple accounts and that's the only reason. If I had my druthers, and it added a few features, I'd use twitterific, or destroy twitter if they supported multiple accounts.
- Rick Powell
Tweetdeck is unbeatable when your monitoring evens like the plane crash yesterday, but for casual tweet monitoring, and tweeting.. Twhirl is hard to beat. And I just figured out that you can change the theme of twhirl to black as well. Only thing I don't like about tweetdeck is how it's capable of slowing down my brand new macbook pro, withs 2 gigs of memory. If that wasn't an issue, I'd be running it constantly and not switching between Twhirl and Twitterific
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
I love tweetdeck, mostly for the grouping and column layout, but have been making an effort to use the new twhirl so i can get integration into FF,Linkedin and FB (via ping.fm). If only tweetdeck would have that integration i would stick with that..
- John McBride
from twhirl
Anybody using the destroy twitter app? Do you like it?
- John McBride
from twhirl
While I have a spare monitor (actually, a spare laptop) available I'll be using TweetDeck. But if screen estate is ever an issue, I'd switch to Twhirl.
- Jalada
I like DestroyTwitter because it's very clean and reliable. I had lots of trouble with Twhirl here at work. I also really like the "away" button, which makes it easier to see what's happened when I go away from my desk for a while. Also, DT is very customizable, allowing for either a "wide" view or standard narrow view, and the popup notifications are very nice.
- Alex Conner
I'm with Tweetdeck. What will really be amazing is Tweetdeck as an iPhone app ---- AND, if that syncs lists with the desktop Tweetdeck.
- Sonya Smith
What turned me off about Tweetdeck: no keyboard shortcuts.
- Sean McBride
I just started using both Tweetdeck and Twhirl, and both have advantages and disadvantages. I use the former for its groups and to check my replies. The latter posts to http://ping.fm/ and allows me to follow FriendFeed. Before this I was using TwitterFox which I just found irritating. In my browser I use, TwitBar, PowerTwitter and TwitKit. @seanmcbride the keyboard shortcuts in Twhirl are nowhere near complete, but these are an advantage over Tweetdeck. Running both = running into the API rate limiting.
- Daniel W. Crompton
I have an example of how I monitor one corporate Twitter account and handle other info using both Twhirl and TweetDeck. http://www.flickr.com/photos... (with notes)
- Glenn Batuyong
I just discovered the first issue with both, memory leaks. They have been running for a couple of days each and are both over 300Mb. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
- Daniel W. Crompton
@Jeff Haven't used twhirl long enough to notice it also has a memory leaks like tweetdeck. Maybe it's an issue with the air framework
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Twhirl & Laconica Bar for identi.ca, TweetDeck for twitter, Firefox for FriendFeed. Did I mention my PC runs out of memory?
- Markus Merz
from Disqus
I'm one of the few people that really dislikes TweetDeck. Tried it many times. My biggest problem with it, no shortcut keys. I'm a keyboard nav person.
- tomit
I would always prefer to be alone. I've done the "hang out with someone you don't like" thing before and it made me want to stab my own face off.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
All by myself. I'd rather be. All by myself. Woo ooo ooo
- Morgan Haley
Alone. I hate being around people I don't like.
- James Ferguson
Ohhhh, much rather be alone. And I am an extrovert for a living. I'd rather be alone 'cause I really like me! Why tolerate someone I do not like when I got this fine bitch at home? Please....
- nakachi
Depends, sometimes I find it interesting to converse with people I don't like to see their "side" of things, though I tend to stay non-confrontational in those cases. =p
- Daniel Bruce
me myself and I....the only ones who understand me anyway
- suzanne
Nakachi, that's what I tell my husband. Interesting because in social situations, I'm the butterfly and he's a wallflower. But he always wants people over whether we like them or not. I'm like "I'd rather chew my toenails than hang with them for 5 min."
- Admiral Anika
+1 Robert DeBord and LOL @ Morgan. Depends. Being alone *edit* can be selfish for those who love themselves like Nakachi, but it's hard for Derrick's roommate because she's got issues (I think this has already been established), and then there are the martyrs like me who will sit with someone I don't like if something is to be gained by that person. Or maybe I'm just fooling myself.
- Trish Haley
Jason, I'm thinking about a friend of mine, who, well...we hang out from time to time, but it seems like it's a chore. Re: my roommate, the poor thing. She seems to just like chaos. It doesn't matter to her. But the thought of kicking it at home alone (which I love and covet) might as well be murder.
- Derrick
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There is a larger gap than your logic can leap between selfish and loving one's self. If you do not like someone, where is the obligation to be around them? Why am I selfish for having the ability to gain from myself?
- nakachi
hey, you're not the only one nakachi. i liked what you said, but it depends on the situation. if someone you don't like could use your company at the moment then choosing to be by yourself would then become selfish. EDIT: I edited my first comment... reread and looked like I was calling Nakachi selfish. Sorry! For the record, I like her style.
- Trish Haley
Trish, I don't see it as selfish per se. I love myself, I amuse me and I'm not going to bore the shit out of myself. I think selfish would be to participate in a charade where you lead the other person to think you're interested in them. Derrick, I have (had) friends like that. I have to mentally prep myself to deal with them for a few hours. To me, nothing is worth that, even the relief you feel when you part.
- Admiral Anika
Trish, I think choosing to be with someone you don't like as though you like them just because they want some company is false and misleading, much worse in my book than selfish. But, you are right, it may well depend on the situation.
- nakachi
Cecily, I'm an extrovert, but I'm not going to waste my time being around someone I don't like. If it comes down to that, I'd rather be alone.
- josh neff, geek at large
@Derrick: I totally get where you're coming from on the hanging out with someone feeling like a chore. I have a couple of friends like that...nice people, and can be interesting to interact with online, but in person...it's hell. I can only tolerate like very short bursts of them before being with them turns into a chore. And by short bursts, I mean about 10-15 minutes. Tops. Normally I'd think perhaps it was me, but we have mutual friends who feel the same way as I do...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
OK, ok, glad we're good Nakachi. And you're right Anika, it would be selfish to sit with someone IF you were being two-faced and misleading. I would rather "chew my own toenails" than be that person. But if this person is just someone that could just use an ear and you have no hidden agendas then sitting with them would be what a good human being would do.
- Trish Haley
+1 @joshua. I love people and love being around people, but I don't see the point of being around someone I don't particularly care for.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
YOU ARE SERIOUSLY GONNA ASK THESE PEOPLE!? rofl. yea were all a bit hermish... just give them a ipod or laptop and leave them in a room for study..all they would ask for is Cheetos...and dr pepper..
- Caroline
Alone, but that isn't shocking for me. I sometimes prefer to be alone than with people I like. I sometimes prefer books to people. It's just how I am.
- Katy S
Alone. I wonder if most of the people who would answer the other way are off keeping each other company rather than hanging out on FriendFeed. :)
- Ruchira S. Datta
I'm never alone, the imaginary friends are real, and more fun than annoying people I don't like.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Alone. But some of my best friends would go the "quantity not quality" diection. Beats the hell out of me.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
well I myself sometimes prefer to be alone rather than with someone I hate or I can hardly handle ... but if I'm in the mood I will go out with them but very rarely.
- Viva Vida
If it's only "don't particularly like" then it depends on my mood. Of course, its hard for me to imagine someone I don't particularly like. I'm a social slut and I like just about everyone for the unique qualities that everyone has.
- Zach Landes
Alone. Used to be the former, but I'm not that desperate for company, anymore.
- Helen Sventitsky
I'd rather be alone vs. hanging out with someone I don't like.
- Herb Hernandez
Alone so I could find new friends to hang with
- Susan Beebe
sometimes i rather be alone than hangout with the people i love, so no
- Peter Efland
With someone I don't like, like that particular person visiting me each 2-3 days that is really non-techie and gets on my nerves by bragging on anything. Since I still don't have the internet at home, it pisses me off to have debates on who's right (the old 'what's the meaning of X?' with no Google's define:X available...). With that in mind, I prefer to have someone to hang out with, in the worst of cases, at least to make him/her learn about new things, else it's a dead end, buddy, I'm leaving.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
yeah cause its easier to go back and check your links in delicious if you want to keep it if it's not just another lolcat pic.. things move too fast to go back in here
- Terry O'Fee
I still do because I find them a bit easier to find later. Plus they get pushed here, twitter and, after a few build up, to my blog as a link post.
- Scott Kingery
I still use delicious! But only for things that I think I shouldn't miss in the future. And as always, I just bookmark stuff there, forgetting everything about them the next second. It's almost like a ritual!
- rampantheart
from twhirl
It's easier following up on a link in del though.
- ◄ani625Ξ
Different methods of sharing links have different outcomes. For instance, sharing here will only share with follwers. Sharing via stumbleupon puts that URL into the stumble algorithm so even those who are not your "friends" might still see it.
- KyleHase
from twhirl
Bookmarklets rule and FF has nicest one so far.
- Rodfather
I wrote a delicious clone and integrated it with my blogging software.
- Wirehead
I use Delicious all the time. Like the fact I can take my bookmarks anywhere that has a internet connection. Use FriendFeed to share funny pictures.
- Hector Ramon
I think the only person I ever shared links with on delicious was myself. In the future. On another computer. The firefox plugin is great -- and I wish Chrome had something like it so the links would more easily go cross-browser in near-realtime.
- lilbyrdie
is there a bookmarklet for delicious? I used to use the plugin for Firefox, but now I'm on Camino and I never looked for a new one.
- Veronica
@Veronica - see here for the bookmarklet: http://delicious.com/help... - I tend to use Google Bookmarks for the stuff I use day-to-day and delicious for all the things I think "that might be useful in the future"
- Andy Davies
I use delicious to feed into friendfeed
- Bryan Lee
from twhirl
I use Delicious for myself, FF to share with others. :)
- mikepk
All of this talk of feeding on delicious friends is making me hungry!
- Paul Reynolds
I use del.icio.us more, with friendfeed. Now they route to Twitter near realtime; before, they were homebodies.
- Denise Howell
I don't share links. I keep them all to myself. Screw you guys. OK, maybe Twitter.
- Mike Nayyar
I never used Delicious to share links. It's a tool for saving links for yourself primarily IMO. Delicious has been so valuable to me personally because of that. I think ur doin' it wrong.
- Fleagle
I'm still off Facebook and it's ging to stay that way for a while.
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
Who cares? Facebook still sucks. So many better ways to be social online. Like this, for instance.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
one of the things that this has made me realise is still the amount of people that don't like facebook. I didn't realise there we so many, i'm not alone anymore. sigh. :)
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
While I agree with Todd B. in principal (i.e. facebook does indeed suck), facebook has proved useful for reconnecting with some long lost friends. It happened again just yesterday. I hate that I have to go over there to see anything about any of them, though.
- Jim Misses SP
They're fairly different, AFAIK. Jing is low-end screencasting. Skitch is high-end screen capturing. Jing seems tied to a share-cropping revenue model. Skitch is independently useful. They're both damned easy to use, and I use both.
- Jeremy Dunck
I've been using Screentoaster a bit lately, but it just takes that little bit too long to start recording.
- Chris Dahl
I'm completely with Jeremy on this one. I like both a lot, and frequently use Jing at work (as Network Admin/Support Specialist/Teacher), and would use Skitch a lot more if I were able to use a Mac at work!
- Niklas Pivic
Why do you use jing frequently at work Niklas? Thats interesting
- Colby Olson
Also, i dont think you can output files from Jing...they make you upload their video to their file sharing service. Might be tricky if you want to syndicate your screencasting on other video services; youtube, vimeo, veoh, etc. I would recommend Camtasia Studio. Very easy to use, powerful, and worth the investment
- Vin Turk
Quiet important for me... but I more on twitter ;)
- PIPSGuy
IMHO this is the wrong demo to ask. There are more Facebook users than Twitter users.
- Jorge Escobar
I have reconnected with dozens of people on Facebook, most of whom I have not had contact with in 25+ years. They are far more important to me than the friends I have on Twitter.
- Mistletoe Glen
It depends on what you use it for. I could close mine tomorrow, and not really miss it. It's a secondary thing for me. I've been online so long, I've always traded email addresses with people first, and still do, if I wish to remain in contact.
- Ian May
I'm with Glen. My real life friends are on Facebook. People I will go out and have a beer with. People with whom I feel comfortable sharing my phone number and address. I can't say that about a single other website.
- Andrew
It's great for connecting with your real-life friends, but not quite as good for reaching a wider-range audience like you can do with Twitter.
- Jonathan Brown
from twhirl
I don't understand why everyone is freaking out - I can probably locate the same info on a person via google as what FB 'owns' now. Plus, all of these EULA are subject to legal review once a case hits. Last, how many people read the EULA for games, software, email, and everything else. Google owns more of your data than most know
- John Head
from twhirl
I've been online over 20 years, back when it was JUST email, so I guess that's why I've always given it more importance. It's still the thing I ask now. "want to meet up for a beer next week? Here's my email address".
- Ian May
One reason I keep my FB account is the friend suggestion feature based on mutual friends. Googling people is fine but you have to know who to google and that's the hard part, at least for me.
- KyleHase
from twhirl
LOL> I was muttering to my wife about friend suggestion, as it keeps suggesting people I don't know. They're often in my city, but there's 250K in the metro area, dunno how many on FB.
- Ian May
I keep it for staying in touch with friends basically.
- Nation Hahn
Amir H. I'd be much more inconvenienced to not have Twitter than FB. Twitter is so quick and seamless between desktop and mobile
- Ian May
FB is as important to me as those discount cards that you get from stores you don't frequent.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Only as important as your personal brand on the internet. You need to control your name and information. Even though you don't want to have a .net domain you still buy it just in case someone else does it and try to impersonate you.
- Uncle CW™
The answer to that question should be a wake-up call to people who are so deeply entrenched in a closed service that doesn't respect users' rights and interests... The Hotel Facebook... You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
- LogEx
Having a Facebook is not "as important as your personal brand on the internet." Does my facebook even show up in Google? It's too closed to be that powerful in building your presence. Also, nobody can impersonate you very well unless you're half-assed with your social engagement.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The only reason I have a FB account is to communicate with my employees. Its about the only messaging system they notice.
- ThePicMan
How important are any of these accounts, really? It's a controlled simulacrum.
- deusdiabolus
It all depends on where the people who you socially network with are. If they are on Facebook very important but if they are not then it's not that important
- Rob Cairns
I do not have the FB account. I always viewed FB as "gated community". I don't see it important... as of yet :)
- Nilesh
How important? Almost all my university friends are there, almost all my highschool friends are there, many work collegues are there. It's important.
- Richard A.
It's true. Facebook is more interactive in most ways than Twitter, making it a better place to connect w/ friends.
- Amir
FB and Twitter have generation gaps. Twitter is preferred by people that want to say it or comment and get on with it. This includes 30 somethings and older folks. Younger people and people that see FB as the home page and have time or want to spent time filling it with there stuff. They both service different needs and I cant tell you which will last longer in either. The fact that twitter is easier to block/hide spamers and ads also appeals to some people as well.
- walterh
However, it generally depends on how you use social networking and you views on social media.
- Amir
Facebook will last longer, it's a portal type website. With Twitter you can't even finish a thought without running out of characters.
- Richard A.
my facebook account is extremely important because it's the #1 way that I stay connected to my friends online
- Rajiv Doshi
IMHO Facebook is important for me too because the general population of the Internet (& friends) lean toward FB.
- Amir
Facebook is for people with time to kill. I find it requires way more of mine than I'm willing to give. That's why I prefer Twitter anf Friendfeed which fit into MY lifestyle rather than make me fit into theirs, as Facebook does.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
After taking a closer look at Facebook's terms of use I am not so sure about its prominence in my online space. The terms go too far and that has implications for my content everywhere. I published a post with my analysis of the problematic terms here: http://webtechlaw.com/what-fa...
- Paul Jacobson
from twhirl
Paul Jacobson: Yes. To much controversey leads me to believe that my privacy is at risk. W/ Twitter privacy becomes less of an issue.
- Amir
The reason for the existence of my FB account is because that's where my friends are.
- Amir
Atleast w/ Twitter I don't have to regard its terms of use before posting content.
- Amir
It's not important. It's just fun, nothing more. If it was important, we'd all be paying for the service. When it comes to free, I don't expect anything and take it for what it's worth
- Mike
as much or as little as you put into it
- sofarsoShawn
FB is the #1 way I stay connected online with most of my less tech saavy friends, family & colleagues. In addition to being a virtual HS & long lost friend reunion.
- Victor
I could live without Facebook quite happily.
- Kol Tregaskes
I found I could live without Facebook after 24 hrs of using it some years ago. Promptly deleted.
- Thomas Bøhm
from Friend Deck
I laugh as I say this, yeah but you're not a recent graduate and it's frustrating for you to use facebook none of your generation are there ;-)
- Richard A.
I hate facebook. Use it only to keep up with "old" friends. But it makes me feel retrospective and filthy....and not in a good way.
- Paul Greer
I don;t like facebook and don't go on there too much. Wish everyone would leave facebook and join other social networks.
- Luke Addison
from twhirl
It would be important if it were the only site I checked but I am active across many sites across the Internet :)
- Joe Dawson
So you wish you'd have to surf to twenty websites rather than just one?
- Richard A.
For all those who use Facebook as a way to connect with people they lost contact with, isn't the key to that being as high up the google results as possible? I've never used facebook and do just fine. If I don't know people now, there is a reason for it and don't wanna get poked by them, or any of that rubbish.
- Dom Barnes
To everyone who keeps saying "just google them": 1) You have to actually remember their name to google them. (FB suggests friends in common). 2) For some people, without FB they won't even apepar in a google result set. Look I don't like FB that much but it's the only way I can keep in touch with some of my close friends who are far less geeky.
- KyleHase
from twhirl
To me not very important. I keep in contact with close friends in other ways.The worst is that I opened an account and within days I was invited by a couple of people I knew years ago. I don't know why they were searching for me anyway. If we have not been in touch for years there must be reasons. I just don't see the point.
- M F
Whether or not it is important really is up to you in the end. I have another opinion on some of these social networks and sign-up more than anything for security reasons. Even If I don' t participate much, at least I' ve blocked a profile for myself and can ensure (to some extent) that I am avoiding identity theft through those services.
- Thomas V. Fischer
from twhirl
Like many others here, Facebook is mostly for the people I've met in person: friends from school, work, etc. Most of them do NOT have Twitter accounts. For me, Twitter is a great way to interact online with people who share similar interests but I'm likely to never meet.
- Herb Hernandez
I don't have many friends, but I have lots of folks who follow my blogs and tweets. That is why I use Friendfeed. I don't even have a Facebook account.
- Jim Corkrum
Very important to be since all my college and high school friends are on it. They don't really get this Twitter thing. :(
- Daynah
I wouldn't lose any sleep if Facebook went away tomorrow. I don't find it especially valuable.
- Thomas Hawk
I only have an account so I can run Facebook ads... I find little to no value. Even the ads have a very poor CTR%
- andy brudtkuhl
It's been handy for connecting w/ family and some friends, but it's nothing I would lament losing.
- JA Castillo
How do you delete or get your Facebook account deleted? (I don't mean deactivated)
- Paul Grav
I agree....Twitter account is more important.
- John Flynn
where I live in Canada, no one knows what Twitter is other than CNN... but everyone has a Facebook account: it's how events are planned, status messages are traded, pictures and videos are shared, and how we gossip... Twitter is irrelevant in my local community
- Brad Arsenault
from twhirl
I've actually just de-activated my Facebook - really can't be bothered with it anymore - got a lot more new sites/socail networks to work on. Facebook is becoming old IMHO!
- Luke Addison
from twhirl
I just post to it through ping.fm - love my twitter and tumblr and now blip!
- Pop Art Diva
"Hah! Orlowski has about as much grip on the truth as a snail has on a carrot. I do not believe a damn thing I read in the Register. Sorry you’re seeing Orlowski’s ethics close up for yourself."
- Robert Scoble
I like the comment, the snail example, and the entire thread. What a back and forth between these guys who both write well and manage to insult one another eloquently. :-)
- Louis Gray
"I await your follow-up with bated apathy." There are some keeper lines in there.
- Josh Haley
Damn. I was hoping it was going to be about me!
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
I second that challenge to Orlowski. His main asset is being jaded on, well, everything, really.
- Gerd Leonhard
I'm sorry but the reg does have some bloody good reporting, it also has some trash and I do wish they'd return to the reg that I started reading back in 99 more often than some of the trash they post. But claiming all of it is bollocks simply isn't true - they were one of the few places to really give decent coverage of the Phorm debacle when most other people ignored it (the illegal snooping on an estimated 100,000 people for profit & a bit of governmental corruption, I'd have thought it'd be everywhere!)
- alphaxion
These new TOS's should be challenged in court. Are they reasonable? I don't recall agreeing to the new TOS's at any time recently (Although I did agree to the original ones). This might make them un-enforceable. As one commentor said "Supposing they added a clause saying they could come to your house and cut down your shrubbery. Obviously this would be thrown out of court. So do the new terms breach "The Shrubbery" test?"
- Gary
Zee, having server trouble? Not loading now. .
- Simon Wicks
you know i think this story has broken the bloody site. Have got the powers that be looking into it
- Zee.
i'm not a fan of facebook. Not worked out why, just something about it. This is utter crap. Nothing really stopping them from making an iStockPhoto duplicate, selling your images. Of course this thing wouldn't stand in court, didn't agree to it for one.
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
Seriously considering getting off Facebook. It's doing nothing for my business and only adds to my frustration. There's one more blogpost in it: My experience in getting off facebook.
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
Not liking this .. will use FB less ,
- johnpiercy
i like more and more to NOT be registered on facebook :) i'm the only one among my friends and even familly (funny thing is that i'm definitively more geek & online addicted than them) who made this choice, for various reasons. Maybe even just for challenge, and i'm glad too. Day after day this is more & more fun not to register in this evil service who is directed by money, no more by...
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- TiTi
So they own all my tweets? since twitter goes to my facebook account. YAY! :(
- Patrick
from twhirl
I'm going to edit my signature to include 'property of facebook' :P
- Joe Dawson
Do they own my FriendFeed posts, my stuff on Flickr (It's Creative Commons licensed!), my Tweets, my last.fm profile content, and bunch of other random stuff that I've piped through Facebook in the past, now?
- Tyson Key
I thought this was common knowledge by now ?
- Bwana ☠
Sean: it is daunting. Actually, we created a DMZ line. Anything before yesterday (email wise) went into a folder and we'll start fresh with new emails that came in after yesterday.
- Robert Scoble
Does that mean less tweeting and friendfeed for you now?
- Richard A.
Richard: probably. Mostly cause I have a clear list of tasks and goals and projects now.
- Robert Scoble
Hehe, but then you'd lose part of your friendfeed and twitter identity.
- Richard A.
David Allen is awesome. And a big Notes fan :-)
- John Head
from twhirl
Robert - do you use a tasks mgmt / GTD app on the iPhone? If so, care to say which one?
- Patrick Jordan
Patrick: that's one of my tasks to figure out. :-) Right now we mostly cleared up my Outlook and got a good system setup. Capturing stuff on iPhone is next stage.
- Robert Scoble
Cool. There are A LOT of good choices out there. My current favorite is Things because of its simple, elegant UI on both desktop (Mac only) and iPhone - and seamless wireless sync between the two. Nozbe launched their native iPhone app this week - anyway, lots of good ones to choose from. Guess that's another task :)
- Patrick Jordan
I think anybody who wants to manage tasks on any sort of device should take a hard look at http://www.rememberthemilk.com. If it has a weak spot, it'd be the lack of Outlook integration, IMHO :-/
- Ken Sheppardson
@ Ken - RTM is very good. I haven't seen their native iPhone app, but have used the web-based app and liked it ...
- Patrick Jordan
Outlook integration? It has an open API, wouldn't an Outlook hacker need to create a plugin or something?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Chalk me up as another fan of RTM. Works great on an iPhone, with the free application.
- Ian Betteridge
Productivity seems to be a real focus at the moment - there's a free trial with a bunch of videos right here... http://the845club.com
- Mark
GTD rocks! I agree with Ken about Remember The Milk. It's free and can be configured to be a great GTD app.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Rahsheen: There are probably 200+ requests for RTM<->Outlook syncing of some sort in the RTM forums, and a couple of half-harted stabs at a plugin, but nobody's delivered anything yet AFAIK. The RTM API is pretty easy... Sort of the opposite of writing an Outlook plugin, particularly an Outlook plugin that'll run on anything besides the author's box. (OK, so I'm exaggerating... slightly.)
- Ken Sheppardson
Michael Dolan is great. The video is awesome and its great to see people with a very visible profile talking about GTD.
- Adam Martin
"Collaboration between the arts and sciences has the potential to create new knowledge, ideas and processes beneficial to both fields. Artists and scientists approach creativity, exploration and research in different ways and from different perspectives; when working together they open up new ways of seeing, experiencing and interpreting the world around us."
- Seth Greenblatt
from Bookmarklet