The Next Web Europe

its a mac - Robert Higgins

c'est tres beau, more photos here http://www.macgeneration.com/news... - alex

wow! - zʍıɔ

damn! - Mitchell McKenna

Wow! - Nicholas Kreidberg

it's ridiculous. How do they expect to compete? - Zee.

Precisely Zee. O2 must be ever so pleased. - Roberto Bonini

well they won't, obviously. it's just newbies getting into the net neutrality debate. they're going to get lynched - James Cox from IM

anyhow, it's all good- this has to mean that getting unlocked phones will be easier… so then running it on t-mobile uk will be much simpler, especially given that it is such a better network - James Cox from IM

But Zee, consider. Do newbies even know that non-orange streaming services exist (apart from youtube)?? - Roberto Bonini

+1 James. @Roberto honestly, I'd say YouTube and Spotify are enough to be pissed off about - Zee.

Agreed Zee. I dislike restrictions in all its forms. I'd steer well clear of Orange on principle alone. - Roberto Bonini

The strain on the O2 network, at least in London, is palpable. Most people chalk it up to increased data usage driven primarily by iPhone. The hope was that with Vodafone and Orange in the game that things would settle as the usage flattened across the services. Looks like that’s less likely to happen, now that Orange is providing a sub-optimal user experience. This kind of “protectionism” feels a lot like the music industry, before it got burned. - George Nimeh

when i switched to tmo about 5 years ago, i was told during the sales pitch that tmo were investing a million pounds a month on their data infrastructure, to build for the future they knew was coming. i believed them- and still do; in areas they've got 3g, the data rate has been pretty decent and continues to be. It also makes sense: when money was cheap, they upgraded their network. now money is expensive, it's impossible to invest. So don't expect anything to change for a while! - James Cox from IM

"Not to be used for other activities (eg using your handset as a modem, non-Orange internet based streaming services, voice or video over the internet, instant messaging, peer to peer file sharing, non-Orange internet based video)." Why does it remind me of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch... - John Craft

Although I agree with what's being said, I think this is just the old T's & C's for Orange Internet services pre the iPhone. They will change them or not enforce them. That being said, Orange is actually the worst uk network in my view and the 750mb limit just goes to show they really do not understand this marketplace. Personally I think that Vodafone will be the network of choice for the uk come Feb when they start selling it. And I for one will be porting over as soon as I can. - Keith Bennett from BuddyFeed

@James, I've tried an iPhone on tmob uk and it's not as good a service as O2 tbh. All the networks upgraded in recent times to build proper 3g services. In my experience, Vodafone is by far the best for any Internet service. - Keith Bennett from BuddyFeed

İkisine de sahibim, açıkcası hiçbirşeye benzemiyorlar. Yani Wave tamamen hayal kırıklığı, put.io ise çok çok vasat. :) - Ersin KOÇ

Bana versene o zaman :) - Eren CAN*

Put.io'nun değerini gün geçtikçe daha iyi anlayacağız. Lakin ortada torrent kalmaması durumunda ne olacak o da ayrı bir mesele... Put.io'nun buna da kafa yormasında fayda var. Hexagon.cc de Isohunt'ın benzer bir uygulaması. Ona da üyeyim ama tam değerlendirme fırsatını bulamadım. Bu arada Google Wave Gmail gibi tek başına kullanılacak bir servis değil. Google 20'şer davetiyeyi anında... more... - Cem ARGUN

Evet bu konuda hak vermemek elde değil. Aylardır davetiye peşinde koşan insanlar şimdi " Google Wave fos çıktı" gibi geri dönüşlerle karşılaşıyor. Bence eğer proje belli bir seviyeye geldiyse belirli platformlarda kullanıma açılmalıydı mesela friendfeed, linkedin gibi hesaplardan googlewave'e geçiş verilebilirdi. Bu şekilde daha sağlıklı bir beta sürecini geçirilmiş olurdu. - Eren CAN*

Ersin: put.io ya vasat dedin ya, cidden neyin dolu neyin kimin vasat olduğu çıktı ortaya. - Levent Bali from iPhone

kesinlikle.. yerli malı yurdum malı herkes bunu kullanmalı... daha her ikisini de kullanamadıma ma olsun - Necdet (nec) Terkes

omg want. It doesn't have to do every minute. Just some automatic snapshots would be fine. Ben, how did you get one?? - Kamilah Gill

Cool - I'll be able to cross-reference myself on my way home with all the CCTV footage. - dkb

lol +1 dxb - Zee.

I want it for artistic reasons. I wouldn't publish everything, I'd scan through it for the best bits. It would be like having my own personal Google Street View. - Kamilah Gill

cuz life is all that interesting? meh - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

@Kamilah I don't actually have one, I'm just saying I'm happy someone's making it a retail product. - Ben Reierson

@m9m the idea is that the sensecam takes pictures of all the moments that aren't interesting at the time, but can turn out to be important later. Would it be nice to have a picture of the first time you saw your best friend or spouse, or just to locate the last time you had your keys? - Ben Reierson

I would be selective about when I'd wear it. I couldn't wear it to work when I'm around sensitive documents, of course, and I'd take it off while doing anything private. But otherwise, while driving, walking around, whatever, this would be awesome. You miss so many little things. This gets my artist gears whirling into overdrive. - Kamilah Gill

1 pic every 30secs -> 2/min. -> 120/hour -> 960 in 8 hours = How do you sort through them all and find exactly what you want. I know there is a timeline you can use but what if you want to find the name a particular book that you looked at but you don't remember when you looked at it, never the less if it was from several days ago! - Mark Layton

Maybe one day they'll put in some kind of word recognition thing to make it useful for that kind of fine-tuned note taking. As it is, I'd be happy with just being able to skim through the thumbnails to see whether any images for the day stand out. - Kamilah Gill