Yes, Mo asked to participate in the Ass Roasting. I wasn't really serious about it until Mo asked. Then I had to make it exist.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
LMAO, Kamilah so awesome, but you missed Sean's half-stache and goatee. Those would have made it even more awesome.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
aw, shoot. I checked, but I wasn't sure about the status of his facial hair.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
This is THE. BEST. THING. ON. THE. INTERNET. EVER. *weeps for joy*
- MoTO #TeamMonique
I'm tempted to lie about it just to see what I'd look like in one of your illustrations
- chrisofspades
oh, though sketch is good, ever had an exhibition?
- testbeta
I always knew it. The first time I saw Mo Kargas on FF, I knew he could roast asses with his eyes.
- Joshua
Thanks, everyone :) I don't know that I can sell the original sketchbook, it's really my personal journal. As I say from time to time, though, my goal is to do some larger drawings and paintings, and eventually I hope to sell those, I just need, like, 48 hours in a day to get everything done... it's going to happen somehow, soon. I have had some of my work exhibited at various times,...
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- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, you're here! You should subscribe to me. :)
- EricaJoy
What happens if I subscribe to you, Erica? Is something in particular happening over on your feed?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Nothing interesting happening on my feed but I bet $100 I could make your day. :)
- EricaJoy
By the way Kamilah? I want the MoBot on a t-shirt.... Pleeeaaaasssseeee???
- MoTO #TeamMonique
Yes, giant robots are made of win. I dunno, Barry... last time I tried to make a t-shirt, people got all excited but no-one bought it (DYSP!). I might just make a design but not bother to try setting up a Spreadshirt (or whichever one it was that I used) for it. I'll have to see.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I could do that somehow, I guess. I've taken payments through PayPal before. I wonder what pose the MoBot should be in? Have some source material I could work from?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, you are truly Princess Wave! Awesome, totally awesome!
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Wait...we all knew +Louis Gray was with the Googs team already, no? Yes. :D Congratulations Louis!! All the best to you!!!
- sofarsoShawn
You can be like the guy in the Dilbert comic. Instead of telling them to make it more "webbish", just tell the team to make it more "friendfeedish."
- Laura Norvig
Well congratulations to you!. All the very best from this died in the wool Mac Guy. I hope you can find the time, sometime, to make that My6Sense available in other apps and contexts outside the My6Sense app itself.
- JSLeFanu
Sounds like a great fit. Congratulations!
- Benjamin Golub
I might have to make Louis a t-shirt that says "Google Apps users are people too!" Do you think he would wear it to work?
- Skyler Call
Congratulations! wow, being all poker-faced about it last Tuesday... :)
- Tudor Bosman
Congrats, Louis. Though I suspect we should all be posting on Google+ now since you're the Product Marketing Manager for the Google+ team. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
congratulations Louis don't forget us mortals! we know you are a robot!
- testbeta
Congratulations! I'm looking forward to watching your progress there.
- Anne Bouey
Batuhan, I have a hard time imagining not using FriendFeed? But you've already seen me using it less, in favor of Google+. I think the best solution is for those of us interested in making the move to do so, and/or Google+ learning from the best FriendFeed has to offer.
- Louis Gray
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Congrats, Louis. Of course, this means even less sleep, right?
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Can I use your employee discount for some Android toys?
- Rodfather
most surprising thing for me is that TNW didn't wrote anything about this.
- batuhan icoz
Strange that I found out about this on Twitter and not G+ or FriendFeed... (Louis, you're now in my Google People circle. Just sayin'...)
- Dennis Jernberg
Congrats - but... but... - it means now I will ignore anything you say about google+ or it's perceived competitors... well, not ignore, but strongly pinch-of-salt it... Anyway, here's to you kicking ass there and making google+ better!!!
- Iphigenie
I LOVE this move. Congratulations. +1 to you!!
- Harold Cabezas
Louis, agree on your comment about Google+ and FF. G+ needs to learn from FF and hopefully everyone here will move over there... then I don't have to jump form one service to the other all the time. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
... there goes the neighborhood ...
- Laura Norvig
WHAT. I completely missed this. Processing...
- Josh Haley
posted as comment on blog: "Dude..... DUDE! Wow. Congrats! Next post has to be something negative about Google, so we know you're keeping it real. Kidding. You're the standard of keeping it real. All the others could learn a ton from watching you. Best of luck and please wear your FFundercats shirt to Google one day and send me a pic of you in it with some amazing Google backdrop. Your assignment is before you. Go and do. ;)"
- Josh Haley
Which are you using atm? Are you using both? If you've moved to Google+ what made you move? If you've stayed on FF, what is keeping you on the service and not moving to G+? You can follow the same thread on Google+: https://plus.google.com/1044055...
- Kol Tregaskes
For me I'm using both but a lot more of Google+. Google+ has a variety of discussions, including tech (which I love). FF varies too but has a lot less tech. I like variety but think I've missed the tech discussions we used to have on FF so G+ is appealing to me for one reason.
- Kol Tregaskes
The community is far stronger on FF than G+ though but that is to be expected from a brand new social service vs. a service that has been going to several years. This will change over time but I already see a lot of FriendFeeders on Google+ so it's kinda a home from home atm. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
As I've pointed out here: http://ff.im/HFq1R the features and feel of Google+ are impressive but it lacks some important things like groups and search facilities which FF has implemented very well. The Googl mobile app is great but the site itself really needs a bookmarklet in the form of FriendFeed's or even Amplify's.
- Kol Tregaskes
In regards to aggregration, I won't miss it if it's not added into Google+. Gone will be the days of empty accounts with just an RSS and Twitter feed with no one at the end of it. I like responding to users imported service, such as their tweets, but can certainly live without it. Google+ seems richer in content with everything being native. There is enough posts on Google+ already, I...
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- Kol Tregaskes
The bugs in FriendFeed are the most annoying thing on the service. It breaks regularly and features drop out occassionally. Search was down for months at one stage and I lost the use of my saved searches, which I relied on so heavily. G+ is not without its bugs of course but you know that they will be fixed fairly quickly. Facebook are just propping FF up atm and you fear if it breaks hard it breaks for good. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Overall, FF has the community, Google+ has the features and future. I'm staying on both but G+ is getting more and more of my attention as each day passes. What about you?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, but you don't have to follow people who just have RSS feeds as accounts. Without bookmarklets G+ is really missing a key feature. Without the ability to import the RSS feeds of my blog then how could I use it?
- Todd Hoff
i still feel that Stream here are much better the G+.. as such FF does not have Hangout and sparks is ridiculously stupid.. no options to import RSS/Twitter into G+ ..makes it a small playground
- Peter Dawson
And when you fall out of love with G+ where is your content? Putting all your money content in something you don't own is always a disappointment.
- Todd Hoff
Peter, like I say I won't miss imports. There is a ton of content on G+ already.
- Kol Tregaskes
Todd, very true but I don't have my own blog so not going to affect me. I appreciate it will affect others but I've trying blogging and always come up issues.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'll never close my FF account. It will be there till the day the FF closes is ever but I'm using G+ far more than FF now - though my FF usages has decreased dramatically over the last year or so. There are mainly reason, most unrelated to the service itself but G+ are sparked my interest in a social network again.
- Kol Tregaskes
i use both. not leaving FF for anything except the servers being shut down.
- Hieronymous Boob
G+ has a LONG way to go before it comes close to matching FF on features. the main thing G+ has going for it at the moment is an expanding user base and rapid dev. but then so did Buzz, and we know how that turned out, eh?
- Hieronymous Boob
I have to say I do like the ability to like comments on G+. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
ACtuallyKol, I have pvt rooms setup on FF ..which I import only industry /vertical specific Feeds.. this makes it more 'streamed' in terms of what I need and monitor.. whereas with G+ theres a lot of content which I personally need to manage.. this means more effort on my part !
- Peter Dawson
Blogger integration into G+ and the release of the G+ API to developers will definitely shift more of my attention to G+. That and a bookmarklet, of course (I have one for Posterous as well as FriendFeed). I'm waiting for Google to add more of the features we enjoy on FF, and actively asking. There's lots of room for improvement at G+, and Google are improving it. Still, I'm sticking with FF till Facebook shut it down (and G+ may be Zuck's excuse).
- Dennis Jernberg
Peter, I did that too and used this to them share to FF publicly. But I always go back to Google Reader. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Dennis, I hope they don't shut down FF but it's always a worry.
- Kol Tregaskes
I've certainly been enjoying G+ more than FF over the last week. I don't know if it's the new shiny or the focus on native and manually shared content, but it seems more active/engaging. It needs work on search especially and a few other things, but I'm liking it over there.
- Jandy
maybe Zack should pay more attention to FF and this is truly the competetion to G+ Streams. hey if we had hangout and Circles ( in the same tech side as G+), I bet you that FF will be kicking G+ butt.. just because FF has only streams.. does not mean that its NOT Best of breed for Aggregation !
- Peter Dawson
@Kol, google Reader does not allow you to gather comments (i.e threaded comments ) around a single thread :)-
- Peter Dawson
As I said on someone else's post, I'm using both until some of the kinks are worked out over at G+ and they add things like audio posts & better search inside G+.
- Bluesun 2600
Peter, GReader has comments. What do you mean exactly?
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm using both. I love FF more because of the community.
- AJ Batac
I'm using both and will be here until they turn off the 486 they have running the site.
- Gunnyman™
"I'm using both. I love FF more because of the community. - AJ Batac" Same.
- batuhan icoz
@Kol, thats only for peeps that you are following..what about the regular sub that one has aggreated as an RSS ?
- Peter Dawson
Using both. I hoped that Google+ would be FriendFeed+ but right now it's just Twitter+. With no equivalent to FF's groups it's effectively broadcast only so I can see why it would appeal to the tech crowd who just want to get their message out, have a bit of a chat, and move onto the next shiny thing to promote. With the right Greasemonkey script FF could look like, act like, and completely surpass G+ in almost every respect.
- Mark H
I will be on FF till its dead. Google+ has a long way to catch up FF's features. G+ stream is so buggy.
- Ozgur Uckan
Both and find FF more useful than G+ so far.
- Egor Kunovsky
As far as the Persian users are concerned, although most of people use FF for sending links and short discussions, Persian users usually use FF (right or wrong) for their actual contents - something like a mini weblog. So shutting it down would be really painful for them as they lose their contents. Secondly, since Persian users mostly use the web site for political activities from...
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- ؛ patrick
@Patrick.. G+ security could be an issue.. never the less. we have all seen how google deals with the same issue in china.. so what makes your think it will be any different in Persia ?
- Peter Dawson
I am still on FF and will go down with the ship as I love the community. I like Google+ but am not on there as much.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
@Patrick I concur that privacy is going to be a huge issue. If I am not mistaken, doesn't the Iranian Revolutionary Guard pretty much own their country's telecom infrastructure? Not to say that our own NSA isn't sniffing out much of what we communicate about.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Mark, I'd definitely have to disagree with you on Google+ being broadcast only (sorry :-)). My feed alone proves that is not the case. Twitter is a void for me, no one replies. Google+ is very active.
- Kol Tregaskes
Agreed with Kol on the last point, G+ is no more broadcast only than FF is. The level of interaction is on par with FriendFeed in the early days.
- Jandy
@Peter/Mathew, after so many years, the users have become much smarter and the techie society is consistently helping them to avoid the revolutionary guard. For instance, many of us provide VPNs for the people inside Iran so the data gets encrypted. But one case for security concerns could be the private messages. I know Google had a disastrous security hole for gmail a few years ago...
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- ؛ patrick
Good show, sir. Most peeps talk the talk bit don't walk the walk. Keep on helping. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
both, but ff works better for my needs right now. I'm sure I'll move to G+ only once they finally just get it over with and clone all of ff's features ;-)
- John
I use both, but spending more time on FriendFeed.
- imabonehead
I'm on both. I'm using FriendFeed and dabbling in Google+. I think I'll be using G+ almost solely for the Hangouts. I tried G+ out of curiosity. I think it would make a good alternative to FF if FF were to disappear. So I guess I'm using G+ as a bit of a FF back-up, adding all my FFeeps there "just in case". On FF, I like the bookmarklet; being able to pull in stuff from other services;...
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- Headless Gnad Kicker
Friendfeed is much superior to Google+. But I question whether this entire genre of software has any important future.
- Sean McBride
Both. I imagine -suspect, really - that the day will come when FF does shut down. G+ is the first close-to-viable alternative I've seen, and, Kol, like you, I do also like the tech discussions. Hope that the team, in working on satisfying Robert Scoble's zeal for noise control, doesn't find a way to shut us non-elites out of those.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
I do hope they add all the FF features, though. And my FF circle is by far the biggest and most important.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Both, but GP is winning. I still use FF because all of my FF contacts are here, and I'm still not able to find everyone on there.
- Ciaoenrico
Here is what I am missing in GP: hide all (with advanced options that FF gives), subscription history, predefined and/or custom feeds (Favorites, Business, etc.), groups, and direct messages. May be some of them are already there in a different form but I don't know how to use them. Now I feel that I was taking FriendFeed's features for granted. I hope they don't shut it down.
- ؛ patrick
3 is the best. 2. looks a bit too i-made-him-an-offer-he-couldn't-refuse and 1 is all sign-up-for-my-newsletter-for-tip-on-gaming-the-google
- Rahsheen?
While I am thinking of it: why I really like Paul Buchheit? He has given the world some amazing, innovative and elegant software, much of which I have used with great pleasure. Thanks, Paul!
- Sean McBride
#3 - didn't look at comments before I answered, but I was tempted! Never met you in person but either #1or #3 seem the most like the person I *think* you are.
- Liza + = ?
Now looking at comments - this is a very cool game! We draw so many conclusions when looking at a photo!
- Liza + = ?
I don't know if that means Alex was actually a janitor, or what?
- Jimminy IS Everybody
As Chris Greene proved, your experience in that regard is not at all self apparent.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
from YouFeed
Seeing as how he knows a lot more about UX Design tbhan you ever will, his opinion of you would be fact to a court of law.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
from YouFeed
Alex, have you ever worked with UX Design? Can you determine you're ability to justifiably, and objectively make a decision [in that area] based on someone elses opinion?
- Jimminy IS Everybody
I know people who work in UX design and they laugh at the notion that any developer can do it. I trust their opinion on the subject far more than a developer's opinion.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
from YouFeed
Alex, from what I understand, Cristo went from designer to developer. Yes, it is much harder to go from developer to designer, but they are not absolutely distinct, and can point you if you'd like to numerous people who could fill both roles.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Yes, you personally insulted me by insinuating that I know nothing about the job of being a janitor. One good insult deserves another. You didn't feel you had to prove your bona fides to Chris and I don't think I have to prove anything to you. Anyhow, back to the question at hand, I believe it would be extremely difficult to create a robot that could perform all of the duties that a janitor has to do. I think that anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know what a janitor does.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
from YouFeed
Alex, I never said it wouldn't be hard. I said which would be easier.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Cristo can feel free to draw a mockup of an interface on paper, scan it, and post it up here and we'll be the judge of his design abilities, but he won't because he feels it's beneath him.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
from YouFeed
I'm not surprised that you still don't understand why some jokes are not funny to the butt of the joke.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
from YouFeed
I suggest deep breaths on both sides or this will blow up. Cristo, Alex is mad because your original joke about him not knowing about janitors was interpreted as "you don't know what you're talking about." Alex, Cristo is upset because you're insulting his professional experience and background. We just got the two of you talking and interacting together again. Can you both take a ten count and back off?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Answer: the job you have, or the job you need done.
- Alex Scrivener
from iPhone
I'm totally biased since my dad was a janitor for 35 years, but until they make a documentary like this about software developers, I'm gonna go with the janitors :-) Also it is an amazing movie: http://www.philosopherkingsmovie.com/
- Mary Carmen
Stephen, breaking up this duo is impossible.
- Louis Gray
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do, I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage - I can't afford a carriage, But you'd look sweet upon the seat Of a bicycle built for two. We will go tandem as man and wife, Daisy, Daisy, Wheeling away down the road of life, I and my Daisy Bell. When the nights dark, we can both despise Policemen and lamps as well. There are bright lights in the dazzling eyes Of beautiful Daisy Bell
- Jimminy IS Everybody
This would probably been a lot funnier and on the mark if I had said "Which is more important, janitors or software developers who don't apparently need to work." Oh well. Yet another Costanza moment for me.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Sorry, Cristo, again, for acting like a complete ass to you.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Is the floor dirty or your program buggy?
- John D Reasor
"Mac users running Skype are vulnerable to self-propagating exploits that allow an attacker to gain unfettered system access by sending a specially manipulated attachment in an instant message, a hacker said."
- ovigia
"The vulnerability, which Maddern said isn't present in the Windows or Linux versions of the popular VoIP program, was confirmed by Skype spokeswoman Brianna Reynaud, who said a fix will be rolled out next week. Its disclosure comes the same week that researchers discovered a new crimekit that streamlines the production of Mac-based malware. It also comes as new malware surfaced for Apple's OS X that masquerades as a legitimate antivirus program."
- ovigia
thank god am using windows and linux {ubuntu}
- testbeta
thank God i am not using ms-windows+macosx+skype :) just GNU/Linux and sometimes a BSD + a free software voip app....
- ovigia
True story: After I had been in Memphis for a couple years, and had learned what BBQ is actually supposed to be, a friend of mine from out of town paid a visit. We tried the best BBQ shops around town before going to the World Championship BBQ Cooking Contest. (http://www.memphisinmay.org/bbq)
My friend observed that none of the BBQ Shops had teams entered in the contest. I turned to her and said "Of course they don't. Memphis BBQ restaurants don't enter the contest, they judge it."
- Otto
"The idea behind Grubwithus is an awesome yet simple one. You browse for a restaurant you’d like to go to in a certain city and buy a ticket for your meal at a set price. But the key is that others do this as well, all with the intention of meeting new people over dinner. And when you’re buying your ticket, you can see who your dinner buddies will be. Yes, it’s sort of like Groupon meets Meetup. And yes, it’s brilliant. So it should be no surprise that a long list of prominent early-stage investors have decided they’d love to back Grubwithus. The service, which launched out of Y Combinator last year, has just raised a $1.6 million round. Who’s at the funding table? Andreessen Horowitz, First Round Capital, NEA, SV Angel, Ashton Kutcher, Guy Oseary, Vivi Nevo, Yuri Milner, Maynard Webb, Matt Cutts, Elad Gil, Paul Buchheit, Alexis Ohanian, Start Fund, and Y Combinator."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
grub happens to be the famous bootloader's name
- testbeta
So will you all be put at the same table or just eat at the same restaurant at the same time? How do you know who you will be seated next to so that you might have something in common? You can really only talk to about 5 other people depending on the table size and layout so there is a maximum benefit there.
- Lindsay
why not make it - pay my dinner if you want to talk to me?
- анштопабл
If you don't like paying taxes for driving a car, stop driving a car. It's that simple. Why people feel that it's their right to drive, I have no idea, but it's not. You drive because the state and federal governments allow it.
This has jumped so many threads that no one knows what you two are yelling about anymore.
- Eric - seven eleven
Eric, what are you talking about? This is the first time, I've seen it. Goes off to see what Eric is yelling about.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
I assumed that he was talking about the running gun battle between Jeff and me on the subject.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ok, well the answer is a gas tax increase, where it's mostly usage based. Mileage based, is stupid. Because it requires hiring people, to check it, as well as fraud departments. It's a pain in the ass. This is the kind of thing that leads to government inefficiency.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Mileage based is the only way to get people to pay for how much they use.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex, um, what? Gas is expended on traveling (miles). Taxing it is a proxy for mileage. You're arguement makes no sense. Yes, it's not perfect, but it's pretty damn good and way more efficient than what you're recommending.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Jimminy, if you drive a car that weighs 3000 pounds and gets 40 mpg, you are doing the same amount of damage to the road as a car that weights 3000 pounds and gets 20mpg but you are paying half of the usage tax based on gas.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex, here's the thing, if you're want to go liberal and fight for the environment, why shouldn't the person expelling all that extra carbon emissions into the air, not be taxed more. A gas tax is both on emissions and usage, and you don't have to introduce a new system into the mix. If there is an shortfall, raise the gas tax 2-3 percent. On the whole it is very fair.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
They should be taxed more, but you need to get the proper amount of tax from the efficient car as well as it is doing the same amount of damage. And CW, I can't fix the government, but I can mock people who complain about taxes that they can avoid if they choose.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Also, I have to go for now, one parting note. It's a lot easier to tax several hundred thousand, than it is to tax several hundred million.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
I'm back. Alex, the statement, "I can mock people who complain about taxes that they can avoid if they choose," is just as valid for gas. If they don't want to pay so much tax let them upgrade to a car that gets better mileage. Also, you're real argument seems to be over accuracy vs efficiency, which is a common optimization problem, there is going to be a point that balances the two. Gas is way closer, than trying to track absolute usage for everyone.
- Jimminy IS Everybody