Recently my cousin's head was run over by a car. This is what's left of her helmet. My cousin completely survived because of this helmet. Please think of this before riding a bike without a helmet next time!
This happened to a friend of mine at the beginning of the month. He didn't do so good in the accident, but the helmet obviously saved his life. Thankfully is on his way home tomorrow: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit...
- Steve Lacey
I used to ride my bike without the helmet even though it is mandatory in Chennai, India. But after reading this I am not even going to the next street in my bike without helmet.
- Sudar
I never wear a helmet. When hearing things like this, I always think of this article.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1.... In the Netherlands no one wears a helmet. It seems safe to me.
- Peter Stuifzand
I was hit while riding to work in summer 2006 & did not want anyone to touch my helmet at all costs. If my brain was scrambled, I did not want anyone to touch my egg:) I highly recommend a helmet especially if you think you will not need one! Mine was almost the same color too & manufacturer, but there is no conspiracy there:)
- Roney Smith
Bicyclists/motorcyclists that don't wear helmets are better called future organ donors
- Brian Sullivan
Thanks for sharing. I ride often at traffic time between cars. always wear my helmet...itsg good to know that It does work :)
- jonathan
from twhirl
Wow, glad to hear your friend is doing well after that. I agree, helmets save lives. Regardless, I've many intentional close-calls by drivers who don't want to share the road. Unfortunately, this is the common attitude where I live (southern US).
- pete
we wear helmets for everything: mtb, snowboarding, wakeboarding, skateboarding & even surfing - skulls are fragile why not put a protective layer around it (i also try real hard to not ride on streets - a high percentage of drivers are oblivious to bike riders)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
I always ride in my helmet and stay to bike lanes as much as possible. Nice to know the safety tools work. Now, if I can just avoid that NYPD cop with a penchant for knocking people off their bikes. Hopefully, he won't transfer to LAPD.
- Jason Toney
Peter Stuifzand, my cousin would be dead if she did not wear her helmet. That article is BS. Wear your helmet!
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Point blank. You are a moron if you ride without a helmet. Sorry, but that's true and you're just going to play into Darwinian theory should you continue to ride without one. Any 'real' cyclist (e.g - you've been hit by a car - and yes, I have been) will tell you this without reservation. Helmets work without a doubt.
- AJ Kohn
I survived a nasty motorcycle crash in my youth and would also be dead without that helmet - which cracked in 2 like an egg (that would have been my head, as the nurse aptly put it!).
- Susan Beebe
A friend who's a cop refers to motorcycles as donorcycles whenever she sees someone riding without a helmet. I figure that applies for bicycles, too.
- ha3rvey (sup homepants)
I was on the way to work Monday morning while it was raining, when the third car in front of me spun out of control and flipped twice into a ditch. When I pulled over to help her out she was just fine. She only had a scratch on her left shoulder from the broken window and was not hurt anywhere else. THE REASON: She was wearing her seat belt. It's nice to hear that these devices are actually helping us!
- David Cook
Awesome. I ride my bike to work everyday and I see a lot of people with no helmets on. I don't know how they do it.
- Clint Ecker
Wow! I wear mine! Didn't for years - I was lucky I guess. Thanks for posting that!
- matthew hunt
OMG... Jesse, do you have a link other than here on FF? I have friends whose kids refuse to wear theirs, and seeing this may help.
- Cyndy
If it's nice enough to ride, I probably won't be bothering with the human-powered bike any longer. I always wear a helmet on my gas-powered bike.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
As long as we won't have mountains, we Dutch will not wear those things. Otherwise we won't be able to recognise the tourists on bikes.
- Ton Zijp
Thanks for sharing - I had a mishap with a car, wasn't wearing a helmet at the time, was lucky. If they don't see you, it doesn't matter either way. Wear the helmet!
- Rick Bucich
This isn't as extreme as this but when I fell off my bike onto a sidewalk and broke my arm, I thought I was fine for a while. Later, my dad noticed that the whole front of my helmet was all scratched up and the visor in front was torn off! I realized that if I wasn't wearing my helmet on the 2 minute trip down the road, I probably wouldn't be typing this comment right now! Not that I'd be dead but I would have suffered some head damage, limiting my ability to do most things.
- Kevin Lyons
Helmets for cyclists are mandatory in Australia. Still gives me the shudders when I'm travelling and see bareheaded bicyclists on the roads.
- Kate Foy
One thing I have noticed is that in any ovie, v show, etc where anything odd happens, the English are always portrayed as standing in place saying something like "This can't be happening" or some stupid thing like that, when it clearly IS happening. Is this some sort of national trait? I like to think that if, say, the dead rise and turn on the living, I would fight back + run to safety FIRST and worry about the ontological implications after.
- Neal Jansons
Laugh, sure. But your pounds sterling end up in a California bank account. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
My cousin dl'ed the Moron Test and tried to get me to take it. I told him he'd already failed because he was a moron for buying it in the first place. He was unamused. I wasn't.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
To be fair, he's kind of a tool, so it's less a reflection of the app and more a reflection of how much I want to throw him off the nearest high-rise.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I notice that the U.S. is no longer a nation of morons -- for the last few days, "The Sims 3" is #1, so we're now a nation of replicants.
- Stephen Mack
got this after my first intelligent use of ff filtered search. populist USA likes to feign ignorance and UK likes to superficial awareness
- Lane Rapp
Now, lets see this dog do that with a SUV which is what any good suspect is going to take.
- Wizetux
Holy cow....Or should I say, holy canine.
- Nurse Katie
Wizetux: I think the word "suspect" went away as soon as he fired off his gun. Haha. I bet the description "clean underwear" went away as soon as he saw that dog clear the car roof.
- d.l.martin
this is so crazy! i cant believe the dog jumps over the car like that! i just retweeted this.
- Jason Pollock
The cops came around the bowling alley after all the customers left and ended up doing a training exercise with the dog. Someone put on a sleeve. It was awesome!
- Rodfather
Oops !!! are you sure that is dog ??? :)))
- CRASH3R
That's incredible. Not one iota of hesitation.
- Rick Cogley
training exercise but that dog would do the same in real - and a few bites are better than a bullet even for the perpetrator.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Aw, come now, Joe. Ridley did Alien, so it's possible he could do a prequel showing the origins of the alien species quite well - given a solid script
- Nathan Chase
Alien + Aliens I enjoy a lot. If anybody can breathe life back into the series, Ridley Scott can. Maybe he should team up with James Cameron...
- Andy Bold
I stick to my original thought. Is it possible he'll strike gold? Yes. Is it likely? No.
- Joe Pierce
after AVATAR, I'd be down for Cameron to go back to Aliens and maybe produce a new film with Scott at the helm - although that would probably be two guys that would NOT get along given their notoriety for being stubborn and tyrannical on sets
- Nathan Chase
The key term being "solid script." There's a good chance that won't exist, and even Ridley can't make gold from a shit script. Why not just drop the franchise altogether and go do something new and original?
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
that, and it's a great property to explore still... it's one of the richest movie monster stories ever told
- Nathan Chase
Scott just isn't the same director he was then. He's not hungry anymore. Jonathan H. is right, this is easy money... but probably none of mine.
- Jim Hearts FF
Meh. If he does follow through with it, how does it diminish the existing films?
- Derrick
Derrick, it doesn't hurt the existing films to people who have already seen them. If he makes a shit prequel it could hurt the existing films for future fans.
- Joe Pierce
original ideas are always a riskier business proposition - it's the same in music, video games - any entertainment medium - familiarity always produces a higher chance of positive response - it's just the way humans work
- Nathan Chase
That would be good, if he decides to make this one of the good movies he does now (Kingdom of Heaven, Blackhawk Down) instead of the shitty films he does now (Hannibal, A Good Year.)
- Ciaoenrico
I guess my point with the whole original idea comment is that I would like to see something different. Something ELSE. As an average joe viewer, I don't really care where the alien came from or it's origin story. Also, what's wrong with NOT knowing? Makes the whole thing more mysterious and exciting, right?
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
All I'm saying is I have a friend who won't watch Episodes IV V and VI because he saw episodes I and II. Plus like Jason said, we have part 3 and Resurrection to show that not every Alien movie is gold, and then there are the two AVP movies. The Xenomorph has worked plenty, maybe a break? Also in the case of a reboot, it should never be done by the original creator.
- Joe Pierce
well if everyone thought Alien should have been left alone, then we would never have seen Aliens - which IMHO is the best action/horror/sci-fi film ever made
- Nathan Chase
@Nathan, it is a great film. But the sequels and the spinoffs have really made me tired of the idea altogether. And now we have a Predators remake too? How about we re-release the original films in theaters for limited runs, show new generations how good these films were instead of bastardizing them or cheapening them with prequels?
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Jason, it has more to do with the quality of the films than the shock of finding stuff out since he ha no idea that it was supposed to be a surprise.
- Joe Pierce
That's just silly. I always watch films in chronological order. The fact that your friend won't watch Eps 4, 5, and 6 because of 1, 2, and 3, prove he is a dolt. You can't undo time and that's how 95% of most people saw them. But like I said, Alien came out in 78, 79? If you wanna watch the films, start there, and if he makes a prequel starring the Jonas Brothers, it still doesn't eliminate what came before it.
- Derrick
I'd like to see him give it a go. I *love* Predator (even if it was a B-movie) but following movies haven't been that great.
- Kol Tregaskes
"The nine-month-old female weighs in at 2.04kg - the weight of a small cat - and is the size of a football. She piled on the pounds after gorging on cat biscuits and dog food at the Furze Pig Hedgehog Rescue Centre in Ross on Wye, Herefordshire, where she was taken as an orphan. The 15 other hedgehogs at the centre weigh around 600g each, so staff have decided to put Huff-Puff on a calorie-controlled diet. Maureen Webb, 60, who runs the centre with husband Derek, said: "I've looked after hedgehogs for 20 years but have never seen anything like Huff-Puff."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
Obviously the hedgehog has self image problems and requires some counselling. Personally I blame the media and all the focus they give to Size 0 hedgehogs. It puts the young hedgehogs under a lot of peer pressure and, when they feel like they are failing, they turn to comfort eating.
- Andy Bold
from Nambu
That cat is Canadian, so I think we can consider this International Terrorism... take appropriate action, people, before it sings.
- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
For the record: Yes, I completely and totally believe that Kraftwerk was a much more important, influential and better talented "band" than the Beatles or The Beach Boys.
hmmmmmm... the Beatles were pretty damn influential. Even though Kraftwerk obviously influenced many electronic-based instrumentation groups, I don't know that that number can compare to the number of rock artists and groups who have been directly influenced by Beatles songs.
- Nathan Chase
Kraftwerk ? Did you make them up or are they real?
- Brian Sullivan
There are good arguments for this - Beatles and Beach Boys spawned many bands (many of which sound like The Beatles and Beach Boys). Kraftwerk spawned entire genres and movements in modern music (electro, hip hop, detroit techno, synth pop and more).
- Boris Gordon
Brian, yes they are real, must listen. Think: Devo on 'ludes and LSD. But NOT more influential than The Beatles, for certain.
- LogEx
I saw Kraftwerk live for the second time this year and I have seen Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys live multiple times. Kraftwerk are probably better now than they have ever been and that's impressive.
- Boris Gordon
Absolutely. Dude I posted "Robots" in my feed ages ago... gonna dig it up now. ;)
- Anthony Citrano
More important? No. The idea of using sequencers and electronic instruments to play rock, later dance was virtually floating in the air at the time (think Tangerine Dream and entire Berlin school movement.) Influential? Yes, absolutely. But tracking influences can go a long way and yield paradoxical results. Kraftwerk were heavily influenced by minimalist music and Stockhausen experiments, would it make a lot of sense to say that Stockhausen is much more important than Kraftwerk and The Beatles?
- andrei_c
You could say whatever you want, andrei, but this is what I believe.
- Alex Scoble
I'll grant that "better talented" is a matter of opinion, but I'll assert that Lennon, McCartney, Wilson, and probably Harrison were more talented songwriters. A song like "Yesterday" or "California Girls" still stands up even if the instrumentation and vocal stylings are completely different. But Coldplay's "Talk" stayed very very close to "Computer Lieb"/"Computer Love" (the only exceptions being less of a monotonic voice, and the use of a guitar).
- John E. Bredehoft
In terms of talent, you could even make a claim that Depeche Mode is more talented than Kraftwerk. Obviously Depeche Mode is derivative in a sense, but they are able to perform in a variety of styles, ranging from synthpop to electrorock to grunge to...um...Kraftwerk.
- John E. Bredehoft
Blasphemy! No wait...I think you have a point, Alex, in that they pioneered a specific style of music that ended up being influential and pervasive. However, I know more people who've never heard of Kraftwerk than people who have heard of the Beatles. :)
- Helen Sventitsky
As an electronic musician, I love Kraftwerk, but the Beatles, they belong on another planet. From production techniques to song formats, to name it.
- Deepak Singh
The fact that there's people who know of the Beatles but have never heard of Kraftwerk just solidifies my choice in my mind.
- Alex Scoble
Without Kraftwerk no Beck. Without Kraftwerk no Daft Punk. Without Kraftwerk no Yanni ... wait, strike that :P
- Rene Wirtz
@Gunny "Synth-Pop" was somehow good?
- Phil Boiarski
Uh, that would be no. Kraftwerk probably doesn't make top 10 maybe even 20 influential rock bands. But good mention.
- Steve C
Yellow Magic Orchestra,New Order/Joy Division,David Bowie,Devo,Eno etc..Many Legend-Musicians using electronics were influenced absolutely!
- sakotakanonosue
In my world, yes. In the real world, no.
- Aaron deMello
I truly am old and out of touch -- not only had I not heard of Kraftwerk but most of the "influenced" as well are never heard ofs.
- Brian Sullivan
I purchased Autobahn long before I got Sergent Pepper's
- Antoine Bertier
Electronica esoterica for the cognoscenti: La Monte Young > John Cale > The Velvet Underground and Nico > Kraftwerk
- Sean McBride
this thread is an example of why after we launch Flickchart, for movies, we're going to complete the next big project: Tuneschart, for music
- Nathan Chase
Nathan -- what is the core concept of Flickchart?
- Sean McBride
It's a bit like trying to compare Robert Johnson to the Beatles, though. Without the delta blues, there would be no Beatles. Without the Beatles, there would be no Kraftwerk, etc. When you are talking different eras and genres which build on each other, you cannot compare directly.
- Michael W. May
oh MWM - You can! I can't wait to have Led Zeppelin vs. Mozart, Eminem vs. Elvis, Madonna vs. Patsy Cline :)
- Nathan Chase
I disagree, most strenuously, that the Beatles had ANYTHING to do with Kraftwerk. You could argue well that without Robert Moog there would be no Kraftwerk, but the Beatles? A better argument, in my mind is that without Brian Wilson there would be no Kraftwerk, as he did some work with synthesizers before them, but the Beatles? No.
- Alex Scoble
Take the Beatles out of the 60s and you alter everything during and after.
- Michael W. May
As long as it changed things so that disco didn't happen, I'm down with that.
- Alex Scoble
Put it another way...if Kraftwerk had never been, my musical life would totally and utterly suck. If the Beatles had never been, I'd be perfectly fine.
- Alex Scoble
Nathan -- you've gone and done it! -- implemented with Flickchart an idea that has been floating around in my mind for at least five years: offering binary choices between two objects of particular types as a tool to sort out one's tastes and preferences. Nice work. This concept should be quickly expanded to include authors, books, music, news sources, news stories, places, terms, websites, etc. (And make no mistake: someone will no doubt use the same approach for ranking porn.)
- Sean McBride
Hey now, disco had it's purposes. Disco + Kraftwerk gets you Blondie.
- Rob Haas
in 100% agreement with MWM here. you can't say Kraftwerk is the pinnacle of music without acknowledging that they are merely *standing on the shoulders of giants.* possibly *none* of your music would be around today if Scott Joplin had not invented jazz syncopation. just because you don't listen to ragtime or blues doesn't mean your music wasn't built on it. praise the steeple of the church all you like, but don't forget it needed a *foundation* to rest on.
- Karim
Heh, Karim, I agree. There are plenty of people who wish the last 40 years of music had never happened. I didn't say that Kraftwerk was the pinnacle of music, btw, just that they did more to influence the music I listen to than anyone else. In other words, for me, what band is the most influential, is a very personal question. Kraftwerk is one of my main answers. For others it may be the Beatles, or Louis Armstrong, or early rap artists like Curtis Blow, or Grand Master Flash. Raises a good question though.
- Alex Scoble
Alex, you seem to be qualifying your statements a bit to say that "influential" means "influential to you personally." de gustibus non est disputandum. i took the original statement to mean that Kraftwerk was more influential on music in general -- a statement which i assume you meant to be contentious, since you also called them "more important" and "better talented." :-) my main point...
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- Karim
the Beatles contributed to psychedelic rock, which incorporated classical and experimental music, rejected the verse-chorus-verse structure, etc. -- which led to progressive rock, krautrock etc., which led to Kraftwerk. would Kraftwerk have used the Moog if not for other groups like the Beatles who had used it years before? i'm not trying to minimize the contribution of Kraftwerk to modern music, but rather to point out that they were building on what others had done.
- Karim
Everyone builds on what others had done.
- Alex Scoble
The Beatles: "Tomorrow Never Knows" (Revolver, 1966) Early electronica. "Turn off your mind, relax / and float down stream / It is not dying / It is not dying / Lay down all thought / Surrender to the void / It is shining / It is shining / That you may see / The meaning of within / It is being / It is being" http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Sean McBride
I'll grant you Beach Boys, but not Beatles.
- Tudor Bosman
so i am trying to reconcile "Everyone builds on what others had done" with "I disagree, most strenuously, that the Beatles had ANYTHING to do with Kraftwerk." :-D
- Karim
Kraftwerk has explicitly acknowledged a debt to The Beatles in some of their interviews.
- Sean McBride
"Call Them the Beatles Of Electronic Dance Music" (The New York Times, 6/15/1997) "It has been argued in the press that Kraftwerk is the most important music group since the Beatles. Less debatable is the fact that what the Beatles are to rock music, Kraftwerk is to electronic dance music. The band laid down a blueprint for the music's future, developing an automated, impersonal sound...
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- Sean McBride
I disagree with NYT article because I don't think The Beatles were all too important for rock either. My votes are: Elvis Presley, The Velvet Underground, and maybe Dylan.
- andrei_c
Alex - I disagree, most strenuously, with your disagreement that the Beatles had ANYTHING to do with Kraftwerk. The Beatles did make an important contribution inasmuch as they resisted all efforts to convert them into Johnny and the Beatles, rather than the Beatles. A somewhat atypical stance in rock - even the Four Seasons and the Supremes, who started out with equal billing, changed their minds later. Without "the Beatles," you never would have had Kraftwerk - or the Residents, for that matter.
- John E. Bredehoft
I disagree with your disagreement, John. :) I don't see how the Beatles influenced Kraftwerk at all.
- Alex Scoble
However, what's funny is that at least one member of Kraftwerk has said that they were heavily influenced by The Beach Boys. Ahh, irony, how I <3 thee.
- Alex Scoble
I once saw an AWESOME musical ‘family tree’ - showing influences, styles, bands, cultural movements, etc... i'll see if I can dig it up..
- Anthony Citrano
Well, Kraftwerk was good, but not as good as The Beatles.
- Baard @ Pixum
If you're going to dissect The Beatles, though, you have to ask if it's pre-LSD Beatles or post-LSD Beatles? They were a totally different band after they did acid.
- Anthony Citrano
What's also funny is that Kraftwerk have had a much longer career than The Beatles.
- Alex Scoble
I'm going to have to go with pre-LSD Beatles, Anthony. Post LSD Beatles sucked harder than a Hoover vacuum.
- Alex Scoble
I need to go back and listen, then. I don't know a lot about them and was never a fan. But to my mind they were better after the acid, because they were doing a lot more experimentation and moving away from the simply constructed, teeny-bop bullshit.
- Anthony Citrano
"Many of these groups began their musical careers with little or no awareness of (or interest in) rock and roll: exposure to the increasingly radical and innovative music of the Velvet Underground, the Silver Apples, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles, for example, led members of groups like Can or Kraftwerk to embrace popular music for the first time." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Karim
+1 Bredehoft. Mmm. Phrased differently: what you hear today, influenced by Kraftwerk. HOW you hear, built by the Beatles and to a slightly lesser extent, The Beach Boys.
- Cole Jolley
As for invention of electronic music or "synthpop", Walter (Wendy) Carlos' release of Switched On Bach in 1968 predates Kraftwerk by 2 years and is considered the more seminal influence. Prior to that, the advent of electronic music owes more to Stockhausen and John Cage.
- Cole Jolley
To people who say I should follow fewer people: if I can have a conversation with one person in a stadium filled with tens of thousands, I should be able to do the same thing on a webservice where I follow only 1300. Not to mention using filters implies that I know today the interesting and compelling content that others will post tomorrow. Again, just how I use the service. Others may use it differently.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We should be ab le to filter on the fly... that would help.
- Wolfman-K
Following fewer people reduces the usefulness of the service. Filters might be a good way of handling things, but how do I know they aren't filtering out things that I'd actually want to see?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
This is one of the things that's so appealing about the new FF: with filters, I can see in real-time the stuff I *want* to know about as soon as it happens, and peruse the rest as I feel like it.
- Ryan Waldron
Real life.. I see that phrase often in games like WoW and RoM. I prefer the virtual version :)
- Michele
I'm not sure I appreciate the added value of the beta design, particularly in light of the additional management and time it's going to take me to get it right. The current design has flaws (such as content updating out from underneath you when visiting a link) that are further amplified in the new design. There must be a way to address the update and management issues.
- Loren Heiny
The new friendfeed is like talking on a party - to all people at the same time. I feel like a social juggler.
- Dan van Moll
Loren: The link issue could be solved by Paul & co. stealing the Diggbar from under Kevin Rose's nose.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Perhaps they should add settings like Twitterfall has...
- Cris McRae
I am still learning how to use it myself, but I training myself
- Ike
I've said it elsewhere, the more people you follow, the more of a need there is for filtering. It's not a preference, it's essential. It's true in Twitter, it's true in Friendfeed, it's true in email, it's true in Facebook. If you refuse to use the tools they have given you to manage the noise, then you have to deal with the it's design. That's your choice.
- Bwana ☠
I'm pretty sure I don't have 300—let alone 3—people in real life constantly telling me every single thing they do and create in real time. ;) They send me an e-mail, a tweet, or I catch up on their activity in my Flickr contacts list on my own time. This is a very different and interesting shift for social media.
- David Chartier
Mine's not moving fast at all. I suppose I wasn't using it to it's full capacity before... :-\
- David Wynn
Bwana: Filtering isn't the panacea you're making it out to be. There's a reason I follow the people and topics I do, and if I filter them out just to save some peace of mind, I might as well just unfollow them entirely.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Looking for a good filter tutorial link. Anyone?
- Trevor Childs
Subscribe to Bwana he has some good filter examples.
- Jared B. Luther
Yet another person who tells me that, in order to use FF, I need to change my behavior.
- Glen Mistletoe
No way I'm following fewer people. The more I follow, the more fun I have here. So far, not too fast for me. We'll see tonight when it hits prime time.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Well, I still have lists and I can pause the updates, so I can use it however I like. It's definitely fun! I'll be using Friendfeed more, I'd wager, with the new interface. I actually feel less inundated, since I have nifty filtering. I'll be able to follow a lot more people!
- jojo, adventurer
Jason Goldberg: "The system needs to be smart enough to know." Forget lists and filters. Smart automated recommender systems are the future of social media. Why isn't Friendfeed leading the way?
- Sean McBride
Since when is it the user's fault when the user interface doesn't work as expected?
- Albert Willis
To people who say you should filter more for getting the real life: they should get out of their geek-holes and understand what it is to make choices for real life persons. :p
- Ton Zijp
I think the beta is awesome. Looks great on my iPhone in landscape mode.
- Steve Sill
i don't agree with the premise that because real time = real life folks should be able to keep up with their interests by scaling down their activity or number of people they happen to follow on a site like this. that's a nice simple thing to write, but it's certainly not practical if you're looking to interact with people on friendfeed. it's sites like these that afford all kinds of info to be exchanged among all kinds of people -- much more than in "real life." if the point of exchanging information lies
- Cee Bee
How about having less followers? I don't understand this kind of maths really. If everyone starts following less people just to use a "tool", your own voice won't be noticed. I'll follow everyone I think he/she could bring more knowledge/fun to me and it'll be up to the tool to satisfy my needs, not the opposite
- directeur
with a few people what's the point of being on a site like ff?
- Cee Bee
Indeed, _very_ aggressive "hide" and "unsubscribe" are at least turning FF's "river of shit" UI a bit more palatable.
- Dossy Shiobara
Don't make ME fix your problems. If it's too fast, it's too fast, and FF will have to live with the consequences.
- Glen Mistletoe
In real-life, I don't have 1000 friends. And Leo, we're not friends in RL, right?
- AJ Batac
I asked yesterday how anyone actually kept up with hundreds of people on twitter. Never got a response, so I figure people actually don't.
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
People mostly use Twitter as a bullhorn; I doubt that many feeds are being read very carefully.
- Sean McBride
or just hit pause. it's not that big of a deal. you just hit refresh like you always have.
- Nathan Chase
Agree with Tina. Filtering for topics implies a preset agenda of interests which makes it much less interesting. And if real life was so great more people would live there :-)
- Todd Hoff
I didn't even know there are filters. They could make it easier to notice and use like put a filter button there on the page. Or explain that you can do that and how to do it.
- Nathan Mylott
It's not a matter of telling you HOW to use something, it's a matter of telling what's available to help you DEAL with data overload. Lists and Filters are there to help consume the data in a manner which is pleasurable. It's not the only way to use FF, but it's something to ADD to your existing way of using the tool to make it better. I realize not everyone uses the tool like I do, but the features I talk about are there to HELP you manage the madness.
- Bwana ☠
For example, not everyone uses labels in Gmail to manage their emails. But I've recommended some people use labels to organize the information and it has helped them. For others, it hasn't. The point remains, that labels are there to help with that and they are worth a try to see if it works. It's part of the toolset. Same is true with Lists and Filters on FF. They are there to help you. Give them a try. If they don't work, fine. Plenty of people have found they do work and that's why we say use it
- Bwana ☠
Me, I have an "Everything" list so I can see all my followers... but sometimes, I need a break and I move to my other lists or fiilters to munch on those. I spend the most time in the Everything list though. My home feed consists of individuals who I have liked or commented on more than 50 or 60 times..
- Bwana ☠
I'm not sure following fewer is the best idea. The pause button puts the whole site back into static mode, i.e. what the old FF is. So just hit that. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
It's already gotten better, since yesterdays hype slowly went down. I'm quite happy with the (number of) followers now... It's manageable.
- Holger Eilhard
Personally I can not see what all the hoopla is about. May be due to not following a hunndred people
- Greg
I just started using it, and I love it so far.. I can now see what Leo and Steve were so excited about.
- BASEnet
Liberal use of the "Hide" link works wonders to keep things clean. Also, adding ?num=100 to the end of the beta URL keeps things on the first page (thx Stupid Blogger/FFer (aka Tina)!)
- Aaron Fowler
...And... Leo haven't commented here after 23 hours. Busy man. Busy man.
- AJ Batac
I like how powerful the filtering is.
- David Delony
just wish there was some type of sms capacity, like twitter
- Steve Austin
Well Said Leo: "Real-Time = Real-Life" and I can't wait for Facebook and Twitter to get real!
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Leo: real life is throwing up on your shoes, too. don't want that.
- MikeAmundsen
I literally shouted 'HOLY FUCK' when I first did it... Rachael came over, gave me that 'really?' look and sat back down on the couch... (That happens a lot :P )
- Johnny Worthington
No one can be told what the friendfeed is...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
When Josh Haley wakes up, he is gonna loose his shit!!!
- Johnny Worthington
ha, I knew I would be the last to know...
- esther ♥ ♫
Scared me a bit there. I was like, my screen! it's melting! Then when I saw the mouseover text, I knew what they were talking about. Well played. bf & I were just marveling not long ago that the movie was almost 10 years old. talk about starting to feel aged...
- Kamilah Gill
Let me make this very clear. I want the pill that lets me stay here and taste yummy food. I don't want to know the truth. I, for one, welcome our robotic overlords.
- Cyrus Lendvay
I noticed that this morning - along with all the "I bet a billion people will post about this" whiny posts LOL
- Mona Nomura
So when is everyone going to take he red pill? What is one "truth" that you believe is hidden in the matrix, but people would think you are nuts if you said it out loud? Post your answer here http://qrv.qlnk.net/
- Christian Burns
I just saw it as I was clicking the logo, now it's gone. I must've just caught it.
- Andrew Trinh
Just realized, FriendFeed is run by the Robot Army from the Area 01. Humans can't pull of this so easily.
- Swaroop
Set expectations accordingly or you'll be disappointed. Why do I bother, people never listen and are always disappointed
- Bwana ☠
Who CARES about copy and paste. BACKGROUND, PLEASE.
- Mona Nomura
and maybe folders?? would be nice as well..
- Jaap Willem
We need to move away from MMS - why save media locally, when we can e-mail? Cloud? MMS is backwards thinking, imho.
- Mona Nomura
Sure, ignore a technology "everyone" (at least here) knows and uses, for the promise of some other non-obvious, probably not well known (and as a result, harder to use), not universally supported tech. That's good business practice. =p
- Daniel Bruce
MMS don't care. Copy/Paste don't care. iDisk app, now, that'd be nice.
- Paul Grav
I'm backing Mona up with 1 MILLION JIGAWATTS! We need to ditch MMS and move forward.
- vijay
I want a stable browser. I fear I'm setting my expectation too high.
- Bwana ☠
MMS is also backwards compatible with many, many millions of phones which don't support email, either at all or well. Not supporting it is just embarrasing.
- Ian Betteridge
Sorry Jalada, source was a good one: Apple :)
- MG Siegler
+1 Ian, my point exactly. None of the non-smart phones have good, or any, support for email, much less the cloud or the internets. If I wanted to send a pic to any of my friends or family, I can't zap it into the cloud and magically expect them to be able to access it (they can't, none of their phones have e-mail or internet support worth a damn). With MMS, however, I can send it to them, pretty much without exception. It's a complete show-stopper.
- Daniel Bruce
mms is for grandmas. I don't know anyone that uses it.
- Zio Bonino
How about Apple Store 3.0 with reduced restrictions and deprecation of capricious app banning? :)
- Ray Cromwell
+1 Mona; here's hoping for Background Apps, which will allow some innovation by app developers to improve upon what MMS and SMS offers. Background Apps also need improved battery life == new hardware hopefully.
- Bob Hitching
There are many free services that enable picture emailing, without logging into the services. Facebook and Flickr are the two most common. With Docs to Go coming for all mobile platforms, why do we need MMS? (to add, I've personally never MMSd documents but someone in another thread said it was common)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Because there's like 100 million phones that can receive MMS, and 90 million of them have really sucky web browsers, application environments, and slow network speeds.
- Ray Cromwell
But what would you be using MMS for? If multi media is your number one need, get a multi media phone. And most multi media phones have native SNS apps.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
And another MMS question: wouldn't you want to view and save media via desktop w/out flashcard adapters and cables? The future is simplicity. Minimal chords, attachments, basically accessories that get tangled up and hog up USB or FireWire holes.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
The simplicity for me is taking a picture and sending it asynchronously to a phone number without having to care what kind of phone it is. There are far too many legacy phones to ignore MMS. Your assumption is that everyone upgrades to the lastest phone, I know quite a few people with 3+ year old phones. And I bought my Nanny a "free" Nokia media phone, an old Series40, which can't run squat.
- Ray Cromwell
So let me get this straight: because MMS has been the standard to share media since 2003, naturally, more phones support MMS. Because more phones support it, and most people still have older phones, there is still a need. Ok, that is fair. So if you have a need to instantly send your Nanny pictures then why choose an iPhone? And I still stand by my statement that MMS is backwards thinking. Apple and AT&T made a bold and perhaps game changing move omitting MMS. I agree with their strategy 220%.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
I heard Nova excludes MMS, too. All hear say until Pre and 3.0 is rolled out. Bottomlime: I'm all for fewer accessories and peripherals, moving on to other options. I wonder if there's a way to exclude MMS from my plan to get the people I correspond with in the habit of checking where I aggregate my media in lieu of hardware dependence.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
There's something to be said for interoperability and standards. And the use case is really other people sending me MMS . The iPhone doesn't support vCard or iCalendar either, again, eschewing standards that have been in place for a decade. I honestly don't see forcing someone to launch a browser and synchronously load photos as an improvement over an asynchronous push technology that works without a gazillion web based UIs, chewing up extra battery life and memory.
- Ray Cromwell
??? I email my photos or upload to various sites. People who do heavy business activities on their mobiles all have phones that support the various oulets I aggregate my media. All others, access them via desktop/laptop. As for Vcard and calendar, that is a whole different topic, but I have found my work arounds. The resources are there. It's just new and different.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Either which way, my bottomline is: the future is minimalistic simplicity, and omitting hardware dependency. Once you lose your phone, the MMS media is lost with it. As is data you didn't get a chance to sync. How are solutions to that NOT forward thinking?
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
If MMS is to be replaced with cloud storage, then define an OMA/IETF/3GPP REST API for this that is standardized and can be adopted by hardware, applications, and sites. Simply replacing it with a website just fragments everything and makes mobile implementations less efficient. MMS is about instant-photo sharing, not snapping photos and asking people to look at them later when they get to a desktop
- Ray Cromwell
If I extend your argument, we should replace SMS with gazillions of Twitter clones. How does 20 proprietary interfaces improve user experience over a single one? The vast majority of people using these devices for media sharing aren't as tech-savvy as you think. Create a standard, then get MobileMe, Flickr, Picasa, FaceBook, MySpace, et al, to adopt it.
- Ray Cromwell
LOL Ray I think we see different big pictures. I stated my point and you stated yours, clearly we are not going to see eye to eye. It would be interesting to re-visit this thread two to three years down the road.
- Mona Nomura
Uh-oh. This would be a good time to launch Discovery. Get 'em outta there.
- Roberto Bonini
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastr... "Nancy Atkinson is on top of the story that a small piece of orbital debris might hit the space station at 11:39 Central (US) time, less than 40 minutes from the time I write this. Astronauts on board are preparing for this potential impact. Follow her Twitter feed for more info. You can also watch NASA TV for info."
- RAPatton
The great thing about orbiting the earth is that you come back to the same place again and again; I wonder when the next time a collision is possible with this particular debris field
- RAPatton
CNN just did an alert, 30 minutes after Twitter.
- Andrew Leyden
@Andrew - noticed that too. It was pretty much over by the time CNN go on top of things.
- JA Castillo
It's incredible how calm they all were, specially the pilot.
- Bernardo
awesome! sort of like the old CBS "You Are There" show but for the YouTube generation. ;-) nitpicks: why did they bother to animate a passenger waving his arms, but couldn't find a texture to fill in the sky? and i would hope the guy came in with flaps extended. also, i'm pretty sure the one of the geese did not say "Cut the chatter, Red Two. Accelerate to attack speed."
- Karim
Indeed. I have an old Fuji Camera that is 3.2MP and my 8-year old daughter gets great results from it. It's a queston of how you handle a camera, how you see things, and how you interpret light & shape.
- David Petherick
from twhirl
Along the lines of David's daughter, I briefly owned a 10.1 MP camera that rarely produced photos as good as my iPhone. MPs are so overrated.
- fn (fairnymph)
These iPhone photos looks photoshopped.
- Carolyn Chan
I've gotten a couple of good shots from my iPhone, but it's mostly due to luck. Also, you need a LOT of light, otherwise it's super blurry - well for me at least. Here are some iPhone pics of mine I like. http://flickr.com/photos... and http://flickr.com/photos...
- Jason
They're referring to the last row of that screenshot. The iPhone 2,1 includes "a speaker, volume controls, microphone support and a much faster processor than the 1st generation model". The iPhone 3G is referred to as "iPhone "1,2" in the config file.
- Bill Sodeman
Jet Engine Being Hit by 5lb Bird (video)
Technical name: Wide Body, Blade-Out Jet Engine Test
(off topic)
mdfsmash:
robot-heart:Aircrew Buzz: When a large bird (5 lb. chicken) hits a jet engine…
Holy cow. That is wild.
My jaw just dropped. That’s crazy! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
We can't put solid screens over the intakes?
- Glenn Batuyong
about solid screens: Might restict the airflow is something got stuck on it? I dunno - I am guessing.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
It's a balancing act. You have to 1) design the screen to it can stop a 5lb+ object at 200mph+ 2) it can't let through any bird parts large enough to damage the engine, 3) it can't constrict flow or mess with the engine's pressure ratio, 4) it can't allow ice to accumulate, 5) it has to be relatively lightweight. BTW, if you consider how rarely this results in anything more than equipment damage, how much are you willing to invest in a solution?
- Ken Sheppardson
...also, I'm pretty sure they design these engines to just contain the explosion/damage, such that all that happens is the engine goes out. Much of the cowling is designed to contain the fan blades and all the other parts the engine's going to throw off when it fails like this, so you're not going to get turbine blades slicing through the exit row or anything.
- Ken Sheppardson
Also... remember... every single passenger jet is multi-engine and capable of flying on less than full complement of engines. Hitting enough birds in the right pattern to take out both engines is a 1 in a billion shot. If that freaks you out I really don't recommend you cross streets on foot.
- Brian Roy
Yeah, you ever see those videos of a car hitting a wall at 35mph? That's why I don't drive, I tell ya.
- Ken Sheppardson