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i agree with this one. i would love some kind of grouping feature. i regularly miss updates from family and close friends because they get lost in the stream of all the others i follow - Brad Warren
You can use a room to track those that you consider more important. - possible248
possible248 - I don't understand how to do that - I create a room, then do I invite leo, or how do I add his feed directly into that room. - Sean
You add the feeds belonging to those you want to track. It isn't perfect, but it's a pretty good solution for now. - possible248
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Well written. In my opinion standards are the problem here. Will there be any company break out and really innovate on e-mail? The risk is, that some new features may not work in every context. This would make things more complicated for "normal" users... - Matthias Schwenk
Google is definitely making the moves. They have taken a lot of steps already, integrated Google talk for example, presence, reduced spam (I never get spam in my inbox). But there is so much more to do as I pointed out ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Matthias, I just realised I didn't react to your point of things becoming more complicated. You are right about that. For that reason I never got around using those add ons that make Outlook "social", xobni for example. Outlook itself isn't "simple". Gmail is a very nice platform though. I like it best, even though they still would have along way to got to implement my wish list ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
What I wish is that someone would come up with a way of telling me when I haven't heard from someone in a long time, or the ability to tag an email to a project (or a label) and tell me how many messages I've gotten on that tag, and what the last one was... So that I could better use gmail for contact management and project management. I have a number of smaller projects that tend to fall through the cracks and while I have tried to come up with a number of ways to handle that, it'd be nice to be built in. - Justin Long
Justin nice list of features. If a few creative people would sit down for it, there are so many possible improvements thinkable. Google seems to be at it, but I seem to hear often the team working on it isn't very big (I don't know). But there is a lot to win still. - Alexander van Elsas
Pity that someone can't come up with a Greasemonkey script that could do it... I don't know anything about programming something like that. It ought to be possible because you can access Gmail through IMAP... wonder if an open source webmail project could be created to "extend" gmail? - Justin Long
Some users have come up with their own strategies of handling email which are pretty good. I've covered this in my Blog post "How to handle Email overload" sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/03/30/how-to-handle-email-overload/ - Sachendra
To me its not so much a matter of managing email - for which there are any number of good suggestions, I use Zero Inbox - but rather better tools for understanding the social connections and the convergence between projects and specific email addressses; the ability to treat email as data for analysis; the ability to better thread conversations; the ability to better expose email threads to more people while keeping some emails private etc. and more - Justin Long
Exactly Justin. I agree. - Alexander van Elsas
The problem is that Outlook has too many features and is too big, but Gmail is designed to only have the features that most people use, right? I seem to recall reading that Gmail was mainly features used by, like, the regular users of email (not so much powerusers). I do wish that Gmail was "extendable" - like Firefox's plugins! That would be great - because then you could plugin the functionality that you need while resisting feature creep. - Justin Long
If Gmail was extendable like Firefox that would be great. - Matthias Schwenk
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Seriously, I don't get sourdough. - Tessa MacDuff
Me either. I hate it! - Piaw Na
Yuck. Never even heard of sourdough before I came to the US. - Stefan Zier
"It makes lousy sandwiches, lousy breakfast, it clashes with cheese." - j1m
Sourdough baguettes are pretty good to eat while drinking lager. - Alex Mendes da Costa
I like sourdough. Good toast, good for cheese. Have to get the right kind so it depends on where you're shopping I guess. Perhaps you're in SF proper where folks pimp the nasty sourdough. East Bay it can be difficult to find sourdough. - AJ Kohn
I love it. With butter. Mm.. - Lilly Irani
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Must be why I seem to get more attention in my old age than I did in my youth - RAPatton
Glad I didn't shave this morning... - Nathan Chase via fftogo
I don't really believe this, but that's probably because I couldn't grow a beard if I was given six months and one of those hair tonics from the Looney Tunes cartoons. If I don't shave, I just look skeevy, like I'm trying to sell someone a used car or something that fell off the back of a truck. - James Ferguson
Not all of us don't. Either grow it out or shave it off, stubble hurts! - Summer
Summer, that is I good point. I think it looks better, but it is like sand paper. - RAPatton
I like stubble, and don't mind that it "hurts." - Rick Powell
stubble isn't very suitable for work - Rubin
When I was a kid, my dad would threaten to rub his stubble on us if we were acting up. I do the same to my kids now. Good times. - Harvey Simmons
I think its Lazy masquerading as Masculine. - Parth Awasthi via twhirl
/off to return my new straight edge. - Russellreno
I don't agree on their ideas, but, I love articles like these. - Yolanda
@Rick Powel - unless you've found a way to kiss your own face, you don't know how uncomfortable it is! - Diane Ensey
Uh-huh, tell that to my wife... She hates stubble. Honestly, have those women who say they like unshaven men actually tried to kiss them passionately? Do they even know what it feels like? My wife tells me it feels like kissing sandpaper, and that her face gets cut up every time. That article's a bunch of baloney written for doe-eyed teeny boppers. - Raoul Pop
@Raoul Pop - ditto! My wife hates any scruff and is not tolerant of "face time" when I have not shaved. - JA Castillo
They didn't test stylized facial hair, only clean, stubble, and beard. I wish the article had the actual numerical results, I'm sure there were several outliers. Some women hate facial hair, but now at least we know what they're looking for in a man ;p - xero
Finally, being too lazy to shave has its advantages! - Mark Wilson
Summer and RAPatton have a point. Maybe not so much that the scruff hurts, more the fact that a good makeout session may result in bad molting a few days later... - Casey
but for the first day and a half, depending on hair growth rate, the stubble does *not* hurt, at all. bliss... - edythe
There are ways to keep the stubble from hurting. Conditioner is one. :-x - xero
So the stubbler has to time his dates with stubblees, - Russellreno
It seems that my "Stubl" makeup line for men came before it's time. - Dan Kaplan
russell, in a nutshell! - edythe
Must admit there is something about a light stubble (guess that makes me a doe-eyed teeny bopper) but there are limits. Pash-rash is not a look (or ouch) that women want to cultivate. Think Bacall sums it up best with Bogey in 'To Have and Have Not' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... (at 1.46) - Patricia Hanrahan
*cheer* Nice, Patricia - Michael W. May via twhirl
Not for me... I guess it might look kind of cute on some guys, but in reality, kissing a face with stubble is not pleasant. :P - Cheryl Jones
when one is very, very smitten, one will endure even the microplaner stage of stubble to kiss the sheer adorableness of the one who sports it. - edythe
Good news for Pete. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
edythe, I agree :) Stubble can be very attractive in terms of looking at photographs and in good-morning-I've-just-woken-up-stretch-yawn situation but in terms of kissing, erm, not preferred. - Patricia Hanrahan
And when one is very, very smitten one will even endure to shave a beloved beard or even stache (even if one had publicly swore an oath to never do so again). *shrug* It is only hair. - Michael W. May via twhirl
Michael, amen to that. I liked my mustache. And I liked my "petit goatee" as well (weird name, but that's what it's called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...). And I had a beard as well for a while. But my wife couldn't stand them any more, so they had to go. The mustache was the hardest one to let go of, but I did it. - Raoul Pop
Dan Kaplan: "Stubl" :D +1 - edythe
@Diane Um, I'm queer and 46. Wanna bet I've kissed more stubbly faces than you have? ;-) - Rick Powell
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I love the like to comment ratio on this. It is a lady spinning. Nuff said. - Sacca
a spinner ;-p - Noah David Simon
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June 17 at 3:34 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
"This year, however, proponents of same-sex marriage have found encouragement in both the California Supreme Court decision and in a subsequent order by Gov. David A. Paterson of New York, instructing agencies in his state to recognize same-sex marriages performed legally elsewhere. The California court has also rebuffed several challenges to its May 15 decision, made by two conservative legal groups and by Republican attorneys general who fear that the California marriages will lead to legal challenges brought in their own states." - Bret Taylor
The current UK administration defused the issue of same sex unions by the introduction of Civil Partnerships in 2005 linked to an across the board change of relevant laws to provide parity with married couples - with the exception of those with religiious objections (who should really know better) this has gone smoothly and been introduced across the UK. Its not called a marriage but has all the advantages (and responsibilities!) of the mixed sex varaint. - Jican
The opposition should be pleased. Now that they're married, they'll be having less sex. - Phil Wolff via Alert Thingy
our friends Bob and Michael get married in SF on August 20th. - Todd Mundt
Is that Bruce Willis in the second picture? j/k - Nesta Campbell
@Phil: Ha! Comment of the day :) - Bret Taylor
I love my native state! - Zach Landes
Phil: Brilliant Comment! - Parth Awasthi via twhirl
It makes me very happy to see gay folks entering the light in California. I'm also very amused at how frustrating it must be to the Right. Well, I guess in a few years one of us will be proven right. Either a small percentage of the population of California will be happily married and gay or the country will lay in smouldering ruins and people will be having sex with box turtles. - Tad Donaghe
Tad: I feel a box turtle urge coming on! Hah. - Robert Scoble
@Tad - I had box turtles as pets when I was kid. Never considered that activity with them though... - Hutch Carpenter
"It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right. Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife." - Rick Santorum (Idiot) ex-Senator from Virginia - Tad Donaghe
Dude in the pic with "Bruce Willis" is freakin HYOOOGE! I wonder how many opponents of gay marriage have been pwned by his hand...LOL - Rahsheen Porter
Really? BTW...Santorum => Pennsylvania - Hutch Carpenter
Whoa, don't push Santorum on us Virginians! hehe - Jody Carbone
Oh crap - sorry to pollute Virginia with Santorum! Oops. I wouldn't wish that on anyone... - Tad Donaghe
I hope it "sticks". My boyfriend and I are waiting until after November. To have the rug pulled from under us after enjoying a few months of wedded bliss would be too much for the heart to bear. - Jason Menayan
Congrats to all the new couples, with wishes for many happy years. - Chris Baskind
bravo, - pestwave
All You Need Is Love! - Chris Nixon
In my home town in Austria, we had a case of a black man and a white woman wanting to marry, they ended up being refused by the marriage registrar. Of course, we also haven't got gay marriage legalized here. The US have problems, but in some cases, law is way more progressive than in Europe. - sebmos
Yay! - Yuvi
@Phil: LOL! This has certainly been a momentous (and good) development. But it would be nice to see these kinds of decisions made through the legislative process. The fact that this decided in the courts will make the outcome more contentious than it would have been had the population been forced to have a legitimate conversation about the issue. The more bigoted corners of our society now have a victim card to play - and play it they shall... - Forrest Cox
@Forrest: The genius of our system of government lies in its checks and balances. In particular, an unfettered democracy would be subject to the problem of the "tyranny of the majority". Fortunately this is offset by our Constitution and our courts, whose job is to ensure that individual rights are not trampled on, no matter how unpopular that individual may be, for whatever reason. Any bigots playing the victim card are ignorant of basic civics. - Ruchira S. Datta
@Ruchira I agree. The Cali court is playing exactly its Constitutional role, and it's essentially a conservative and Federalist approach to reconciling changing societal mores and the demands of a minority. As I've commented elsewhere, we are winning this argument, and we're doing it state by state, rather than through a Federal fiat, which simply is not feasible at this time. All good things... - Rick Powell
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Muppet clip with Sandra Bullock. How can you not love Kermie? - Patricia Hanrahan
Oh, that is awesome! Love Kermit, love the song. Thanks for sharing :-) - Adam Lasnik
Gotta love Mr Frog. Also liking that Sandra Bullock is chanelling her innner librarian here :D - Patricia Hanrahan
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However, now it appears that the "new" more "friendly" EMI isn't just suing MP3Tunes. According to Boing Boing and Michael Robertson, it's trying to extend the lawsuit to go after Robertson personally, saying that he should be personally liable. As you probably know, one of the purposes of a corporate structure is to limit the liability of the executives of a company. To go after Robertson personally makes very little sense unless the idea is to intimidate. Many executives will quickly settle in such circumstances so as to not open themselves up to such a huge liability. On top of that, the chilling effects are tremendous. Others won't even think of starting innovative services, for fear of being personally liable in a lawsuit. Unless EMI pulls back its lawyers, I think we can safely conclude that the "new" EMI hasn't really changed much from the old EMI. - Erica Baker
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Gee, I was just thinking the same thing :P - Kip
Yeah, I want to block you sooo bad - Kris Haamer
You can hide and block people from ever showing up in your friendfeed stream, but I'm not sure that will get rid of them from showing up in your recommended list. - Robert Seidman
I've been wishing for the same thing.... I've had the same faces there since I joined. They should do it like FB, where you can 'close' those recommendations and others take their place.Finding new people would be sooo much easier - Rai
Agreed and a rare posted message from you Michael welcome aboard!! :-D - Joe Dawson
I think it's important not to confuse this "block" request with the "block people who are trolling jerks" feature that was recently unveiled, which is what I initially thought you were requesting (due to the first phrase). But yeah, totally agree with you re: the need for a "Don't recommend this person anymore" option. - Adam Lasnik
It looks more like they need a recommender which throws away the 'short head'. If you ignore the the 10% of recommended users you'd have a more interesting and diverse set of recommendations. - Adewale Oshineye
Blocking people DOES remove them from your "recommended" page. I wish I could really reconfigure what gets displayed on the recommended page, though. I wish I could see "people who are similar to Louis Gray," for instance. - Robert Scoble
ive already suggested to the ff team that the list on the right be changed - im sick of seeing scoble, calacanis, arrington, rose and laporte on every page - they said they will look into it - i'd prefer to see a random list - good for discovery. - Allen Stern
Robert: I'll be releasing a Friendfeed app that will please many people I bet and which answers somehow some of these needs. Yet IMHO blocking people just because "you don't know who they are" removes the magic from FriendFeed. And I think that's what Michael is refereing to. - directeur
Allen: I agree with you. I'd rather see the last people that person has "Liked" or "Commented on." Then you'd really get some great discovery. - Robert Scoble
directeur: I agree. "Block" is too crude an instrument just to get some more interesting people into the recommended page. - Robert Scoble
and what about profiles? how do you know all those people that subscribes to you anyway? people subscribe to me and I have no shit about who they are, but they may be someone important enough to subscribe back. why on each person here I need to do a research project? (checking their blogs feed etc) - Orli Yakuel
I was actually kind of hoping for a "Subscribe to all" button - Marco
I love adewale's suggestion! I've already seen the fat head - looking for the beginning of the long tail. :) - felix
On Facebbok and other social networks i see the profile page before "subscribing", in here i can just check the shared items, but that it is not very helpfull. - Mário Pires
i don't ever go to recommended - i don't mind seeing folks pop-up that are foaf, especially those that i don't necessarily want to subscribe to fulltime but don't mind seeing their posts from time to time - i think ff is for those that enjoy jumping into conversations in a serendipitous way & enjoying the iterative way that new features blossom - its definitely not for the tight of sphincter crowd - mike "glemak" dunn
I think there is already a "block" feature on FF...was not it being discussed by someone few days back??? - Arjun
I agree with mike glemak. I use FF to join in conversations, which hopefully means adding value to the discussion. Outside of that, I find it relatively easy to bypass the things I'm necessarily interested in, but I generally enjoy postings from people I don't subscribe to. - Kate Brodock via twhirl
Arjun: y es, there is a block feature, but really what this conversation is about is having control over the "recommended" page. The block feature in FriendFeed is too blunt an instrument to use just to get someone off of the recommended page here in FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
agree with Robert, block is not the answer. Recommendations should just be smarter. Most connections by degree of separation with a dash of magic FF "authority" ranking, but just a dash, would do the trick just fine. Then page the page and/or have it pull random folks from the top 500 every time and it's fixed. - Thomas Hawk
I would be satisfied if the Recommendations simply showed a little more variety. It seems weighted to a relatively small population of candidates. - Kevin Johnson
that must be because i can't see you on the list ? - Ben Borges
Robert: oh ok....sry my mistake...had just saw the initial comments quickly as not time....now when i went thru te thread...i got the complete picture of the conversation... - Arjun
I totally agree. Netflix has a "not interested" button for recomendations, click it, and they won't recommend it again. - Dave Winer
I think I agree with Robert that 'block' will be too rude, Dave nailed it down 'not intrested' will be more socially appropriate given that this is 'FriendFeed' after all. - Vic Podcaster
It was all so much easier before we could see the social connections. Then I didn't know who told whom about what and I didn't care. Now that we can see the links and the content I feel like I'm going to have to manage everything. Great. More busywork. - Bill Anderson via twhirl
I imagine preemptively blocking people would prevent them from subscribing to you as well, which doesn't seem like desirable behaviour in this case. - Tanath
agreed ! - aruban via twhirl
Proposal: Can we have different algorithms available for our choice from a drop-down menu? e.g. (1) popular with others (2) popular with friends (3) relevant/similar to me via post content/type (4) relevant/similar to me via comment/like (3) random (4) completely opposite of me (5) new people unusually active or liked or commented (6) by country/language (7) by similar room interests (8) etc... - Mitchell Tsai
the recommended list is the gutter of friendfeed no doubt. but blocking is a bad thing. I don't like the way ff recommends people at all. - Noah David Simon
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"Are you SURE, I mean, totally positively sure that you wish to abandon your choice of not using a checking account instead of a credit card which costs us more money so we're creating a hostile user experience EACH AND EVERY TIME YOU BUY SOMETHING?" I hate hate hate PayPal. - Adam Lasnik
You view it as an obstacle. I view it as an opportunity to buy less. To have less clutter in my life, to be less materialistic, to simplify. Amazon Prime on the other hand has undone all the simplicity that PayPal brought me… - Amit Patel
100% with Amit here. My purchases with Amazon have easily quintupled since I joined Prime. But thankfully, not generally of the "clutter" sort. Mostly things I'd buy anyway (toiletries, replacement light bulbs, cliff energy bars, etc.)... only this way I don't have to drive to Target or Costco :-) - Adam Lasnik
Tipjoy is going to solve this. The one-click tip will be a one-click purchase soon - Ivan Kirigin
I've been fairly happy with Google Checkout as a buyer (a bit less so as a seller); purchases take blessedly few clicks. TipJoy seems like a neat service (with communicative founders), but they'd have some major scaling / rebranding to do. Disclaimer: I work for Google, but not on Checkout. - Adam Lasnik
a lot of bad ui for password recovery as well, I still support businesses that choose paypal, but it's such a thorny experience! - Karl
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subject to software solutions down the line (can't edit it). - Sean McBride
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A stop-gap measure may be to run your blog feed through Yahoo! Pipes - d@vid seaward
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